Sleeping: neck shoulders and pillows | Feat. Kelly Starrett | Ep. 37 | MobilityWOD
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- Good sleeping habitus. Pillow and neck and shoulder optimization. Shin splint stretch
Happy baby brown eye scratch stretch.
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Sleeping: neck shoulders and pillows | Feat. Kelly Starrett | Ep. 37 | MobilityWOD
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i like the occasional comment calling this bullshit and referring to him as a cult guru whatever type of guy...
he works as a consultant to some of the biggest sports franchises in the world. his title is, in fact, "doctor." and if you've ever tried it, his shit actually works and helps, as evidenced by the thousands (tens?) of people saying so.
Thinking outside of the box is a scary concept to some people. They fear what they don’t know, and so they get defensive.
This bloke deserves the Nobel Prize imo. Genius and has spawned a new and very important "industry".
"But it's also kind of called 'the brown star stretch'"
Killing me, man.
Whoa, what a great tip on putting a towel in the pillowcase! I have slept two night now doing thing and what a difference it has made for me. I have been having trouble with shoulder pain too and I did the extra pillow under the arm deal and woke up with no pain first thing in the morning in months. Glad I found your channel!
Holy crap, after watching 3 MWod sleep videos and then trying it.... neck support (yep a towel) and the proper under knee bolster dialed in, I instantly went from rough sleep consisting of back, side, 3/4 and stomach tossing and turning hot mess into a solid, well rested, woke up in the same position I fell asleep in back sleeper. (Didn’t expect instant and amazing results - but I got them).
I’m just a nobody who feels pretty physically broken and utterly unlike my former high speed self (quit working out like a beast, sick of walking with a limp and in general discouraged because all that stuff starts a general cascade downward) looking to rebuild and re-engineer in all the fundamental areas.... better quality sleep has felt like a total game changer.
So thank you for putting this out there. No one else has been able to give me decent, applicable advice when I ask for it. I love that he explains the whys behind what he advises and provides guidance for self diagnosis. It’s much easier to fix a problem when you are given easy ways to spot it.
Thanks, Kelly for making me more keenly aware of the myriad ways to really get after whole body mobility issues. I feel like your contribution to public health is phenomenal and life extending. I am also impressed by the fact that thanks to your instruction, I have a ton of self work to do! Thanks for the instruction and for your humanity!
Thank yo for everything you do @Kelly Starrett
now I know why I'm having shoulder and neck pain. THANK YOU!
Can't thank you enough. I wake up so sore every morning, the neck killing me. Even the thicker pillow didn't help, so now I see what to do! Thank you!!!
This bloke is a legend.
Nobodyspecial seriously. How do I ever plan on making it in the world if this guy isn’t world reknown
Kelly, thanks for writing Supple Leopard, and for these videos. Oh that anterior compartment / toe stretch is rough.. nice
Sleep is so important and this is valuable information. Thanks Kelly
God Bless! Thank you for all your good works that you do and the help you provide to so many including myself!
This is brilliant i have chronic neck and shoulder pain from sleeping on my front but i just did the tennis ball massage and have put a rolled up towel in my pillow , already tried the pillow and it is brilliant , hope it ends my pain , thank you for posting
whatever did it work for you?
I'm still having some pain but it has helped thank you
+JesusIsMySaviour did it end your pain now on the long run`?
Yes it did thank you .
JesusIsMySaviour
good to hear!:)
kelly starrett you're my hero.
Thanks you, my pain went away with that ball on the shoulder. Thank you!
I will be using this info tonight.... my neck pain is driving me crazy!!
I live by this man's word
Best part of this is that you whisper since it's bed time.
One of the funniest videos, "Just on the phone!"
mathematics1800 no big deal
You have helped me tremendously, sir. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
OMG!!! Thank you so much!!! I was sleeping wrong and I hurt my shoulder and neck some times but today iam sooooo in painnn I can barely move my neck and my shoulder is on fire!!! I will try tonight. Thx
Thanks Kelly. It’s 10pm here in the U.K. and I’m just about to roll an towel up and slide it into my pillow. I think I’ve given myself bursitis from shoddy sleep habits over the years. 😐
Thanks Kelly! Love your channel, so much knowledge given to all of us! Keep it up!
Thanks Kelly, I appreciate your videos and expertise
I do the same thing, and man your diet has alot to do with the way you sleep. In fact, I went to the doctor before going to physio and he mentioned that resorting to a position like sleeping on your stomach at night, is a behaviour that can be related to high stress and is a way of forcing your body into achieving your first REM cycle faster. He mentioned that by including fish oils and starchy carbs at night like oatmeal (nutrients that optimize brain function) you can actually further..
such a legend, excellent role model too
I know this is an old video, but I would love to know what you think about Katy Bowman's perspective on sleeping positions, pillows etc. So stoked to finally start studying your work. You and your wife are amazing and inspiring! Thanks!!!
Much thanks! I figured there something wrong with how i place the pillow
I'm trying this tonight! Thanks.
I will try this tonight I have such a sore stiff neck hope it helps I am sure it's my pillow ..thanks
Awesome looking forward to trying all of these
I love your vids but the volume was a bit soft low on this one.
i dont sleep with pillows for the very reason you stated i like the blood flow to the brain for nourishment and clear thinking and it helps also on the cervical and i have to say it wasnt easy weaning myself off pillows
“Pain makes you beautiful.”
sleeping like a world war I veteran hahahaha! too funny
What about sleeping on your stomach WITHOUT a pillow?
Yeah Wassup! Kelly starret getting my sleep game on point. I'm gonna be the best sleeper there ever was. Look at that mobility, I'm a god dammed leopard
Thank you for sharing!
I suffered Thoracic Outlet Syndrome after one bad upright row the gym Oct. Extremely painful and debilitating. Only now getting back in the gym. Still can't lift 5lbs over my head. I think poor sleeping habits contributed to both shoulders - not just the injured one, being susceptible to injury.
Thank you. This is awesome!
dammnn! Ive been sleepin on my stomach all my life... thanks for the video!!!!!
wow that was helpful :) thank you Dr.!
This guy got jokes i love it
MrTrex183 so Genius, so hilarious
you are a legend, man!
Any advice for stomach sleeping. Three weeks out from lower back injury and physio. It's the one habit I'm having such a hard time breaking. I've slept this way for as long as I can remember. Love your videos!
Sleeping on your back will prevent face wrinkles from forming or getting any worse! Also helps with chest wrinkles
thankssssssss!! thank you, thank you!
been thinking about this thanks good points
I've been sleeping on my stomach my entire life and it's the only way I can fall asleep. I even tried training myself to sleep on my side and back. I was up for 3 days until I was too exhausted and just said fuck it. Looks like I'll need to give it another go..
+Bro James me too man!. my 3 yr old son is the same way. i feel sorry for the little guy. the apple doesnt fall far from the tree
+Bro James it takes a lot of time to change the sleeping position. I also used to sleep on my stomach but after my neck issues which brought the hell on earth , i made adjustments..
+Bro James
I don't think there are any issues sleeping on the stomach, I got no pain or stiffness doing that. I'd also not use a pillow when sleeping on the stomach.
+Bro James me too! On my back or on my side I tend take wake up immediately again just when I'm about to go into deeper sleep! Really annoying! But I must say I've never had any problems or pain because of it (yet) so there hasn't been any motivation (except others saying its bad) to ditch the habit.
So how exactly did early humans sleep? I realize they probably didn't suffer from the sedentary problems that modern man suffers from but I imagine our ancient ancestors didn't have the mot "comfortable" means of sleeping like we do and they probably still were fully capable of living a badass and capable existence. It just doesn't make sense that nature would mess that part of humans up (needing to sleep in a very specific manner) because if it did then we wouldn't have made it this long.I don't mean to come off like a smart ass but this is something I've always wondered.
Our ancestors were busy all day long, gathering necessities for survival. Once they hit the ground, they were asleep. I imagine that some even slept on their feet. I'm so thankful for all these tips. We who suffer with pain appreciate these experts. It's better than having injections and, ultimately, surgery.
Hi Kelly, firstly happy new year! I've just discovered your channel today, looks great! Thank you. I have a shoulder rotor cuff problem, and wondered if you could help me. I sleep on my stomach with my right arm under the pillow bend at 90 degrees at the elbow, with my fat head laying on it. I've had my shoulder sub-locate a few times when pressing dumb bells on a 45 degree bench press, its also happen when doing a behind the neck barbell press (Which i now know is a big no no!) I've had it Xrayed, there are no big problems they could find. I also had a physio the other year, but it never really solved my problems. He said my subscapularis was quote "unbelievably tight!" i know it hurts like mad when i get a sports massage on it! (right where the muscle meets the ball on my arm bone, at the front of my shoulder)I'm guessing me sleeping on it is causing this?
I'm wanting to get back into training, but know i need to work on my shoulder before hand.
If I put my arm straight out in front of me with my thumb facing the sky, then move it at shoulder height backwards (like doing a reserves fly, with a straight arm) i get a clicking sensation in the front of my shoulder when my arm passes my ear(very similar to cracking yours knuckles) i don't believe its my joint, but a tendon or muscle making this noise (kind of like it rolling over the bone being really tight) right in the region where my subscapularis meets my ball bone on my arm.
I also have winging of the scapular on this same right arm, i can stick my shoulder blade out into a point almost, i'm wondering if these two are linked?
I would appreciate any advice off you, and if possible, if you could do a post on this and showing some stretches/ strengthening drills?
Thanks again Adam
All the best over 2015!!!
@Lochaby Rocks, man, rocks. :)
hmm i sleep on the floor without any pillow... i sleep on my back but always wake up on my chest so ye neck feels kinda strange sometimes. thx for video!
makes perfect sense!
you rock.
Da
This is very useful video!!!my shoulders come forward after sleeping:(
I am stealing "Camp Out"... done it's mine... sue me :)
I'm in love with starret
Kelly, in this video you mention with the happy baby that the feet naturally face forward,… well I'm having trouble as mine are facing out quite badly? I have particularly tight abductors and hamstrings. Is there something I could be doing wrong?
Cheers for the awesome video!
I have always refrained from placing a pillow under my neck when sleeping sideways, in fear it might block some arteries there that go to the brain. Any suggestion on avoiding that? thanks
I've been sleeping wrong my entire life.
Awesome! thanks for all the help, I'm going to try some of the fish oil pills and east some oatmeal before bed and see if that's enough to fix it.
Still don't know what to do with the hand LMAO
And you are doing the demonstration on the floor. There is some difference when your whole body sinks into the bed. You would need less support (the way you are showing it) in a bed versus a floor. Just my theory though.
What kind of ball is that?
No. Since sleep is very important for health our bodies are obviously optimized for sleeping on the ground without a pillow - and the comfortable and extremely stable position for sleeping thus is on the side with about a 70 degree angle to the ground (the combination of body weight and resistance in the quad makes it extremely stable, the shoulder is highly flexible and has built-in padding, and it is comfortable to rest the head on the temple).
This totally makes sense b/c people before 2016 we were absolute total morons. Just absolute idiots. Nobody, could ever have possible thought of grab some leaves, put them in a pile on top of a flat rock and make a pillow with to keep your neck in a nice neutral position like was done with the rolled up towel here. Nope. Nobody. Oh wait, a sec. Maybe if I thought of that concept after 3 seconds after reading your 'theory', someone else with years of time to think on their hand while suffering from insomnia or a bad nights sleep could have thought of it...
Gee, I guess your theory doesn't stand up to a few seconds of thought or we are so smart, intelligent and perfect Erik, that only our intellect today in 2016 could come up with such an idea. Back 300 to 2000 years ago, nobody ever thought to make things out of sticks, branches or leaves. That bow and arrow thing? A myth; I tell you. A myth.
Sleeping without a pillow has changed my life. Literally. Improved vision, breathing, deeper and freer voice, body range of motion and suppleness. Ever since I came across this article about instinctive sleeping and resting postures - www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1119282/. Thank me later. Ditch the pillows and enjoy.
❤🙏
@2:20 is so true ha
but ive just got caught in a black hole of watching your videos I love all of them
damn this is good info
are those lacrosse balls you use for your stretches?
holy crap
highly interesting
What about sleeping on your front with no pillow? I do that some times and use my arms or hands as a 'head support'
Kelly! What about no pillow? Is stomach sleeping still a no no? Pillows aren't really paleo are they?
World war 1 vet in the hospital 😂
What do you do if your feet point out when you try to “happy baby”?
yeah how do you solve if your ankles go out along with the knees?
if i lie sideways then i squeeze my shoulder joint capsule. my shoulders espacially my left shoulder is slightly bent forward. i watched your scapula mobilization video will that help me to fix the problem?
Yeah, I have slept and sat poorly for years...My shoulders are startign to really roll forward, will the scapular mobilizatoin video help with correcting these issues?
Don't you just love it when a man knows how to assume the position.... lol = 0 )))))))
@Lochaby he said stomach sleeping is the DEVIL!
Doug Hurtzel.... Hertzel..... How do you spell it? Google ins't helping me out...
+John Morton Did you figure it out??
What if i sleep on my stomach without a pillow ,Or without at all?
I need your help!
This might sound weird!, but when I sleep on my side I wake up with sore collarbones and when I get up and pull my shoulders down, My collarbones crack and pop!
Need your help I'm 17 and this has been going on for quiet some time now!
Are you already doing the towel trick? Your shoulder is probably out of alignment due to one of the three rotator cuff muscles being weak and unable to stabilize your shoulder properly. You might also be over activating your trap muscles or have them over developed. Try doing the Dr. Kirschner Method for 3 weeks or so. See if that helps. It's basically hanging with your hands in a pull up position(not chin up) and letting your shoulders completely relax so it fully stretches. Don't try to pull yourself up at all and be fully extended at the bottom of a pull up for 15-60 seconds with no tension in your shoulders. Just letting it full stretch. Then using 5 pound weights or whatever you can do '30' times in a row....raising up and over your head via a large circular arc....Another round of hanging. Then out to your sides to over your head, another round of stretching, then back at ~45 degrees from your body, another round of stretching.
Dr. Bradley something has a great video on it.
Dude I sleep on my stomach with my head turned and have been trying to switch to the back because I had neck/shoulder but I always turn over to my stomach during the night and wake up that way how do i change this??
“this is REALLY REALLY painful, not gonna lie.. I don’t care. Pain makes you beautiful.”
but i love sleeping on my stomach:(
When he lays on his back around 4:50, kelly keeps saying how his feet naturally turn straight, and dont turn out 30º or whatever. my feet turn out very much and they wont go straight. Is there someway to fix this? Or can someone direct me to a video to help with this?
+Joe Eacott kelly has lots of mobility videos for that issue. Watch em all.
+Joe Eacott check the internal rotation videos, I have the same problem and I noticed it kind of corrected a bit by internally rotating my femurs while stretching my hips. Of course I searched KStarr's video on it and I noticed that I have very little range of motion there, probably it's the same for you
kelly
I injured my thoracic and lumbar, hence started sleeping on my stomach;
Now I am so *ked;
I wish I could sleep standing up....
if i dont sleep on my stomach i cant fall into a deep sleep.. i tried to sleep on my back all night and i was semi-awake...what to do?
Stay awake for 24 hours straight without sleep aka pull an all nighter. When you go to sleep the following night on your back, I guarantee you will be so exhausted, you will fall asleep right away, deeply and remain asleep the whole night. Position doesn't matter when you are tired. You've now broken your pattern/belief that "wahhhh I can't sleep my back. wahhhhhh."
but when my knees are out my feet go along with where my knees are pointing on their own
lol happy baby....
cause i'm sleeping in a d-bag position LMAO
die kurtzel/kerzel who?
You want natural posture and position? Sleep naturally... on the ground, on the floor, no pillow, no mattress.
Natural Nate dont be stupid
Chris R
Don't be ignorant. Chris R
Natural Nate Yeh i am ignorant lol sleeping on a hard ground is by far the best for us because that's how our ancestors did it :/
Okay I'm gonna stop sleeping on my stomach.
wht this guy name?
Kelly
At 4:07 wait....am I watching some kind of porn right now? Because I feel that this will be very hard to explain to someone that jumps behind my back while am watching it.
In Islam it's a sin to sleep on your stomach...no wonder.
Funny that an arm of somebody else sleeping next to you like a significant other would do the same job.