CONTESTS ARE FIXED - MIKE MENTZER VS ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER - GOLDEN ERA RIVALRY MOTIVATION
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- CONTESTS ARE FIXED - MIKE MENTZER VS ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER - GOLDEN ERA RIVALRY MOTIVATION
In this video you can watch golden era rivalry motivation. Here, you're watching the 1980 Mr. Olympia rivalry between Mike Mentzer vs Arnold Schwarzenegger. And Mike Mentzer complain that IFBB contests are fixed.
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Mike got the last laugh when he took Dorian Yates under his wing. He helped Dorian become Mr Olympia and proved that the heavy duty principles work.
Mike Mentzer lost to himself, he would never beat the champion.
@@oDnju Blah blah blah
@@oDnjuWeider made sure of that.
Dorian only met Mike twice and was weighing 275lbs at the time and Dorian has said although they shared similar training philosophy he felt to win the Olympia he did six working sets for each body part whereas Mike only did 1 or 2 Working sets …. He said at no time was Mike his trainer and both Mike and Dorian used the training philosophy of Arthur jones the original creator of HIT
Stop the glazing
" There is a lot of politics and when i call it politics, i mean corruption..." wisest words ever
Grew up loving arnold but Mike Mentzer was the man for standing up to the bully
he didn't drop the trophy!! like a gentleman he accepted it then PLACED it on the floor and like a professional he graciously left.
❤ for Heavy duty "Mentzer"
Ifbb has always been a joke ,the public finally got exposed to this over the years.
Politics may sometimes play a role in sports, but not all the time
@@HulktubeMotivation When there's large sums of money at stake - EVERY TIME.
Arnold taught us the stength of networking over hardwork.
yep sure did
So you’re saying he didn’t work hard?
@@im_ericgarciahe was on roids didn’t work as hard as mike he was a bully
Im sure he had people do favors for the judges!
The true winner was MIKE MENTZER, He may have lost due to politics, But he left us with HEAVY DUTY TRAINING. And HIS LEGACY. And ifbb can never do anything about THAT.
Mike mentzer was greater than arnold i met him at the nabba mr universe and he was great to talk to his legacy will live on.
How many movies Mentzer make? Case closed
@@yeahsure9759first off... No one looks up to Arnold as an actor. Never. Ever. 😂 And now and for awhile Arnold's ways in lifting have been known and most just see him as the physique. Mikes was better, but due to the politics ...he was pushed out of people's minds... But now his actual philosophy and ways of lifting are being looked at... Arnold, yes is rich and rich. Horrible actor. Horrible politician, and yea....
@@yeahsure9759 How people did Mike rape, grope and perform pedophilia? Case closed
Apparently, Arnold's late entrance into the 1980 Mr was outside the rules also.
I have been a devotee of Arnold and his training philosophy. Now that I've got that out of the way, I believe his best showings were '72,'74, and '75. In 1980, he looked like a shadow of himself. He was in Hollywood shape, but not competition shape. He wasn't ready. He allegedly trained for eight weeks for the contest. This is after a five year retirement. Eight weeks? I don't think so.
He pulled out all the stops, the judges were also good friends of Arnold. I don't recall if he had a had in promotion as well. Let's face it, Mentzer was the best physique that day, not Arnold.
Good point, m
Look what Kevin Lee one did in about 3 months after many many years off..
“Impossible” is a matter of perspective..
methzer had a small frame, protruding gut, narrow clavicles, overdeveloped hips, undeveloped back, small arms with no peak, a flat chest, a fat behind and poor posing. 5th was too good for him.
@MrGlock86 good point, m
@Mantastic-ho3vm good observation, I suppose it also comes down to what genetics nature gives one, in order to stand a chance in becoming a champion, m
Most contest are fixed. Name a sport. If it has to do with money, or gambling.
its all vanity. thank GOD i didnt follow it to their extreme.
arnold is a dirty guy. he also fixed 1981 for franco to win
Facts
With the finest gynecomastia you’ve ever seen. Probably the most obvious set up win in bodybuilding history.
And in ‘76
This had created a stigma in bodybuilding with Joe Weider being fully aware, the judges according to rumors were changed by Weider to favor Arnold , with Weider it was bout the publication sales, and Arnold was the "golden goose", in shape or not !!
@@lobby-3alliance196 That's exactly what John Hansen said happened at the 1972 Mr. Olympia against Sergio Oliva.......... Weider changed out the judges 5, maybe 7 times..........
3:00 - "...GEARING up for this event..."
You beat me to it lol.
Mike Mentzer. Anytime🙇🏻♂️
He was a movie star by then, did you really think anyone was going to earn that title. 🤨
Great video
There were so many other Bodybuilder that were miles ahead of arnold during his competition time....arnie at the height of his BB career... wouldn't even cut the classic physique top 10 nowadays days
Congratulations to Arnold’s mates for placing Arnold in 1st place , you must be really proud of yourselfs. 👏
Maybe Arnold killed Mike and Ray.
look at Tinerino at the 7.26 mark..looked great
Arnold is an ass-creeper and was backed-up by a strong Lobby which made him win and also became Governor later on.
Mentzer was the real hero and left the HEAVY DUTY behind, wich is a treasure..
RIP Mike!!
Mike Mentzer looked the best symmetrical body he looked incredible. And I can say I'm using his techniques and I can see incredible growth from working out once every 7-10 days. I'm blown away from the difference
Post physique to prove your claim. Otherwise you're either lying or are delusional.
@brycecampbell4845
Day 9 is Amazing. Thats when you know its real..
@@ForceOfLife999 Real sh!t. Hit does not work.
I'm following Mike Mentzer's Heavy Duty program for about 8 months now and I lost 15lbs of fat getting into 15%-16% bf and my physique looks amazing. I'm not sure how to post my photo here though.
@bbreon75 Congrats on that. I've been eating plant based for a while now.. and coupling that with mentzer's philosophy on intensity, training to muscle failure, and recovery have opened my eyes on to what true physical (and mental) growth can look like.
Arnold was soft 1980 - everyone else on stage looks tremendous.
Mike Mentzer lost to himself, he would never beat the champion.
@@oDnjuArnold lost his family because he couldn't keep his snake in his pants. All because he all about himself. He's guilty of doing horrific acts. He has no human dignity whatsoever
@@oDnjuhow so? Elaborate
Did you see that lineup of bodybuilders, that has to be the best lineup of all-time.💯
if any judges are still living, they should be interviewed and see what they have to say about that day of competition
Absolutely! Interviewing the judges who were present during the competition would provide valuable insights into their perspectives on that day's events.
They need to interview the criminal promoter, and Arnold's former, illegal business partner, Paul Graham as well
That'd be like asking a police union if a cop did anything wrong.
that would be very interesting!!
Arnold today should be interviewed on this!
R.I.P. to Mike he was a legend hands down
I'm not a big Arnold fan. In the body building world it's all about politics. Plain and simple. Sergio Oliva found that out the hard way as well.
11:41 again frame by frame watch n judge..
This contest and 1973 Mr. O Contest.. who ever had a better footage must have dug gold!
Arnold was given the title to help promote his upcoming Conan movie. Joe Weider’s decision
absolutely
Mentzer should've won the 1980 Mr. OLYMPIA hands down.
He was 5th lol. Dickerson Zane boyler all looked better.
@@aaronperez6379Nope
There needs to be a federation as big as the Ifbb to give competitors a choice.
It's like saying there needs to be two world cups and fifa has to have competition.
There is NABBA remember Joe Wieder entered the Nabba Mr Universe but never won it.
Im currently working on making that happen brotha, stay tuned
Noticed the 2018 Arnold classic too, the favorite was given hundreds of a second off to drop the stone.
Compared to other competitors which waited about 2 seconds to hold
Mentzer had the better physique.
Both worked they just didn't get on. Steroids helped plus they trained on top of using. Mike died an addict Arnie had heart problems. Both looked great Both paid a price Arnie still with us. Both huge in the sport.
Nothing to do with bodybuilding... but in 2013, i only trained 4 weeks prior to a 21 km race. My first one in 25 years. And i completed it! Most people would have been out of breath after the first 10 km.
Its not like he wasnt already still huge during the conan filming.
Honestly Arnold was more of a bully than a champion!! if there is any chance of him loosing he will ensure the opponents are misdirected or manupulated before hand...MIKE MENTZER & KAI GREENE are peoples champions!!!❤
MIKE....
got Arnold to SHIT UP and sit down in a corner. 😂
Whose the shorter guy in the back shot at 1:09 - 1:10? That is insane level of back development in any era let alone that era. Wow!!!
Tom Platz
He means the short black guy. Tom Platz probably had the weakest back among them all@@crownshep
That’s Chris Dickerson
looks like Danny Paddia
Mentzer in the 1980 was better! Am an Arnold fan but that wasn’t his best year?
Arnold was a friend of a judge! He will tell you rhat he took.every advantage!
Mentzer finished in 5th place. if he had placed 2nd I would agree with him.
go back to the boy scouts you have to grow up
@@lavarball3070 ~ What are you saying? Please explain ...
@@tjftor the politics are like that of the boy scouts
@@lavarball3070 ok thank you now I understand what you are saying , take care.
@@tjftor you too take care
❤️
No legs
Mike Menzter no legs
@@oDnju And then you woke up with sawdust everywhere. Lol! Mike could use Arnold's legs to pick his teeth with. Arnold had the worst legs ever from an Olympia (Dumbo Columbo, next in line).
Arnolds Calves were stillk very good tho
@@Trendle222 So? His thighs were long and lanky and resembled pool sticks. Thighs are suppose to be bigger than calves. His were the opposite
Arnold was hands down the best in the 1980.
Mister universe Better all around he won
Arnold Schwarzenfreedom will go down in history as being the maskinator
Was a crime Mentzer didn't win this one. Arnold's upper legs and chest presented no where near show ready
You can complain all you want but it will not get overturned.
I wouldn't be surprised if Don King was there greasing the judges and Joe Wieder so Arnold would win.
5 hours Day training way to mutch
Really irritating how you show Mike's younger brother Ray at different points when you are talking about Mike.
Nothing has changed. Just look at last year's Olympia.
mentzer got ROBBED
Mike was right and Arnold couldn't live with that.
Arnold was MR .Olympia he can enter that contest with out notice! The other men especially Mike had to beat him on stage! Arnold beat them in the pump up room , he got inside mikes head and the rest speak for it self
His psychological warfare worked😅
Mentzer had much better approach to training but he could never match Arnolds genetics.
His classy wife took the kids & never looked back . He will die alone
Sitting down in a confrontation is the ultimate flex.
more like the ultimate pu$$y move
Nothing like he is in his movies. What a wimp! Angry Kal Skalak confronted Wimpnegger at Gold's Gym and bumped Stupidnegger, got Arnuuuld got scared and he left! Lol! So typical
@@lateralus2199I never heard this story. Please elaborate.
007
@@007stopjockin Kal didn't like the way Weider was treating some of the bodybuilders (as he was making promises that he didn't keep. Him and Joe actually got into a physical confrontation over some photos that Kal didn't approve of. Lawyers were called upon in which Kal won the case and received the award). Kal then with numerous bodybuilders were trying to create a union to protect bodybuilders. Kal was one of the leaders of this union. Joe Weider was approached by the union members. Arnold was also on board then changed his mind at the last minute, jumped ship and pissed off Kal to the point that a fight almost broke out between them. Kal bumped Arnold with his shoulder, and Arnold left the scene like a wimp that he is
So far...... in most youtube videos I've seen, whenever Mike Mentzer is spoken of they show his Brother, Ray too.
They're not Twins, so what's tge mixup?
If Arnold only trained 6weeks if he had 6months then he would have been victorious on all accounts. I’m not sided him just stating that he did look pretty dame good for hat short time but Mike looked in peak shape.
Mike Mentzer, Boyer Cole, and especially Sergio Olivia were all robbed Aronald should've won MAYBE 2 or 3 Olympia's NOT 6 yeah he was joes golden boy!
Yes yes, all this is true, we heard from voices, we heaed from voices.
🤣🤣🤣
Mike.. calm down
Hope everyone in the comments has an awesome 🙌 day 👌
you too mate
@@HulktubeMotivation thank you 🙏
Omg this is so scary...
We all know if was fixed in 80 & 81
Mike won plane & simple. Politics.
Mike Mentzer lost to himself, he would never beat the champion.
Arnold has accomplished so many great things but I do believe him to be a very difficult person.
So are most of the best athletes in the world in every sport. Michael jordan wasn't particularly the nicest guy. Worked out great for him.
If menzer was cheated out of first place, why did he come in third. Arnold had the presence and stage experience that put him in first place
Can someone name the whole line up they all looked incredible left to right
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Mr._Olympia
Arnold knew he didn't have it that year
Mike is right 😊😊
Arnold no full overall package that day and it showed.
I've heard, on the grape vine, Arnie wrecked shoulders all over the world with the "Arnie Press"
Arnold knew how affect his opponents minds
So Mike Menzer's perfect 300 score was fixed too. Ok.
I think Arnold winning had lot to do with his pose and how he made himself looks like he is in better shape and size by way how he pose on each different pose
Unfortunately, bodybuilding is a subjective sport. Judges are human and can be influenced like any of us. Arnolds height (Mentzer was only 5'8"), winning history, and other attributes probably played a role as well as Joe Weider. Arnold wasn't above using politics to his advantage. That said, he's still the GOAT and did a lot to popularize the sport imo.
Arnold's boy toy best friend Franco Columbu won 2 Olympia's.. and he was only 5'5"..!
It's totally rigged.
@@Thunderpussy1234 Daaamn dude,simmer down ! Wha'd Franco ever do to you¡?😂
Good point, but Franco never won against Arnold. If it was totally rigged, I don't blame the competitors. It would have been Joe Weider. I guess I'm not sure where the line is between heavily influenced and totally fixed. 🤔
PAUL GRAHAM the promoter of the contest was Arnold's very good friend and frequent houseguest for many years...
arnold the professional bullshitter
But he is still alive and training 🤔😁
Mentzer is a piece of crap. Not worthy of an opponent for Arnold.
Barely alive. Almost died in the mid 90's because all of the drugs and PEDS he was consuming when he was competing. Just got fitted for a pacemaker a few days ago. Nice going, Arnie
@@lateralus2199Yup, not to mention the heart operation he had a while ago. Seems like his heart is giving out, and dude is trying to advertise a healthy living by just doing light weights and cardio to extend the life of his heart.
@@LuciaGTAVI665 Exactly! Several heart surgeries. Can't eat meat as well (doctors told him to stop consuming meat) and is on a crusade against predacious consumption. Supporter of The World Economic Forum where they approve of eating insects over eating meats. Let's not forget Arnie's cigar smoking practices.
Training 5 hours a day Arnold ?
Yup he told so in an interview, He loved to over train
@@HulktubeMotivation but training at least 5 x a week what could you train for 5 hours a day unless it includes stretching, eating , massage
@@bigcatz74 I heard him say the gym was like a party. He would take longer rest periods, goof around with the guys and just have a good time between sets.
Both Jerry Brainum and Dave Draper said Arnold did not train 5 hours a day as claimed but most of the time it was more like 1.5 hours more or less
Marathon Arnold sometimes trained 3 hours a day twice a day in which he mentioned this in his stupid book, "Education of a bodybuilder" and other sources in Muscle Builder and other magazines
Less we not forget that Adolf (Arnold) was also given privileges early on because his father was a Nazi officer during WW2. Adolf's father, in reality, was given the nickname of The Terminator.
In the world of bodybuilding the one name always comes first and that is the king of bodybuilding world.Arnold Schwarzenegger alwaysssss.forever the best.who Mike mentzer nobody knows that short Lilliput
Arnold knew no failures. He's a machine.
Mike came in 5th not second.
Robbed of nothing.
Yep. Many better BB’s were better than others.
Vegeta...
Give me your power!!!!
Giants in the 80s. Best time ever
You can clearly see mike say... "Bullsht"
Yet the next year Franco won with gyno and a bad bicep! Go figure
No legs also. 🍗
In a contest promoted by his best friend. How convenient
Almost everyone was better than Mentzer. Somehow he tied for 4th which was a huge gift. They gave him 5th because you can't have two 4th place finishers.
If Arnold really get back his form in 8 weeks, then that should be the prime example for Mike mentzer HIT program.
Thats pretty much called snitching.
Damn,this world is evil. Arnold did such wow.
13:16 oh hes defo been on the sniff
Joe Weider System And Bodybuilding 80's Forever.
love 70's n 80's
Mike really knew what he was doing thats why he died much to young wake up people.
Also people forget, Arnold never really promoted his personal training system. Even in his encyclopedia for training it kind of followed the weider principles. If your old enough like me and started training 40+ years ago you remember. Nice video but it far far from the truth
Corruption in sports....no never lol.
Arnold 5hrs a day hahahaha please lmao
Honestly Boter Coe won