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I would be going for this if I hadnt got a X670E Asus Crosshair hero and paid a lot more for it getting close to 2 years ago now the Gigabyte looks like a better price
Thanks for taking the time to remove all the heatsinks and stuff off the motherboard. Its good to see it without all the bits that hide the actual board.
you just got to love this channel, clear, concise, simple to understand, key information only, good pros and cons, this video just made my next motherboard choice simple., as always, THANK YOU
After having a Dead Strix 870E mobo (code 0d, dead mobo) and broken TUF board delivered, I went with this motherboard. Easiest build yet, it just worked! 9900x, 64GB of T-Create 6000MT's, and 4080 Super. It has been a very strong board as I have pushed it on stress tests and found a split second it bounced up to 5.9Ghz in a Cinebench 23 test. Thanks for your review to get this one out there. GREAT BOARD.
Just found the channel, what a refreshing change to the usual style of presentation. This looks like a great motherboard for the price. I didn't expect to be able to afford such a well featured board.
you are the first person to put something up about this board that tells me what i need to know. Thank you! It should do well with a 9700x or a future 9800x3d and a ton of m.2 storage. I am curious however. For its aesthetics does it have rgb under the top IO cover where is says Aorus?
Haven't yet felt the need to jump to AM5 yet. Still happy on AM4, but I'm very happy with Gigabyte's stuff. I normally go for MSI boards but in wanting to do an Intel build (as I hadn't done one for years) I was actually very impressed with the Z790 Aorus Elite for feature set - just recently added the Thunderbolt 4 card and it works a charm. If and when I do go for AM5 I will definitely go for the X3D and this board.
As a Canadian, I always appreciate the understated British humour. In this case you had me with the wi-fi antenna: "...It also unplugs." Spot on. Edit: The bottom slot on the 870E is also Gen 3 x4 not Gen 3 x2 (thank the second chipset). As well, yes, PCIe slots are useful for U.2 drive adapter expansion cards, properly high-speed network cards, a multitude of pro A/V cards, etc., etc. It's actually brutal ATX boards by most manufacturers have lost PCIe slots (Gigabyte being a notable exception). If you don't like the slots get a more affordable mATX board perhaps?
Just got the board delivered today.. Nice to get a review on the same day. One of the reason for purchase was because of the pcie slots though, since I want to put a 10gig nic in it. So yes there is a use case for those x4(x16) slots ;). Now just waiting for 9800x3d to be released.
There's a lot of comparisons to the ASRock Nova in the comments. You have to decide which is more important to you. Having full PCIe 5.0 x16, but only one M.2 connected directly to the CPU in the case of the Nova. Or three M.2 connected to the CPU directly with this board, and the PCIe 5.0 running at x8 if more than one is used. No GPU planned is using full PCIe 5.0 x16, and this board still has an additional M.2 on the chipset, if you want to run full x16 and have two M.2. The Nova is not better by default, this is a Chipset / CPU lane limitation either way.
@vqa33 M.2 to CPU is less latency. More PCB layers is usually only to prevent signal interference, which depends on efficiency of trace routing. ASRock may have needed 8 or simple added for "extreme" OC of memory, which most do not do. All boards share lanes between PCIe and storage. Here it's the same, but with the Gigabyte board you have the option to have an additional 2 M.2 directly to the CPU, the ASRock does not.
I just don't like the GPU lane sharing and having a lot of USB 2.0 for a "new and improved" MB. I feel that it is better to buy a good x670e and just update/flash bios or just buy the AsRock x870e Nova if it is not out of stock (currently out of stock).
I was looking at the ASROCK X870 Nova - I wish Leo would look at some ASROCK boards, they are such good value. I just dont know if their bioses are any good and if they are stable.
there are bunch of stuff that doesn't require huge speed and without any issue on USB 2.0 such as peripherals. It is better to have such stuff for those things.
for all high end OC boards , wish they gave : - ram fan cooling bracket for those high end OC settings plus small size 10mm thick fans like the noctua ones or some way to cool the ram without interference with cpu heatsink - longer wifi antennas - dual bios - cmos reset switch - cpu contact frame for better thermals and protection of the cpu bending issue + a proper hex torque wrench for that ilm frame screws - rgb remote control - sophisticated 12V and 5V sata powered fan hub with 10 ports each for PWM and rgb - m.2 expansion card - include a bunch of PWM extension cables - PTM 7950 thermal pad - two ps2 ports for no frills connectivity for mouse+kb while in bios - marking on the usb headers which have direct connectivity lanes to cpu for that low latency IO devices like mouse + kb for gaming - some replica of asus nitro path
It’s nice they have added some vents into the rear Io panel but really that whole area needs a bit of a redesign. It’s very busy and congested with all those ports shoved into it nowadays.
Thanks Leo, was a good video. learned a good bit about the platform too. Who on earth thought that SNATCH was a good name for anything in the tech sector? hilarious
I'm a big fan of these X870/870E Gigabyte boards overall, Had great success with X570 Aorus Master board and B650i using right now for 7950X-3D mini itx. The other X870E board that interest me for the quality and feature set is the ASUS ProArt board.
I believe you forgot to mention that the CPU socket has a reinforced backing plate, as well as the graphics card slot, I have this board and along with the pushbutton pcie release and the tool free drive access, with a 7900 XTX I really appreciate the extra rigidity of the reinforced slot. I've tortured this board for a month or so and its stable as a rock.... I was gonna say the software wasn't up to date but while watching this video I see there is a new bios, control center and several other drivers I guess I'll update it as I don't see AI snatch anywhere hehe, it also has several spots on board including in back with rgb built into it...... Super Solid MB imho for the price!
@KitGuruTech i can confirm the new bios did then trigger gigabyte control center to update all drivers and install AI Snatch, it's working fluid n fast DDR5 6000 at EXPO 1 CL30...7900xtx and 9700x ( 7800x3d sold out), primary cached gen 5 system drive and backups in 2 and 4....all TB....working a mint !!! For the price I don't think I could have chose better, I'll be using the USB 4 eventually!
This board might even be considered budget by some, especially when the MSI Godlike and ASUS Maximus are priced between £700+. - £1300. Crazy prices in 2024
This really is a great board - very well balanced and not compromised - just a small accessory pack with it. Are those VRMs any good ? how are they rated? I dont understand that side of things very well.
Good review Leo - price point seems good, but last Gigabyte board I had was very poor, had a lot of hard locks. sent it back and got a ROG board, much better
I almost regret having just bought the MSI Carbon, but not quite. I may have a use for the PCIe x4 slot: a Blackmagic Decklink card. That aside there's not much in it.
I reviewed the Carbon WiFi and gave it 9 out of 10 where this Aorus Elite gets 8.5. I haven't reviewed the Asus. Take price out of the equation and the Carbon WiFi wins for sure. leo
Thanks for a great review! I am thinking of getting this motherboard or its "Pro" variant, as it has a bit better VRMs. The thing I don't really like is that if you use any of those Gen 5 m.2 slots, the primary slot drops down to x8 mode. That's plenty of bandwidth for the majority of graphics cards nowadays, especially the new ones that are about to come out, but it's something to keep in mind as a buyer. Again, thanks for a great review!
I am planing to get a 5090 next year so that's actually a bit of a concern, are you saying if I ran a PCI 5 m.2 my 5090 has it's bandwidth slashed in half?
@@deloford All gigabyte motherboards with x870e chipset function this way (yes, even the Master), but this only applies to two m.2 5.0 slots beneath the pcie x16 slot. Using the one above it will not affect the bandwidth. When it came to current generation boards and GPUs on pcie gen 4, a 4090 saw almost no bottleneck when used in slots running in x8 mode. Since pcie gen 5 is double the bandwidth of gen 4, I doubt it will see any bottleneck when the primary slot is running in x8 mode. I hope this helps.
That seems like a fair rating for a very good mid range board. The only board I had listed above it is the asrock gaming phantom nova 870e. Gives you pretty much everything the tachi has but at a cheaper price. I really like that the primary m.2 does not share lanes with the pcie1 16 slot for the gpu.
I went with the aorus pro ice x870e because it's by far the best looking white board on the market. And I'm not dumb enough to think 5.0 8x is really going to drop performance by more than 10-15 frames even on a 5090 if I want a few more SSD's.
This is what I'm planning to use with a 9800X3D. Do I HAVE to update the BIOS before booting into windows? (I've got enough memory sticks round here that I'm losing track of as it is :P )
The MSI MPG X970E Carbon WiFi referred to in this video scored better but costs a chunk more www.kitguru.net/components/motherboard/leo-waldock/msi-mpg-x870e-carbon-wifi-review
Micro Center is offering a bundle w/ the 7950x3d, I've been wondering if it's worth pulling the trigger. I don't like how the PCIe x16 slot shares bandwith w/ two of the M.2 slots though, but I've read that supposedly it won't affect GPU performance much, but not sure what the reality is.
I bought that bundle a few weeks ago and haven't opened it yet. Trying to see if I should take it back based on the reviews of the 9800x3D. If that chip isn't much faster than the 7950x3D I'll keep it and start building.
@@Kwincy5 Careful, you may not be able to bring it back if it's been 15 days since you purchased, I believe I was told return policy for cpu and mobo is 15 days.
I got one of those by default, my ASUS TUF B650 WiFi board died after 8 months, ongoing issue with ASUS. I decided I had enough of ASUS, so I decided to jump ship with Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite WiFi7. Really nice, lots of features and temperatures on the CPU also greatly reduced. The price is not that much more than regular B650 main board. I have the RealTek version. Thumbs up from me :)
Hoping they release a similar speced matx board with B850 later this year. Wish the we'd get more POST troubleshooting LEDs (88-digit leds) on midrange boards. Looked at their B650M Aurous Elite and I couldn't find even find a single LED for troubleshooting. That doesn't seem very elite, but maybe they like getting boards back as defect claims 😂
LOL - whom uses SATA based 2.5" drives these days - well, I do. My NAS is full of them, my main PC has 4 of them (plus an additional NVMe drive and (*GASP*) a DVD writer), etc, etc. Anyways, that's a solid looking board for the money - so I can safely move to having two NVMe drives with that board, keep 3 of the SATA drive's and the DVD writer. Def think it's a fair price, they made very good choices for trade offs.
The 2 pci-e slots may be basic but Gigabyte have at least fitted them, me I have a 10gbe and a capture card and it's extremely frustrating finding most motherboards have all their lanes allocated to m.2 slots.
Does USB4 works with thunderbolt 3 audio interfaces for studio? Cannot find any reliable data on internet. X870e does not have TB header on motherboard either like x670 had... Thanks for answering.
I've not had particularly good luck with Gigabyte products outside of mobo's, though from what I was looking at a few months ago on the E variants, this actually looks pretty reasonable versus everything else. At least two usable PCIe full x16 slots, lots of NVME lanes and a respectable backplate. ADD: For those of us running 5300RPM fans, yes, SATA slots do come in handy. 😁 As much as a bother as they are, nvme drives over 4tb aren't particularly plentiful or affordable, so mass storage still defaults to HDDs too.
Quite a few years back (think decades ago) Gigabyte had real quality problems with their motherboards. I can't remember the year, but they took up the issue at a management meeting and was seriously considering ditching the motherboards entirely as the RMA costs made them lose money on every sold MB. They decided to give it one last chance and this time the quality was supposed to be the primary when deciding on construction and choosing make and model of components rather than always go with the cheapest option. This was way before they "invented" the Aurous name, I would say it was more than a decade ago perhaps two. But the change was immediate. The motherboards they released after that cut down on the RMS cost by a lot, and suddenly they were making money on selling motherboards instead of losing money. AFAIK they've kept making decent motherboards since, instead of cutting corners until they fail often enough to cost them more money for the warranty replacements than they make selling them. All in all this doesn't really matter for customers today. I just think it's pretty interesting to know that once they were doing so bad that they were considering ditching the motherboard business.
@@blahorgaslisk7763 That sounds very accurate to my experience with the last GPU I got from them, back in the 280x era. While it never blew up like their power supply woes not too long ago, it overheated even with minimal tasks and would regularly self-destruct into Errorville in games. Between the 280x issue and their QA dipping lower on other product lines, I have been leery to pick up function-centric products from them, though I have eyeballed their TR40 boards numerous times. Good to know the effort is being made to improve!
@@RainOrbs Yeah, I've run into the m.2 downrating other lanes issue before, which was a particular draw to this generation of motherboard that was supposed to fix that (the X870E variants specifically). I've mostly decided to go X670E for half the price depending on the next variants of the X3D chips if the higher core counts (9900 or 9950s) get dual vcache allotments, otherwise the only other x870E boards that work for me are in the $500 range, which is just absurd to get bracketed into that segment for two features.
Gigabyte X870 Aorus Elite WiFi7 ICE (non -E Chipset) has exact the same features. The only notable difference is that it has only one USB3 header, which imo doesn't matter. And it's white. But it's also nearly 30€ cheaper. So if the color doesn't matter, it's the better choice.
Excellent review but I do wish you'd gone further and tested the fit of secondary expansion cards. I run 10 Gb networking so it's an immediate no-buy issue if a 4-slot GPU blocks that x4 slot. Or if using a card in that slot negatively affects the temperatures of a 4-slot GPU. BTW I class a budget board as under £100.
You would be lucky to get the box for £100 the way prices are in the last 12 months. I agree, I used to think that way too. but a budget board now seems closer to £200.
I've been thinking about just getting a 670e for my next build, but the easy installation features for m.2s and the release button for the graphics card may push me the other way. I tend to slowly upgrade my systems over time so those things add value. The BIOS looks really good. I can take or leave the usb4 or wifi 7 though.
I've had this board for 3 weeks and the only little complaint I have is the lane sharing and no clear cmos on the back. I've done some research, and it doesn't look like lowering the GPU bandwidth hurts too much if even at all for gaming. Looks like in most cases you might lose a couple of FPS which probably won't be noticeable. That being said, I have 3 of the M2 slots populated and everything has been smooth. 2 x gen 4 2tb and 1 4tb gen4 crucial.
That is an area that needs a redesign. It's absolutely full up of stuff now. Would be difficult to use all the ports at the same time given the amount of congestion going on there.
I am wondering about the In Out on the back where we use to have jacks for Sound, which seems to have changed, where there use to be different colored jacks for 5.1 audio, what is going on that these are now missing from the backs of many of the Mother boards.. I noticed that the asus Tuf board still has them, but most boards have gone away, what is the deal if you could let me know.. and or is there an audio interface which will allow someone to plug in their 5.1 jacks into it..
Can someone explain in TECHNICAL TERMS The differences between Gigabyte X870E Aorus PRO and Gigabyte X870E AORUS ELITE The price of the first one is 80-90€ for what exactly
Weird that thunderbolt never seemed to take off for a lot of pc makers, I heard the licensing fees were sky high, which is likely why, its always been a more elegant solution than USB
Hi! I bought the same motherboard. I was wondering where among the M.2 slots does 2280 ssd works? And also the wifi doesn't work even i downloaded driver for it. Tysm!!!
Gotta say thats a pretty sexy looking board too. not a cheap looking model. around 300 seems like a good price point for me, but I guess if you are buying the new 5090 then its ultra high end for you. or do people buying a 4090 or 5090 still buy a 300 motherboard?
@@boltsandbraces6261 x870e Nova wifi is the best value x870e board. Also, I plan to get the 5090 when it comes out. The Nova offered everything I needed for a fraction of the price of some of the expensive boards.
I was looking at the MSI X870 Tomahawk, which has 5G LAN. I only plan to use 2x m.2 4.0 SSDs, so there should be no lane problems. But I didn’t know mainboards would perform differently in benchmarks. How do the Gigabyte compare to the MSI? The price is very similar.
@lo0nyk On this board, you can run your primary M.2 and one on the chipset with no lane sharing. Your GPU is not using full PCIe 5.0 x16, nor will any in the near future. You can also attach additional M.2 via the PCIe 4.0 x16 on this board, without GPU lane sharing.
And yet, usualy 670 series frim Gigabyte had problems with bios and ddr stability. Does the new 870 series suffers the same? This is the only question that deserves an answer.
I am not liking the idea of the proprietary plugin Wi-Fi antenna. I replaced my stock one with one that was more stable than the cheap one that came with the motherboard and kept falling over. I was then also surprised by the stronger signal. This would only work for me if that plug could be adapted to another antenna.
Certainly not a bad board at all. However, I’m going to stick with the MSI Carbon. I like the slightly better build quality and features, as well as the bios. Plus, it’s a Leo 9/10 😂💯
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I would be going for this if I hadnt got a X670E Asus Crosshair hero and paid a lot more for it getting close to 2 years ago now the Gigabyte looks like a better price
what is differen between this and x870e pro?
Thanks for taking the time to remove all the heatsinks and stuff off the motherboard. Its good to see it without all the bits that hide the actual board.
no problem !
I agree I like seeing them stripped down and naked.
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you just got to love this channel, clear, concise, simple to understand, key information only, good pros and cons, this video just made my next motherboard choice simple., as always, THANK YOU
Thanks, appreciate it and glad we could help!
Plus a slight dash of dry English humour.😉
After having a Dead Strix 870E mobo (code 0d, dead mobo) and broken TUF board delivered, I went with this motherboard. Easiest build yet, it just worked! 9900x, 64GB of T-Create 6000MT's, and 4080 Super. It has been a very strong board as I have pushed it on stress tests and found a split second it bounced up to 5.9Ghz in a Cinebench 23 test. Thanks for your review to get this one out there. GREAT BOARD.
I have the X670 version and it's still going strong. Keep up the great work you guys and stay safe.
Thanks, you too!
Just found the channel, what a refreshing change to the usual style of presentation. This looks like a great motherboard for the price. I didn't expect to be able to afford such a well featured board.
Much appreciated!
Its well kitted out. I cant get over how expensive motherboards have gotten in the last year, its madness
Sadly almost everything is expensive this year.
@@gareos9bf This, want more then 4 SATA and 6 USB-A? That will be 500€ please.
£290 is very good in todays market. same price as a box of kelloggs crunchy nut cornflakes in tesco this week
😂Cereal for dinner - kellogs
Well, if they're offering, then yes - I'll have a look at their snatch.
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at least this time there was no need to flash bios for it to work nor any windows problems, happy times for Leo
Amazing that £300 now is almost seen as a budget board. How things have changed
By weight maybe things are ok. I just got an MSI Carbon and it weighs a ton compared to my old X470 board 🤪
Makes it even more logical to buy last gen
Nice to see the BIOS, a lot of videos never show the BIOS much or at all.
I like to see the BIOS its very annoying having a rubbish one. Only thing is they should be transparent to update.
They really improved on their bios.
Thanks for the detailed review, just got my board yesterday and planning to install the 9800x3D and Gigabyte 4080 Super. We'll see how that goes soon.
Competent and perfectly paced video. Great work
Much appreciated!
Super appreciate your coverage on motherboards!
Such an underrated piece of any build
ooo been looking at this board over the last 2 days for the 9800x3d great timing!
Just got the X870 Aurous Elite, It's on offer today on the big "Rainforest" retailers' black Friday deals.
you are the first person to put something up about this board that tells me what i need to know. Thank you! It should do well with a 9700x or a future 9800x3d and a ton of m.2 storage. I am curious however. For its aesthetics does it have rgb under the top IO cover where is says Aorus?
Glad I could help!
Haven't yet felt the need to jump to AM5 yet. Still happy on AM4, but I'm very happy with Gigabyte's stuff. I normally go for MSI boards but in wanting to do an Intel build (as I hadn't done one for years) I was actually very impressed with the Z790 Aorus Elite for feature set - just recently added the Thunderbolt 4 card and it works a charm. If and when I do go for AM5 I will definitely go for the X3D and this board.
This was a good board to review, its going to target a wide audience. When is the 9800X3D out? next week?
november 7th, in 2 days
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As a Canadian, I always appreciate the understated British humour. In this case you had me with the wi-fi antenna: "...It also unplugs." Spot on.
Edit: The bottom slot on the 870E is also Gen 3 x4 not Gen 3 x2 (thank the second chipset).
As well, yes, PCIe slots are useful for U.2 drive adapter expansion cards, properly high-speed network cards, a multitude of pro A/V cards, etc., etc. It's actually brutal ATX boards by most manufacturers have lost PCIe slots (Gigabyte being a notable exception). If you don't like the slots get a more affordable mATX board perhaps?
Just got the board delivered today.. Nice to get a review on the same day. One of the reason for purchase was because of the pcie slots though, since I want to put a 10gig nic in it. So yes there is a use case for those x4(x16) slots ;). Now just waiting for 9800x3d to be released.
A very nice and thorough review. I thank you for a job well done!
Thanks for watching!
There's a lot of comparisons to the ASRock Nova in the comments. You have to decide which is more important to you. Having full PCIe 5.0 x16, but only one M.2 connected directly to the CPU in the case of the Nova. Or three M.2 connected to the CPU directly with this board, and the PCIe 5.0 running at x8 if more than one is used. No GPU planned is using full PCIe 5.0 x16, and this board still has an additional M.2 on the chipset, if you want to run full x16 and have two M.2. The Nova is not better by default, this is a Chipset / CPU lane limitation either way.
Thanks for this useful comment! But what are the benefits of M2 connected directly to the CPU?
But nova has 8 layer PCB… :) while this card only 6…
I think it’s obvious that sharing lanes with M2 is much better than with GPU.
@vqa33 M.2 to CPU is less latency. More PCB layers is usually only to prevent signal interference, which depends on efficiency of trace routing. ASRock may have needed 8 or simple added for "extreme" OC of memory, which most do not do. All boards share lanes between PCIe and storage. Here it's the same, but with the Gigabyte board you have the option to have an additional 2 M.2 directly to the CPU, the ASRock does not.
@@drewnewby I’m going to buy X870 tomahawk anyway )) I also prefer avoid lane sharing with the gpu.
I just don't like the GPU lane sharing and having a lot of USB 2.0 for a "new and improved" MB. I feel that it is better to buy a good x670e and just update/flash bios or just buy the AsRock x870e Nova if it is not out of stock (currently out of stock).
I was looking at the ASROCK X870 Nova - I wish Leo would look at some ASROCK boards, they are such good value. I just dont know if their bioses are any good and if they are stable.
there are bunch of stuff that doesn't require huge speed and without any issue on USB 2.0 such as peripherals. It is better to have such stuff for those things.
for all high end OC boards , wish they gave :
- ram fan cooling bracket for those high end OC settings plus small size 10mm thick fans like the noctua ones or some way to cool the ram without interference with cpu heatsink
- longer wifi antennas
- dual bios
- cmos reset switch
- cpu contact frame for better thermals and protection of the cpu bending issue + a proper hex torque wrench for that ilm frame screws
- rgb remote control
- sophisticated 12V and 5V sata powered fan hub with 10 ports each for PWM and rgb
- m.2 expansion card
- include a bunch of PWM extension cables
- PTM 7950 thermal pad
- two ps2 ports for no frills connectivity for mouse+kb while in bios
- marking on the usb headers which have direct connectivity lanes to cpu for that low latency IO devices like mouse + kb for gaming
- some replica of asus nitro path
It’s nice they have added some vents into the rear Io panel but really that whole area needs a bit of a redesign. It’s very busy and congested with all those ports shoved into it nowadays.
First of all awesome video very informative enough for a commoner like me to understand the features on the motherboard.
Thanks!
Thanks Leo, was a good video. learned a good bit about the platform too. Who on earth thought that SNATCH was a good name for anything in the tech sector? hilarious
Thanks, appreciate it. And we're certainly not sure 😂
I'm a big fan of these X870/870E Gigabyte boards overall, Had great success with X570 Aorus Master board and B650i using right now for 7950X-3D mini itx. The other X870E board that interest me for the quality and feature set is the ASUS ProArt board.
This man is a National Treasure.
high praise, I am sure Leo will be chuffed to read that
I believe you forgot to mention that the CPU socket has a reinforced backing plate, as well as the graphics card slot, I have this board and along with the pushbutton pcie release and the tool free drive access, with a 7900 XTX I really appreciate the extra rigidity of the reinforced slot.
I've tortured this board for a month or so and its stable as a rock....
I was gonna say the software wasn't up to date but while watching this video I see there is a new bios, control center and several other drivers I guess I'll update it as I don't see AI snatch anywhere hehe, it also has several spots on board including in back with rgb built into it......
Super Solid MB imho for the price!
Thanks for the feedback, was good to read. thank you.
@KitGuruTech i can confirm the new bios did then trigger gigabyte control center to update all drivers and install AI Snatch, it's working fluid n fast DDR5 6000 at EXPO 1 CL30...7900xtx and 9700x ( 7800x3d sold out), primary cached gen 5 system drive and backups in 2 and 4....all TB....working a mint !!!
For the price I don't think I could have chose better, I'll be using the USB 4 eventually!
Thanks. I've never spent over 200 USD on a board, but things are going that way with the midrange-premium motherboards.
Motherboard pricing has become a pathetic cesspool..
This board might even be considered budget by some, especially when the MSI Godlike and ASUS Maximus are priced between £700+. - £1300. Crazy prices in 2024
This really is a great board - very well balanced and not compromised - just a small accessory pack with it. Are those VRMs any good ? how are they rated? I dont understand that side of things very well.
The only x870e board I needed was the Nova wifi and I bought it already. It's always sold out for a reason.
You are right but for me x870E Taichi Lite is the way to go and it will arrive soon.
Good review Leo - price point seems good, but last Gigabyte board I had was very poor, had a lot of hard locks. sent it back and got a ROG board, much better
Thanks for sharing
I almost regret having just bought the MSI Carbon, but not quite. I may have a use for the PCIe x4 slot: a Blackmagic Decklink card. That aside there's not much in it.
Price not considered, which would you recommend people buy? This, the MSI Carbon WIFI, or the ASUS Hero? Thank you for your awesome content!
I reviewed the Carbon WiFi and gave it 9 out of 10 where this Aorus Elite gets 8.5. I haven't reviewed the Asus. Take price out of the equation and the Carbon WiFi wins for sure.
leo
Love all those usb headers.
Thanks Leo, would you look at some ASROCK boards? you guys never look at them and they are much better value than the big 3 in all areas
Stay tuned... We do have something coming up
@@KitGuruTech We would like a review of the X870E Nova if it's possible please 🙂 Plenty of reviews of the Taichi/Lite already.
Hi Leo! Thanks for the review! Is this MB worth it over the non E board of the same line?
Gigabyte boards are great lately, very stable and perform well
Thanks for a great review!
I am thinking of getting this motherboard or its "Pro" variant, as it has a bit better VRMs. The thing I don't really like is that if you use any of those Gen 5 m.2 slots, the primary slot drops down to x8 mode. That's plenty of bandwidth for the majority of graphics cards nowadays, especially the new ones that are about to come out, but it's something to keep in mind as a buyer.
Again, thanks for a great review!
Yeah its a good board, the VRMs are important, they seem pretty solid on this board.
Glad I could help!
I am planing to get a 5090 next year so that's actually a bit of a concern, are you saying if I ran a PCI 5 m.2 my 5090 has it's bandwidth slashed in half?
Does the PRO have the same issue?
@@deloford All gigabyte motherboards with x870e chipset function this way (yes, even the Master), but this only applies to two m.2 5.0 slots beneath the pcie x16 slot. Using the one above it will not affect the bandwidth.
When it came to current generation boards and GPUs on pcie gen 4, a 4090 saw almost no bottleneck when used in slots running in x8 mode. Since pcie gen 5 is double the bandwidth of gen 4, I doubt it will see any bottleneck when the primary slot is running in x8 mode.
I hope this helps.
I have the X670 aourus elite ax. Worth the upgrade? My fear is that for OC 9000 series cpu and fast memory my current mobo will not be stable?
I just want something insane from Aorus for Ryzen like the Elite X Ice they did for Intel. That is by far my favorite looking motherboard.
That seems like a fair rating for a very good mid range board. The only board I had listed above it is the asrock gaming phantom nova 870e. Gives you pretty much everything the tachi has but at a cheaper price. I really like that the primary m.2 does not share lanes with the pcie1 16 slot for the gpu.
benchmarking motherboards, nice job! Really wondering how the gigabyte and asus ai overclocking is gonna do
Asrock has a great lineup as well
Yeah I want to see Leo with ASROCK boards for a change
We will be looking at some shortly, fingers crossed !
I went with the aorus pro ice x870e because it's by far the best looking white board on the market. And I'm not dumb enough to think 5.0 8x is really going to drop performance by more than 10-15 frames even on a 5090 if I want a few more SSD's.
This is what I'm planning to use with a 9800X3D. Do I HAVE to update the BIOS before booting into windows? (I've got enough memory sticks round here that I'm losing track of as it is :P )
Thanks for the video Leo, is this the best X870E board you have tested so far?
The MSI MPG X970E Carbon WiFi referred to in this video scored better but costs a chunk more www.kitguru.net/components/motherboard/leo-waldock/msi-mpg-x870e-carbon-wifi-review
I'm new to M.2 tech, will be getting this board ....does the board come w/ M.2 standoffs...these already installed on the board?
Micro Center is offering a bundle w/ the 7950x3d, I've been wondering if it's worth pulling the trigger. I don't like how the PCIe x16 slot shares bandwith w/ two of the M.2 slots though, but I've read that supposedly it won't affect GPU performance much, but not sure what the reality is.
I bought that bundle a few weeks ago and haven't opened it yet. Trying to see if I should take it back based on the reviews of the 9800x3D. If that chip isn't much faster than the 7950x3D I'll keep it and start building.
@@Kwincy5 Careful, you may not be able to bring it back if it's been 15 days since you purchased, I believe I was told return policy for cpu and mobo is 15 days.
Did you try overclocking it how far could you push the memory etc?
Thanks for your wonderful work
I got one of those by default, my ASUS TUF B650 WiFi board died after 8 months, ongoing issue with ASUS. I decided I had enough of ASUS, so I decided to jump ship with Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite WiFi7. Really nice, lots of features and temperatures on the CPU also greatly reduced. The price is not that much more than regular B650 main board. I have the RealTek version. Thumbs up from me :)
Glad to hear it!
The wifi plug looks like a power socket
The MSI MEG X870E GODLIKE is where it’s at with the Ryzen 7 9800X3D.
"and Gigabyte would like to show us their snatch", I am dying over here LOL
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Hoping they release a similar speced matx board with B850 later this year. Wish the we'd get more POST troubleshooting LEDs (88-digit leds) on midrange boards.
Looked at their B650M Aurous Elite and I couldn't find even find a single LED for troubleshooting. That doesn't seem very elite, but maybe they like getting boards back as defect claims 😂
LOL - whom uses SATA based 2.5" drives these days - well, I do. My NAS is full of them, my main PC has 4 of them (plus an additional NVMe drive and (*GASP*) a DVD writer), etc, etc. Anyways, that's a solid looking board for the money - so I can safely move to having two NVMe drives with that board, keep 3 of the SATA drive's and the DVD writer. Def think it's a fair price, they made very good choices for trade offs.
The 2 pci-e slots may be basic but Gigabyte have at least fitted them, me I have a 10gbe and a capture card and it's extremely frustrating finding most motherboards have all their lanes allocated to m.2 slots.
Does USB4 works with thunderbolt 3 audio interfaces for studio? Cannot find any reliable data on internet. X870e does not have TB header on motherboard either like x670 had... Thanks for answering.
Good review thanks ❤
You’re welcome 😊
I've not had particularly good luck with Gigabyte products outside of mobo's, though from what I was looking at a few months ago on the E variants, this actually looks pretty reasonable versus everything else. At least two usable PCIe full x16 slots, lots of NVME lanes and a respectable backplate.
ADD: For those of us running 5300RPM fans, yes, SATA slots do come in handy. 😁 As much as a bother as they are, nvme drives over 4tb aren't particularly plentiful or affordable, so mass storage still defaults to HDDs too.
Thanks for sharing
This board isnt that good, using more than 2 m.2 slots cuts the pciex16 to x8... x670 is better if you dont need usb4.
Quite a few years back (think decades ago) Gigabyte had real quality problems with their motherboards. I can't remember the year, but they took up the issue at a management meeting and was seriously considering ditching the motherboards entirely as the RMA costs made them lose money on every sold MB. They decided to give it one last chance and this time the quality was supposed to be the primary when deciding on construction and choosing make and model of components rather than always go with the cheapest option. This was way before they "invented" the Aurous name, I would say it was more than a decade ago perhaps two. But the change was immediate. The motherboards they released after that cut down on the RMS cost by a lot, and suddenly they were making money on selling motherboards instead of losing money. AFAIK they've kept making decent motherboards since, instead of cutting corners until they fail often enough to cost them more money for the warranty replacements than they make selling them.
All in all this doesn't really matter for customers today. I just think it's pretty interesting to know that once they were doing so bad that they were considering ditching the motherboard business.
@@blahorgaslisk7763 That sounds very accurate to my experience with the last GPU I got from them, back in the 280x era. While it never blew up like their power supply woes not too long ago, it overheated even with minimal tasks and would regularly self-destruct into Errorville in games. Between the 280x issue and their QA dipping lower on other product lines, I have been leery to pick up function-centric products from them, though I have eyeballed their TR40 boards numerous times. Good to know the effort is being made to improve!
@@RainOrbs Yeah, I've run into the m.2 downrating other lanes issue before, which was a particular draw to this generation of motherboard that was supposed to fix that (the X870E variants specifically). I've mostly decided to go X670E for half the price depending on the next variants of the X3D chips if the higher core counts (9900 or 9950s) get dual vcache allotments, otherwise the only other x870E boards that work for me are in the $500 range, which is just absurd to get bracketed into that segment for two features.
Hey, KitGUru, where i can find pc stand exactly as yours?
Thanks, it looks good for the money
No problem 👍
Gigabyte X870 Aorus Elite WiFi7 ICE (non -E Chipset) has exact the same features. The only notable difference is that it has only one USB3 header, which imo doesn't matter. And it's white. But it's also nearly 30€ cheaper. So if the color doesn't matter, it's the better choice.
I am considering this board too but it does worse than the 870E in some reviews.
Excellent review but I do wish you'd gone further and tested the fit of secondary expansion cards. I run 10 Gb networking so it's an immediate no-buy issue if a 4-slot GPU blocks that x4 slot. Or if using a card in that slot negatively affects the temperatures of a 4-slot GPU.
BTW I class a budget board as under £100.
You would be lucky to get the box for £100 the way prices are in the last 12 months. I agree, I used to think that way too. but a budget board now seems closer to £200.
It was a little mistake in the video but the bottom gen3 slot is actually x4 not x2. He probably got it mixed up with the X870 non-E Aorus Elite.
I wonder if MSI released bios update since you tested this MB?
Are there any matx boards on the way?
I've been thinking about just getting a 670e for my next build, but the easy installation features for m.2s and the release button for the graphics card may push me the other way. I tend to slowly upgrade my systems over time so those things add value. The BIOS looks really good. I can take or leave the usb4 or wifi 7 though.
Havent seen a better review than this.
Thanks !
Be interesting to know whether the 9800X3D would be able to extract more performance from the MSI Carbon
Hi, can I please have the name of the test bench, I like the idea of having the psu underneath.
Thanks
I got the X870E Aorus Pro Ice. Seems like it's basically this board for the most part, just white. Yes, or am I missing something?
What about the Asrock X870E Nova WiFi? I heard features and price wise, it's an even bigger and better value than the Aorus Elite.
Watch this space...
I've had this board for 3 weeks and the only little complaint I have is the lane sharing and no clear cmos on the back. I've done some research, and it doesn't look like lowering the GPU bandwidth hurts too much if even at all for gaming. Looks like in most cases you might lose a couple of FPS which probably won't be noticeable. That being said, I have 3 of the M2 slots populated and everything has been smooth. 2 x gen 4 2tb and 1 4tb gen4 crucial.
Thanks for sharing
Dont like that control centre software at all but it’s neat it updated the graphics card firmware.
The I/O panel isnt bad,. wouldnt have minded a few more USB or even a thunderbolt
That is an area that needs a redesign. It's absolutely full up of stuff now. Would be difficult to use all the ports at the same time given the amount of congestion going on there.
I am wondering about the In Out on the back where we use to have jacks for Sound, which seems to have changed, where there use to be different colored jacks for 5.1 audio, what is going on that these are now missing from the backs of many of the Mother boards.. I noticed that the asus Tuf board still has them, but most boards have gone away, what is the deal if you could let me know.. and or is there an audio interface which will allow someone to plug in their 5.1 jacks into it..
Can someone explain in TECHNICAL TERMS
The differences between
Gigabyte X870E Aorus PRO and
Gigabyte X870E AORUS ELITE
The price of the first one is 80-90€ for what exactly
Good job Leo!
No ASROCK loving? I moved to them recently and found them to be good quality and around £30 less than even MSI who are cheaper than ASUS usually
Something coming soon 👍🏻
Weird that thunderbolt never seemed to take off for a lot of pc makers, I heard the licensing fees were sky high, which is likely why, its always been a more elegant solution than USB
Hi! I bought the same motherboard. I was wondering where among the M.2 slots does 2280 ssd works? And also the wifi doesn't work even i downloaded driver for it. Tysm!!!
Why dont they do mesh blanking plates for PCI slots to aid with cooling?
Gotta say thats a pretty sexy looking board too. not a cheap looking model. around 300 seems like a good price point for me, but I guess if you are buying the new 5090 then its ultra high end for you. or do people buying a 4090 or 5090 still buy a 300 motherboard?
@@boltsandbraces6261 x870e Nova wifi is the best value x870e board. Also, I plan to get the 5090 when it comes out. The Nova offered everything I needed for a fraction of the price of some of the expensive boards.
Maybe, sometimes people dont like spending money on motherboards or power supplies. we have noticed that anyway based on comments
I was looking at the MSI X870 Tomahawk, which has 5G LAN. I only plan to use 2x m.2 4.0 SSDs, so there should be no lane problems. But I didn’t know mainboards would perform differently in benchmarks. How do the Gigabyte compare to the MSI? The price is very similar.
lookup the Hardware Unboxed 870 roundup. It does quite well (spoiler alert).
As for what to use in those bottom two PCIe slots… A 10 Gbps NIC is a hard requirement for me and the bottom slot is perfect for one.
question: do any board have 5.1 optiical audio? that would save me buying a sound card (bc hdmi audio drops out for me and kills watching movies)
i think the biggest let down is pci-e switching...Asrock Nova is much better . I wish gigabyte done a better job here
The Nova is great, but it just pushes the additional M.2 to the chipset instead of CPU to accomplish that. These are CPU / Chipset limitations.
@drewnewby well i would rather have bit slower nvme, then share lanes with gpu :)
@lo0nyk On this board, you can run your primary M.2 and one on the chipset with no lane sharing. Your GPU is not using full PCIe 5.0 x16, nor will any in the near future. You can also attach additional M.2 via the PCIe 4.0 x16 on this board, without GPU lane sharing.
And yet, usualy 670 series frim Gigabyte had problems with bios and ddr stability. Does the new 870 series suffers the same? This is the only question that deserves an answer.
9:25 what happened to write on that GBT, looks like write and read were swapped
Its been some time since I bought a Gigabyte product.
I just went with the MSI X870 P with 64GB of 6400 RAM for the upcoming 9800X3D.
I am not liking the idea of the proprietary plugin Wi-Fi antenna. I replaced my stock one with one that was more stable than the cheap one that came with the motherboard and kept falling over. I was then also surprised by the stronger signal. This would only work for me if that plug could be adapted to another antenna.
Doesn’t this chipset support 5Gb Ethernet? Any real disadvantage sticking with 2.5?
What is the difference between X870 vs X870E?
Certainly not a bad board at all. However, I’m going to stick with the MSI Carbon. I like the slightly better build quality and features, as well as the bios. Plus, it’s a Leo 9/10 😂💯
Also, I concur with others. Thank you for stripping the boards and showing us the naked truth lol
Good choice!