This is Dr. Ellie and I would like to thank you for making his video. My system was developed by trial and error - not assessing studies - in the 1970s and now there have been five decades using power point presentations in pre-natal clinics, libraries, hotel ballrooms, in small groups for oncologists, nurses, at hygienist conferences, and independent pharmacies - for zero financial reward - at a time when I could have been filling and restoring teeth - instead of teaching people how to avoid dental problems. I have tried to run studies on my system - but have had zero interest from Universities, dental insurance companies or any other outlet - which is why there are no studies on my system at this point. Also, this system is the only way I KNOW to get people out of trouble - the one way that works. I specialized in both pediatric and geriatric dental fields - so I have a wider vision of dentistry than many. Senior dental spending in the United States shows the appalling outcome of following other methods. Thanks again.
Dr. Ellie in the virtual flesh, nice to meet you! It really is a shame that there hasn't been any eagerness from the dental industry to do studies on your oral health approach. Like I mentioned throughout the video, I do think that you found something that worked well and have been using your unorthodox knowledge to help people solve their oral hygiene woes. I think the trial and error method with individuals experimenting on their own is where a lot of the great discoveries occur. When people get results, it doesn't matter what the studies say because you have found a solution that solves your problems. As time goes by and more people try solutions like Xylitol, the dental industry will eventually have to face the music and implement other unorthodox ways of maintaining good oral hygiene that might be superior to their current methods. Cheers :D
@@MasterEverydayLiving I think it important to mention the Human Microbiome Project of 2007. We discovered for the first time over 700 kinds of bacteria found in a healthy mouth. There are just a handful of harmful bacteria - a few that create plaque and a specific group of a dozen or so opportunistic ones that are involved in harmful periodontal disease. My book Mouth Care Comes Clean explains this balance between oral bacteria. Some oral bacteria are floating in saliva (planktonic) and others woven into biofilm that covers the entire interior surface of our body - including the mouth, teeth, and gums. Xylitol plays an important part in making this healthy. Most people are comfortable with healthy gut bacteria - and now it is time for a new understanding in the mouth. Below is a 2019 study - and more is now understood about the mouth's GOOD bacteria: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6503789/
I do like this video as I was wondering the same as this smart chap, and as well I do like your videos. I am going to invest on your carece system and try if my gums regrow, I will give me one year target. As well using coconut oil because my daughter has cavities and one tooth that have a concussion and I am not sure what will happens. I convinced if using chewing gums with xilitol for me and my daughter along the day. She is so happy with it! And I will let you know if this methods works for me. Thank you very much for your consistent study and advice. I live in UK.
I do like this video as I was wondering the same as this smart chap, and as well I do like your videos. I am going to invest on your carece system and try if my gums regrow, I will give me one year target. As well using coconut oil because my daughter has cavities and one tooth that have a concussion and I am not sure what will happens. I convinced if using chewing gums with xilitol for me and my daughter along the day. She is so happy with it! And I will let you know if this methods works for me. Thank you very much for your consistent study and advice. I live in UK.
just tried those products and they seem right and cheaper than periodontal surgery - 800£, so I’m happy came across her video and you can pay in instalments so I’m sure it’s worth it 😜🦷🤞
I am a senior woman who is currently using Dr. Ellie's system and it works. I see remarkable progress just as she states. All the products are like 60 bucks combined at my local CVS. Not expensive compared to conventional dental costs. When I see new tissue growing around my teeth and the gaps filling up I believe it. Dentists will charge hundreds of dollars for grafts that don't always work. I have learned that several tissues/organs, such as the liver, in the human body can regenerate. The gum tissue is one even though the dental, medical establishment will deny this at every turn.
I’ve been using the system for about 3 weeks. In the first week, almost all of the tartar on my teeth was gone, and the black triangle gaps were very noticeable. I had a lot of food getting stuck in my teeth. Now, the gaps are smaller and filling in with gum tissue. Food isn’t getting stuck in my teeth as much. Teeth are even smoother than first week, and no noticeable tartar.
@@carolallen Thanks. About a month with a lot of discipline! My gums are almost as they were when I was younger. The larger dark triangles are just about filled in the smaller ones are completely closed.
I found Dr. Ellie's video by chance on UA-cam and decided to give it a try. It works amazingly well. Ive been on a 4 month cleaning schedule for years because I used to build up lots of plaque, regardless of diligent cleaning and flossing. Not anymore. Never bought a product from Dr. E., only from drugstores and Amazon. Her full program is also available for free on UA-cam, so never needed to buy the book. Thank you, Dr. Ellie.
I would rather spend 500 a year on her system than pay and dentist a few thousand to fix things on and on - I been doing her system for a year and my teeth are great
I learned of Dr ellie via UA-cam... No cost involved. Products are supermarket products.. Yes I have to pay more as they are American products and more expensive in New Zealand but still very affordable. Xylitol is age old, we know it in Northern Europe for eons. You can buy xylitol crystals no need for zellies... The products she uses make sense, it's logic and works for me. I still Floss once or twice a week but hardly anything there to floss anymore. Her system works for people who sip and snack around the clock (which I don't do anymore) which is most of us. She is not saying my way or no way.. She's saying this way works as it is proven to work for 40 years.
I will attest to her method. My children reversed their cavities. She has saved my family so much money on dental fillings. our,dentist now promotes her after our experiences
@@macaccount4315 but you cannot do that. You cannot reverse deep deep cavities whom are already eating the inside of the tooth If it reversed anything that means you caught the cavities early enough for it to work, which means you fixed precavities which is also a really good thing :) but remember never let cavities go on untreated thinking I'll just do this and they'll always go away
@@macaccount4315 but you cannot do that. You cannot reverse deep deep cavities whom are already eating the inside of the tooth If it reversed anything that means you caught the cavities early enough for it to work, which means you fixed precavities which is also a really good thing :) but remember never let cavities go on untreated thinking I'll just do this and they'll always go away
Been using Dr. Ellie's protocol for 5 months and am getting amazing results now. The first few months, I didn't see any improvement. Just started noticing drastic improvements over the last month or so. I find the protocol to be very accessible as far as cost and product availability. Also, all of the information you need is clearly spelled out in her videos for free, step by step. If you've been frustrated with dental care, as I had been, this is worth a shot. Do give it a good 6 months to see if you like the results, though. As I said, I saw no improvement for the first several months.
Seriously, please do more research. It MIGHT cost $500 in total for the year, but not to start. Also, she DOESNT get any kickbacks from these companies. That’s a very bold, albeit wrong, statement to make.
She's not helping the companies really because they are pushing the latest product whereas she prefers products that are actually more basic. I mean they are probably happy for some business but their big profits are from the latest big claim products. But there we are.
You use the word unorthodox. I would say non traditional. There are many “traditional” practices in healthcare that are being shown not to be the best. Re the listerine germ kill. She explains that it works on the bad bacteria and promotes the good bacteria. And she tells about the STUDIES on how it compares to flossing. I bought all of her product recommendations over the counter. I did not buy any books or courses, just watched free UA-cams. I decided to try her xylitol gum. I really prefer it to the pur. It’s worth it to me. I’m glad she makes available a product that is pleasant to use. I private pay for all my dental care. So what I spend on these products is less than I would pay for the dental care they are minimizing. Thank you Dr Ellie. So glad I found you on UA-cam. After one week, the tartar on the back of my lower front teeth came off.
She has videos showing the complete routine on UA-cam it’s not behind the pay wall. Most of the products are at Walmart. Only her mints and gum are on her website or Amazon. They are 13.99 on her site and 14.99 on Amazon. You must have bought those on Amazon from a third party seller that jacked up the price.
Read the label more closely at 10:09. Dr. Ellie made a video recently where she touched on exactly the point you’re trying to make. Listerine specifically targets the germs THAT CAUSE bad breath, etc. Other mouth washes don’t make that same claim and are more of a free-for-all, killing both bad and good bacteria. And Dr. Ellie recommends only the specific Original and Cool Mint varieties. Other variants have a different formula and are not recommended. Also, her entire system is listed for FREE on her website and is displayed and discussed prominently in her videos on UA-cam and TikTok. She does sell a kit for those who want to purchase the products directly from her, and she has Amazon affiliate links on her website, but she also encourages people to just buy the products on their own from a grocery store. Finally, there are several components (and yes, three of them are rinses), but the system is carefully crafted in a specific order to get your mouth to the right state in which it’s safe to brush (that’s what the xylitol and Closys do) before switching to the Listerine and Act to fulfill their purposes. For example, Listerine is one of the only proven rinses to take the place of flossing (they used to market this fact).
@@erheaflower4318 I have been looking at ingredients in what she recommends and was thinking that same thing. What's the difference between that, since alcohol kills germs indiscriminately, and hydrogen peroxide in mouthwashes used to whiten teeth, which aren't to be used because it kills the good bacteria too.
@@erheaflower4318 no alcohol does not kill all bacteria, but listerine will kill the plaque and it will dissolve the tartar and you can easily brush it away
@@erheaflower4318I used to think that too but the healthy oral flora comes from your saliva so you do replenish if Listerine actually removes the "good" ( whatever that is..) bacteria. I actually find my mouth to have saliva now even after my sleep which used to be bone dry ! I am surprise about that because I didn't expect that at all. Because of what is said about removing good bacteria too, I don't used Listerine for decades. Such a shame that I didn't use it during all these years. Sorry if it does not work on your mouth.
Thanks for this breakdown. I had pretty poor gum health and significant bone loss from poor dental hygiene, 100% my fault, many nights I'd be so burned out and exhausted I'd just end up falling asleep without brushing. I know. Gross. I would do a great job in the morning cleaning up though, but time plus acidic saliva overnight did its damage. I've stopped the bad habits as of a couple months ago. I started by using her system as recommended, but started noticing tooth staining. For over a decade prior, I was using Auromere fresh mint toothpaste, with no issues with staining. I traced the new staining down to use of fluoride. With that said, aside from the staining, using Closys, listerine, and xylitol, my gums and oral health made the craziest rapid improvement. Inflamed gums to pink healthy gums in literally like 2 weeks. I've tweaked her protocol to eliminate the fluoride due to staining, and thankfully, I've gotten rid of the stains, caught it early enough. For me, I've got it dialed in now. My routine: brush tongue first with a tiny dab of toothpaste, and rinse with water. Then do the Closys, then brush gums followed by teeth. I use 50/50 Auromere fresh mint and Tom's kid's fluoride free strawberry toothpaste. Reason for Auromere is the herbs, reason for Tom's is the SLS (basically soap). The Crest she recommends is SLS-based, and I noticed it did do a little better job cleaning than the Auromere toothpaste alone, that I had previously used. I do floss but I don't floss into my gums anymore. Follow with Listerine original mouthwash, followed by a xylitol glycerine containing mouthwash after. In the morning I use Spry xylitol peppermint, at night, I use Auromere mouthwash. 2x a day Listerine dries out the mouth a bit I feel, so the Auromere mouthwash, which is glycerine and no alcohol, I like to think of as lotion for my mouth. Spry has glycerine too, and a low amount of alcohol. Anyway, this tweaked version of her system is the best thing I've ever done for my mouth. My oral hygiene is on a whole other planet now. Hope this helps someone out there.
I really appreciate the detailed breakdown and how you have modified the routine so that it works for you. Keep it uuppp!! It's amazing how addictive a healthy mouth and squeaky clean teeth are once you understand how to maintain it and know that it is all within your power to do so. Cheers :D
OMGosh. You’re very sweet, but you need to put more research into this topic before posting a video. First of all, you aren’t required to buy any of Dr Ellie’s educational materials. She explains her whole mouth care system on UA-cam & TikTok for FREE. Secondly, you don’t have to buy (from her) any of the products she promotes. Everything is available in local stores and/or Amazon, which she encourages users to take advantage of. So, you don’t need to give her a cut on any of the purchases you make. Furthermore, you don’t even have to buy her Zellie gums or mints. There are other xylitol products available in local stores, including the Canadian product PÜR gum/mints. I'm sorry to say, but your "research" is riddled with misinformation and inaccuracies.
@@jamiexxjamie that’s the definition of conflict of interest. It doesn’t matter if you don’t “have” to buy from her, the fact that you can is enough to disqualify anything she says at face value. Someone selling a health insurance scam is incentivized to lie to you even though you could just get scammed by someone else. If you want to do the research yourself and come to a similar conclusion that’s fine. There’s a reason actual scientific papers have to explicitly detail any conflicts of interest they may have.
@@Mygary are you profiting off of linking me a bottle of water? Can I buy another brand of water or only the specific item you linked? If you truly just wanted me to drink water it wouldn’t matter what water brand I bought.
Precisely! I'm surprised the creator hasn't pinned one of the comments noting this, or better yet written their own comment noting their mistakes and pinning it so anyone that comes to the video knows that. Leaves me with a rather diminished view of the creator and their other content now.
Cost breakdown: $500/yr = $41.67/mo = $1.37/day -or- $0.69/twice daily. People waste much more money than that everyday on goofy and dumb stuff they don't need; subscriptions, tobacco, alcohol & drug habits, fancy coffee shops, etc. It sounds more likely that the people whining about the costs of this system, or trying anything new that may be beneficial, don't have their priorities straight and have very poor impulse control.
I support her because she says to not floss and I HATE flossing! Her system makes teeth feel more cleaner then flossing. Floss is terrible for the environment and sea creatures
I hate regular flossing too and regular floss has questionable ingredients including teflon. There is natural silk floss as an alternative(will naturally decompose), or water flossing which I prefer.
Seriously, are you high? You support here primarily because she is also against something you HATE? Thats about the stupidest thing one could say in public, and out right prove ones ignorance. And then to double-down on some outlandish claim about floss being terrible for the environment and sea creatures??? LOL, floss is made of nylon/teflon and maybe some wax. It degrades in under 80 years, which is decades or centuries sooner than many plastics and other man-made products. Crazy people are attracted to other crazy people...
she says not to floss in general but go ahead if you have some food stuck, which is why you should floss sometimes if needed, not for plaque but stuck food particles. I have tight teeth gaps and constantly getting food stuck so floss regularly to get it out but not due to plaque, flossing is super easy with floss picks by plackers twin line
I can't afford the Complete Mouth Care System but I have learnt a lot watching her videos. I bought her Xylitol gums. When that ran out I bought a one kilo bag of Xylitol crystals. It's so much cheaper. I put a little bit in my mouth after drinking or eating. After a meal, I use water flosser followed by baking soda in water solution mouth rinse to make my mouth alkaline and kill bad bacteria. After I spit out the baking soda solution, I place Xylitol crystals in my mouth. Set the timer for one hour. Then brush my teeth. After brushing my teeth I place a little bit of Xylitol crystals in my mouth again. I have no more bad breath and my teeth are not sensitive anymore. I improvise and it works for me because I have learnt a lot from Dr Ellis.
i don't get how people are saying it's expensive. Definity not $500 as this video claims. It actually cost $37 per month per person to get the following products that Dr Ellie recommended. Of course it will be more it you order her kit. She does say you can get all of these at your local drug stores 32 oz bottle of closys ultra sensitive rinse (should last 1 month)11.38 Crest original five 8 0z tubes (should last at least 6 months) 14.99 (2.50 per month) 50 oz Cool mint listerine (should last 2 months) 7.99 (3.99 month) Act mint zero alcohol fluoride rinse pack of four, (should last 2 months) 21.99 (10.99 per month) large bag of zellie xylitol mints 540 mints (should last 3.5 months) 28.50 (8.14 per month)
Appreciate the detailed breakdown with the costs that you are able to get the products with in the US. I think your numbers still support my estimate, if buying everything in bulk leads to $37USD /month, that is $444 USD per year. Add on sales tax depending on your state and you are pretty close to $500 USD. Now I live in Canada so the prices I have in the video are Canadian dollars ($37 USD = $50 CDN) so that is $600 year if I got it at the prices you have. But sadly enough imported US goods are more expensive so a 540 bag of Zellies would be around $65 CDN (which is $47USD). That is around a 60% increase in price. All the other oral hygiene products also follow the same approximate increase in price like a 32oz Closys bottle is $23 CDN = $16 USD. Let's not forget the HST tax, which would add 13%. So adding a conservative 60% increase to your overall cost breakdown, it would be around $59 USD/month to get the same bulk products you listed here in Canada making my video estimate actually undershoot it. $700 USD / $950 CDN per year would be the real price to get those products here in Canada. But that is sadly not the case for everyone because some people in the comment section don't even have access to the products (like in Australia) and they would have to pay an exorbitant amount for these products. So I would say it is expensive, of course not the same as getting dental care from a clinic but expensive nonetheless.
@@MasterEverydayLiving Buy from Australia, add packing & handling + shipping + large family. Gollygeewilakas not economical for the average Ausie family. 🦘🦘😒😒
Buy from Australia, add packing & handling + shipping + curancy exchange +large family. Gollygeewilakas not economical for the average Ausie family. 🦘🦘😒😒
So, I recently watched some of her videos and decided to give it a try. The only way I knew how was through a particular video that explains the process of the system and gives enough info to understand how to do it without buying anything. Which is on her utube. I only bought 2 items on Amazon and not through the links. The other 2 rinses I bought at the local store. Pretty cheap. And I don’t get Zellies. I use plain xylitol or a brand called “pur” that can be found at a better price. I’m 3 weeks in and havnt been as militant as I could be but I’m sure If I started this earlier my teeth would be better off. But I have hope and I can see a difference for sure. When I do it every 12 hrs I wake with no morning breath (colloidal silver has done this in the past but nothing else to that extent !) ... so anyhow just givin my story ! If my small cavities heal at all i will let u know !! 🤞🏼
Do totally let let us know how it ends up going and if you manage to get those cavities under control and how it goes for ya in a few weeks! Good luck with your oral hygiene journey :D
I think both your and her videos are helpful for anyone who is looking for good oral health solution without lifelong visits to dentists. Thanks to both of you for sharing such amazing information all of which adds value in their own way.
I would only disagree that Ellie’s system doesn’t have a paywall. I have been using her system since January. I got all the details from watching her free UA-cam content. I would have to say for the most part my oral hygiene has improved. But I am Using Invisalign and I am getting lots of staining around the anchor points for the trays that are attached to my teeth. It’s unpleasant to say the least. I don’t feel her system is helping with that. But the front teeth where I normally have staining from coffee are looking much whiter and brighter, which I do appreciate. I did start oil pulling this past week based on some of your content. I am hoping that process helps with the staining issue I am having from the Invisalign anchor points. We will see how it feels after about 1 month.
Ok sorry about the disagreement above, I see you made amendments to your position on this. But also see I should explain more about my experience and need for Ellie’s system. My attempt was also related to gum recession. I had been flossing and using the sonicare toothbrush twice daily. With this system I did achieve a reduction in overall sensitivity in my teeth to cold temperature drinks. I now can enjoy ice in my water. Yay! However the gum recession did creep in. That is where I started Ellie’s system. So now it has been about 4-5 months on her system. I am happy to report the recession feels better. However when I go into orthodontist office for a check in or small procedure related to my Invisalign, I incur damage again to my gums and get a spot where the recession becomes worse and increases my sensitivity to food and brushing again. And like I said in my first comment I am getting the unsightly staining which isn’t being helped my Ellie’s system on my anchor points. So that is the back story to the current time. Overall, I believe if I didn’t have the invisilign, Ellie’s system would be wonderful. And overall it’s slightly less time than oil pulling.
Really appreciate your experience that you shared, having something like an Invisilign for sure throws a curveball in ones oral health routine. Glad that you are having success with the system and even though it might not fix the staining, the cosmetic part of it is imo more of a secondary oral health win if it managed to do so. The big tough decision would be to cut out coffee and see how that would impact the staining. Now with that said, coffee is delish and sometimes one has to make a sacrifice for the things we love. Cheers!
My stains seems go off faster when i start adding essential oils to carrier oil for pulling. And i saw many different types of oil pulling products on Amazon, etc. with essential oils and other things.
Dr Ellie has a yt video addressing teeth stains. Take a bit of crushed xylitol and mix it with some toothpaste. Use this mixture to brush your teeth in the am.
Hi Paul, let me start by saying that I like your style as I have said before. This video in particular concerns me in a VERY personal way since I’m one of the hundreds of people who have had great improvement in their oral health just by following Dr. Ellie’s recommendations. I didn’t have to enroll in her boot camp, order any of her kits from Amazon or buy any of her books. She includes a FREE copy of her booklet when you subscribe to her FREE newsletter and you can get ALlL the products she recommends from your local pharmacy ( except the xylitol) which Doesn’t have to be her mints, as you tried a different kind for your video on xylitol use. Yes, she is VERY adamant about using those products in the way she recommends because they work as a system. Maybe it’s a generational issue where the younger ones need to see lots of data supporting the claims and on the other hand the older people rely more on the results they get by trying the approach suggested. That’s what matters to me, knowing that my teeth and gums are getting better each day. As per the money that one has to spend buying the products ( from my local pharmacy) I see that as an investment, NOT an expense.
Appreciate the comment and I totally stand corrected, in the email I got it does have a link at the top that redirects you to a free guide so my bad on that. I'll pin a post with that! I did try the Zellies mints and gum in another video (quick summary, it's a better tasting and longer lasting gum than Pur but the Xylitol effects were the same for me for a much lower cost) before this video and think that your approach is more aligned with what I am trying to advocate for, of people needing to experiment on their own and find what works for them. Glad that you have had really good results lts with her system. If I may ask, how long have you been following it for, how was your oral health before you began and have you modified the routine since you began? Yet again, appreciate the comment! I can only get so far looking into it from a non-user that is happy with their own oral health and think a lot of people will benefit from hearing perspectives from people who have tried Dr. Ellie's system!
Hello again Paul. First of all let me tell you that I like you even more now because you had the honesty to correct your statement in a humble manner and that says a lot about you. To answer your question I will start by saying that it’s been 6 weeks since I started following Dr. Ellie’s protocol and I saw a significant improvement by the second week. My teeth looked whiter and felt harder/ stronger. I was brushing my teeth 3x/day and flossing before bed religiously for years, and every time I went to the dentist they said that my gums keep receding and I would have to have cleanings every 4 months instead of twice a year. NO other solutions were offered to me. Well, long story short I came across a video from Dr. Ellie and here I am 6 weeks after, starting to see improvement in my gums appearance( pinkier color) and less sensitivity. I’m 61 years young 😊therefore my teeth have gone through a lot of damage due to misinformation and myths but I have managed to keep my original teeth which I’m very grateful for. Give yourself some time to understand the logic behind her claims and you will see why hundreds of people have been helped by it. You are too young to experience firsthand what older ones have with their teeth, but I’m hoping that you know someone who can benefit from this protocol. Thank you once again and keep up the good work.
One would think that it would be normal to concede and correct one's self when we find something wrong in our approach but the internet has taught me that not everyone thinks this way... Awesome that you have had such great results from her system after 6 weeks. When you find something that works, keep doing it!! Would love to hear another quick comment update in a month or so if that is not too much to ask 😅 In my opinion like I mentioned in the video, I still believe that her system works. It especially works for people with dire oral hygiene needs. I just might not be one of those people. Throughout my experiments, even using Xylitol products 5 times a day would be too much for my mouth as I found my tongue to get sensitive just from 2-3 times per day or if I chewed the gum for too long. Those 2-3 chewing sessions per day were enough for me to see and feel positive oral health results. I tried the a Listerine mouthwash in the past and it was too abrasive for my mouth. With all that said, I really think that comments like yours are more efficient in convincing people to try and take care of their teeth because it is such a frustrating thing to be following everything that experts recommend without any improvements to ones oral health. I was in a similar position following the norms recommended by dentists and having bad oral health up until my 30's. I then went deep into trying to figure out why it was so bad for myself and that journey has made me realize that many of us are really lost when it comes to maintaining our oral hygiene. Having open and honest conversations like this is a great way to shed a bit more light on the topic. Cheers!
Her system was extremely cheap and the booklet with the steps I think was like under 5 bucks? And then every product you need you can get at the grocery store for super cheap or order the set for a little cheaper even from her and it comes in a box delivered to your door. I got 4 toothbrushes with the antibacterial silver , her box of the products needed that should last super long, lots of gum/mints for maybe $100? Yeah I have pictures . I was LOSING a huge patch of enamel on my two front teeth. 1 week in right now and it’s completely filled in. every day all day my teeth feel clean , no plaque
I do oil pulling, xylitol and regular brushing without fluoride. That's good enough for now, but a lot of people have followed her advice and seemed to have improved their gums and teeth. It's very confusing her Listerine. Fluoride and ACT promotion for me, all those products have been rejected by so many natural Drs etc.
Dr Ellie explains her reasoning re Florida and dyes in the mouth washes in a video explaining her mouth care routine. A recent update. It made sense to me.
$500 IS COMPLETELY FALSE! I just started. I don't have a lot of money so, although I downloaded Dr Ellie's - FREE - booklet of Dr. Ellie's Complete System, using her UA-cam link as a guide of what to buy, I went to Amazon and purchased the items. I only didn't use her Amazon links because it offered multiple tubes of toothpaste & mouthwash whereas I purchased single tubes & single bottles of the mouthwashes/rinses. Even if I had bought the quantities she had in her Amazon links, it still would not have totaled $500.
I disagree to parts of this video as some of his findings are incorrect. You do not have to purchase Dr. Ellie’s books to learn about the step by step system. I went onto her website, gave my email address and was sent the instructions FREE. I did purchase the mouthwashes from my local drug store and have been following the routine for 6 months and the change in my oral health has been miraculous - just 6 months! Xylitol can easily be purchased at your local drug store so you don’t have to buy via her website if you don’t want to. I have been going to a dentist for over 40 years, had many expensive dental procedures, spent thousands of dollars on my teeth and NEVER had them be as healthy & strong, excellent gum health as they are right now following this dental system for just 6 months. When I went to show my dentist, he looked sheepishly and kinda admitted that they don’t want people to know how easy & effective it is to have good oral health as it’s not good for business. Dr Ellie should be commended for the truth & wisdom she is freely offering to people.
In advanced, sorry for the long comment. I'm just curious and love to offer my perspective and rebuttle. I like how curious you are about this because i was too. I still take a lot of what she says with caution. I still floss and use my tongue scraper and have still seen pretty positive results on her routine. All her stuff is free on videos BTW. You don't need the books or the website stuff. Buy all the products at your local walmart, target, etc which is the only reason I even gave this a shot. I believe she uses a lot simple terminology to help people understand the basics but I do wish she would talk about which bacteria in particular are being eliminated. Probably ones that cause cavities haha. I wish she would push less for selling her products but since she isn't doing regular dentistry, I suppose she has to get money through her mints which is cool but I don't understand the purpose of her course or why sell books that tell you the same things she gives for free. She also says she "believes," because you're right, there aren't any studies on her method, which sucks, but I suppose people who try it are the only ones who can say. If the dentistry world weren't such a huge corporate monster, I'd agree that this is overkill and it sort of is, but it is also prevention and healing. There is too much sugar in regular foods now a days that it's hard to not have cavities by such a young age. I've also noticed people think they're a lot more healthy than they really are. People can have underlying issues that are never addressed by dentists until you have to shell out money which is sad. She has also mentioned that women struggle more with oral care due to hormones so I think women would benefit from a routine like this. Besides the system she sells on her page, she says you can buy them anywhere and most are fairly cheap. Buying the in store would have no benefit to her. You can also by xylitol mints anywhere as long as they don't have sugar. Maybe not many people would do this and keep buying her kit but I just went to the store haha. Regardless, some rich person is getting my money from these products. I agree that you may not need the whole thing but it might be tough to see why it is failing and blame it on her. If anything, people should do the xylitol and clo-sys because the part of getting your mouth to the right PH before brushing makes sense. Her toothpaste rec is so cheap that I don't mind doing that either. I was on the fence about her mouthwashes because listerine is awful. Anyway, great video. Hopefully she gets funding for her stuff and we can maybe see if her methods are real or just hopeful based off the patients she's had in the past. Although, I will say that in the UK, they don't push flossing as much as here in the US and they have pretty good oral care, albeit not as pretty as everyone in the US. They focus a lot on being healthy vs aesthetics.
No worries about the long write-up, love seeing other people's perspective on it. One thing that a new user would have a hard time navigating is all the content that Dr. Ellie has. So even though all her content is free, as a person who knows about her YT channel, blog and website and have looked through it all, they are very fragmented with knowledge sprinkled around that you need to hunt down to begin her routine. The two place that I am aware of where her full routine with cohesive steps can be found is in her books/her kit. I agree to most of what you are saying and there really is a lack of studies looking into things like this. It's a shame because I feel like so many people (including you and me) have experienced the benefits but can't really put the exact science down to back it up. I personally think it's not that important to know how things work (like how many of us drive cars but don't know how the engine works) but it would be a vital step towards mass adoption if that ever was on the Dr. Ellie's system blueprint horizon! Cheers :D
Paul thank you for your comments. For me to buy Dr. Ellie's whole system it would cost me a lot for shipping, so even though I bought some of the items online locally, I have been feeling guilty about not purchasing the whole system. I am an older woman with very bad teeth. I did buy products and even mouthwash that had xylitol in them after watching her videos. I've been using the Crest toothpaste, the Listerine mouthwash, and gum and candies whose first ingredient is xylitol. After two weeks I was already able to bite down on my left side that was giving me extreme pain. I have also been made aware of my teeth and no longer just go through the motions. I'm paying attention, and my teeth do look brighter. I see that she did answer you, and I will probably break down and buy her system. If I never have anothet root canal or tooth implant, I will consider it money well spent. I think then I would label her a "Saint Doctor"!
I am writing from Australia and most of the products recommended by Ellie cost quite a bit. Eg 3 bottles of closys costs me about A$100 and last about 3 to 4 months. Crest and ACT must be ordered and shipped from the USA. I had written and asked Dr Ellie on one of Dr Ellie's video whether Closys could be replaced with ozonated water since closys allowed you to brush straight away after eating and kills the bad and good bacteria in the mouth. Ozonated water enable you to kill the bacteria and to save cost, I am willing to brush my teeth more than 30 minutes after eating...using ozonated water from biosure ozonated tumbler which is more sustainable. There was no response and even my reply to one fellow australian on where I source the products were deleted..not once but all the time ! I began to have my suspicions that someone is not happy for me to be giving some ideas.
I’m from Australia & did find Dr Ellie helpful but could only find Listerine nothing else from her extensive product list but am able to make saliva & be aware of eating more than 3 times A day & keeping my mouth in A constance acidic state. Buying into her system posted to Australia A step too far. Dr Ellie dose come across as mainly A sales person with her product to push. Dr Ellie not quite as open sourced & helpful as others on UA-cam, 🦘🦘
@@laurenduggan1127 NOT her fault at all. You can get her products shipped to Australia like any other item on line. I know this. My point being for me & maybe others with very large blended or not family on A lower social economic rung of the society ladder is the cost. Was saying I learned something helpful from her but I see mainly sale pitch, nothing wrong with that either. I was concurring with gentleman in the video Thier are folk happily sharing information in A more charitable way. Keep smiling & flashing those pearly whites & stay cosmic.😃😃🦘🦘
I'm also appalled that Crest toothpaste is $29 in Australia. Surely there would be other ones available here that are similar? Could Dr Ellie look into whats available down under and advise?
Today I bought all the items except the xylitol for $49, which included two bottles of Listerine and two tubes toothpaste. I’m thinking what I purchased today should last more than a month. The two boxes of toothpaste should last more than six months. If the liquid items only last a month, then I can see the cost being about $35 per month including the xylitol. That is costly, but I’m giving up on my dentist because all he wants to do is deep clean my teeth (2 hours) and pull teeth. I’m done with that. No more. My teeth haven’t bled or hurt for over twenty years. I don’t need them pulled. I’m going to try Philip’s system because what she recommends makes more sense than what my dentist tells me. He has never recommended the items she explains. He should of at least recommended the Listerine. I don’t think flossing works that well, and if you’re not addressing the bad germs in the mouth and teeth, then the flossing won’t do much good.
Great video and solid breakdown the drEllie was groundbreaking at bringing awareness to mouth health and xylotil,your info is awesome as well its all about options thanks.
I totally agree with ya that it is all about spreading awareness that one has the power to fix their oral hygiene and that there are many options out there that one could try in order to do so. Appreciate the comment, cheers!
You seem to imply having watched "all" her videos, she is aggressively promoting her kit and products as a money maker, hinting grift. My experience is she is all to clear that she put her kit together as a service to those who may have difficulties accessing the products. I in no way share your assessment, and in fact put her at saint status. Im on my one year anniversary of useing the system and at 63 and a former smoker my mouth is vastly improved. All the kit items i am able to buy my supermarket and if im feeling extra miserly, I can save $5 on the 4 items at Wal-Mart.
I am starting Dr. Ellie's system yesterday. I have gum disease. I purchased the products at Walmart and Amazon for about $50. I am using the Xylitol granules vs mints or gum. Her videos explain the how to use the products. So, I will not initial buy her book or class. It seems like one of her books is $7 in kindle format. I am anxious to give the system a try. I did notice the products seem to work together because she suggest not rinsing your mouth between products. I make my own yogurt with no sugar added. If I have any tooth or gum pain eating this yogurt while swooshing it around my teeth and gums eliminates any pain or discomfort. I am on a low carb diet trying to avoid any sugar. I eat homemade yogurt almost daily and might start making kefir again for more good bacteria. So maybe in a month or two, I might try experimenting by not using the Listerine or just using it once in awhile. I hope there will not be bad bacteria in my mouth,
One thing I like is she says use the system and keep your appointment with your usual dentist. So there is a collaborative approach between patient and dentist. For me I like the idea of using Xylitol and will try this. I do floss between my front teeth which are very close together. But I do not floss below or to the gum line. I've started tongue scraping. Seems a good idea. She has interesting thoughts about the role of saliva in combating plaque and in remineralising teeth. Her perspective is this can be damaged by continual drinking and eating between meals. Xylitol after food then leaving a gap is a good idea as is leaving tooth brushes to dry. Intuitively I have been focusing on brushing the gums. Apart from anything if you brush your gums then apart from massaging them you spread the foam of the toithepaste around the mouth. If her system works, which part is it that works? She has valuable insights across the range of things, including how you eat and drink. Not in her system but I typically eat dark chocolate and drink black tea. There's some evidence that these, along with cheese, which she does mention, can contribute to improved teeth and plaque. So. If your mouth is in fairly good shape then you only need to add one or two ideas of hers for an improvement. If your miuth is in terrible shape her system might be worth a try. And could be cheaper in the end. Ultimately we are in partnership with our dentist to result in good teeth and gums. If you're doing OK now, then adding Xylitol, recognising that your saliva is doing most of the work and massage gums is likely beneficial. Don't snack between meals is what we were told as children for good reason. That along with Xylitol after meals can be the biggest changes to oral health. Dentist says "you're doing a great job". Great.
PS Dr Ellie's system is open source in that apart from Zellies it's all identified and commonly available products. In many cases she's going for the cheaper products, albeit in a systematic approach. No secret ingredients, no special formulations.
I had gum troubles for years. Earlier this year I had some tooth and gum pain. When I eat my homemade yogurt with no sugar added, and move the yogurt around my gums the pain vanished. What are you thoughts?
I listened to her long podcast 2x. I get xyletol gum and mints from a local health store. I bought the other products from a grocery store. Her system works ok so far, for me.
After watching Dr Ellie I realised every dentist I have ever used and in multiple countries ALL had fillings and crowns etc. Look at the dentist who has teeth like you would want and then use their system. Willing to give it a try and its only week 2
Hi! In a recent video of hers, someone commented about how toxic flouride is. They asked her why she promotes a toothpaste with flouride. She turned the comments off. What is your take on flouride? I cannot see a dentist as I am housebound, and I had an experimental operation that has left me only able to open my mouth 4 centimetres. So no hygienist can work on me. What toothpaste would you recommend? Thank you in advance for your time. ❤
Sounds like a tough situation that you are in with being housebound and that operation, hope things take a turn for the better. As for my take on fluoride, I haven't had a bad experience with it. Always got it after a cleaning session in the past. I believe the Canadian tap water that I drink also contains fluoride so I personally think that in small doses, its probably fine. It's not something I would incorporate into my routine through a fluoride product but being exposed to it occasionally or in extremely low doses probably isn't as harmful as some people say it is. As for toothpaste recommendations, I don't really have any as I usually get what's on sale... Now with that said, I am doing an experiment where I am not brushing my teeth (so no toothpaste either) and its currently been a week and my teeth feel great. The reason I am mentioning this is because I believe that it's just not one product that fixes everything but more of a lifestyle tweak that can create lasting change. So doing things like rinsing your mouth after each meal of fizzy drink throughout the day. Staying hydrated to prevent dry mouth. Eating as healthy as possible to limit the amount of bacteria in your mouth. Using products like Xylitol after meals to prevent bacteria from sticking to your teeth. Oil pulling in the morning as a baseline to reset my mouth. It's a bit more of a radical and obscure approach to oral hygiene but I think that is often times needed when the normal methods of care don't work. I have personally found success with both Xylitol and Oil Pulling but know that it might not be for everyone. Good luck with your oral health journey, hopefully you can figure out a routine that works for your mouth!
@@MasterEverydayLiving Thanks for taking the time to reply. I will get the Xylitol gum. Very interested about what you are doing, apart from oil pulling to clean your teeth. I guess that will be in a future video. I have already subscribed, so hopefully you will share soon. Thank you for your kind words, much appreciated 👍
@@Katatawnic I believe she is being sponsored. I live in England, and all the Dentists only have Colgate to sell and advertise. On our TV commercials it says 9 out of 10 Dentists use it. It's been that way since I was a child, and I'm 57. I think if you really believe flouride is good, then she should say so. Also the overuse of mouth washes is concerning, seeing as they have alcohol which is very drying on the mouth. I am no expert, but the lack of openess is concerning. ❤️
@@jacquelineteale4937 I'm positive that a lot of these "influencers" are sponsored. You're supposed to disclose this, but many don't. It's deceptive. When they push particular products instead of certain kinds of products, I get suspicious. Especially when they sell expensive kits. I always get the generic brands whenever the ingredients are the same or comparable enough. I don't care about brand names; I care about results. I also agree with what Paul said about her "my way or the highway" attitude, for all the reasons he listed. Different people have different problems for different reasons, so there is no blanket cure. I do love my cool mint Listerine, but I use it before brushing in the morning. Some people think I'm weird for doing it this way, but while I like the germ killing factor, I don't like the strong taste or dryness to linger. I also have an extremely sensitive gag reflex, so using the antiseptic before brushing gets rid of morning breath, and then when I brush my tongue I don't gag so much. There's a method to my madness! But I absolutely agree about the use of so much mouthwash being concerning. It's overkill, and I can see how it could cause a problem. The rebound effect could cause an overproduction of bacteria; just like taking antibiotics can kill too much yeast in the body, which often leads to yeast infections. I just don't implicitly trust her. Something about her rubs me the wrong way. I prefer people like Paul, who are nuanced and are willing to discuss differences of opinion. I feel he's being honest with us and with himself. I don't get that vibe from her.
Sir, your conclusions are incomplete. I have been using her system (all free information) for about a year….and she hasn’t received one penny of profit from my product purchases. As far as I can tell she gives full disclosure for free. So regarding your conclusions, I have to ask: “COMPARED TO WHAT”? The dental profession wouldn’t be what it is if there were not enough people with oral health problems….the percentage of population doesn’t matter. Only people with problems are looking for answers….and obviously there are plenty….even enough to make it worthwhile for UA-cam channel review videos. What does that tell you about the effectiveness of the information the industry provides for free? ALL kids getting cavities (I was one) and their parents need this information. The free information offered by the industry guidelines is not working for many and clearly has not worked for decades. They have taught us this same information since (1950s?) grammar school and continue to do so. It is not from sugar. The bottom line of her message is that THESE PROBLEMS ARE MOSTLY THE RESULTS OF INADEQUATE ABATEMENT OF BACTERIAL INFECTION. The industry refuses to offer information to the public that effectively addresses this. Do you think the industry does not know this is the real issue? When did any other dentist enlighten you to a potential system that could possibly eliminate or drastically reduce the need to see oral health specialists? This is a system that worked for her and her mother. It’s working for hundred or thousands of others. She’s more than qualified to share the results, method and products. She’s been doing so for decades and challenging the status quo. Don’t you question why there’s no embrace from the industry or at least an interest in testing it? Hopefully that day will come, but some of us need to take action now to at least try it. I have not seen miracles from following her system. But the sensitivity and gum bleeding has improved immensely. I wish I found her information ten years ago. I wish this was taught when I was in grammar school along with the brushing and flossing. I brushed and flossed religiously, but problems still manifested as I got older. The worst problems were from the teeth with fillings.
I have been using Dr. Ellie's system for a couple of months without spending much money at all. I have had great results, no more inflammation of my gums in a certain area of my mouth, my teeth are the cleanest they have ever been, actually they are 'shiney'.I only wish I had known about this oral care routine years ago. It would have saved me thousands! I am 73.. Next time I see my dentist, I will educate him him a little, and ask his evaluation, not an invasion scraping of my teeth. They don't need it!
We follow Dr. Ellie's system to a 'T.' Dr. Ellie offered us a kit, but she also reminded us that we could buy all of the recommended items from local shops and online stores, which is what we have done. The total cost for us is about $250/year: $125 for my hubby, and $125 for me. These prices also include 100% xylitol gum and granulated xylitol, both of which we use every day. Learning to use the system was as simple as watching an hour-long UA-cam video by Dr. Ellie herself. We found her book, "kiss your dentist goodbye," in the local library. So much for your thoughts on "Dr. Ellie Phillips." Suggest you watch the previously-mentioned one-hour UA-cam, which you obviously have not.
I already brush my teeth, so swishing 2 times after ( and take out the flossing) is not much & swishing is more pleasant than flossing to me. I still floss gently if something is in between. The system may not be for many ..YET. One can wait til their oral health is poor and then start. That's their choice. It's like being healthy..you don't have to eat healthy .. until you do. Rinsing also kept my teeth after-a-dentist-visit smooth even months later. I am getting better results from her system than my decades of brushing/flossing .
I like how Dr Ellie responded to you in a diplomatic way and with complete honesty. Three folks below commented in a way I agree with with in these three points. 1) You did not explain your $500 comments and you spun it in a way that I felt was clearly misinformed or dishonest. 2) She does mention her research into studies and her videos are backed by studies. Of course one can always find some study to conflict and create confusion. But I would say her clinical results and those of many of her colleagues is substantial! 3) You made two other misleading comments which are addressed below by other folks who have paid for her $50 system of teaching which is well worth it!! I would hope you would consider editing your video of these three mis-information topics. With sincerity I say this.
I did a deep dive on Paul's "deep dive on@dr.elliephillips" called "Which is the best way and how to reverse your cavities" on Substack, and left the link yesterday here and he deleted the comment. I hope Paul can't only give criticism, but take it!
$500?!?! I spent closer to $25 to begin the system. I also found another brand of xylitol mints on Amazon that seem the same but are not cheaper. It’s helped me soooo much with receding gums.
I have mostly converted to Xylitol crystals over gums and mints, one of the big benefits is that it is a much cheaper alternative. Here is a video where I talk about that! ua-cam.com/video/ym7uq6mSyxM/v-deo.html&ab_channel=MasterEverydayLiving
I think she is a polarising figure and pretty rigid in her POV. Many Westerners (and people from all over influenced by Western medicine) tend to believe in finding the ‘perfect’ system for oral health. Can branded OTC toothpaste and mouthwashes keep you healthy? Sure. They can also have many unperceived side effects over the long-term because we simply don’t understand enough about each complex chemical that goes into their composition and even how they are sourced and treated that can lead to adverse outcomes. But many traditional/ ancient cultures have observational medicines and techniques that are far older and have been followed for thousands of years. These tend to be herbal with comparatively lower scope of side effects unless you abuse them. I find Dr. Ellie’s experience useful but I also take it with a pinch of salt because she is a representative of a system of medicine that is far younger and not as well understood as it claims to be. I will use toothpaste with xylitol, but I will also maintain herbal/ ayurvedic remedies such as bi-annual weeks of oil pulling and chewing clove and fennel daily that not only help you with bad breath and oral pain but help in digestion too.
I heard of oil pulling and other people talking about it at a seminar at a health food store. Aren't the oils used in oil pulling too acidic for the teeth and gums, which was the cause of gum and teeth problems in the first place? I think Dr. Ellie does not condone or promote oil pulling.
Hey I can see the response is pretty strong, I do watch your videos but there are things I do agree with. Such as the over use of mouthwash, (which like you say will mess with your bacteria for sure) never using floss. I’m In the middle I don’t think it’s needed everyday but not that it should not be used. and a big one I kinda disagree with is the talking against dental cleanings. -although I do agree maybe getting them very often is over doing, I think it should be done, there’s nothing like a good dental cleaning
One point he makes is that you have to buy her complete system from her for $98 and it will cost you $500/mouth. False!! She points out that you can buy the products, which she clearly shows in her website or videos, from any pharmacy or Target. I did exactly that and my cost was under $20. I’ve been following her free videos for instructions for about a month. Awesome! I wish I had known about Dr Ellie 70 years ago because traditional American Dental Association recommendations, which I followed religiously for my whole life, has led to cavities, extraction, implants, root canals and major expense! She is great!
The only thing I see different is the extra mouthwash closys and the zelly's but there's a lot of studies on Xylitol. Other than that everybody still buys toothpaste and still buys mouthwash and needs to change their toothbrushes and sometimes they're told to do the act at night so I don't see a difference in the regular routine everyone's taught except for those two extra expenses
I just started watching a few of her videos a few weeks ago, then came across yours. I don't think you were fair to her. There is one video that was the second video I watched, and it was over an hour long, and covered her "complete mouthcare system." So you don't have to pay. I believe she names the bad bacteria (strep something?) and she also covers the fact that listerine doesn't kill all bacteria. I have not heard an explanation on why the alcohol doesn't kill it all, but the claim from listerine seems to be in line with her claim - it kills the bad breath bacteria and plaque bacteria. But what prompted me to comment is your clip of her saying if you don't follow the system you should get a cleaning. She's not saying ONLY her way will work... that's backwards logic (affirming the consequent fallacy). She's just saying you don't need to get a dental cleaning if you have good mouth-health, and her point is, if you follow what she says you definitely WILL be in that category, so she can confidently say everyone following her system don't need cleanings. You seem to agree with her because you say it's a bit extreme/overkill. But she is not claiming that other systems don't work, or even that there are other systems that could avoid dental cleanings. Maybe there's more to the context that you cut, but I've never seen her trash on other systems. Unless the other system is don't take care of your teeth, let your dentist take care of them every 6 months. But we all agree that's trash.
She has done the research dude. She gives you the process and the names of the products she recommends. You do not have to buy anything from Amazon if you don’t want to. It can all be purchased at Walmart or Target and she doesn’t get a kickback. The books are additional information that you do not need to start her dental system. Her utube videos are free and very informative. I have purchased all the products she recommended and I may have spent $20. I didn’t buy her xylitol mints, I purchased a less expensive brand. So far her system is easy and has definitely made o difference in my teeth in one week. You have gone down the wrong rabbit hole and your assessment of her is definitely flawed and without merit.
Paul, Can you send me a link where I can buy your Xylitol please. I plan to try dr Ellie Philips too if I can buy her Xylitol separately but if you send me a link, I can get started.
I cannot give you any links because it would be different for every country. I would recommend getting your hands on Xylitol Crystals instead of the gum. You can get it in any health store as it is a sugar substitute. It is what I currently use on a daily basis. It is cheaper and imo as good if not better than gums. I talk about it more over here: ua-cam.com/video/ym7uq6mSyxM/v-deo.html
When you say it’s a sugar substitute, can you confirm that it’s not an artificial sweetener like aspartame or any other artificial sweetener as they are bad.
Xylitol is a natural sweetener that is derived from corn and birch trees. It being a "natural" sweetener doesn't make it healthy for you either, since over consumption of it has shown to be bad for you too. So if you use it for oral hygiene purposes (and not consumption), then you should be fine. Of course like any new thing, tread carefully and monitor to see how/if your body reacts to it.
I do love your videos, you have had a very holistic approach to Dr. Elli's methods and I love there are people like you, thinking like me. But for people like me with nearly 50 years old, a daughter of 6 and a lot of problems with the carbohydrates,I am going to use her methods to check if it works with my gums. Thank you for your meticulous and sensitive analysis of her videos.
Appreciate the comment and it's never too late to begin a new routine to improve one's life. Good luck with your own experiments. Do let us know how it goes if you feel like it, cheers :D
Can anyone give me advice?i dont know if i should pay for her online boothcamp,or if i could buy the products and try them by watching her youtube videos....i dont have enough money Also,what she doesnt mention is that a big big part of the re-mineralization process,which happens with the help of our saliva - means out gut health needs to be good,our vitamin D needs to be good,because our sliva gets these minerals from our bloodstream,and our teeth are made out of bones,so its important to have enough nutrients that build bones (calcium,and other),vitamin D plays a key in absorbing these into the body,and if you have gut issues that might cause your body to not be able to absorb these.
A good balanced review. Personally, I don't like that she pushed sponsored fluoride-based Colgate toothpaste and Listerine alcohol-based mouthwashes. I'm on board with the idea that xylitol can help. I recommend reading "Cure tooth decay" by Ramiel Nagel, who takes on a holistic approach to oral health. He also has some UA-cam videos. Unfortunately, he died in 2017 of a rare brain stem tumor.
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This was an excellent review. I just discovered your channel today when I was looking into xylitol. I like your approach to be as informative and honest as you can. It's greatly appreciated. I'm looking forward to more videos from you in the future. Have a wonderful night!
I watched a presentation that stated that studies are very unreliable . Just saying . Another done by Paul Smaldino also says the peer reviewers would need to read 300 pages and other points to consider regarding studies
Please share the degree of the studies you cite/ reference. A study can be 5 people of 5000. It can be high or low quality. It can be financed by biased interests. It is considered poor reporting/ journalism to not include these types of information.
A quick update with the Paywalling Knowledge section. In the signup email, there IS a link to a PDF that explains the process in detail (You can see the link if you pause the video at 4:03). So you can still learn about the system without spending money (just at the low cost of your email deets!).
Very poor review with little understanding of her method. Either the biochemistry of the mouth and analysis is correct or not. Why do you think most dentists recommend ACT, closys and flouride toothpaste? Her system is more thorough and based on many years of experience. She has no incentive to make money. My wife and I have been on the system for over 6 months and the results are amazing. It does not cost $500.00!!! Spend $20 at walmart and you have enough for 3 or more months. What do you think a cleaning costs? $150.00; special mouth washes and toothpaste? Anyone reading this who doubts can spend an hour watching Dr. Ellie on youTube. She is an amazing dentist who cares for her patients! I live in Chapel Hill NC, home of one of the top dental schools in the world. Master of Everyday Living is a joke.
I just have to poke some holes in this comment because it just makes me chuckle on so many levels... - Most dentists recommend ACT, Closys and Flouride toothpaste? They might be recommended by the ADA but they aren't recommended by every dentist. These are things that Dr. Ellie found that worked well with her patients and there is a reason why her system with Xylitol and a rigid set of products is having success over what most dentists recommend. - She has no incentive to make money? When a core part of your system is Xylitol gum and mints and you make and promote a product (Zellie's) for those purposes, you are now a business and have an incentive to grow and promote that business. Making money is OKAY, there is nothing wrong with that but saying that there are no incentives is just ignorant. - I would love to see how you are following her system for $20 for 3 months when the Xylitol gums on their own exceed that price for 3 months. Feel free to do a cost breakdown and prove me wrong. I also want to mention that not everyone lives in the US so getting hands on these products are even harder/more expensive in other countries. A detailed breakdown was done in another comment with US pricing. 32 oz bottle of closys ultra sensitive rinse (should last 1 month)11.38 Crest original five 8 0z tubes (should last at least 6 months) 14.99 (2.50 per month) 50 oz Cool mint listerine (should last 2 months) 7.99 (3.99 month) Act mint zero alcohol fluoride rinse pack of four, (should last 2 months) 21.99 (10.99 per month) large bag of zellie xylitol mints 540 mints (should last 3.5 months) 28.50 (8.14 per month) = ~$37USD /month (or $444 USD / year) if you buy everything at these prices. I live in Canada so the same products will cost me $950 CDN / $700 USD / year. - Comparing it to expensive cleaning costs does not change the fact that it is around $500 / year / person to follow her specific system. - Great, you live close to some top dental schools, what does that add to the conversation? I live in Toronto close to a really great pizza place, does that make my thought on pizza any more valuable? Also, Dr Ellie and her system is going AGAINST the grain of traditional dentistry recommendations so your random location flex is moot. - One can care for ones patients, be a good dentist and also have all the pointers above be true. No need to virtue signal. At the end of the day, you can attack me with petty words and be ignorant to reality but any rational person can look up things for themselves (which I hope people will do).
good evaluation and very informative. Thanks a lot Paul. Oil pulling and xylitol seems good started with these again. I wonder if xylitol gum is the best way to mineralise enamel or if other ways with oils and minerals powder is something...
Your own saliva is how xylitol helps to mineralize teeth - just have the xylitol and then wait 1-2 hours for this stimulated saliva to mineralize your teeth.
I have to disagree with your assessment of her system. It is not expensive as going to the dentist for bone grafts and laser treatments. I much prefer to do this simple routine to improve my dental health.
I think maybe part of her deal is that if you even do half of what she recommends you're still going to be ahead of the game. The way she does tell you that it's your fault kind of reminds me of AA. 😆
This is Ellie and I am adamant ...why? because using the strategies in the specific way is the only way I know that you will overcome dental issues. If I knew of a simpler way that worked - of course, I would suggest it.
I'm curious if you have any background in science? I'm asking because: A. there were quite a few misleading claims in this video about Dr. Ellie (which others have already pointed out), and B. the studies you used to debunk her claims were taken by you as gospel without any attempt to look at how the studies were conducted. People who watch TV a lot probably also lead sedentary lives and are couch potatoes, that does not mean that watching TV causes people to gain weight, no matter how many studies show correlation between the two. Dr. Ellie's claim is that the state of your biofilm and the pH of your saliva are two things that have direct link to your oral health, so addressing your oral health will have to take care of those first and foremost. This does not imply that co-relation does not exist between people's brushing habits (in terms of force, duration, etc) and other aspects of their oral hygiene such that people who have shit brushing habits might also have overall shit oral hygiene and therefore are prone to all kinds of oral distress. Co-relation between those brushing habits and oral distress does not debunk her claims. This is not saying her claim could not still be debunked, but you have not done the debunking. I watched this video because I'm considering starting her routine (without having paid, or requiring to pay a penny to her) and wanted to get a more well-rounded view of her from other people i.e. I was specifically looking for criticism to inform my view and yet what a disappointment this inept, rather ignorant critique was.
Hi Paul! I really appreciate the time and effort to give an unbiased, personal, end user opinion. I've been watching Dr. Ellie's system and also your posts on oil pulling and xylitol for several months and decided to try Dr. Ellie's protocol. After 2 months my teeth felt and looked great! HOWEVER, I started to get multiple canker sores. I have had them on and off all my life and I have found that, yes there are times that stress can bring them on but generally, I can usually pinpoint it to certain foods or oral supplements that have additives. It could possibly be in connection with stomach acids and or allergies. I am always looking for alternatives to sugar because of weight and diabetes. I found that I actually like Stevia more than sugar. But not all Stevia is pure. Most of the commercial brands have Erythritol. By process of elimination I found out that pure stevia works fine but I break out with any Erythritol. Well same thing happened with the Xylitol. I even wrote Dr. Ellie asking for an alternative. I received a reply that I am most probably not doing the protocol correctly. I was asked for a photo of my routine products and never got another reply. I also found out that studies have shown both Xylitol and Erythritol are good for oral health with Erythritol coming out ahead of Xylitol even. The bad news is that they have been known to trigger canker sores in people who have that inherited trait. Oh well. 😢. I am also predisposed to gum disease by heredity on both sides of my family. Im 62 and have pockets often now and had to get a bone graft. Diabetes and weight issues as well. I also have an issue with the listerine not making any sense. Yes I do grind my teeth and actually broke one and yes i was told I brush too hard and used to stop using the sonicare toothbrush a while ago. So while there is definitely something positive to the usage of Xylitol for most people, I cant use Erythritol and/or Xylitol, or several other sugar alcohols ( both are sugar alcohols) because of other adverse reactions😔
I appreciate you sharing your experience and it's too bad that you are getting canker sores from it. Something that I have been doing that has lessened the intensity of the Erythritol where I still think I get the benefits from it is to add it to my oil pulling session. That gives me none of the bad side-effects that I had trying Erythritol on its own. Perhaps this could be something you try with Xylitol. Add some Xylitol to coconut/sesame seed oil, then swish it around for a few minutes following by spitting it out into the green/organics bin (since excess oil might clog up water pipes). Keep exploring and finding what works for you. There really is no silver bullet to one's individual oral hygiene issues. Good luck!
I appreciate your research but I disagree with your overall score for her, because In her case "the good" far outweighs "the bad", and she's clearly not motivated by financial gains. I've learned her complete system on UA-cam, for free.
I have been trying to find an email for Dr Ellie Phillips, but so far I have not been successfull. I want send her an article recently posted on CityNews, June 11,2024. This article reveals information about a study conducted at The Center for Cardiovascular Diagnostic and Prevention at the Cleveland Clinic, which linked Xylitol to an increase chance of heart attacks and strokes. I woud like to hear Dr Phillips opinion about tnis recent study.
I would also like to hear her opinion. On the face of it my opinion is that the finding seems a bit odd in that xylitol has been around so long and used in baking,which is gonna give you a high dose. Her 7 gram a day suggestion seems miniscule compared to eating a xylitol cake. Anyway, I find it hard to believe a link had never been investigated till now.
The study was not about dietary intake of xylitol. It looked at levels in the blood after a fasted state. Your body naturally produces xylitol. The study was NOT about 10 grams of xylitol a day from gum or mints. The study focused on really high levels of xylitol being used as a sugar substitute.
Hundreds of ways to achieve good dental health! Yep her system! it’s pushed like a religion , people overthink things. How about keeping your mouth clean like most of the time like with that stuff called H2O and then probably most important thing is nutrition, but her system is probably very good for people that have neglected their teeth for a long time
I don’t understand your point about Dr Ellie promoting other products?? That makes no sense. She has a unique system, that deviates from the norm, that’s the whole point?! Why would she promote other systems? Hmmm
Very well said!! I tried her routine for a short while, and with some research discovered there are serious problems with the products she recommends. For example, mouthwash can cause high blood pressure. I hope you’ll eventually do a video on nano hydroxyapatite.
One thing that really does concern me about her system is her preaching against flossing. Many who have bad oral health did not floss and regular flossing might help mitigate if not fix some of the problems. The reasons she gives for not flossing are not of a higher benefit than the risk of avoiding flossing. As a dentist she should know better on that one. Since many of the people trying her system are in desperate need, and therefore vulnerable, it is all the more dangerous since they are more likely to take that anti-flossing approach seriously. The second concern I have is that the ACT fluoride mouthwash she recommends says on the bottle to do once daily. She recommends twice daily. Those instructions on the bottle are sometimes for safety reasons, and so she should be clarifying why she is recommending more than the company itself and why it is not a danger to do so. Because if something happens, the mouthwash company can simply say that the person did not follow the instructions - the cause of most over-the-counter medication problems.
USian, more cavities than average as I was a stubborn little guy... I've got moderate gum erosion and min/mod gingavitis with most pockets around 2, with several 3-4s on all quads. Once I started flossing regularly a year or two ago, it was clear from the charting/recording they do measuring gum pocket depth that all of them were starting to lessen and were mostly cluster around 2 with only a couple 3's. Thats actual proof that the flossing was helping reduce my gingavitis, and oral health was significantly improving. I was using a water pik also, which seemed to work as well as flossing just easier. If I'd known about Xylitol at the time I'd have added it, but I was already adding a bit of listerine or chlorhexidine. The Dr. is making bank off her own products, and getting some sort of commission from the other products she is endorsing. Not a problem per se, however her paywalling sure does bely any expression of 'wanting to help people'. Seems like just another marketing scheme using an actual Dr. as spokeswoman vs some As Seen On TV spokesman of old.
@@boots7859 I haven't been hampered by her "pay wall" as mentioned in this guy's video. I purchase all the products either from Walmart or drug store and Amazon for very cheap. Dr Ellie has a lengthy video on UA-cam about how to use her mouth care system. Additionally, one can download and print a paper telling what to use and when and how off the Google internet. So, his facts aren't completely not factual. Also, if you want to purchase her brand xylitol mints/ gums, it's available on Amazon. I use her system and I'm not in a vulnerable nor desperate situation. My mouth/teeth and gums are in very good condition and teeth always feel clean and smooth since using her complete mouth care system since February 2024. Also, toothpaste she recommends can be purchased at Walmart or drug store or supermarket. The toothbrushes she recommends can be purchased at some stores but for sure on Amazon. Don't see how she profits off the items if I'm buying them the way I mentioned with exception of the gum or mints. Just was hoping for better factual information and more of a commitment to true research than this video he did. I'm disappointed 😞.
Shouldn’t be giving dental advice or your opinions on a REAL dentist when you don’t know the rationale behind it AND you never attended dental school. This is the equivalent of patients googling their symptoms and self diagnosing themselves. I NEVER paid $500. The entire rationale in video format is FREE on UA-cam . Maybe you should watch it.
So weird, I ran across your original pulling video, then Dr. Ellie's, then later your update, recently another of Dr. Ellies, and then this..... Can't wait to see what your findings are. Keep doing what you're doing, hope you get lots of subs for the quality science. / Finished, and totally agree with you on the approach and paywall marketing she is using raises my spidey sense.
@@utahboxergirl11 I have ZERO sponsorship from ANY of the product companies. I have paid retail for the products put into the kit. Not a single company is interested in what I am doing. Dr. Ellie
@@utahboxergirl11 Want to chime in here that the answer is NONE. I have promoted the same system for over 50 years - ever since I began looking for a solution to extraction of teeth for my Mom. I have stuck faithfully to these products - year after year - only adding the Mouthwathcers toothbrushes in the past 10 years or so. Not a SINGLE company has ever contacted me - not even the little ones like Closys or Mouthwatchers - to even say "thank you". Never - not one dime - ever. Just so you know.
I have done the Ellie Phillips complete care system. My teeth are now so sensitive after 7 months of doing her complete care system. I’m devastated. I can’t even brush now and I don’t know what to do
There might be one culprit within her system that might not work for you so perhaps trying to isolate the products within the system and find the problematic one. So perhaps just start off using Xylitol, then after a week or so if sensitivity is down, add another part of the system to your weekly routine and so on until you find the issue. Make sure to not throw out the baby with the bathwater. Good luck with finding the source of your sensitivity!
It seems Dr Ellie’s main aim is to line her own pockets than to truly improve the dental health of the nation…Dr Mark Burnhenne’s assessment of dr Ellie’s protocol. The only thing he concurs with her on is the use of xylitol
I v been reading through the comments and dude you picked the wrong topic to do your ‘research’ on lol!! I m poking fun at you cause it’s quite obvious that you didn’t put a lot into this but kudos to you for stirring up a bees nest and having the truth come out by so many of us posting our own experiences. You may want to think about doing a redaction video 😂
I have watched her video on the total system many times and I dont think you have. There are so many people giving testimonials of great results there is no question she knows what she is talking about - yes her complete mouth care system works! and yes it is her way of doing things - she knows the chemistry behind it, did you listen to her life story? you have no scientific background? like what? I learned nothing here from you except you are embarrassing yourself big time. is this your job?
May try going to dentist and ask for a free visit and give reply to this one comment, you need to research more on dental health bro before you make such bold criticisms without amy medical background.
I don’t agree with you. I think he was clear and fair. I also like Dr Ellie’s video and she was professional when thanking him for his criticism in her comment above. I tho k it is good to have open discussions/criticism - I welcome it. It should all be about making money, there is so much information out there and profit making, people don’t know what’s best to do. Dr Ellie and this man’s video have both helped me. I am surprised Dr Ellie is promoting mouth wash because they are bad for you. They a chemically based and not natural. A salt water rise would be better. Anything pharmaceutical cased is questionable. My daughters teeth was stained baby by mouth wash. I would like to try Dr Ellie’s Xylitol but not the pharmaceutical tooth paste or mouth wash. My confidence in the medical profession and pharmaceutical products has gone. Even more so since Covid and the pushing if the Covid vaccine and the vaccine programme whilst at the same time having to access to doctors and dentist. The medical profession has went down in my estimation.
I appreciate your comment. Dr. Ellie's followers behave like a cult. Mouthwash, such as Listerine, raises blood pressure. I saw a video with Dr. Mark Burhenne's views on oral health and was impressed.
I don't think there's a "cult". People are just appreciative. And, BTW, Dr. Mark is very aggressively promoting his products, while Dr. Ellie is not. He publicly attacked her, so he's far from being some "nice" guy...
On your bad section, you say that she gatekeeps the info, which is not true. I've never signed up for a newsletter or any of the marketing lists and have never bought the book. The content is free on her UA-cam channel across a few videos. It's also odd that you put her monetization efforts in a negative light, but then you shill Ko-Fi memberships -- selling things you believe in is not inherently evil and you know this, but you shame Dr. Ellie for the same thing you're doing. 16:02 - again you really harp on paywalling knowledge when she lists exactly what you need to buy and that anyone can easily buy it at their local grocery store (if they're in the US). You're nitpicking on the idea that you need to sign up for things or buy her books/courses, which just isn't true. If someone resides outside of the US and those products in their country, then yes, they probably would need to buy her system from her if they want the recommended products. I've bought every piece of the system completely on my own at my local retailers and have received that information from watching her content for free on UA-cam without giving her my email or paying her a dime.
There is gatekeeping through convenience. So you can dig through her UA-cam channel, spend hours watching her videos and patch together how to use her complete mouth care system OR you can buy her book/sign up for the course or e-book to get a complete step by step cohesive summary of in 30min. Comparing a Ko-Fi page that gives videos a day early and channel updates is just not the same type of gatekeeping and you know it. If I was sharing fragments of my knowledge on UA-cam and paywalling a summarized and simplified version behind Ko-Fi/email signup/product/membership then that would be equivalent. Listing exactly what items to buy (on drellie.com/complete-mouth-care-system/) but not having the information on HOW to use it is exactly the problem. So you can see her product recommendations but you need to spend time (youtube videos), money (book/bootcamp) or personal information (email signup for guide) to then learn how to use the products. It's like selling someone a disassembled IKEA bed without the assembly instructions. I also don't think monetizing something you believe in is bad. Not sure where you got that impression from. Also x2, surprise! I don't live in the US. I guess that is something I need to disclose more often as I never thought people would see my videos purely from a US perspective.
Quote master everyday living" good idea. Maybe you should try that. Okay so you can Google. What qualifications do you have to critique a dentist who has been doing this and studying dentistry for probably longer than you've been alive. She explains in her UA-cam video her entire system for free. So no you don't have to pay for it and she is also not trying to sell you her own products just to make money. She is recommending everyday products that are not very expensive along with one product that she created because there aren't very many good products like it on the market so it's kind of in demand and I'm grateful that she created them. She knows what she is talking about and you are just making a video for likes and views and insinuating shes a quack with your Google research partial knowledge And twisting facts to slant the story against her. For some reason. I know by seeing this first video of yours I do not like you and I will not watch any more of your videos. I don't even like to give you the interaction point for commenting But I wanted to voice voice. How against you and channels like yours? I am. Putting out misinformation or just trying to find faults in other people's content because you can't make anything novel or helpful yourself.
This is Dr. Ellie and I would like to thank you for making his video.
My system was developed by trial and error - not assessing studies - in the 1970s and now there have been five decades using power point presentations in pre-natal clinics, libraries, hotel ballrooms, in small groups for oncologists, nurses, at hygienist conferences, and independent pharmacies - for zero financial reward - at a time when I could have been filling and restoring teeth - instead of teaching people how to avoid dental problems. I have tried to run studies on my system - but have had zero interest from Universities, dental insurance companies or any other outlet - which is why there are no studies on my system at this point.
Also, this system is the only way I KNOW to get people out of trouble - the one way that works. I specialized in both pediatric and geriatric dental fields - so I have a wider vision of dentistry than many. Senior dental spending in the United States shows the appalling outcome of following other methods. Thanks again.
Dr. Ellie in the virtual flesh, nice to meet you!
It really is a shame that there hasn't been any eagerness from the dental industry to do studies on your oral health approach. Like I mentioned throughout the video, I do think that you found something that worked well and have been using your unorthodox knowledge to help people solve their oral hygiene woes.
I think the trial and error method with individuals experimenting on their own is where a lot of the great discoveries occur. When people get results, it doesn't matter what the studies say because you have found a solution that solves your problems.
As time goes by and more people try solutions like Xylitol, the dental industry will eventually have to face the music and implement other unorthodox ways of maintaining good oral hygiene that might be superior to their current methods. Cheers :D
@@MasterEverydayLiving I think it important to mention the Human Microbiome Project of 2007.
We discovered for the first time over 700 kinds of bacteria found in a healthy mouth.
There are just a handful of harmful bacteria - a few that create plaque and a specific group of a dozen or so opportunistic ones that are involved in harmful periodontal disease.
My book Mouth Care Comes Clean explains this balance between oral bacteria.
Some oral bacteria are floating in saliva (planktonic) and others woven into biofilm that covers the entire interior surface of our body - including the mouth, teeth, and gums.
Xylitol plays an important part in making this healthy.
Most people are comfortable with healthy gut bacteria - and now it is time for a new understanding in the mouth.
Below is a 2019 study - and more is now understood about the mouth's GOOD bacteria:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6503789/
I do like this video as I was wondering the same as this smart chap, and as well I do like your videos. I am going to invest on your carece system and try if my gums regrow, I will give me one year target. As well using coconut oil because my daughter has cavities and one tooth that have a concussion and I am not sure what will happens. I convinced if using chewing gums with xilitol for me and my daughter along the day. She is so happy with it!
And I will let you know if this methods works for me.
Thank you very much for your consistent study and advice.
I live in UK.
I do like this video as I was wondering the same as this smart chap, and as well I do like your videos. I am going to invest on your carece system and try if my gums regrow, I will give me one year target. As well using coconut oil because my daughter has cavities and one tooth that have a concussion and I am not sure what will happens. I convinced if using chewing gums with xilitol for me and my daughter along the day. She is so happy with it!
And I will let you know if this methods works for me.
Thank you very much for your consistent study and advice.
I live in UK.
just tried those products and they seem right and cheaper than periodontal surgery - 800£, so I’m happy came across her video and you can pay in instalments so I’m sure it’s worth it 😜🦷🤞
I am a senior woman who is currently using Dr. Ellie's system and it works. I see remarkable progress just as she states. All the products are like 60 bucks combined at my local CVS. Not expensive compared to conventional dental costs. When I see new tissue growing around my teeth and the gaps filling up I believe it. Dentists will charge hundreds of dollars for grafts that don't always work. I have learned that several tissues/organs, such as the liver, in the human body can regenerate. The gum tissue is one even though the dental, medical establishment will deny this at every turn.
I concur. My teeth feel fantastic now! I love Dr. Ellie.
@@vickis.9363 same!
I appreciate your comment. Curious how long did it take to actually notice gum regrowth after starting Dr Ellie's system?
I’ve been using the system for about 3 weeks.
In the first week, almost all of the tartar on my teeth was gone, and the black triangle gaps were very noticeable. I had a lot of food getting stuck in my teeth.
Now, the gaps are smaller and filling in with gum tissue. Food isn’t getting stuck in my teeth as much. Teeth are even smoother than first week, and no noticeable tartar.
@@carolallen Thanks. About a month with a lot of discipline! My gums are almost as they were when I was younger. The larger dark triangles are just about filled in the smaller ones are completely closed.
I found Dr. Ellie's video by chance on UA-cam and decided to give it a try. It works amazingly well. Ive been on a 4 month cleaning schedule for years because I used to build up lots of plaque, regardless of diligent cleaning and flossing. Not anymore. Never bought a product from Dr. E., only from drugstores and Amazon. Her full program is also available for free on UA-cam, so never needed to buy the book. Thank you, Dr. Ellie.
I would rather spend 500 a year on her system than pay and dentist a few thousand to fix things on and on - I been doing her system for a year and my teeth are great
I learned of Dr ellie via UA-cam... No cost involved. Products are supermarket products.. Yes I have to pay more as they are American products and more expensive in New Zealand but still very affordable. Xylitol is age old, we know it in Northern Europe for eons. You can buy xylitol crystals no need for zellies... The products she uses make sense, it's logic and works for me. I still Floss once or twice a week but hardly anything there to floss anymore. Her system works for people who sip and snack around the clock (which I don't do anymore) which is most of us. She is not saying my way or no way.. She's saying this way works as it is proven to work for 40 years.
I will attest to her method. My children reversed their cavities. She has saved my family so much money on dental fillings. our,dentist now promotes her after our experiences
Reversed cavities? How bad were those cavities?
@@pupul515 pretty deep
@@macaccount4315 but you cannot do that. You cannot reverse deep deep cavities whom are already eating the inside of the tooth
If it reversed anything that means you caught the cavities early enough for it to work, which means you fixed precavities which is also a really good thing :) but remember never let cavities go on untreated thinking I'll just do this and they'll always go away
@@macaccount4315 but you cannot do that. You cannot reverse deep deep cavities whom are already eating the inside of the tooth
If it reversed anything that means you caught the cavities early enough for it to work, which means you fixed precavities which is also a really good thing :) but remember never let cavities go on untreated thinking I'll just do this and they'll always go away
Been using Dr. Ellie's protocol for 5 months and am getting amazing results now. The first few months, I didn't see any improvement. Just started noticing drastic improvements over the last month or so.
I find the protocol to be very accessible as far as cost and product availability. Also, all of the information you need is clearly spelled out in her videos for free, step by step.
If you've been frustrated with dental care, as I had been, this is worth a shot. Do give it a good 6 months to see if you like the results, though. As I said, I saw no improvement for the first several months.
Seriously, please do more research. It MIGHT cost $500 in total for the year, but not to start. Also, she DOESNT get any kickbacks from these companies. That’s a very bold, albeit wrong, statement to make.
She's not helping the companies really because they are pushing the latest product whereas she prefers products that are actually more basic. I mean they are probably happy for some business but their big profits are from the latest big claim products. But there we are.
You use the word unorthodox.
I would say non traditional.
There are many “traditional” practices in healthcare that are being shown not to be the best.
Re the listerine germ kill. She explains that it works on the bad bacteria and promotes the good bacteria. And she tells about the STUDIES on how it compares to flossing.
I bought all of her product recommendations over the counter. I did not buy any books or courses, just watched free UA-cams. I decided to try her xylitol gum. I really prefer it to the pur. It’s worth it to me. I’m glad she makes available a product that is pleasant to use. I private pay for all my dental care. So what I spend on these products is less than I would pay for the dental care they are minimizing.
Thank you Dr Ellie. So glad I found you on UA-cam.
After one week, the tartar on the back of my lower front teeth came off.
She has videos showing the complete routine on UA-cam it’s not behind the pay wall. Most of the products are at Walmart. Only her mints and gum are on her website or Amazon. They are 13.99 on her site and 14.99 on Amazon. You must have bought those on Amazon from a third party seller that jacked up the price.
Read the label more closely at 10:09. Dr. Ellie made a video recently where she touched on exactly the point you’re trying to make. Listerine specifically targets the germs THAT CAUSE bad breath, etc. Other mouth washes don’t make that same claim and are more of a free-for-all, killing both bad and good bacteria. And Dr. Ellie recommends only the specific Original and Cool Mint varieties. Other variants have a different formula and are not recommended.
Also, her entire system is listed for FREE on her website and is displayed and discussed prominently in her videos on UA-cam and TikTok. She does sell a kit for those who want to purchase the products directly from her, and she has Amazon affiliate links on her website, but she also encourages people to just buy the products on their own from a grocery store.
Finally, there are several components (and yes, three of them are rinses), but the system is carefully crafted in a specific order to get your mouth to the right state in which it’s safe to brush (that’s what the xylitol and Closys do) before switching to the Listerine and Act to fulfill their purposes. For example, Listerine is one of the only proven rinses to take the place of flossing (they used to market this fact).
The Listerine she recommends contains over 20% alcohol, which kills good and bad bacteria
@@erheaflower4318 I have been looking at ingredients in what she recommends and was thinking that same thing. What's the difference between that, since alcohol kills germs indiscriminately, and hydrogen peroxide in mouthwashes used to whiten teeth, which aren't to be used because it kills the good bacteria too.
@@erheaflower4318 no alcohol does not kill all bacteria, but listerine will kill the plaque and it will dissolve the tartar and you can easily brush it away
@@erheaflower4318I used to think that too but the healthy oral flora comes from your saliva so you do replenish if Listerine actually removes the "good" ( whatever that is..) bacteria. I actually find my mouth to have saliva now even after my sleep which used to be bone dry ! I am surprise about that because I didn't expect that at all. Because of what is said about removing good bacteria too, I don't used Listerine for decades. Such a shame that I didn't use it during all these years. Sorry if it does not work on your mouth.
Thanks for this breakdown. I had pretty poor gum health and significant bone loss from poor dental hygiene, 100% my fault, many nights I'd be so burned out and exhausted I'd just end up falling asleep without brushing. I know. Gross. I would do a great job in the morning cleaning up though, but time plus acidic saliva overnight did its damage. I've stopped the bad habits as of a couple months ago. I started by using her system as recommended, but started noticing tooth staining. For over a decade prior, I was using Auromere fresh mint toothpaste, with no issues with staining. I traced the new staining down to use of fluoride. With that said, aside from the staining, using Closys, listerine, and xylitol, my gums and oral health made the craziest rapid improvement. Inflamed gums to pink healthy gums in literally like 2 weeks. I've tweaked her protocol to eliminate the fluoride due to staining, and thankfully, I've gotten rid of the stains, caught it early enough. For me, I've got it dialed in now. My routine: brush tongue first with a tiny dab of toothpaste, and rinse with water. Then do the Closys, then brush gums followed by teeth. I use 50/50 Auromere fresh mint and Tom's kid's fluoride free strawberry toothpaste. Reason for Auromere is the herbs, reason for Tom's is the SLS (basically soap). The Crest she recommends is SLS-based, and I noticed it did do a little better job cleaning than the Auromere toothpaste alone, that I had previously used. I do floss but I don't floss into my gums anymore. Follow with Listerine original mouthwash, followed by a xylitol glycerine containing mouthwash after. In the morning I use Spry xylitol peppermint, at night, I use Auromere mouthwash. 2x a day Listerine dries out the mouth a bit I feel, so the Auromere mouthwash, which is glycerine and no alcohol, I like to think of as lotion for my mouth. Spry has glycerine too, and a low amount of alcohol. Anyway, this tweaked version of her system is the best thing I've ever done for my mouth. My oral hygiene is on a whole other planet now. Hope this helps someone out there.
I really appreciate the detailed breakdown and how you have modified the routine so that it works for you. Keep it uuppp!! It's amazing how addictive a healthy mouth and squeaky clean teeth are once you understand how to maintain it and know that it is all within your power to do so. Cheers :D
Interesting how you've adapted. The main thing is empowerment and being able to adapt any system.
Her system is very affordable if you substitute the Zellies for Pur or Xylitol Crystals. Its only around $20 a month in the US
OMGosh. You’re very sweet, but you need to put more research into this topic before posting a video. First of all, you aren’t required to buy any of Dr Ellie’s educational materials. She explains her whole mouth care system on UA-cam & TikTok for FREE. Secondly, you don’t have to buy (from her) any of the products she promotes. Everything is available in local stores and/or Amazon, which she encourages users to take advantage of. So, you don’t need to give her a cut on any of the purchases you make. Furthermore, you don’t even have to buy her Zellie gums or mints. There are other xylitol products available in local stores, including the Canadian product PÜR gum/mints. I'm sorry to say, but your "research" is riddled with misinformation and inaccuracies.
I agree with everything you wrote! Well done! Riddled for sure - at least seven misinformation statements he made.
@@jamiexxjamie that’s the definition of conflict of interest. It doesn’t matter if you don’t “have” to buy from her, the fact that you can is enough to disqualify anything she says at face value. Someone selling a health insurance scam is incentivized to lie to you even though you could just get scammed by someone else. If you want to do the research yourself and come to a similar conclusion that’s fine. There’s a reason actual scientific papers have to explicitly detail any conflicts of interest they may have.
@@ncramz1662 that’s like me saying you should drink water then linking to water you can buy, then you saying it’s bad to drink water! 😵💫
@@Mygary are you profiting off of linking me a bottle of water? Can I buy another brand of water or only the specific item you linked? If you truly just wanted me to drink water it wouldn’t matter what water brand I bought.
Precisely! I'm surprised the creator hasn't pinned one of the comments noting this, or better yet written their own comment noting their mistakes and pinning it so anyone that comes to the video knows that. Leaves me with a rather diminished view of the creator and their other content now.
Cost breakdown:
$500/yr = $41.67/mo = $1.37/day -or- $0.69/twice daily.
People waste much more money than that everyday on goofy and dumb stuff they don't need; subscriptions, tobacco, alcohol & drug habits, fancy coffee shops, etc.
It sounds more likely that the people whining about the costs of this system, or trying anything new that may be beneficial, don't have their priorities straight and have very poor impulse control.
this was a really dumb comment im ngl
I support her because she says to not floss and I HATE flossing! Her system makes teeth feel more cleaner then flossing. Floss is terrible for the environment and sea creatures
I hate regular flossing too and regular floss has questionable ingredients including teflon. There is natural silk floss as an alternative(will naturally decompose), or water flossing which I prefer.
Seriously, are you high?
You support here primarily because she is also against something you HATE? Thats about the stupidest thing one could say in public, and out right prove ones ignorance. And then to double-down on some outlandish claim about floss being terrible for the environment and sea creatures???
LOL, floss is made of nylon/teflon and maybe some wax. It degrades in under 80 years, which is decades or centuries sooner than many plastics and other man-made products.
Crazy people are attracted to other crazy people...
@@SynthVGguitarist Water flossing is detrimental to your gum health and not necessary if you implement her system. She is a godsend.
what is the point of flossing if you dont even have plaque in between the teeth? ;)
she says not to floss in general but go ahead if you have some food stuck, which is why you should floss sometimes if needed, not for plaque but stuck food particles. I have tight teeth gaps and constantly getting food stuck so floss regularly to get it out but not due to plaque, flossing is super easy with floss picks by plackers twin line
I can't afford the Complete Mouth Care System but I have learnt a lot watching her videos. I bought her Xylitol gums. When that ran out I bought a one kilo bag of Xylitol crystals. It's so much cheaper. I put a little bit in my mouth after drinking or eating.
After a meal, I use water flosser followed by baking soda in water solution mouth rinse to make my mouth alkaline and kill bad bacteria. After I spit out the baking soda solution, I place Xylitol crystals in my mouth. Set the timer for one hour. Then brush my teeth. After brushing my teeth I place a little bit of Xylitol crystals in my mouth again.
I have no more bad breath and my teeth are not sensitive anymore.
I improvise and it works for me because I have learnt a lot from Dr Ellis.
Crystal's in mouth for one hour?
i don't get how people are saying it's expensive. Definity not $500 as this video claims. It actually cost $37 per month per person to get the following products that Dr Ellie recommended. Of course it will be more it you order her kit. She does say you can get all of these at your local drug stores
32 oz bottle of closys ultra sensitive rinse (should last 1 month)11.38
Crest original five 8 0z tubes (should last at least 6 months) 14.99 (2.50 per month)
50 oz Cool mint listerine (should last 2 months) 7.99 (3.99 month)
Act mint zero alcohol fluoride rinse pack of four, (should last 2 months) 21.99 (10.99 per month)
large bag of zellie xylitol mints 540 mints (should last 3.5 months) 28.50 (8.14 per month)
Appreciate the detailed breakdown with the costs that you are able to get the products with in the US. I think your numbers still support my estimate, if buying everything in bulk leads to $37USD /month, that is $444 USD per year. Add on sales tax depending on your state and you are pretty close to $500 USD.
Now I live in Canada so the prices I have in the video are Canadian dollars ($37 USD = $50 CDN) so that is $600 year if I got it at the prices you have. But sadly enough imported US goods are more expensive so a 540 bag of Zellies would be around $65 CDN (which is $47USD). That is around a 60% increase in price. All the other oral hygiene products also follow the same approximate increase in price like a 32oz Closys bottle is $23 CDN = $16 USD. Let's not forget the HST tax, which would add 13%.
So adding a conservative 60% increase to your overall cost breakdown, it would be around $59 USD/month to get the same bulk products you listed here in Canada making my video estimate actually undershoot it. $700 USD / $950 CDN per year would be the real price to get those products here in Canada.
But that is sadly not the case for everyone because some people in the comment section don't even have access to the products (like in Australia) and they would have to pay an exorbitant amount for these products.
So I would say it is expensive, of course not the same as getting dental care from a clinic but expensive nonetheless.
@@MasterEverydayLiving Buy from Australia, add packing & handling + shipping + large family. Gollygeewilakas not economical for the average Ausie family. 🦘🦘😒😒
Buy from Australia, add packing & handling + shipping +large family. Gollygeewilakas not economical for the average Ausie family. 🦘🦘😒😒
Buy from Australia, add packing & handling + shipping + curancy exchange +large family. Gollygeewilakas not economical for the average Ausie family. 🦘🦘😒😒
Imagine for me in Brazil hahaha. I think I'll try xylitol for a while. Thanks for the list.
So, I recently watched some of her videos and decided to give it a try. The only way I knew how was through a particular video that explains the process of the system and gives enough info to understand how to do it without buying anything. Which is on her utube. I only bought 2 items on Amazon and not through the links. The other 2 rinses I bought at the local store. Pretty cheap. And I don’t get Zellies. I use plain xylitol or a brand called “pur” that can be found at a better price. I’m 3 weeks in and havnt been as militant as I could be but I’m sure If I started this earlier my teeth would be better off. But I have hope and I can see a difference for sure. When I do it every 12 hrs I wake with no morning breath (colloidal silver has done this in the past but nothing else to that extent !) ... so anyhow just givin my story ! If my small cavities heal at all i will let u know !! 🤞🏼
Do totally let let us know how it ends up going and if you manage to get those cavities under control and how it goes for ya in a few weeks! Good luck with your oral hygiene journey :D
I think both your and her videos are helpful for anyone who is looking for good oral health solution without lifelong visits to dentists. Thanks to both of you for sharing such amazing information all of which adds value in their own way.
I would only disagree that Ellie’s system doesn’t have a paywall. I have been using her system since January. I got all the details from watching her free UA-cam content. I would have to say for the most part my oral hygiene has improved. But I am
Using Invisalign and I am getting lots of staining around the anchor points for the trays that are attached to my teeth. It’s unpleasant to say the least. I don’t feel her system is helping with that. But the front teeth where I normally have staining from coffee are looking much whiter and brighter, which I do appreciate. I did start oil pulling this past week based on some of your content. I am hoping that process helps with the staining issue I am having from the Invisalign anchor points. We will see how it feels after about 1 month.
Ok sorry about the disagreement above, I see you made amendments to your position on this. But also see I should explain more about my experience and need for Ellie’s system. My attempt was also related to gum recession. I had been flossing and using the sonicare toothbrush twice daily. With this system I did achieve a reduction in overall sensitivity in my teeth to cold temperature drinks. I now can enjoy ice in my water. Yay! However the gum recession did creep in. That is where I started Ellie’s system. So now it has been about 4-5 months on her system. I am happy to report the recession feels better. However when I go into orthodontist office for a check in or small procedure related to my Invisalign, I incur damage again to my gums and get a spot where the recession becomes worse and increases my sensitivity to food and brushing again. And like I said in my first comment I am getting the unsightly staining which isn’t being helped my Ellie’s system on my anchor points. So that is the back story to the current time. Overall, I believe if I didn’t have the invisilign, Ellie’s system would be wonderful. And overall it’s slightly less time than oil pulling.
Really appreciate your experience that you shared, having something like an Invisilign for sure throws a curveball in ones oral health routine. Glad that you are having success with the system and even though it might not fix the staining, the cosmetic part of it is imo more of a secondary oral health win if it managed to do so. The big tough decision would be to cut out coffee and see how that would impact the staining. Now with that said, coffee is delish and sometimes one has to make a sacrifice for the things we love. Cheers!
My stains seems go off faster when i start adding essential oils to carrier oil for pulling. And i saw many different types of oil pulling products on Amazon, etc. with essential oils and other things.
Dr Ellie has a yt video addressing teeth stains. Take a bit of crushed xylitol and mix it with some toothpaste. Use this mixture to brush your teeth in the am.
Also, check out Dr. Ellies dedicated video on oil pulling. It destroys ALL bacteria in the mouth, good and bad. Not good.
Hi Paul, let me start by saying that I like your style as I have said before.
This video in particular concerns me in a VERY personal way since I’m one of the hundreds of people who have had great improvement in their oral health just by following Dr. Ellie’s recommendations.
I didn’t have to enroll in her boot camp, order any of her kits from Amazon or buy any of her books.
She includes a FREE copy of her booklet when you subscribe to her FREE newsletter and you can get ALlL the products she recommends from your local pharmacy ( except the xylitol) which Doesn’t have to be her mints, as you tried a different kind for your video on xylitol use.
Yes, she is VERY adamant about using those products in the way she recommends because they work as a system.
Maybe it’s a generational issue where the younger ones need to see lots of data supporting the claims and on the other hand the older people rely more on the results they get by trying the approach suggested. That’s what matters to me, knowing that my teeth and gums are getting better each day.
As per the money that one has to spend buying the products ( from my local pharmacy) I see that as an investment, NOT an expense.
Appreciate the comment and I totally stand corrected, in the email I got it does have a link at the top that redirects you to a free guide so my bad on that. I'll pin a post with that!
I did try the Zellies mints and gum in another video (quick summary, it's a better tasting and longer lasting gum than Pur but the Xylitol effects were the same for me for a much lower cost) before this video and think that your approach is more aligned with what I am trying to advocate for, of people needing to experiment on their own and find what works for them.
Glad that you have had really good results lts with her system. If I may ask, how long have you been following it for, how was your oral health before you began and have you modified the routine since you began?
Yet again, appreciate the comment! I can only get so far looking into it from a non-user that is happy with their own oral health and think a lot of people will benefit from hearing perspectives from people who have tried Dr. Ellie's system!
Hello again Paul. First of all let me tell you that I like you even more now because you had the honesty to correct your statement in a humble manner and that says a lot about you.
To answer your question I will start by saying that it’s been 6 weeks since I started following Dr. Ellie’s protocol and I saw a significant improvement by the second week.
My teeth looked whiter and felt harder/ stronger.
I was brushing my teeth 3x/day and flossing before bed religiously for years, and every time I went to the dentist they said that my gums keep receding and I would have to have cleanings every 4 months instead of twice a year. NO other solutions were offered to me.
Well, long story short I came across a video from Dr. Ellie and here I am 6 weeks after, starting to see improvement in my gums appearance( pinkier color) and less sensitivity. I’m 61 years young 😊therefore my teeth have gone through a lot of damage due to misinformation and myths but I have managed to keep my original teeth which I’m very grateful for.
Give yourself some time to understand the logic behind her claims and you will see why hundreds of people have been helped by it.
You are too young to experience firsthand what older ones have with their teeth, but I’m hoping that you know someone who can benefit from this protocol.
Thank you once again and keep up the good work.
One would think that it would be normal to concede and correct one's self when we find something wrong in our approach but the internet has taught me that not everyone thinks this way...
Awesome that you have had such great results from her system after 6 weeks. When you find something that works, keep doing it!! Would love to hear another quick comment update in a month or so if that is not too much to ask 😅
In my opinion like I mentioned in the video, I still believe that her system works. It especially works for people with dire oral hygiene needs. I just might not be one of those people. Throughout my experiments, even using Xylitol products 5 times a day would be too much for my mouth as I found my tongue to get sensitive just from 2-3 times per day or if I chewed the gum for too long. Those 2-3 chewing sessions per day were enough for me to see and feel positive oral health results. I tried the a Listerine mouthwash in the past and it was too abrasive for my mouth.
With all that said, I really think that comments like yours are more efficient in convincing people to try and take care of their teeth because it is such a frustrating thing to be following everything that experts recommend without any improvements to ones oral health. I was in a similar position following the norms recommended by dentists and having bad oral health up until my 30's. I then went deep into trying to figure out why it was so bad for myself and that journey has made me realize that many of us are really lost when it comes to maintaining our oral hygiene. Having open and honest conversations like this is a great way to shed a bit more light on the topic.
Cheers!
@@MasterEverydayLiving I thought you were in your 20s; on the lower end. That's a compliment! lol
@@Katatawnic Those Asian genes doing its thaaang :P
Her system was extremely cheap and the booklet with the steps I think was like under 5 bucks? And then every product you need you can get at the grocery store for super cheap or order the set for a little cheaper even from her and it comes in a box delivered to your door. I got 4 toothbrushes with the antibacterial silver , her box of the products needed that should last super long, lots of gum/mints for maybe $100?
Yeah I have pictures . I was LOSING a huge patch of enamel on my two front teeth. 1 week in right now and it’s completely filled in. every day all day my teeth feel clean , no plaque
do you think you can share the pictures?
@@BlackBlood74 yeah how like email you?
I do oil pulling, xylitol and regular brushing without fluoride. That's good enough for now, but a lot of people have followed her advice and seemed to have improved their gums and teeth. It's very confusing her Listerine. Fluoride and ACT promotion for me, all those products have been rejected by so many natural Drs etc.
Dr Ellie explains her reasoning re Florida and dyes in the mouth washes in a video explaining her mouth care routine. A recent update. It made sense to me.
"Fluoride"
$500 IS COMPLETELY FALSE! I just started. I don't have a lot of money so, although I downloaded Dr Ellie's - FREE - booklet of Dr. Ellie's Complete System, using her UA-cam link as a guide of what to buy, I went to Amazon and purchased the items. I only didn't use her Amazon links because it offered multiple tubes of toothpaste & mouthwash whereas I purchased single tubes & single bottles of the mouthwashes/rinses. Even if I had bought the quantities she had in her Amazon links, it still would not have totaled $500.
I disagree to parts of this video as some of his findings are incorrect. You do not have to purchase Dr. Ellie’s books to learn about the step by step system. I went onto her website, gave my email address and was sent the instructions FREE. I did purchase the mouthwashes from my local drug store and have been following the routine for 6 months and the change in my oral health has been miraculous - just 6 months! Xylitol can easily be purchased at your local drug store so you don’t have to buy via her website if you don’t want to. I have been going to a dentist for over 40 years, had many expensive dental procedures, spent thousands of dollars on my teeth and NEVER had them be as healthy & strong, excellent gum health as they are right now following this dental system for just 6 months. When I went to show my dentist, he looked sheepishly and kinda admitted that they don’t want people to know how easy & effective it is to have good oral health as it’s not good for business. Dr Ellie should be commended for the truth & wisdom she is freely offering to people.
In advanced, sorry for the long comment. I'm just curious and love to offer my perspective and rebuttle.
I like how curious you are about this because i was too. I still take a lot of what she says with caution. I still floss and use my tongue scraper and have still seen pretty positive results on her routine. All her stuff is free on videos BTW. You don't need the books or the website stuff. Buy all the products at your local walmart, target, etc which is the only reason I even gave this a shot.
I believe she uses a lot simple terminology to help people understand the basics but I do wish she would talk about which bacteria in particular are being eliminated. Probably ones that cause cavities haha.
I wish she would push less for selling her products but since she isn't doing regular dentistry, I suppose she has to get money through her mints which is cool but I don't understand the purpose of her course or why sell books that tell you the same things she gives for free.
She also says she "believes," because you're right, there aren't any studies on her method, which sucks, but I suppose people who try it are the only ones who can say.
If the dentistry world weren't such a huge corporate monster, I'd agree that this is overkill and it sort of is, but it is also prevention and healing. There is too much sugar in regular foods now a days that it's hard to not have cavities by such a young age. I've also noticed people think they're a lot more healthy than they really are. People can have underlying issues that are never addressed by dentists until you have to shell out money which is sad. She has also mentioned that women struggle more with oral care due to hormones so I think women would benefit from a routine like this.
Besides the system she sells on her page, she says you can buy them anywhere and most are fairly cheap. Buying the in store would have no benefit to her. You can also by xylitol mints anywhere as long as they don't have sugar. Maybe not many people would do this and keep buying her kit but I just went to the store haha. Regardless, some rich person is getting my money from these products.
I agree that you may not need the whole thing but it might be tough to see why it is failing and blame it on her. If anything, people should do the xylitol and clo-sys because the part of getting your mouth to the right PH before brushing makes sense. Her toothpaste rec is so cheap that I don't mind doing that either. I was on the fence about her mouthwashes because listerine is awful.
Anyway, great video. Hopefully she gets funding for her stuff and we can maybe see if her methods are real or just hopeful based off the patients she's had in the past. Although, I will say that in the UK, they don't push flossing as much as here in the US and they have pretty good oral care, albeit not as pretty as everyone in the US. They focus a lot on being healthy vs aesthetics.
No worries about the long write-up, love seeing other people's perspective on it.
One thing that a new user would have a hard time navigating is all the content that Dr. Ellie has. So even though all her content is free, as a person who knows about her YT channel, blog and website and have looked through it all, they are very fragmented with knowledge sprinkled around that you need to hunt down to begin her routine. The two place that I am aware of where her full routine with cohesive steps can be found is in her books/her kit.
I agree to most of what you are saying and there really is a lack of studies looking into things like this. It's a shame because I feel like so many people (including you and me) have experienced the benefits but can't really put the exact science down to back it up. I personally think it's not that important to know how things work (like how many of us drive cars but don't know how the engine works) but it would be a vital step towards mass adoption if that ever was on the Dr. Ellie's system blueprint horizon!
Cheers :D
Paul thank you for your comments. For me to buy Dr. Ellie's whole system it would cost me a lot for shipping, so even though I bought some of the items online locally, I have been feeling guilty about not purchasing the whole system.
I am an older woman with very bad teeth. I did buy products and even mouthwash that had xylitol in them after watching her videos. I've been using the Crest toothpaste, the Listerine mouthwash, and gum and candies whose first ingredient is xylitol.
After two weeks I was already able to bite down on my left side that was giving me extreme pain. I have also been made aware of my teeth and no longer just go through the motions. I'm paying attention, and my teeth do look brighter.
I see that she did answer you, and I will probably break down and buy her system. If I never have anothet root canal or tooth implant, I will consider it money well spent. I think then I would label her a "Saint Doctor"!
I am writing from Australia and most of the products recommended by Ellie cost quite a bit. Eg 3 bottles of closys costs me about A$100 and last about 3 to 4 months. Crest and ACT must be ordered and shipped from the USA. I had written and asked Dr Ellie on one of Dr Ellie's video whether Closys could be replaced with ozonated water since closys allowed you to brush straight away after eating and kills the bad and good bacteria in the mouth. Ozonated water enable you to kill the bacteria and to save cost, I am willing to brush my teeth more than 30 minutes after eating...using ozonated water from biosure ozonated tumbler which is more sustainable. There was no response and even my reply to one fellow australian on where I source the products were deleted..not once but all the time ! I began to have my suspicions that someone is not happy for me to be giving some ideas.
I’m from Australia and just ordered all the products on Amazon. Not too pricey but wondering how long it will all last me.
I’m from Australia & did find Dr Ellie helpful but could only find Listerine nothing else from her extensive product list but am able to make saliva & be aware of eating more than 3 times A day & keeping my mouth in A constance acidic state. Buying into her system posted to Australia A step too far. Dr Ellie dose come across as mainly A sales person with her product to push. Dr Ellie not quite as open sourced & helpful as others on UA-cam, 🦘🦘
@@desmondo7042 show how is it her fault that you can't get the products in your country???
@@laurenduggan1127 NOT her fault at all. You can get her products shipped to Australia like any other item on line. I know this. My point being for me & maybe others with very large blended or not family on A lower social economic rung of the society ladder is the cost. Was saying I learned something helpful from her but I see mainly sale pitch, nothing wrong with that either. I was concurring with gentleman in the video Thier are folk happily sharing information in A more charitable way. Keep smiling & flashing those pearly whites & stay cosmic.😃😃🦘🦘
I'm also appalled that Crest toothpaste is $29 in Australia. Surely there would be other ones available here that are similar? Could Dr Ellie look into whats available down under and advise?
Today I bought all the items except the xylitol for $49, which included two bottles of Listerine and two tubes toothpaste. I’m thinking what I purchased today should last more than a month. The two boxes of toothpaste should last more than six months. If the liquid items only last a month, then I can see the cost being about $35 per month including the xylitol. That is costly, but I’m giving up on my dentist because all he wants to do is deep clean my teeth (2 hours) and pull teeth. I’m done with that. No more. My teeth haven’t bled or hurt for over twenty years. I don’t need them pulled. I’m going to try Philip’s system because what she recommends makes more sense than what my dentist tells me. He has never recommended the items she explains. He should of at least recommended the Listerine. I don’t think flossing works that well, and if you’re not addressing the bad germs in the mouth and teeth, then the flossing won’t do much good.
Great video and solid breakdown the drEllie was groundbreaking at bringing awareness to mouth health and xylotil,your info is awesome as well its all about options thanks.
I totally agree with ya that it is all about spreading awareness that one has the power to fix their oral hygiene and that there are many options out there that one could try in order to do so. Appreciate the comment, cheers!
You will not find the studies you would like because dental schools and organizations would never fund a study that would decrease their business.
You seem to imply having watched "all" her videos, she is aggressively promoting her kit and products as a money maker, hinting grift. My experience is she is all to clear that she put her kit together as a service to those who may have difficulties accessing the products. I in no way share your assessment, and in fact put her at saint status. Im on my one year anniversary of useing the system and at 63 and a former smoker my mouth is vastly improved. All the kit items i am able to buy my supermarket and if im feeling extra miserly, I can save $5 on the 4 items at Wal-Mart.
I put her in the saint category as well. My teeth have never felt better and I'm ecstatic!
I am starting Dr. Ellie's system yesterday. I have gum disease. I purchased the products at Walmart and Amazon for about $50. I am using the Xylitol granules vs mints or gum. Her videos explain the how to use the products. So, I will not initial buy her book or class. It seems like one of her books is $7 in kindle format. I am anxious to give the system a try. I did notice the products seem to work together because she suggest not rinsing your mouth between products.
I make my own yogurt with no sugar added. If I have any tooth or gum pain eating this yogurt while swooshing it around my teeth and gums eliminates any pain or discomfort.
I am on a low carb diet trying to avoid any sugar. I eat homemade yogurt almost daily and might start making kefir again for more good bacteria. So maybe in a month or two, I might try experimenting by not using the Listerine or just using it once in awhile. I hope there will not be bad bacteria in my mouth,
One thing I like is she says use the system and keep your appointment with your usual dentist. So there is a collaborative approach between patient and dentist.
For me I like the idea of using Xylitol and will try this. I do floss between my front teeth which are very close together. But I do not floss below or to the gum line.
I've started tongue scraping. Seems a good idea.
She has interesting thoughts about the role of saliva in combating plaque and in remineralising teeth.
Her perspective is this can be damaged by continual drinking and eating between meals.
Xylitol after food then leaving a gap is a good idea as is leaving tooth brushes to dry. Intuitively I have been focusing on brushing the gums. Apart from anything if you brush your gums then apart from massaging them you spread the foam of the toithepaste around the mouth.
If her system works, which part is it that works? She has valuable insights across the range of things, including how you eat and drink.
Not in her system but I typically eat dark chocolate and drink black tea. There's some evidence that these, along with cheese, which she does mention, can contribute to improved teeth and plaque.
So. If your mouth is in fairly good shape then you only need to add one or two ideas of hers for an improvement.
If your miuth is in terrible shape her system might be worth a try. And could be cheaper in the end. Ultimately we are in partnership with our dentist to result in good teeth and gums.
If you're doing OK now, then adding Xylitol, recognising that your saliva is doing most of the work and massage gums is likely beneficial.
Don't snack between meals is what we were told as children for good reason. That along with Xylitol after meals can be the biggest changes to oral health.
Dentist says "you're doing a great job". Great.
PS Dr Ellie's system is open source in that apart from Zellies it's all identified and commonly available products. In many cases she's going for the cheaper products, albeit in a systematic approach. No secret ingredients, no special formulations.
I had gum troubles for years. Earlier this year I had some tooth and gum pain. When I eat my homemade yogurt with no sugar added, and move the yogurt around my gums the pain vanished. What are you thoughts?
I listened to her long podcast 2x. I get xyletol gum and mints from a local health store. I bought the other products from a grocery store. Her system works ok so far, for me.
I follow her quite passionately and have never bought from her
After watching Dr Ellie I realised every dentist I have ever used and in multiple countries ALL had fillings and crowns etc.
Look at the dentist who has teeth like you would want and then use their system.
Willing to give it a try and its only week 2
Hi! In a recent video of hers, someone commented about how toxic flouride is. They asked her why she promotes a toothpaste with flouride. She turned the comments off. What is your take on flouride? I cannot see a dentist as I am housebound, and I had an experimental operation that has left me only able to open my mouth 4 centimetres. So no hygienist can work on me. What toothpaste would you recommend? Thank you in advance for your time. ❤
Sounds like a tough situation that you are in with being housebound and that operation, hope things take a turn for the better.
As for my take on fluoride, I haven't had a bad experience with it. Always got it after a cleaning session in the past. I believe the Canadian tap water that I drink also contains fluoride so I personally think that in small doses, its probably fine. It's not something I would incorporate into my routine through a fluoride product but being exposed to it occasionally or in extremely low doses probably isn't as harmful as some people say it is.
As for toothpaste recommendations, I don't really have any as I usually get what's on sale... Now with that said, I am doing an experiment where I am not brushing my teeth (so no toothpaste either) and its currently been a week and my teeth feel great. The reason I am mentioning this is because I believe that it's just not one product that fixes everything but more of a lifestyle tweak that can create lasting change. So doing things like rinsing your mouth after each meal of fizzy drink throughout the day. Staying hydrated to prevent dry mouth. Eating as healthy as possible to limit the amount of bacteria in your mouth. Using products like Xylitol after meals to prevent bacteria from sticking to your teeth. Oil pulling in the morning as a baseline to reset my mouth.
It's a bit more of a radical and obscure approach to oral hygiene but I think that is often times needed when the normal methods of care don't work. I have personally found success with both Xylitol and Oil Pulling but know that it might not be for everyone.
Good luck with your oral health journey, hopefully you can figure out a routine that works for your mouth!
@@MasterEverydayLiving Thanks for taking the time to reply. I will get the Xylitol gum. Very interested about what you are doing, apart from oil pulling to clean your teeth. I guess that will be in a future video. I have already subscribed, so hopefully you will share soon. Thank you for your kind words, much appreciated 👍
She turned the comments off instead of simply replying? That is never a good sign!
@@Katatawnic I believe she is being sponsored. I live in England, and all the Dentists only have Colgate to sell and advertise. On our TV commercials it says 9 out of 10 Dentists use it. It's been that way since I was a child, and I'm 57. I think if you really believe flouride is good, then she should say so. Also the overuse of mouth washes is concerning, seeing as they have alcohol which is very drying on the mouth. I am no expert, but the lack of openess is concerning. ❤️
@@jacquelineteale4937 I'm positive that a lot of these "influencers" are sponsored. You're supposed to disclose this, but many don't. It's deceptive. When they push particular products instead of certain kinds of products, I get suspicious. Especially when they sell expensive kits. I always get the generic brands whenever the ingredients are the same or comparable enough. I don't care about brand names; I care about results.
I also agree with what Paul said about her "my way or the highway" attitude, for all the reasons he listed. Different people have different problems for different reasons, so there is no blanket cure.
I do love my cool mint Listerine, but I use it before brushing in the morning. Some people think I'm weird for doing it this way, but while I like the germ killing factor, I don't like the strong taste or dryness to linger. I also have an extremely sensitive gag reflex, so using the antiseptic before brushing gets rid of morning breath, and then when I brush my tongue I don't gag so much. There's a method to my madness!
But I absolutely agree about the use of so much mouthwash being concerning. It's overkill, and I can see how it could cause a problem. The rebound effect could cause an overproduction of bacteria; just like taking antibiotics can kill too much yeast in the body, which often leads to yeast infections.
I just don't implicitly trust her. Something about her rubs me the wrong way. I prefer people like Paul, who are nuanced and are willing to discuss differences of opinion. I feel he's being honest with us and with himself. I don't get that vibe from her.
Sir, your conclusions are incomplete. I have been using her system (all free information) for about a year….and she hasn’t received one penny of profit from my product purchases. As far as I can tell she gives full disclosure for free. So regarding your conclusions, I have to ask: “COMPARED TO WHAT”?
The dental profession wouldn’t be what it is if there were not enough people with oral health problems….the percentage of population doesn’t matter. Only people with problems are looking for answers….and obviously there are plenty….even enough to make it worthwhile for UA-cam channel review videos. What does that tell you about the effectiveness of the information the industry provides for free?
ALL kids getting cavities (I was one) and their parents need this information. The free information offered by the industry guidelines is not working for many and clearly has not worked for decades. They have taught us this same information since (1950s?) grammar school and continue to do so. It is not from sugar.
The bottom line of her message is that THESE PROBLEMS ARE MOSTLY THE RESULTS OF INADEQUATE ABATEMENT OF BACTERIAL INFECTION. The industry refuses to offer information to the public that effectively addresses this. Do you think the industry does not know this is the real issue?
When did any other dentist enlighten you to a potential system that could possibly eliminate or drastically reduce the need to see oral health specialists? This is a system that worked for her and her mother. It’s working for hundred or thousands of others. She’s more than qualified to share the results, method and products. She’s been doing so for decades and challenging the status quo. Don’t you question why there’s no embrace from the industry or at least an interest in testing it? Hopefully that day will come, but some of us need to take action now to at least try it.
I have not seen miracles from following her system. But the sensitivity and gum bleeding has improved immensely. I wish I found her information ten years ago. I wish this was taught when I was in grammar school along with the brushing and flossing. I brushed and flossed religiously, but problems still manifested as I got older. The worst problems were from the teeth with fillings.
I have been using Dr. Ellie's system for a couple of months without spending much money at all. I have had great results, no more inflammation of my gums in a certain area of my mouth, my teeth are the cleanest they have ever been, actually they are 'shiney'.I only wish I had known about this oral care routine years ago. It would have saved me thousands! I am 73.. Next time I see my dentist, I will educate him him a little, and ask his evaluation, not an invasion scraping of my teeth. They don't need it!
We follow Dr. Ellie's system to a 'T.' Dr. Ellie offered us a kit, but she also reminded us that we could buy all of the recommended items from local shops and online stores, which is what we have done. The total cost for us is about $250/year: $125 for my hubby, and $125 for me. These prices also include 100% xylitol gum and granulated xylitol, both of which we use every day. Learning to use the system was as simple as watching an hour-long UA-cam video by Dr. Ellie herself. We found her book, "kiss your dentist goodbye," in the local library. So much for your thoughts on "Dr. Ellie Phillips." Suggest you watch the previously-mentioned one-hour UA-cam, which you obviously have not.
I already brush my teeth, so swishing 2 times after ( and take out the flossing) is not much & swishing is more pleasant than flossing to me. I still floss gently if something is in between. The system may not be for many ..YET. One can wait til their oral health is poor and then start. That's their choice. It's like being healthy..you don't have to eat healthy .. until you do. Rinsing also kept my teeth after-a-dentist-visit smooth even months later. I am getting better results from her system than my decades of brushing/flossing .
Dr Elliie's passion said everything I needed to hear
Rinse your mouth with plain water and salt water frequently throughout the day and night, and use xylitol accordingly, keep it simple$$$
I like how Dr Ellie responded to you in a diplomatic way and with complete honesty. Three folks below commented in a way I agree with with in these three points. 1) You did not explain your $500 comments and you spun it in a way that I felt was clearly misinformed or dishonest. 2) She does mention her research into studies and her videos are backed by studies. Of course one can always find some study to conflict and create confusion. But I would say her clinical results and those of many of her colleagues is substantial! 3) You made two other misleading comments which are addressed below by other folks who have paid for her $50 system of teaching which is well worth it!! I would hope you would consider editing your video of these three mis-information topics. With sincerity I say this.
I did a deep dive on Paul's "deep dive on@dr.elliephillips" called "Which is the best way and how to reverse your cavities" on Substack, and left the link yesterday here and he deleted the comment. I hope Paul can't only give criticism, but take it!
$500?!?! I spent closer to $25 to begin the system. I also found another brand of xylitol mints on Amazon that seem the same but are not cheaper. It’s helped me soooo much with receding gums.
Thank you for the video! Totally agree with you. I'm like Dr.Ellie approach to holistic health, but monetization attempt is bit to agressive for me.
Thanks! for saving me time and looking into this😊🥰
Xylitol is expensive. Are there cheaper bulk xylitol products on Amazon available?
I have mostly converted to Xylitol crystals over gums and mints, one of the big benefits is that it is a much cheaper alternative.
Here is a video where I talk about that! ua-cam.com/video/ym7uq6mSyxM/v-deo.html&ab_channel=MasterEverydayLiving
I think she is a polarising figure and pretty rigid in her POV. Many Westerners (and people from all over influenced by Western medicine) tend to believe in finding the ‘perfect’ system for oral health.
Can branded OTC toothpaste and mouthwashes keep you healthy? Sure. They can also have many unperceived side effects over the long-term because we simply don’t understand enough about each complex chemical that goes into their composition and even how they are sourced and treated that can lead to adverse outcomes.
But many traditional/ ancient cultures have observational medicines and techniques that are far older and have been followed for thousands of years. These tend to be herbal with comparatively lower scope of side effects unless you abuse them.
I find Dr. Ellie’s experience useful but I also take it with a pinch of salt because she is a representative of a system of medicine that is far younger and not as well understood as it claims to be.
I will use toothpaste with xylitol, but I will also maintain herbal/ ayurvedic remedies such as bi-annual weeks of oil pulling and chewing clove and fennel daily that not only help you with bad breath and oral pain but help in digestion too.
I heard of oil pulling and other people talking about it at a seminar at a health food store. Aren't the oils used in oil pulling too acidic for the teeth and gums, which was the cause of gum and teeth problems in the first place? I think Dr. Ellie does not condone or promote oil pulling.
Hey I can see the response is pretty strong, I do watch your videos but there are things I do agree with. Such as the over use of mouthwash, (which like you say will mess with your bacteria for sure) never using floss. I’m In the middle I don’t think it’s needed everyday but not that it should not be used. and a big one I kinda disagree with is the talking against dental cleanings.
-although I do agree maybe getting them very often is over doing, I think it should be done, there’s nothing like a good dental cleaning
One point he makes is that you have to buy her complete system from her for $98 and it will cost you $500/mouth. False!! She points out that you can buy the products, which she clearly shows in her website or videos, from any pharmacy or Target. I did exactly that and my cost was under $20. I’ve been following her free videos for instructions for about a month. Awesome!
I wish I had known about Dr Ellie 70 years ago because traditional American Dental Association recommendations, which I followed religiously for my whole life, has led to cavities, extraction, implants, root canals and major expense!
She is great!
Great video. What do you think about her claim that you can grow your receding gums back. Thanks!
The only thing I see different is the extra mouthwash closys and the zelly's but there's a lot of studies on Xylitol. Other than that everybody still buys toothpaste and still buys mouthwash and needs to change their toothbrushes and sometimes they're told to do the act at night so I don't see a difference in the regular routine everyone's taught except for those two extra expenses
I just started watching a few of her videos a few weeks ago, then came across yours. I don't think you were fair to her. There is one video that was the second video I watched, and it was over an hour long, and covered her "complete mouthcare system."
So you don't have to pay. I believe she names the bad bacteria (strep something?) and she also covers the fact that listerine doesn't kill all bacteria. I have not heard an explanation on why the alcohol doesn't kill it all, but the claim from listerine seems to be in line with her claim - it kills the bad breath bacteria and plaque bacteria.
But what prompted me to comment is your clip of her saying if you don't follow the system you should get a cleaning. She's not saying ONLY her way will work... that's backwards logic (affirming the consequent fallacy). She's just saying you don't need to get a dental cleaning if you have good mouth-health, and her point is, if you follow what she says you definitely WILL be in that category, so she can confidently say everyone following her system don't need cleanings. You seem to agree with her because you say it's a bit extreme/overkill. But she is not claiming that other systems don't work, or even that there are other systems that could avoid dental cleanings. Maybe there's more to the context that you cut, but I've never seen her trash on other systems. Unless the other system is don't take care of your teeth, let your dentist take care of them every 6 months. But we all agree that's trash.
She has done the research dude. She gives you the process and the names of the products she recommends. You do not have to buy anything from Amazon if you don’t want to. It can all be purchased at Walmart or Target and she doesn’t get a kickback. The books are additional information that you do not need to start her dental system. Her utube videos are free and very informative. I have purchased all the products she recommended and I may have spent $20. I didn’t buy her xylitol mints, I purchased a less expensive brand. So far her system is easy and has definitely made o difference in my teeth in one week. You have gone down the wrong rabbit hole and your assessment of her is definitely flawed and without merit.
wow. thanks for doing all the work.
Paul,
Can you send me a link where I can buy your Xylitol please. I plan to try dr Ellie Philips too if I can buy her Xylitol separately but if you send me a link, I can get started.
I cannot give you any links because it would be different for every country. I would recommend getting your hands on Xylitol Crystals instead of the gum. You can get it in any health store as it is a sugar substitute. It is what I currently use on a daily basis. It is cheaper and imo as good if not better than gums. I talk about it more over here: ua-cam.com/video/ym7uq6mSyxM/v-deo.html
When you say it’s a sugar substitute, can you confirm that it’s not an artificial sweetener like aspartame or any other artificial sweetener as they are bad.
Xylitol is a natural sweetener that is derived from corn and birch trees. It being a "natural" sweetener doesn't make it healthy for you either, since over consumption of it has shown to be bad for you too. So if you use it for oral hygiene purposes (and not consumption), then you should be fine. Of course like any new thing, tread carefully and monitor to see how/if your body reacts to it.
Yes ! Saliva . Think of it as neutral saliva. Think about body diseases as lymph blockages that needs to flow.
Water pics are fantastic by the way! Especially using different essential oils
I do love your videos, you have had a very holistic approach to Dr. Elli's methods and I love there are people like you, thinking like me.
But for people like me with nearly 50 years old, a daughter of 6 and a lot of problems with the carbohydrates,I am going to use her methods to check if it works with my gums.
Thank you for your meticulous and sensitive analysis of her videos.
Appreciate the comment and it's never too late to begin a new routine to improve one's life. Good luck with your own experiments. Do let us know how it goes if you feel like it, cheers :D
Can anyone give me advice?i dont know if i should pay for her online boothcamp,or if i could buy the products and try them by watching her youtube videos....i dont have enough money
Also,what she doesnt mention is that a big big part of the re-mineralization process,which happens with the help of our saliva - means out gut health needs to be good,our vitamin D needs to be good,because our sliva gets these minerals from our bloodstream,and our teeth are made out of bones,so its important to have enough nutrients that build bones (calcium,and other),vitamin D plays a key in absorbing these into the body,and if you have gut issues that might cause your body to not be able to absorb these.
You can do the system without the bootcamp. All the info is available on her youtube channel. Best move I ever made...
@@smolsmol1159 wheatgrass, haven’t tried it yet but heard abt it & gonna try it
swish wheatgrass
A good balanced review. Personally, I don't like that she pushed sponsored fluoride-based Colgate toothpaste and Listerine alcohol-based mouthwashes. I'm on board with the idea that xylitol can help.
I recommend reading "Cure tooth decay" by Ramiel Nagel, who takes on a holistic approach to oral health. He also has some UA-cam videos. Unfortunately, he died in 2017 of a rare brain stem tumor.
Thank you for the reference to Ramiel Nagel. I'm going to check out his material.
Hey I know this is out-topic... May I know the name of your eyeglasses frame?
No worries, they are really great frames!
Google "PRADA VPS 04H" and you will find em. I have had them for like 5 years and even changed the lenses last year (due to scratches on a coating), which really speaks to the durability and quality of these slim looking frames :D
This was an excellent review. I just discovered your channel today when I was looking into xylitol. I like your approach to be as informative and honest as you can. It's greatly appreciated. I'm looking forward to more videos from you in the future. Have a wonderful night!
Glad you like the content and you appreciate me? **Uno reverse card** No I appreciate you and your comment! Cheers :D
I watched a presentation that stated that studies are very unreliable . Just saying . Another done by Paul Smaldino also says the peer reviewers would need to read 300 pages and other points to consider regarding studies
Please share the degree of the studies you cite/ reference. A study can be 5 people of 5000. It can be high or low quality. It can be financed by biased interests. It is considered poor reporting/ journalism to not include these types of information.
A quick update with the Paywalling Knowledge section. In the signup email, there IS a link to a PDF that explains the process in detail (You can see the link if you pause the video at 4:03). So you can still learn about the system without spending money (just at the low cost of your email deets!).
Or you can watch for free on youtube. She also says any xylitol mints will work.
May I know what you think about Dentite Tooth Armor by Medicinal Foods? Would like your input before I purchase.
Very poor review with little understanding of her method. Either the biochemistry of the mouth and analysis is correct or not. Why do you think most dentists recommend ACT, closys and flouride toothpaste? Her system is more thorough and based on many years of experience. She has no incentive to make money. My wife and I have been on the system for over 6 months and the results are amazing. It does not cost $500.00!!! Spend $20 at walmart and you have enough for 3 or more months. What do you think a cleaning costs? $150.00; special mouth washes and toothpaste? Anyone reading this who doubts can spend an hour watching Dr. Ellie on youTube. She is an amazing dentist who cares for her patients! I live in Chapel Hill NC, home of one of the top dental schools in the world. Master of Everyday Living is a joke.
I just have to poke some holes in this comment because it just makes me chuckle on so many levels...
- Most dentists recommend ACT, Closys and Flouride toothpaste? They might be recommended by the ADA but they aren't recommended by every dentist. These are things that Dr. Ellie found that worked well with her patients and there is a reason why her system with Xylitol and a rigid set of products is having success over what most dentists recommend.
- She has no incentive to make money? When a core part of your system is Xylitol gum and mints and you make and promote a product (Zellie's) for those purposes, you are now a business and have an incentive to grow and promote that business. Making money is OKAY, there is nothing wrong with that but saying that there are no incentives is just ignorant.
- I would love to see how you are following her system for $20 for 3 months when the Xylitol gums on their own exceed that price for 3 months. Feel free to do a cost breakdown and prove me wrong. I also want to mention that not everyone lives in the US so getting hands on these products are even harder/more expensive in other countries.
A detailed breakdown was done in another comment with US pricing.
32 oz bottle of closys ultra sensitive rinse (should last 1 month)11.38
Crest original five 8 0z tubes (should last at least 6 months) 14.99 (2.50 per month)
50 oz Cool mint listerine (should last 2 months) 7.99 (3.99 month)
Act mint zero alcohol fluoride rinse pack of four, (should last 2 months) 21.99 (10.99 per month)
large bag of zellie xylitol mints 540 mints (should last 3.5 months) 28.50 (8.14 per month)
= ~$37USD /month (or $444 USD / year) if you buy everything at these prices.
I live in Canada so the same products will cost me $950 CDN / $700 USD / year.
- Comparing it to expensive cleaning costs does not change the fact that it is around $500 / year / person to follow her specific system.
- Great, you live close to some top dental schools, what does that add to the conversation? I live in Toronto close to a really great pizza place, does that make my thought on pizza any more valuable? Also, Dr Ellie and her system is going AGAINST the grain of traditional dentistry recommendations so your random location flex is moot.
- One can care for ones patients, be a good dentist and also have all the pointers above be true. No need to virtue signal.
At the end of the day, you can attack me with petty words and be ignorant to reality but any rational person can look up things for themselves (which I hope people will do).
good evaluation and very informative. Thanks a lot Paul. Oil pulling and xylitol seems good started with these again. I wonder if xylitol gum is the best way to mineralise enamel or if other ways with oils and minerals powder is something...
Your own saliva is how xylitol helps to mineralize teeth - just have the xylitol and then wait 1-2 hours for this stimulated saliva to mineralize your teeth.
I have to disagree with your assessment of her system. It is not expensive as going to the dentist for bone grafts and laser treatments. I much prefer to do this simple routine to improve my dental health.
I think you missed the point a bit about good & bad bacteria. Not just neutral saliva -it works with your gut micro ion.
I think maybe part of her deal is that if you even do half of what she recommends you're still going to be ahead of the game. The way she does tell you that it's your fault kind of reminds me of AA. 😆
This is Ellie and I am adamant ...why? because using the strategies in the specific way is the only way I know that you will overcome dental issues.
If I knew of a simpler way that worked - of course, I would suggest it.
I'm curious if you have any background in science? I'm asking because:
A. there were quite a few misleading claims in this video about Dr. Ellie (which others have already pointed out), and
B. the studies you used to debunk her claims were taken by you as gospel without any attempt to look at how the studies were conducted.
People who watch TV a lot probably also lead sedentary lives and are couch potatoes, that does not mean that watching TV causes people to gain weight, no matter how many studies show correlation between the two.
Dr. Ellie's claim is that the state of your biofilm and the pH of your saliva are two things that have direct link to your oral health, so addressing your oral health will have to take care of those first and foremost. This does not imply that co-relation does not exist between people's brushing habits (in terms of force, duration, etc) and other aspects of their oral hygiene such that people who have shit brushing habits might also have overall shit oral hygiene and therefore are prone to all kinds of oral distress. Co-relation between those brushing habits and oral distress does not debunk her claims. This is not saying her claim could not still be debunked, but you have not done the debunking.
I watched this video because I'm considering starting her routine (without having paid, or requiring to pay a penny to her) and wanted to get a more well-rounded view of her from other people i.e. I was specifically looking for criticism to inform my view and yet what a disappointment this inept, rather ignorant critique was.
Hi Paul! I really appreciate the time and effort to give an unbiased, personal, end user opinion. I've been watching Dr. Ellie's system and also your posts on oil pulling and xylitol for several months and decided to try Dr. Ellie's protocol. After 2 months my teeth felt and looked great! HOWEVER, I started to get multiple canker sores. I have had them on and off all my life and I have found that, yes there are times that stress can bring them on but generally, I can usually pinpoint it to certain foods or oral supplements that have additives. It could possibly be in connection with stomach acids and or allergies. I am always looking for alternatives to sugar because of weight and diabetes. I found that I actually like Stevia more than sugar. But not all Stevia is pure. Most of the commercial brands have Erythritol. By process of elimination I found out that pure stevia works fine but I break out with any Erythritol. Well same thing happened with the Xylitol. I even wrote Dr. Ellie asking for an alternative. I received a reply that I am most probably not doing the protocol correctly. I was asked for a photo of my routine products and never got another reply. I also found out that studies have shown both Xylitol and Erythritol are good for oral health with Erythritol coming out ahead of Xylitol even. The bad news is that they have been known to trigger canker sores in people who have that inherited trait. Oh well. 😢. I am also predisposed to gum disease by heredity on both sides of my family. Im 62 and have pockets often now and had to get a bone graft. Diabetes and weight issues as well.
I also have an issue with the listerine not making any sense. Yes I do grind my teeth and actually broke one and yes i was told I brush too hard and used to stop using the sonicare toothbrush a while ago. So while there is definitely something positive to the usage of Xylitol for most people, I cant use Erythritol and/or Xylitol, or several other sugar alcohols ( both are sugar alcohols) because of other adverse reactions😔
I appreciate you sharing your experience and it's too bad that you are getting canker sores from it.
Something that I have been doing that has lessened the intensity of the Erythritol where I still think I get the benefits from it is to add it to my oil pulling session. That gives me none of the bad side-effects that I had trying Erythritol on its own. Perhaps this could be something you try with Xylitol. Add some Xylitol to coconut/sesame seed oil, then swish it around for a few minutes following by spitting it out into the green/organics bin (since excess oil might clog up water pipes).
Keep exploring and finding what works for you. There really is no silver bullet to one's individual oral hygiene issues. Good luck!
I appreciate your research but I disagree with your overall score for her, because In her case "the good" far outweighs "the bad", and she's clearly not motivated by financial gains. I've learned her complete system on UA-cam, for free.
People who snack all day probably need the products . People who don’t live to eat, but only eat to live, might have better teeth .
I have been trying to find an email for Dr Ellie Phillips, but so far I have not been successfull. I want send her an article recently posted on CityNews, June 11,2024. This article reveals information about a study conducted at The Center for Cardiovascular Diagnostic and Prevention at the Cleveland Clinic, which linked Xylitol to an increase chance of heart attacks and strokes.
I woud like to hear Dr Phillips opinion about tnis recent study.
I would also like to hear her opinion. On the face of it my opinion is that the finding seems a bit odd in that xylitol has been around so long and used in baking,which is gonna give you a high dose. Her 7 gram a day suggestion seems miniscule compared to eating a xylitol cake. Anyway, I find it hard to believe a link had never been investigated till now.
The study was not about dietary intake of xylitol. It looked at levels in the blood after a fasted state. Your body naturally produces xylitol. The study was NOT about 10 grams of xylitol a day from gum or mints. The study focused on really high levels of xylitol being used as a sugar substitute.
Hundreds of ways to achieve good dental health! Yep her system! it’s pushed like a religion , people overthink things. How about keeping your mouth clean like most of the time like with that stuff called H2O and then probably most important thing is nutrition, but her system is probably very good for people that have neglected their teeth for a long time
I bet you didn’t expect the very protective & loyal, Dr Ellie army, when you posted this video!! Lolololol
I don’t understand your point about Dr Ellie promoting other products?? That makes no sense. She has a unique system, that deviates from the norm, that’s the whole point?! Why would she promote other systems? Hmmm
Very well said!! I tried her routine for a short while, and with some research discovered there are serious problems with the products she recommends. For example, mouthwash can cause high blood pressure. I hope you’ll eventually do a video on nano hydroxyapatite.
One thing that really does concern me about her system is her preaching against flossing. Many who have bad oral health did not floss and regular flossing might help mitigate if not fix some of the problems. The reasons she gives for not flossing are not of a higher benefit than the risk of avoiding flossing. As a dentist she should know better on that one. Since many of the people trying her system are in desperate need, and therefore vulnerable, it is all the more dangerous since they are more likely to take that anti-flossing approach seriously.
The second concern I have is that the ACT fluoride mouthwash she recommends says on the bottle to do once daily. She recommends twice daily. Those instructions on the bottle are sometimes for safety reasons, and so she should be clarifying why she is recommending more than the company itself and why it is not a danger to do so. Because if something happens, the mouthwash company can simply say that the person did not follow the instructions - the cause of most over-the-counter medication problems.
She claims listerine does the same thing or I think she said possibly a little better. Personally I use a water flosser which she also is against.
@@SynthVGguitarist Yes exactly. And she is wrong since the mouthwash company itself even says that it is only an addition to flossing and brushing.
USian, more cavities than average as I was a stubborn little guy...
I've got moderate gum erosion and min/mod gingavitis with most pockets around 2, with several 3-4s on all quads.
Once I started flossing regularly a year or two ago, it was clear from the charting/recording they do measuring gum pocket depth that all of them were starting to lessen and were mostly cluster around 2 with only a couple 3's.
Thats actual proof that the flossing was helping reduce my gingavitis, and oral health was significantly improving.
I was using a water pik also, which seemed to work as well as flossing just easier. If I'd known about Xylitol at the time I'd have added it, but I was already adding a bit of listerine or chlorhexidine.
The Dr. is making bank off her own products, and getting some sort of commission from the other products she is endorsing.
Not a problem per se, however her paywalling sure does bely any expression of 'wanting to help people'.
Seems like just another marketing scheme using an actual Dr. as spokeswoman vs some As Seen On TV spokesman of old.
@@boots7859 I haven't been hampered by her "pay wall" as mentioned in this guy's video. I purchase all the products either from Walmart or drug store and Amazon for very cheap. Dr Ellie has a lengthy video on UA-cam about how to use her mouth care system. Additionally, one can download and print a paper telling what to use and when and how off the Google internet. So, his facts aren't completely not factual. Also, if you want to purchase her brand xylitol mints/ gums, it's available on Amazon. I use her system and I'm not in a vulnerable nor desperate situation. My mouth/teeth and gums are in very good condition and teeth always feel clean and smooth since using her complete mouth care system since February 2024. Also, toothpaste she recommends can be purchased at Walmart or drug store or supermarket. The toothbrushes she recommends can be purchased at some stores but for sure on Amazon. Don't see how she profits off the items if I'm buying them the way I mentioned with exception of the gum or mints. Just was hoping for better factual information and more of a commitment to true research than this video he did. I'm disappointed 😞.
Shouldn’t be giving dental advice or your opinions on a REAL dentist when you don’t know the rationale behind it AND you never attended dental school. This is the equivalent of patients googling their symptoms and self diagnosing themselves. I NEVER paid $500. The entire rationale in video format is FREE on UA-cam . Maybe you should watch it.
When I look at Dr Ellie, I think xylitol does wonders for teeth, but not so much for skin….. I didn’t mean ……
She just old. She looks good for her age.
So weird, I ran across your original pulling video, then Dr. Ellie's, then later your update, recently another of Dr. Ellies, and then this.....
Can't wait to see what your findings are. Keep doing what you're doing, hope you get lots of subs for the quality science.
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Finished, and totally agree with you on the approach and paywall marketing she is using raises my spidey sense.
I just wonder how much money she's getting from those companies that she pushes their products
@@utahboxergirl11 I have ZERO sponsorship from ANY of the product companies. I have paid retail for the products put into the kit. Not a single company is interested in what I am doing. Dr. Ellie
@@utahboxergirl11 Want to chime in here that the answer is NONE.
I have promoted the same system for over 50 years - ever since I began looking for a solution to extraction of teeth for my Mom.
I have stuck faithfully to these products - year after year - only adding the Mouthwathcers toothbrushes in the past 10 years or so.
Not a SINGLE company has ever contacted me - not even the little ones like Closys or Mouthwatchers - to even say "thank you".
Never - not one dime - ever.
Just so you know.
I have done the Ellie Phillips complete care system. My teeth are now so sensitive after 7 months of doing her complete care system. I’m devastated. I can’t even brush now and I don’t know what to do
There might be one culprit within her system that might not work for you so perhaps trying to isolate the products within the system and find the problematic one. So perhaps just start off using Xylitol, then after a week or so if sensitivity is down, add another part of the system to your weekly routine and so on until you find the issue.
Make sure to not throw out the baby with the bathwater. Good luck with finding the source of your sensitivity!
It seems Dr Ellie’s main aim is to line her own pockets than to truly improve the dental health of the nation…Dr Mark Burnhenne’s assessment of dr Ellie’s protocol. The only thing he concurs with her on is the use of xylitol
I v been reading through the comments and dude you picked the wrong topic to do your ‘research’ on lol!! I m poking fun at you cause it’s quite obvious that you didn’t put a lot into this but kudos to you for stirring up a bees nest and having the truth come out by so many of us posting our own experiences. You may want to think about doing a redaction video 😂
10:12 You state that Dr Ellie recommends alcohol mouthwashes. Perhaps you have misspoken… she repeatedly says to use NON-alcohol mouthwashes/rinses.
Listerine is 27% alcohol.
I have watched her video on the total system many times and I dont think you have. There are so many people giving testimonials of great results there is no question she knows what she is talking about - yes her complete mouth care system works! and yes it is her way of doing things - she knows the chemistry behind it, did you listen to her life story? you have no scientific background? like what? I learned nothing here from you except you are embarrassing yourself big time. is this your job?
I don’t think he embarrassed his elf at all.
May try going to dentist and ask for a free visit and give reply to this one comment, you need to research more on dental health bro before you make such bold criticisms without amy medical background.
We can’t trust the medical/dental profession any more. We need people like Paul.
You just lost all credibility , and wasted my time. Untrue and very disingenuous . Dr. Ellie is NOT in it for profit. Shame on you.
I agree with you as well.
I don’t agree with you. I think he was clear and fair. I also like Dr Ellie’s video and she was professional when thanking him for his criticism in her comment above. I tho k it is good to have open discussions/criticism - I welcome it. It should all be about making money, there is so much information out there and profit making, people don’t know what’s best to do. Dr Ellie and this man’s video have both helped me. I am surprised Dr Ellie is promoting mouth wash because they are bad for you. They a chemically based and not natural. A salt water rise would be better. Anything pharmaceutical cased is questionable. My daughters teeth was stained baby by mouth wash. I would like to try Dr Ellie’s Xylitol but not the pharmaceutical tooth paste or mouth wash. My confidence in the medical profession and pharmaceutical products has gone. Even more so since Covid and the pushing if the Covid vaccine and the vaccine programme whilst at the same time having to access to doctors and dentist. The medical profession has went down in my estimation.
I appreciate your comment.
Dr. Ellie's followers behave like a cult.
Mouthwash, such as Listerine, raises blood pressure.
I saw a video with Dr. Mark Burhenne's views on oral health and was impressed.
I don't think there's a "cult". People are just appreciative.
And, BTW, Dr. Mark is very aggressively promoting his products, while Dr. Ellie is not.
He publicly attacked her, so he's far from being some "nice" guy...
Please! Are you that gullible?
You can buy the products yourself without the kit.
On your bad section, you say that she gatekeeps the info, which is not true. I've never signed up for a newsletter or any of the marketing lists and have never bought the book. The content is free on her UA-cam channel across a few videos.
It's also odd that you put her monetization efforts in a negative light, but then you shill Ko-Fi memberships -- selling things you believe in is not inherently evil and you know this, but you shame Dr. Ellie for the same thing you're doing.
16:02 - again you really harp on paywalling knowledge when she lists exactly what you need to buy and that anyone can easily buy it at their local grocery store (if they're in the US). You're nitpicking on the idea that you need to sign up for things or buy her books/courses, which just isn't true. If someone resides outside of the US and those products in their country, then yes, they probably would need to buy her system from her if they want the recommended products.
I've bought every piece of the system completely on my own at my local retailers and have received that information from watching her content for free on UA-cam without giving her my email or paying her a dime.
There is gatekeeping through convenience. So you can dig through her UA-cam channel, spend hours watching her videos and patch together how to use her complete mouth care system OR you can buy her book/sign up for the course or e-book to get a complete step by step cohesive summary of in 30min.
Comparing a Ko-Fi page that gives videos a day early and channel updates is just not the same type of gatekeeping and you know it. If I was sharing fragments of my knowledge on UA-cam and paywalling a summarized and simplified version behind Ko-Fi/email signup/product/membership then that would be equivalent.
Listing exactly what items to buy (on drellie.com/complete-mouth-care-system/) but not having the information on HOW to use it is exactly the problem. So you can see her product recommendations but you need to spend time (youtube videos), money (book/bootcamp) or personal information (email signup for guide) to then learn how to use the products. It's like selling someone a disassembled IKEA bed without the assembly instructions.
I also don't think monetizing something you believe in is bad. Not sure where you got that impression from.
Also x2, surprise! I don't live in the US. I guess that is something I need to disclose more often as I never thought people would see my videos purely from a US perspective.
Quote master everyday living" good idea. Maybe you should try that. Okay so you can Google. What qualifications do you have to critique a dentist who has been doing this and studying dentistry for probably longer than you've been alive. She explains in her UA-cam video her entire system for free. So no you don't have to pay for it and she is also not trying to sell you her own products just to make money. She is recommending everyday products that are not very expensive along with one product that she created because there aren't very many good products like it on the market so it's kind of in demand and I'm grateful that she created them. She knows what she is talking about and you are just making a video for likes and views and insinuating shes a quack with your Google research partial knowledge And twisting facts to slant the story against her. For some reason. I know by seeing this first video of yours I do not like you and I will not watch any more of your videos. I don't even like to give you the interaction point for commenting But I wanted to voice voice. How against you and channels like yours? I am. Putting out misinformation or just trying to find faults in other people's content because you can't make anything novel or helpful yourself.