Update on other GPUs for memory upgrades. I am currently working on a 3060 Ti to upgrade it to 16GB. Other 3000 series are work in progress. A BIOS edit would be required to double the memory on these GPUs. Once the 3060 Ti is completed a video with step by step process will be uploaded. RTX 4000 series cannot be upgraded as they all use 2GB modules and are the highest capacity modules produced to date. GPUs that can be upgraded are 3060Ti, 3070, 3080 10GB, 3080 12GB, and 3080 Ti from the 3000 lineup. The 3000 series is a work in progress starting with the 3060 Ti. Don't forget to subscribe and hit the bell to get notified when the video is released.
My setup is more suited for repairs as i use older hardware. For example my CPU is i7 3rd gen. Older hardware works well with the testing software needed for repairs. Since i am also getting into upgrade i do intend to have a benchmarking setup with the latest hardware (CPUs, GPUs etc.) so i can pitch it against each other. Until i can afford to set this up I ill try and make a basic comparison in my future videos like before and after kind of thing. 😁
@@JustGolight I mean as long as you don't overheat things and notice soldering mistakes before powering it up most things are reversible. But it's still pretty cool and impressive.
@@rhl2macwan simply not possible. The 4070 Super has a 192bit bus, aka 6 chips with 2GB (16GBit). GDDR6 was also specificied with 24Gb chips (so 3GB), that would be 18GB, but these chips simply do not exist. Same with 24GB ram, this would require 32GBit (4GB) chips, which simply do not exist (yet) or are not available for sale (there were rumours 2 years ago Samsung had such chips)
The 2080 Ti came out with a fairly optimal memory config, but cards like the 3060 Ti, 3070 and 3080 10GB are prime candidates for this kind of upgrade, as they can much more readily utilize the extra RAM. Still awesome that you're able to do this at all, of course.
I’m a dumbass and got a 3080Ti vice a 3090 at a Best Buy-camp-overnight event back in 2021. For $200 more I could have got a 3090…. I was planning on getting a 3080 and by the time they got to me in the line to mark me down for a card, those were my only options and I guess I fixated on not going top tier although I should have… 😂
I might be too old, but back in the days, graphic cards had free slots/sockets for memory upgrades. You could upgrade its ram as easy as you could upgrade the system's ram.
I remember reading or hearing somewhere that they stopped doing that because of the speed that VRAM needs to have in order to load assets and stuff fast. It supposedly is a much faster processor and needs higher speed to function properly. My opinion? Yeah, it would be awesome if we could add VRAM by switching sticks or something.
I ran a company a few years back with my dad that repaired ECUs in the motor industry. You remind me of him. Honestly the best channel I've found in months. Good on you for keeping older tech going!
I really appreciate your kind words! It's heartwarming to know that my channel reminds you of such meaningful memories with your dad. Thank you for being part of this community!
@@vedob5163 I use it for stable diffusion image generation stuff, sometimes require a lot of vram to do certain things. The 2080ti is a very good card for it in terms of price/performance. And it undervolts very well, I'm running it at 150w. It as fast as a 4070 in terms of fp16 performance. You can do 16gb on a 3070 as well, slightly slower for SD work.
This was in my recommended videos and I see why I will say I'm truly impressed I subscribed because I can't wait to see more but this is genuinely the first ive ever seen of an individual doing something at this level 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I doubt I could ever replicate this but would be fun to play around with a card like this and see how it stacks up to its traditional relatives
Thanks brother for doing upgrades for my gpu , so wait for next mod i have other things 😂upcoming . I hope this video becomes famous for everyone. Peace ✌️
For anyone interested to upgrade the memory for gaming actually it’s not worth at all you will not get any benefit. So i did this mod to try if it’s worth for workstation stuff . Thanks 🙏
@@alialbeloshi5425It will offer better performance going from 8GB to 16GB, since you get worse performance when you have low VRAM because swapping into system RAM is slower and will tank performance, that's why the 16GB 4060 Ti is faster than 8GB 4060 Ti
@@iitzfizzfalse, it's not only a vram difference between the 8 and 16gb. Texture rate and tmu is less on the 8gb than 16gb that's why there's a performance difference
one reason to have more vram on an older card is so that you can do 3D animation rendering with it. GPU based 3D rendering requires you to load the model into VRAM for each card so the amount of VRAM becomes a limit to the complexity of scene that you can render. more VRAM equals more complex scenes. You can also use multiple cards and split which cell they render to improve render times but you cannot stack VRAM so having more VRAM is very helpful. keep up the good work.
Thank you for applying the thermal paste properly, man. I've seen so many videos of people maintaining or repairing graphics cards, and they don't spread the paste, meaning that parts of the silicon are at risk of not getting cooled properly. Spread paste if on bare core/silicon/diffusion barrier. Use whatever method you want if it's on a IHS.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql don't worry, I am. I use two coats of liquid electrical tape on SMCs before I spread it on a die. IHS application is easier.
“Messing with the internals voids the warranty”, is a good piece of advice for the average consumer. It doesn’t matter as much when you’re so good with hardware that you don’t need a warranty.
BGA work isn't really that difficult if you have a general idea of what you're supposed to do and not do. My first foray into modding GPU's was upgrading my 750 Ti 2gb to 4gb. It was surprisingly easy.
o_O Not sure why this popped up in my recommendeds, but watching this is giving me nightmares of doing manual rework on prototype surface mount boards back in the day, which I was *very* aware were worth more than my annual salary at the time - I was told to take as much time as I needed for that run, since the premium was very much on precision & not killing components or boards. Talk about stressful!! On the upside, to my knowledge, I never killed anything. Nice bonus at the end of that run too! :) Much respect to anyone doing this kind of manual rework - kudos.
you have that heating mat in phone mode. It only heats the center of the pad. If you hold down the M button, it goes into tablet mode and heats the whole pad and also heats up faster.
AMAZING. And I am only 10 minutes in. I wish I knew how to do this stuff. I wish I had the brain capacity to even learn just a little of what you know. I get very nervous just pulling the stock cooling off and adding waterblocks the few times that I have done it. This is next level! I actually have 2 2080ti Asus Strix just laying around not doing anything anymore as I have already moved up to 3090's and now a 4090 since. I wonder if they are still worth anything. Maybe a PC for my grandkids. Great video you are a master!
@@meade916 It is truly ridiculous that SLI has been abandoned. There is literally no legitimate reason except apathy. After I built my first gaming PC in 2008 I bought a second GTX 260 and used SLI until I upgraded to a GTX 570. I never attemped SLI again simply because there were so few games that benefited from it, and often if it worked, the gain was only 60% or less. SLI works --- it's just that nobody cared enough to properly code for it.
Very impressive! My question is: How did you know what to do ? From where? Could you tell more about "straps" ? What are they? For what? What are they doing? What exactly did you set to high. You are VERY VERY underrated. To change the chips is easy for you and all people who have to do with those kind of repairs but your knowlegde is much more interesting to me. In any case more knowledge than I have 🙂
All information about straps is available in the schematic of the GPU. It also mentions how the configuration should be. For example 1 stands for high and 0 stands for low and M strands for medium. 1 connects 100k resistor to 1.8v, for 0 the resistor is connected to ground. As you play around you will get the hang of it. Start reading schematics it's fun. It gives a lot of insights.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql Thank you! I would never had thought that I would have to read the GPU schematics for a VRAM replacement :-) Even for more VRAM. I thought it would be a firmware thing :-) Thank you!
I think I have the same questions like you 😉😅. I have here one Radeon VII who quit service some years ago. The only thing I have done at this time, is to install a new driver. I always uninstall the older version, before. I had asked the official support from AMD here in Germany, and they were very interested in that. They told me I should send this card to the service. I think I'll use this option for the first time. And when they say they cannot make anything, or repair, then I'll ask this technician. He's absolutely amazing. Such detailed knowledge, I wonder 🧐🤔 where he did got this learned.
If I was a betting man I'd put money on the cut down die being fused off, regardless if the entire core was functional or not. It's also possible that the GPU is hard coded and it would just refuse to run but it'd be an interesting experiment. I just don't see Nvidia allowing this to happen but I'm surprised even the denser modules works on the same bios so who knows.
damn that is a really is a great idea I would like to see a fallow up with the customer to see if the GPU is still stable over a long period of time other then that an amazing video. You said you would look at other GPU to do as well if you would be so kind as to upgrade an older card like a 1080 or 1660 just so we all know it can be done. your doing amazing work keep it up!
Thank you 😁. The user of this GPU has commented on this video. 1080 already uses the highest possible memory compatible with it GDDR5X. There is no upgrade path ahead. 1660 is barely able to exceed its current memory buffer. GPUs like 30 series can benefit from this upgrade.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql thank you for replying to my comment I see where your going with the memory for the 1660 I kind of figured and its good to know that the mod is still working as it should great video
Absolutely love the video ! Im very happy to see stuff like this being done. EWaste is a problem and stuff like this is a good solution. If you are wondering about the memory upgrade and why someone would want this , it does allow play at higher resolution for gaming. Most importantly tho , it allows multiple graphic intensive processes to run at once. This benefits Virtual machines , 3d modeling , game developers , and video editors. Even with multiple monitors this will make a difference. I would be happy to go over testing methods with you if needed.
Thank you 😊. My setup is more suited for repair. I am planning to build a test bench for benchmarks and comparisons. Maybe soon as I am able to stretch my pockets. 😁
Someday, I will be able to afford a PC again. Breaking ones neck and all really does hamper life. Nevertheless, I wanted to say thank you. It's wonderful to see all the work and efforts. To learn from you. I really appreciate you.
@Tekilafiend33 Thanks, mydude... this neck brace sucks... and my arm is stuck to my chest, but... I can game still, kinda. It's likely why I'm having a hard time. But I can still walk and everything. So, I really can't cry about it. Broken clavicle is healing well, too. So... and... insurance coverage is finally going to pay out my GPU, only I won't be able to M&K. I tried with my mouse close, but I just couldn't move it. So, controller it is. The game is getting more fun as I unlock stuff, too, so You folks are super cool, mad respect, and I appreciate you both greatly.
@@LordDudeious glad to hear than man I least from what I can tell, you’re taking it head on and with a great attitude Take care brother and have a great day 😀
I'm using an Infrared Cooker Plate (for cooking) and it's very good even for doing a GPU reball. I wanted to buy a Puhui T8280 but I saw a video of a russian dude doing GPU reball with a IR cooking plate and I tried to do it myself. It's very efficient for GPUs but not good with big PCB boards like ATX Motherboards because those need a big heating surface (the board flexes / wrap so bad when the temperature is not uniform on the whole board).
T8280 has slow cool down and uniform heating. The cooking plate do not have these features. It will popcorn your pcb. You will also need a 600w or higher hot air station, preferably Atten ST-862D.
I remember the days using ceramic plates and I killed a lot of cores. Luckily they were mine so I have no regrets. But I learned a lot. Since then I moved to a 3 zone rework station and never looked back.
@@NaN_INF it's safe with GPU PCB boards when you know how to use it. I've replaced a lot of Cores with it and I can say I have no problem anymore right know. Of course I've toasted a lot of cores before mastering it but knowledge requires experience so I'm okay today. But my goal is not the Puhui T8280 but at least an IR 6000 or higher.
Yes i agree. I still have my old modified gortak preheater with an external controller. Now a days its on the shelf retired. May be i will find some use of it again some day. I'm sure it still has its use case and the best suited when the 3 zone is too large for a job. I will make a video on it someday 😁.
First time on your channel... What a wonderful upgrade... I used to fix the motherboard using a hair dryer long ago not anymore 😂😂😂.... Watching you I was in a zone.. wow ... Keep uploading such wonderful videos...
It's hard to say if it's worth it for gaming, ie, 12GB is close to recommended 16GB min, but I do remember a Hardware Unboxed vid where extra memory allowed the textures to full form, ie, not enough memory and they are rough blob renders. They even showed a GPU render properly when started, but after 20min it ran out of memory and the pic became worse. Basically it's the cost, like is the $300 swap ok for a 10% better appearance in games.
Thank you for sharing 😁. An upgrade like this for gaming will hardly make any difference except for those AAA games which require a bigger buffer to load textures. Unless you have specific needs for higher memory this upgrade will make little to no difference. You guys using higher memory GPUs are the best source to tell the community if it's worth it. Happy to have you onboard.
I have not used VR. If you have used it then you are better equipped to answer this question and it will deffinitly help the community. Thank you for sharing 😁.
what i really think that would be really useful is to upgrade in Laptop, because Laptops are very restricted in terms of grafics, but its posible to upgrade a dedicated graficscard on laptop?
Wow the driver is just fine with a 22GB 2080Ti? I always heard these memory upgrades (like the 3070 16GB upgrade) resulted in a slightly confused/angry driver. A 22GB 2080Ti is probably a great choice for Stable Diffusion etc. I know 3090 24GB cards are highly prized by people running these applications and can be quite expensive/hard to find despite being quite old now. A 2080Ti with a 22GB upgrade might be quite appealing, I know the price of 2080 cards has fallen quite a lot and is maybe only 20-30% slower than a 3090 in these applications.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql Very cool, definitely a worthwhile upgrade. I calculate theoretical FP16 performance to be 25% less than 3090 so maybe worth it, how much would you charge for an upgrade like this?
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql Wow! Just $75 ? In Germany you wouldn´t be able to do that work for such a price. Our government steal more than the half of our money. They call it tax. Otherwise I would offer it too - and much more 😕
This has kind of blown me away to be honest. I don't know the answer to your question but I know Premiere can sometimes run out of memory so possibly for some productivity tasks but I'm a coder and graphics guy not a video producer or electronics expert so I'm guessing.
Hi Fraser.. I do have an MSI 4070 Super TI that got a little hot behind temperate glass, and it is possible that one of the phase capacitors fizzled out, and now I have a coil wine noise. Other than that, the card works great. Still under warranty.
Coil winning is also caused when you split one cable into 2. Since you are using a 4070 Ti Super I assume you are using a 16 to either 2 8 pin or 16 to 3 8 pin connector. If this is the case check if the power cables that you are using are directly coming from the PSU individually and not split from one. Let me know if this is the case.
@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql now you got me thinking, maybe the PSU is injecting the noise. I will swap the GPU with a similar Ventus 2X card since I have two similar cards, one 12gddr and the other 16gddr .. Temps never got above 80degC although the glass was hot to the touch .. but I heard a fizzled noise. I'll try and get an RMA ticket with MSI.
AMAZING It will be ideal if you can post. 1. How much the upgraded RAM chips cost 2. How much for your work 3. What was the intention and EXPECTATIONS from the person who commissioned the work (game, video edit, blockchain or AI) 4. Did the person actually got the performance expected? more performance?, less performance? , what metrics were they using?
The cost of upgrading this 2080Ti including the memory is $220. This user wanted this upgrade for AI. The last conversation with the user was he was able to utilise the memory to run larger data sets. Since this was my first upgrade video I did not expect much interest. Mine is a small repair channel. I will include benchmarks and other stuff in my future videos.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql 220 bucks for all the work and the memory chips? Bro that's insanely cheap. Especially if you count all the hours of work and equipment you are using. I have swapped a single memory module once. And it was not easy.even with the right equipment. Hats off to you sir! Keep up the great job. But I am still curious how you managed to get the schematics of the 2080Ti strix. I'm also very interested in those
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7qlI think this could be a hugely popular service especially for newer generation cards with the newer tensor cores. A 3080TI or 3090 with 40gb+ would be a game changer for AI models, and could easily be worth the cost being $1000+
As of now, RTX 4090 cannot be upgraded beyond 24GB of VRAM. Micron GDDR6X is only available in 2GB modules in 21Gbps and 24Gbps. Though it is possible to install 24Gbps modules (supported) to increase the bandwidth however the capacity cannot be increased. The returns on investment in upgrading from 21Gbps to 24Gbps modules will be negligible and benefit minimal (It is a theory based on calculations and yet to be tested though.) If in the future I get my hands on a 4090 and a user is willing, I will put this to the test and measure the difference in performance. If in the future Nvidia launches an RTX 4090 Ti or a 5090 it will be launched with the 24Gbps modules. (Speculation) It's the same with 7900XT or XTX. 7900 XT and XTX use GDDR6 memory and the bandwidth of each module is 20Gbps. Samsung is sampling a 24Gbps memory but it is still sampled and not mass-produced. So for 7900 XT and XTX we are using the top possible memory.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql Thanks! I have zero soldering experience. Do you think it's possible for me to do this memory swap if I watch some UA-cam videos on how to solder (including yours) and buy a dead GPU to practice on? And are the soldering tools expensive?
@@tonyd7644 Buying dead boards to practice is a good idea. You can practice all sort of things. once you are confident practice on older working hardware then switch to the new ones. remember its much harder to remove a chip on a 30 series and 40 series card than a older generation. quality of solder is different. Higher temperature are required to replac components.
It should work but the firmware limits the maximum frequency and there's no practical way around this. Basically it'd let you overclock the memory as much as possible without any concern but stock chips can all typically handle a decent speed bump already so you really wouldn't get enough out of it to be worthwhile.
@@JJFX- more than just firmware (it can be modified) but also the core's imc must also be able to run at higher speeds to remain stable. At least as far as i know, unless you are able to change gearing or straps to allow different dividers / timing.
hell yeah dude these are the people we need who can keep old tech in service just because it doesn't have enough memory doesn't mean it can't keep up with modern games.
for some reason, I find your videos relaxing. Maybe because of the background music. I sub right away. Now I know that GPU memory can be upgraded. I always thought that its a done deal and cannot be upgraded. More subs to your channel!
30:00 There are cases where it is very useful for gaming, for example in Cyberpunk 2077 with mods, ray tracing and framegen (lossless scaling). The memory upgrade is beneficial wherever even a little more than the standard 11 GB would be needed, even if the full 22 GB would not be used. Is Furmark the right test in this case since it only uses 627MB of VRAM? Too bad RTX 4000 cards can't be upgraded.
Thank you for sharing. Yes there are games which will utilise more than 11Gb and this upgrade will be useful. Furmark is not useful to check memory utilisation. I tested for stability. In fact I did not expect a huge interest from a small channel like mine. Normal test I do for repairs, I ran for this upgrade as well. But I will include the right tests like OCCT and others in my future videos. Thank you once again 😁
Yes for gaming it does not make sense. There is no performance increase. Only games that exceed the 11GB buffer can benefit. In my opinion a handful of games. Unless you have a requirement for AI of something. 😁
RTX 3070 is one of the cards that I highly recommend to upgrade for the channel author running these videos It is still quite an able card, but it does tend to cap out in terms of power limits and GPU memory, because it is simply 8 GBs
I have been tempted to do the same. But BM-HC14 and BM-HC16 are expensive chips, being 2GB. Maybe if I come across some extra chips I wouldn't mind using on my 2080Ti I will. But I never get the chance. Fun video man! Good music btw!
I am planning a similar upgrade on a 3060ti. What do you think? I have HC-16 memory which I would want to try. I'm wondering how this upgrade would stack this GPU against a 4060 ti
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql Why not go with D8BGX GDDR6X (the 21Gb version)? As you know, there are 3060Ti's in the wild with GDDR6X, like the one I have here waiting to be picked up. However, given that 448.0 GB/s on the GDDR6 HC-14 (14 Gbps) vs 608.3 GB/s on GDDR6X (19 Gbps) version makes almost 0 difference in terms of performance, I highly doubt going from HC-14 to HC-16 would make sense. But going to GDDR6X with higher speeds might make a difference. The only way to find out is to actually try it :) Though I do not know if even with the GDDR6X BIOS, the card will run at the higher speeds and actually run the card at 21Gbps on D8BGX GDDR6X 😕
The GDDR6X 3060Ti trace connection on the PCB are different. GDDR6X will not work work on GRRD6 PCB. pin out layout is different. Data pins layout is not the same.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql Ah I did not know that! Since I use the same stencil for re-balling GDDR6 and GDDR6X. But the ball pinout having a different data layout is a deal breaker! But regarding your original idea, I think it would be a waste of VRAM, since GDDR6X has already been proven to make no performance difference against the Samsung HC14 chips, let alone HC16 which is still slower than GDDR6X D8BGW at 19Gbps. And HC16 is so expensive for me, I'm careful with it LOL
Very good video ! Continue with the hard work . Im happy to see the channel is growing . I've never seen the inside work of upgrading cards . Thanks for teaching some of us .
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql Hello, would you provide this service internationally? If a card was sent to you could you upgrade it and send it back and how much would you charge for double the ram on a 3070? Thanks, great video, so interesting to watch such a skilled job. Best of luck from Ireland !
Well the capacity has increased but not the bandwidth or the bus width. Games with high VRAM usages will benefit from it to load textures but how this will impact frames is yet untested.
I would to have this done to a 3080, to go from 10GB to 20GB of VRAM. That would make a real 4K high settings gaming GPU out of one that never had enough VRAM from new. I have nothing close to the knowledge or skill to pull this off.
I hope you like this video 😁. Yes, you will require skills to replace memory. but skill is built over time with practice. If you start to practice (starting with dead boards) you will build the required skill over time.
I believe the 3070 had issues having only 8 GB which is the same power as a 2080 TI but maybe 11 is fine considering consoles that had 10 was the target for most developers 2 years ago but we have had some games pop out that used up all that 11 maybe like one or two so who knows maybe he just wants the future proof it but I'm leaning towards to what you said that it's kind of Overkill considering the raw performance of the card will be outkast sooner than needing the extra memory
Sure I can fix your GPU. You can book your repair by filling in the repair form below and follow the instructions. You will receive a case ID after you fill in the form. graphicscardrepairs.com/repair-request/
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql i just booked the repair if you ever have time to make a video on what i have to do , or about the process, or if you have a video please post the link here
You will receive instructions by email. You will have to ship your GPU to the address mentioned in the email. I have not actioned the booking yet but it will be actioned in the morning. Just wait for the email. I will follow-up with your once your case is actioned
I had a question, Where do you buy the vram and other Gpu components people use for repairing GPUs. Always see people repair or modify them but never where to buy basic components. Thanks!
getting a 3090 is still probably better, 2080ti with the chips would cost 450€ and if u get a 3090 for 600€ u have a newer card, pcie 4.0, gddr6x, 2gb more, 32bit bigger bus, better performance overall
3090 went up in price last time I checked. 2080ti and 3080 have gone down. The 2080ti has much lower power draw, undervolts to 150w easily and still fast in stable diffusion. Priced could change a lot once next gen drops. I would do 2080ti if you were to run it for long sessions or go with 4000 series. 3090 is a good option too if you aren't too concerned about power usage. The repair guy games its possible on the 3080 as well.
I was so relaxed watching this. For some reason though I started getting stressed out when I noticed M7 wasn't purdy like the others. Sigh of relief when he redid it before placing the memory. 😅 Amazing work. Any plans to play with AMD or Intel?
Unfortunately none of the 40 series can be upgraded. It already uses 2GB memory modules which is the highest capacity produced on GDDR6X platform. It also has only 12 memory slots.
I'd be curious to see before and after benchmarks. The cache and memory bus on that card is designed for 11gb. Doubling the memory capacity has to cause a bottleneck somewhere right?
I did not expect such great interest in this upgrade, specifically from a small channel like mine. My setup is not equipped for benchmarks and stuff. It's more suited for repairs work. But I my upcoming upgrade videos I will include some sort of benchmark for reference. Now the memory bus is absolutely fine. 352bit bus is capable enough with 616Gbps of memory bandwidth. But I would still not recommend this upgrade for gaming. There is no difference in performance except in those games which require to load textures and need more than the 11Gb memory buffer. Apart from that there are no other benefits in gaming. AI is another ball game. This user got this upgrade down for AI.
Why is M11 memory slot unpopulated? why unusually 11gb to 22gb upgrade? wouldn't it be like 12gb to 24gb upgrade in general? what was the initial problem to start with?
RTX 2080 Ti does not use the full die. The full die is used by the RTX Titan. So it has only 11 memory slots active. The upgrade path is always double so a 2080 Ti can only be upgraded to 22GB. The 12th slot is disabled from the core. Installing memory in the empty slot will not work. 😁
I will make a video soon. For gaming the only benefit is in AAA games that utilize more than 11GB VRAM. The frame rates are smoother. Better 1% lows, you can use full texture settings. Apart from this there are no other benefits. If you want to use AI stuff I am told it is a better option to run larger scripts or sequences. I have not tested anything myself as these cards I upgraded were for a customer. Both cards. This information I can provide based on what he had to say. I did not expect an overwhelming response. In my next upgrade I will do the tests and release a video.
This is more like it! Ah so cool, wish I still had my 2080ti. I think I need to use more flux with my repairs. Nice work! This would be excellent for some local LLM/Sable diffusion stuff and of course some gaming :) Thank you!
Would be nice to have a fully populated board, all the extra memory, and power stability bits. I know most are redundant, in the case some trace is bad in the fab, they can just use one of the extras. _They do the same when it comes to binning CPU and GPU cores; use the bits that work._ But it would be nice to have all the parts functioning.
Just wow, your skill is amazing. I am stuned and in awe. The YT algorythm made a great recommendation too. I rarely do subscribe but you need to be seen and heard of. Now the toughts. Yes games are not gona even touch all the memory but Mining, ohh boy with all that fast memory etherium based algorythms gona love it. AI, rendering, folding, modeling, moding is going to be great. After all just the that flex on unlocking the full potential of a GPU is worth seeing.
In my opinion it also works well in games, also because there is not yet a gaming product that uses even just 8 GB, it is not a question of memory but of other implementations, such as the articulation, which for that type of card Turing, while the 3080 is Ampere. I in the Asus rog laptop that for the home can be updated to a maximum of 32 GB, I bring 64 GB, the software launched as cpuid z show 64 GB, but when I launch the bios, it tells me that they are 32, the maximum it can accept.
Update on other GPUs for memory upgrades. I am currently working on a 3060 Ti to upgrade it to 16GB. Other 3000 series are work in progress. A BIOS edit would be required to double the memory on these GPUs. Once the 3060 Ti is completed a video with step by step process will be uploaded. RTX 4000 series cannot be upgraded as they all use 2GB modules and are the highest capacity modules produced to date. GPUs that can be upgraded are 3060Ti, 3070, 3080 10GB, 3080 12GB, and 3080 Ti from the 3000 lineup. The 3000 series is a work in progress starting with the 3060 Ti. Don't forget to subscribe and hit the bell to get notified when the video is released.
What is the price on that upgrade? U should simply make a video before after performance and compare performance to 4000 series.
My setup is more suited for repairs as i use older hardware. For example my CPU is i7 3rd gen. Older hardware works well with the testing software needed for repairs. Since i am also getting into upgrade i do intend to have a benchmarking setup with the latest hardware (CPUs, GPUs etc.) so i can pitch it against each other. Until i can afford to set this up I ill try and make a basic comparison in my future videos like before and after kind of thing. 😁
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql How much to upgrade 4070 Ti memory from 12gb to 16gb? from australia
RTX 4000 series cannot be upgraded as they are already using 2GB modules and its the highest memory module produced so far.
Dude, you are doing amazing work. Looking forward to the upgrades for the 3000 series card. Will you be doing the 3070 ti too?
It never ceases to amaze me how microscopic work some people do and make it look easy. Absolutely brilliant!
Thank you 😁
When actually in reality once you mess it up its fricked up
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7qlHow much will it costs to upgrade a low speck graphics card.
@@JustGolight I mean as long as you don't overheat things and notice soldering mistakes before powering it up most things are reversible. But it's still pretty cool and impressive.
Yeah real stable hands. Should be a surgeon
Nvidia is not gonna like this guy 😂😂
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@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql where is ur shop btw and is it possible to increase the 4070 super from 12gb to 16gb or 24gb
Let's hope they give us more vram on the rtx 5070 midrange,12gb is not going to cut it for anything over 400 dollars.
@@rhl2macwan simply not possible. The 4070 Super has a 192bit bus, aka 6 chips with 2GB (16GBit).
GDDR6 was also specificied with 24Gb chips (so 3GB), that would be 18GB, but these chips simply do not exist.
Same with 24GB ram, this would require 32GBit (4GB) chips, which simply do not exist (yet) or are not available for sale (there were rumours 2 years ago Samsung had such chips)
@@rhl2macwanBe cheaper to just sell it and buy a 16GB 4070ti super
The 2080 Ti came out with a fairly optimal memory config, but cards like the 3060 Ti, 3070 and 3080 10GB are prime candidates for this kind of upgrade, as they can much more readily utilize the extra RAM. Still awesome that you're able to do this at all, of course.
I have one just for you.
ua-cam.com/video/EM1UL4GHviU/v-deo.html Part 2 will come out soon
Just get the 3090 it had 24gb already lol
@@LeaveNoEvident128 I want to see a 48GB 3090 instead.
+4070 12gb
I’m a dumbass and got a 3080Ti vice a 3090 at a Best Buy-camp-overnight event back in 2021. For $200 more I could have got a 3090…. I was planning on getting a 3080 and by the time they got to me in the line to mark me down for a card, those were my only options and I guess I fixated on not going top tier although I should have… 😂
bro really made 2080 Ti Super😂
Yes a Super indeed 😁. happy you have you onboard.
It's more of a Titan now
2080ti ultra instinct
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql time to add the most beefy cooling and overclock it to the max
its 2090
This man over here breaking the mold
😁
@@rambosaurusrex449 so true
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql how is possible
I might be too old, but back in the days, graphic cards had free slots/sockets for memory upgrades. You could upgrade its ram as easy as you could upgrade the system's ram.
A lot has changed 😁. And so is the weight of these cards. Glad to have you on my channel. Welcome. 😁
If we ever lose all the people who remember, who think like this, the world will parish ..unless it's already gone
Ari in the houuuse
what are the names of these gpus?
I remember reading or hearing somewhere that they stopped doing that because of the speed that VRAM needs to have in order to load assets and stuff fast. It supposedly is a much faster processor and needs higher speed to function properly. My opinion? Yeah, it would be awesome if we could add VRAM by switching sticks or something.
I ran a company a few years back with my dad that repaired ECUs in the motor industry. You remind me of him. Honestly the best channel I've found in months. Good on you for keeping older tech going!
I really appreciate your kind words! It's heartwarming to know that my channel reminds you of such meaningful memories with your dad. Thank you for being part of this community!
Sir aney used 12gb gpu
The guy's like a neuro surgeon!
Props to those steady hands and your skill!
Thank you 😊
I've been wanting to do this for my GPU for the longest time. I will use your video as reference. I started getting all the equipment I need for it.
Great. I wish you all the best. Remember never give up
What does upgrading the memory do for it?
@@vedob5163 I use it for stable diffusion image generation stuff, sometimes require a lot of vram to do certain things. The 2080ti is a very good card for it in terms of price/performance. And it undervolts very well, I'm running it at 150w. It as fast as a 4070 in terms of fp16 performance. You can do 16gb on a 3070 as well, slightly slower for SD work.
Thank you for sharing that info. Its really helpful specially for someone looking for options in the same workspace.
Practice on dead gpus first. Never a good one
This is fantastic! Never new this solution could be applied to current cards. Well done mate! You have a new fan 👍🏾👍🏾
Thank you 😁. It means a lot to me.
21:30 I had no idea they used the resistors like old school dip switches or jumpers. Thanks for the videos! Helps demystify graphics cards!
can you explain what he did there? Why he replaced these resistors?
@@IamSoulfuller he didnt replace them, he just moved them to a different position (from low to high)
This was in my recommended videos and I see why
I will say I'm truly impressed
I subscribed because I can't wait to see more but this is genuinely the first ive ever seen of an individual doing something at this level 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I doubt I could ever replicate this but would be fun to play around with a card like this and see how it stacks up to its traditional relatives
Glade to have you onboard. Welcome 😁
Thanks brother for doing upgrades for my gpu , so wait for next mod i have other things 😂upcoming . I hope this video becomes famous for everyone. Peace ✌️
Thank you for the opportunity. 😁
For anyone interested to upgrade the memory for gaming actually it’s not worth at all you will not get any benefit. So i did this mod to try if it’s worth for workstation stuff . Thanks 🙏
@@alialbeloshi5425It will offer better performance going from 8GB to 16GB, since you get worse performance when you have low VRAM because swapping into system RAM is slower and will tank performance, that's why the 16GB 4060 Ti is faster than 8GB 4060 Ti
@@iitzfizzfalse, it's not only a vram difference between the 8 and 16gb.
Texture rate and tmu is less on the 8gb than 16gb that's why there's a performance difference
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql i got two in nv-link if you wanna do it again lol
one reason to have more vram on an older card is so that you can do 3D animation rendering with it. GPU based 3D rendering requires you to load the model into VRAM for each card so the amount of VRAM becomes a limit to the complexity of scene that you can render. more VRAM equals more complex scenes. You can also use multiple cards and split which cell they render to improve render times but you cannot stack VRAM so having more VRAM is very helpful. keep up the good work.
had no idea this could be done!
Hope you like the video. 😁
Can this be done to a gtx 1070. Would it even be worth doing
@@williamclark206 no, just upgrade at that point
No. This GPU is at its end of line. It already has the maximum memory capacity on its platform.
Soldered power 🙏 how do u think them bits ended up on that board first place
Thank you for applying the thermal paste properly, man. I've seen so many videos of people maintaining or repairing graphics cards, and they don't spread the paste, meaning that parts of the silicon are at risk of not getting cooled properly. Spread paste if on bare core/silicon/diffusion barrier. Use whatever method you want if it's on a IHS.
I have the same view as you. Happy to have you onboard. 😃
I'm so used to using liquid metal, I forgot about that
I would be very careful using liquid metal. 😁
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql don't worry, I am. I use two coats of liquid electrical tape on SMCs before I spread it on a die. IHS application is easier.
“Messing with the internals voids the warranty”, is a good piece of advice for the average consumer. It doesn’t matter as much when you’re so good with hardware that you don’t need a warranty.
I do a lot of fine pitch mods/installs, but I have so much respect for BGA work. I don't think I could ever reach this level of skill.
Thank you 😁.
BGA work isn't really that difficult if you have a general idea of what you're supposed to do and not do.
My first foray into modding GPU's was upgrading my 750 Ti 2gb to 4gb. It was surprisingly easy.
Easy for you,because you have the knowledge and the skill to do this things.
Apreciate your hard work!!
I love what people like you can do. Such talent
Thank you 😁
Your whole project from working on the video and working on the gpu "just looks perfect" 👌🏼
Thanks!😁
o_O
Not sure why this popped up in my recommendeds, but watching this is giving me nightmares of doing manual rework on prototype surface mount boards back in the day, which I was *very* aware were worth more than my annual salary at the time - I was told to take as much time as I needed for that run, since the premium was very much on precision & not killing components or boards. Talk about stressful!! On the upside, to my knowledge, I never killed anything. Nice bonus at the end of that run too! :)
Much respect to anyone doing this kind of manual rework - kudos.
Thank you 😊
you have that heating mat in phone mode. It only heats the center of the pad. If you hold down the M button, it goes into tablet mode and heats the whole pad and also heats up faster.
Man you are my saviour. I used to think this pad sucks as it was heating only one area. Thank you bro 😁
not a bug ... a feature :D
AMAZING. And I am only 10 minutes in. I wish I knew how to do this stuff. I wish I had the brain capacity to even learn just a little of what you know. I get very nervous just pulling the stock cooling off and adding waterblocks the few times that I have done it. This is next level! I actually have 2 2080ti Asus Strix just laying around not doing anything anymore as I have already moved up to 3090's and now a 4090 since. I wonder if they are still worth anything. Maybe a PC for my grandkids. Great video you are a master!
Thank you 😊. You can start practicing on dead boards will improve your skill.
*"I actually have 2 2080ti Asus Strix just laying around..."*
Did you ever try them in SLI?
@@bricaaron3978 of course. That is the only way I ever ran 2 cards back then. SLI is obsolete now though...
@@meade916 It is truly ridiculous that SLI has been abandoned. There is literally no legitimate reason except apathy.
After I built my first gaming PC in 2008 I bought a second GTX 260 and used SLI until I upgraded to a GTX 570. I never attemped SLI again simply because there were so few games that benefited from it, and often if it worked, the gain was only 60% or less.
SLI works --- it's just that nobody cared enough to properly code for it.
Very impressive! My question is: How did you know what to do ? From where? Could you tell more about "straps" ? What are they? For what? What are they doing? What exactly did you set to high. You are VERY VERY underrated. To change the chips is easy for you and all people who have to do with those kind of repairs but your knowlegde is much more interesting to me. In any case more knowledge than I have 🙂
All information about straps is available in the schematic of the GPU. It also mentions how the configuration should be. For example 1 stands for high and 0 stands for low and M strands for medium. 1 connects 100k resistor to 1.8v, for 0 the resistor is connected to ground. As you play around you will get the hang of it. Start reading schematics it's fun. It gives a lot of insights.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql Thank you! I would never had thought that I would have to read the GPU schematics for a VRAM replacement :-) Even for more VRAM. I thought it would be a firmware thing :-) Thank you!
If it's in the schematic then it is in the BIOS and drivers as well.
I think I have the same questions like you 😉😅.
I have here one Radeon VII who quit service some years ago. The only thing I have done at this time, is to install a new driver. I always uninstall the older version, before.
I had asked the official support from AMD here in Germany, and they were very interested in that. They told me I should send this card to the service. I think I'll use this option for the first time.
And when they say they cannot make anything, or repair, then I'll ask this technician. He's absolutely amazing. Such detailed knowledge, I wonder 🧐🤔 where he did got this learned.
nice video straight to the point good quality. subbed
Thank you. Happy to have you onboard. 😁
Man this vid is great. Perfect combo of narration + demonstration & that music fit so well. Got my sub
Thank you 😊. Welcome onboard.
Very interesting. I wonder what would happen if you put a chip on the empty 12th pad and flashed an RTX Titan bios to the card?
Hmmm now that's something on the table. If I get another 2080 ti I will experiment.
If I was a betting man I'd put money on the cut down die being fused off, regardless if the entire core was functional or not. It's also possible that the GPU is hard coded and it would just refuse to run but it'd be an interesting experiment.
I just don't see Nvidia allowing this to happen but I'm surprised even the denser modules works on the same bios so who knows.
damn that is a really is a great idea I would like to see a fallow up with the customer to see if the GPU is still stable over a long period of time other then that an amazing video.
You said you would look at other GPU to do as well if you would be so kind as to upgrade an older card like a 1080 or 1660 just so we all know it can be done.
your doing amazing work keep it up!
Thank you 😁. The user of this GPU has commented on this video. 1080 already uses the highest possible memory compatible with it GDDR5X. There is no upgrade path ahead. 1660 is barely able to exceed its current memory buffer. GPUs like 30 series can benefit from this upgrade.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql thank you for replying to my comment I see where your going with the memory for the 1660 I kind of figured and its good to know that the mod is still working as it should great video
Absolutely love the video ! Im very happy to see stuff like this being done. EWaste is a problem and stuff like this is a good solution.
If you are wondering about the memory upgrade and why someone would want this , it does allow play at higher resolution for gaming. Most importantly tho , it allows multiple graphic intensive processes to run at once. This benefits Virtual machines , 3d modeling , game developers , and video editors. Even with multiple monitors this will make a difference.
I would be happy to go over testing methods with you if needed.
Thank you 😊. My setup is more suited for repair. I am planning to build a test bench for benchmarks and comparisons. Maybe soon as I am able to stretch my pockets. 😁
Someday, I will be able to afford a PC again. Breaking ones neck and all really does hamper life. Nevertheless, I wanted to say thank you. It's wonderful to see all the work and efforts. To learn from you. I really appreciate you.
Thank you 😁
Hey man sorry that happened to you
Wishing you a good recovery
There’s always light at the end of the tunnel
Cheers
@Tekilafiend33 Thanks, mydude... this neck brace sucks... and my arm is stuck to my chest, but... I can game still, kinda. It's likely why I'm having a hard time. But I can still walk and everything. So, I really can't cry about it. Broken clavicle is healing well, too. So... and... insurance coverage is finally going to pay out my GPU, only I won't be able to M&K. I tried with my mouse close, but I just couldn't move it. So, controller it is. The game is getting more fun as I unlock stuff, too, so
You folks are super cool, mad respect, and I appreciate you both greatly.
@@LordDudeious glad to hear than man
I least from what I can tell, you’re taking it head on and with a great attitude
Take care brother and have a great day 😀
Hey good healing to you.
This is art. Well done!!!!!
Thank you 😁
Thank you for mentioning the bottle cap at the end, great video, you earned a sub
Thanks for subscribing, I am glad you liked it.
I'm using an Infrared Cooker Plate (for cooking) and it's very good even for doing a GPU reball.
I wanted to buy a Puhui T8280 but I saw a video of a russian dude doing GPU reball with a IR cooking plate and I tried to do it myself.
It's very efficient for GPUs but not good with big PCB boards like ATX Motherboards because those need a big heating surface (the board flexes / wrap so bad when the temperature is not uniform on the whole board).
People find ways. I too started with ceramic plates and a controller..
T8280 has slow cool down and uniform heating. The cooking plate do not have these features. It will popcorn your pcb. You will also need a 600w or higher hot air station, preferably Atten ST-862D.
I remember the days using ceramic plates and I killed a lot of cores. Luckily they were mine so I have no regrets. But I learned a lot. Since then I moved to a 3 zone rework station and never looked back.
@@NaN_INF it's safe with GPU PCB boards when you know how to use it.
I've replaced a lot of Cores with it and I can say I have no problem anymore right know.
Of course I've toasted a lot of cores before mastering it but knowledge requires experience so I'm okay today.
But my goal is not the Puhui T8280 but at least an IR 6000 or higher.
Yes i agree. I still have my old modified gortak preheater with an external controller. Now a days its on the shelf retired. May be i will find some use of it again some day. I'm sure it still has its use case and the best suited when the 3 zone is too large for a job. I will make a video on it someday 😁.
First time on your channel...
What a wonderful upgrade...
I used to fix the motherboard using a hair dryer long ago not anymore 😂😂😂....
Watching you I was in a zone.. wow ... Keep uploading such wonderful videos...
Thanks and welcome 😁
It would be nice to see how it performs before and after the upgrade. Do you get better higher fps from the upgrade?
This is for the first time i've seen this done, very cool.
Thank you 😁
It's hard to say if it's worth it for gaming, ie, 12GB is close to recommended 16GB min, but I do remember a Hardware Unboxed vid where extra memory allowed the textures to full form, ie, not enough memory and they are rough blob renders. They even showed a GPU render properly when started, but after 20min it ran out of memory and the pic became worse. Basically it's the cost, like is the $300 swap ok for a 10% better appearance in games.
Thank you for sharing 😁. An upgrade like this for gaming will hardly make any difference except for those AAA games which require a bigger buffer to load textures. Unless you have specific needs for higher memory this upgrade will make little to no difference. You guys using higher memory GPUs are the best source to tell the community if it's worth it. Happy to have you onboard.
it benefit for VR gameing, because it need to render two same high resolution scene
I have not used VR. If you have used it then you are better equipped to answer this question and it will deffinitly help the community. Thank you for sharing 😁.
Amazing job. It can utilize the gpu memory for sure for local LLMs to fit into memory nicely. Loved the detailed work. Lots of respect!
Thank you very much! 😊
Yes nice upgrade for Deepfakers ,
PS. Found u again :D (tendeepfake)
This is awesome!!! You are incredibly skilled electronics engineer! Bravo!!!👏👏👏 Ofc you have sub coz im rly amazed. Just keep up with great job man.
Thank you. Welcome aboard 😁
So much skill. Very impressive.
Thank you 😁 Happy to have you onboard.
what i really think that would be really useful is to upgrade in Laptop, because Laptops are very restricted in terms of grafics, but its posible to upgrade a dedicated graficscard on laptop?
Well done. Keep up the good work and vids! 👍
Thank You 😁. Thank you for being part of this channel.
Very noice greetings from Poland!
Thank you and welcome onboard 😁
Very nice. I have two if these cards. I wish i was as skilled as you to attempt this! Neat work to show. Thanks
Thank you very much! 😊
Wow i am totally stunned,you are a Genius man this is awesome...........
Thank you 😁. It means a lot to me.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql You deserve this and subcribed.........
Wow the driver is just fine with a 22GB 2080Ti? I always heard these memory upgrades (like the 3070 16GB upgrade) resulted in a slightly confused/angry driver.
A 22GB 2080Ti is probably a great choice for Stable Diffusion etc. I know 3090 24GB cards are highly prized by people running these applications and can be quite expensive/hard to find despite being quite old now. A 2080Ti with a 22GB upgrade might be quite appealing, I know the price of 2080 cards has fallen quite a lot and is maybe only 20-30% slower than a 3090 in these applications.
Nvidia made these cards with plans to launch with high capacity memory but never released it. Maybe because of the lack of competition.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql Very cool, definitely a worthwhile upgrade. I calculate theoretical FP16 performance to be 25% less than 3090 so maybe worth it, how much would you charge for an upgrade like this?
75 USD for the repair. Does not include memory.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql Wow! Just $75 ? In Germany you wouldn´t be able to do that work for such a price. Our government steal more than the half of our money. They call it tax. Otherwise I would offer it too - and much more 😕
Hmmm. 50% in tax is a stretch. I hope they add a lot of value in terms of services to citizens.
This has kind of blown me away to be honest. I don't know the answer to your question but I know Premiere can sometimes run out of memory so possibly for some productivity tasks but I'm a coder and graphics guy not a video producer or electronics expert so I'm guessing.
This is simply amazing. Subbed.
Thank you 😁
Now is a 2x 2080 Ti- Ti 😀
Great video bro!
Thank you 😁
don't forget nvidias bullshit TI Super
Hi Fraser.. I do have an MSI 4070 Super TI that got a little hot behind temperate glass, and it is possible that one of the phase capacitors fizzled out, and now I have a coil wine noise. Other than that, the card works great. Still under warranty.
Coil winning is also caused when you split one cable into 2. Since you are using a 4070 Ti Super I assume you are using a 16 to either 2 8 pin or 16 to 3 8 pin connector. If this is the case check if the power cables that you are using are directly coming from the PSU individually and not split from one. Let me know if this is the case.
@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql now you got me thinking, maybe the PSU is injecting the noise. I will swap the GPU with a similar Ventus 2X card since I have two similar cards, one 12gddr and the other 16gddr .. Temps never got above 80degC although the glass was hot to the touch .. but I heard a fizzled noise. I'll try and get an RMA ticket with MSI.
AMAZING
It will be ideal if you can post.
1. How much the upgraded RAM chips cost
2. How much for your work
3. What was the intention and EXPECTATIONS from the person who commissioned the work (game, video edit, blockchain or AI)
4. Did the person actually got the performance expected? more performance?, less performance? , what metrics were they using?
The cost of upgrading this 2080Ti including the memory is $220. This user wanted this upgrade for AI. The last conversation with the user was he was able to utilise the memory to run larger data sets. Since this was my first upgrade video I did not expect much interest. Mine is a small repair channel. I will include benchmarks and other stuff in my future videos.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql outstanding!
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql
220 bucks for all the work and the memory chips? Bro that's insanely cheap. Especially if you count all the hours of work and equipment you are using.
I have swapped a single memory module once. And it was not easy.even with the right equipment. Hats off to you sir! Keep up the great job.
But I am still curious how you managed to get the schematics of the 2080Ti strix. I'm also very interested in those
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7qlI think this could be a hugely popular service especially for newer generation cards with the newer tensor cores. A 3080TI or 3090 with 40gb+ would be a game changer for AI models, and could easily be worth the cost being $1000+
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql I would love to get this done to my card, but i doubt you are in australia :'(
I'd love to see the benchmark on this
I will include it in my next upgrade video.
Great content
No wishwash , right on point.
Thank you 😁
Maybe for an other Video.
Is it possible to double the VRAM on a RTX4090 or RX7900XTX?
And why is no Chip on M11?
As of now, RTX 4090 cannot be upgraded beyond 24GB of VRAM. Micron GDDR6X is only available in 2GB modules in 21Gbps and 24Gbps. Though it is possible to install 24Gbps modules (supported) to increase the bandwidth however the capacity cannot be increased.
The returns on investment in upgrading from 21Gbps to 24Gbps modules will be negligible and benefit minimal (It is a theory based on calculations and yet to be tested though.) If in the future I get my hands on a 4090 and a user is willing, I will put this to the test and measure the difference in performance.
If in the future Nvidia launches an RTX 4090 Ti or a 5090 it will be launched with the 24Gbps modules. (Speculation)
It's the same with 7900XT or XTX. 7900 XT and XTX use GDDR6 memory and the bandwidth of each module is 20Gbps. Samsung is sampling a 24Gbps memory but it is still sampled and not mass-produced. So for 7900 XT and XTX we are using the top possible memory.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql How much does the 2GB Micron GDDR6X cost? Cheaper to buy off Aliexpress? And have you gotten the 3080 mod to work?
Yes you can buy off Aliexpress. Only buy new.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql Thanks! I have zero soldering experience. Do you think it's possible for me to do this memory swap if I watch some UA-cam videos on how to solder (including yours) and buy a dead GPU to practice on? And are the soldering tools expensive?
@@tonyd7644 Buying dead boards to practice is a good idea. You can practice all sort of things. once you are confident practice on older working hardware then switch to the new ones. remember its much harder to remove a chip on a 30 series and 40 series card than a older generation. quality of solder is different. Higher temperature are required to replac components.
Been years for me dreaming this kinda work. You've make it come true !👍👍👍👍
Thanks 👍
Very excellent.
I am curious, would this also work with K4ZAF325BM-HC16 memory? or must it be 14gbit memory chips?
It will work with K4ZAF325BM-HC16 also.
It should work but the firmware limits the maximum frequency and there's no practical way around this. Basically it'd let you overclock the memory as much as possible without any concern but stock chips can all typically handle a decent speed bump already so you really wouldn't get enough out of it to be worthwhile.
@@JJFX- more than just firmware (it can be modified) but also the core's imc must also be able to run at higher speeds to remain stable. At least as far as i know, unless you are able to change gearing or straps to allow different dividers / timing.
hell yeah dude these are the people we need who can keep old tech in service just because it doesn't have enough memory doesn't mean it can't keep up with modern games.
😁
for some reason, I find your videos relaxing. Maybe because of the background music. I sub right away. Now I know that GPU memory can be upgraded. I always thought that its a done deal and cannot be upgraded. More subs to your channel!
Thank you 😁. Welcome onboard.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql I agree with laag, your choice of music was perfect, I found the video so relaxing to watch!
Can anyone explain me why did he left M11 slot? He could fill it
Sure I can explain. M11 is disabled from the GPU core. The data lines from that chip are open so installing the memory module will not work on M11. 😁
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql thx a lot bro 😊
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql That's the slot for the Titan card with 12GB
was just looking for videos of this a few months ago :D love seeing these types of upgrades. Think you could do this on a laptop?
As of now I am not doing any repairs or upgrades on laptops. Maybe in the future I may.
30:00 There are cases where it is very useful for gaming, for example in Cyberpunk 2077 with mods, ray tracing and framegen (lossless scaling). The memory upgrade is beneficial wherever even a little more than the standard 11 GB would be needed, even if the full 22 GB would not be used.
Is Furmark the right test in this case since it only uses 627MB of VRAM? Too bad RTX 4000 cards can't be upgraded.
Thank you for sharing. Yes there are games which will utilise more than 11Gb and this upgrade will be useful. Furmark is not useful to check memory utilisation. I tested for stability. In fact I did not expect a huge interest from a small channel like mine. Normal test I do for repairs, I ran for this upgrade as well. But I will include the right tests like OCCT and others in my future videos. Thank you once again 😁
Well done for pointing out that this is pointless for gaming. I was going to comment that if you didn't say it but you covered it beautifully.
Yes for gaming it does not make sense. There is no performance increase. Only games that exceed the 11GB buffer can benefit. In my opinion a handful of games. Unless you have a requirement for AI of something. 😁
but if the game requires more than 11gb of vram this will help him avoiding crashes because of vram limit
RTX 3070 is one of the cards that I highly recommend to upgrade for the channel author running these videos
It is still quite an able card, but it does tend to cap out in terms of power limits and GPU memory, because it is simply 8 GBs
I have a 2080 Ti. I would never have imagined that it was possible to upgrade the memory... to double the VRAM. Wow.
This is fantastic!
Thank you 😁
Its not that easy ,bro just know what he is doing, dedicated and discipline 😊
Do you have a shop/workshop and can you do something like this on e.g. a 3060ti from 8 to 16 or 24 GB and what about the price of such a procedure?
I do all repairs and upgrades at home. I have the entire setup at home.
I have been tempted to do the same. But BM-HC14 and BM-HC16 are expensive chips, being 2GB. Maybe if I come across some extra chips I wouldn't mind using on my 2080Ti I will. But I never get the chance. Fun video man! Good music btw!
Thank you brother. 😁
I am planning a similar upgrade on a 3060ti. What do you think? I have HC-16 memory which I would want to try. I'm wondering how this upgrade would stack this GPU against a 4060 ti
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql Why not go with D8BGX GDDR6X (the 21Gb version)? As you know, there are 3060Ti's in the wild with GDDR6X, like the one I have here waiting to be picked up.
However, given that 448.0 GB/s on the GDDR6 HC-14 (14 Gbps) vs 608.3 GB/s on GDDR6X (19 Gbps) version makes almost 0 difference in terms of performance, I highly doubt going from HC-14 to HC-16 would make sense.
But going to GDDR6X with higher speeds might make a difference. The only way to find out is to actually try it :) Though I do not know if even with the GDDR6X BIOS, the card will run at the higher speeds and actually run the card at 21Gbps on D8BGX GDDR6X 😕
The GDDR6X 3060Ti trace connection on the PCB are different. GDDR6X will not work work on GRRD6 PCB. pin out layout is different. Data pins layout is not the same.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql Ah I did not know that! Since I use the same stencil for re-balling GDDR6 and GDDR6X. But the ball pinout having a different data layout is a deal breaker! But regarding your original idea, I think it would be a waste of VRAM, since GDDR6X has already been proven to make no performance difference against the Samsung HC14 chips, let alone HC16 which is still slower than GDDR6X D8BGW at 19Gbps. And HC16 is so expensive for me, I'm careful with it LOL
we need gaming benchmarks, before and after memory upgrade!
Very good video ! Continue with the hard work . Im happy to see the channel is growing . I've never seen the inside work of upgrading cards . Thanks for teaching some of us .
Thank you very much! 😁
I have a genuine question.... can laptop gpus also under go some process to upgrade their memory ? Like go from 8 gb to anything like 16 ???
I have not tried upgrades on a laptop yet. Maybe in the future I will try it if I get the opportunity.
"Maybe I can do this"
[clicks video]
"Oh...they are evil BGA. Forget it."
Believe you can and you will 😁
What temp and airflow do you use for the heatgun when removing and adding memory chips like these?
I use Atten ST-862 D temps at 420C and airflow at 60%
The cards that need this are the 3070 and 3080 lmao, Nvidia is criminal with their planned obsolecense
3070 video will be coming soon. Also working on 3080 Ti but that's a mile away.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql Hello, would you provide this service internationally? If a card was sent to you could you upgrade it and send it back and how much would you charge for double the ram on a 3070? Thanks, great video, so interesting to watch such a skilled job. Best of luck from Ireland !
Okay this is ACTUALLY crazy.
😁
Dude, you made coursework of that swap, outstanding!!!
Thank you
Hi bro. Upgrade 22 gb. Performance going more better ?
Well the capacity has increased but not the bandwidth or the bus width. Games with high VRAM usages will benefit from it to load textures but how this will impact frames is yet untested.
I would to have this done to a 3080, to go from 10GB to 20GB of VRAM. That would make a real 4K high settings gaming GPU out of one that never had enough VRAM from new. I have nothing close to the knowledge or skill to pull this off.
I hope you like this video 😁. Yes, you will require skills to replace memory. but skill is built over time with practice. If you start to practice (starting with dead boards) you will build the required skill over time.
yes that will help ray overdrive
I believe the 3070 had issues having only 8 GB which is the same power as a 2080 TI but maybe 11 is fine considering consoles that had 10 was the target for most developers 2 years ago but we have had some games pop out that used up all that 11 maybe like one or two so who knows maybe he just wants the future proof it but I'm leaning towards to what you said that it's kind of Overkill considering the raw performance of the card will be outkast sooner than needing the extra memory
This upgrade was done considering AI. It works well with AI. Gaming 11GB is fine for what the core can do.
New subscriber nicely done wouldn't mind sending my GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4060 TI AORUS ELITE upgrade from that prethtic 8gb to 16 or evin 18gb
Unfortunately none of the 40 series can be upgraded. They all use 2GB memory modules.
hi could you repair my rtx 3090 I'm from ireland
Sure I can fix your GPU. You can book your repair by filling in the repair form below and follow the instructions. You will receive a case ID after you fill in the form.
graphicscardrepairs.com/repair-request/
I have received your booking.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql i just booked the repair if you ever have time to make a video on what i have to do , or about the process, or if you have a video please post the link here
You will receive instructions by email. You will have to ship your GPU to the address mentioned in the email. I have not actioned the booking yet but it will be actioned in the morning. Just wait for the email. I will follow-up with your once your case is actioned
I had a question, Where do you buy the vram and other Gpu components people use for repairing GPUs. Always see people repair or modify them but never where to buy basic components. Thanks!
Depends on where you live. most of the parts can be ordered from Aliexpress. You can also use Mouser Electronics or Digikey.
getting a 3090 is still probably better, 2080ti with the chips would cost 450€ and if u get a 3090 for 600€ u have a newer card, pcie 4.0, gddr6x, 2gb more, 32bit bigger bus, better performance overall
Thank you for sharing. happy to have you onboard 😁
maybe not
Thank you for sharing your view though 😁
3090 went up in price last time I checked. 2080ti and 3080 have gone down. The 2080ti has much lower power draw, undervolts to 150w easily and still fast in stable diffusion. Priced could change a lot once next gen drops. I would do 2080ti if you were to run it for long sessions or go with 4000 series. 3090 is a good option too if you aren't too concerned about power usage. The repair guy games its possible on the 3080 as well.
@@oneanother1 why is there no video of an 3080 20gb?
I'd happily pay a good amount to put 48gb on a 4090
the 4090 has a good amount of memory already lol
@@RichRich-jl5oh not enough though, i still run out of memory in some games and with anything ai related
I was so relaxed watching this. For some reason though I started getting stressed out when I noticed M7 wasn't purdy like the others.
Sigh of relief when he redid it before placing the memory. 😅
Amazing work. Any plans to play with AMD or Intel?
Unfortunately AMD already uses the 2GB memory modules. It's the largest capacity modules produced so far on GDDR6 and GDDR6X platform.
i wanna see it used in games
I'm gonna send you my 4090 to upgrade it to 48GB. Sound good?
Unfortunately none of the 40 series can be upgraded. It already uses 2GB memory modules which is the highest capacity produced on GDDR6X platform. It also has only 12 memory slots.
I'd be curious to see before and after benchmarks. The cache and memory bus on that card is designed for 11gb. Doubling the memory capacity has to cause a bottleneck somewhere right?
I did not expect such great interest in this upgrade, specifically from a small channel like mine. My setup is not equipped for benchmarks and stuff. It's more suited for repairs work. But I my upcoming upgrade videos I will include some sort of benchmark for reference. Now the memory bus is absolutely fine. 352bit bus is capable enough with 616Gbps of memory bandwidth. But I would still not recommend this upgrade for gaming. There is no difference in performance except in those games which require to load textures and need more than the 11Gb memory buffer. Apart from that there are no other benefits in gaming. AI is another ball game. This user got this upgrade down for AI.
Please dont put annoying clapping music
This is great, Makes me want to research into this for a 3080 10GB
Why is M11 memory slot unpopulated? why unusually 11gb to 22gb upgrade? wouldn't it be like 12gb to 24gb upgrade in general? what was the initial problem to start with?
RTX 2080 Ti does not use the full die. The full die is used by the RTX Titan. So it has only 11 memory slots active. The upgrade path is always double so a 2080 Ti can only be upgraded to 22GB. The 12th slot is disabled from the core. Installing memory in the empty slot will not work. 😁
Can you make some game benchmark comparisons with the new 22GB ram. Or what is the biggest advantage of upgrading the RAM to 22GB?
I will make a video soon. For gaming the only benefit is in AAA games that utilize more than 11GB VRAM. The frame rates are smoother. Better 1% lows, you can use full texture settings. Apart from this there are no other benefits. If you want to use AI stuff I am told it is a better option to run larger scripts or sequences. I have not tested anything myself as these cards I upgraded were for a customer. Both cards. This information I can provide based on what he had to say. I did not expect an overwhelming response. In my next upgrade I will do the tests and release a video.
This is more like it! Ah so cool, wish I still had my 2080ti. I think I need to use more flux with my repairs. Nice work! This would be excellent for some local LLM/Sable diffusion stuff and of course some gaming :) Thank you!
Your bang on point 😁
Would be nice to have a fully populated board, all the extra memory, and power stability bits.
I know most are redundant, in the case some trace is bad in the fab, they can just use one of the extras.
_They do the same when it comes to binning CPU and GPU cores; use the bits that work._
But it would be nice to have all the parts functioning.
Hey question, what is a good way to start soldering and tinkering with computer parts?
best is to buy dead boards or practice circuit boards from amazon or Aliexpress. This will help you with your soldering skills.
Great man , thanks ,keep it up, I will do so when I get independence from money needs and time crises, thanks again
Are you using Nvidia MODS (MATS) memory diagnostics program for ram testing?
Just wow, your skill is amazing. I am stuned and in awe. The YT algorythm made a great recommendation too. I rarely do subscribe but you need to be seen and heard of. Now the toughts. Yes games are not gona even touch all the memory but Mining, ohh boy with all that fast memory etherium based algorythms gona love it. AI, rendering, folding, modeling, moding is going to be great. After all just the that flex on unlocking the full potential of a GPU is worth seeing.
I truly appreciate your support! It means a lot to me. Welcome onboard. Excited to share more content like this.
In my opinion it also works well in games, also because there is not yet a gaming product that uses even just 8 GB, it is not a question of memory but of other implementations, such as the articulation, which for that type of card Turing, while the 3080 is Ampere. I in the Asus rog laptop that for the home can be updated to a maximum of 32 GB, I bring 64 GB, the software launched as cpuid z show 64 GB, but when I launch the bios, it tells me that they are 32, the maximum it can accept.