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No joke! Love his content. I've been asleep at the wheel for months now, no motivation. 😂 SOMEONE PLEASE MOTIVATE ME!! Had to check in on Bromley, see what I've been missin. Then a badass, bodybuilding, history video calls my name 😁
@@-I-Use-Punctuation Motivation is for lost people that doesn't have discipline, just do it bro, if you have trouble do it gradually : Day 1 make your bad, Day Make you bag and open the door, Day 3 make your bag, open the door and go take the road 1 minutes and so on and so on, Discipline is a Muscle trust in you I know this so bad my parents destroyed me back then. We have no limits, only the one we think of.
@@AlexanderBromleywatched the whole thing and will continue to do so 🙏 you've been my best source for programming what i need for my body type, appreciate you and the work you put in
Ronnie Colman surgery wasn't botched. He decided to do what his doctor told him not too. Where he went back to lift super heavy before his healing period was over and fucked up his fusion and the screws came out
I got a Joe weider bench from Sears when I was a kid I had to pull down machine thing and a leg extension that was useless the pool down thing connected to the leg extension and it was tied up with pretty much shoestring that came with it. The bar started bending at about 140 lb and it would pinch your hands when you try to rack it. Joe weider was a piece of work.
Thank you for sharing both the Myo-reps technique and Effective Reps model - just to clarify, I originally came up with the Effective Reps model as a foundation for Myo-reps back in 2005-2006, whereas Chris Beardsley came up with the Stimulating Reps model about 7 years later. I think it’s difficult to quantify precisely how stimulating or effective a rep is, that’s my point. I don’t think it’s just a simple math equation where 1+1=2 - many variables are involved: proximity to failure, load and % of 1RM, overall volume (so the reps in the 5th set is less stimulating and more fatiguing than the 1st set), and then also rest periods, (probably) fiber type makeup and muscle group, exercise selection (stability, single- vs multi-joint, resistance curve, how recovered you are going into the workout (so residual fatigue from not only previous workouts, but also life stressors) and probably many more I’m forgetting atm. So the slope of the effective reps curve will be different, where 3 sets of 4 reps isn’t necessarily less effective than 3 sets of 5 reps at your 6RM, or even 10,9,8 reps at your 10RM etc etc. It’s a model that helps us explain why seemingly divergent training philosophies can provide the same approximate results. One such relevant example is the high vs low volume debates where someone might be doing 3 warm-up sets then 2 sets to failure, someone else is doing 8 submaximal sets only approaching 0-1RIR on the last set. From a "high vs. low" volume perspective people can argue to death about the superiority of one vs the other, when physiologically - they’re probably very close to each other. I’m a big fan of individualising volume, start low and see if you achieve progressive overload - add volume if and when you get stuck, or if you want to see if you get faster gains from it...but allow at least 3-4 weeks to determine that (and account for life stressors, sleep, nutrition or any variable that might affect your numbers). Great video!
Apologies! I spent a weekend diving into that and I started with Chris because I had heard his name passed around the most. In hindsight, I had heard both terms but mistakenly thought they were interchangeable. While I have you, would you mind giving me the cliff notes on the difference between the models? Did Chris just rebrand your work or is there something fundamentally different?
@@AlexanderBromley Chris came up with his model years after I did, and based on some different data from what he told me - but they are quite similar. I guess the main difference is that Chris’ model states that the final 5 reps of a set are the stimulating reps, so kind of a "hard" break point - whereas I’ve always looked at it as a slope - so at heavier loads (80-85%+) most, if not all reps are "effective" whereas at lighter loads, it’s more of a gradual slope where the final 3-5 reps are the most effective and it’s probably ineffective to do e.g. several sets of 10 reps with your 20RM unless you also use short rest periods (but then the 20RM load will gradually end up being your 10RM load after sets 4-5 or so).
This was honestly one of the best videos I have seen from you and seeing the history and repeating themes really helps me get rid of any skepticism I have for a number of different workout concepts. Very well structured, did not get too technical for me to overthink things, especially only being about 2 years into weight training. So much gets over complicated with the whole "optimal" workouts, splits, frequency etc. but you are incredible at helping sift through the bullshit and fluff, especially with the key takeaways at the end. Great editing too! Keep up the great work and thanks for all the advice you have given over the videos I have watched! 😁
This is insane. Fascinating material and perfectly presented. I think this may be one of your best videos yet. I'm not really into bodybuilding, so the fact that this engaged me throughout is a testament to how well done this video is.
LONG FORM CONTENT FOR THE WIN. I'm a super nerd so this was awesome. I will definitely be watching this several times, there's so much great information. Thanks again, Bromley!
Phenomenal summary of pretty much everything bodybuilding. This will become a go-to reference video to send to people when they want to learn about bodybuilding, at least for me
The fact that you made this masterpiece 1 video when you could have stretched it out over several episodes for views give you so much credibility in my opinion. Thank you for everything you do.
First time viewing, havent heard of you before but an hour and 44 minutes of sheer lifting history with research backed methods gets a new subscriber ALL DAY over here broski!
Volume is tricky. I've never been able to make very high volumes work for me. And that was when I wasn't working manual labor. Recovery demands are so high for me now I'm basically lifting full body 2x per week like I'm old or something, with fairly low volumes. Interestingly, when I overdo it on volume, the issues I have aren't local to muscles or connective tissues, they're hormonal and neurochemical.
Yup sounds like you train close to failure or to failure itself. High volume is a waist of time and energy for me. High or even moderate volume at high intensity is pointless imo. If going to failure, one set is all that's needed, anymore is just creating more recovery with no more growth. Iv tried all volumes. Low volume with high intensity is the only thing that makes sense after trying it ALL
@@ruckerbrady8342 Basically, yeah. I've played with RPE/RIR in the past, but that was with very specialized programming. I found it let me bring my big lifts up a bit without having to gain weight, so probably the benefits were largely neuromuscular in nature. I've given training with more traditional bodybuilding principles (hit muscles with different exercises, short rests, get the big pumps) and I felt like crap and saw no performance increases (actually significant decreases). Shearing away a lot of that stuff has been seeing my strength come back in spades. I haven't been deadlifting or squatting for more than one really hard work set and it leaves me sore the next day. Overhead and bench this happens too, but not as sore. Why do I need all this extra shit if the bare bones is getting a stimulus going?
I seriously doubt, without sound evidence, that you’d be able to discern whether those issues are leading to hormonal and neurochemical but hey maybe you have a system laid out
What an absolute class video Alexander, complete gem. Funnily enough was listening to this on my headphones and after it finished, I was walking past Georg Hackenschmidt's resting place as I live nearby and thought i'd thank him in spirit, the first real gym bro ❤
Amazing work with this dude! I love that you’re not afraid to make these in depth long form videos in a day and age where people have no attention spans.
What a great video👍👍👍 One can only imagine the endless hours of work you put into this project. I would love a similar video like this done on strongman training. Greetings from 🇩🇪
Ive started doing this, 2 set's of weighted pullups ss with db ohp, incline db ss with db row, 1 set of ring pushup ss with ring chins, 2 sets of squats ss with hamstring curl, 2 sets of seated curl and lying triceps extension ss with side and rear laterals, finished off with a ab static hold to failure to finish off. Done in 40 - 50 mins with 3 minutes rest between sets is this similar to yours 🤔
@@danielmillward9947for these exercises, just assume I’m doing 1-2 sets. Reason is, it may be hard to reach failure in the first set, but I’m definitely reaching failure on the second set if I only rest a few seconds and go again almost immediately. And also, I do very slow reps so I don’t need much weight to continue seeing muscle and strength gains. On Monday I do bodyweight dips, 20 Lb dumbbell tricep extensions, 20 Lb static holds for the side delts. Wednesday I do bodyweight pull-ups, 35 Lb dumbbell rows for back, 35 Lb dumbbell shrugs for traps, 20 Lb dumbbell bicep and hammer curls, 20 Lb dumbbell forearm curls. Friday I do a timed static contraction on a wall sit, you could call it overcoming isometrics taken to failure same thing basically. You basically do a wall sit and plant your feet into the ground while slowly trying to push up against the wall as if you were trying to leg press the ground. I hit calves the same way, and then I do leg tucks for abdominals on the floor, basically bring your knees in towards your chest and bring your legs back out fully extended outward. This works and it works because you can really fatigue the muscle with super slow reps.
This video was extremely well put together and I thank you, Bromley, for being the breath of fresh air the fitness industry needs. You, along with Mike Israetel, are the pioneers of shifting the focus off of materialistic, narcissistic content like 'full day of eating videos' and other tropes done for sensationalism in favour of high-end education to make us simply better lifters. Awesome stuff.
I think Mike 'giving up' after losing to Arnie is more complex than you've let on here. Arnie showed up in pretty terrible form (relative to Olympia standards of course) and stole the win from much worthier participants, Mike included, which lead to a lot people thinking the judging was rigged to give Arnie 1st. I think Mike was flawed in the sense that he let his bitterness overcome him and rule his existence, but in my opinion his ire towards Arnie was completely justified. You've juxtaposed Arnie's accomplishments to Mike's here, but I think a lot of the former's success came down to his natural charisma versus Mike's more obsessive personality. That doesn't make Mike lesser, Arnie was just poised to succeed in that era due to his strengths. I think that specific Olympia, on the assumption it was rigged (which I believe it certainly was) shows the self entitlement Arnie had, which probably also helped him prosper post bodybuilding. I'm not trying to disrespect his accomplishments, I just think it's unfair to dwell on Mike's character flaws without mentioning Arnie's.
An absolutely fantastic video. I would happily say the best I’ve seen in a few years. Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to produce such an informative and engaging piece of work.
Really enjoying your work here. It's very interesting and pragmatic. One thing regarding Mentzer that springs to my mind is that highly talented and intellectually "gifted" individuals often have these psychological struggles. It has to do with achievement, self image, motivation...etc. But basically they often succeed early with less "effort" and setbacks create rupture in their self-esteem/image. There's quite a bit of academic literature surrounding it. Which is really worth some research and reading if a person is interested in ideas of failure and success and what those terms engender. So much weight is put into very high standards of "success" that we get indoctrinated into. So few people reach these standards and that, I think, for what it's worth is a good thing to investigate. If you're trying. ❤ ✌️
Exceptional work brotha. Thank you for this well researched and extremely detailed piece to educate. Not only on the history of our sport that any individual (at any level) interested in fitness should know, but also learn from based in their goals from the practice,results, and mistakes of the greats going back to the singularity of our sport(s).
Superb video! For my money, Bromley’s Cruising Altitude of Volume is the best recipe, two reps from failure, twice a week. Every once in a while, the weight jumps a little, and so a little becomes a lot over time. Watching this amazing video, it strikes me that impatience is a problem if you’re an amateur, but a source of innovation if you’re a pro. Im no pro, so patience, and just remembering to enjoy it, have been my best allies. And Bromley.
Epic! Well done! I've been a "lurker" but now I'm going to sub. Great info. At 49 years old high-rep very high intensity with 6-days rest between big body parts and 2-3 between little parts seems to be the ticket.
1:16:40 when you talk about ronnie's workouts, i'm sure i've seen him in an interview saying 45 minutes of weight training everyday to look like him, I think it was on a late night talk show or something in the 90s or early 00s perhaps
This year of lifting has been an interesting learning curve. I have grown to value effort and have really pay attention to it, and what that means for every lift that I do. I used to work sets and reps and percentage as a primary base until probably about May. Now that I really know what I can lift now, which is done primarily for strength gain, I am able to gauge effort much better. I've lifted in a meandering way from 2013-2020 and more a powerlifting/powerbuilding methodology since 2020. I look back at my strength training from about 2013-22 and firmly say that I wasn't able to firmly grade or gauge effort accurately. Figuring it out has been really, really been a help.
Too many people to mention throughout history! Though culturally a pioneer, I don't believe Jack was ever a competitive bodybuilder (could be wrong, but didn't find mention of it).
@@AlexanderBromley yeah i dont think he was. He did a lot to get people in the gym and lifting weights though. And according to wikipedia he invented leg extension machines, cable pulldown machines, all sorts of standard gym equipment we use now, but never patented it. Dont really know how true it is though i only read it on wikipedia
The program you showed with Arnold was his pre olympia program to get shredded. I belive he focused on more compound movements with only 4-5 training days
For some reason I sit and enjoy one hour or more of explanations about different topic on lifting, exercise and training methods here on this channel but I can't focus when I watch any other video about training from any other channel.... Great videos Mr Bromley highly educational thank you.....
I absolutely loved this! Such amazing history of bodybuilding and strongman over the years and this was presented brilliantly. Would love more movies like this :D
i always had this weird gut feeling that mike mentzer was "king of the losers". attracted an army of losers who felt smarter than everyone else yet gave up at anything they ever did at a drop of a dime
honestly. a lot of ayn rand fans i've met have sort of been this way. that isn't to attack her ideological positions, it's just interesting how snark and loserdom seem to be correlated
Very amazing content, as always. I've seen some of the most intelligent advice on this channel among any youtube channels I've seen even outside strength training - & that's saying a lot because most of the stuff I follow is maths, physics, & comuter science. At this point, I resonate very much with Steve Reeves's approach of enjoying the lifts in moderation. After 3 injuries & increased LDL Cholesterol due to high animal protein, I've just shifted to 6 times workout 4 days a week from friday to monday each ~17 minutes per session. Pull-ups+Dips, Single-leg squats, Forward/Reverse plank, & Kickboxing for some enjoyable high intensity cardio.
Mentzer is like a vegan strongman, making 97 percent of their gains eating plenty of meat. Then goes vegan for 6 months and claims that is where all the strength comes from.
It’s just amino acids. You can get plenty of those from plants. I made all of my gains vegan (17-23 years old). There is nothing magically ineffective about vegan diets. I agree with the overarching point, the analogy just doesn’t work.
@@nicksmith4244 then why aren't there more vegan strongman? I don't think Mitch Hooper or the Stoltman brothers are eating buckets of Kale and getting plenty of AA to win. Where are you getting creatine from plants? It's hard to get enough Creatine from a carnivore diet that is why everyone supplements.
@@mattTHEEgreat because veganism isn’t popular enough anywhere in the world to contribute a substantial sample to any given sport. Additionally, meat is assumed to be a necessary component of strength based endeavors, culturally dissuading those of the plant based persuasion. People only benefit in terms of muscle protein synthesis up to around .8 grams per pound of lean body mass. And those benefits are relatively marginal. I’m not saying it’s advantageous for strength based sports, just that it’s adequate. The only challenge I can see would be with bodybuilders during a prolonged cut, because they’d basically have to only eat tofu and protein powder to get to single digit body fat while eating enough protein to prevent muscle decay in such a large defecit.
@@mattTHEEgreat you supplement creatine. Don’t be reactionary, you’d have to consume pounds of red meat each day to get enough creative naturally. This appeal to naturalism is a silly argument. Nothing about strongman is “natural” if you catch my drift. Nothing about modern life is natural. Cars aren’t natural, vaccines aren’t natural, modern medicine is not natural, yet we use them. You don’t even need to supplement b12 as a vegan if we are being technical because nutritional yeast contains it to my knowledge, but I’d suggest anyone who is to supplement for convenience and as an insurance policy.
@@mattTHEEgreat I’m not trying to be overly critical, I just don’t like people perpetuating the myth that vegans are sickly anemic stick people when that isn’t necessarily the case. I agree with the assertion that heavy duty / high intensity training doesn’t contribute a great enough workload to promote reasonable progress for most people.
You implying as if there aren’t high volume fanatics as much as there are HIT fanatics is blatantly dishonest bromley,I don’t know if you like to fanboy over Arnold or is this an objective opinion but acting as if the “ high volume “ cult represents everyone else is ridiculous.
Your assessment of Mike Mentzer's motives is wrong. You misinterpreted his intentions. His choice to quit was not a matter of not finishing something he started. Mentzer quit Bodybuilding because he saw how corrupt that Industry is.
Beginning my fitness journey (again for the 3rd time in my life). Threw out all of my old narratives. Just spending a lot of time researching and learning slowly. This video was awesome. Thanks!
Really enjoyed the video! I've been binging bodybuilding content after starting to get serious with the gym this past April and this was great, very informative and interesting. Alot of the takeaways were things I had gathered through other sources and watching training of the best coaches (like Hany) and bodybuilders (like CBum and Derek) but having it in one place is going to be fantastic for alot of beginners and intermediates. For my part though I really enjoyed the history lesson of all the pre-Arnold bodybuilders and strongmen that paved the way.
This is genuinely one of, if not the, best workout videos ive ever watched. The way youve been able to summarise all of this is so impressive and valuable. Thank you. I wish an 18 year old or even 30 year old me had have been able to watch this. I feel like ive wasted so much training time.
This is hands down, the most thorough and informative Video regarding bodybuilding I've ever seen!! I'm a long time bodybuilder +30 years. I'm so glad you put this together, currently, there is sooooo much static in the sphere of bodybuilding and fitness with all the social media "influencers" pumping out the click bait at record levels. I feel so defeated sometimes when I'm trying to counter all the bad advice floating around. This is such a brilliant and accurate description of the nuts and bolts and history, I'm really impressed. Thank you \m/
25:54 most perfect "diagram" ever!!! I'm saving that one, cause the main problem i face when trying to explain, is the lacking time/attention of the recipient
Wow! Absolutely amazing video. Truly outstanding. It’s highly insightful and comprehensive. Totally excellent work. Thanks for sharing! The amount of effort you’ve put into this and all the other videos is very commendable. I’m deeply grateful to you for creating such great videos. This video is certainly a well crafted masterpiece. 🙏
This is a great piece of information 👏👏👏. It is not only about history but also about the practicality and effectiveness of different methods and approaches. I wish people around me who train regularly knew English at a decent level so I could share this video with them.
Outstanding work Alexander. Bravo 👏👏👏Not only the content, but also the scripting, the delivery, and the overall storytelling and production. Thank you for your effort, it is much appreciated.
Probably one of the most interesting and informative video I've seen on the topic in my life. Anyone interested in bodybuilding or wanting to make an opinion about it should see this video
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Good video...
Bromley just casually dropping a feature length movie out of nowhere, and I'm here for it.
Facts!
Exept most Movies are useless exept distraction ^^ This is more than great !
No joke! Love his content. I've been asleep at the wheel for months now, no motivation. 😂 SOMEONE PLEASE MOTIVATE ME!! Had to check in on Bromley, see what I've been missin. Then a badass, bodybuilding, history video calls my name 😁
@@-I-Use-Punctuation Motivation is for lost people that doesn't have discipline, just do it bro, if you have trouble do it gradually : Day 1 make your bad, Day Make you bag and open the door, Day 3 make your bag, open the door and go take the road 1 minutes and so on and so on, Discipline is a Muscle trust in you I know this so bad my parents destroyed me back then. We have no limits, only the one we think of.
Even if it doesn’t blow up, you should still consider making more of these. They’re excellent quality.
Going to move to these types of vids as my primary content (though maybe not 100 minutes long lol.
Hardcore history just dropped a seven hour podcast, so, consider it.@@AlexanderBromley
@@AlexanderBromley good call
@@AlexanderBromleywatched the whole thing and will continue to do so 🙏 you've been my best source for programming what i need for my body type, appreciate you and the work you put in
@@daevidpp445i second this.
There's no way in hell I'm going to enjoy this video for free. Thank you for putting this together, and keep up the great work!
I thought it was interesting how timeless Hackenschmidt's advice was given the era he was from. He may be the first real gym bro
There are some gems in his books. They are public domain, so pretty easy to get.
Literally a gym genius
Ronnie Colman surgery wasn't botched. He decided to do what his doctor told him not too. Where he went back to lift super heavy before his healing period was over and fucked up his fusion and the screws came out
Yikes he should've listened
He then finished his set and his only regret was not doing 2 more reps
He’s a fucxkng
idiot he probably be waking now then
I'm sorry were you his doctor mexicanjedi? Speaking hearsay like it's facts..
I got a Joe weider bench from Sears when I was a kid I had to pull down machine thing and a leg extension that was useless the pool down thing connected to the leg extension and it was tied up with pretty much shoestring that came with it. The bar started bending at about 140 lb and it would pinch your hands when you try to rack it. Joe weider was a piece of work.
If my clients could sit still and ignore their phones for 1hr 44mins, I'd make watching this complulsory!
Amazing work, man. Loved it.
2x play speed is a game changer.
@@doesnotexist6524 It is. That's how I watched it.
Really is a game changer; I have my TV app permanently set to 2x and my wife hates it. Can't even edit my own vids unless it's 3.5 lol
It’s so damn hard for me to process info at 2x speed. Slow brain go woah 🤤
@@bestwesterneryeah I can’t keep up lol don’t know what they’re on
Thank you for sharing both the Myo-reps technique and Effective Reps model - just to clarify, I originally came up with the Effective Reps model as a foundation for Myo-reps back in 2005-2006, whereas Chris Beardsley came up with the Stimulating Reps model about 7 years later.
I think it’s difficult to quantify precisely how stimulating or effective a rep is, that’s my point. I don’t think it’s just a simple math equation where 1+1=2 - many variables are involved: proximity to failure, load and % of 1RM, overall volume (so the reps in the 5th set is less stimulating and more fatiguing than the 1st set), and then also rest periods, (probably) fiber type makeup and muscle group, exercise selection (stability, single- vs multi-joint, resistance curve, how recovered you are going into the workout (so residual fatigue from not only previous workouts, but also life stressors) and probably many more I’m forgetting atm.
So the slope of the effective reps curve will be different, where 3 sets of 4 reps isn’t necessarily less effective than 3 sets of 5 reps at your 6RM, or even 10,9,8 reps at your 10RM etc etc.
It’s a model that helps us explain why seemingly divergent training philosophies can provide the same approximate results. One such relevant example is the high vs low volume debates where someone might be doing 3 warm-up sets then 2 sets to failure, someone else is doing 8 submaximal sets only approaching 0-1RIR on the last set. From a "high vs. low" volume perspective people can argue to death about the superiority of one vs the other, when physiologically - they’re probably very close to each other.
I’m a big fan of individualising volume, start low and see if you achieve progressive overload - add volume if and when you get stuck, or if you want to see if you get faster gains from it...but allow at least 3-4 weeks to determine that (and account for life stressors, sleep, nutrition or any variable that might affect your numbers).
Great video!
Apologies! I spent a weekend diving into that and I started with Chris because I had heard his name passed around the most. In hindsight, I had heard both terms but mistakenly thought they were interchangeable.
While I have you, would you mind giving me the cliff notes on the difference between the models? Did Chris just rebrand your work or is there something fundamentally different?
@@AlexanderBromley Chris came up with his model years after I did, and based on some different data from what he told me - but they are quite similar. I guess the main difference is that Chris’ model states that the final 5 reps of a set are the stimulating reps, so kind of a "hard" break point - whereas I’ve always looked at it as a slope - so at heavier loads (80-85%+) most, if not all reps are "effective" whereas at lighter loads, it’s more of a gradual slope where the final 3-5 reps are the most effective and it’s probably ineffective to do e.g. several sets of 10 reps with your 20RM unless you also use short rest periods (but then the 20RM load will gradually end up being your 10RM load after sets 4-5 or so).
@CoachBorgeFagerli thanks for the added information.
This was honestly one of the best videos I have seen from you and seeing the history and repeating themes really helps me get rid of any skepticism I have for a number of different workout concepts. Very well structured, did not get too technical for me to overthink things, especially only being about 2 years into weight training. So much gets over complicated with the whole "optimal" workouts, splits, frequency etc. but you are incredible at helping sift through the bullshit and fluff, especially with the key takeaways at the end. Great editing too! Keep up the great work and thanks for all the advice you have given over the videos I have watched! 😁
Appreciate it man, feedback means the world!
Of course! Gotta help get these type of vids on the good side of the algorithm lmao
This is insane. Fascinating material and perfectly presented. I think this may be one of your best videos yet. I'm not really into bodybuilding, so the fact that this engaged me throughout is a testament to how well done this video is.
LONG FORM CONTENT FOR THE WIN. I'm a super nerd so this was awesome. I will definitely be watching this several times, there's so much great information. Thanks again, Bromley!
My mind is blown. The level of research is astounding. I learned quite a bit from watching this series. Phenomenal work. I watched it all.
Bromley’s channel is a premier resource in training and programming knowledge. This is just adding to it
Phenomenal summary of pretty much everything bodybuilding. This will become a go-to reference video to send to people when they want to learn about bodybuilding, at least for me
Appeciate it my man!
The fact that you made this masterpiece 1 video when you could have stretched it out over several episodes for views give you so much credibility in my opinion. Thank you for everything you do.
that doesnt make any sense but it is ur opinion
Legend for producing this Bromley! 💪
First time viewing, havent heard of you before but an hour and 44 minutes of sheer lifting history with research backed methods gets a new subscriber ALL DAY over here broski!
This channel is criminally underrated ...one of if not the best source of info on UA-cam
Have been lifting for 25ish years and this is the best presentation on strength training I have ever seen.
Volume is tricky. I've never been able to make very high volumes work for me. And that was when I wasn't working manual labor. Recovery demands are so high for me now I'm basically lifting full body 2x per week like I'm old or something, with fairly low volumes. Interestingly, when I overdo it on volume, the issues I have aren't local to muscles or connective tissues, they're hormonal and neurochemical.
Maybe because you actually train HARD. This video seems a bit bias towards volume over HIT..... keep doing what works for you
Yup sounds like you train close to failure or to failure itself. High volume is a waist of time and energy for me. High or even moderate volume at high intensity is pointless imo. If going to failure, one set is all that's needed, anymore is just creating more recovery with no more growth. Iv tried all volumes. Low volume with high intensity is the only thing that makes sense after trying it ALL
@@ruckerbrady8342 Basically, yeah. I've played with RPE/RIR in the past, but that was with very specialized programming. I found it let me bring my big lifts up a bit without having to gain weight, so probably the benefits were largely neuromuscular in nature. I've given training with more traditional bodybuilding principles (hit muscles with different exercises, short rests, get the big pumps) and I felt like crap and saw no performance increases (actually significant decreases). Shearing away a lot of that stuff has been seeing my strength come back in spades. I haven't been deadlifting or squatting for more than one really hard work set and it leaves me sore the next day. Overhead and bench this happens too, but not as sore. Why do I need all this extra shit if the bare bones is getting a stimulus going?
Sounds like you need to sort your sleep and diet out if your not recovering .
I seriously doubt, without sound evidence, that you’d be able to discern whether those issues are leading to hormonal and neurochemical but hey maybe you have a system laid out
Thanks for this.
Simplifying the complex into easily understood concepts is a mark of brilliance.
Amazing job, incredible compilation.
One of THE best videos ive ever seen on the subject. Brilliantly put together 👏
Greatly appreciated!
What an absolute class video Alexander, complete gem. Funnily enough was listening to this on my headphones and after it finished, I was walking past Georg Hackenschmidt's resting place as I live nearby and thought i'd thank him in spirit, the first real gym bro ❤
Amazing work with this dude! I love that you’re not afraid to make these in depth long form videos in a day and age where people have no attention spans.
What a great video👍👍👍 One can only imagine the endless hours of work you put into this project. I would love a similar video like this done on strongman training. Greetings from 🇩🇪
Love HIT bodybuilding. 1-2 sets taken to failure with slow and controlled reps have been allowing me to continue growing at home.
Ive started doing this, 2 set's of weighted pullups ss with db ohp, incline db ss with db row, 1 set of ring pushup ss with ring chins, 2 sets of squats ss with hamstring curl, 2 sets of seated curl and lying triceps extension ss with side and rear laterals, finished off with a ab static hold to failure to finish off. Done in 40 - 50 mins with 3 minutes rest between sets is this similar to yours 🤔
@@danielmillward9947for these exercises, just assume I’m doing 1-2 sets. Reason is, it may be hard to reach failure in the first set, but I’m definitely reaching failure on the second set if I only rest a few seconds and go again almost immediately. And also, I do very slow reps so I don’t need much weight to continue seeing muscle and strength gains. On Monday I do bodyweight dips, 20 Lb dumbbell tricep extensions, 20 Lb static holds for the side delts. Wednesday I do bodyweight pull-ups, 35 Lb dumbbell rows for back, 35 Lb dumbbell shrugs for traps, 20 Lb dumbbell bicep and hammer curls, 20 Lb dumbbell forearm curls. Friday I do a timed static contraction on a wall sit, you could call it overcoming isometrics taken to failure same thing basically. You basically do a wall sit and plant your feet into the ground while slowly trying to push up against the wall as if you were trying to leg press the ground. I hit calves the same way, and then I do leg tucks for abdominals on the floor, basically bring your knees in towards your chest and bring your legs back out fully extended outward. This works and it works because you can really fatigue the muscle with super slow reps.
A banger that I’ve been watching in pieces for like 3 days now. I don’t want it to end
This video was extremely well put together and I thank you, Bromley, for being the breath of fresh air the fitness industry needs. You, along with Mike Israetel, are the pioneers of shifting the focus off of materialistic, narcissistic content like 'full day of eating videos' and other tropes done for sensationalism in favour of high-end education to make us simply better lifters. Awesome stuff.
I think Mike 'giving up' after losing to Arnie is more complex than you've let on here. Arnie showed up in pretty terrible form (relative to Olympia standards of course) and stole the win from much worthier participants, Mike included, which lead to a lot people thinking the judging was rigged to give Arnie 1st. I think Mike was flawed in the sense that he let his bitterness overcome him and rule his existence, but in my opinion his ire towards Arnie was completely justified.
You've juxtaposed Arnie's accomplishments to Mike's here, but I think a lot of the former's success came down to his natural charisma versus Mike's more obsessive personality. That doesn't make Mike lesser, Arnie was just poised to succeed in that era due to his strengths. I think that specific Olympia, on the assumption it was rigged (which I believe it certainly was) shows the self entitlement Arnie had, which probably also helped him prosper post bodybuilding. I'm not trying to disrespect his accomplishments, I just think it's unfair to dwell on Mike's character flaws without mentioning Arnie's.
What an absolutely incredible piece of content. It's a crime against the internet that this video doesn't have 2+ million views.
I got so fascinated with lifting 10 years ago that I went and got a degree in exercise science. Still fascinated to this day.
An absolutely fantastic video. I would happily say the best I’ve seen in a few years. Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to produce such an informative and engaging piece of work.
Really enjoying your work here. It's very interesting and pragmatic. One thing regarding Mentzer that springs to my mind is that highly talented and intellectually "gifted" individuals often have these psychological struggles. It has to do with achievement, self image, motivation...etc. But basically they often succeed early with less "effort" and setbacks create rupture in their self-esteem/image. There's quite a bit of academic literature surrounding it. Which is really worth some research and reading if a person is interested in ideas of failure and success and what those terms engender.
So much weight is put into very high standards of "success" that we get indoctrinated into. So few people reach these standards and that, I think, for what it's worth is a good thing to investigate. If you're trying. ❤ ✌️
Loved it, Bromley!! Really informative and slickly produced.
Exceptional work brotha. Thank you for this well researched and extremely detailed piece to educate. Not only on the history of our sport that any individual (at any level) interested in fitness should know, but also learn from based in their goals from the practice,results, and mistakes of the greats going back to the singularity of our sport(s).
"Why would you choose to be weak?"
Gotta love that.
Great video!
Nice way to look at popular training through the ages
What an impressive documentary, insane quality so much better for watching the entire 1.45hrs
At 35:29 photo on the left is George Eiferman, not John Grimek
Superb video! For my money, Bromley’s Cruising Altitude of Volume is the best recipe, two reps from failure, twice a week. Every once in a while, the weight jumps a little, and so a little becomes a lot over time. Watching this amazing video, it strikes me that impatience is a problem if you’re an amateur, but a source of innovation if you’re a pro. Im no pro, so patience, and just remembering to enjoy it, have been my best allies. And Bromley.
Thanks for the video man this is just awesome I'm not done with it yet but Its amazing work
This is a great overview and critique of the sport. Excellent
Bromley back at it with the fire content as always. Keep it up man, cant wait for this one. 2 whole hours!
This was the best overview on the history of weight training and exploration of methodologies I've ever seen on the net Amazing work 🎉. Thank you
Epic! Well done! I've been a "lurker" but now I'm going to sub.
Great info. At 49 years old high-rep very high intensity with 6-days rest between big body parts and 2-3 between little parts seems to be the ticket.
Thanks!
I was a huge fan of Mentzer's. Your commentary on Mike is spot-on, insightful, and tragically true. He betrayed himself.
1:16:40 when you talk about ronnie's workouts, i'm sure i've seen him in an interview saying 45 minutes of weight training everyday to look like him, I think it was on a late night talk show or something in the 90s or early 00s perhaps
Feels wrong to be this ungodly early
@@CatsOnTrenhaha my bad
This year of lifting has been an interesting learning curve. I have grown to value effort and have really pay attention to it, and what that means for every lift that I do. I used to work sets and reps and percentage as a primary base until probably about May. Now that I really know what I can lift now, which is done primarily for strength gain, I am able to gauge effort much better. I've lifted in a meandering way from 2013-2020 and more a powerlifting/powerbuilding methodology since 2020. I look back at my strength training from about 2013-22 and firmly say that I wasn't able to firmly grade or gauge effort accurately. Figuring it out has been really, really been a help.
My god, nearly 2 hours of bromley goodness... It's fine, bodybuilding training methodology is more important than sleep anyway
But he's skipping Bronze&Silver era folks like John Grimek, starting with the age of PEDs..... My first 👎 on any of his videos......... 😥
It's an hour and 40 minutes long, and it hasn't been an hour and 40 minutes since I posted it.... try watching
@@LatimusChadimusimagine disliking a UA-cam video.
Damn right lol
@@LatimusChadimusits good to skip 60kg natty squirrels
Watched the whole damn thing. Well done Bromley!
Glad you liked it!
Im surprised you never mentioned Jack LaLanne
Too many people to mention throughout history! Though culturally a pioneer, I don't believe Jack was ever a competitive bodybuilder (could be wrong, but didn't find mention of it).
@@AlexanderBromley yeah i dont think he was. He did a lot to get people in the gym and lifting weights though. And according to wikipedia he invented leg extension machines, cable pulldown machines, all sorts of standard gym equipment we use now, but never patented it. Dont really know how true it is though i only read it on wikipedia
Crazy to have this type of content for free! Thank you sir 🙏
This video is going to blow up.
Fingers crossed, lol. This was a lot of minutes to make.
Can't imagine how much work this took to put together. Thanks, my guy, this is a great doc.
Very cool to donate for hard work. You’re a role model
Much appreciated!
The program you showed with Arnold was his pre olympia program to get shredded. I belive he focused on more compound movements with only 4-5 training days
I'd love to see more of his routines throughout the years
For some reason I sit and enjoy one hour or more of explanations about different topic on lifting, exercise and training methods here on this channel but I can't focus when I watch any other video about training from any other channel....
Great videos Mr Bromley highly educational thank you.....
Move over Marvel!
the Value you're providing here is unmatched anywhere. such a dynamic thorough delivery with your personal touch! Thank you sir !
I had doubts about Leroy Colbert being natural but seeing him at 12 I can definitely believe it's possible for him to have 21" arms drug free.
Yep look at steve reeves at 16 or 17, already built like a pro footballer
I absolutely loved this! Such amazing history of bodybuilding and strongman over the years and this was presented brilliantly. Would love more movies like this :D
Mike mentzer for the win! 1 set every 2 weeks! Best scientific approach of all time!
Good one, lol.
Please tell me you're kidding.
Of course numbnuts 😉
@shank me too. But then I tried 1 rep every 2 weeks and somehow I have better results. It’s insane man
You're horribly overtrained.@@therustedshank9995
@Alexanderbromley, this video is fantastic. You did an amazing job, I will be re watching this multiple times over the years.
Bro unleashed a Netflix worthy documentary 💪
I love this "monstrosity"! I plan on watching it again and taking a few notes! It's not a monstrosity at all, but a mass monster of a YT video!
i always had this weird gut feeling that mike mentzer was "king of the losers". attracted an army of losers who felt smarter than everyone else yet gave up at anything they ever did at a drop of a dime
honestly. a lot of ayn rand fans i've met have sort of been this way. that isn't to attack her ideological positions, it's just interesting how snark and loserdom seem to be correlated
@@Charles-pf7zyGo ahead and tell me how much you love Brandon
@@JoshuaKevinPerrywho?
Mike doesn't really look like a "king of the losers" to me lol. His rhetoric for as controversial as it is, seems fairly smart.
Lmfao
Very amazing content, as always. I've seen some of the most intelligent advice on this channel among any youtube channels I've seen even outside strength training - & that's saying a lot because most of the stuff I follow is maths, physics, & comuter science.
At this point, I resonate very much with Steve Reeves's approach of enjoying the lifts in moderation. After 3 injuries & increased LDL Cholesterol due to high animal protein, I've just shifted to 6 times workout 4 days a week from friday to monday each ~17 minutes per session. Pull-ups+Dips, Single-leg squats, Forward/Reverse plank, & Kickboxing for some enjoyable high intensity cardio.
Mentzer is like a vegan strongman, making 97 percent of their gains eating plenty of meat. Then goes vegan for 6 months and claims that is where all the strength comes from.
It’s just amino acids. You can get plenty of those from plants. I made all of my gains vegan (17-23 years old). There is nothing magically ineffective about vegan diets.
I agree with the overarching point, the analogy just doesn’t work.
@@nicksmith4244 then why aren't there more vegan strongman? I don't think Mitch Hooper or the Stoltman brothers are eating buckets of Kale and getting plenty of AA to win. Where are you getting creatine from plants? It's hard to get enough Creatine from a carnivore diet that is why everyone supplements.
@@mattTHEEgreat because veganism isn’t popular enough anywhere in the world to contribute a substantial sample to any given sport. Additionally, meat is assumed to be a necessary component of strength based endeavors, culturally dissuading those of the plant based persuasion.
People only benefit in terms of muscle protein synthesis up to around .8 grams per pound of lean body mass. And those benefits are relatively marginal.
I’m not saying it’s advantageous for strength based sports, just that it’s adequate. The only challenge I can see would be with bodybuilders during a prolonged cut, because they’d basically have to only eat tofu and protein powder to get to single digit body fat while eating enough protein to prevent muscle decay in such a large defecit.
@@mattTHEEgreat you supplement creatine. Don’t be reactionary, you’d have to consume pounds of red meat each day to get enough creative naturally.
This appeal to naturalism is a silly argument. Nothing about strongman is “natural” if you catch my drift. Nothing about modern life is natural. Cars aren’t natural, vaccines aren’t natural, modern medicine is not natural, yet we use them.
You don’t even need to supplement b12 as a vegan if we are being technical because nutritional yeast contains it to my knowledge, but I’d suggest anyone who is to supplement for convenience and as an insurance policy.
@@mattTHEEgreat I’m not trying to be overly critical, I just don’t like people perpetuating the myth that vegans are sickly anemic stick people when that isn’t necessarily the case.
I agree with the assertion that heavy duty / high intensity training doesn’t contribute a great enough workload to promote reasonable progress for most people.
History, theory, photos, production, narrative, presented flawlessly. Thx Bromely, that one was loaded.
You implying as if there aren’t high volume fanatics as much as there are HIT fanatics is blatantly dishonest bromley,I don’t know if you like to fanboy over Arnold or is this an objective opinion but acting as if the “ high volume “ cult represents everyone else is ridiculous.
@ 35:29 min ...That is George Eiferman on the left, not John Grimek!
Your assessment of Mike Mentzer's motives is wrong.
You misinterpreted his intentions.
His choice to quit was not a matter of not finishing something he started.
Mentzer quit Bodybuilding because he saw how corrupt that Industry is.
And he stopped working out because?
Mentzer has a semi cult like following. His propensity for philosophy presents his ideas as more meaningful than they really are.
@@ralf-5 Because of a shoulder injury.
I confused how someone could get into a professional sport and not expect it to be corrupt
Look at the side by side pic of Mentzer and Arnold. Arnold actually did beat him, Arnold was right - Mentzer's belly looked too big.
I love the long form stuff. This is one of the most brilliant breakdowns of lifting I've seen. Keep it coming!!
Thank you for putting all this together truly gave me a history lesson
Beginning my fitness journey (again for the 3rd time in my life). Threw out all of my old narratives. Just spending a lot of time researching and learning slowly. This video was awesome. Thanks!
this is a great video, love history and bodybuilding, and nerding on overthinking training principles
Unnecessarily granular analysis is what I do best.
Damn! Hats off to the work that went into this. Smart. Informative. And professionally produced. Nearly 2 hours flew by.
Thanks.
Been goin thru some bromley content withdrawal lately so this has come at just the right time 👌
Really enjoyed the video! I've been binging bodybuilding content after starting to get serious with the gym this past April and this was great, very informative and interesting. Alot of the takeaways were things I had gathered through other sources and watching training of the best coaches (like Hany) and bodybuilders (like CBum and Derek) but having it in one place is going to be fantastic for alot of beginners and intermediates. For my part though I really enjoyed the history lesson of all the pre-Arnold bodybuilders and strongmen that paved the way.
This is genuinely one of, if not the, best workout videos ive ever watched.
The way youve been able to summarise all of this is so impressive and valuable. Thank you.
I wish an 18 year old or even 30 year old me had have been able to watch this. I feel like ive wasted so much training time.
Fantastic! Favourite ‘fitness’ channel right now for sure!
Interesting video. Informative. Reg Park was from Leeds, England. Moving to South Africa later in life.
This is hands down, the most thorough and informative Video regarding bodybuilding I've ever seen!! I'm a long time bodybuilder +30 years. I'm so glad you put this together, currently, there is sooooo much static in the sphere of bodybuilding and fitness with all the social media "influencers" pumping out the click bait at record levels. I feel so defeated sometimes when I'm trying to counter all the bad advice floating around. This is such a brilliant and accurate description of the nuts and bolts and history, I'm really impressed. Thank you \m/
Mate! That was such a good watch. Wholesome, entertaining, and bloody awesome!
Great coverage of the styles and history. And of course "we can only speculate"
This is up there with the best videos I have seen any Fitness Channel produce. I learnt a lot in this one
25:54 most perfect "diagram" ever!!! I'm saving that one, cause the main problem i face when trying to explain, is the lacking time/attention of the recipient
Wow! Absolutely amazing video. Truly outstanding. It’s highly insightful and comprehensive. Totally excellent work. Thanks for sharing! The amount of effort you’ve put into this and all the other videos is very commendable. I’m deeply grateful to you for creating such great videos. This video is certainly a well crafted masterpiece. 🙏
This is a great piece of information 👏👏👏. It is not only about history but also about the practicality and effectiveness of different methods and approaches.
I wish people around me who train regularly knew English at a decent level so I could share this video with them.
Outstanding work Alexander. Bravo 👏👏👏Not only the content, but also the scripting, the delivery, and the overall storytelling and production. Thank you for your effort, it is much appreciated.
This is an excellent documentary/historical overview with real advice and implications.
Thank You.
That was an epic video! Obviously a lot of work to compile and arrange the info. Good stuff. Bromley is such a beauty.
Dude, solid film. Excellent information. Spot on delivery. You're doing awesome work here.
Best believe I'm watching and sharing this one. Your work is needed and appreciated.
Awesome, thank you!
Probably one of the most interesting and informative video I've seen on the topic in my life.
Anyone interested in bodybuilding or wanting to make an opinion about it should see this video
The entire speculation of bodybuilding. This video was excellent!
This is the best video on YT about BodyBuilding that I have ever seen, just a pearl, a masterclass.
This is a classic. Great content.
I just like how you summarize key information so fluently and entertaining