"Just your friendly reminder that i̷̭̒n̵̮̆ş̵̏a̴̭͒ń̵̤e̵̮͆ ̵̙͒o̸̪̎p̴͔͋ī̴͙n̷̨̈́ì̴̫o̴̺̚n̵̮͑s̵̟̐" Also this vid is old, i kinda take back the bit about vigor (yes i upped to 60 something later). Game def could use some scaling system though so I'm also not one shotting bosses. also go watch the newer stuff it's way better. Also New Discord! ► discord.gg/hMDk7ZN4mn Be in a video! ► www.patreon.com/ManleyReviews
@@James-9999 was it really? I never picked up a copy however I am curious as to some issues. I have a ps4pro myself. What was bad about it? If you are comparing it to cyberpunk, i am definitely curious.
Gets even wilder, when you see him critize the amount of damage the player takes as too big while also having a soreseal equiped. I mean... ofc you get two shot, when you reduce your damage resistance by 25%, are not wearing high resistance armor (like another ~10% damage resistance missing) and also do not equip any of the damage resistance talisnams which makes you miss out on up to 20% damage resistance. That does not mention any of the damage resis buffs from the physick or ashes of war or incantations. Add to all of that people not understanding the relation of percentages and absolute numbers and you get gems like ~10% resistance total with 1500hp with ~60-80% resistance possible for a health pool of 2400 points. Bonus points for you when you know what "effective Hit points" are... It is totally possible to not sacrifice any damage and to tank 3-4 hits in late game eras.
You do realise that more often than not Twitter thinks something AND his opposite. Like there will always be people on twitter to say the two extremes of everything.
The problem with Twitter is there's not just ONE type of crazy... There's lots of different FACTIONS of crazy; all crammed into the same space. On the same tweet you can find responses that are on completely opposite ends of the spectrum from each other, yet still manage to be equally stupid.
The funniest part for me was when a bunch of imagery in Elden Ring that was ripped straight from Berserk led people on Twitter to learn what Berserk was and freaking out.
Im new to soul type games too...well kinda but ill say the hard part for me was rolling. Either too fast, too slow or too many till i run out of stamina and get my ass kicked
On the bright side the weapon damage scaling system is the same across all of these games, so you won't have to re-learn it if you play the older ones. It's relatively simple once you understand it, the games just make absolutely no effort to explain it.
In an industry where everybody just wants to make a bunch of money and call it a day, you have to apreciate Fromsoftware, the game is not perfect but since the moment it begins you start feeling the huge love and care they put into this game. 10/10 for me.
what about the later areas? They where clearly rushed just like in ds3. Its bandai who only cares about money and they definitely limit fromsofts artistic integrity for the sake of release.
@@dylanschmeichel2008 what lol maliketh’s boss room, actually the whole of farum azula was though even down to getting the secret boss below the place, oh unless you didn’t make it that far and just ranting on something you haven’t been to
4:20 "Saying Elden is too much like Dark Souls 3, is like a weird way of saying 'Thank You" That delivery, the logic behind the joke, everything about it, made me laugh harder than anything I've heard on UA-cam in years. Bravo my man.
dark souls 3 was awful. i feel sorry for you both for not getting to experience real souls games peak numbers and the height of the series are two very different things
@@heroofhyrule9778 I think I'm struggling to understand what your saying exactly. But I do apologize for having to inform you, your assumptions are way off base. I've played every single Souls-based game, including Demon Souls, Sekiro and Bloodborne. Dark Souls 1/Remastered is still my favorite of all time, and I've played it to death so much that I've even made several of the new class mods for both DS1 and DS3 on the Nexus mod site.
Elden Ring broke me in how to approach a quest now. Like now even if a game has a journal, I would just not read it and run around the world hoping I'll meet the right NPC in the right place
Using the Triangle/Y + Dpad is actually instant, you’re just waiting to see the visual cue of the menu hence it feels slow. Just press the combo and the horse works instantly just like you want it to bud. The I-frames of mounting/dismounting Torrent are meant to be used in combat.
still doesn't feel quite right having to use the dpad in conjunction with the triangle when there are more streamlined options present. Not really a complaint on the game, just couldn't have been even better imo.
I feel like clicking both buttons at the same time is(or would be) equally as tedious if not worse than quickly holding y and then using the D pad due to the way you'd have to position your hand so that the sticks click instead of slide. All options have a downside?
The term "UX" pretty much always relates to how a user interacts with a program, or rather the user interface (UI), like how you interact with a graphical user interface and how efficiently you can do tasks through it. So in case of video games it only applies to things like control schemes, menu navigation and so on, and not to the gameplay itself. It really is a term that's more often used in case of software like browsers, file managers, editors etc than with video games.
I’d say that’s because UX is quite neglected in video games, whereas the implementation is very much important everywhere else. I do want to see studios focus on UX. Hell even I slept on FS games for ages because I just didn’t understand the menu and navigation. But FS is far from the worst culprit. It’s also worth noting that Japanese user navigation is so much more different than Western types. They favour a more holistic approach.
I think game UX is part of the gameplay like as like you say it relates to how it interacts with the game. Take the quest mark debate as an example. Wouldn’t you think that the choice for not having a giant ‘!’ UI icon above npcs is an intentional choice to make a unique User(gamer) Experience?
Vigor really isn't optional here like it was in Souls. The endgame difficultly spike did force me to experience more of the game my first time through, and raising vigor near the softcap of 60 gets you that margin for error back. I don't see it as a problem, the enimies hit hard and you are required to find a way to deal with that fact.
Yeah people don't realize it yet but scaling isn't anywhere near as important as it used to be for most weapons. Vit-gouge builds are standard now, you get most of your dmg from upgrades.
*laughs in endurance and Bloodhound Step* . . . in all seriousness, as someone who DEFINITELY lacks the skill required to both make and use the many builds of Elden Ring, I find myself relying on a variety of tools and just my own amount of skill to get through bosses... and patience. plenty of it. I buff my weapons, I use items, I cast a few spells...basically, experiment with stuff. I'm tackling the endgame bosses with all the trial and error I can handle, and it's genuinely fun to see if I can just work with what I've got or if I have to find a new gameplan.
lol Im happy the first thing I did in elden ring is run thru the whole game at like lvl 20 for low level pvp so im already extremely used to every damn enemy one shotting me
The thing I love most about FromSoft games is that they show immense respect for their players. They don't dumb things down. They make progressing the game a process of exploration and discovery without much, if any, hand holding. They willingly risk hiding MASSIVE chunks of some of the best parts of the game in ways that some players could easily miss or never experience, which makes finding/figuring out how to access that stuff feel like a huge treat to those who like to explore every nook and cranny. They don't hold back with challenge, and even though they add a ton of ways to make the game easier or harder, they put that power in your hands and make it a much more organic experience rather than just clicking on a setting in a menu somewhere. As a huge souls fan, I still find the refined gameplay and challenge in Sekiro to be the most rewarding but for a souls game, Eldenring really is a 10 out of 10, even with it's flaws.
Sekiro deserves a 10/10 more than Elden Ring imo. Call me a heretic, but ER really starts to drag in the latter parts of the game, and some of the combat changes are questionable. Sekiro is as close to perfect as you can get however. That game needs a sequel.
@@jooot_6850 Nah, Sekiro drags it too, half of the bosses are reused and becomes boring. It doesn't have much replay ability, you will be playing the same way in every play through.
@@yourewallsareveryconvenien8292 minibosses are reused, yes, but ER reused them too, so that’s kind of a moot point. The main bosses that get reused are pretty different from each other. For example, Shura Isshin and Sword Saint Isshin feel completely different. I think that ER really starts to slow down once you get to Morgott: your build is pretty much completed and any more levels won’t net you too much, so there’s no reason to explore more of the map. And the next few areas are pretty boring. Mountaintop of the Giants is very pretty but there’s not much there besides a hero’s grave and of course the Fire Giant. Crumbling Farum Azula is a much better map with more to see but the 5 endgame boss quadruple whammy is wayy too concentrated. It’s just boss after boss with nothing to do in between. Would’ve been much better if they were spread a bit more evenly, but I’d have no idea how FromSoft would do that given the same routing as the normal game. It’s true that Sekiro is less replayable, but I think that first play through is just so much more polished it makes up for it. To be completely fair I’ve only done one play through of ER, maybe now that I can beeline to the bosses and minibosses that actually matter I’ll have more fun with it.
"Read thousands of Twitter comments and reddit posts..." Proof not all heroes wear masks. How you got out of all of that without brain damage, I'll never know. Elden Ring is my first Souls game and yeah Margit stomped my face in, but I did appreciable damage to him my first time and it encouraged me to learn. Honestly I have not had this level of wonder and immersion in a game since Ocarina of Time came out and broke my kid brain.
To be fair, Margit stomps EVERYONE. I've beaten every souls game before, and the experience I previously had didn't help me nearly as much as I thought it would. Why? Because Margit read me. Every time I distanced myself, I knew he was waiting for me to heal so he could either throw a knife or lunge at me. When he did a fast chain of attacks, there was a high chance of him following up with slow attacks right after, just to throw me off. Often he would do some big attack, wait for me to overcommit, and then use his little dagger to take a little bit of my health. If I overcommited even harder, he would leap away and throw the dagger at me. There are very few Souls bosses like this. Usually they have set patterns to their attacks that YOU have to adapt to, they dictate the rythm of the fight and you follow. In Elden Ring I actually felt like I was fighting an opponent that knew what they were going against, making the fight much more immersive imo. Margit also teaches an important lesson to DS veterans: play this like a dark souls game and you'll be beaten to hell and back. Use the game's unique mechanics, bitch.
Honestly, one thing I've loved about soulslike games is actually JOURNALING stuff down, whether on paper or on a notes app or something.. it makes you feel like an actual adventurer or whatever lol. the problem with elden ring's quest is they're too cryptic, but i dont want them to add a hand-holding quest journal but instead just make the hints more explaining
I actually disagree and think Fromsoft have made quite large strides in quests since DS1. in DS1, quests have *MULTIPLE* points of failure that aren't obvious to the player and then there's one in particular that LITERALLY makes firelink shrine useless for half the bloody game. In addition, quest progression wasn't as cut and clear as it in elden ring and I honestly found DS1's quests to be a massive hassel, espically with things like how Siegeward's quest plays out, which made them a very frustrating mess to follow and also a mess if you wanted to avoid certain outcomes (see firelink above...God damn it Lautrec). In Elden ring, quests are more sidelined, but to me more thought out with more clear instructions and ideas that are communicated a bit better to the player then other titles. Even DS3 is a little guilty of hard to follow questlines, prime examples being irnia's and The Lord of Hollows questline, including Anri's. I also think Elden ring did a good job of removing a lot of the less obvious points of failure that lead to extreme frustration in older titles, overall I think from made huge leaps with questlines in Elden ring. There's still improvements to be made (like Millicent I think is a poorly designed quest because her locations are very easy to miss) but a lot of them felt natural to me.
I like to think the reason why they re-used Dark Souls 3 assets was so they could get some things done quickly and then focus on the more important parts, like the open world for example.
I personally didn't mind the reskinned/reused bosses in terms of difficulty, but it did take out some of the excitement when exploring (particularly in catacombs/dungeons)
@@sallymae3631 there's already plenty of original enemy types But by no means am i gonna tell you you're wrong, cuz i want some more enemy types too. It's always fun to see
catch a spirit in catacombs is kinda bruh. I feel better in mine have upgrade stuff. the game has few weapons. swords have many but scythes or large spears or rapiers have a few varieties maybe with some DLC this will change. I don't know if Elden ring will end like ds3 or if they will add more stuff
Personally I don't care about reused bosses but what I absolutely hate is how the game often throws multiple bosses at the same time in a room in a lazy attempt to be more challenging, and in many instances that's just annoying and hardly balanced. Player already fought a Chrystallian? Let em fight 2 at once. And then next time 3 with scarlet rot. And some areas have like 20 exploding enemies in one spot, completely ignoring that the combat system isn't from Dynasty Warriors. So basically Elden Ring's worst parts are what's wrong with Dark Souls 2. But overall it's still insanely good.
5:10 I will also say to this, from both a Gamer and a Game Developer perspective, I see this as something that is completely fine because it massively sped up the completion of Elden Ring by allowing them to forgo remaking literally every asset, it isn't done in a disruptive way that takes away from the experience, and it even allows us to see some of their Cut Content actually fleshed out and used in a game which I fucking love.
Exactly, any efficient developer is going to re-use assets. This is just them saving time and money which allows them to make more games faster and with bigger budgets, and considering every souls like they've released since 2011 has been GOTY or a GOTY contender you would think people would applaud their efficiency while still being able to make quality content. I've got like 200+ hours in DS3 and I didn't even notice any re-used assets or animations in Edlen Ring, except the Dog Sword fight, which was a positive because it's obviously a big nod to Sif from DS1. IMO I feel like the gaming industry just got very salty over Pokemon re-using assets to an absurd degree with little to no new content that every time they hear "re-used assets" they are immediately angry.
totally agree! Imagine of they tried to do Tears of the kingdom in a totally new map instead of expanding on the same world from breath of the wild. It would not be nearly as good. Reusing assets is a great way to experiment and improve gameplay IMHO
@@WrathofFenrir99 I didn't say it was deep or brilliant it's just efficient. Re-using bosses is pretty standard for open-world games. The only boss IMO that was used a bit too much was the Godskin duo, most of the other bosses that are repeated have counterparts that can be found in the open world (not behind a fog wall). I mean I don't really play ubisoft games, not because I don't like them, I just never really got around to it, so I can't say much on them, but simply re-using bosses isn't bad. There's also 112 unique bosses out of the 151 in Elden ring, so I don't think you see the same boss 5 times in the game except if you count each encounter with the individual Godkin Duo and the Duo together.
Ohhhhhshiiiiiiii I'm so hyped about the bloom fx and all the crazy lighting that's going from the modern souls games and into the AC line 😝 the game engine is not going to be all balanced on epic giant map scales but the enemy ai is going to be so hardcore I can't wait. You probably understand that structure and struggle to convert assets but every upscaling to hd and such has to seriously cut down rendering the game overall? Sorry I'm very excited so I hope I made sense.
The fact that people complain when THE ENTIRE SOULS SERIES, including DS 2(to a lessar extent because 2 has a lot of unquie movesets) 3 reuse a lot of the exact same move sets (greatswords are the most obvious example to me) and point to ELDEN RING as an "asset flip" for it is mind boggling. It's less of a reuse and more like giving the player what they'd expect. Because the same greatsword moveset is used in DS1 and 3, it creates an expectation for what the weapon class feels like. And I don't recall people saying the same thing about DS3 which did much the same with movesets.
I remember when the sorcery women said: "Find my body. it is in the ruins near the church, to the south." So they _can_ write side quests a mortal can understand without a wiki and a thesaurus? Or did they just forget to shakespear-ify that line?
Fr. I actually really strongly disagree that the game needs a quest journal, I think that would almost completely take away from what makes the Souls/Elden Ring quests special, but I completely agree that there should be more things like that where quests could be reasonably expected to be continued without having to look them up... Example for me is when White Mask Varre left the message at The First Step that said he was at the Church to the west of such-and-such ruins. Alot of quests just leave you completely open-ended with no guidance whatsoever, and unless you look them up its just up to you to happen to stumble upon whatever area/item/whatever in the correct order needed to continue the quest. Would be nice if most quests gave more clear ideas of what you would need to do if you wanted to continue that questline specifically. Or, possibly a similar system to the message system where there's an in-game system that would allow other players to share hints with you possibly. That would feel more organic than looking something up in a wiki at least
@@fozzythasalesman6125 Absolutely true. Half of the quests end with "I hope we see each other again!" and you have no idea where tf to find them again because they hide in some obscure side area you already cleared.
I played all DS games and just couldn't finish them, the whole running from the bonfire to the boss through hordes of enemies just felt far too tedious for me. Elden Ring fixed that by just slapping Marika's ti- stakes near every encounter.
If I recall correctly mounting was made difficult on purpose. The devs wanted you to dismount and engage the enemy. That is why there is a pop-up when your horse dies and you have additional step for reviving your horned mount. I think most if not all of the bosses were designed to fight you up close. I guess exception is Radhan who has ranged attacks and you have to avoid few arrows when you try getting closer to him. I am pretty sure this was discussed in one of the interviews with game creators.
I just bought Elden Ring last week. Instead of b*tching and complaining, I looked up walkthroughs and tutorials to make my character stronger. Anyone who complains about Elden Ring has no intent on learning how to actually play! This game has been one of the most fun and addicting experiences I’ve ever had. All I had to do was not give up and get help from videos. I went from sucking to defeating the first demi-god Godrik after about a day of learning from others
very true. most people don't hate the game.. they're just stuck on something. Usually through their undoing. I don't like that you have to do so much online foraging to figure it out as it just makes me OCD about missing out on things kinda spoiling a bit of the adventure... but I still wholeheartedly agree.
@@ManleyReviews well, this is my first souls game ever, so I need all the help I can get for the most part. I’d rather have this game figured out at a reasonable time than basically never
@@ManleyReviews I agree with both of you on this. While it does trigger some OCD and can derail my sense of adventure, because my nature demands I find and do everything, I feel that this isn't always a bad thing. This creates what is traditionally called A Shared Cultural Moments. Basically, when everyone gathers around a specific topic and exchange knowledge and ideas about it. Some will depend on it to get through the culture moment but then in future discussions of the topic we come with a much more complete knowledge and often times still have stories of our own to add to the adventure. The problem is that this concept of a shared cultural moments flies over some folks head. They think they have to beat the game on their own not realizing that From wants you talk to others and learn from others. They try to approximate the watercooler in the form of the player messages and ghosts. Folks who are stuck need to realize it is ok to use all the tools and to use the guidance of others as we are all culturally on this adventure and it shouldn't diminish the experience because you still have to slay that dragon yourself. It's like my mom use to say, "Just because you have the map doesn't mean it will be an easy trip."
@@Writh811 I’m honest with myself when I say that I need these guides to figure out the game. Yeah, it could derail some people’s sense of adventure and I know I’ll be judged for it, but I’m having a ton more fun knowing how to play the game by watching others. Eventually I’ll make another character and do it myself and try to figure shit out using a completely different build.
@@quadgod77 actually when i played Demons Souls, thats fromsofts first souls like game. It actually came with a guide and when i followed the guide, i had so much fun and when the dark souls games came out.. i was just a beast.
I have problems with elden ring, but it has more to do with scaling and enemy placement. The number of runes you get for defeating enemies rarely seems like it is equivalent to the difficulty of the enemy themselves. Which means that you need to grind a lot while at the same time making enemies far to difficult to actually grind on. The gameplay itself is fun, the npcs are great (even if I wish you got more casual interactions with them, come on let me have Melina as an actual traveling companion) and I enjoy the story, but I so often feel under leveled for where I am (Also for Christ sake, if I die fighting a night time exclusive boss then I shouldn't have to sit down at grace, advance time, get up, sit back down, and get back up every single time that I want to retry, just let me get right back to it)
", but I so often feel under leveled for where I am" that usually means u didnt explore much then, enemy scaling is fine in my book for most of the game barring snowmountain.
@flamingmanure for the exception of a few enemies that lore wise are supposed to be over powered, like bear runes in some areas or the rot mutated dogs next to the merchant north of caleid, yeah. Pretty balanced, you just need to change talismans and armours based on the area you're in and you'll be fine AS LONG AS YOU FUCKING LEVEL VIGOR, DO YOU PLAY OFFLINE?! HAVE YOU NOT BEEN TAUGHT THAT LESSON BY INVADERS?!!? LEVEL VIGOR OR INSTANT DEA-
God I love seeing the “dog” messages. They brighten my day. Also I have never beaten a fromsoft game and never really enjoyed the linear pathing of the dark souls games and I love open world games and I absolutely love elden ring. It’s great. Dark souls but open world is great.
most darksouls game other than ds3 are quite open actually you have the option to fight the bosses and explore at your own pace but yes elden ring is just fantastic.
@@zerotwo_.002 Really, it's more that ds1 is open, ds2 just has "which linear path do you want to go down", and bloodborne is also fairly linear. Still, agree with the rest of this.
@@namelessnightingale8991 Yeah that is fair the dlc are a bit more different but the dlc reminds me of the blizzard fuck land so lets not get there now lol.
I still never really understood how you dont have at least 1 Million subs, you got it all and yet only (already a lot ngl) have 80k subs, i really hope you get a boom in recommendation so that you can grow faster, bk u defo deserve it. keep them coming
Never seen your channel until this video but this is super well-made, love your humor and how concisely you get across the point. I'll definitely be here when you upload more stuff in the future!
This is my first souls and getting into it was brutal. It took me literal days to beat margit. The pay off in leveling up amd just getting better at the game though is so satisfying. And once you understand the enemies more and add more diversity to you're own kit the fights get really exciting. Malenia for example took me a few days of attempts, but she never made me rage or felt unfair. Experimenting on how to beat her and learning her attacks was really fun and it became my favorite fight in the game.
Dunno man Malenia is good in every aspect except the healing. I’m a tank class and that’s the way I love to play. I shouldn’t need to remake my build into a fast untouchable coward class just so I can beat her. Healing through blocks was just stupid for me to witness honestly.
@@smittywerbenjagermanjensen5963 Even the tankiest tank isnt supposed to fat roll, considering how easy it is to have minimum endurance for mid-roll which can be used to dodge all of Malenias attacks.
@@OceanicManiac Thats not the point. Why must i conform to that rolling playstyle. Why has a entire mechanic been stripped from me? Blocking lets her heal despite me not taking any damge? How does that make sense? I had the medium roll I wasnt overweight but the healing mechanic was unfun. Just my opinion.
@@smittywerbenjagermanjensen5963 It's a tradeoff, if you refuse to learn how to dodge a bosses highly damaging attack, they get hp back. You can't expect all builds to be as effective as each other in every single situation, there'd be no point in build variety then. Although it's pretty funny calling anything unfun when your idea of fun is holding L1.
6:20 I thought this too for the longest time but you can actually use the "triangle menu" even if it hasn't physically shown up yet. The only thing the game checks for is if you're holding the button down, it doesn't check if the menu is displayed yet.
Exactly, that menu Is so practical that i have remapped both flasks to It. You can summon quick items in a fraction of a second, making It easier to heal. If you cant find .1 seconds in between enemy attacks It means you're playing way too aggresively, and that makes It so you're not in control of the fight. So, both complains about the Quick menu and enemies being too bloodborne-y are invalid.
Mh, the thing with the Y menu, the "pouch" is nonsense. Its absolutely quick enough and easy to use. I even have my Healing and Mana potions on that menu and I'm able to use them in mid combat with no problem. Can't agree there... (I should mention that I'm not the best souls player...)
Yeah i got almost as quick as just using the x(square) as with the button combo.(i also prefer doing it the old way and only used 2 slots in the pouch and the rest all were in the normal one click away type )
@Shen I see how people get confused though. There is a delay visually on the menu changing, and i guess lots of people think you need for that to happen before you use the item, but you can use it waaay quicker than the visual change would indicate
More importantly, they are freely giving you 4 more slots to quick use WITHOUT putting too much in the main one we are used to use (lol). The clunky thing of dropping the thumb is a thing but seriously, strategy. You time when you have a window to do things xd People trying to heal mid combo of a boss and then complaining is the most absurd thing I have ever seen
I was thinking the exact same thing, I feel like the whole pouch system was a great idea actually. Also, he said he used his horse way more than he used "crouch" like it was some pointless feature... I feel like he was trying to play Elden Ring like it was Dark Souls 3 because I used crouch legit all the time. If I wasn't in combat or going through an area I already cleared, I was probably crouching in dungeons. Even in the world itself I was crouching all the time, and I don't see how the "clicking left and right sticks down at the same time" would be better than the pouch system... yeah I just don't know about that whole section of what he was talking about
So my thing with the vigor is this. I have the lowest leveled vigor out of all my friends, however, I can dish out more, and absorb arguably more punishment than all of them. This is because leveling certain other stats boost your resistance like physical and magic damage negation. This helps with with what armor helps the situation too. In short, yes you can level vigor but you can also level everything else and not only take an extra one or two hits, but also dish out some more damage. (There;s a skill gap I should mention too) that's just knowing how and when to dodge, and what shield benefits me best, if you have a lot of stamina try a shield, you'd survive attacks straight on that would otherwise be difficult to dodge or difficult to eat.
I absolutely love this game. So brutal. Walking around with no markers stumbling onto things in such a vast area is an amazing experience. Gotta say if you don't like it, remember, not everything is for everybody.
The game kinda tell you where you should go, but its way better than a quest marker. Instead of “here the precise location where you need to go” its “hey you can go that way, do what you want.”
i think quest markers would kinda ruin the experience, but something like a dialogue log to track what npcs said so you dont have to talk to them again if you forget would be nice
been dumping almost all of my weekend hours into this game, I love it! The only thing I actually really fucking hate is when your horse dies and you try to resummon only to be met with a warning that your health flask will be depleted by 1 to resummon. Like dawg, I KNOW!!! Just resummon my horse before I die trying to menu to say yes. They should make a patch where you get an option to turn off that warning. When you got over a dozen flasks it becomes pointless to have the warning
OH YEAH. DUDE. F THAT PROMPT. Can't tell you how many times I've shouted like NO FING DUH I WANT MY HORSE BACK. I completely forgot to add that in the script.
Repeated bosses isn't really an issue for me. Elden ring has nearly 40 unique boss encounters, they could have left it at that, but instead gave us the chance to test our skills on a boss that previosly wrecked us now that we're more practiced and have some cool gear.
Newbies to Fromsoft games starting with Elden Ring is like never eating spicy food and starting with a carolina reaper. Going in an open world direction was really ambitious for them, and the boss attack patterns in ER feel way more aggressive than in the other From games i played. I appreciate From appealing to the people they know love their work and building on everything that came before it and not generalizing the experience to death.
Dragoncrest greatshield talisman + pearldrake talisman +2 + Lionel’s armor is what I used and with that the damage felt pretty balanced (still pretty strong, but not “lose 3/4 of your health to some carpet static” strong)
You don’t actually need to wait any amount of time to use the triangle/y menu. If you press a direction before the menu shows up it still uses the item.
Thank you for being fair about the endgame difficulty (I can see some fanboys saying the game is perfect in case of difficulty which is wrong.) The fact that a ubisoft dev so openly complains about something completely irrelevant in this game make me so happy cause I can feel how their ass is getting burned. Keep up the good job manley👌
It's awesome to see so many people calling them out on their pettiness. You have so many people saying any criticism is just heresy and that every thing is intentional while also forgetting that it's a game and nothing's perfect. Thank you!
@@ISIIN15 if they nerfed the attack and health of enemies in the haligtree by a third, the game would only improve. They do enough of ramping up the tricks and numbers of enemies, they don't need to make everything feel like NG+3 too. And I shudder to think of actual NG+3 there. Wouldn't basic attacks nearly oneshot you at max tankiness? Not that there's much reason for NG+ in this game anyway...
3:27 That's not entirely true. My only other experience with Fromsoft was that 20-ish minutes of Sekiro I played a few months ago. I came into Elden Ring knowing I was gonna get my ass handed to me. I didn't go online to bitch about it. I went online to look up tips on how to "git gud". 20-ish hours later I'm having a blast! Dying a lot but still, a blast.
I absolutely love elk rink, and I NEVER played a souls game. What I recommend is watching video guides on your first play through if your having a bad time. I hope more new players learn this because it can really help you out in the beginning and soon enough you'll enjoy the game like everyone else, or make the game better than it was for you.
This was so good! I like how even though you argue against a lot of these hot takes you at least give them some credit when they do make an actual valid point. Personally Elden Ring has become my new favorite game of all time, it not only met my expectations, it exceeded them in almost every way. It isn't a perfect game like with the absence of a quest log which I do think would be helpful for the side quests or as an optional feature, but the few faults it does have I feel are just outweighed by everything it does right. It feels like such a breath of fresh air when it comes to how its designed. You just earned a new subscriber!
I’m really happy that you can alter bindings, I’ve altered them to what some people consider cursed X is light, heavy is Y Interact is bumper and item is trigger It’s halped my combat and just made using items not need me to remove my fingers
odd thing about quest logs is that many people don't really like them. >spam talk at npc >accept quest >go into questlog >log tells you to kill boss X in zone Y at area Z >do the thing >win in games with quest logs i tend to just not give a shit about what the npc has to say, since i'll just get better info in the log. in elden ring i actually have to listen to what an npc says, as if im actually talkin to the npc. maybe instead of a quest log that just tells you where to go, you can have a journal so you can read the last thing Ranni said to you while you were imagining holding hands with her.
Always glad to see another video from you! Unfortunately, my PC has reached the cutoff point of what it can run, so I can't actually play ER, but it's great to see people are enjoying it. If I ever upgrade, it's going straight on my To Play list.
Although I am a complete beginner when it comes to the soul's games, I absolutely enjoyed getting my ass kicked for the first 20-30 hours, just getting destroyed by bosses and then exploring and learning the way the game and mechanics works made defeating bosses so much more rewarding.
That's the bread & butter of souls games. Should definitely give their other works a shot if you like it. Both Bloodborne & Sekiro are different in terms of combat, but follow that same structure.
@@bbbbbbb51no not sekiro rn, proly get ur hand into Ds3 and bloodborne bfr sekiro or have the most painful time of ur life. Sekiro leaves less room for error compared to both of the other games. But the fights are fucking pure magic, this is what weebs and movies think their stuff looks like, shit is beautiful
i remember seeing the little statue gargoyle dudes in the catacombs and saw they had the same moves as the thralls from dark souls 3 and I literally said "oh thats cool, it fits the character and now i know how the enemy works from memory and can deal with them better"
I bought elden ring cause of all the hype and praise around it, but I just wasn’t my thing. It was my first souls-like game ever, and I think that contributed to why I couldn’t get into it. I understand why people liked it, though
I like the horse mount decision. You can equip it to your regular equip slots instead of the pouch to use it like (presumably) your ESTUS flask. Personally I put my crimson/cerulean gamer tears in my pouch since directional inputs while chuggin' aren't super consequential. The horse ring then becomes a choice for the player- do you add it to quick equips, put it on your pouch, or leave it in your inventory like some kind of savage? Plus this is a nifty and immersive way to customize your controls, since consumable equips are essentially an option screen to place them on various hotkeys.
Clicked so fast to watch, seriously the most slept on youtube channel. The quality of production and the content is honestly better than a lot of million sub channels😂. Hoping 2022 is the year you blow up so more people can appreciate this amazing content
The only two parts of the game that took away from the experience for me was: enemies being reused, and those same enemies having way more health and damage. The freaking Storm Knights already ahd some killer moves, now they do twice as much damage with 3 times the health. God why, no.
I don't usually comment on video's but I've been subscribed to your content for a while, they are fairly well made and entertaining videos. Sometimes I just put it in the background and listen along while working on various things. While other times i just go through a list of videos while just relaxing and unwinding. As others have mentioned glad you're keeping it up dude, hopefully your channel will blow up someday! (In terms of views and subscribers of course haha)
I find the archaic english they used immersive, and fits the setting well. I also remember everyone's name that i met on my 40hrs playtime, you dont need quest logs, you need to use your cognitive map or just google it. This is why we cant have immersive rpgs, and the dialogues are jarring because the npcs uses modern english in a medieval type setting. Perhaps try to learn more.
Trust me when i say i LOVE the archaic language. The NPC dialogue even in DS1 and DeS just felt so eerie and off it's what made the characters seem so interesting. It is in NO way a complaint.
I agree, I love the DS language. But unfortunately when you have one brain cell and it’s focused on killing things to hit the happy button in your brain, it can be kinda hard to decipher if you dont like to read and really grasp whats being said.
I rember playing adventure games when I was little that practically required a notebook to keep track of everything. I feel like i would have done better with elden ring quests if i had kept actual notes instead of mental ones. A game that expects me to engage with it rather than spoonfeeding me everything? Wild.
That's great and all but problem comes up if you'd have to stop playing for a while and come back now the 7 or 8 NPC's you talked to are gone to somewhere that you have no idea of because it's been a while since you played the game. Now its basically forcing you to Google where they are which is a bad game design. Even just a dialogue log can solve this.
My main issue with the ER quests weren't that there wasn't a quest log, since i always had like a little notebook that i wrote all the stuff in i had to remember. This was one of my favorite parts about it, and it was really emersive. What isn't emersive is having to look up online where to go next to progress a quest line cause the npcs just keep disappearing without telling you where to find them next, and the next time you see them they are dead cause you didn't give them their rowa rainsins in time or some sh*t like that. Idk just add some cheesy dialogue like "i will be waiting at this exact location btw but dont kill that dude first before you visit me"
I’m a strange camp where I can appreciate the game being a masterpiece but being new to the souls franchise and not having an abundant amount of time to play it, I haven’t played it much because there is a steep learning curve to the nuances in levelling up, weapon levelling, etc. and i think it’s what holds a lot of people back… although admittedly I mainly just bought Elden Ring to stress test my new gaming laptop with ultra graphic settings on. It’s noice 👌🏼
JUst take it slowly man you can do it. You could also try the other games first to get used to the style of fighting. Everyone gets their ass beat and are lost at first. I started with Demon's Souls back in 09 and believe me everyone feels the same way at first regardless of which game you start with.
@@ManleyReviews I agree with you on the controls. Especially as a first time player they were hard to get used to. But once they became muscle memory, the game picked up pace so quickly and I felt like a real gamer lol
Seeing the controller problems, it's kinda comical how I saw so many people say it should be only played on a controller, while I had an easy time on keyboard.
Back in the 4th grade, certain children in class pretended to like a baked dinner of meat & vegetables because it made them feel more mature and sophisticated than the kids who said pizza or McDonalds. Deep down we all knew they lived off cookie dough......but yeah this weird atmosphere around Elden Ring reminds me of that.
It’s almost the same as saying something is “an acquired taste” to sound sophisticated when really what you are eating tastes horrible and only becomes palatable after forcing yourself to eat it so many times you get used to the acrid taste.
on having a quest log, i think that they should have a journal in which you the player can write in, so you can keep notes on what these characters want you to do.
I haven’t played a single souls game in my life, instead of complaining I learned from my mistakes and put limits on myself. Elden Ring is an amazing game and my only complaint is the map not being bigger, because this shit is FUN.
The controls is probably my only real criticism, I die all the time trying to do certain things in the middle of combat. I also wouldn't mind more in depth questing system, not like a check off list with waypoints but just actual definable quests.
Try using something where you can type the seemingly important stuff NPC's say, most quests can be followed by just hearing the dialogue and going to the place they said or you just finding them along the way when exploring. NPC's in the souls series talk directly to the character not the player that's why they usually don't tell you where they are going or what they are doing becouse you have your things to do and they their own, even with that said it would be really nice to have a ingame notebook to write stuff instead of having to use a physical notebook or a digital one, they already added a system to mark on the map NPC's that you talked to so they could do it at some point.
Na, I disagree, I don't have quest shit in real life. I love that I'm totally lost, that I found them my mere causality or because I builded a huge detective case behind my favorite NPC (or I just google lol)
I'm pretty sure I played Dark Souls for the first time after recently playing Skyrim and Dead Space for the first time. It obviously took a little bit to get used to all the information that isn't told out right, but basic functions operate no more complicated than the inventory in Skyrim, and the difficulty isn't far off from Dead Space. Plenty of casul people have played both of those, they should be ready for dark souls.
jsut feels a tad unnecessary at this point. I get old souls not existing long enough to know these things could use tinkering... and tbh i don't even care. i just hate to see people pass on this AMAZING franchise because of sour first impressions.
Holy shit this review was needed. I do agree that the biggest flaws are the controls, which are a bit overloaded and would’ve been much better if there was more freedom to customize button input. There have been multiple times when I just wished “damn I wish I could’ve set my sprint and jump button separately” and other thoughts, and I found it kind of frustrating when I didn’t have that option. The difficulty spike after the… ‘first half’ of the game (Leyndell) could have been toned down just a little bit, or maybe gave players better ways to deal with taking damage. I think the devs wanted the player to actually use all the game mechanics (throwing consumables, stealth mechanics, status affects, etc) and their focus in the later areas to force them to ‘engage fully’ with the gameplay, but what I think this actually does is discourage build variety, which is pretty exhausting, to be honest. And also, I think if we had a ‘dialogue journal’ to record what the NPCs said, that would have made the side quests much more enjoyable, considering this is a vast open world game and lots of people don’t have photographic memory to remember what a ‘friendly dude dressed in armor’ said to them 12 hours prior when the entire game is about killing ‘dudes dressed in armor’ And IF ONLY the other game devs had explained these criticisms in a clearer way other than throwing fancy game developing terms in everyone’s faces, I think they wouldn’t have faced a lot of backlash. Elden Ring is still 10/10 though. Thank you so much for making this much needed review. You earned a subscriber.
Funnily enough, throughout the entire segment I was sitting there as a keyboard player - you know, the thing controller players say is oh so horrid to use for souls games - and was quite content having faced NONE of these problems. At most I had to take my hand away from my mouse for a moment to press and arrow key, which wasn't any trouble since I could still move.
My controller has two extra buttons on the handle part so my middle fingers became responsible for jumping and dodging which honestly did make things a bit easier for me.
You could buy a notebook and keep track yourself, but thats a hefty amount of work just to remember Sellen vaguely mentioned a fake wall somewhere near Sellia.
@@primisto7530 I switched my left and right weapon slots to the buttons 1 and 2. Scroll up for spells and scroll down for consumables. Made it a lot more convenient.
I didn’t know people move their left thumb off the stick. I always moved my right over the right stick so I can keep looking around and hit the d pad quickly.
Elden Ring was my first fromsoft game. I died to Margit 80 times and it only made me more determined to win. The sheer dopamine that was released in my body from killing Margit was among top 10 moments of my life (not very interesting life atm, but we thug it out). In terms of gaming I’d say I’m pretty competitive though. So my drive to keep on improving was at the max. I now have 100% on Elden Ring and Sekiro and I’m currently playing through Dark Soul 1 remastered and I’m going to finish the series. I just want to say that even though I hadn’t played any souls game until 2022, even I knew about how important dodge rolling was from the impact it’s had on social media that I see.
You get to endgame Your offensive stats capped, your weapons maxed out You get oneshot I think that's a very clear hint on what you should do... You get your deffensive stats up
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The difficulty is one thing. It's the abrupt spike in difficulty that I see as problematic. Maliketh and Malenia are ridiculous. That being said I haven't played the patches yet.
@@ianlopes2880 I am well aware. And keep in mind, I was able to beat them with a pretty poor build. I still think they were too abrupt of a spike in difficulty.
I don't mind reusing bosses but the thing that drives me up a wall is "Remember that kind of hard boss? *Well here's 2 or 3 of them at the same time!"* That's just pure filler and annoying
While everyone else was enjoying the game after launch, the haters shit talked the game to abyss. Literally before most people had completed the game the steam reviews were overwelmingly negative but as soon as everyone completed the game with 100+ hours it went to overwhelmingly positive in a heart beat
I think this video raises an interesting topic of discussion. You mention that new players will go online and have their experience tainted by others complaining about the game and I find this usually happens to me, i’ll keep up with videos or threads about games i’m invested in and I’ve found it tarnishes my playthrough experience because i’ll have perspectives and information about the game that I wouldn’t have had prior. I have deliberately avoided all content, spoilers, videos, guides etc. for elden ring, and I have to say it is one of the most refreshing, exhilarating games I have played because I’m going in completely blind. I think hype trains and the rumour mill for games is so vast that it can genuinely erase any opportunity to truly experience a game as it’s intended. I can understand wanting help if a game has you stumped, but there’s so much that can sully how you enjoy a game, especially when playing it for the first time. What are your thoughts on how content on a trending game affects a player’s views/experience?
I take this approach with most video games. If I see something I might be interested in I mostly ignore everything other than trailers and gameplay reveals. in my experience going into a game blind with no prior knowledge or opinions lets you enjoy it a lot more for what it is rather than what you or other people WANT it to be. Since doing this I rarely regret purchases. The game that opened my eyes to this was Outer Wilds. Saw it on gamepass, had no idea what it was, played it and it become my favorite game of all time. If I were to watch anything about that game I would have been robbed of the full experience because it's designed around your own curiosity, everything is a spoiler.
The end game content could probably do with a bit of rebalancing but the softcaps for leveling are much higher in this game to the point where I do think the devs intended on you leveling your vigor up to 60 by the endgame as that's when the softcap starts
The difficulty of Elden Ring made completing it meaningful. I can legitimately see why more casual gamers cannot learn it. Its unforgiving and relentless but it can be learned and conquered with effort, skill, and thinking. Some bosses might even require changing your entire favorite build. I have never seen a game not explain anything and pull it off as a benefit. It encourages players to explore the open world and grow from a tiny nooblet naked wretch into a fully armored magic infused duel greatsword wielding master.
I got so used to the claw grips that I didn't realize how stupid it was that I even had to do the things you mentioned at 7:00. I can do it, and it doesn't interrupt combat for me, but looking back it definitely doesn't seem like good controller design. It can be argued that when you are trying to do something like riding your horse or drink a heal, you should find a safe time in battle to preform that task anyway, and the alternative is to scroll through the item bar (the item bar is SO much worse), but if the horse or heals were an ability rather than a conventional item that would probably be better.
elden ring is my first ever from software game ive ever played and i absolutely loved every ounce of enjoyment i got out of it, there were only a couple of bosses that i got fed up with and made me want to stop (im looking at you godskin duo) but other than that i only broke one controller 10/10 would play for another 150 hrs
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Also this vid is old, i kinda take back the bit about vigor (yes i upped to 60 something later). Game def could use some scaling system though so I'm also not one shotting bosses.
also go watch the newer stuff it's way better.
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Ok but let’s not call dying light 2 a quality game, it’s was more broken then cyberpunk on ps4.
@@James-9999 was it really? I never picked up a copy however I am curious as to some issues. I have a ps4pro myself. What was bad about it? If you are comparing it to cyberpunk, i am definitely curious.
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First ever elden ring video that I’ve seen that calls leveling Vigor a “bitch move”. Absolutely wild take
Especially hilarious because of the damage tangent 5 second prior
How else am I meant to cast from hp??? 😭
Gets even wilder, when you see him critize the amount of damage the player takes as too big while also having a soreseal equiped. I mean... ofc you get two shot, when you reduce your damage resistance by 25%, are not wearing high resistance armor (like another ~10% damage resistance missing) and also do not equip any of the damage resistance talisnams which makes you miss out on up to 20% damage resistance. That does not mention any of the damage resis buffs from the physick or ashes of war or incantations.
Add to all of that people not understanding the relation of percentages and absolute numbers and you get gems like ~10% resistance total with 1500hp with ~60-80% resistance possible for a health pool of 2400 points. Bonus points for you when you know what "effective Hit points" are...
It is totally possible to not sacrifice any damage and to tank 3-4 hits in late game eras.
This gets even funnier when you reach the DLC. Every enemy there absolutely destroys you.
@@kamikaze418i've been trained in ringed city for that
I've got a general rule: if Twitter thinks something, the opposite is likely true.
problem is they think every extreme so it's almost impossible to get a balanced take
You do realise that more often than not Twitter thinks something AND his opposite.
Like there will always be people on twitter to say the two extremes of everything.
The problem with Twitter is there's not just ONE type of crazy... There's lots of different FACTIONS of crazy; all crammed into the same space. On the same tweet you can find responses that are on completely opposite ends of the spectrum from each other, yet still manage to be equally stupid.
Bold of you to assume anyone on Twitter thinks...
AAAAAND I have no doubt you use Twitter
The funniest part for me was when a bunch of imagery in Elden Ring that was ripped straight from Berserk led people on Twitter to learn what Berserk was and freaking out.
win win.
Elden Ring reawakened the child in me and brought back the wonder and imagination that I thought I lost years ago. Fantastic game.
so true. First time i've played a game that made me forget I'm making a video on it.
Elden Ring awakened the child in me and bought back the rage and pain that I thought I lost after bloodborne years ago. Fantastic game.
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As someone new to the series, but a fan of hard games, the hardest part of this game was figuring out how weapon and character stat scaling works.
Oh BELIEVE ME. I remember studying it harder than most college exams. it's incredibly obtuse but hey, alls well that ends well.
Im new to soul type games too...well kinda but ill say the hard part for me was rolling. Either too fast, too slow or too many till i run out of stamina and get my ass kicked
it's a very precise dodge in a way that has to be timed strategically. and elden ring sure knows how to punish it haha.
On the bright side the weapon damage scaling system is the same across all of these games, so you won't have to re-learn it if you play the older ones. It's relatively simple once you understand it, the games just make absolutely no effort to explain it.
@@ManleyReviews yh ive gotten better at it, I focus on the hand movements rather than the attack itself
My biggest complain is that noone says "bearer seek seek lest" and there is no fanservice like an ornstein-bossfight
In an industry where everybody just wants to make a bunch of money and call it a day, you have to apreciate Fromsoftware, the game is not perfect but since the moment it begins you start feeling the huge love and care they put into this game.
10/10 for me.
what about the later areas? They where clearly rushed just like in ds3. Its bandai who only cares about money and they definitely limit fromsofts artistic integrity for the sake of release.
@@dylanschmeichel2008 I felt like all of the areas were pretty well thought out, they didnt feel rushed to me at all. Thats JMO
@@dylanschmeichel2008 keep complaining and enjoy stuff like cyberpunk2077, rockstar remake and ubisoft games.
@@dylanschmeichel2008 what lol maliketh’s boss room, actually the whole of farum azula was though even down to getting the secret boss below the place, oh unless you didn’t make it that far and just ranting on something you haven’t been to
Game is definitely not perfect and can't be a 10/10. Maybe the experience was a 10/10. The game and the narrative are maybe at most an 8.5 or 9
4:20 "Saying Elden is too much like Dark Souls 3, is like a weird way of saying 'Thank You"
That delivery, the logic behind the joke, everything about it, made me laugh harder than anything I've heard on UA-cam in years. Bravo my man.
I very much appreciate that.
dark souls 3 was awful.
i feel sorry for you both for not getting to experience real souls games
peak numbers and the height of the series are two very different things
@@heroofhyrule9778 because playing dark souls 3 means i didn't play dark souls 1. ok.
@@ManleyReviews you didnt play it when it was the only souls game and teeming with life on the xbox 360 fool, now shut up
@@heroofhyrule9778 I think I'm struggling to understand what your saying exactly. But I do apologize for having to inform you, your assumptions are way off base. I've played every single Souls-based game, including Demon Souls, Sekiro and Bloodborne. Dark Souls 1/Remastered is still my favorite of all time, and I've played it to death so much that I've even made several of the new class mods for both DS1 and DS3 on the Nexus mod site.
Elden Ring broke me in how to approach a quest now. Like now even if a game has a journal, I would just not read it and run around the world hoping I'll meet the right NPC in the right place
Using the Triangle/Y + Dpad is actually instant, you’re just waiting to see the visual cue of the menu hence it feels slow. Just press the combo and the horse works instantly just like you want it to bud. The I-frames of mounting/dismounting Torrent are meant to be used in combat.
still doesn't feel quite right having to use the dpad in conjunction with the triangle when there are more streamlined options present. Not really a complaint on the game, just couldn't have been even better imo.
@@ManleyReviews I never felt awkward with it, probably because it's ergonomically easier with the PS4 controller than the Xbox one.
Equip Torren ring on quick slot, belong with mana flark boost juice and summon ash
@@MazrimTaim I use the Xbox controller and I’ve never had an issue with torrent either.
I feel like clicking both buttons at the same time is(or would be) equally as tedious if not worse than quickly holding y and then using the D pad due to the way you'd have to position your hand so that the sticks click instead of slide. All options have a downside?
I always love seeing the production you put into these videos. Makes me wanna try video essays again.
I remember your "is mayoress an instrument" beat in one of your videos for some fkn reason lmao. Thanks dude.
The term "UX" pretty much always relates to how a user interacts with a program, or rather the user interface (UI), like how you interact with a graphical user interface and how efficiently you can do tasks through it. So in case of video games it only applies to things like control schemes, menu navigation and so on, and not to the gameplay itself. It really is a term that's more often used in case of software like browsers, file managers, editors etc than with video games.
I’d say that’s because UX is quite neglected in video games, whereas the implementation is very much important everywhere else.
I do want to see studios focus on UX. Hell even I slept on FS games for ages because I just didn’t understand the menu and navigation. But FS is far from the worst culprit.
It’s also worth noting that Japanese user navigation is so much more different than Western types. They favour a more holistic approach.
I think game UX is part of the gameplay like as like you say it relates to how it interacts with the game.
Take the quest mark debate as an example. Wouldn’t you think that the choice for not having a giant ‘!’ UI icon above npcs is an intentional choice to make a unique User(gamer) Experience?
Vigor really isn't optional here like it was in Souls. The endgame difficultly spike did force me to experience more of the game my first time through, and raising vigor near the softcap of 60 gets you that margin for error back. I don't see it as a problem, the enimies hit hard and you are required to find a way to deal with that fact.
Yeah people don't realize it yet but scaling isn't anywhere near as important as it used to be for most weapons. Vit-gouge builds are standard now, you get most of your dmg from upgrades.
30 vigor is all you really need imo. Depends on build and playstyle but it really just comes down to how well you time your dodges.
I had 25 vig until I hit the wall that is Malenia.
*laughs in endurance and Bloodhound Step*
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in all seriousness, as someone who DEFINITELY lacks the skill required to both make and use the many builds of Elden Ring, I find myself relying on a variety of tools and just my own amount of skill to get through bosses...
and patience. plenty of it.
I buff my weapons, I use items, I cast a few spells...basically, experiment with stuff. I'm tackling the endgame bosses with all the trial and error I can handle, and it's genuinely fun to see if I can just work with what I've got or if I have to find a new gameplan.
lol Im happy the first thing I did in elden ring is run thru the whole game at like lvl 20 for low level pvp so im already extremely used to every damn enemy one shotting me
The thing I love most about FromSoft games is that they show immense respect for their players.
They don't dumb things down. They make progressing the game a process of exploration and discovery without much, if any, hand holding.
They willingly risk hiding MASSIVE chunks of some of the best parts of the game in ways that some players could easily miss or never experience, which makes finding/figuring out how to access that stuff feel like a huge treat to those who like to explore every nook and cranny.
They don't hold back with challenge, and even though they add a ton of ways to make the game easier or harder, they put that power in your hands and make it a much more organic experience rather than just clicking on a setting in a menu somewhere.
As a huge souls fan, I still find the refined gameplay and challenge in Sekiro to be the most rewarding but for a souls game, Eldenring really is a 10 out of 10, even with it's flaws.
honestly true.
How does Miyazaki's taint taste like?
Sekiro deserves a 10/10 more than Elden Ring imo. Call me a heretic, but ER really starts to drag in the latter parts of the game, and some of the combat changes are questionable. Sekiro is as close to perfect as you can get however. That game needs a sequel.
@@jooot_6850 Nah, Sekiro drags it too, half of the bosses are reused and becomes boring. It doesn't have much replay ability, you will be playing the same way in every play through.
@@yourewallsareveryconvenien8292 minibosses are reused, yes, but ER reused them too, so that’s kind of a moot point. The main bosses that get reused are pretty different from each other. For example, Shura Isshin and Sword Saint Isshin feel completely different.
I think that ER really starts to slow down once you get to Morgott: your build is pretty much completed and any more levels won’t net you too much, so there’s no reason to explore more of the map. And the next few areas are pretty boring. Mountaintop of the Giants is very pretty but there’s not much there besides a hero’s grave and of course the Fire Giant. Crumbling Farum Azula is a much better map with more to see but the 5 endgame boss quadruple whammy is wayy too concentrated. It’s just boss after boss with nothing to do in between. Would’ve been much better if they were spread a bit more evenly, but I’d have no idea how FromSoft would do that given the same routing as the normal game.
It’s true that Sekiro is less replayable, but I think that first play through is just so much more polished it makes up for it.
To be completely fair I’ve only done one play through of ER, maybe now that I can beeline to the bosses and minibosses that actually matter I’ll have more fun with it.
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"Thine tarnished worcestershire Gobbledeegook"
That there deserves a sub
This guy is truly a hidden gem, you're gonna hit millions of subs in no time.
Agree.
His channel is quality bro
Yup. A dragon egg waiting to hatch.
one year later
bro isnt even 500k rn
"Read thousands of Twitter comments and reddit posts..."
Proof not all heroes wear masks. How you got out of all of that without brain damage, I'll never know. Elden Ring is my first Souls game and yeah Margit stomped my face in, but I did appreciable damage to him my first time and it encouraged me to learn. Honestly I have not had this level of wonder and immersion in a game since Ocarina of Time came out and broke my kid brain.
I read things no mortal should lay eyes on. the reddit posts were by far the most mentally damaging.
Did he get out unharmed, though?
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 nope, he gave 1/2 points to twitter
For SEA, it’s facebook that’s garbage. And as for me who can read English well and living in a country in SEA, I avoid social media all together.
To be fair, Margit stomps EVERYONE. I've beaten every souls game before, and the experience I previously had didn't help me nearly as much as I thought it would. Why? Because Margit read me. Every time I distanced myself, I knew he was waiting for me to heal so he could either throw a knife or lunge at me. When he did a fast chain of attacks, there was a high chance of him following up with slow attacks right after, just to throw me off. Often he would do some big attack, wait for me to overcommit, and then use his little dagger to take a little bit of my health. If I overcommited even harder, he would leap away and throw the dagger at me.
There are very few Souls bosses like this. Usually they have set patterns to their attacks that YOU have to adapt to, they dictate the rythm of the fight and you follow. In Elden Ring I actually felt like I was fighting an opponent that knew what they were going against, making the fight much more immersive imo.
Margit also teaches an important lesson to DS veterans: play this like a dark souls game and you'll be beaten to hell and back. Use the game's unique mechanics, bitch.
Honestly, one thing I've loved about soulslike games is actually JOURNALING stuff down, whether on paper or on a notes app or something.. it makes you feel like an actual adventurer or whatever lol. the problem with elden ring's quest is they're too cryptic, but i dont want them to add a hand-holding quest journal but instead just make the hints more explaining
I actually disagree and think Fromsoft have made quite large strides in quests since DS1. in DS1, quests have *MULTIPLE* points of failure that aren't obvious to the player and then there's one in particular that LITERALLY makes firelink shrine useless for half the bloody game. In addition, quest progression wasn't as cut and clear as it in elden ring and I honestly found DS1's quests to be a massive hassel, espically with things like how Siegeward's quest plays out, which made them a very frustrating mess to follow and also a mess if you wanted to avoid certain outcomes (see firelink above...God damn it Lautrec). In Elden ring, quests are more sidelined, but to me more thought out with more clear instructions and ideas that are communicated a bit better to the player then other titles. Even DS3 is a little guilty of hard to follow questlines, prime examples being irnia's and The Lord of Hollows questline, including Anri's. I also think Elden ring did a good job of removing a lot of the less obvious points of failure that lead to extreme frustration in older titles, overall I think from made huge leaps with questlines in Elden ring. There's still improvements to be made (like Millicent I think is a poorly designed quest because her locations are very easy to miss) but a lot of them felt natural to me.
Good idea
I like to think the reason why they re-used Dark Souls 3 assets was so they could get some things done quickly and then focus on the more important parts, like the open world for example.
i don't understand why people are butt hurt by reusing assets it their property
@@dragongamerx12 Legit. Yakuza has been reusing assets since the second game came out, and no one whines
I personally didn't mind the reskinned/reused bosses in terms of difficulty, but it did take out some of the excitement when exploring (particularly in catacombs/dungeons)
I think the one time i've felt the opposite is the tree guardians.
I liked the tiny asylum demon callback
I'd have loved to see more boss n enemy types. But it's okay.
@@sallymae3631 there's already plenty of original enemy types
But by no means am i gonna tell you you're wrong, cuz i want some more enemy types too. It's always fun to see
catch a spirit in catacombs is kinda bruh.
I feel better in mine have upgrade stuff.
the game has few weapons.
swords have many but scythes or large spears or rapiers have a few varieties maybe with some DLC this will change.
I don't know if Elden ring will end like ds3 or if they will add more stuff
Personally I don't care about reused bosses but what I absolutely hate is how the game often throws multiple bosses at the same time in a room in a lazy attempt to be more challenging, and in many instances that's just annoying and hardly balanced. Player already fought a Chrystallian? Let em fight 2 at once. And then next time 3 with scarlet rot. And some areas have like 20 exploding enemies in one spot, completely ignoring that the combat system isn't from Dynasty Warriors.
So basically Elden Ring's worst parts are what's wrong with Dark Souls 2. But overall it's still insanely good.
5:10 I will also say to this, from both a Gamer and a Game Developer perspective, I see this as something that is completely fine because it massively sped up the completion of Elden Ring by allowing them to forgo remaking literally every asset, it isn't done in a disruptive way that takes away from the experience, and it even allows us to see some of their Cut Content actually fleshed out and used in a game which I fucking love.
Exactly, any efficient developer is going to re-use assets. This is just them saving time and money which allows them to make more games faster and with bigger budgets, and considering every souls like they've released since 2011 has been GOTY or a GOTY contender you would think people would applaud their efficiency while still being able to make quality content.
I've got like 200+ hours in DS3 and I didn't even notice any re-used assets or animations in Edlen Ring, except the Dog Sword fight, which was a positive because it's obviously a big nod to Sif from DS1.
IMO I feel like the gaming industry just got very salty over Pokemon re-using assets to an absurd degree with little to no new content that every time they hear "re-used assets" they are immediately angry.
totally agree! Imagine of they tried to do Tears of the kingdom in a totally new map instead of expanding on the same world from breath of the wild. It would not be nearly as good. Reusing assets is a great way to experiment and improve gameplay IMHO
@@WrathofFenrir99 I didn't say it was deep or brilliant it's just efficient. Re-using bosses is pretty standard for open-world games. The only boss IMO that was used a bit too much was the Godskin duo, most of the other bosses that are repeated have counterparts that can be found in the open world (not behind a fog wall).
I mean I don't really play ubisoft games, not because I don't like them, I just never really got around to it, so I can't say much on them, but simply re-using bosses isn't bad. There's also 112 unique bosses out of the 151 in Elden ring, so I don't think you see the same boss 5 times in the game except if you count each encounter with the individual Godkin Duo and the Duo together.
Ohhhhhshiiiiiiii I'm so hyped about the bloom fx and all the crazy lighting that's going from the modern souls games and into the AC line 😝 the game engine is not going to be all balanced on epic giant map scales but the enemy ai is going to be so hardcore I can't wait. You probably understand that structure and struggle to convert assets but every upscaling to hd and such has to seriously cut down rendering the game overall?
Sorry I'm very excited so I hope I made sense.
The fact that people complain when THE ENTIRE SOULS SERIES, including DS 2(to a lessar extent because 2 has a lot of unquie movesets) 3 reuse a lot of the exact same move sets (greatswords are the most obvious example to me) and point to ELDEN RING as an "asset flip" for it is mind boggling. It's less of a reuse and more like giving the player what they'd expect. Because the same greatsword moveset is used in DS1 and 3, it creates an expectation for what the weapon class feels like. And I don't recall people saying the same thing about DS3 which did much the same with movesets.
I remember when the sorcery women said: "Find my body. it is in the ruins near the church, to the south."
So they _can_ write side quests a mortal can understand without a wiki and a thesaurus? Or did they just forget to shakespear-ify that line?
Fr. I actually really strongly disagree that the game needs a quest journal, I think that would almost completely take away from what makes the Souls/Elden Ring quests special, but I completely agree that there should be more things like that where quests could be reasonably expected to be continued without having to look them up...
Example for me is when White Mask Varre left the message at The First Step that said he was at the Church to the west of such-and-such ruins. Alot of quests just leave you completely open-ended with no guidance whatsoever, and unless you look them up its just up to you to happen to stumble upon whatever area/item/whatever in the correct order needed to continue the quest. Would be nice if most quests gave more clear ideas of what you would need to do if you wanted to continue that questline specifically.
Or, possibly a similar system to the message system where there's an in-game system that would allow other players to share hints with you possibly. That would feel more organic than looking something up in a wiki at least
@@fozzythasalesman6125 Absolutely true. Half of the quests end with "I hope we see each other again!" and you have no idea where tf to find them again because they hide in some obscure side area you already cleared.
Hey can you break the setting of the world and speak in clear 21st century English?
@MrHerm damn I’ve never heard of this idea and it’s damn good one. I hope they do something similar to what you said if not all.
@MrHerm great idea. Not sure if it aligns with the lore exactly how you described it, but definitely a great idea
I played all DS games and just couldn't finish them, the whole running from the bonfire to the boss through hordes of enemies just felt far too tedious for me. Elden Ring fixed that by just slapping Marika's ti- stakes near every encounter.
for me is different Elden Ring is little wrost that DS game. for me ds3 9.5/10 elden ring is 9/10
This is litteraly the only reason i disliked older DS games. The fact that i dont have to run back anymore is enough for me to try this game out.
Run faster then
Casual + Crestfallen + Touch Skill + Git Gut + You leveled Dex
@@primuspilusfellatus6501 the bonfires are much more plentiful as well. Makes a huge difference
If I recall correctly mounting was made difficult on purpose. The devs wanted you to dismount and engage the enemy. That is why there is a pop-up when your horse dies and you have additional step for reviving your horned mount. I think most if not all of the bosses were designed to fight you up close. I guess exception is Radhan who has ranged attacks and you have to avoid few arrows when you try getting closer to him. I am pretty sure this was discussed in one of the interviews with game creators.
I just bought Elden Ring last week. Instead of b*tching and complaining, I looked up walkthroughs and tutorials to make my character stronger. Anyone who complains about Elden Ring has no intent on learning how to actually play! This game has been one of the most fun and addicting experiences I’ve ever had. All I had to do was not give up and get help from videos. I went from sucking to defeating the first demi-god Godrik after about a day of learning from others
very true. most people don't hate the game.. they're just stuck on something. Usually through their undoing. I don't like that you have to do so much online foraging to figure it out as it just makes me OCD about missing out on things kinda spoiling a bit of the adventure... but I still wholeheartedly agree.
@@ManleyReviews well, this is my first souls game ever, so I need all the help I can get for the most part. I’d rather have this game figured out at a reasonable time than basically never
@@ManleyReviews I agree with both of you on this. While it does trigger some OCD and can derail my sense of adventure, because my nature demands I find and do everything, I feel that this isn't always a bad thing. This creates what is traditionally called A Shared Cultural Moments. Basically, when everyone gathers around a specific topic and exchange knowledge and ideas about it. Some will depend on it to get through the culture moment but then in future discussions of the topic we come with a much more complete knowledge and often times still have stories of our own to add to the adventure.
The problem is that this concept of a shared cultural moments flies over some folks head. They think they have to beat the game on their own not realizing that From wants you talk to others and learn from others. They try to approximate the watercooler in the form of the player messages and ghosts. Folks who are stuck need to realize it is ok to use all the tools and to use the guidance of others as we are all culturally on this adventure and it shouldn't diminish the experience because you still have to slay that dragon yourself. It's like my mom use to say, "Just because you have the map doesn't mean it will be an easy trip."
@@Writh811 I’m honest with myself when I say that I need these guides to figure out the game. Yeah, it could derail some people’s sense of adventure and I know I’ll be judged for it, but I’m having a ton more fun knowing how to play the game by watching others. Eventually I’ll make another character and do it myself and try to figure shit out using a completely different build.
@@quadgod77 actually when i played Demons Souls, thats fromsofts first souls like game. It actually came with a guide and when i followed the guide, i had so much fun and when the dark souls games came out.. i was just a beast.
I have problems with elden ring, but it has more to do with scaling and enemy placement. The number of runes you get for defeating enemies rarely seems like it is equivalent to the difficulty of the enemy themselves. Which means that you need to grind a lot while at the same time making enemies far to difficult to actually grind on. The gameplay itself is fun, the npcs are great (even if I wish you got more casual interactions with them, come on let me have Melina as an actual traveling companion) and I enjoy the story, but I so often feel under leveled for where I am
(Also for Christ sake, if I die fighting a night time exclusive boss then I shouldn't have to sit down at grace, advance time, get up, sit back down, and get back up every single time that I want to retry, just let me get right back to it)
", but I so often feel under leveled for where I am" that usually means u didnt explore much then, enemy scaling is fine in my book for most of the game barring snowmountain.
@flamingmanure for the exception of a few enemies that lore wise are supposed to be over powered, like bear runes in some areas or the rot mutated dogs next to the merchant north of caleid, yeah. Pretty balanced, you just need to change talismans and armours based on the area you're in and you'll be fine AS LONG AS YOU FUCKING LEVEL VIGOR, DO YOU PLAY OFFLINE?!
HAVE YOU NOT BEEN TAUGHT THAT LESSON BY INVADERS?!!?
LEVEL VIGOR OR INSTANT DEA-
You forget who engineered this masterpiece.
LEVEL VIGOR THEN
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Thanks!
God I love seeing the “dog” messages. They brighten my day. Also I have never beaten a fromsoft game and never really enjoyed the linear pathing of the dark souls games and I love open world games and I absolutely love elden ring. It’s great. Dark souls but open world is great.
dog!
most darksouls game other than ds3 are quite open actually you have the option to fight the bosses and explore at your own pace but yes elden ring is just fantastic.
@@zerotwo_.002 Really, it's more that ds1 is open, ds2 just has "which linear path do you want to go down", and bloodborne is also fairly linear. Still, agree with the rest of this.
@@namelessnightingale8991 Yeah that is fair the dlc are a bit more different but the dlc reminds me of the blizzard fuck land so lets not get there now lol.
Damn, you're pretty wrong
I still never really understood how you dont have at least 1 Million subs, you got it all and yet only (already a lot ngl) have 80k subs, i really hope you get a boom in recommendation so that you can grow faster, bk u defo deserve it. keep them coming
Never seen your channel until this video but this is super well-made, love your humor and how concisely you get across the point. I'll definitely be here when you upload more stuff in the future!
Thank you!
This is my first souls and getting into it was brutal. It took me literal days to beat margit. The pay off in leveling up amd just getting better at the game though is so satisfying. And once you understand the enemies more and add more diversity to you're own kit the fights get really exciting. Malenia for example took me a few days of attempts, but she never made me rage or felt unfair. Experimenting on how to beat her and learning her attacks was really fun and it became my favorite fight in the game.
Margit was a bitch for me two
Dunno man Malenia is good in every aspect except the healing. I’m a tank class and that’s the way I love to play. I shouldn’t need to remake my build into a fast untouchable coward class just so I can beat her. Healing through blocks was just stupid for me to witness honestly.
@@smittywerbenjagermanjensen5963 Even the tankiest tank isnt supposed to fat roll, considering how easy it is to have minimum endurance for mid-roll which can be used to dodge all of Malenias attacks.
@@OceanicManiac Thats not the point. Why must i conform to that rolling playstyle. Why has a entire mechanic been stripped from me? Blocking lets her heal despite me not taking any damge? How does that make sense? I had the medium roll I wasnt overweight but the healing mechanic was unfun. Just my opinion.
@@smittywerbenjagermanjensen5963 It's a tradeoff, if you refuse to learn how to dodge a bosses highly damaging attack, they get hp back. You can't expect all builds to be as effective as each other in every single situation, there'd be no point in build variety then. Although it's pretty funny calling anything unfun when your idea of fun is holding L1.
6:20 I thought this too for the longest time but you can actually use the "triangle menu" even if it hasn't physically shown up yet. The only thing the game checks for is if you're holding the button down, it doesn't check if the menu is displayed yet.
Exactly, that menu Is so practical that i have remapped both flasks to It. You can summon quick items in a fraction of a second, making It easier to heal. If you cant find .1 seconds in between enemy attacks It means you're playing way too aggresively, and that makes It so you're not in control of the fight. So, both complains about the Quick menu and enemies being too bloodborne-y are invalid.
Mh, the thing with the Y menu, the "pouch" is nonsense. Its absolutely quick enough and easy to use. I even have my Healing and Mana potions on that menu and I'm able to use them in mid combat with no problem. Can't agree there... (I should mention that I'm not the best souls player...)
Yeah i got almost as quick as just using the x(square) as with the button combo.(i also prefer doing it the old way and only used 2 slots in the pouch and the rest all were in the normal one click away type )
@Shen I see how people get confused though. There is a delay visually on the menu changing, and i guess lots of people think you need for that to happen before you use the item, but you can use it waaay quicker than the visual change would indicate
More importantly, they are freely giving you 4 more slots to quick use WITHOUT putting too much in the main one we are used to use (lol). The clunky thing of dropping the thumb is a thing but seriously, strategy. You time when you have a window to do things xd People trying to heal mid combo of a boss and then complaining is the most absurd thing I have ever seen
I was thinking the exact same thing, I feel like the whole pouch system was a great idea actually. Also, he said he used his horse way more than he used "crouch" like it was some pointless feature... I feel like he was trying to play Elden Ring like it was Dark Souls 3 because I used crouch legit all the time. If I wasn't in combat or going through an area I already cleared, I was probably crouching in dungeons. Even in the world itself I was crouching all the time, and I don't see how the "clicking left and right sticks down at the same time" would be better than the pouch system... yeah I just don't know about that whole section of what he was talking about
I just hate how bloody inconsistent fall damage is
So my thing with the vigor is this. I have the lowest leveled vigor out of all my friends, however, I can dish out more, and absorb arguably more punishment than all of them. This is because leveling certain other stats boost your resistance like physical and magic damage negation. This helps with with what armor helps the situation too.
In short, yes you can level vigor but you can also level everything else and not only take an extra one or two hits, but also dish out some more damage.
(There;s a skill gap I should mention too) that's just knowing how and when to dodge, and what shield benefits me best, if you have a lot of stamina try a shield, you'd survive attacks straight on that would otherwise be difficult to dodge or difficult to eat.
I absolutely love this game. So brutal. Walking around with no markers stumbling onto things in such a vast area is an amazing experience.
Gotta say if you don't like it, remember, not everything is for everybody.
The game kinda tell you where you should go, but its way better than a quest marker. Instead of “here the precise location where you need to go” its “hey you can go that way, do what you want.”
How about an option to turn on and off quest markers. You get what you want, I get what I want. Everyone wins.
i think quest markers would kinda ruin the experience, but something like a dialogue log to track what npcs said so you dont have to talk to them again if you forget would be nice
It's not for everyone is the best way to put it...
@@rainycake because the devs don't have to change their design philosophy just for your ass that's why
been dumping almost all of my weekend hours into this game, I love it! The only thing I actually really fucking hate is when your horse dies and you try to resummon only to be met with a warning that your health flask will be depleted by 1 to resummon. Like dawg, I KNOW!!! Just resummon my horse before I die trying to menu to say yes.
They should make a patch where you get an option to turn off that warning. When you got over a dozen flasks it becomes pointless to have the warning
OH YEAH. DUDE. F THAT PROMPT. Can't tell you how many times I've shouted like NO FING DUH I WANT MY HORSE BACK. I completely forgot to add that in the script.
Repeated bosses isn't really an issue for me. Elden ring has nearly 40 unique boss encounters, they could have left it at that, but instead gave us the chance to test our skills on a boss that previosly wrecked us now that we're more practiced and have some cool gear.
Nearly 40? It has like 70 or 80 lol. If a boss gets repeated, it still counts at Least once.
@@forwardmoving8252 I'm gay though
Newbies to Fromsoft games starting with Elden Ring is like never eating spicy food and starting with a carolina reaper.
Going in an open world direction was really ambitious for them, and the boss attack patterns in ER feel way more aggressive than in the other From games i played. I appreciate From appealing to the people they know love their work and building on everything that came before it and not generalizing the experience to death.
The reason why you took so much damage wasn't because you had 40 vigor, it's because you had a soreseal on you 💀
Late game difficulty can just be fixed with Dragoncrest great shield talisman and some decent armor. Best talisman in the game
Dragoncrest greatshield talisman + pearldrake talisman +2 + Lionel’s armor is what I used and with that the damage felt pretty balanced (still pretty strong, but not “lose 3/4 of your health to some carpet static” strong)
@@TheDarkPeasant Heck yeah! That’s the kind of build I like!
editing is always so good. seriously underrated channel
Channels gonna explode if he keeps the quality up. Just a matter of time.
That's the plan. Trying to release content on a 15 day schedule if I can keep it up.
You don’t actually need to wait any amount of time to use the triangle/y menu. If you press a direction before the menu shows up it still uses the item.
"Elden Ring is Dark Souls 3.5" yeah and Dark Souls 1 is Demons Souls 1.5, you really should be calling elden ring Demons Souls 5
and i'm all for it.
Interesting
Dark Souls 1 is worse than Demon's Souls though, and DS3 is massively better because of the graphics, speed, bonfire teleporting. DS1 sucks ass.
You thought you cooked
@@themelancholiaL take, opinion rejected
Thank you for being fair about the endgame difficulty (I can see some fanboys saying the game is perfect in case of difficulty which is wrong.)
The fact that a ubisoft dev so openly complains about something completely irrelevant in this game make me so happy cause I can feel how their ass is getting burned.
Keep up the good job manley👌
It's awesome to see so many people calling them out on their pettiness. You have so many people saying any criticism is just heresy and that every thing is intentional while also forgetting that it's a game and nothing's perfect. Thank you!
Yea i had 50 vigor wearing heavy ass armor and was still getting two shot by some enemies. I was pretty salty about that
@@ISIIN15 yeah, max tankiness feels kinda pathetic compared to previous games
@@maudley especially in the late gane
@@ISIIN15 if they nerfed the attack and health of enemies in the haligtree by a third, the game would only improve. They do enough of ramping up the tricks and numbers of enemies, they don't need to make everything feel like NG+3 too. And I shudder to think of actual NG+3 there. Wouldn't basic attacks nearly oneshot you at max tankiness? Not that there's much reason for NG+ in this game anyway...
3:27 That's not entirely true. My only other experience with Fromsoft was that 20-ish minutes of Sekiro I played a few months ago. I came into Elden Ring knowing I was gonna get my ass handed to me. I didn't go online to bitch about it. I went online to look up tips on how to "git gud". 20-ish hours later I'm having a blast! Dying a lot but still, a blast.
I absolutely love elk rink, and I NEVER played a souls game. What I recommend is watching video guides on your first play through if your having a bad time. I hope more new players learn this because it can really help you out in the beginning and soon enough you'll enjoy the game like everyone else, or make the game better than it was for you.
Twitter can find a problem with everything.
It's borderline impressive.
@@ManleyReviews yeah
Glad to see you keep posting, Love your content. Amazing quality, Keep pushing man you'll make it massive one day.
Thanks man.
Exactly this. Discovered you randomly from your Cyberpunk video and immediately subscribed and binge-watched your videos. Your quality is insane!
HELLA appreciate that. One of the OGs .
@@ManleyReviews Thanks for the amazing content 👍
Imagine climbing towers ever 5 min while the characters are yelling at u to go look at a funny looking box.
This was so good! I like how even though you argue against a lot of these hot takes you at least give them some credit when they do make an actual valid point. Personally Elden Ring has become my new favorite game of all time, it not only met my expectations, it exceeded them in almost every way. It isn't a perfect game like with the absence of a quest log which I do think would be helpful for the side quests or as an optional feature, but the few faults it does have I feel are just outweighed by everything it does right. It feels like such a breath of fresh air when it comes to how its designed. You just earned a new subscriber!
I’m really happy that you can alter bindings, I’ve altered them to what some people consider cursed
X is light, heavy is Y
Interact is bumper and item is trigger
It’s halped my combat and just made using items not need me to remove my fingers
i found swapping my crouch and lock on button helped a lot too.
odd thing about quest logs is that many people don't really like them.
>spam talk at npc
>accept quest
>go into questlog
>log tells you to kill boss X in zone Y at area Z
>do the thing
>win
in games with quest logs i tend to just not give a shit about what the npc has to say, since i'll just get better info in the log.
in elden ring i actually have to listen to what an npc says, as if im actually talkin to the npc.
maybe instead of a quest log that just tells you where to go, you can have a journal so you can read the last thing Ranni said to you while you were imagining holding hands with her.
Ubisoft be like " this game isn't unplayable dogshit, I want my money back"
Always glad to see another video from you! Unfortunately, my PC has reached the cutoff point of what it can run, so I can't actually play ER, but it's great to see people are enjoying it. If I ever upgrade, it's going straight on my To Play list.
it's a tough game to run no doubt. worth every upgrade though.
Haven't seen you in awhile buddy. So glad your views have skyrocketed. Keep up the quality and hard work. You will continue to be rewarded.
thanks rob, just trying to grind out more content!
Although I am a complete beginner when it comes to the soul's games, I absolutely enjoyed getting my ass kicked for the first 20-30 hours, just getting destroyed by bosses and then exploring and learning the way the game and mechanics works made defeating bosses so much more rewarding.
That's the bread & butter of souls games. Should definitely give their other works a shot if you like it. Both Bloodborne & Sekiro are different in terms of combat, but follow that same structure.
@@bbbbbbb51no not sekiro rn, proly get ur hand into Ds3 and bloodborne bfr sekiro or have the most painful time of ur life. Sekiro leaves less room for error compared to both of the other games. But the fights are fucking pure magic, this is what weebs and movies think their stuff looks like, shit is beautiful
10:00 that caught me so off guard I burst out laughing.
i remember seeing the little statue gargoyle dudes in the catacombs and saw they had the same moves as the thralls from dark souls 3 and I literally said "oh thats cool, it fits the character and now i know how the enemy works from memory and can deal with them better"
I bought elden ring cause of all the hype and praise around it, but I just wasn’t my thing. It was my first souls-like game ever, and I think that contributed to why I couldn’t get into it. I understand why people liked it, though
elden ring is beautiful game. Sadly I'm not capable enough to play it. To the people who actually completed the game... respect
I like the horse mount decision. You can equip it to your regular equip slots instead of the pouch to use it like (presumably) your ESTUS flask. Personally I put my crimson/cerulean gamer tears in my pouch since directional inputs while chuggin' aren't super consequential. The horse ring then becomes a choice for the player- do you add it to quick equips, put it on your pouch, or leave it in your inventory like some kind of savage? Plus this is a nifty and immersive way to customize your controls, since consumable equips are essentially an option screen to place them on various hotkeys.
Clicked so fast to watch, seriously the most slept on youtube channel. The quality of production and the content is honestly better than a lot of million sub channels😂. Hoping 2022 is the year you blow up so more people can appreciate this amazing content
thank you.
The only two parts of the game that took away from the experience for me was: enemies being reused, and those same enemies having way more health and damage. The freaking Storm Knights already ahd some killer moves, now they do twice as much damage with 3 times the health. God why, no.
I spit laughed at the claw grip gang sign joke lol
I don't usually comment on video's but I've been subscribed to your content for a while, they are fairly well made and entertaining videos.
Sometimes I just put it in the background and listen along while working on various things.
While other times i just go through a list of videos while just relaxing and unwinding.
As others have mentioned glad you're keeping it up dude, hopefully your channel will blow up someday! (In terms of views and subscribers of course haha)
Seriously the highest praise. I appreciate that more than you imagine.
I find the archaic english they used immersive, and fits the setting well. I also remember everyone's name that i met on my 40hrs playtime, you dont need quest logs, you need to use your cognitive map or just google it.
This is why we cant have immersive rpgs, and the dialogues are jarring because the npcs uses modern english in a medieval type setting. Perhaps try to learn more.
Trust me when i say i LOVE the archaic language. The NPC dialogue even in DS1 and DeS just felt so eerie and off it's what made the characters seem so interesting. It is in NO way a complaint.
I agree, I love the DS language. But unfortunately when you have one brain cell and it’s focused on killing things to hit the happy button in your brain, it can be kinda hard to decipher if you dont like to read and really grasp whats being said.
I rember playing adventure games when I was little that practically required a notebook to keep track of everything. I feel like i would have done better with elden ring quests if i had kept actual notes instead of mental ones. A game that expects me to engage with it rather than spoonfeeding me everything? Wild.
That's great and all but problem comes up if you'd have to stop playing for a while and come back now the 7 or 8 NPC's you talked to are gone to somewhere that you have no idea of because it's been a while since you played the game. Now its basically forcing you to Google where they are which is a bad game design. Even just a dialogue log can solve this.
My main issue with the ER quests weren't that there wasn't a quest log, since i always had like a little notebook that i wrote all the stuff in i had to remember. This was one of my favorite parts about it, and it was really emersive. What isn't emersive is having to look up online where to go next to progress a quest line cause the npcs just keep disappearing without telling you where to find them next, and the next time you see them they are dead cause you didn't give them their rowa rainsins in time or some sh*t like that. Idk just add some cheesy dialogue like "i will be waiting at this exact location btw but dont kill that dude first before you visit me"
I’m a strange camp where I can appreciate the game being a masterpiece but being new to the souls franchise and not having an abundant amount of time to play it, I haven’t played it much because there is a steep learning curve to the nuances in levelling up, weapon levelling, etc. and i think it’s what holds a lot of people back… although admittedly I mainly just bought Elden Ring to stress test my new gaming laptop with ultra graphic settings on. It’s noice 👌🏼
Very fair. it's a game you really need to mentally invest into and it's hard if you only play small amounts at a time. Totally get it.
Same with me, maybe an hour a day. But after about 15 hours it became much easier.
JUst take it slowly man you can do it. You could also try the other games first to get used to the style of fighting. Everyone gets their ass beat and are lost at first. I started with Demon's Souls back in 09 and believe me everyone feels the same way at first regardless of which game you start with.
This is my first souls-like game, and Elden Ring is a perfect game. I thought everyone else had this opinion, but I guess not.
it's the most perfect unperfect game and that's A OK in my book.
@@ManleyReviews I agree with you on the controls. Especially as a first time player they were hard to get used to. But once they became muscle memory, the game picked up pace so quickly and I felt like a real gamer lol
Seeing the controller problems, it's kinda comical how I saw so many people say it should be only played on a controller, while I had an easy time on keyboard.
Its so funny when people complain about bad controls in a game WHERE YOU CAN LITERALLY REBIND THEM HOWEVER YOU SEE FIT
oh that's cool!
Back in the 4th grade, certain children in class pretended to like a baked dinner of meat & vegetables because it made them feel more mature and sophisticated than the kids who said pizza or McDonalds.
Deep down we all knew they lived off cookie dough......but yeah this weird atmosphere around Elden Ring reminds me of that.
Very... interesting.
It’s almost the same as saying something is “an acquired taste” to sound sophisticated when really what you are eating tastes horrible and only becomes palatable after forcing yourself to eat it so many times you get used to the acrid taste.
on having a quest log, i think that they should have a journal in which you the player can write in, so you can keep notes on what these characters want you to do.
That's actually awesome idea
I haven’t played a single souls game in my life, instead of complaining I learned from my mistakes and put limits on myself. Elden Ring is an amazing game and my only complaint is the map not being bigger, because this shit is FUN.
The controls is probably my only real criticism, I die all the time trying to do certain things in the middle of combat. I also wouldn't mind more in depth questing system, not like a check off list with waypoints but just actual definable quests.
Try using something where you can type the seemingly important stuff NPC's say, most quests can be followed by just hearing the dialogue and going to the place they said or you just finding them along the way when exploring.
NPC's in the souls series talk directly to the character not the player that's why they usually don't tell you where they are going or what they are doing becouse you have your things to do and they their own, even with that said it would be really nice to have a ingame notebook to write stuff instead of having to use a physical notebook or a digital one, they already added a system to mark on the map NPC's that you talked to so they could do it at some point.
Na, I disagree, I don't have quest shit in real life. I love that I'm totally lost, that I found them my mere causality or because I builded a huge detective case behind my favorite NPC (or I just google lol)
For the controller problem I have one thing to say.
Keyboard
before I'm attacked I know some people find control better or don't have a key board.
I'm pretty sure I played Dark Souls for the first time after recently playing Skyrim and Dead Space for the first time. It obviously took a little bit to get used to all the information that isn't told out right, but basic functions operate no more complicated than the inventory in Skyrim, and the difficulty isn't far off from Dead Space. Plenty of casul people have played both of those, they should be ready for dark souls.
jsut feels a tad unnecessary at this point. I get old souls not existing long enough to know these things could use tinkering... and tbh i don't even care. i just hate to see people pass on this AMAZING franchise because of sour first impressions.
Holy shit this review was needed.
I do agree that the biggest flaws are the controls, which are a bit overloaded and would’ve been much better if there was more freedom to customize button input. There have been multiple times when I just wished “damn I wish I could’ve set my sprint and jump button separately” and other thoughts, and I found it kind of frustrating when I didn’t have that option.
The difficulty spike after the… ‘first half’ of the game (Leyndell) could have been toned down just a little bit, or maybe gave players better ways to deal with taking damage. I think the devs wanted the player to actually use all the game mechanics (throwing consumables, stealth mechanics, status affects, etc) and their focus in the later areas to force them to ‘engage fully’ with the gameplay, but what I think this actually does is discourage build variety, which is pretty exhausting, to be honest.
And also, I think if we had a ‘dialogue journal’ to record what the NPCs said, that would have made the side quests much more enjoyable, considering this is a vast open world game and lots of people don’t have photographic memory to remember what a ‘friendly dude dressed in armor’ said to them 12 hours prior when the entire game is about killing ‘dudes dressed in armor’
And IF ONLY the other game devs had explained these criticisms in a clearer way other than throwing fancy game developing terms in everyone’s faces, I think they wouldn’t have faced a lot of backlash.
Elden Ring is still 10/10 though. Thank you so much for making this much needed review. You earned a subscriber.
Funnily enough, throughout the entire segment I was sitting there as a keyboard player - you know, the thing controller players say is oh so horrid to use for souls games - and was quite content having faced NONE of these problems. At most I had to take my hand away from my mouse for a moment to press and arrow key, which wasn't any trouble since I could still move.
My controller has two extra buttons on the handle part so my middle fingers became responsible for jumping and dodging which honestly did make things a bit easier for me.
You could buy a notebook and keep track yourself, but thats a hefty amount of work just to remember Sellen vaguely mentioned a fake wall somewhere near Sellia.
@@primisto7530 I switched my left and right weapon slots to the buttons 1 and 2. Scroll up for spells and scroll down for consumables. Made it a lot more convenient.
I didn’t know people move their left thumb off the stick. I always moved my right over the right stick so I can keep looking around and hit the d pad quickly.
Elden ring wins next question
Haven't watched it yet but thank you for making such great and entertaining videos as always.
Haha trust bro it's a good one
Elden Ring was my first fromsoft game. I died to Margit 80 times and it only made me more determined to win. The sheer dopamine that was released in my body from killing Margit was among top 10 moments of my life (not very interesting life atm, but we thug it out). In terms of gaming I’d say I’m pretty competitive though. So my drive to keep on improving was at the max.
I now have 100% on Elden Ring and Sekiro and I’m currently playing through Dark Soul 1 remastered and I’m going to finish the series.
I just want to say that even though I hadn’t played any souls game until 2022, even I knew about how important dodge rolling was from the impact it’s had on social media that I see.
02:30 legendary troll ahead
this video turned me from a twitter goblin to a strong elden lord, Thank you Manley... VERY COOL! (also awesome editing as always handsome)
Thanks hunny.
You get to endgame
Your offensive stats capped, your weapons maxed out
You get oneshot
I think that's a very clear hint on what you should do...
You get your deffensive stats up
I rerolled them while making the video just happened to use the screengrab while editing. still think it's a little bogus, although fine for NG+
What a hidden gem of a channel. Thanks for the upload homie took 10mins out of my work day 👍
thanks for taking a chance on a newer channel dog.
2:59
Thats why you pick wretch everytime
Godly stat distribution
SEVENTY SEVEN THOUSAND SUBSCRIBERS?! With that production value I was almost SURE you're one of those 1.x million subs channels that have been popping up lately in my recommended that I'd never heard of before; props for your work man, great shit
I honestly didn't find it too difficult. Even if it's my first soulslike game, I found myself challenged, but not overwhelmed.
The difficulty is one thing. It's the abrupt spike in difficulty that I see as problematic. Maliketh and Malenia are ridiculous. That being said I haven't played the patches yet.
@@zac5011 they're simply ment to be that way as end game bosses, and malenia is not even mandatory if u don't feel confortable dealing with her
@@ianlopes2880 I am well aware. And keep in mind, I was able to beat them with a pretty poor build. I still think they were too abrupt of a spike in difficulty.
I don't mind reusing bosses but the thing that drives me up a wall is "Remember that kind of hard boss? *Well here's 2 or 3 of them at the same time!"*
That's just pure filler and annoying
no
Well it makes you think more and it also balances spirit summons
@@Monolitus7
Fixing a problem with another problem isn't a fix, muh dude.
While everyone else was enjoying the game after launch, the haters shit talked the game to abyss. Literally before most people had completed the game the steam reviews were overwelmingly negative but as soon as everyone completed the game with 100+ hours it went to overwhelmingly positive in a heart beat
I think this video raises an interesting topic of discussion. You mention that new players will go online and have their experience tainted by others complaining about the game and I find this usually happens to me, i’ll keep up with videos or threads about games i’m invested in and I’ve found it tarnishes my playthrough experience because i’ll have perspectives and information about the game that I wouldn’t have had prior. I have deliberately avoided all content, spoilers, videos, guides etc. for elden ring, and I have to say it is one of the most refreshing, exhilarating games I have played because I’m going in completely blind. I think hype trains and the rumour mill for games is so vast that it can genuinely erase any opportunity to truly experience a game as it’s intended. I can understand wanting help if a game has you stumped, but there’s so much that can sully how you enjoy a game, especially when playing it for the first time. What are your thoughts on how content on a trending game affects a player’s views/experience?
EXACTLY. SOO many voices are bouncing around what is admittedly a challenging game to digest, leading to just crazy takes in every corner of opinion.
I take this approach with most video games. If I see something I might be interested in I mostly ignore everything other than trailers and gameplay reveals. in my experience going into a game blind with no prior knowledge or opinions lets you enjoy it a lot more for what it is rather than what you or other people WANT it to be. Since doing this I rarely regret purchases. The game that opened my eyes to this was Outer Wilds. Saw it on gamepass, had no idea what it was, played it and it become my favorite game of all time. If I were to watch anything about that game I would have been robbed of the full experience because it's designed around your own curiosity, everything is a spoiler.
Level vigor tarnished
Up to 60
Imagine a certain quest in the journal suddenly got updated by doing another quest
The end game content could probably do with a bit of rebalancing but the softcaps for leveling are much higher in this game to the point where I do think the devs intended on you leveling your vigor up to 60 by the endgame as that's when the softcap starts
yeah. I just hate leveling vigor the veteran souls player in me winces every time i put points in health instead of MOAR STRENGTH.
@@ManleyReviews ah, a fellow unga bunga bonk enjoyer.
No kill like overkill. Omega Bonk.
@@ManleyReviews Unequip radagon soreseals then... it increases the damage you take haha!
Twinblade main here but let me tell you, Axes in this game are obscenely awesome!
The difficulty of Elden Ring made completing it meaningful. I can legitimately see why more casual gamers cannot learn it. Its unforgiving and relentless but it can be learned and conquered with effort, skill, and thinking. Some bosses might even require changing your entire favorite build. I have never seen a game not explain anything and pull it off as a benefit. It encourages players to explore the open world and grow from a tiny nooblet naked wretch into a fully armored magic infused duel greatsword wielding master.
Elden ring is easy though
I got so used to the claw grips that I didn't realize how stupid it was that I even had to do the things you mentioned at 7:00. I can do it, and it doesn't interrupt combat for me, but looking back it definitely doesn't seem like good controller design. It can be argued that when you are trying to do something like riding your horse or drink a heal, you should find a safe time in battle to preform that task anyway, and the alternative is to scroll through the item bar (the item bar is SO much worse), but if the horse or heals were an ability rather than a conventional item that would probably be better.
elden ring is my first ever from software game ive ever played and i absolutely loved every ounce of enjoyment i got out of it, there were only a couple of bosses that i got fed up with and made me want to stop (im looking at you godskin duo) but other than that i only broke one controller 10/10 would play for another 150 hrs