F*ck You! Arnold Loses It In Weider's Office
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- A deleted and extended training scene from Pumping Iron. Enjoy.
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Carlos, you're providing absolute gems with this kind of footage, that I know all of us golden era bodybuilding enthusiasts love.
Keep it up man!
More to come!
@@GoldenEraBookworm Sweet! This should grow your channel like a weed!
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@@GoldenEraBookworm Thanks for your work and what you share with us. Hello from France. :)
Joe Weider sounds like a seasoned corporate attorney.
Weider sold gay porn mags first, and then decided to market and cheat and lie to create his fake Mr O ....
Of course, he had already been sued several times 😂
Joe Weider was also a big queen
Sounds ghay
@@Ruth1T0ne
Definitely.
Major Mysteries of the Universe:
1) are we alone 🛸
2).what happens in a black hole 🕳
3) how the heck did Carlos get this footage 🤔
LoL 😆 😂
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The worst of Vince McMahon + the worst of Don King = Joe Weider
"For every dollar a bodybuilder made, Weider made a thousand." - Danny Padilla
Yea maybe business wise because the worst of them both is very dark lol
They would be nowhere without him
That is the job of a promoter to make way more money than the athlete because without marketing no one care about the athlete.
@@mproductionsmusik and Weider promoted the industry not just the athlete. We didnt have social media and even limited any other form of media then. People tend to blame their leaders
@@marksgoogle4360 Yes exactly, people love to blame the one on top for everything... without Weider there is no bodybuilding at that time. If people are not happy they can create there own promotion compagny like in boxing where boxers sometime create there own compagny to promote them self and make more money.
Arnold ran the ifbb like mentzer said
The fact that Franco 'beat' guys like Tom Platz, Roy Callender, Danny Padilla is even more proof.
For sure. Weider actually ended up being owned by Arnold. You only had to look at the 95 reunion to see how in Awe of Arnold Weider was. He was actually walking with an inferiority complex to Arnold by then.
@@Ve-suvius lol Explain then Mr expert why you think that. Platz didnt have upper body. Padilla couldn't get dry enough. Can't say anything bad about Callender exept Columbo had a more impressive upper body. Columbo had the most impressive upper body in that lineup by far. Nobody was perfect there. So why should Platz supperior legs beat Columbo's supperior upper body? Or Padilla who had a flawless shape but couldn't get dry beat Columbo? Who are you to judge what imperfection beats another imperfection? Are you an IFBB judge? Were you at the show? How many years are you in bodybuilding? You have jurnalists that sat 4th row on that show stating how superior Columbo's upper body was. Not a fan of him btw Columbo wasn't a very nice guy but whats right is right. You people love controversies so much talk about 1997
That's right Arnold was number 1 the best 👌
@@Topmotorcycles9079
The best at buying people.
Yep. As someone who works with corporate and municipalities publishing. The actual BUSINESS of it is never fun.
In the other room, Arnold is speaking with Gene Mozee, a 50/60s Silver-era bodybuilder, prolific bodybuilding writer, magazine editor, and photographer. Thanks to Gene, we enjoy many golden-era photos of all the champs. He deserves his own tribute. Rest in peace Gene.
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Joe Weider in Terminator: Arnold it smells like a dead cat in here.
Arnold: Fuck You!
I wrote that line in a comment section once, in quotes and crediting the Terminator. I was given a warning from YT
Almost correct he said; FY a-hole! 😅
I thought I'd seen all the footage, but then there's new bits
There's always more 😊
Keeps coming out on Arnold's app "The Pump!
Just when I thought I was out they pull me back in.
This is the most extensive, serious and lengthy dialogue I have ever heard from Joe Weider. Very interesting. Arnold’s dialogue and style reminds me of a few scenes from Hercules in New York.
" STOP LAUGHING ! "
Now I want to know who the South Oklahoma All Stars are
Mike Mentzer - “I rest my case”
how? this is 75.
@@shanus11like he said arnold run the ifbb yeah this is 75 the controversial is 81
We are watching a blue print for succeeding at life. No matter what life throws at you. Arnold’s self confidence is off the hook. His charisma is evident. What a gem the footage is.
The difference between Arnold and the rest of the bodybuilding world, is that he developed his mind accordingly with his body!
Mentzer was way more intelligent. Arnold just had cunning.
I’ve never seen bully spelled “cunning”…
True! That's what 99% of people don't know about Arnold. He was very smart and on top of that he kept attending all kinds of classes learning all the time about a lot of things. I found out about these things from two books of his.
@@LuciTulceaThat he wrote...makes himself sound like the best in everything...the fact is that, even though Arnold worked his tush off, the system was rigged in his favor - even with how he managed to get into this country with all kinds of legal problems in Europe that should not have allowed him to leave....
@@bigpoppapump8014 mentzer put a complete bogus or out by only doing one set per group fooling all y’all and Idt anyone who used meth regularly would be considered intelligent
That was incredible! Loved the pre-Olympia discussion at the end.
And this just shows that Arnold controlled Weider.
Arnold was chad, mental and lookswise
Arnolds approach and demeanor are unique. He is the epitome of speak softly and carry a big stick.
I wouldnt put it quite like that.
@@fender1000100 How would you put it?
@@DeusExMachina50
His demeanor was to make the Weiders think they couldn't make it without him. He became their cash cow. The Weiders were two Jewish brothers. Money was a big deal to them. Once Arnold made them think they needed him to keep their bank balances rising. He could get whatever he wanted. Including winning Olympias he or his best friend didn't deserve.
Same as mike Tyson speaks softly, but is a killer
He'd just a typical narcissitic type of behavior
As an young teenager who used to read those 73 through 75 mags, it’s quite interesting to see the behind-the-scenes stuff like this. It reminds once again, just how fortunate Schwarzenegger was to land in the perfect place for himself and his ambitions.
Most of his articles were ghost written, and the author was usually Gene Mozee., as shown in the start of his clip
@@GoldenEraBookworm
I remember Fred Hatfield/dr. Squat saying that even his encyclopedia wasn't written by Arnold. Bill Dobbins or someone like that did. Not sure about the name of the true writer.
@@Ve-suvius Kent Hall was essentially the writer and author of the book.
@@IronWarrior86
I see he did the Education of a Bodybuilder book.
Did he also do the Encyclopedia?
@@Ve-suvius Oh true that. He wrote both books. If i remember reading correctly, he had a background in fitness and nutrition.
My left ear loved this.
Check out the lack of cars on the street - I think I saw one car drive by the whole time.
must be a sunday morning
If I remember this office is in Woodland Hills. The San Fernando Valley wasn’t as busy back in those days
Bro you got ADHD 🤣
@@tipou900actually has great attention to detail
Now is full of mexicansssss
Awesome clip. This was during the pumping iron filming. Big fan of pumping iron and encyclopedia of modern bodybuilding.
9:05 - So I knew Arnold started his prep at around 200 lbs after Stay Hungry. He stepped on stage at around 225lbs, down from his best by 10lbs (according to his book "Education of a Bodybuilder.") What I didn't know is that he first "bulked up" and then proceeded to cut back down again! I was under the impression he only had a couple of months to prepare for the show, so this is a pretty radical procedure to get back into top form!
I think in his best shape (1974) he had around 250 pounds.
In the aforementioned book, he claims he got to a maximum of 245-250 before cutting down. That was written in the 70's of course before he felt the need to boost his stats a little in the face of today's mass monsters.
I don't know where you're getting this footage buddy but keep it up!! Very interesting stuff 👍
I love that you get these clips. Super cool!
Obviously, I've seen the edited version of this clip in "Pumping Iron" and some behind the scenes footage for the 25th Anniversary edition when it was released, but I've never seen the extended version of this specific footage. Admittedly, I don't keep up with the bodybuilding world like I used to, but this was an excellent find! Thanks for posting it! Subscribed. 🔔
Great stuff. Good seeing Joe, Arnold, and Franco together again. Pricless. Thanks!
A lot of this sounds like set up, scripted conversation to hype Lou vs. Arnold.
Another amazing gem. Just in love with this channel.
This was great. It was extremely interesting seeing the interactions between Joe and Arnold. Thank you for posting.
Bro!
This is a great piece!!!!!
Love these off bodybuilding pieces!
Keep em coming!
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This was really cool. It made me feel like I was a fly on the wall listening to the two greatest pioneers in the sport of professional bodybuilding discussing business and strategy. Thanks! I loved it!
the dude has a way of gettin his way, dude this footage is awesome, do you have all the extra footage.... amazing.
Climbing the mountain is one thing and dealing with business is another. Thank you for staying on the footage which gives the viewer the opportunity to see the long hours put into dealing with people who say one thing and do another. The stress and mind games can be exhausting. I’ve boiled it down to I’m good to my word and that’s my and only my responsibility. And if others choose to sell themselves short then that’s their responsibility.
Joe Weider was ruthless, but he built legends like Arnold and changed the world. The whole global fitness obsession and gym culture is because of him. He is the maestro promoter and publisher. He's up there with Walt Disney and Ray Kroc.
You goofy. They gym culture was way before Arnold my guy.😅
Think you are forgetting Instagram
All gods chosen exploiting the goyum for their financial gains
Interesting behind the scenes. Congratulations on reaching 100, 000 subscribers:)
Is Arnold forgetting that he lost to Sergio Oliva in 1969?
He literally said no one has beat me since 1969
Never knew there was reality TV in the 70's!
Franco exudes power. His stride is like that of a purebred pitbull.
Great clip, thx for the post
I worked in that building for eight years in the lat 90's. I filmed a huge amount of that building with all the statues and framed pictures, but it's on a mini-dv tape. Maybe one day I will see if I can get it converted. Anyways, at some point, they put a wall between these two rooms if I remember correctly.
Arnold learnt to speak near perfect English in like 3 years!!!! The man is a genius!
english is ez to learn for german speakers
English is one of the easiest languages to learn
Nice video . Gives you the idea on what was going on behind the scene.!
This looks like filming for Pumping Iron that was cut. I wonder how much footage got cut. It would be interesting to see everything that was filmed for that documentary even if it ended up taking 50 hours to watch it all.
Thats good the guy in charge colluding with arnold about beating lou lol, that game is dead straight😂
CLOUDING
@leelunk8235 😂 yes colluding that's wot I ment, iv changed it. If I'm going to extract the urine out of someone I don't want to look daft😂 that spelling mistake made me look as daft as someone who grovells to his boss😂😂😂
@@user-mi5op4si9b LOL
This is a huge release !
7:57 first time I see Arnold with a expression of anger
he is a horrible person, always been like that... he even bought all old footage outakes rights, where he was saluting to H... and making racist comments. He is a horrible person....
Congratulations Arnold was abused b cluster Bs, and became a narcissist.
@@sleepyjo9340also during Covid when he angrily said “screw your freedom” to the American people. What a meathead.
@@Waldbridg His dad was an actual vindictive nazi, and his mom was an ocd clean freak. God knows what he put his kids through, but seeing as how one of them is overweight, is probably not good.
This must be Spring or Summer of 1975 because the Mr. O was on Nov. 8th.
Funny how Arnold ended up being a company man for the establishment. I guess they got to him since the 1970s...
Weider started with gay porn....
A reliable source told me that Arnold's twin brother taught him that "Money talks and bullsh*t walks".
Meinhardt was older@@marcoj.t.l.3116
hes a sellout. always has been. "screw your freedom"
@@marcoj.t.l.3116
..How does bullsh*t walk?..That's slang right?..
That office must have reeked of protein shake farts.
Back then it was evil egg protein aroma that would get in the vents and clear that whole building, not just the office. 😂
I like to sniff on my dad’s pork sword.
Loooooove this one perfect motivation for hitting the gym :D
Great stuff!
Finally I found some footage in that office! I was in that exact office in July 2015 when the Weider building still had the Lion starues on either side of the entrance doors and the building was up for sale. The building is on a corner lot in Woodland Hills California and I contacted the realtor as though I was interested in purchasing the building and the realtor came out to the property and gave me a tour of the building. It was the summer of 2015 and Joe's office was still intact same floor, same blinds same everything! The bathroom had the 70's wallpaper in it and original everything. I worked for a company on the same side of the street just four doors down. Eventually the lions at the entrance were removed and anything Weider related was removed. The realtor at one point even mentioned Betty by name. It was incredible being in the building and Joe's office with all of the history that took place there. I don't work for the company anymore but I often wonder what happened to the building.
Arnold: Get to the choppppppppppaaaaa
Me after Heavy Deadlifts: Get to the Protein Shakeaaaaaaaaaaa.
I used to work for Joe and Betty Weider out of Woodland Hills at Weider health and fitness. Used to drive Betty in her Cadillac to Angels Camp were she went to school and lived. They were always nice to me.
Columbo was such a great bodybuilder
Awesome stuff
Those were great times
This is one of if not the most interesting and relevant bodybuilding related footage I've ever seen
Pretty cool how Weider saw Ferrigno as a real threat to Arnold. Thanks for posting this
Thanks for the reply . That could well be the case yes 👍🏻
Nice of Ahhhnold to let Joes use his office.
Where is this footage from?
This makes me want to move to California!! Opportunity baby!!! At least back then
What year is it?
His accent makes bodybuilding sound like a sophisticated tasteful sport I love it
I was fortunate enough to have a meeting with Joe in that office. I didn't realize they had been in the same building for so long.
Was this in Woodland Hills ?
@@maxwellbrill8001 Yes.
This is awesome (!) and should have been included in the original movie. They don't make em like Weider anymore........
30 pounds in 2-months….
Just some rice and chicken… and a protein shake here and there..
and Primobolan, Decadurabolin etc
@odessafile75 thank you
Not just
It was Thee Golden Era Indeed when Fitness was on The Championship Level unlike today where people are taking too many short cuts, they don't want to work hard for what they want. That's why you have to go back to the beginning where it all started.
I literally when into the video back to the 70’s and had a look around how the world was back then and came out 😀
where did you get this footage?
Looks a little staged but all the same, Weider knew the earning potential of Arnold.
Thanks I've not seen this
I did not hear Arnold say "F*** you" to Weider. He said it to the person on the phone.
Who said Arnold said it to Weider?
@Nobodyimportant03 If you look at the post photo, it implies Arnold was saying it to Weider.
@@doninbaras No it doesn't. You added that context. He was in weider's office. He said F*** you.... Exactly like the post says. People need to get back to reading what is written and not what they think by adding context
@Nobodyimportant03 Bull. The caption was put there to imply Arnold said it to Weider. It is obvious the purpose was clickbait. You know it.
@@doninbaras Like I said, your added contextual assumption led you down the wrong path. I read the same title and did not think he said it to Weider. Why? Because I read what is said then watch the video. Don't cry when you add context to something then are wrong.
I love these clips. If only arnold would put them all into a pumping iron remake, that would be awesome. I doubt he will though. You should contact arnold and tell him.
I never thought about these guys being involved behind the scenes but guess I should have?
These are outtakes, deleted scenes from a movie.
Nice insight of what happens behind closed doors.
Fascinating…the start of huge things
Damn Franco Columbu looks so powerful.
That is great footage
Awesome great footage
this was the year i was born god time flyes by
Franco looking good.
Man, he looks so powerful.
Looking like Arnold's pitbull
When did Franco ever not look good? Pound for pound one of the strongest bodybuilders ever.
If Franco didn’t destroy his knee at the World’s Strongest Man contest, he could’ve won the 1977, 78 and 79 Olympia’s.
@@39Hundred Yep that is what I always say I'm surprised more people don't mention that.
Some interesting things here. For one, Joe was legitimately worried Lou might beat Arnold. Joe started the Olympia . . . and maybe should be unbiased as to the outcome, but Arnold is one of his contract athletes. It flies in the face of those saying the contest was rigged. In the eight years I was involved, I always felt the placements were accurate. In the late 90's, I asked Joe what his favorite time in bodybuilding was. He paused longer than I thought he would, and then said it was the time Arnold beginning to develop as an icon.
oooo it's like being a fly on the wall
“No.. no… come on Joe…”
Hahaha
Forget about it…
"I won't be back."
*'Screw your freedom'*
🤦♂️
He’ll never live that down. … and he shouldn’t.
For what it’s worth, he did recently apologize for his choice of words.
@@judy9139 He doesn't have to apologize for anything. Those 3 words are too often quoted without context and that's wrong.
@@punxsutawneyphil3944there is no context that makes this statement better. I know the context as does every person I’ve seen comment on it. If the context makes it better for you, especially after all this time with all that has been exposed, than you are a jackass worthy of a master.
I can see why Arnold turned on Robbie and stopped training with him. Joe and others are filling his head like Robbie had a chance to beat him. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but the judges would never allow that.
Robbie was even competing in the Olympia then. He didn’t compete in the O till 77
Wow. Thanks.
Screwed..timeless theme😮
THE LAST OLYMPIA, ARNOLD WAS OUT OF SHAPE AND THE OTHER DUDES GOT ROBBED
Arnold was money, big $$$ in golden era of bodybuilding.
Absolutely love Arnold - he was always confident he just ruled the game. A KING>
The bodybuilders of today don’t have the aesthetic physiques of yesteryear that radiated beauty and magnetism. That’s all I have to say.
When Joe weider sold his empire for more then $350 million dollars (muscle& fitness) he gave nothing back to the business created,when he retired,did you know Joe lent Arnold millions to invest in property back in the 70,s and 80,s ,they were ,Joe,s entire fortune went to Eric the son who owns /runs 19C ART GALLERY IN LA America ,which houses tens on millions is Art work ,from Europe,these people never were into to Publishing for the love of bodybuilding only money ,i can tell you who Arnold is,when his best friend of 54 years passes Franco ,he never attended the funeral,however Arnold was at the funeral of nicki laudas 12 week earlier
Yeah their swej that’s why Arnold is his little lap goyim
Very nice retro documentary about Arnold doing business in his office.
Ballsy
Arnold Is The Best Body Builder Ever if I could look like any Mr.O id look like Arnold he had the best body
Weider decided the winners of his erm those shows.
Gay for pay unfortunately
@@mageguy3 Andrew Tate was right, when you sell out they make you dress up like a girl. and thats exactly what he did in that one movie. Hes a total sell out.
Arnold was not close to the best bodybuilder at all.
@@FormerIFBBJudge he had some great years. No denying that.
Who do you consider being the best? Sergio, Zane by chance?
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