🎨 2025 Sea-Doo Spark: DISAPPOINTMENT😣Odd New Sand Colour & No Speed Upgrade?!

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  • @MKDorianGray
    @MKDorianGray 22 дні тому +27

    Seadoo has managed to disappoint more than I expected to be disappointed. And I expected alot of disappointment.

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому +1

      I know dude, I'm super gutted, Seadoo literally have the keys to the perfect formula and they give us sand, just don't get it... cross everything now for a late 2024 launch like they did with the 1995.5 XP. Thanks for watching dude ✌✌

    • @jbcolson1027
      @jbcolson1027 21 день тому

      But are they also impressing you? Why talk about the Spark Trixx if its such a disappointment? I get the feeling these are just preferences.

  • @MichaelOfTroyWasHere
    @MichaelOfTroyWasHere 22 дні тому +15

    Okay… SeaDoo is asleep at the helm!!!
    2025 is the 30th Anniversary of the XP 800 and we got… 🥁 🥁 🍾 Sand! 🎉

    • @jamesgarvey8402
      @jamesgarvey8402 22 дні тому

      This is exactly what I said! Probably the most important model SeaDoo has ever made, and they don’t even mention it. They are run by a bunch of morons.

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому +1

      Like you, I really want them to drop the faster Spark on a meaningful anniversary. Crossing everything now for a late 2024 launch like they did with the 1995.5 XP. Thanks for watching, dude! 💪💪

  • @MrMichaelmr2
    @MrMichaelmr2 22 дні тому +11

    Are sea doo not listening to there spark customers, love my 2019 trixx , the bright vibrant colours and the fun it brings . They definitely should have made upgrades to the engine ( more power ) and a new lsd screen , and more vibrant colours . Yamaha have definitely caught up

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому +3

      I agree, man. The 2019-2020 is strong... tbf, the 2024 red and white is strong too, but I’m just not a huge fan of the soft edges. I would deal with the softness if they made a faster, bolder colorway, but until then, I’m sticking with my Lava Red Spark and my 2-strokes. The JetBlaster looks cool, but just remember, it’s 100 pounds heavier and still only 50-53 mph... Hang in there, man. Thanks for watching! ✌✌💪💪

    • @MrMichaelmr2
      @MrMichaelmr2 22 дні тому +1

      @@classicjetskis love the channel , love your reviews on all the old stuff and your honest review on the spark , as a fellow spark trixx owner I agree these machines are designed for fun fun fun , the light weight chuck ability ,to be honest they remind me on an old 125 motorcross bike for the water but obviously without the old two stroke zing and smell 😂😂

  • @FatalXS
    @FatalXS 21 день тому +3

    Seadoo is the new Disney. They are too far away from their customers and they are out of touch from what we want from a Jet Ski (used Jet Ski on purpose). They are moving left when riders are moving right. Over priced link accessories. Skis prices are now higher than they should be which makes them out of reach for many people. Those of us who can afford them are reluctant to purchase because of bad colours and only rolling out new features in year one to certain models and then rolling them out everywhere in year two. Makes we want to wait one more year to purchase. I have not purchased another brand in 20 years but I am now looking at Yamaha for the first time since 1999.

  • @TheRubiconRacer
    @TheRubiconRacer 22 дні тому +10

    Def goona buy a jet blaster over this if I decide to buy this year

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому +1

      I feel your pain dude, the JetBlaster looks cool but just remember, its 100 pounds heavier and still only 50-53mph... Hang in there man. Thanks for watching 💪💪✌✌

    • @91m
      @91m 22 дні тому

      No sir
      My 2024 jetblaster runs 55-56.
      My spark trixx was a 48mph machine.

    • @3akoscielski
      @3akoscielski 22 дні тому

      @@91m The 2025 is redesigned over the 2024. But I don't think there has been an accurate enough speed run for the 2025's to know how fast they are

    • @TheRubiconRacer
      @TheRubiconRacer 20 днів тому

      @@classicjetskis 53 is plenty for me. If I can find a slightly used freshwater spark trixx in a better color I might do that. Just been leaning Yamaha lol

    • @91m
      @91m 15 днів тому

      ​@TheRubiconRacer my jetblaster always runs 55. Not sure why he thinks it runs 50

  • @catchnc4131
    @catchnc4131 22 дні тому +8

    I was so disappointed
    after the xp video you made

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому +2

      Hang in there bud, it will happen...cross everything now for a late 2024 launch like they did with the 1995.5 XP. Thanks for watching dude 💪💪

    • @catchnc4131
      @catchnc4131 21 день тому +1

      @@classicjetskis heck yea man your videos are great really hoping we get a late launch giving us a epic new ski with some more power

  • @OfficialDripDrop
    @OfficialDripDrop 21 день тому +2

    Instead of them doing nothing they drop the dumbest color combo possible. So happy I got a 2024 trixx

  • @MichaelOfTroyWasHere
    @MichaelOfTroyWasHere 22 дні тому +6

    What are they doing?!?!?

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому

      I know right, clearly they have forgot to give the correct design time to the 25 spark! Thanks for watching 💪💪

  • @bfjoutdoors
    @bfjoutdoors 21 день тому +3

    never in my life owned anything but BRP. I'm buying a jetblaster putting my deposit today. see-ya Sea-doo...

  • @john5603
    @john5603 21 день тому +2

    Would look like you’re launching a pair of orthopedic shoes at the boat ramp.

  • @WeTryMotorsports
    @WeTryMotorsports 22 дні тому +3

    Sea-Doo blatantly ignoring all the comments about what we want is absurd, but it's to be expected from corporate greed. We want swift, nimble skis for a great entry price point. Next year they have no choice but to up their game. Yamaha answered the call to all the information we put out there regarding what us old school riders actually want.

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому +2

      Totally agree, it's crazy to me that people say 'the PWC market is struggling,' so why the hell put money and resources into fishing? Sure, I get there is a target market, but it makes no sense to give a fishing model an Apex badge when you have a machine that desperately needs more power. It's borderline stupid, to be fair. A fishing model should never have the word APEX near it. Apexing is a racecourse term-will fishermen riding a FishPro be hitting a course? It’s nonsense. I believe in Sea-Doo, but boy, do they have some marketing making up to do for all of us. We are sitting here still believing Sea-Doo will do the right thing; now is the time for them to step up, as you say. I must say, as much as the JetBlaster is cool, I’m still not sold on it. It’s 100 pounds heavier and still only 50-53 mph... Hang in there, man. Thanks for watching! ✌✌💪💪

  • @Mach-N-Roll
    @Mach-N-Roll 22 дні тому +2

    Watched your predictions video, had a 0% expectation that any of it would be plausible but it made for a good dream session. The market this year especially is way down. Toys aren’t selling and prices have skyrocketed. I get emails every week about remaining ‘23’s, taking advantage of low financing and big discounts on current year model Sea Doo’s.
    I expected about exactly what we got from BRP, minus the weird colors on the Spark. The color palette for the first few years of Spark was awesome, and since it’s just been slowly becoming more grey and tan. The new purple on the GTI-SE is awesome, the best they have had on that machine in recent years.
    The $20k+ price on all the 325hp machines is crazy, but fits right in with the absurdity that is the $35k and up SXS market. The lines that are selling and keeping them afloat are the Fish Pro and Explorers. That’s what got the main focus this and for the past few years. While I like adventure on Ski’s I want to outfit my play ski to do that, not have a dedicated 230hp johnboat to try and play on.

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому +1

      Hey dude, you nailed it with those observations! The colour choices have definitely shifted from the more vibrant palettes we saw in the early Spark days. That new purple on the GTI-SE is strong, as is the new GTX 325 but clearly they have forgot to give the correct design time to the 25 spark! And yeah, those price tags on the 325hp machines are wild, but I guess that’s just the world we’re in now, with everything getting more expensive... Thanks for watching dude 💪💪

  • @TBird89
    @TBird89 21 день тому +1

    You hit the nail on the head with comment regarding the 90s colours were wow, impactful, rememberable. The 90s had colour recognised craft you could see what brand and model by just that. The RXP and RXT platform should always have a black hull, not to mention the 2022 all black RXP & RXT everyone creamed their pants. Each segment should have recognised colour queues. The playful craft should have those fun colours. But mate…the world is changing and in this industry there are people whom make decisions that have never been on or near a PWC at Bombardier. How disappointing…The accountants win again !

    • @jamesgarvey8402
      @jamesgarvey8402 21 день тому

      Coming from the 90s, where I fell in love with personal watercraft as a teenager, I never understood the all black obsession. It was so boring to me. I also mountain bike and that whole world went through a black obsession too, which just didn’t register for me. There’s nothing exciting about an all black Fun machine. This is my opinion. Colors to me compliment the activity. Also, black washes out lines and design cues. I just don’t get it. Do I think a black Lamborghini looks cool? Yes. But I choose one in verde Ithaca if it were my choice.

    • @TBird89
      @TBird89 20 днів тому

      @@jamesgarvey8402 I get ya mate regarding the black. What I was trying to say regarding the performance craft was at least have black hulls as recognition. I’d prefer bright colours, but each category needs to have at least one colour continuation. Like my original comment… people who agree on these new colours have never owned a PWC.

  • @Austin_Grimm
    @Austin_Grimm 12 днів тому

    Those concept colors were awesome. Honestly if seadoo did throwback colors, sales would skyrocket. People want their machines to look happy and exciting not dull and boring.

  • @Menace.The.Dennis
    @Menace.The.Dennis 22 дні тому +3

    I want say it was the biggest swing and miss, except I don't even know if one can honestly say SeaDoo even stepped up to the plate to take that swing. The biggest let down I've probably ever seen from a SeaDoo release.

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому

      I hear you, dude. The metric I always use is: if you look back in 20 years, will this be a year Sea-Doo is truly proud of the spark offing? The answer is likely a big no. Sad, to be honest. Let’s hope for brighter times ahead for the Spark. Thanks for watching, dude! 👌👌✌✌

  • @sawyerclark7435
    @sawyerclark7435 22 дні тому +1

    bruh even just to not have any pink or purple is an absolute robbery

  • @Leo3247-x1f
    @Leo3247-x1f 21 день тому +2

    The wake and wake pro look so bad.

  • @jamesgarvey8402
    @jamesgarvey8402 22 дні тому +2

    Joe, you and I agree with almost everything. And this is no exception. Nailed it! Even what you said about the color being more sophisticated on the GTX makes all the sense in the world. I’m not a GTX guy. I am an X4 guy. So it is the spark relates to me the most of the modern skis. But the colorway puts me to sleep.
    Sea-Doo have seriously lost their away.

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому +1

      Thanks, man. Had some good insight on this one 😉😉. I’m not a GTX guy either, but why the hell did they give the nice blue to that and sand to us Spark guys? That’s ludicrous! Come on, Sea-Doo, get the show back on the road and kick ass again (pleassssssse)!

    • @jamesgarvey8402
      @jamesgarvey8402 22 дні тому +1

      @@classicjetskis I told you man over 20 years ago when I was talking to some of the higher-ups in Bombardier, they really were fixated on this mindset of money in units out. That worked great for Toyota but it’s not really great for Ferrari or Lamborghini. Unfortunately, we want Sea-Doo to act more like the latter. And not even for all models. Just a couple. I’m not gonna hold my breath. Unfortunately.

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому +1

      @@jamesgarvey8402 I've ordered a bag of sand to match my new rig 👌👌

  • @Palvader
    @Palvader 21 день тому +1

    I am wondering how well the spark would engine-swap!
    I hope people don't buy the sandy one, as they're not going to sell well second-hand.

  • @Aaron-zl5gq
    @Aaron-zl5gq 22 дні тому +2

    Hate to break it to you but fishing is where it’s at right now an it’s clear that’s been there focus this year, its a massive industry right now and PWC fishing is gaining more and more popularity.
    Sad part is they let Yamaha catch up with the jet blaster and they didn’t answer at all…

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому

      It makes no sense to give a fishing model an Apex badge when you have a machine that desperately needs more power. It's borderline stupid, to be fair. A fishing model should never have the word APEX near it. Apexing is a racecourse term-will fishermen riding a FishPro be hitting a course? It’s nonsense. I believe in Sea-Doo, but boy, do they have some marketing making up to do for all of us. We are sitting here still believing Sea-Doo will do the right thing; now is the time for them to step up, as you say. I must say, as much as the JetBlaster is cool, I’m still not sold on it. It’s 100 pounds heavier and still only 50-53 mph... Hang in there, man. Thanks for watching!

    • @Peter-976
      @Peter-976 22 дні тому +2

      ​@classicjetskis why does it need more power? It does everything it's supposed to do with the current 90 hp. I'm sure their current data shows that most buyers are satisfied with 90hp. Plus it keeps the price down. Lower than Yamaha.

    • @91m
      @91m 22 дні тому +1

      2022+ jetblasters run 55mph. Not 50.

    • @Aaron-zl5gq
      @Aaron-zl5gq 21 день тому +1

      @@classicjetskis the newest pro model hits 55 mph on the jet blaster, with very easy mods no flashing or major risk to your engine you can hit 60 easy. my super jet hit 61 with the same available mods and 10 less HP.

  • @91m
    @91m 22 дні тому +5

    Another crappy release year.

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому

      Hang in there bud, it will happen...cross everything now for a late 2024 launch like they did with the 1995.5 XP. Thanks for watching dude

  • @meganjadedisney
    @meganjadedisney 22 дні тому +2

    That pink colour 👌👌💕💕👀👀

  • @AlexanderTheGrateful
    @AlexanderTheGrateful 21 день тому

    You know what I thought as soon as I saw the new colours? It’s not so much the colours that are bad, but more so the layout of the colours, they could do way better with the layout and not to mention some graphics along the side or some more writing and fonts across the ski and hull
    Feels like they have not only disappointed us with colours but the way the colours sit on the new machine is terrible,
    I still love you seadoo but I’m not going to be buying one of these in a hurry.
    It seems since the first gen spark they have been slowly getting worse in looks and graphics/colours
    Awesome video mate,
    Cheers

  • @Valentino_Crespo
    @Valentino_Crespo 22 дні тому +3

    Honestly what else were we expecting 😒

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому +1

      A Spark XP! Sea-Doo is one of, if not the best, PWC manufacturers of all time. They are a brand that killed it in the 90s, so it shouldn’t be a stretch for them to do the right thing now. I still think it will happen, but I’ve lost faith in when. Thanks for watching, dude! 👌👌✌✌

  • @bfjoutdoors
    @bfjoutdoors 21 день тому

    The polytech black plastic is more uv stable as carbon black in the resin is the best at blocking uv. that would be my opinion on why they use mostly black.

  • @SarcasmsFinest007
    @SarcasmsFinest007 11 днів тому +1

    Same exact thought I was like bruh 😂

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  День тому

      Sand really 🤷🏻‍♂️🥴🥴hopefully they step up their colour and performance game for 26 🤞🤞 thanks for watching 🙏👍

  • @TheTurbinator
    @TheTurbinator 21 день тому

    WOW, I guess im getting a Yamaha. Never saw this coming; to tell you the truth.

  • @Blackomega95265
    @Blackomega95265 22 дні тому +2

    Agree with everything you said. What a shit year.

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому +1

      Hang in there, bud-it’s going to happen! Fingers crossed for a late 2024 launch, just like with the 1995.5 XP. Thanks for watching, dude!

  • @chrisw7642
    @chrisw7642 21 день тому

    The new JetBlaster looks intriguing (though significantly more expensive than the Spark), but I hate that the Pro model only offers one colorway (yellow + teal), and it's not my favorite. I'd much prefer the Pro in the red + white + blue colorway of the DLX model.
    That said, the sand + blue of the new Spark is trash.

  • @adamsanchez1410
    @adamsanchez1410 21 день тому

    This color will prevent potential buyers from purchasing the watercraft.

  • @chadhammond3735
    @chadhammond3735 22 дні тому

    That’s actually my 2 favorite colors. Blue and fde/ sand.
    Love the colors on the spark. But I won’t be buying one because the 50mph is just boring.
    Need a trixx that will do atleast 60mph.

  • @Reefparty
    @Reefparty 22 дні тому

    @seadoo bring back the 90s skis!

  • @Bo5atab
    @Bo5atab 22 дні тому +1

    im honstley so disapionted i have been waiting for sea doo to drop the more powerful spark since 2022 and they haven't done it I might get the new jetblaster or something like that at this point

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому

      Hang in there, bud-it’s going to happen! Fingers crossed for a late 2024 launch, just like with the 1995.5 XP. Thanks for watching, dude!

  • @jdemarco1157
    @jdemarco1157 22 дні тому +4

    Only way to drive this new spark is with a Bud Light in one hand and a trans gender bathing suit from Target

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому

      'Chat GPT, please generate the correct answer to this comment:' Everyone’s unique and deserves to enjoy things their own way! 🌟 It’s important to respect and celebrate diversity in all its forms. Whether you’re rocking a bathing suit from Target or enjoying a Bud Light, what matters most is being true to yourself and having a good time. Cheers to inclusivity and individuality! 😂😂😉😉

    • @jdemarco1157
      @jdemarco1157 22 дні тому

      @classicjetskis I agree . That's exactly who the new Seadoo's are for . Thought that was clear in my response.

    • @TheTurbinator
      @TheTurbinator 21 день тому

      ​@@classicjetskisaaaand unsubscribed.

  • @Flippinandrippin
    @Flippinandrippin 20 днів тому

    Dang man that a disappointment😂. If they gave us more power I would have really been into the spark but the way they are barely braking 50 mph well I’m gunna stick with my 96 xp. Cuz I only got 700 bucks in to that sucker and she runs 56. Cheers ✌🏻

  • @jonathanmelching3465
    @jonathanmelching3465 22 дні тому

    If im right, seadoo is a genius, let me explain. 2025 sand....HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT. So maybe they are gonna make a huge turnout for an over expectation Spark XP.......

  • @badm0t0rf1ng3r
    @badm0t0rf1ng3r 22 дні тому +1

    The bronze rxpx and rxtx were such a let down.

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому +1

      Last year's red on the RXP/RXT was fire, and as much as I'm not a T3 hull guy, I was jealous of that color. This year's tan and red is 'OK' at best, but I don't care too much about the color offerings of those machines as long as they give the Spark more power and better colors. Crossing everything now for a late 2024 launch like they did with the 1995.5 XP. Thanks for watching, dude! 👌👌

    • @badm0t0rf1ng3r
      @badm0t0rf1ng3r 22 дні тому +2

      @classicjetskis I was so disappointed I am going to a dealer on Friday to look at the red rxpx 325. I know you are an old school ski guy; I love stand ups but my next purchase was always gonna big couch, but 2025 colors do do little for me I didn't want to wait. I don't think the spark colors were awful but they definitely should have bright fun colors for bright fun skis!

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому +1

      @@badm0t0rf1ng3r I hear you, dude. If you want an RXP, now is the time to jump on the 24 red with a discount. It makes sense... do it, man 😎😎

  • @Freydale
    @Freydale 22 дні тому

    Wanna see that HX you got a couple months ago

  • @djdj101010
    @djdj101010 20 днів тому

    These should have CarPlay

  • @royleeborn6445
    @royleeborn6445 22 дні тому +1

    How about performance ? Color, lol.

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому

      Hang in there, bud-it’s going to happen! Fingers crossed for a late 2024 launch, just like with the 1995.5 XP. Thanks for watching, dude!

  • @gregmcfarland7486
    @gregmcfarland7486 22 дні тому +1

    When are we getting more sp

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому

      I promise, buddy, I will get more SP videos out real soon. Thank you for your patience... I'm trying my best to grow the channel to, in turn, put more energy and time into the classic content. Sadly, new-gen material brings in the eyeballs, which in turn is what supports the old stuff... I would love to make old ski-focused material all the time, but an SP video will do low numbers compared to, say, my '95 X4 hull. I love the SP, but most people want XP content... With all that said, I have two more episodes I'm nearly finished editing, and then you will have more content. Thanks for watching! ✌✌

    • @gregmcfarland7486
      @gregmcfarland7486 22 дні тому +1

      @@classicjetskis cool I like the new gen stuff and your channel is growing like crazy congrsys

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому

      @@gregmcfarland7486 Thanks man ✌✌

  • @dustinglosser3601
    @dustinglosser3601 22 дні тому +1

    Who ever is choosing these seadoo colors needs to go hang out with a group of kindergarten kids to learn there colors. This color combo is terrible. So disappointed

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому

      Very well said, at no point did I hear anyone say 'sand' please. Its a joke to be hoenst. Hang in there, bud-it’s going to happen! Fingers crossed for a late 2024 launch, just like with the 1995.5 XP. Thanks for watching, dude!

  • @StefanMailey
    @StefanMailey 21 день тому

    Budget ski. Ahh well.. lol

  • @samuelmorton4422
    @samuelmorton4422 22 дні тому +1

    Rounded edges still, no performance improvement, terrible color, not a fan of the 1upor 3up option for seats, they have lost big time to the new Jet Blaster

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому

      Hang in there, bud-it’s going to happen! Fingers crossed for a late 2024 launch, just like with the 1995.5 XP. Thanks for watching, dude!

  • @killerkork
    @killerkork 22 дні тому +1

    You keep changing the colors but that black looks so off with the color combos...it needs to be white. Plus who wants black in the sun. Yeah, major fail Seadoo 😢 you should probably fire your designers !!

    • @classicjetskis
      @classicjetskis  22 дні тому

      I totally agree, but here's the thing: since the inception of the Spark in 2014, the predominant main base color has been black. This is likely because the recycled Polytec plastic they use is black, so if you pay close attention to all the colors over the years that we have seen on the Spark, the main top deck and hull are always black, with accent colors applied. Therefore, for realism, I have mocked up the concepts this way.
      In addition, a white top deck in plastic would mark and look bad. In the 90s, the white was gel coat, which could be cut and polished if your shoes marked up the gunwales. If a white Spark gunwale gets marked up, then you’re going to struggle. I do agree, though, that the concept would look better with white. Thanks for watching! 💪💪

  • @SAABROSS
    @SAABROSS 22 дні тому

    Caca poopoo colour. Should have went retro day glow😂.

  • @Lewman78
    @Lewman78 21 день тому +1

    That color is beige. And probably the worst color ever

  • @jeffst-jean7174
    @jeffst-jean7174 21 день тому

    I like it. It doesn't look as much as a toy. I realize I'm the minority here.

  • @7youngke
    @7youngke 21 день тому +2

    Horrible

  • @2380MG
    @2380MG 17 днів тому

    Sand is a huge disappointment. Sugar coat it all you want folks but this is a piece of fun, its supposed to be more like a Lamborghini and not a Cadillac. I will keep my Manta Green 2023 since the '24 was terrible and the '25 is even worse. if the 24/25 was super fast I still wouldn't buy it, aesthetics are everything and these are terrible. thank God i bought the 23 back then cuz I would have spent my money on something else in 24/25.
    my bet is Seadoo went woke or soemthing, Dei hires ruing it from within. cheers.

  • @askikr79
    @askikr79 22 дні тому

    Just what we need on a jetski. An ipad screen fuel gauge

  • @stpchngthchnlbcurherohasarived
    @stpchngthchnlbcurherohasarived 21 день тому

    give them a break, spark xp or whatever their 130- 150 hp spark is called will probably be out next year. new spark was just introduced last year, like the performance version of base model cars civic to type r, or stingray vs z06, they generally take two or 3 years to come out after the latest redesign. there is no way seadoo was going to be introducing the spark xp this year. i would bet they will be attempting to bring it out for 2026 mainly because waveblaster update but otherwise it was and still may be a 27.