A fundamental difference between a belief in Voltron and a belief in Yahweh is that if enough people believed in Voltron and got proper funding they could conceivably create a "real" Voltron.
Ken Ham: "Atheism is a religion" Bill Nye: "Ok fine! It is!" Ken Ham: "Great! Now don't disrespect other religions! That's wrong!" Bill Nye: "Just like you do towards other religions?"
He could've also said that he doesn't make fun of it just because it's a religion, but because of the ideas that it has. calling atheism a religion doesn't change bill's respect towards it.
Almost 6 years on, I still link this all the time to theists that try to play the "why do they argue against God if they don't believe in him, unless they secretly do believe in him and are rebelling against him?". Kudos NSC; this video will likely still be referenced a decade after its release. :-)
Jaxson Bateman Now we just need a video on the obvious counterargument "If you truly believe in God why do you spend so much time arguing FOR him?" Doesn't his existence stand on it's own without your arguments? Didn't christ say something about being blessed when people persecute you in matt 5:11-12? Maybe it makes more sense that you secretly DON'T believe in God, and that's why you spend so much energy railing against the non believers. Sorry NSC if you already have this! I'm binging through your solid gold videos as we speak.
hey man i just want to let you know, 10 years ago i was a bible thumper and now im a proud skeptic which has led me to become a proud athiest. the fight youre fighting has won a battle with me, and therefore youre as a fact partially responsible for another athiest in the world and perhaps more if i have kids and if they have kids, as i will be teaching skepticism and critical thinking to them. im happier now that im an athiest, and im going to take the mantle and work to challenge people who havent yet implemented critical thinking yet in life. thank you for fighting this fight its meant the actual world to me.
Voltron if far greater than yahweh, zeus and the rest, as Voltron doesn't need believers to do his work, if he wants something done, he does it himself.
+NonStampCollector First time commenting on youtube video. hope I am not doing it wrong! Just found your posts and surprised you're replying up till this point. I think You have very fine reasoning points and I appreciate that you are able to see the holes in "Christianity"
+niizsn "I agree that Christians shouldn't be using this argument." No, they should be using reasonable evidence, but they can't because there isn't any. This is why they jump to ridiculous garbage like this. My favorite piece of Christian 'logic' is 'You can't prove god does not exist, therefore he does!' Ha ha
+Jye Woberts Right...not even one! Thought for sure there'd be at least one rant about how someone is going to hell for some reason or the other. Guess you can't fight against perfect logic.
In the context of humanity or even a society six years are meaningless. Jesus Christ is more than 2000 years old and there's a lot of people that think they know him.
Because its brand new, the name is retarded and you only hear it from people trying to mock theists. Why wouldn't they be annoyed by it? When youre attacking their beliefs that have been indoctrinated to believe since they were mere embryos in their mommas womb. Everybody gets offended when they're mocked bro no matter what irrelevant thing they believe. You would feel the same way too. Because you're a human fucken being lmao fuck I am bored right now. I always hated the spaghetti monster 👹 so I just needed to rant
Anything is better than the ♫♪ "I'm going to torture all you skeptical fuckers" ♫♪ song. Let's not forget the ♪♫ "Genocide and conquest rape are fun!" ♪♫ song. That's a classic from way back.
This was an awesome video. Although in nobody's defense, I think having a real-life Voltron would be a significant boost to our department of defense, no?
we would never have to put another penny towards defense. threaten us and a giant indestructible robot descends from the sky and laser beams you're cities to pieces.
and if voltron were to fail( most likely wear and tear from all the carnage it would inflict upon our enemies.) We have the thundercats as pilots to continue the mission.
As an Atheist, I do not care what people think or believe. What I do Care about is what people DO!!! This Point is summed up very well in another great video by NonStampCollector. “You’re allowed to believe in a god. You’re allowed to believe unicorns live in your shoes for all I care. But the day you start telling me how to wear my shoes so I don’t upset the unicorns, I have a problem with you. The day you start involving the unicorns in making decisions for this country, I have a BIG problem with you.” - Matthew Schultz
I also had to subscribe. This man is an incredible philosopher. His points are so eloquently made and humorous to boot, and light hearted enough not to directly insult but to induce questions that religious people need to ask themselves. A++ UA-camr, would subscribe again.
Without being a group we have very little if any political clout. Without political clout, we have very little hope of effecting much change. Without effecting much change, then we slowly droon onward, while the religious, who ARE formed into politically powerful groups with money to burn, will continue to downgrade our science education, our civil rights, our laws, and continue their attempts to enslave us with ultimate punishments for thought crimes. So let's move toward groupdom...we cannot let the Church of Satan be the only official atheistic group out there...other than the Secular Humanists, the American Atheists, and all the other non-religious, somewhat anti-theistic, groups that already exist.
I’ve watched at least 20 videos, and at first I was thinking to myself “Yea but (insert the reason God did this)” but it was the Noah’s Ark videos that did it, thank you for opening my eyes. I’d say God bless you but... that doesn’t really work cause he’s not real. I still have a long ways to go, even as I type a little voice is like “Stop that! God will denounce you if you denounce him!” Thanks man
@@michaelnewman7248 Former baptist, but I heard that "blaspheming" the "holy spirit" was the surest way to piss off yahweh, the most evil character in all fiction.
@@Arkloyd how interesting. official catholic doctrine is that it's the only sin that won't be forgiven. an antibaptism of sorts. i didn't know other sects put the same weird emphasis on it
As a firm advocate for the Church of the Five Lions, I confess that the lack of Voltron based laws and collective Voltron quoting in schools, is not for lack of trying on our part.
I am so sick of religious nuts trying to control our society and telling me, a non Christian what I can and cannot do outside of their friggin churches. I am not an atheist. I am a pagan and a lesbian and proud of it, as you should be proud of your atheism. I love atheists. At least y'all have moral sense and stand for what is eight. Keep up the good videos man. :)
Dude, NonStampCollector, I love you. I literally physically love you! You. Are. Awesome. (First yime I'm watching one of your very early videos). You're fucking awesome.
+Jean-Frédéric Rolland "This is what atheism does to society! It demolishes the solid moral standards established by the Bible! It is because of atheism that you have become... *cringe* ... homosexual."
Javier Castro Lol... What makes you believe that I'm an homosexual ? Don't you people know about hyperbole? No? How about critical thinking? Have you ever read the whole bible? I have. If I put to you some passages from that farce of a compilation, but told you it came from somewhere else (maybe the Coran) you would be disgusted and outraged. But because it's the stupid bible, you will excuse ANY desecration of human dignity in the name of a god who acts like a psychopathic 5 year old. Also, why did, you go "cringe" about gays? Do you spend a lot of time imagining the goings on in gay people's bedrooms? You really shouldn't do that. Myself, I REALLY DON'T want to think about what YOU do in YOUR bedroom... CRINGE!!
Javier Castro OH I GET IT!! You believe everything you read is real!! Well let me help you out... have you ever said anything along the lines of: I would kill for xyz? Then you're a murderer right? Ok... Now stop fantasizing about about grown men sucking each other off! It's getting kind of embarrassing, really!
"Why are you arguing religion with me? Why do you feel the need to defend it? Simply, you must secretly have strong doubts. You're SECRETLY atheists!" Nailed it.
How can you not believe in Voltron; he and his mighty heraldic lions have just proved their existence by gracing us with a new season on Netflix made by the holy people at Studio Mir. Blasphemy. Repent of your heathen sins lest ye be judged by Voltron's mighty blade and ion cannon!
Question: Can we please lobby for Five massive lions to come together to make an all powerful fighting machine with a massive silver sword? I would honestly think it would be fucking awesome if the US military built giant voltrons don't lie that you wouldn't think it's bad ass if we had one. .
I think China has the patent for a Voltron fighting machine...just like they'll have the patents for Green energy generators while we Americans will be stuck with oil and coal...thanks to good Christians like Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell...
I don't know if I'll ever stop being a theist, but your videos have taught me more about critical thinking than all my years in a church. Genuinely thankful to have found your channel.
@@d_camara I grew up going to a Christian (Baptist) church. That kinda answers both questions. I first started believing in God because I was taught to by my church and a few family members (only my mom and grandparents are Christian). I'm down to talk about why I'm still a theist after this past year of questioning everything I've been taught about God and the Bible.
I live in a fairly religious area in the southern US and even I have never heard anyone use this “you really do believe” argument. It’s…painfully stupid.
In the name of the Black, Red, Green, Yellow and Blue Lions, GoLion. Our Voltron who art in Altea, hollow be thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Altea. And give us this day our fault bread, and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not to the Galra but deliver us from Zarkon. GoLion.
Jordan Peterson actually used this foolish argument with Sam Harris and Matt Dillahunty, and they both demolished Peterson's vacuous and ridiculous theory. It was glorious to watch.
I truly don't understand the appeal of Jordan Peterson. My very religious family practically worships the guy as some kind of ideological giant, but, quite plainly, outside of his professional field of psychology, the guy is a fucking idiot. I've heard it put that he's the dumb person's smart man, and I think a more apt description would be hard to find.
This is NOT falling solely on deaf ears. 14 years ago, I wasn't ready for this line of thinking. NOW, I am. Your pithy conveyance of sound reasoning is helping me with my own quest for truth. Thank you so much for recording this. Better late than never for some of us. 😊
If I may say so myself, even as early as 2008 I could see that some of the UA-cam videos that people were making were going to stand through time, and others were going to be dated and irrelevant very quickly. I decided that I'd try to make things with a longer shelf life. To this day I sometimes thank the gods for having given me that insight in my earliest weeks of making videos.
I'm lost for words. Well done and greetings from Ireland where people are still in the grip of the church. I have shared all your videos with my family.
It's now 2022 and I have only just discovered this channel. I have now whatched about 20 of your videos. My new favourite UA-cam channel. Absolutely excellent. Thank you
wait wait wait... Let's not gloss over the important part of this video. Now, what exactly do we have to do to secure that public money to construct five giant metal lions?
GOD I LOVE HOW OUT SPOKEN YOU ARE!!!! I’ve said it before, but I always wonder why we have to approach critiquing religion with “sensitivity “ when their beliefs harm people and promote barbaric violence. I’m writing a story that critiques religion, mainly Christianity, and people keep telling me to be “sensitive “ or “careful “ or to be sure to point out the good sides of religion. WHY?!?
No, Flying Spaghetti Monster is real and there is no way you can convince me other wise, he came to me in a dream and helped me find my car keys this morning
So, are you suggesting that atheists secretly believe in Yahweh? I should make a video about that. If I did, would you watch it before commenting on it? I just want to make sure it would be worth my bother...
Well, we're not refuting Thorists, nor would I dare after what +asj1031 pointed out :p Besides Ganesh opened interdimensional portals at Cern and made conspiracy theorists forget what their favorite breakfast was called in the 1980's. Those are gods to be reckoned with. Jahwe and Allah only make empty threats and hollow promises. Sure, they burnt cities and drowned millions, but they lost all of their power. I think He-Man might have something to do with that...
@ajs1031 wouldn't that be a Nordic Pagan? Unless you only believe in Thor. There were people who believed in multiple gods but only worshipped one, though.
love this video, its the best. Just imagine if all country starts taxing this business so called religion, we might solve most of the issues we are facing today. Imaging those money being invested in science especially in medicine and research on cure for diseases. We could have turned this place into heaven, unfortunately this dream is never going to become reality.
I agree on all points (no, I'm not a theist) except,.... I think a real, true to scale, working Voltron would be pretty damn cool. From a practical standpoint, I'm thinking of the advances in material sciences and other technologies involved, and would have no issue paying for it by, say, terminating the F-35 program, the M1-A1 Abhram tank program and doing with two less aircraft carriers.
I usually bring up the same explanation, but with Sauron instead of Voltron. Yet instead of thinking about it for a second or even listening properly, most apologists just angrily claim that their god is real and nothing like Sauron.
It's similar bringing up the Flying Spaghetti Monster. A lot of theists just dismiss it out of hand as a straw man without refuting the analogy properly.
Correct response: if you say that Sauron isn't real, then that proves that you secretly believe in Sauron! You just admitted that you think Sauron is real! Use their own arguments against them. ;)
NonStampCollector, you made my Saturday night. Big props to you for your argument, or weak cheese for my idea of the weekend? Anyway, subscribed. Now I'd better see more VOLTRON references...
You, my friend, are the greatest modern philosopher I know. Technically, there is no longer any need for philosophy since science has left it in the dust. However, so many people choose not to believe in science and philosophy is needed to turn them toward a realistic and scientific world view. I cite your videos to everyone I know who is in need of a reality check. Thank you for taking such time to make these videos. Your satire skill rank is jedi.
I disagree with you. Science is the sum and pursuit of knowledge, but philosophy at it's core is the question of how best to apply, or not apply, that knowledge to things.
I had to pause the video toward the end there, because I was with you on the Voltron and God thing but... Look here sir, He-Man is real! And there’s nothing you can say to change my mind, heretic. Lol
I love how Sarah Palin shows up during the Voltron segement...LOL I wish you would do some more vids, these are instant CLASSICS! I'd especially love to see a series taking on all the major apologetics currently in vogue on the youtubes. Great stuff!
Conjecture: To win a debate with a creationist you must offer bait -- a weak argument. Otherwise they will just ignore it. Then slowly corner them letting them think they are winning, giving them lots of rope to say truly stupid things. This argument was too strong.
+MrChristainchris Do you believe that those who accept this right to believe in no gods, and thus don't believe in one, deserve eternal punishment for it?
+MrChristainchris Matthew 25:46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.” Part of parable, out of context you may say. Jude 13 [These people are] wild waves of the sea, casting up the foam of their own shame; wandering stars, for whom the gloom of utter darkness has been reserved forever.
MrChristainchris Well, see what your "research" shows up about what Jesus meant by "eternal" in: “And these will depart into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life”, as recorded in Matthew 25:46. Perhaps by "eternal" He meant "not-eternal". How would one know? Hmmmm; mystery, that.
Almost 11 years later... excellent arguments, NonStampCollector! The only small problem I have is that I have yet, in +65 years of life, to see a picture of an actual, living ostrich "sticking its head in the sand." Talk about cartoons! (Note that Disney started the myth that lemmings commit mass suicides, too.) As ostriches have strong legs and a wicked kick, and of course can run fast if they so desire, it is highly likely they will stand and fight and their enemy will retire from the battle field with severe injuries. So while I know why you used those drawings, they don't help your argument really.... Other than that, you're doing a great job!
GUYS I PROVED THE EXISTENCE OF POWER RANGERS 1. EITHER THE POWER RANGERS ARE REAL OR VOLTRON IS REAL 2. VOLTRON IS NOT REAL 3. THE POWER RANGERS ARE REAL!1!!!!!!!!!!11!11!1!1!!11!111!!!!
We don’t argue against the existence of voltron Because nobody has ever seriously suggested that we base our entire system of keeping track of when things happened around if things happened before or after the creation of voltron
Already watch you regularly, but the Voltron thumbnail is what caught my eye and that's why I clicked because I thought it was a glitch and I'm a sucker for 80s robots. I've heard much of this in different ways from you and others, but this Voltron variation reminded me how easy this point is to make and how creative we can get with it. I might use some of this.
![Objective Morality vs. Christianity [William Lane Craig]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zXO26pObTZA/mqdefault.jpg)
I'm a polyatheist, there are millions of gods i don't believe in.
I'm stealing this word.
How about becoming an omniatheist? One that doesn't believe in all gods!
Zac Ziller fellow Reasonable Doubts listener I presume? :D
+Telhias
Rather a panatheist.
Zac Ziller Actually, as I'm sure you already know, the term atheist already covers disbelief in a god OR gods. :)
admit it, deep down you secretly know that you actually do collect stamps
MindLaboratory you don't, real eyes...that u r just "talking" 2 ur-self...now, youtu"e can hear what you're saying @thisverymoment.
MindLaboratory so true
nani
@iHost same here :D
Fuck I'm dead 😂😂😂
A fundamental difference between a belief in Voltron and a belief in Yahweh is that if enough people believed in Voltron and got proper funding they could conceivably create a "real" Voltron.
Wow.... that sound cool =w=
James Sweetman true
That's it, if we all band together and get this funded, we can make it happen!
Also in the future we could actually see a real voltron
Whats the kickstarter link
Ken Ham: "Atheism is a religion"
Bill Nye: "Ok fine! It is!"
Ken Ham: "Great! Now don't disrespect other religions! That's wrong!"
Bill Nye: "Just like you do towards other religions?"
He could've also said that he doesn't make fun of it just because it's a religion, but because of the ideas that it has. calling atheism a religion doesn't change bill's respect towards it.
Did this actually happen? If so, please link me it :D
@@timothybennett5427 idk I didnt watch it but theres a well know ken ham bill nye debate ua-cam.com/video/z6kgvhG3AkI/v-deo.html
I doubt it because all Christians disrespect other religions, that's what their religion is...
Almost 6 years on, I still link this all the time to theists that try to play the "why do they argue against God if they don't believe in him, unless they secretly do believe in him and are rebelling against him?". Kudos NSC; this video will likely still be referenced a decade after its release. :-)
Jaxson Bateman THAT, my friend, was the exact hope I had as I produced it.
Jaxson Bateman Now we just need a video on the obvious counterargument "If you truly believe in God why do you spend so much time arguing FOR him?" Doesn't his existence stand on it's own without your arguments? Didn't christ say something about being blessed when people persecute you in matt 5:11-12?
Maybe it makes more sense that you secretly DON'T believe in God, and that's why you spend so much energy railing against the non believers.
Sorry NSC if you already have this! I'm binging through your solid gold videos as we speak.
redrounin Think it's pretty obvious as it is, maybe you should make an obvious video that he does exist.............. non exists.
ALIEN_LIVES MATTER ?
redrounin Read numerous times to understand i'm not repeating it.
hey man i just want to let you know, 10 years ago i was a bible thumper and now im a proud skeptic which has led me to become a proud athiest. the fight youre fighting has won a battle with me, and therefore youre as a fact partially responsible for another athiest in the world and perhaps more if i have kids and if they have kids, as i will be teaching skepticism and critical thinking to them. im happier now that im an athiest, and im going to take the mantle and work to challenge people who havent yet implemented critical thinking yet in life. thank you for fighting this fight its meant the actual world to me.
I know you still secretly believe in me
@@JesusChrist-qi8yo The only way ill believe in a supernatural figure is by miracles. Jesus make it rain fire
Your kids are going to become preachers
@@covenantsoul8027 big if true lmao
Add one more battle you helped win with me.
Voltron if far greater than yahweh, zeus and the rest, as Voltron doesn't need believers to do his work, if he wants something done, he does it himself.
tahi laci cool
Amen.
He's the Defender of the Universe! Not just a tiny piece of land in the Levant.
I'm a Christian, and I agree that Christians shouldn't be using this argument.
+niizsn That's very good. Now I invite you to apply the same reasoning to my 50+ other videos. :)
+NonStampCollector First time commenting on youtube video. hope I am not doing it wrong! Just found your posts and surprised you're replying up till this point. I think You have very fine reasoning points and I appreciate that you are able to see the holes in "Christianity"
+niizsn "I agree that Christians shouldn't be using this argument." No, they should be using reasonable evidence, but they can't because there isn't any. This is why they jump to ridiculous garbage like this. My favorite piece of Christian 'logic' is 'You can't prove god does not exist, therefore he does!' Ha ha
thank you
i now respect you
again thank you
So tell them.
Your words don't fall on deaf theistic ears. I listened. Thank you
If you listened, do you agree?
@@gknight4719nope
Me : "Intresting video, I'm going to check the comments for Theristic responces"
*Checks comments*
"Hail voltron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
+Jye Woberts Right...not even one! Thought for sure there'd be at least one rant about how someone is going to hell for some reason or the other. Guess you can't fight against perfect logic.
HAIL VOLTRON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nagito wdym are you saying you dont also hail voltron???
Wow this is six years old and yet so relevant to today's world.
In the context of humanity or even a society six years are meaningless. Jesus Christ is more than 2000 years old and there's a lot of people that think they know him.
+thatdevilguy Will be relevant in a 100 years
+Valansch I hope not. :(
+Valansch until natural selection gets rid, like it put it in at the time cos thats the best they had for survival
+thatdevilguy jfc
I think the best comeback is "Why do christians deny the flying spaghetti monster? You must believe in him"
cheesus: damn it, they MUST believe, I've seen them enjoying him in restaurants! RA'men!
Jillian Smith XD RA'men 😂😂 i see what you did there
They'll just be offended you compare an "obviously fake god", to their "obviously real god".
The flying spaghetti monster DID exist. I ate him for lunch last week. Sorry.
Because its brand new, the name is retarded and you only hear it from people trying to mock theists. Why wouldn't they be annoyed by it? When youre attacking their beliefs that have been indoctrinated to believe since they were mere embryos in their mommas womb. Everybody gets offended when they're mocked bro no matter what irrelevant thing they believe. You would feel the same way too. Because you're a human fucken being lmao fuck I am bored right now. I always hated the spaghetti monster 👹 so I just needed to rant
Sorry stamp collector. But I WOULD vote for anyone who was planning to build giant voltrons in my city.
It IS a compelling policy platform. All these years later I acknowledge my mistake.
Together, we can overthrow all corrupt ideologies corrupting the world, and have Voltron rule over all!
@@NonStampCollectorcome back please 🙏
Voltron has a better theme song than Yahweh.
Anything is better than the ♫♪ "I'm going to torture all you skeptical fuckers" ♫♪ song. Let's not forget the ♪♫ "Genocide and conquest rape are fun!" ♪♫ song. That's a classic from way back.
EndlessVacuum what is yahweh’s theme song?
@@calvinhobbes3708 Inquiring minds *want* to know!
true that theme is way more dope than some gay church song , plus voltron is saving everyone without any discrimination of race or sex
This was an awesome video.
Although in nobody's defense, I think having a real-life Voltron would be a significant boost to our department of defense, no?
Voltron driven by the thundercats...Now that would boost the nation's defence.
we would never have to put another penny towards defense. threaten us and a giant indestructible robot descends from the sky and laser beams you're cities to pieces.
and if voltron were to fail( most likely wear and tear from all the carnage it would inflict upon our enemies.) We have the thundercats as pilots to continue the mission.
Maybe, but the "boosts" would go into the wrong things. There's a reason we don't make war machines that are shaped vaguely like bipedal animals.
I just hope the Geneva convention doesn't put a stop to it. Those guys are always ruining the fun. :(
As an Atheist, I do not care what people think or believe. What I do Care about is what people DO!!! This Point is summed up very well in another great video by NonStampCollector.
“You’re allowed to believe in a god. You’re allowed to believe unicorns live in your shoes for all I care. But the day you start telling me how to wear my shoes so I don’t upset the unicorns, I have a problem with you. The day you start involving the unicorns in making decisions for this country, I have a BIG problem with you.” - Matthew Schultz
You are a beautifully eloquent individual, and I'm proud to hang my atheistic flag alongside yours. You've earned yourself a new subscriber.
welcome, I am a new atheist. his arguments are solid
Welcome to the family, alrick.
I also had to subscribe. This man is an incredible philosopher. His points are so eloquently made and humorous to boot, and light hearted enough not to directly insult but to induce questions that religious people need to ask themselves. A++ UA-camr, would subscribe again.
stop trying to make atheism a group it's not and nor should it be we would be no better then the religious
Without being a group we have very little if any political clout. Without political clout, we have very little hope of effecting much change. Without effecting much change, then we slowly droon onward, while the religious, who ARE formed into politically powerful groups with money to burn, will continue to downgrade our science education, our civil rights, our laws, and continue their attempts to enslave us with ultimate punishments for thought crimes. So let's move toward groupdom...we cannot let the Church of Satan be the only official atheistic group out there...other than the Secular Humanists, the American Atheists, and all the other non-religious, somewhat anti-theistic, groups that already exist.
I’ve watched at least 20 videos, and at first I was thinking to myself “Yea but (insert the reason God did this)” but it was the Noah’s Ark videos that did it, thank you for opening my eyes. I’d say God bless you but... that doesn’t really work cause he’s not real. I still have a long ways to go, even as I type a little voice is like “Stop that! God will denounce you if you denounce him!” Thanks man
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Best of luck to you in your transition, Holden Wildeman :)
@@Arkloyd former catholic?
@@michaelnewman7248 Former baptist, but I heard that "blaspheming" the "holy spirit" was the surest way to piss off yahweh, the most evil character in all fiction.
@@Arkloyd how interesting. official catholic doctrine is that it's the only sin that won't be forgiven. an antibaptism of sorts. i didn't know other sects put the same weird emphasis on it
Sir, as a devout religious adherent, I must state that I am deeply offended by your defamation & denial of the one true god... All praise Skeletor!
As a firm advocate for the Church of the Five Lions, I confess that the lack of Voltron based laws and collective Voltron quoting in schools, is not for lack of trying on our part.
It's severely oppressive to us voltronists that every single law isn't about voltron, actually
I am so sick of religious nuts trying to control our society and telling me, a non Christian what I can and cannot do outside of their friggin churches. I am not an atheist. I am a pagan and a lesbian and proud of it, as you should be proud of your atheism. I love atheists. At least y'all have moral sense and stand for what is eight. Keep up the good videos man. :)
💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾Right on!!!
personally I only stand for what is seven
Very compelling, well articulated, arguments. Worth every second!
Principe Negrô
Yeah, I totally converted to Voltron-ism after listening to him describing what a Voltronist agenda would be.
Dude, NonStampCollector, I love you. I literally physically love you! You. Are. Awesome. (First yime I'm watching one of your very early videos). You're fucking awesome.
+Jean-Frédéric 'literally physical'...huh??? Even in text form this country has no grasp on the English language.
+Jean-Frédéric Rolland "This is what atheism does to society! It demolishes the solid moral standards established by the Bible! It is because of atheism that you have become... *cringe* ... homosexual."
Javier Castro Lol... What makes you believe that I'm an homosexual ? Don't you people know about hyperbole? No? How about critical thinking? Have you ever read the whole bible? I have. If I put to you some passages from that farce of a compilation, but told you it came from somewhere else (maybe the Coran) you would be disgusted and outraged. But because it's the stupid bible, you will excuse ANY desecration of human dignity in the name of a god who acts like a psychopathic 5 year old. Also, why did, you go "cringe" about gays? Do you spend a lot of time imagining the goings on in gay people's bedrooms? You really shouldn't do that. Myself, I REALLY DON'T want to think about what YOU do in YOUR bedroom... CRINGE!!
Javier Castro OH I GET IT!! You believe everything you read is real!! Well let me help you out... have you ever said anything along the lines of: I would kill for xyz? Then you're a murderer right? Ok... Now stop fantasizing about about grown men sucking each other off! It's getting kind of embarrassing, really!
Patrick Kilduff You should really read what you created with your grammar Nazism... Now jesus hates me!
The sad thing about this video is that It seems to apply even more to the current world than It did 8 years ago
No shit dude. Christopher Hitchens actually predicted the modern political environment
I have a personal relationship with Voltron
Make sure to confirm consent.
"You hate god so you think god is real!"
"Do you like darth vader?
"No"
"How can you not like darth vader if he isn'f real?"
As a born and raised Voltron believer this video really hit home for me
May Voltron be with you.
Patrick Randall sky guard you
In Voltron we trust
"Why are you arguing religion with me? Why do you feel the need to defend it? Simply, you must secretly have strong doubts. You're SECRETLY atheists!"
Nailed it.
Another brilliant video. Small, unnecessary correction: "with impunity" rather than "without impunity" at 6:55
Yeah I found that one out quickly. I thought I'd put an annotation? But yeah.
I've been touched by his stampy appendage
Jacob Stamm It's all sticky on the back.
Damn it… as one who has recently left the Christian cult I feel called out. 😳
cult even?
How can you not believe in Voltron; he and his mighty heraldic lions have just proved their existence by gracing us with a new season on Netflix made by the holy people at Studio Mir.
Blasphemy. Repent of your heathen sins lest ye be judged by Voltron's mighty blade and ion cannon!
Liar. Blasphemers. There is only one true God. Aquaman.
The evidence for the existence of Voltron is overwhelming! Just open your eyes & look at his glorious creation!
Question: Can we please lobby for Five massive lions to come together to make an all powerful fighting machine with a massive silver sword? I would honestly think it would be fucking awesome if the US military built giant voltrons don't lie that you wouldn't think it's bad ass if we had one. .
You and me both :D
XD Yes!
Sounds like a prequel script to Pacific Rim
I concur.
I think China has the patent for a Voltron fighting machine...just like they'll have the patents for Green energy generators while we Americans will be stuck with oil and coal...thanks to good Christians like Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell...
i wished these videos didn't have to be still just as relevant all of these years later
It's been 11 years but the world needs these blunt videos today
10 years later, this is still a great message.
I don't know if I'll ever stop being a theist, but your videos have taught me more about critical thinking than all my years in a church. Genuinely thankful to have found your channel.
I wish you the best of luck.
May i ask you why you're a theist? And if you're going to answer, please tell me which god. I genuinely want to know
@@d_camara I grew up going to a Christian (Baptist) church. That kinda answers both questions. I first started believing in God because I was taught to by my church and a few family members (only my mom and grandparents are Christian).
I'm down to talk about why I'm still a theist after this past year of questioning everything I've been taught about God and the Bible.
To be fair; I would totally get behind building giant robots.....
I live in a fairly religious area in the southern US and even I have never heard anyone use this “you really do believe” argument. It’s…painfully stupid.
In the name of the Black, Red, Green, Yellow and Blue Lions, GoLion. Our Voltron who art in Altea, hollow be thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Altea. And give us this day our fault bread, and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not to the Galra but deliver us from Zarkon. GoLion.
Jordan Peterson actually used this foolish argument with Sam Harris and Matt Dillahunty, and they both demolished Peterson's vacuous and ridiculous theory. It was glorious to watch.
I truly don't understand the appeal of Jordan Peterson. My very religious family practically worships the guy as some kind of ideological giant, but, quite plainly, outside of his professional field of psychology, the guy is a fucking idiot. I've heard it put that he's the dumb person's smart man, and I think a more apt description would be hard to find.
I understand the comparison but I would totally want my tax dollars going towards an awesome Voltron statue
This is the best articulated argument I've come across on this issue. Thanks NonStampCollector
This is NOT falling solely on deaf ears. 14 years ago, I wasn't ready for this line of thinking. NOW, I am. Your pithy conveyance of sound reasoning is helping me with my own quest for truth. Thank you so much for recording this. Better late than never for some of us. 😊
If I may say so myself, even as early as 2008 I could see that some of the UA-cam videos that people were making were going to stand through time, and others were going to be dated and irrelevant very quickly. I decided that I'd try to make things with a longer shelf life. To this day I sometimes thank the gods for having given me that insight in my earliest weeks of making videos.
Theists secretly believe in Evolution.
Voltron’s show was cancelled for our sins
I'm lost for words. Well done and greetings from Ireland where people are still in the grip of the church. I have shared all your videos with my family.
It's now 2022 and I have only just discovered this channel. I have now whatched about 20 of your videos. My new favourite UA-cam channel. Absolutely excellent. Thank you
I was with you until you bashed us believers of Skeletor.
wait wait wait... Let's not gloss over the important part of this video. Now, what exactly do we have to do to secure that public money to construct five giant metal lions?
GOD I LOVE HOW OUT SPOKEN YOU ARE!!!! I’ve said it before, but I always wonder why we have to approach critiquing religion with “sensitivity “ when their beliefs harm people and promote barbaric violence. I’m writing a story that critiques religion, mainly Christianity, and people keep telling me to be “sensitive “ or “careful “ or to be sure to point out the good sides of religion. WHY?!?
Wow. It is amazing when someone clearly states facts in an organized fashion. I thank Voltron for your video.
No, Flying Spaghetti Monster is real and there is no way you can convince me other wise, he came to me in a dream and helped me find my car keys this morning
So, are you suggesting that atheists secretly believe in Yahweh?
I should make a video about that. If I did, would you watch it before commenting on it? I just want to make sure it would be worth my bother...
Stumbled on your first video a bit ago, and haven't been able to stop watching them. This one is the best one so far.
Let me be the first to welcome our Voltron overlords.
This is so important especially today with the Israel-Palestine conflict
"Activate Interlocks! Form feet and legs! Form arms and body! And, I'll form the head!"
All glory to Voltron!
Amen.
I love the scathing nature of this video while being very well articulated! Big fan of your videos. Keep being awesome
Just found this channel... I love it! ❤ Thank you for putting some sanity into this debate. I really hope you make more videos.
Already almost a decade after it's release, and I'm still here
Brilliant video - stands the test of time.
The Flying Spaghetti Monster created Voltron with His Noodley Appendages.
That is all.
Ramen!
Sean Phoenix and who created the flying guy? Spoiler alert...it was the cosmic muffin
Ramen!
Anyone who doesn't believe, prove it! Prove the flying Spaghetti Monster didn't create Voltron!
Ramen!
Voltron's mum was a VIRGIN!! Boned senseless and knocked up by His Almighty Noodleness!! (Parmesan Be Upon Him)
@@BigJayKaner And the sauce of all his power is Paul Newman's Own!
Why would atheists single out Jehovah to secretly believe in instead of some more appealing god like Thor or Zeus or Ganesh?
+ajs1031 omg im using this xD
Well, we're not refuting Thorists, nor would I dare after what +asj1031 pointed out :p Besides Ganesh opened interdimensional portals at Cern and made conspiracy theorists forget what their favorite breakfast was called in the 1980's. Those are gods to be reckoned with. Jahwe and Allah only make empty threats and hollow promises. Sure, they burnt cities and drowned millions, but they lost all of their power. I think He-Man might have something to do with that...
ajs1031
Lol damn, I didn't think of Dolph Lundrgen until you brought him up, but now that you did I'm not sure.which :p
Because he "loves" us...
And by 'love' I mean 'imposes theocracy on'
@ajs1031 wouldn't that be a Nordic Pagan?
Unless you only believe in Thor.
There were people who believed in multiple gods but only worshipped one, though.
love this video, its the best. Just imagine if all country starts taxing this business so called religion, we might solve most of the issues we are facing today. Imaging those money being invested in science especially in medicine and research on cure for diseases. We could have turned this place into heaven, unfortunately this dream is never going to become reality.
I agree on all points (no, I'm not a theist) except,....
I think a real, true to scale, working Voltron would be pretty damn cool.
From a practical standpoint, I'm thinking of the advances in material sciences and other technologies involved, and would have no issue paying for it by, say, terminating the F-35 program, the M1-A1 Abhram tank program and doing with two less aircraft carriers.
you are definitely one of the best atheist channels out there.
'Morality is doing right, no matter what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, no matter what is right.' H.L Mencken.
I agree with everything you said... except for the He Man/Skeletor assertion. How dare you!
Ikr! If he-man doesn't exist, where does raw, untamed masculinity and online memes come from?
I usually bring up the same explanation, but with Sauron instead of Voltron.
Yet instead of thinking about it for a second or even listening properly, most apologists just angrily claim that their god is real and nothing like Sauron.
It's similar bringing up the Flying Spaghetti Monster. A lot of theists just dismiss it out of hand as a straw man without refuting the analogy properly.
Ramen!
Thats a bad example, Because Sauron is real... :p lmao jk
Correct response: if you say that Sauron isn't real, then that proves that you secretly believe in Sauron! You just admitted that you think Sauron is real!
Use their own arguments against them. ;)
Dude, please make more videos. This shit is so good
NonStampCollector, you made my Saturday night. Big props to you for your argument, or weak cheese for my idea of the weekend? Anyway, subscribed. Now I'd better see more VOLTRON references...
NSC: What if the government allocated funds to build a real Voltron?
Japan (Ten years later): Hold my sake.
You, my friend, are the greatest modern philosopher I know. Technically, there is no longer any need for philosophy since science has left it in the dust. However, so many people choose not to believe in science and philosophy is needed to turn them toward a realistic and scientific world view. I cite your videos to everyone I know who is in need of a reality check. Thank you for taking such time to make these videos. Your satire skill rank is jedi.
I disagree with you. Science is the sum and pursuit of knowledge, but philosophy at it's core is the question of how best to apply, or not apply, that knowledge to things.
I don't think you know what philosophy is. You realize science can be qualified as a type of philosophy.
This video needs to be shared.
absolutely brilliant demonstration! keep up the good work :D
I had to pause the video toward the end there, because I was with you on the Voltron and God thing but... Look here sir, He-Man is real! And there’s nothing you can say to change my mind, heretic. Lol
NYEH!
Thanks Mr Stamp my beliefs have changed I now firmly believe in Voltron all shall bow to Voltron .. hail Voltron like Jesus but not as gay
Now that's a religion l could live with.....
All hail voltron!
defender of the universe
perveyor of Ramen.
Just finished my midnight prayers to our Lord and Savior Voltron.
ah great, say a few for me as well... wait, how do you pray: "Our Voltron who hath in cosmos, hallow be thy name..."right
hey Voltronism does not sound such a bad idea! At least it's relatively harmless compared to the abrahamic religions!
If you took a holy book and replaced every instance of whatever deity’s name with voltron it probably wouldn’t change anything
I am a voltronist and I am deeply offended by lack of respect towards my faith.
Dude, I love your videos. Thank you for making them.
fucking love you man,
You just changed my mind.... Fuck non-theism I'm a voltronist now.
Same! Fuck you Ever other god Voltron is the 5 true gods that can turn into 1 god.
I love how Sarah Palin shows up during the Voltron segement...LOL I wish you would do some more vids, these are instant CLASSICS! I'd especially love to see a series taking on all the major apologetics currently in vogue on the youtubes. Great stuff!
Christian *closes ears after 31 seconds*
Vultron isn't real?
2:50
Yeah, you kinda screwed yourself with that one.
I'm fervently supporting publicly-funded giant mechs.
Conjecture: To win a debate with a creationist you must offer bait -- a weak argument. Otherwise they will just ignore it. Then slowly corner them letting them think they are winning, giving them lots of rope to say truly stupid things. This argument was too strong.
The illustration of the snake reading the book was very cute! ^_^
Thank you for what you do
I am a Christian and accept other people have a right to believe in other Gods and none.
+MrChristainchris Do you believe that those who accept this right to believe in no gods, and thus don't believe in one, deserve eternal punishment for it?
NonStampCollector I think you make a good point, I am not sure the punishment does last for ever, I need to do some research on this question.
+MrChristainchris Matthew 25:46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.” Part of parable, out of context you may say.
Jude 13
[These people are] wild waves of the sea, casting up the foam of their own shame; wandering stars, for whom the gloom of utter darkness has been reserved forever.
MrChristainchris Well, see what your "research" shows up about what Jesus meant by "eternal" in: “And these will depart into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life”, as recorded in Matthew 25:46.
Perhaps by "eternal" He meant "not-eternal". How would one know? Hmmmm; mystery, that.
NonStampCollector I think sometimes the words may have been mistranlted from the Hebrew and Greek. But leave it with me to find out.
Join the Order of Voltron today.
Almost 11 years later... excellent arguments, NonStampCollector! The only small problem I have is that I have yet, in +65 years of life, to see a picture of an actual, living ostrich "sticking its head in the sand." Talk about cartoons! (Note that Disney started the myth that lemmings commit mass suicides, too.) As ostriches have strong legs and a wicked kick, and of course can run fast if they so desire, it is highly likely they will stand and fight and their enemy will retire from the battle field with severe injuries. So while I know why you used those drawings, they don't help your argument really.... Other than that, you're doing a great job!
GUYS I PROVED THE EXISTENCE OF POWER RANGERS
1. EITHER THE POWER RANGERS ARE REAL OR VOLTRON IS REAL
2. VOLTRON IS NOT REAL
3. THE POWER RANGERS ARE REAL!1!!!!!!!!!!11!11!1!1!!11!111!!!!
Damn. My eyes have been opened to the truth
you genius, anyone who doesnt know this obvious truth kills kids, evil monsters, anyway, wanna kill kids
Also, its fun to make fun of christianity, and it makes for a great youtube channel.
I totally support this claim
We don’t argue against the existence of voltron
Because nobody has ever seriously suggested that we base our entire system of keeping track of when things happened around if things happened before or after the creation of voltron
Already watch you regularly, but the Voltron thumbnail is what caught my eye and that's why I clicked because I thought it was a glitch and I'm a sucker for 80s robots. I've heard much of this in different ways from you and others, but this Voltron variation reminded me how easy this point is to make and how creative we can get with it. I might use some of this.
bUt MY rELigIoN iS dIfFeReNt fRoM oThErS