UPGRADING a Brand NEW M4 Mac mini

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  • @DavidWasman
    @DavidWasman Місяць тому +3043

    omg when I saw the tear down and saw the SSD was swappable, I literally said "I wonder how long 'til dosdude upgrades one" and wow. This is record time! BRAVO!

    • @animecutscenes3414
      @animecutscenes3414 Місяць тому +50

      Literally same!😂 It only took 44 minutes and this is the same guy who upgraded his m1 mac studio too

    • @waddahrasengan3414
      @waddahrasengan3414 Місяць тому +9

      Definitely amazing i thought it might take few weeks

    • @kalvin126
      @kalvin126 Місяць тому +21

      “SSD” doesn’t even have to be swappable for dosdude to upgrade it.

    • @Warp2090
      @Warp2090 Місяць тому +57

      apple users when a computer lets you upgrade something that should've always been upgradable: OMG!!1111 AMAZING!11

    • @JeffTiberend
      @JeffTiberend Місяць тому +30

      I don’t care if the ram can’t be upgraded. But, the fact that he can replace the chips and upgrade the memory should be a slap in the face to Apple. You would think that they would just make this something that a user could do.

  • @maxschmidt666
    @maxschmidt666 Місяць тому +472

    This might actually one of the best YT videos I have seen in a while:
    -Extremely well explained
    -You actually show every single step
    -You admit when things are not working
    -You also talk about prices for the chips
    Your skills are really, really useful and helping people out not getting exploited by shady greedy Apple corp.

    • @dosdude1
      @dosdude1  Місяць тому +33

      Thanks! I try to explain and show the processes done in these videos in enough detail so that anyone with the tools and skills can replicate what I do.

    • @chrisloydchristie4991
      @chrisloydchristie4991 Місяць тому

      @@dosdude1 Where do we get to buy the K6 B2 nand?

    • @dosdude1
      @dosdude1  Місяць тому +4

      @@chrisloydchristie4991 They are available from AliExpress.

    • @billfusionenterprise
      @billfusionenterprise Місяць тому

      @@dosdude1 You one issue with the nands may be a speed OS issue. I seen it 30 years ago in several custom systems, where dianogs ran OK, but when OS booted the system crashed. It was why we had for one system a can't use together list for a phone system

    • @MangoChutney-k5v
      @MangoChutney-k5v 18 днів тому +1

      I look forward to the day they will answer for their cheating of the public.

  • @rogerwilco2
    @rogerwilco2 27 днів тому +73

    90 dollars and a lot of soldering skill and some special gear.
    Respect. This is beyond my skill level.

    • @carsonlockwood4936
      @carsonlockwood4936 26 днів тому

      That’s what I said too

    • @OdinReactor
      @OdinReactor 22 дні тому +7

      Don't forget the $160 memory he bought that didn't work. That is also part of the expense.

    • @MrDelgrigorov
      @MrDelgrigorov 10 днів тому +2

      This is beyond 99,9999% of the people interested skill level and it is absolutely pointless.

    • @Eric-yp5wp
      @Eric-yp5wp 10 днів тому +2

      @@OdinReactor Yeah that $200 price tag from Apple to upgrade each double space spec isn’t so bad. You’d have to have all the tools and love doing this to justify trying it on your own.

    • @LindonSlaght
      @LindonSlaght 4 дні тому

      @@OdinReactor Well, now he knows that, and will never make that mistake again. We can assume that in a commercial solution, such mistakes would not be made in manufacturing.

  • @Cultureshockcrew
    @Cultureshockcrew 6 днів тому +5

    You are a mad man tearing it down just minutes after powering it on for the first time. I could never

  • @fairestmink4023
    @fairestmink4023 Місяць тому +19

    UA-cam algorithm is incredible, just watched tear down video of mini few hours back, wondered how long I have to wait till someone releases SSD upgrade video and here I go!!!

  • @cstanutube
    @cstanutube Місяць тому +916

    Great idea to use the new Mac mini upside down. No issue accessing the power button now!

    • @__Lento__
      @__Lento__ Місяць тому +150

      and now it has a nice pedestal for your coffee cup too!

    • @zsoltpeterdaniel8413
      @zsoltpeterdaniel8413 Місяць тому

      And it keeps the cofee warm​@@__Lento__

    • @ginglyst
      @ginglyst Місяць тому +29

      @@__Lento__ :shudder:

    • @hruntingson
      @hruntingson Місяць тому +59

      Better airflow too

    • @EricHadley
      @EricHadley Місяць тому +27

      u mean right way up

  • @whette_fahrtz
    @whette_fahrtz Місяць тому +2093

    "i gotta go get a mac running sequoia"
    cut to an imac g4 lmao

    • @Ciaolo
      @Ciaolo Місяць тому +66

      That was so funny 😂

    • @mewity
      @mewity Місяць тому +83

      opencore legacy patcher really does wonders! /s

    • @DickVanPaiton
      @DickVanPaiton Місяць тому +9

      What about using the other mac with pre-sequoia and using the right (middle) port?

    • @TohPhimmasenh
      @TohPhimmasenh Місяць тому +4

      Thats what I thought too 🤣🤣

    • @arricammarques1955
      @arricammarques1955 Місяць тому +12

      M4 mini swap with G4 cube!

  • @Worthless.
    @Worthless. Місяць тому +386

    dude literally ran to his door.. got the package.. ripped it open... .brought it to his desk... started his camera and started recording
    2TB... that musta cost you AT LEAST $700+ that's so much storage! i can't even IMAGINE

    • @dosdude1
      @dosdude1  Місяць тому +186

      That is literally exactly what I did.

    • @Worthless.
      @Worthless. Місяць тому +132

      just finished the video... 160$ for 2TB... someone tell apple they're overcharging just a little bit.
      i hope someone sells those modules so ppl can easily upgrade the storage.. that would be awesome to not have to pay $1000 for storage upgrades

    • @goclunker
      @goclunker Місяць тому +10

      Laughs in 6tb, but not apple

    • @dosdude1
      @dosdude1  Місяць тому +89

      @@goclunker Up to 8TB is possible on the M4 Pro model, which supports 8 NAND chips.

    • @goclunker
      @goclunker Місяць тому +12

      @ 😯 i feel a future video! 8TB is mad impressive. One day when I scrounge some cash together, I would like to hire you for a 7448 to a 17" powerbook 1.67ghz upgrade!
      My heart and mind are stuck in the powerpc world. Maybe we can make my 12" 1.5ghz powerbook a 7448 as well. I bought 6 of them when they last popped up on ebay hahaha.
      There are still some affordable network switches and other processing cards on eBay with 7448s in them.

  • @tonymantinelli6747
    @tonymantinelli6747 Місяць тому +32

    DosDude1 is one of a kind..Apple knows there's only just a few people out there in the world that have the skills to do this upgrade and DosDude1 is one of them!! Bravo and hats off!!

  • @wtfismyhandle
    @wtfismyhandle 27 днів тому +2

    Thanks!

  • @spencefinch29
    @spencefinch29 Місяць тому +209

    Dosdude you’ve got skills. Very impressive man. Your passion is infectious. Thanks for being at the forefront of the upgradeability/repairability community - you’re flying the flag high.

    • @HeangKoing
      @HeangKoing Місяць тому +4

      My man has skills. Great video and content!

    • @owen-trombone
      @owen-trombone Місяць тому +3

      I was blown away by this video.

  • @JeffGeerling
    @JeffGeerling Місяць тому +1580

    In before 1 million views.

    • @waddahrasengan3414
      @waddahrasengan3414 Місяць тому +49

      Jeff no Pi's here

    • @rem_0
      @rem_0 Місяць тому +10

      How is gpu on raspberry pi project goes so far? Is there any news that wasn't in newest videos?

    • @JeffGeerling
      @JeffGeerling Місяць тому +40

      @@rem_0a lot actually! Got the 6000 series AMD cards working well, and now working on 7000 series!

    • @jessiethedude
      @jessiethedude Місяць тому +1

      A teardown and storage upgrade on the MBP will probably have a ton of views too

    • @Ying-yang6969
      @Ying-yang6969 Місяць тому

      Hdy Jeff

  • @CreativeMindsAudio
    @CreativeMindsAudio Місяць тому +233

    it would be cool to see you or someone start selling the 'cards' or NVME drives with new NAND on it cause that's a lot of work. I'd love a 8TB drive for the price of a 512GB plus NAND😂. I'm just not skilled like that.

    • @fujinshu
      @fujinshu Місяць тому +37

      Already is happening with the Mac Studio over at Polysoft, but will probably take a while for new Mac Mini compatible NAND modules to be made.

    • @delasantos
      @delasantos Місяць тому

      @@fujinshu Yeah but Polysoft is asking "premium" prices. Basically not affordable. Agree though! Only a matter of time. Will Apple try to block this though?

    • @CreativeMindsAudio
      @CreativeMindsAudio Місяць тому +8

      @ awesome thanks! I’ll be on the look out. Figured someone was doing it.

    • @chinito77
      @chinito77 Місяць тому +22

      Someone's going to make a killing when mini drives are for sale. Anything is better than what apple charges in house.

    • @fujinshu
      @fujinshu Місяць тому +4

      @@chinito77 It's probably going to be Polysoft, if they can find a way to retool their Mac Studio PCBs for the Mac Mini.

  • @shepherd29
    @shepherd29 Місяць тому +4

    Well, thank you for being in the community and doing such awesome things. I’ve been following you since I needed to upgrade a 2009 white MacBook and I stumbled on your Sierra Patcher. Since then I’ve made it to a hobby to buy old Macs dirt cheap and install new software with your tools. Most of the other solutions are buggy but yours work very well.

  • @hadi8348
    @hadi8348 Місяць тому +21

    One of the less frustrating videos out there. You talk about basically everything that I would have had to ask in other videos. Awesome job man !

    • @photonganglol2413
      @photonganglol2413 Місяць тому

      do you nerds know why he has to solder the storage chips? Are you allowed to just swap the whole m.2 card?

    • @hadi8348
      @hadi8348 Місяць тому +1

      @@photonganglol2413 You could if it was a regular m.2 card. It's actually not, it's Apple proprietary, and no third-party is selling these (yet), so that's the only solution for now. But won't be for long, so if you're not in a hurry, I suggest that you wait for a few months until someone just releases those.

    • @photonganglol2413
      @photonganglol2413 Місяць тому +1

      @@hadi8348 Yah that's a good idea. I'm not the best at soldering and de-soldering literally gives me nightmares so i would for sure mess this up. Thanks though this helps a lot.

  • @CMBurns1000
    @CMBurns1000 Місяць тому +390

    26:22 it’s not only flashing, it morses SOS, which is phenomenal

    • @mewity
      @mewity Місяць тому +16

      that was a thing since basically the beginning of MacBooks

    • @CMBurns1000
      @CMBurns1000 Місяць тому +12

      @mewity I know, they used to beep. That reminiscence is what makes it phenomenal 😉

    • @billgates3699
      @billgates3699 Місяць тому +8

      Have you looked up the definition of “phenomenal” or do you just use words to sound wordy?

    • @yootubah887
      @yootubah887 Місяць тому

      @@billgates3699 chill out billiam

    • @zizhdizzabagus456
      @zizhdizzabagus456 Місяць тому +7

      Apple being apple

  • @andre-le-bone-aparte
    @andre-le-bone-aparte Місяць тому +200

    Bob Dos: Today we are going to paint some happy little NAND clouds...

  • @TylerStartz
    @TylerStartz Місяць тому +502

    I knew it was coming, but I didn’t expect this quick! Great work man. Insane.

    • @dosdude1
      @dosdude1  Місяць тому +40

      You know I had to!

    • @niyazzmoithu20
      @niyazzmoithu20 Місяць тому +2

      me too😂.

    • @miatafied
      @miatafied Місяць тому +1

      It’s such a good price on these but they’re neutered by the small storage

  • @tecnopadre
    @tecnopadre Місяць тому +2

    Man, your work worth lots more than the upgrade for humans like men using it online to Mac. Awesome work.

  • @rboerdijk76
    @rboerdijk76 Місяць тому +7

    wow, didn't think it was possible to reball by hand. I meddled a bit with some chips with 4x4 and "messed till it worked", but never even considered this to be plausible on this level... Using the stencils to squeeze the solder in, and then just heat it up while still in the stencil is just brilliant, thanks for showing this technique!

    • @fullofnuts
      @fullofnuts Місяць тому +2

      steady hands required 😂

    • @rboerdijk76
      @rboerdijk76 Місяць тому +1

      @@fullofnuts yeah, I won't be trying _that_ anytime soon... still, to know that it's possible at all is... wow...

  • @EyesOfByes
    @EyesOfByes Місяць тому +408

    Linus LTT just gave you a shoutout less than ten minutes ago on WAN show livestream! Your timing is unintenionally perfect! :D

    • @JunaidHasan23
      @JunaidHasan23 Місяць тому +15

      Yeah for time stamp it is around 1 hour and 32 minutes into the livestream

    • @jessiethedude
      @jessiethedude Місяць тому +3

      I think he did it last week too. Or at least brought it up

    • @magfal
      @magfal Місяць тому +3

      ​@@jessiethedude he didn't remember the name of any specific channel last week.

    • @emadhamidnaja
      @emadhamidnaja Місяць тому +1

      I think he talked about iboff RCCs channel not Dosdude

    • @xumatyt
      @xumatyt Місяць тому +1

      I guess that's why YT recommended this video to me. I watched that WAN show

  • @jordanwoodstock902
    @jordanwoodstock902 Місяць тому +50

    No Mac mini video will ever compete looool man unboxed broke down and upgraded the SSD within a week on the product being out videoed edited and uploaded. This is some crazy work

    • @dplj4428
      @dplj4428 Місяць тому

      waiting for a casual commentary by jerrtrigeverything.

  • @joesalyers
    @joesalyers Місяць тому +66

    Well this was quick!! LOL I thought about you as soon as I saw the teardowns on other channels today. I said next week we will see dosdude get his hands on a Mac Mini. Well I was off by a WEEK and here we are!! AWESOME! Cheers!

  • @D.u.d.e.r
    @D.u.d.e.r Місяць тому +15

    Apple should offer this type of storage upgrading on all of their Macs, including selling of different storage options. Thx for making this vid!👍

    • @swooshdave
      @swooshdave Місяць тому +3

      Don’t hold your breath. You see how much they charge to upgrade the storage from new.

    • @D.u.d.e.r
      @D.u.d.e.r Місяць тому

      @@swooshdave A lot and much more than on the PC, however at least it will be modular and easier for the repairers to solder replacement NAND chips.

    • @rosaria8384
      @rosaria8384 Місяць тому

      They will never do it.

  • @dionhouston
    @dionhouston Місяць тому

    Really great video! Watching the reconstruction of the NAND portion, I just said "I'm not worthy" - definitely not an upgrade I could do, but it's nice that it -is- upgradeable! Bravo!

  • @DjBlacid
    @DjBlacid Місяць тому +45

    ppl just receiving mac minis today, just today the swappable ssd news broke out
    then i recalled you already swapped a mac studio ssd, so i was rewatching that, and in recommended there's already your video swapping a m4 mini ssd lmao, you're insane dude kudos

    • @neetop1557
      @neetop1557 Місяць тому +1

      wow, ur sch a smrt n' cnning flla!

  • @scottsmall9898
    @scottsmall9898 Місяць тому +23

    Just like that all the new balls are seated and ready to go...I tried this and all I've got to say is this man is a PROFESSIONAL. I love all your videos and I knew you were going to be the first to do this to the new Mac Mini. Thank you

    • @jackgerberuae
      @jackgerberuae Місяць тому +1

      Where do you get the reballing kit and templates?
      I guess my question is by the time you have the specific kit to change that M4 chip, you would not to be far off of a bought and guaranteed Mac?

  • @shilofax293
    @shilofax293 Місяць тому +20

    I was so anticipating this video the moment I saw that the SSD was not soldered. Thanks for making it!

  • @MikeLikesChannel
    @MikeLikesChannel Місяць тому +29

    You got brass balls desoldering the NAND and placing new ones so precisely. -Former ACMT

    • @StudentRadioITromso
      @StudentRadioITromso Місяць тому

      Hard task to master @mikelikeschannel

    • @MathiasRstJensen
      @MathiasRstJensen Місяць тому

      @@StudentRadioITromso❤

    • @kentbyron7608
      @kentbyron7608 Місяць тому +1

      Word!

    • @SidneyCritic
      @SidneyCritic Місяць тому +1

      northwestrepair regularly replaces all the VRAM chips on a graphics card, plus RnR's GPU, ie, the PCBs are garbage and usually pulls pads, or the balls just detach/crack. I don't know, maybe 4000s balls just on one card.

    • @passportmarc
      @passportmarc 23 дні тому

      How do you align it correctly ? seems like he is eyeballing it but probably not

  • @owen-trombone
    @owen-trombone Місяць тому +217

    Me clicking on the video: OMG I’m gonna get a Mini and do this too!
    Me at 19:31: 😱 I’m never gonna do this

    • @CalvinTheII
      @CalvinTheII Місяць тому +27

      lemmie tell you!!!! That re-balling HUMBLED ME SO FAST!!!! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @chiluco2000
      @chiluco2000 Місяць тому +10

      you need balls to reball-it! 🤣🤣

    • @soundguyldn
      @soundguyldn Місяць тому +2

      This should be the top comment 😂 same here!

    • @Ronald-Reggae
      @Ronald-Reggae Місяць тому

      Grow some b...s :)

    • @robhephner
      @robhephner Місяць тому +3

      I'm like "re-NOPE."

  • @Zoki333
    @Zoki333 Місяць тому +133

    Damn. For a hot second I thought I’d be able to just buy and install a new part. Thanks Apple
    Also you’re doing gods work

    • @fujinshu
      @fujinshu Місяць тому +14

      Not yet, but if the Mac Studio is anything to go by, there CAN probably be a new carrier board for these chips.

    • @LoganDark4357
      @LoganDark4357 Місяць тому +15

      There WILL be third-party modules that just drop in

    • @sadiporter2966
      @sadiporter2966 Місяць тому +2

      @@LoganDark4357 you still need an extra mac to install the os though.

    • @joeynessily
      @joeynessily Місяць тому

      @@sadiporter2966you can buy another mini, it will still probably be cheaper than the storage upgrade 😂

    • @benNdaKen
      @benNdaKen Місяць тому

      @@sadiporter2966actually the part where the mac is needed is to reprogramm the Nands

  • @MacinMindSoftware
    @MacinMindSoftware Місяць тому +218

    Got mine today too. Just for reference, the factory 1 TB config runs about 3 GB/s too.

    • @dalexfilms
      @dalexfilms Місяць тому +32

      No whining, just the helpful info... That's a gentleman, thank you.

    • @ahmetdenizsezgin
      @ahmetdenizsezgin Місяць тому +42

      Bro sacrificed his money to give us info

    • @RealMrStoofus
      @RealMrStoofus Місяць тому +19

      M4 Pro with 2TB runs ~6.8GB/s Read, ~5GB/s write

    • @alastairleith8612
      @alastairleith8612 Місяць тому +24

      ⁠@@RealMrStoofusM4 Pro mini RAM has double the bandwidth according to Apple. funny thing is the 24 → 48 GB upgrade on the Pro is at $12.50/GB while the upgrade on base model mac minis say 16 → 32 GB is $25/GB. predatory pricing from Apple once again!

    • @AlexMkd1984
      @AlexMkd1984 Місяць тому

      ​@@RealMrStoofusmore like 3 gb 🤣🤣🤣🤣 stop lying

  • @Josue143803
    @Josue143803 Місяць тому +242

    We all expected this, I just didn't expect it to be this soon lol

    • @MEGARUSHBASE
      @MEGARUSHBASE Місяць тому +2

      Yeah lol

    • @sokh1590
      @sokh1590 Місяць тому +1

      Can u say u why u expected this, apple being anti repair I least expected this

    • @bocahdongo7769
      @bocahdongo7769 25 днів тому +1

      Same module with Mac Studio btw

  • @djblackcapsulamusic
    @djblackcapsulamusic Місяць тому +1

    One question, would you be willing to do the SSD upgrade service if I buy a 256GB Mac Mini and increase the storage to 1TB? If you are willing please tell me how we would do it, I am really interested in making a good deal..!

  • @SkyOctopus1
    @SkyOctopus1 Місяць тому +4

    I love how you use the word "just", then proceed to do some prestidigitation followed by black magic.

  • @c4n0
    @c4n0 Місяць тому +73

    protect this man at all costs!

  • @raymondm.3748
    @raymondm.3748 Місяць тому +16

    Whooo! Yeah baby! Thats what we’ve all been waiting for, that’s what it’s all about! Whooo!

  • @macwake
    @macwake Місяць тому +5

    So glad you don't have to preprogram those NANDs any more. Nice one, especially doing this to your very first new mac even before really using it

  • @ste76539
    @ste76539 Місяць тому +3

    This is the first time I've seen one of these. The layout is just...I mean, what were they thinking? Power button on the underneath? No audio output at the back, where a normal person would want to plug in their desktop speakers?

  • @randomadvice2487
    @randomadvice2487 Місяць тому +2

    1M views!!!!!! I’m sure one of those views is Tim Cook, with a big smile on his face.
    How could Tim not respect the ingenuity of Dosdude!

  • @BMANZZS
    @BMANZZS Місяць тому +80

    Dosdude makes this look about 100x easier than it actually is. Not only that, but you need very expensive equipment. This guy is a fuckin pro.

    • @clickykbd
      @clickykbd Місяць тому +2

      I would argue that bit about the tools is not actually true. A hot air station is pretty basic tool (and there are affordable ones out there). The solder paste and mask is likely to be the least familiar task for anyone who has not done this kind of rework. But certainly not for the faint of heart if you are not comfortable with those tools.

    • @rars0n
      @rars0n Місяць тому +15

      All he's using is a hot air machine, which is not expensive at all.

    • @peterbooth6753
      @peterbooth6753 Місяць тому +2

      @@rars0n I would net let my own fat fingers near the internals of a Mac Mini, a Macbook Pro or an iMac but it makes for great viewing.

    • @gtcdma
      @gtcdma Місяць тому

      Equipment is not that expensive. You can get a decent soldering hot air gun for, like, $200.

    • @fujitsubo3323
      @fujitsubo3323 Місяць тому +2

      @@gtcdma probably 1 in 1 million people would have this Equipment laying around or the skills to do the upgrade. i think the upgrades cool and all but its hardly a life saver for the average joe. once you pay for the extra storage chips and pay someone to install it without destroying the board you could have just paid the BS apple tax and bought the 2tb version.

  • @Purposable
    @Purposable Місяць тому +100

    Little note, the amber light in DFU mode is flashing S.O.S. in Morse code

    • @lovelytingy
      @lovelytingy Місяць тому +1

      Nice thinking of developers

  • @velocity211
    @velocity211 Місяць тому +12

    that solder paste is a massive improvement over the old method of the individual solder balls...

  • @TouchWorld3G
    @TouchWorld3G Місяць тому +2

    What exact NAND chips did you use? And where do you usually get them? Would help a lot!

  • @matthewdee6023
    @matthewdee6023 Місяць тому +2

    Soooooo, for those of us without a) the tools or b) the skill to do this, are after-market SSD modules available? Or is it an Apple propriety module/connector?

  • @leeminh2401
    @leeminh2401 Місяць тому +299

    $90 to upgrade to 1tb, Apple could never

    • @Warp2090
      @Warp2090 Місяць тому +14

      90$ Is absurd

    • @therealuzr
      @therealuzr Місяць тому +20

      It’s the price for used chips, that’s been grabbed most of the times from icloud locked ipads and macs

    • @przemoziolkowski
      @przemoziolkowski Місяць тому +13

      @@therealuzr But I think it needs to be brand new empty chip. Not sure :)

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt Місяць тому +39

      This is absolute madness, wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. A computer is meant to be easily upgradable, they might as well seal it in a glob of resin. lol

    • @therealuzr
      @therealuzr Місяць тому +5

      @@przemoziolkowski not quite like that. It’s need to be erased on a programmer (what Chinese technicians do before sell)
      In some devices as i remember the part (or partition) from old nand need to be programmed into new chip so it’s gonna show up as a dfu so you can restore it

  • @uchihakeyblade
    @uchihakeyblade Місяць тому +8

    Seeing you use that heat gun made me shiver. I usually would have thrown some kind of shielding tape over those capacitors just to be on the safe side.
    But I'm being paranoid. Awesome vid :)

  • @gtretroworld
    @gtretroworld Місяць тому +4

    I wasn’t expecting the new M4 Mini to be so modifiable so i opted for 512, looks to be definitely worth upgrading in the future. Thanks for the video buddy.

  • @v3zMedia
    @v3zMedia Місяць тому +1

    I'm guessing for the Base Model M4 the k5A5 NANDs have to be used and those are 512gb each. For the M4 Pro Model you can probably use the k6b2 NANDs that are 1tb each... That's my guess. Can you confirm which NANDs were used for the final 1tb configuration here?

    • @dosdude1
      @dosdude1  Місяць тому +2

      2x K5A5 were used, yes. It does support 2x K6B2 as well for 2TB.

    • @igorxcpl
      @igorxcpl Місяць тому

      @@dosdude1 K5A8-1TB will also work? they are half the price of 6

    • @dosdude1
      @dosdude1  Місяць тому +4

      @@igorxcpl No, K5A8 is NOT compatible with this machine.

    • @v3zMedia
      @v3zMedia Місяць тому +1

      @@dosdude1 That good to know. Thanks for the quick response! I'm going to try this out on the M4 Pro. My brother Custom PC just died after 10 years and this will replace that for Music and Video Production... Now off to find the NAND Programmer and BGS Reballing Stencil you're using.

    • @dosdude1
      @dosdude1  Місяць тому +2

      @@v3zMedia The M4 Pro is going to be a bit different, for 2TB on that, you'll need 4x K5A5s. 4TB and 8TB require using 8 NANDs (either 8x K5A5 for 4TB or 8x K6B2 for 8TB), though it is likely that adding extra passive components will be needed to use the second set of 4 NANDs.

  • @RogueCylon
    @RogueCylon Місяць тому +5

    Apple still making it ever harder to upgrade and restore. Finally a proper upgrade. New sub here.

  • @f4micom
    @f4micom Місяць тому +21

    dosdude is the GOAT as always

  • @7hx89
    @7hx89 Місяць тому +5

    Good to see you in action, as always. The all mighty dosdude!

  • @theshadowman1398
    @theshadowman1398 Місяць тому +35

    Finally a teardown video of this bloody thing. And it sucks so much. I remember the good old days when that the bottom would just released by giving it a small twist and you could upgrade the ram and hard drive. I demand those days back.

    • @Youtuber-ku4nk
      @Youtuber-ku4nk Місяць тому +2

      Upgradable ram would make it slower since they would have to be off the soc

    • @theshadowman1398
      @theshadowman1398 Місяць тому +3

      @
      You give it a rest. Like most people would even notice that their desktop will be a couple of seconds slower with editing a video. If it’s not user upgradable, when you need more you are forced to buy a complete new computer. Not exactly friendly for the environment now is it like apple claims they are.

    • @Youtuber-ku4nk
      @Youtuber-ku4nk Місяць тому +1

      @@theshadowman1398
      It’s not like you would through it away. You would sell it and someone would buy it instead of a new one.

    • @theshadowman1398
      @theshadowman1398 Місяць тому +4

      @@UA-camr-ku4nk
      Simpleton, I prefer to keep my computer for many years. My 2012 3rd Gen i5 lasted me for over a decade because both storage and RAM were upgradable. And RAM modules and SSDs cost considerably less than buying a new computer

    • @jacobm2625
      @jacobm2625 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@theshadowman1398 you prove his point by saying that old computers are still usable. Some people like their stuff upgradable, some don't know or care. 🤷‍♂️

  • @pedrofonseca3116
    @pedrofonseca3116 Місяць тому +2

    Could you give us a later update on whether the K6B2 chips worked with the Mac mini? Or if they were indeed the 512Gb model as well, which we know worked. Thank you and I appreciate the hard work you put into these videos :))

  • @laurentjalaber
    @laurentjalaber Місяць тому +6

    My god ! Your old monitor is just perfect with this new Mac mini 😍

  • @ruinatorssf
    @ruinatorssf Місяць тому +8

    You're a legend for just saying you need a Sequoia machine and swapped your MacBook air for an iMac g4. I won't see anything better on the internet today.

  • @JonTrott
    @JonTrott Місяць тому +6

    You're my diversion from post-election misery. I'm not an owner of any M series Mac, but simply enjoy watching you tweak these machines. The most astonishing bits here, as always, is reballing the chip. I just know I'd blunder at that stage. You do it so deftly.

  • @HikikomoriDev
    @HikikomoriDev Місяць тому +6

    I think that will be really helpful in the future as the original SSD can burn out and you won't be able to boot the Machine any further. However, another solution is to get a high end USB C flash drive and boot the entire computer from that. Not only can you find specific sizes of USB C storage devices that can suit your need, you can also get a larger virtual memory block along with that. Then swap out the old flash drive when the cells no longer hold in years terms.

  • @zublacus
    @zublacus 26 днів тому +2

    The crazy part is manufacturing these things on an industrial scale is remarkable.

  • @shanejohns7901
    @shanejohns7901 Місяць тому +1

    @11:20 What will happen when those two giant electrolytic capacitors decide to start leaking in a number of years? I have to wonder whether or not that's an example of 'planned obsolescence' on the part of Apple.

  • @blk124
    @blk124 Місяць тому +12

    Mr dosdude you are a legend. Thank you for your efforts

  • @paco3447
    @paco3447 Місяць тому +3

    How did you manage to connect the M4 to a cinema display? I thought it was not even possible to establish communication from M4 to an old Thunderbolt Display even with the TB3 to TB4 adapter.

    • @ConnectSacred
      @ConnectSacred Місяць тому +1

      I think the one he is using is the 23" which is 1920X1200 and uses a standard DVI, so all you'd need is a standard DVI->USB-c or DVI->HDMI adapter. The original 30" apple cinema display uses dual link DVI so if you have an "active"(powered) adapter you can run it at 2560×1600. I used one on my 4,1 Mac Pro at one point but finding the adapters are hit and miss

    • @paco3447
      @paco3447 Місяць тому

      @@ConnectSacred Thanks! What about the 2011-2016 Thunderbolt Display? Seems to be only supported up to M3‘s with the TB3 to TB2 official adapter, but not longer M4’s seemingly.

    • @ConnectSacred
      @ConnectSacred Місяць тому +1

      @@paco3447 the apple cinema display 2011 use mini displayport(not thunderbolt) so I know those will work, not sure about the thunderbolt displays

  • @khalidnamry4594
    @khalidnamry4594 Місяць тому +5

    اضن ان آبل لن تكون سعيدة بما فعلت .... انت شجاع و متمكن احسنت يا رجل 🎉

  • @Thebestgamer021
    @Thebestgamer021 Місяць тому +2

    i really love every video of dosdude :D hopefully you can sucessfully upgrade this mac mini to 2 or 8tb soon ;) greetings from switzerland

  • @oshanehall3470
    @oshanehall3470 Місяць тому +1

    We need to protect this man. Also teach us the learning path so hardware enthusiasts can follow in your shoes

  • @guillermocespedes6231
    @guillermocespedes6231 Місяць тому +8

    Your expertise is in another level, thank you for sharing!

  • @KarrasBastomi
    @KarrasBastomi Місяць тому +61

    OWC would come with 2TB NAND board in a week or two for 300USD. This base M4 MacMini is GOAT.

    • @DistinctiveMusic
      @DistinctiveMusic Місяць тому +21

      I am probably able to replace the entire board, but no way I will attempt to replace the NAND chips on the board.

    • @Youtuber-ku4nk
      @Youtuber-ku4nk Місяць тому +1

      The unbinned M4 Pro is the real GOAT

    • @nq2847
      @nq2847 Місяць тому +8

      In another word, I don’t have to solder? Like just swap it and it’s ready to go?

    • @erkinalp
      @erkinalp Місяць тому +1

      @@DistinctiveMusic you need to replace both modules though (because it's not NVMe, it's raw NAND modules configured as a stripe array)

    • @DistinctiveMusic
      @DistinctiveMusic Місяць тому

      @ I meant replacing the entire PCB.

  • @Treegrower
    @Treegrower Місяць тому +17

    You're a legend! I wish this process was easier for the average person, but its still really cool that it's possible!

  • @misterfilmguy
    @misterfilmguy Місяць тому +2

    Really impressive! There is a zero percent chance of me doing this myself, but it was really interesting to watch and learn about.

  • @Brownie-956
    @Brownie-956 Місяць тому +2

    This is unintentional ASMR. Compelling to watch and listen to. Nice job 👍

  • @azhyhama9649
    @azhyhama9649 Місяць тому +3

    Not a mac user, and my first time here. Your dedication made me stay! Subbed!

  • @Samdasse
    @Samdasse Місяць тому +17

    What a quick and easy upgrade than anybody at home can do!
    Thanks god apple made it so easy for anybody to upgrade storage 😂

  • @ShaferHart
    @ShaferHart Місяць тому +4

    Thank you for showing the performance test for the base M4 every reviewer got the Pro version.

  • @LordJasonKing
    @LordJasonKing Місяць тому +1

    Wow, I was expectling at least 6 weeks befre somone had a pop at this! Well done and thanks.

  • @Keyhou
    @Keyhou Місяць тому +2

    That already awesome video got ten times cooler when plugging the brand new 2024 Mac mini to a 22 years old iMac G4 😍

  • @dayworkhard
    @dayworkhard Місяць тому +65

    Best m4 Mac mini review until now 🎉

  •  Місяць тому +6

    You may only be a DOS dude, but you are a Mac god.

  • @PearComputingDevices
    @PearComputingDevices Місяць тому +1

    Incredible job! I thank you for buying a mini and sharing this with us. I appreciate this!

  • @Muench13
    @Muench13 Місяць тому +1

    is it or will it be possible to simply by the module with higher capacity storage already installed? Then you could just swap the modules making the entire process much simpler.

  • @nightpanda2109
    @nightpanda2109 Місяць тому +9

    base Mac mini with ssd swap is great value for money 🥳

  • @barchilla10
    @barchilla10 Місяць тому +3

    FrankenMac Lives Great Work Doctor!!!

  • @taylor1038
    @taylor1038 Місяць тому +5

    Forever thankful I can just plunk an new m.2 drive in my Windows laptop or PC.

  • @Kraaketaer
    @Kraaketaer Місяць тому +1

    Awesome work as always. With these removable daughterboards for storage, am I wrong in assuming that producing replacement boards (and thus replacement "drives" with pre-soldered NAND) would be a pretty reasonable undertaking for someone with the necessary skills and resources?

  • @jim5148
    @jim5148 Місяць тому +1

    Neat video, thanks! There's no way I'm going to try this, but I just wondered.... is it pretty much impossible to re-ball the chip without a stencil?

  • @DarkPa1adin
    @DarkPa1adin Місяць тому +67

    I always love it when people do work arounds for the Apple tax

    • @6581punk
      @6581punk Місяць тому +4

      The Apple jail. Want more storage? sorry, it's a proprietary module, that'll be £800 please. If you want an easier life, use technology built around standards and interoperability.

    • @masterkamen371
      @masterkamen371 Місяць тому +3

      If I was purchasing one, I'd have gotten the base spec and put the fast USB to good use. 1 TB SSDs are like $60 nowadays. 4 TB HDDs are $85 apparently.

    • @jkj420
      @jkj420 Місяць тому

      @@6581punk That is not an easier life. Just a cheaper one.

    • @Ryzen-4090-i3n
      @Ryzen-4090-i3n Місяць тому

      @@masterkamen371 eh i saw 1 on sale for 60$ but i think it was there for more then a year so... ye apple tax is crazy

    • @abc123fhdi
      @abc123fhdi Місяць тому +1

      @@masterkamen371 true since it's not a MacBook external storage is less of an issue and still pretty fast.

  • @Gaius_Julius_Caesar
    @Gaius_Julius_Caesar Місяць тому +11

    Your business is going to skyrocket

  • @Kavyatej
    @Kavyatej Місяць тому +6

    32:40 gigabytes is technically correct

  • @emmanuelvalmas5648
    @emmanuelvalmas5648 Місяць тому

    May I ask if you use a pre heater.
    280 to 300 C usually works just for underfill cleaning, for nand removal usually 400 C does the job

  • @GhostWriter_Music
    @GhostWriter_Music Місяць тому +1

    the only thing I want out of a new mac is changeable storage, so just want to know if you would be able to just change the module later down the line? its just crap when a mac, messes up because nands go bad, making a machine really difficult to fix.

    • @dosdude1
      @dosdude1  Місяць тому

      Yeah, the module itself can be replaced with another no issue.

  • @owen-trombone
    @owen-trombone Місяць тому +9

    Gotta love the clean, black, sleek design of the INTERIOR of the Mac. Something 99.999% of owners will never see. But nevertheless Apple sweats the details and makes it look good. That’s the Jobs legacy still carrying on.

    • @ledocteur7701
      @ledocteur7701 Місяць тому +1

      it mostly just makes it harder to repair since nothing is labeled.
      You could do this whole upgrade process that involves soldering, specialized tools, and voiding your warranty. or.. you could buy a non-apple mini-PC, open it up with the easily accessible screws, unplug the standard SSD inside, and plug in a higher capacity one from any brand.
      But I guess some black paint is worth more than being consumer friendly.

    • @owen-trombone
      @owen-trombone Місяць тому +2

      @ Some people like Rolex, some people like Timex 🤷

    • @ledocteur7701
      @ledocteur7701 Місяць тому +1

      @@owen-trombone With rolex you pay for the brand, but at least the quality is the same, if not better than Timex.
      With Apple, you get straight up worse products (with a few exceptions, airpods are pretty dang good even if slightly overpriced) while also paying for the brand.
      And Apple isn't even all that exclusive anyways, someone has a rolex I'm like "This guy is rich", someone has a brand new IPhone I'm like "This guy is stupid."

    • @owen-trombone
      @owen-trombone Місяць тому +2

      @ some people just have better taste, it’s ok. One day you might get there too. I believe in you!

    • @ledocteur7701
      @ledocteur7701 Місяць тому +1

      @@owen-trombone I like my tech products to actually work well and be worth what I paid for them.
      I can't play most games on macOS, nor can I use the softwares my work requires.
      Maybe some day you'll realize computers can do more than browse the internet and edit photos, although I would be lying if I said I believe in you, seeing how brain dead all the Apple propaganda made you.

  • @leskileski
    @leskileski Місяць тому +7

    What about M4 pro model? 8TB DIY possible? Thanks

    • @KarrasBastomi
      @KarrasBastomi Місяць тому +3

      If the pro using two NAND board ala mac studio, that's very possible

  • @amitkumar-wj8gn
    @amitkumar-wj8gn Місяць тому +26

    Apple has billions.
    Dosdude has tools.
    Dosdude makes UA-cam better. Those who agree will like this comment (and yes, I am seeking attention lol).

    • @costincalit7737
      @costincalit7737 Місяць тому +2

      attention given

    • @amitkumar-wj8gn
      @amitkumar-wj8gn Місяць тому

      @@costincalit7737many thanks!!

    • @danielkinney6325
      @danielkinney6325 21 день тому

      Apple is now a TRILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS. IT HAS BEEN IN THE TRILLION $$ for a while now

  • @Bliss467
    @Bliss467 Місяць тому +2

    Congrats on successful upgrade! Very impressive. Sorry about the bad 1TB nands

  • @sob515
    @sob515 Місяць тому

    It would be great to check the Mini M4 Pro as it allows up to 8TB storage configuration. I am wondering if they used two separate slots as in Studio or some other solution.

  • @stabironabb
    @stabironabb Місяць тому +22

    Watching the power of the M4 Mac mini transform with this upgrade is amazing! It's like unleashing a whole new level of potential in an already impressive machine. Who else is thinking about upgrading theirs now

    • @StudentRadioITromso
      @StudentRadioITromso Місяць тому +1

      Definitively worthy of Upgrade @stabironabb

    • @TonyHawk33
      @TonyHawk33 Місяць тому

      Don't know what power you mean. It's literally less stress to just buy the 256gig model which also has two nands and just plug in an external ssd.

    • @Primeyy
      @Primeyy Місяць тому +1

      chatgpt ahh comment

  • @BillyBlazeTheKeenest
    @BillyBlazeTheKeenest Місяць тому +7

    You sir are a legend.

  • @EugWanker
    @EugWanker Місяць тому +8

    Great video, and nice upgrade! But what did you do about the copper foil layer?

    • @dosdude1
      @dosdude1  Місяць тому +10

      I left it omitted. It's only RF shielding for FCC compliance, not a big deal to omit in normal use.

  • @valuemastery
    @valuemastery Місяць тому

    Great! Thanks for showing how to do it. The whole process is so simple, now I can buy the cheapest Mac mini and upgrade it myself. Lots of money saved.

  • @SutboxSutty
    @SutboxSutty Місяць тому

    You Help me back in the Day with a 2012 macbook pro getting a up to date system on it i was watching this and recognised your voice only you can do this. thanks for all you do for this space. some time must pass before i try this. ha ha all he best

  • @igordasunddas3377
    @igordasunddas3377 Місяць тому +11

    Man, if Apple had sane prices and swappable components, all Macs would become a defacto standard and often a no-brainer...

    • @Speedy500
      @Speedy500 Місяць тому

      Once there is the software support for it, though then again, if Macs became dominant then the software support would follow, I wish Apple used the LPCAMM2 RAM modules rather than the LPDDR soldered modules, they have to my knowledge essentially the same performance and efficiency, it’s just that Apple would be able to focus on manufacturing the main unit with all the non changeable stuff and the throw in the proper RAM module when people select that RAM amount, you know that is what they are doing with the storage (along with the fact that it makes it so that if storage fails it can just be replaced) so why not the RAM as well, does it really save that much space to solder it

    • @babybloc
      @babybloc Місяць тому

      That’s why I was able to keep my 2012 MBP for 10 years, upgrading as needed
      But Apple wants you to upgrade more often than that. So they don’t let you upgrade anymore
      So I don’t want to buy them anymore. But are users foolish/trapped enough to change?

    • @Speedy500
      @Speedy500 Місяць тому

      @@babybloc no they don’t they want you to upgrade when they stop supporting the device, otherwise they would have give you a higher amount off of the new device when you trade in your old one, they stop supporting the model of Mac they release after like 10 years