Game Changer Audio Plasma Pedal
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- Опубліковано 8 жов 2018
- Ryan messes around with his brand new Plasma Pedal by Game Changer Audio
Game Changer Audio Plasma Pedal - www.gamechangeraudio.com/plasma/
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That's a fuzz tone, son.
Sassy Cat that’s what I’m sayin!
With a high tech spin to it. Sounds like if you can plan guitar with a plug outlet this is the sound you get
It’s more crackly than a fuzz
You don’t have the best ear if you can’t tell the difference. This petal has a more crispy crackling effect to it than just what fuzz petals do
Sounds like a short circuting Super Fuzz with failing components--minus the octave up.
Jack White would love this
Correction: jack white loves this
He's said that he and third man are going to put out that pedal he uses on the Why Walk A Dog? solo
That was my first thought as soon as I heard this pedal.
Jack Black would love this
Dan auerbach would love it too
That dimed low control. That's the sound of the next Electric Wizard record!
The best thing about this pedal is how upset it makes these Dad rockers. Don't worry, boys. I'm sure there will be 10 more Tubescreamer and Klon clones coming out at the next NAMM for you to enjoy!
Oh Iommi will be very concerned ahahaha, go let this play for you, I bet that's all you can do :D
@@BlueTitan7 I'm sure it's a sick burn in your native language, but I have no idea what you're trying to say.
@@honeybucket maybe you should start from A-apple, B-boy, etc...good luck!
BlueTitan7
You okay mate, you need help?
@@WTFutureFTW you can't help me, but I can help you....
Sounds like someone tearing a sheet of paper in half.
Sounds like an old amp with dust in the pots
This Pedal sounds like a spoon in a microwave. Completely awesome! This sound isn’t for everyone but almost perfect for some psychedelic stoner metal like Boris!
Boris is a psychedelic stoner metal band...ok
So I’m an amateur electric audio circuit designer, and I have a theory as to why this doesn’t sound nearly as good as it could.
That (what I’m assuming to be Xenon filled) tube is just a high voltage diode, and it’s probably working alongside a standard silicon diode as well, likely in a common “noise gate” configuration.
It would appear that the converted high voltage audio signal is being sent directly through the diodes, with our Xenon tube putting on a show as it is filled with signal, and the entire circuit generating a harsh crossover distortion/fuzz. This functions because when the upper voltage threshold of the diodes are met, the signal hard clips, but as a result, it also acts as a shut off valve when the signal diminishes, because the diodes stop conducting and cut the output. This style of circuit is normally used with standard rectifier diodes in the later stages of higher gain tube amplifiers, to act as a proper noise gate. It’s normally placed later in the amp, so the signal is always large enough to pass (but too small to clip and distort), and when the input diminishes to close to nothing, the diodes shut off and don’t pass anything.
My recommendation for improvement on the concept would be to use the gas tube in a soft clipping feedback configuration with a high voltage OPamp, almost TubeScreamer style.
Another option would be to have a variable DC bias of the diodes, to control the threshold of the noise gate. Just my 2¢ though.
It says "Xenon Filling" on the bottom left of the pedal.
You ought to send that feedback to the manufacturers!
My suggestion would be pass a low frequency through tube to avoid the gating, if there's always a signal it won't be so harsh. However I lack the intricate knowledge surrounding voltages, low frequencies and xenon to confirm any of this.
Samuel Mumby That’s an idea that would work, if the frequency is below human hearing; but that would require a low frequency oscillator circuit, which would need more parts than a basic DC bias feed. Plus the gate would always be “off” then, without the variability. It’s not out of the reach of feasibility though, and is a really interesting concept!
Hmm...if it works like a rectifier, and rectifiers exist the later stages of high gain tube amps, then why not put it in the FX Loop of a cranked tube amplifier. Since the pre-amp signal will be much larger than any guitar signal, the noise-gate effect may roll off more naturally. Also without the pedal running thru the pre-amp the treble wouldn't sound like sandpaper grinding away my eardrums; however, I imagine the knobs would still take endless tweeking to get it working JUST right.
I like the idea of using the Xe discharge tube as clipping diodes, but what do you think the turn-on voltage is for those things? I'm guessing in the thousands of volts, given the 3.5 kV marked on the box. Even with a DC bias on the tube, modulating the turn-on with the input signal for soft clipping is gonna be near impossible. You could put the clipping diodes on the output side, but you'd still need a helluva op-amp to handle the voltages necessary--the only ones Digikey sells are >$500.
I think if you combined this with a standard boss distortion or fuzz, and we’re subtle with the mix, dialing in less plasma than d/f, and keeping the plasma behind the d/f in the chain, this could sound incredible.
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Glad to see it’s finally being adapted to Eurorack. That seems more like a natural place for an experimental effect like this: messing up drums, making strange feedback loops, adding dirty glitches to complex patches etc. it certainly doesn’t seem to please tone-obsessed blues-rock guitarists!
Oh but it pleases this tone-obsessed blues rocker! I want one to run parallel with my Fulltone Ultimate Octave.
Yeah this and the light box would sound godly with a moog.
Hey Ryan I just got mine yesterday as they have only just come out here in the UK as they are only made in small batches. Expensive as hell but I just had to have one before they sold out! Treated myself for my birthday on Sunday. Awesome piece of kit! Nice one man.
Bought one, your demo was very convincing, Great pedal for menacing filthy dark industrial music.
I’d like to hear this pedal in a stoner or a death metal song, or something djent-ish. With such a noise gate... would be nice if you could control the gate too
Edit : it might be inherent of the design.
You can control the gate with the blend function
@@Sk8rocka That's not what the blend knob does.
Definitely a fun pedal to have in the collection. The "blend" feature makes me think they had bass in mind. 90% of the drive pedals with "BASS" in the title have a blend knob. Great video!!
True dat my guy. Source: friendly neighborhood bassist
This is officially insane. And I love it.
You should really play the pedal, for what it is, instead of playing the riffs you would normally play on a tubescreamer.
Miro Pendev agreed I noticed that good point you made
Best review I’ve seen of this and the most convincing that I do need this in my life
Just got one myself. I doubled it with my blues driver and got the sound I was looking for.
That was Awesome!
Ps maybe pump a Tubescreamer through it to give it a more compressed and stronger signal and then do LIGHT clipping with the plasma? Plenty of useful applications and things to try (which I bet old mate here did try in his free time).
It sounds great, but it since its gated so hard it lacks the smoothness that i like from my distortion pedals.
~Jay
the big test channel TRUE THAT!
Exactly
Haha, that‘s exactly what I like about it. I want my dirt to be not smooth at all.
That’s why I’d use it as a velcro-y, spitty fuzz sound. If you’ve ever heard Chalk Teeth from Toska, that’s the kind of fuzz I like.
It’s not supposed to sound smooth. It’s supposed to sound like electricity
Seems more of a fuzz pedal. None the less cool! Thank you for posting!
To be frank, I'm surprised nobody thought of this sooner. I mean, everybody loves those static arc speakers that they play at live events!
Also, you're right. That sounds fuzzy as FUCK!
I have a Les Paul 59 RI Collectors Choice Edition and this pedals stays ON. It works real good with the tone woods especially the lighter ones but if you can get your hands on a Braz board and a Korina body!!!!!!!!! Oh man it is heaven.
With a decent boost preamp/first in the loop, this could be a pretty cool party trick pedal... as for doing songs with it, I'd have to mellow it out a bit. Still, a pretty sick pedal.
Love it
i love everything about this, especially that after effect, well except the price tag
Best review of this pedal imo. 👍
I like it as a once in a while effect or novelty but I can see how it would be an acquired taste.
is the popcorn ready.
The sound of the plasma pedal reminds a bit of an octave fuzz thats not coping with chords being played through it. And this very much is a fuzz, not sure why they called it a distortion.
Brownie_the_3rd I suppose because fuzz is a form of distortion maybe? Other than that, I'm not sure.
That thing is sick
The fuzz sounds are cool
Wonder what a compressor before or after would do to it.
All electronic devices should have that tube.
So it turns out that this thing is amazing for bass guitar in heavy rock choruses with a lot of overdriven guitars, used almost as you would use a SANS-AMP drive on a bass amp, but cooler.
Thank god it has a blend knob, it might “almost” be unusable then.
Can we see another demonstration of this in 60fps?
I can imagine lots of contexts this pedal would sound great. But obviously it's not gonna replace more standard distortion pedals.
A few settings might be usable. Might be better if the gate wasn't so hard.
I don't suppose you have a Korg Minilogue you could demo this pedal with? I'd be curious to see how it fares with a synth.
I have one and my pedal gets here in 2 weeks. Stand by :)
Would have liked to have seen the voltage knob adjusted more as you went through the other knobs.
When blending in the clean tone, does the gate cut the entire signal or does it leave some of the clean?
the clean signal is not affected by the gate.
i think if you had this in stereo paired with a really nice crunch it would sound pretty badass..... i would buy it if it didn't have the gate...
a wooly mammoth with light decoration
My Triangle Big Muff started turning itself on, and off again. It was scared of the bad fuzz.
You got some reflections going on making it hard to tell where the knobs marker is.
Hmm... So this would be fun after a delay and/or reverb to "cut off" both of those things or gate them in fun ways. I want to hear this through a phaser, I think that'll be neat. Since the plasma in the tube is, well, plasma in a tube, this will probably respond to magnets and other devices that have some sort of EM (think all the usual electric motor-powered stuff). I want to play, i think there are all sorts of ways to use this.
...The correct song for this pedal is "Iron Man".
This sounds like something Trent Reznor or King gizzard would use.
badass !
I need about 1kg of weed to start appreciating this pedal, believe me I tried, I thought it was pretty cool the plasma thing and was hoping the pedal was decent, but looks like it is more looks than sound, it's just crushing bits for the fun of it. Awesome review man, thank you so much, really made my decision.
It's a cool pedal for sure. It would be pretty useless without the blend knob, IMHO.
The distortion sounded kinda the same to me, no matter the settings. The crunch is all out, all the time, like a rough fuzz with a Lo and Hi EQ section. That said, I think it would sound killer on bass.
I honestly would never use the blend knob. Set the eq right and this thing is a fucking ripper of a solo tone.
And say that with experience. This thing straight into a vintage amp is THE tone for me. I'll definitely be buying one as soon as I can.
I CANT BELIEVE SOME PEOPLE - you have one of the greatest inventions for guitar in years, and simple minds try to compare plasma to a distortion pedal....ok, the gain is not a volume knob carl "dan TPS" ...... Have You Gone Mad???? its elementary dear watson.... maybe i should write it on a note and pin it to yer shirt???? who raised this kid? yer gonna poke yer eye out with that !!!!! dont run with scissors lil johnny - petting zoo .25 cents.... ya feel me????? JR....PLASMA IS A FORCE YOU CANT HANDLE, RUN WHILE YOU CAN!!!!
liaz strumbetter Right. Love mine. I kill the treble, and the thing is a beast.
What
Kinda neat I guess. I can't get past the noise gate, it's killing the signal. Definitely a good fuzz sound
shhhhh...you'll wake the baby!
Take something this badass up to the most expensive old muff and fuzz face idk
Just think this’ll hopefully get popular
I get the feeling the plasma is mostly for show and doesn't really contribute to the signal too much. Back when singing arcs/plasma speakers were a bit of a trend on UA-cam, there were a ton of videos that had a more subdued version of this sound. They recreated the audio perfectly but had a soft crackling underneath them. This pedal sounds like what would happen if you put the audio from those videos through a cheap distortion pedal so that the crackling was much louder.
Honestly, you gotta play this thing yourself to get the hype. I put this in front of my 1968 Alamo Fury, and it straight up rips. This guy didn't set up the EQ the way I like it, and I'm pretty bummed about that. It's a superb pedal for the fuzz obsessed.
I want to hear a Roland TB-303 through the Plasma.
Send me one of each and I will make a video just for you. ;)
3 guitarists come to my mind with this pedal, Adam Jones, Tom Morello, and Jack White.
Not in the budget but truly epic.
i already got a Fuzz Factory and that has even more tones (that sounds like a broken pedal) to choose from.
This is such a silly idea. I love it completely.
This could work really well to create a downward spiral tone.
I want this
This pedal will only ever sound good in a mix, but a little bit of reverb would definitely help.
At 9:04, you got the same tone as The Stooges' "Loose"! (Btw, I'm jealous, haven't received mine yet!)
Price?
I have got to order one 🤘 so nasty!
Honestly, to me, it sounds like they took 3 pedals, and combined them in 1 pedal. A fuzz pedal, an overdrive pedal, and a distortion pedal.🤔 But that lighting bolt ⚡, in the middle of the pedal is pretty sick!!! 🤘🤘🤘 Definitely cool sounds!!!
Laser sword of pedals
I really like the abrasive tone of this pedal, but that noise gate is just atrocious, is there a way to bypass it?
Its a nice pedal, but im afraid the bulb there isnt a gimick, which is sort of its downside. I feel like the voltage shooting across is the actual signal amplified. Would have been much better if they had a parallell wire running controlling the actual signal and having the bulb be a visual element only. Signal seems to be cutting out and sounds a little broken.
Its alive! ITS ALIIIIVE!!
The gating sounds a bit ridiculous, but that distortion is nasty.
I like it. :3
That thing is awesome. It’s nasty. It will inspire some real cool riffs.
Visual bonito, inovador, timbre tosco.
6:30 through to 6:44 is the only part in this video that matters, that fucking low end
no creía en el amor a primera escucha, hasta que vi y escuche este pedal
It's just odd, but fun
Kylo Ren and Jack White will love it!
Adam Jones is using this pedal on the tool album
that latest TOOL-update video is what got me looking to hear this pedal. I think its a rad pedal for the right moment. Similar to how Jack Whites stuff sometimes goes raw and blows out. Moderation is the key.
I bet kenny from ton would love this lol
The China/Trash cymbal of guitar pedals ... ?
Kieren Moore , that's an accurate comparison.
Sounds like a Big Muff and a Woolly Mammoth had a baby. And I'm completely happy with it.
@Zen I also own both. Agree to disagree?
@Zen man, those two fuzzes kill if you're after low end. Which is why a lot of bassists love the Muff, and the Mammoth is a bass fuzz by design.
The Mammoth does have more low end, it's the design of the pedal. Holds up to a couple hertz if I'm right. be
For me, the Plasma has the gain structure of those two pedals, but I would agree, doesn't hold on to the low end in the same way as the former two pedals. I happen to love fizzy, obnoxious fuzzes, which I'll be the first to admit, isn't an often shared taste. But to each their own, it's all subjective anyways.
Do a demo on bass !! well if you have one!
Adefesio94 I have a bass but my bass amp is crappy, and I suck at bass, lol
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
try it with a lot of reverb maybe?
That would make it so much worse I feel like. Adding about of reverb to a high gain sound never works well
Harrison Berry Lol i was thinking the same thing. You cant polish a turd.
Source: I have one of these.
fuzz + noise gate
If you like the sound of an ark breaking connection, you'll love this pedal..You usually try to avoid that in a design.
But whatever.
I had high hopes for this pedal. I thought it would sound more like the Revv pedal. I guess it would be good for certain genres. Just not for me. That's why I'm giving this vid a like. These type of vids save me money.
My god that sounded like shit. However I heard a synth through this pedal and it sounded awesome.
It sounds like an 8 bits distortion sound.
In a studio fucking around with this pedal. A difficult beast to tame.
Result: Too much Jack White to handle.
Castlehill650 it’s a very specific sound, I’d be interested in hearing it in a fully produced song
60 Cycle Hum It is very specific and not “1000x worse than a metal zone” as someone else said (although it is fun to joke). We were experimenting with lead tones for a specific solo, and initially we were thinking of a “Jack White” esque tone, however we ended up with something more traditional. It definitely may have worked out in our favor regardless.
Omg it sucks how is it possible so many people like it
Maybe through the right cab with the right amp and EQ, such a cool concept but sounds like a bad wolfmother demo.
Shame you started it with terrible EQ settings, half way through you see that with some bottom end this thing may be useful. The idea of the distortion characteristic still shining through as the fuzz kind of drenches the entire thing could be fun for a stoner metal band who wanna throw in the occasional rich harmonic chords and have some kind of chord definition.
Bees! Super fuzzy!
sorry. sounds like a 30$ pedal. cool plasma tho.
imslicc which $30 pedal does it sound like? I’ll get it and do a comparison
The Behringer SF300 Super Fuzz Distortion might do the trick... and it’s just 24.99! 😉
sunlounger29 that’s kind of cheating considering it’s a clone of the boss fz-2, I’ve owned a sf300 before and I can tell you it won’t sound the same, still I just ordered one.
Lol... it’s the only cheap and similar pedal I could think of to make you do a comparison video!
@@60CycleHumcast reminds me of the old DOD Grunge pedals
Sounds like my distortion pedal with a bad guitar cable.
Good review. Better than any of the NAMM demos.
The sound of this pedal will be on the new album from Tool.
In 18 years?
Ah!
Podrías probarlo mezclando Plasma, flanger y Plasma con Phaser?
Y Plasma con Wah-wah cómo sonaría?
Se podría probar? 😃
Y plasma con heavy metal, qué pasaría? 😄😄😄
Muchas gracias!!! 😃😃😃