Thanks for watching, and I hope you all enjoyed a return to the world of Lethal Company! Me and my friends have been really enjoying the game again ever since version 50 was pushed to the beta branch, so I hope you like this look into one of the most intriguing elements thus far. Cheers!
I've been playing on a previous version so that my friendgroup's mods will work, so this was a great vid to brush up on what the robots are all about. Mind that the link to Nougat's channel seems to be formatted wrong, though? Could just be on my end, happens sometimes.
Perhaps they built the Old Birds to guard against Blind Dogs, Giants and other creatures that come out at night. But these ended up getting out of control, associating anyone who left the shelters at night as threats.
@@melvinhotdogman6926There are cases that outside monsters spawn very early during the afternoon. And an Old Bird being online during the morning was probably due to the appartaus
I've heared the theory of them being used as a weapon of war against the faction that produced the coilheads. The Old Birds have everything to counteract Coil Heads, according to both of their entries.
Old Birds have audio of babies crying since humans are hardwired to respond to the sound of a human baby's cries. If you didn't know what it was, you would immediately go and investigate to see what was wrong, only to see a 19-foot tall metal giant with the power of the sun for a head staring directly at you. As to why this was used, it's tough to say. It was intentional, but what the reason for doing so is really up to whoever interprets it. It could be used to lure in unsuspecting victims, or it could be used to break soldiers' morale and sanity having to hear a prerecorded sound of a baby crying for days and weeks on end.
Just today since I heard this update and now I have one theory, could there be more mature old birds? I mean if you think about it, The old birds sound like babies, and it seems to be crying because I think it might be scared or something. Maybe there’s a bigger old bird that is like a parent. Probably instead of crying, it will probably just start yelling at you and screaming at you like how an angry parent would if someone were being rude to their children.
@@lordpumpkinhead265 That's assuming they're 100% robotic and not robotic with a biological component. After all, we don't know what's inside those things. Think Daleks from Dr. Who, which were thought to be mechanical lifeforms only to reveal they were essentially super-tanks for another species. Or maybe they're like the Robobrain, Think Tanks, and Cyberdogs from Fallout and that body is actually holding a biological brain preserved by some unknown means. I personally don't agree, I think it's a psy-op feature of the machine, but it is a possibility.
Somebody theorized that the loud noises and bright lights produced by the old birds are meant to counter coil heads, as their entry states that coil heads get stunned when faced with loud noises or bright lights. While it's probably referencing the stun grenade, it's an interesting thought, but old birds are way too big and armed to be a reasonable counter against a coil head.
Considering we don't have any weapons capable of hurting a Coilhead, maybe you need something that size to actually kill one. Or they wanted a solution that could deal with coilheads and just about any other threat at the same time
Old Birds also activate when you take out the apparatus, which shows a radiation warning. In the coilhead bestiary entry, it was explained they have a high level of radiation. Old Birds were likely designed to detect radiation from coilheads.
I like the idea but I think that the old birds turn way too slow to catch coilheads in their lights, but considering they grab, fly, and shoot long ranged rockets. I think they were supposed to stun and transport coils, and if all else fails, blow them back to hell. (They were also both weapons of war)
Someone had also theorized that the loud noises were to overwhelm the target with the noises by attacking with various stimuli (Alarms, babies crying, etc)
13:30 I don’t know if this is pointed out later since I’m commenting this right after this time stamp, but the toy robot wears headphones, further solidifying the theory that it is a family-friendly toy version of the Old Birds, which have giant speakers or “sound cannons.”
I’m so glad you connected the toy robot with the Old Birds, as soon as I saw the giant version I knew the toy HAD to be a replica of an Old Bird. I thought this simply because of the fact that it’s a robot that makes loud noise. When you mentioned they both make eerie sounds that children would make, it clicked and that solidified the theory in my mind. The genuine war machines make crying sounds to psychologically damage the enemy, and the toys make laughing sounds to make them more appealing and less “scary” to their own population. It’s like having a Batman action figure or plushie as a kid here on Earth, you feel “safe” knowing that your protector is out there fighting the good fight. It’s meant to add morale.
19:51 would keep in mind that it is outright told/implied old birds were disassembled and dissected. It is not a stretch to assume old birds due to the sheer terror they caused were remade to protect facilities. Especially since all old birds no matter the tim will activate when a core is pulled from it's plug. Would also mention, ORIGINAL programming, I'm willing to bet that some old birds were reprogramed to enter hostile or uncharted planets. Especially if war was happening. Like war 101 in history is, steal enemy tech. These are robots, robots follow commands to the letter, no matter what. A fully wiped and reprogrammed old bird could exhibit unusual behavior. So I 100% believe old birds hop planets. However whether or not they were meant to, is another thing entirely.
They activate when you remove the core because of the radation which further supports the coil head theory as the old birds are sensitive to radiation which the coil heads produce
@@SunnyBunny148 it says in there info they were made to be weapons of war and the coil heads are presumed biological weapons of war that emit radiation which would explain why they activate when the core stops powering the facily and instead emits radiation
Haha you know what's super funny about that? I wrote that before the Tulip Snakes were added. I was thinking of the Hornets, not the Snakes haha. Oh well
the whole loudspeaker thing along with the spotlights reminds me of the real life military tactic in vietnam called "operation wandering soul". the whole idea was to have choppers, boats, and more with big loudspeakers blaring a recording of a dead VC soldier made to wander the jungle aimlessly, called "ghost tape 10" (the audio of which is uploaded to youtube). the whole point of the operation was to make the VC flee in fear or reveal themselves, and it was supposedly quite effective.
@@smallxplosion9546I like it personally because of how jarring it is as you’d expect some alarm or something from a thing like the old bird and instead it starts wailing and screaming like a baby. I remember on first encounter when I was playing with my bf me and him encountered one and I recall us going from happy and joking around to pure confusion and fear as soon as it chased us and we heard the noises.
If Old Birds are nicknamed "Walking Ransom Notes," that implies the existence of a known location to send some form of payment to get them to leave. If not, the nickname makes zero sense. Looking forward to the update that adds "The Mechanist"
I read it as they were a hodgepodge of parts with no real connection. Old ransom notes were often made with magazine and newspaper clippings so law enforcement couldn't get an idea where the kidnapper lived nor figure out their hand writing.
@@patchmoulton5438 Another way of looking at it. It's stated that the Old Birds were (most likely) made as weapons of war for a war between two opposing civilizations (nations? empires? space classifications are weird) and we don't really know what the cause of the conflict was. It's entirely possible that the ones that supposedly created the Old Birds were seeking some form of recompence from the group that was attacked, making the Old Birds come across as "ransom notes" that were keeping the safety of the population hostage. If any of that makes sense. I'm terrible at explaining things.
I know it just released 5 hours ago but this video definitely better get way more views! This was really well made and the editing really set the scene. Great work!
Calling it now, between the old birds being offensive weapons of war and the torpedo on the side of the company building, everything's shaking up for us to attack the company
Something interesting me and my buddies found out was that, if you go through that hole in 68-Artifice, there is a sand landscape that if you go far enough and see the horizon from where you landed, there is an ENTIRE CITY lined in the horizon. Old facilites, buildings, giant machines, and even after nightfall, no enemies show at all. Nothing. just pure sand with nothing else to see, but the city. Took us the whole day walking through the sand, and nothing happened.
I think that just the background on every moon Edit: not every moon, but when you use a jetpack to fly on top of the company building you can see it very clearly
You know, the info entry for Embrion makes me wonder if Zeekerss' recent comment about wanting to add more interior variety to the game has anything to do with the "vast cave network" mentioned in that entry. A "caves" interior would be a fitting addition.
I also have an idea for another interior, this would be a 1 percent chance on most planets and would be overgrown by some lifeform that would be one being, it would have special traps like moths that consume players, new monsters will be sort of like twisted versions of the fungus, and when it eats a player it takes control of them, all the monsters there are part of a hive mind making them extremely dangerous, there will be some new loot exclusive to this interior in addition to old ones, mostly being specimens from the infestation, one would be the heart of the infestation which functions like an apparatus but once pulled the monsters will know where the heart is and will target it. Theres also a new planet that comes with this called "Infestation" which is entirely overgrown and has nearly a 100 percent chance of the overgrowth interior.
"Living ransom letter" has got me wondering if the anglan Empire captured the enemy militants and trapped them in there. The noises produced by the old birds sounds like screaming from the occupants inside which could be a psychological tactic to dissuade the military from killing them.
I once got a single cookie pan on eclipsed embrion. It’s not much but I’m fucking PROUD of what I got. And yet my friend who stayed on the ship still got called “most profitable”
love the content!! the toy robot correlation is so spooky, i really wonder if there is any more correlations like that in the future. either way, really curious on the lore of lethal company and can't wait for more :D
This was fantastic as your iceberg one!! I love all of this! Thanks to your friends helping and you for covering all of this and yeah I agree with the robot thing, soon as I seen them in game, I thought of those little toy ones. It was one of those moments were your like, "Oh" o_o
9:22 I'm kind of glad they removed the extra bit of detail on the Old Bird from Beta. NGL, for a Space Faring Sci-fi Setting, I doubt 50 of those Old Birds could cause an entire Empire's Downfall, or even a Capital City. Their Armaments while threatening to a Company Player, seem primitive in actual Sci-Fi power-scaling. Like our Current Day Real Life Capital-Class Warships are more Globally threatening than 50 Old Birds. So I think it's okay for Zeekerss to give themselves more time to develop the lore!! Also, one could argue "Mystery" makes them scarier, so I understand why they might've retracted some lore on them. I'm still excited to see how Lethal Company progresses it's story in future updates!
If I recall correctly, weren't the old birds rebuilt or at least reprogrammed at some point? These could be shadows of their former selves, maybe even pale imitations. Plus they wouldn't need take the whole planet or even defeat the whole military. Just roll them in on the government's capital building then massacre everyone inside and boom, massive instability. If I recall correctly the entry said this was the *start* of the empire's downfall. If you wanna defeat an enemy; take out their leadership. The enemy of the empire could've declared war immediately after. Plus you wouldn't need to worry retrieving them. Either have them excucute their mission quickly, then fly off or just set them to self destruct once they've killed their targets. As long as their destroyed enough to where nothing useful can be salvaged you're good.
The opening cutscene probably relates to the evac of Artifice, as it would explain the person sitting at the desk when all of the sudden, an explosion knocks out the lights, and then a bright light fills the room (old bird spotlight)
44-Liquidation and the “Anglen Empire” leads me to believe there will be a water moon that would be dark with anglers who would search the depths of the ocean floor looking for crew members to devour (Ik it sounds stupid)
The problem with a water planet is that the suits crewmembers wear aren't water proof, Zeekerss would have to add some kind of dive suit for that to be possible.
I think Artifice is actually where the Old Birds were manufactured. In the V-50 Trailer, you can see them lined up in a warehouse that looks exactly like the ones on Artifice, and furthermore, the moon description states that active machinery is rumored to have been *left behind*. Another thing from the moon's description to consider would be the numerous 'classified weapons and technology' found on this moon, giving it more credibility that this moon was used for manufacturing cutting-edge weapons of war. Also, Zeekerss does not just choose Moon names out of random, he described them as having a thematic progression when read in order. Artifice is a cunning or deceitful device, which suits the Old Birds well as their origins were directly concealed and they also employ harrowing sounds to confuse their enemies.
To add to the last part as well, the Old Birds could be considered an expedient meaning they are a quick solution to a problem but is immoral and/or improper. This can explain why they seemingly have no failsafes implemented and are still in use when both Anglen and Buemoch are not around but that is speculation on my part.
Im going to say that these robots were war machines. The reason they get left out is because 1. You know once war is over many things are left behind, from soldiers to machines 2. Maintaining those machines AI became dangerous when they went haywire and attack anything that moves
Part of me imagines that the fact the warehouses are large enough to contain the old birds and the trailer features a warehouse full of them makes me feel perhaps some were being stored on Artiface
Honestly, I think that later OLD BIRDs started selling themselves also as moon guards, because if you take out the Apparatus ([generator] sorry if it's misspelled), they ALL activate, which could mean that they go into stalk mode if something happens bad (no power) or if it's late and the owners cannot defend themselves. THX for reading :] Edit: Artifice could have OLD BIRDs that Bunted or enemy OLD BIRDs (There is also a chance that enemy hacked OLD BIRDs that are on ARTIFICE, but other ones still could be security BIRDs)
The link in the description that directs to ChiknNougat's video covering 44-Liquidation starts the video part way through already, just wanted to let you know! It's because there's "&t=72" at the end of the link to the video, so if you get rid of that then the video will play at the beginning. Love your content so much by the way, cheers!
I knew war was a factor in the lore but nothing roped me Into the theories and speculation as much as the old birds have. For starters, as I played the beta branch one of the most heard sound from the old birds I Got was the crying baby. I found that very interesting seeing the Old birds have speakers or sound cannons on their chest and shoulders and high frequency sound waves have been used by police before and I assume has been/plans to be used in war. Hearing a crying baby/injured animal can cause distress and panic with humans, let alone when a 100k lumen light is shining in your eyes while missiles fly at you. I just imagine being a civilian in war and dealing with the voice of an old bird, it would cause you to go mad. Another thing, what I thought would be alert sounds are actually laled as brainwashing is the files.
I think that the reason of removing the info about Anglen and Buemoch from the entries was to make the entry itself focus more on Old Birds themselves, be shorter and to leave a little bit of mystery for the player (even if ut was ruined because of V50 beta).
I thought that Artifice was either the origin or one of many locations housing Old Birds for whoever created them due to the size of the warehouses but your theory makes sense too
9:04 As of current I believe this has been added back in, but the note from sigurd remains no longer there. Also I believe that the old birds act as some form of security system, targeting any and all forms of life. My basis for this is that when you pull the apparatus out of the facility, _every single old bird on the map_ turns on and will actively walk around, as if they’re in a high alert mode. Also, they appear to attack animals too as nearly all the wildlife can be attacked by them, including baboon hawks, eyeless dogs, forest keepers, and even masked.
Here's something I just thought of, what if the dormancy is interrupted by the presence of "personell" affiliated with the company. And the nighttime activation is coincidental and actually a reinforcement that they become suddenly stimulated by their programming detects someone trying to feed "The Beast" Furthermore it could reinforce their dormancy in the first place, as the universe goes barren, it would make sense for them to conserve energy after depleting the area of potential Company
I assume the sounds emitting from the Old Birds are a form of psychological warfare that was used in battle to rattle and stir the minds of enemy troops to cause a decline in morale to gain a strategic advantage.
While people's theories of the old bird's being made to combat coil heads is probably true, I think it's also very possible their sounds were made for psychological warfare
I do actually have some thoughts on this. We know that the coulheads were preshmed to be 'biological weapons' according to their bestiary entry, and so it seems likely that this was either some sort of weapon test or containment conducted by some group, perhaps the company, perhaps not. We also have it on relatively good authority from sigurd that Titan was to go to war around the time of his entries, and in the same sentence, he mentions that his father worked on Titan. Could it be that the character we play as in the scene could be Sigurd's father, and that he may have either been researching or developing the coulheads? Even if not, the possibility that Sigurd'a father is the character in the scene opens up the possibility for all manner of narrative stuff in the future. Perhaps a C-plot that follows him through these cutscenes.
At 14:44 it mentions the boat which was only mentioned in the bunker spider entry. Not sure its significance but i thought it was cool to get something else to do with the boat.
Old Birds seem to be designed to be the most brutal, effective, and efficient weapons of war in the lethal company universe. they try to take everything into account to effectively annihilate their enemies. they have grabbing attacks and fire attacks for close range, missles and flight for long range enemies, impossible armor, no one can hope to escape the old birds unscathed once they are spotted. they even can be seen as weapons of psychological warfare, with their sounds and speakers emitting dubious screams of human agony, likely to induce panic, and employees of the company certainly know of the instant and mortal fear the sounds induce when they are spotted. i have to imagine that when these weapons were created, their inhuman ambitions were met with the annihilation of both their enemies and the creators themselves. this is truly a weapon of total destruction and chaos.
I thought they were built to neutralize the tentacle monster "Jeb" and Contain Jeb In The Walls Then The Old Birds Went Out of Control as They Were Barely Used Anymore.
13:55 these noises in the files are names something along the lines of brainwash_2 or 1 so I think it’s a brainwash signal meant to brain wash enemies in the war of this game
Man, how did you make those cinematic shots? I've been searching for 2weeks and I've found none that could simulate the shaders like in normal POV... WHERE D'YOU GET THAT??!
My theory is that the old birds on the moons could be meant as protection machines that malfunctioned given how they attack other monsters and the strange distorted noises they make.
Since I haven't seen it anybody mentioned, I think that the sounds that the Old Birds use are supposed to be psychological warfare, something akin to what they did in Vietnam possibly.
When comaring Old Birds and Coilhead they both sound like they were made specifically for war. Coilheads are destructive bioweapons given that they contain radiation not to mention they can cause physical harm and have counter measures when it comes to be taken apart. Old Birds by design sound like they spefically target Coil Head weakness through bright lights, loud sounds etc. Old Birds also specfically activitate when they detecte radiation in the area. Something that occurs when you have the aperatus. So they do seem designed to counter nuclear war fair
So, there's paradox talk and that about the whole timeline thing and Sigurd, but, just as a thought, what if after Sigurd dies or whatever, it's other crewmates filling up the bestiary? I mean, the stickynote is right there, so any other previous crews probably looked and went "Oh, this has some useful information, but x is outdated and y has been disproven, and z is now a thing, I should fill out the new info we have, using the existing info for scale and context." I feel like that could make some sense, and allow for stuff as possibly confusing as "Sigurd" knowing about events centuries after he existed, couldn't it?
I think it makes sense that the date was cut out if their first appearance was in 2143, especially if there were notes by Sigurd in there. Sigurd died in 1968, so how could he have seen the old birds if they had their first recorded appearance in 2143? Update: okay, good, you also mentioned this at 11:00. i hadn't gotten that far in the video yet :)
I always thought that artifice was some kind of very secluded manufacturing plant bwcause of the enormous doors on the hangars, which i had thought were for storing old birds.
The sound effects produced by the Old Birds are likely meant as effects intended to disperse, disable or subjugate organic targets. The speakers are weapons. For their alert tracks "Lrad" can be found. IRL LRAD = Long Range Acoustic Device. LRAD essentially projects sound at high intensity over great distances. There are some more peaceful applications of LRAD such as use as a broadcast system or to deter wildlife from certain locations such as airport runways. However, LRAD can (and is very frequently) be used by law enforcement to disperse crowds. LRAD is used for varying military purposes, such as in urban warfare, on ships to deter waterborne assailants or make shipwide broadcasts. The Old Bird has three front facing speakers on it's torso, likely LRAD speakers. Given that Old Birds are dispatched to a planet without an expectation to leave or return to their point of origin it is likely they are dropped in from orbit with no other function than to "clear" the planet surface. I think when facing swathes of well entrenched defenders something like LRAD would be quite scarily effective.
8:50 idk if that's what happened here, but with maneater Zeekers basically admitted that he changed the lore to make it possible for Sigurd (working for the company in iirc 1950s) to encounter and have flavor text for it To quote a situation from the discord: Zeekers: [early bestiary entry to maneater] Other User: But wouldn't he be dead by the time of this document being written? The same thing happened with old birds Just noticed, I was going to reply ping you because I'm disrespectful and love to bother people with stupid questions or something like that but didn't @#1 Zeekerss Zeekers: thanks, i changed it :Janky_Pikachu: reshaped history to keep sigurd in the log.
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Thanks for watching, and I hope you all enjoyed a return to the world of Lethal Company! Me and my friends have been really enjoying the game again ever since version 50 was pushed to the beta branch, so I hope you like this look into one of the most intriguing elements thus far. Cheers!
Excellent video, love the writing and delivery. Keep it up!
I've been playing on a previous version so that my friendgroup's mods will work, so this was a great vid to brush up on what the robots are all about. Mind that the link to Nougat's channel seems to be formatted wrong, though? Could just be on my end, happens sometimes.
@@ForgeMyOwnCompass I'll give the link a look! Thanks for letting me know, also I'm glad you enjoyed the vid!
These things seem to be a fire and forget style weapon just dump a whole lot of them on a planet and wait
Perhaps they built the Old Birds to guard against Blind Dogs, Giants and other creatures that come out at night. But these ended up getting out of control, associating anyone who left the shelters at night as threats.
this one ought to be it
If so then why I found some that are on during the morning started giving me PTSD
@@melvinhotdogman6926There are cases that outside monsters spawn very early during the afternoon. And an Old Bird being online during the morning was probably due to the appartaus
I've heared the theory of them being used as a weapon of war against the faction that produced the coilheads.
The Old Birds have everything to counteract Coil Heads, according to both of their entries.
Why do make noise of a baby crying then
Old Birds have audio of babies crying since humans are hardwired to respond to the sound of a human baby's cries. If you didn't know what it was, you would immediately go and investigate to see what was wrong, only to see a 19-foot tall metal giant with the power of the sun for a head staring directly at you.
As to why this was used, it's tough to say. It was intentional, but what the reason for doing so is really up to whoever interprets it. It could be used to lure in unsuspecting victims, or it could be used to break soldiers' morale and sanity having to hear a prerecorded sound of a baby crying for days and weeks on end.
Just today since I heard this update and now I have one theory, could there be more mature old birds? I mean if you think about it, The old birds sound like babies, and it seems to be crying because I think it might be scared or something. Maybe there’s a bigger old bird that is like a parent.
Probably instead of crying, it will probably just start yelling at you and screaming at you like how an angry parent would if someone were being rude to their children.
@@DrWellRound Old Birds aren't living beings. They're robots.
@@lordpumpkinhead265 That's assuming they're 100% robotic and not robotic with a biological component. After all, we don't know what's inside those things. Think Daleks from Dr. Who, which were thought to be mechanical lifeforms only to reveal they were essentially super-tanks for another species. Or maybe they're like the Robobrain, Think Tanks, and Cyberdogs from Fallout and that body is actually holding a biological brain preserved by some unknown means.
I personally don't agree, I think it's a psy-op feature of the machine, but it is a possibility.
@@Krazykatboy All we know based off of current evidence is that they're robots. Everything else is fan theories and speculation.
That's just straight fucked up man, like holy hell...
"At Nightfall", but it's literally hell by 11:00 AM
Real though 💀
Somebody grabbed the apparatus a bit too early…
@@1bridgeyboo nah, Artifice spawns dogs and giants a lot earlier than other moons
Most likely due to Old Birds existing on Artifice and activating closer to night, so other enemies have to adapt and come out earlier.
One time on adamance, a old bird dropped in on me as like 2pm
Automatons? Sounds like Artifice is in dire need of some democracy.
he good luck. thoes sucker proably made to suvive orbital bombardment
Old birds? Looks like another hulk to me. Nothing a rail cannon or spear can't fix.
Railcannon? Seems like those machines would die for spare change.
@@levfox ULTRAKILL MENTIONED RAHHHH
Anyone requested orbitals?
Somebody theorized that the loud noises and bright lights produced by the old birds are meant to counter coil heads, as their entry states that coil heads get stunned when faced with loud noises or bright lights. While it's probably referencing the stun grenade, it's an interesting thought, but old birds are way too big and armed to be a reasonable counter against a coil head.
Considering we don't have any weapons capable of hurting a Coilhead, maybe you need something that size to actually kill one. Or they wanted a solution that could deal with coilheads and just about any other threat at the same time
Tbh it would make sense that old birds were made to counter most common forms of war, and coil heads were simply one box on the check list.
Old Birds also activate when you take out the apparatus, which shows a radiation warning. In the coilhead bestiary entry, it was explained they have a high level of radiation. Old Birds were likely designed to detect radiation from coilheads.
I like the idea but I think that the old birds turn way too slow to catch coilheads in their lights, but considering they grab, fly, and shoot long ranged rockets. I think they were supposed to stun and transport coils, and if all else fails, blow them back to hell. (They were also both weapons of war)
Someone had also theorized that the loud noises were to overwhelm the target with the noises by attacking with various stimuli (Alarms, babies crying, etc)
13:30
I don’t know if this is pointed out later since I’m commenting this right after this time stamp, but the toy robot wears headphones, further solidifying the theory that it is a family-friendly toy version of the Old Birds, which have giant speakers or “sound cannons.”
That's what I was thinking! I was really hoping somebody else noticed that too, and i'm glad i'm not alone in this thought.
7:29 "the design is very human"
Helps me feel very warm with its modern flamethrower
very easy to use
Let my good friend demonstrate
Still less of a torture device than the stuff in those videos
I’m so glad you connected the toy robot with the Old Birds, as soon as I saw the giant version I knew the toy HAD to be a replica of an Old Bird. I thought this simply because of the fact that it’s a robot that makes loud noise. When you mentioned they both make eerie sounds that children would make, it clicked and that solidified the theory in my mind.
The genuine war machines make crying sounds to psychologically damage the enemy, and the toys make laughing sounds to make them more appealing and less “scary” to their own population.
It’s like having a Batman action figure or plushie as a kid here on Earth, you feel “safe” knowing that your protector is out there fighting the good fight. It’s meant to add morale.
19:51 would keep in mind that it is outright told/implied old birds were disassembled and dissected. It is not a stretch to assume old birds due to the sheer terror they caused were remade to protect facilities. Especially since all old birds no matter the tim will activate when a core is pulled from it's plug.
Would also mention, ORIGINAL programming, I'm willing to bet that some old birds were reprogramed to enter hostile or uncharted planets. Especially if war was happening. Like war 101 in history is, steal enemy tech.
These are robots, robots follow commands to the letter, no matter what. A fully wiped and reprogrammed old bird could exhibit unusual behavior.
So I 100% believe old birds hop planets. However whether or not they were meant to, is another thing entirely.
All good points!
They activate when you remove the core because of the radation which further supports the coil head theory as the old birds are sensitive to radiation which the coil heads produce
@@Tmyeeterydeetery why is it cause of the radiation? Not rhetorical just wanna know.
@@SunnyBunny148 it says in there info they were made to be weapons of war and the coil heads are presumed biological weapons of war that emit radiation which would explain why they activate when the core stops powering the facily and instead emits radiation
How would the old birds react to a player holding a toy robot (when the toy is on)?
This update technically added 4 whole enemies, though mask hornets are similar to the bees.
Haha you know what's super funny about that? I wrote that before the Tulip Snakes were added. I was thinking of the Hornets, not the Snakes haha. Oh well
@@everberon thats fine, the update was broken up oddly and the betas didn’t properly show everything
the whole loudspeaker thing along with the spotlights reminds me of the real life military tactic in vietnam called "operation wandering soul". the whole idea was to have choppers, boats, and more with big loudspeakers blaring a recording of a dead VC soldier made to wander the jungle aimlessly, called "ghost tape 10" (the audio of which is uploaded to youtube). the whole point of the operation was to make the VC flee in fear or reveal themselves, and it was supposedly quite effective.
I only like the old birds for their "WHINY BABY NOISES" going *AAWAWWAAWWAWWRASEWAAWWWWWAA*
Why is that the reason you *_like_* them lol
@@smallxplosion9546I like it personally because of how jarring it is as you’d expect some alarm or something from a thing like the old bird and instead it starts wailing and screaming like a baby. I remember on first encounter when I was playing with my bf me and him encountered one and I recall us going from happy and joking around to pure confusion and fear as soon as it chased us and we heard the noises.
@@gibbster4097 then if they’re babies, shouldn’t they have a parent?
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If Old Birds are nicknamed "Walking Ransom Notes," that implies the existence of a known location to send some form of payment to get them to leave. If not, the nickname makes zero sense. Looking forward to the update that adds "The Mechanist"
I read it as they were a hodgepodge of parts with no real connection. Old ransom notes were often made with magazine and newspaper clippings so law enforcement couldn't get an idea where the kidnapper lived nor figure out their hand writing.
@@patchmoulton5438 Another way of looking at it. It's stated that the Old Birds were (most likely) made as weapons of war for a war between two opposing civilizations (nations? empires? space classifications are weird) and we don't really know what the cause of the conflict was. It's entirely possible that the ones that supposedly created the Old Birds were seeking some form of recompence from the group that was attacked, making the Old Birds come across as "ransom notes" that were keeping the safety of the population hostage.
If any of that makes sense. I'm terrible at explaining things.
Somebody gonna make a sound mod of the old bird "b b b bird bird bird, bird is a word"
I prefer them yelling "ROBOTICS!" more actually.
@@levfox "TECHNOLOGY!"
"crush, kill, destroy, swag"
@@levfox WHY? SCIENCE OF COURSE!
@@levfox ah yes, a fellow mithzan and friends fan. hello how you do? /lh
19:00 that forest giant in the upper right corner is VERY lost.
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I know it just released 5 hours ago but this video definitely better get way more views! This was really well made and the editing really set the scene. Great work!
Thank you for the kind words! I really appreciate that!
Calling it now, between the old birds being offensive weapons of war and the torpedo on the side of the company building, everything's shaking up for us to attack the company
Seeing the Old Birds on fucking Experimentaion terrified me because me and my friends did not read the update and haven't played in months
Yeah same here, watched my friends get demolished on the way back to the ship while I was on camera duty, this was my first time seeing one
Something interesting me and my buddies found out was that, if you go through that hole in 68-Artifice, there is a sand landscape that if you go far enough and see the horizon from where you landed, there is an ENTIRE CITY lined in the horizon. Old facilites, buildings, giant machines, and even after nightfall, no enemies show at all. Nothing. just pure sand with nothing else to see, but the city. Took us the whole day walking through the sand, and nothing happened.
I think that just the background on every moon
Edit: not every moon, but when you use a jetpack to fly on top of the company building you can see it very clearly
That’s on a lot of the moons friend. It’s just a neat little background :D
that just the skybox Zeekerss probably just used the same skybox for a lot of the moons
You know, the info entry for Embrion makes me wonder if Zeekerss' recent comment about wanting to add more interior variety to the game has anything to do with the "vast cave network" mentioned in that entry. A "caves" interior would be a fitting addition.
That's a very interesting thought...
@@everberon maybe we'd get the mineshaft elevator from the announcment trailer as a part of that, if it were to be a thing.
Doesent it say that titan also has caves?
I also have an idea for another interior, this would be a 1 percent chance on most planets and would be overgrown by some lifeform that would be one being, it would have special traps like moths that consume players, new monsters will be sort of like twisted versions of the fungus, and when it eats a player it takes control of them, all the monsters there are part of a hive mind making them extremely dangerous, there will be some new loot exclusive to this interior in addition to old ones, mostly being specimens from the infestation, one would be the heart of the infestation which functions like an apparatus but once pulled the monsters will know where the heart is and will target it.
Theres also a new planet that comes with this called "Infestation" which is entirely overgrown and has nearly a 100 percent chance of the overgrowth interior.
@@mega6076titan was a mining moon so yeah
"Living ransom letter" has got me wondering if the anglan Empire captured the enemy militants and trapped them in there. The noises produced by the old birds sounds like screaming from the occupants inside which could be a psychological tactic to dissuade the military from killing them.
Walking ransom letter.
+ The anglen empire was attacked by these things, it's not stated they used them.
someone in the server thought it was those camera guys and started singing the skibidi toilet theme after seeing them (we left him to die)
deserved
firing squad
Appropriate.
I once got a single cookie pan on eclipsed embrion. It’s not much but I’m fucking PROUD of what I got. And yet my friend who stayed on the ship still got called “most profitable”
Most profitable is such an enigma. It seems like if you pick stuff up in the ship and set it back down, it counts as prifit for that day. Sorta whack
I love watching smaller youtubers they fell more real and genuine than bigger ones
Amen
love the content!! the toy robot correlation is so spooky, i really wonder if there is any more correlations like that in the future. either way, really curious on the lore of lethal company and can't wait for more :D
Thanks man! Glad you liked it!
68-Artifice at night: “watch out for the old birds”
5-Embrion at night: ☠️
What is in embrion
@@luangomes2431 it was covered in the video. Basically it’s a very small map and FULL of old birds who’ll get activated at night with no cover at all
I like how these guys came out right after someone thought of having lightning strike the robot toy, making it huge.
This was fantastic as your iceberg one!! I love all of this! Thanks to your friends helping and you for covering all of this and yeah I agree with the robot thing, soon as I seen them in game, I thought of those little toy ones. It was one of those moments were your like, "Oh" o_o
9:22 I'm kind of glad they removed the extra bit of detail on the Old Bird from Beta. NGL, for a Space Faring Sci-fi Setting, I doubt 50 of those Old Birds could cause an entire Empire's Downfall, or even a Capital City. Their Armaments while threatening to a Company Player, seem primitive in actual Sci-Fi power-scaling. Like our Current Day Real Life Capital-Class Warships are more Globally threatening than 50 Old Birds. So I think it's okay for Zeekerss to give themselves more time to develop the lore!! Also, one could argue "Mystery" makes them scarier, so I understand why they might've retracted some lore on them. I'm still excited to see how Lethal Company progresses it's story in future updates!
That depends. If they are virtually indestructible they can simply gradually exterminate the enemy piece by piece.
Yeah I doubt 50 of em could take down even modern DC
@@teathesilkwing7616 again, if they are indestructible it dosent matter how fast they are killing you, they will still eventually win.
@@MrVlad12340 we don’t know if they are though
If I recall correctly, weren't the old birds rebuilt or at least reprogrammed at some point? These could be shadows of their former selves, maybe even pale imitations. Plus they wouldn't need take the whole planet or even defeat the whole military. Just roll them in on the government's capital building then massacre everyone inside and boom, massive instability. If I recall correctly the entry said this was the *start* of the empire's downfall. If you wanna defeat an enemy; take out their leadership. The enemy of the empire could've declared war immediately after. Plus you wouldn't need to worry retrieving them. Either have them excucute their mission quickly, then fly off or just set them to self destruct once they've killed their targets. As long as their destroyed enough to where nothing useful can be salvaged you're good.
The opening cutscene probably relates to the evac of Artifice, as it would explain the person sitting at the desk when all of the sudden, an explosion knocks out the lights, and then a bright light fills the room (old bird spotlight)
I didnt realize your channel was as small as it is. This is very well made.
Damn man I thought I was watching something with 100’s of thousands of views. I like the way your video was presented. Well done :)
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed!
44-Liquidation and the “Anglen Empire” leads me to believe there will be a water moon that would be dark with anglers who would search the depths of the ocean floor looking for crew members to devour (Ik it sounds stupid)
The entire Idea of Coil-Heads is stupid. Don't sell yourself short lol
The problem with a water planet is that the suits crewmembers wear aren't water proof, Zeekerss would have to add some kind of dive suit for that to be possible.
Isn't that just Sketchy's Contract? That's set on a water planet right?
@@immoralboi3158water planet but just don’t go into the water
I wonder if the toy robots are supposed to be based off of old birds. They have similar designs
thats actually a good thought.. but why would they want to make a toy of a destructive weapon of war?
@@smurferm why would people want to make a toy of an f14 or a toy soldier?
Someone posted on reddit, an idea where toy robots get struck by lightning, and grow to crazy sizes. The v50 beta came out a few days later.
@@smurfermthere are toy tanks, toy bombs, toy guns, toy jets, toy submarines etc irl
It’s also worth noting IMO that the noises the toy robot makes sound somewhat similar to the cries of a baby, much like an old bird.
I think Artifice is actually where the Old Birds were manufactured.
In the V-50 Trailer, you can see them lined up in a warehouse that looks exactly like the ones on Artifice, and furthermore, the moon description states that active machinery is rumored to have been *left behind*. Another thing from the moon's description to consider would be the numerous 'classified weapons and technology' found on this moon, giving it more credibility that this moon was used for manufacturing cutting-edge weapons of war.
Also, Zeekerss does not just choose Moon names out of random, he described them as having a thematic progression when read in order. Artifice is a cunning or deceitful device, which suits the Old Birds well as their origins were directly concealed and they also employ harrowing sounds to confuse their enemies.
To add to the last part as well, the Old Birds could be considered an expedient meaning they are a quick solution to a problem but is immoral and/or improper. This can explain why they seemingly have no failsafes implemented and are still in use when both Anglen and Buemoch are not around but that is speculation on my part.
A heater as always!!!
Just two brothers, dropping new uploads on the same day 🔥
Im going to say that these robots were war machines. The reason they get left out is because
1. You know once war is over many things are left behind, from soldiers to machines
2. Maintaining those machines AI became dangerous when they went haywire and attack anything that moves
Part of me imagines that the fact the warehouses are large enough to contain the old birds and the trailer features a warehouse full of them makes me feel perhaps some were being stored on Artiface
really amazing video! you deserved waay more subs
Thanks for the kind words! Glad you like it
Honestly, I think that later OLD BIRDs started selling themselves also as moon guards, because if you take out the Apparatus ([generator] sorry if it's misspelled), they ALL activate, which could mean that they go into stalk mode if something happens bad (no power) or if it's late and the owners cannot defend themselves. THX for reading :]
Edit: Artifice could have OLD BIRDs that Bunted or enemy OLD BIRDs (There is also a chance that enemy hacked OLD BIRDs that are on ARTIFICE, but other ones still could be security BIRDs)
The link in the description that directs to ChiknNougat's video covering 44-Liquidation starts the video part way through already, just wanted to let you know! It's because there's "&t=72" at the end of the link to the video, so if you get rid of that then the video will play at the beginning. Love your content so much by the way, cheers!
Great video and story telling felt intrigued the whole video
I knew war was a factor in the lore but nothing roped me Into the theories and speculation as much as the old birds have.
For starters, as I played the beta branch one of the most heard sound from the old birds I Got was the crying baby.
I found that very interesting seeing the Old birds have speakers or sound cannons on their chest and shoulders and high frequency sound waves have been used by police before and I assume has been/plans to be used in war.
Hearing a crying baby/injured animal can cause distress and panic with humans, let alone when a 100k lumen light is shining in your eyes while missiles fly at you.
I just imagine being a civilian in war and dealing with the voice of an old bird, it would cause you to go mad.
Another thing, what I thought would be alert sounds are actually laled as brainwashing is the files.
Very insightful. Love the video. Will you do a video on the butler? Would be very interesting
Sure thing!
Zeekerss: Hmmmm I wonder what my next enemy type should be inspired by
The humble Leviathan Siege Dreadnought:
19:03
Forest giant up there is done for 😭🙏
1:59 automaton you say?
CYBERSTAN, CANT KEEP HER DOWN!
@@arc8687WE COUNT DOWN
Lethal company's lore is an enigma
11:54 Those in the Lyran Commonwealth would LOVE this.
Orbital Insurtion: Throw the ‘Mech from space.
simply a banger, good sir
I think that the reason of removing the info about Anglen and Buemoch from the entries was to make the entry itself focus more on Old Birds themselves, be shorter and to leave a little bit of mystery for the player (even if ut was ruined because of V50 beta).
13:16 this is a reference to one of his other games
but I forgot the name of the game…
Oh interesting! Thanks for pointing this out.
the old bird got his own theme song 🔥
I thought that Artifice was either the origin or one of many locations housing Old Birds for whoever created them due to the size of the warehouses but your theory makes sense too
All right boys, were gonna need some serious help for these ones. ⬆️⬇️➡️⬅️⬆️
they sent in the supers
@@crimsonlanceman7882 watch those wrist rockets
bruh i was playing this while i was trying to sleep last night and the old bird noises had me shook 💀
Another great video!
9:04 As of current I believe this has been added back in, but the note from sigurd remains no longer there.
Also I believe that the old birds act as some form of security system, targeting any and all forms of life. My basis for this is that when you pull the apparatus out of the facility, _every single old bird on the map_ turns on and will actively walk around, as if they’re in a high alert mode. Also, they appear to attack animals too as nearly all the wildlife can be attacked by them, including baboon hawks, eyeless dogs, forest keepers, and even masked.
Here's something I just thought of, what if the dormancy is interrupted by the presence of "personell" affiliated with the company. And the nighttime activation is coincidental and actually a reinforcement that they become suddenly stimulated by their programming detects someone trying to feed "The Beast"
Furthermore it could reinforce their dormancy in the first place, as the universe goes barren, it would make sense for them to conserve energy after depleting the area of potential Company
I thought Embreon was a battle field rather than a testing ground. The more you know I guess
I assume the sounds emitting from the Old Birds are a form of psychological warfare that was used in battle to rattle and stir the minds of enemy troops to cause a decline in morale to gain a strategic advantage.
While people's theories of the old bird's being made to combat coil heads is probably true, I think it's also very possible their sounds were made for psychological warfare
New York Times best seller ahh intro
The intro sounds like the beginning of a book and I like it
Imagine play first-time and see that
could be why its a "hidden" moon
If you pay real close attention the the “intro” of V50 in the side room, a testing/imterigation room there is a coil head in there, any ideas?
I do actually have some thoughts on this. We know that the coulheads were preshmed to be 'biological weapons' according to their bestiary entry, and so it seems likely that this was either some sort of weapon test or containment conducted by some group, perhaps the company, perhaps not. We also have it on relatively good authority from sigurd that Titan was to go to war around the time of his entries, and in the same sentence, he mentions that his father worked on Titan. Could it be that the character we play as in the scene could be Sigurd's father, and that he may have either been researching or developing the coulheads? Even if not, the possibility that Sigurd'a father is the character in the scene opens up the possibility for all manner of narrative stuff in the future. Perhaps a C-plot that follows him through these cutscenes.
loved this!
20.7k subscriber!
Now that I know the lore, I understand why an old bird spawned in my first two in-game days of playing this game. Freaky stuff
At 14:44 it mentions the boat which was only mentioned in the bunker spider entry. Not sure its significance but i thought it was cool to get something else to do with the boat.
Same here very interesting stuff
18:28 v60 adds the new mineshaft interior and caves so this makes more sense now
In my headcannnon, "old birds" is an out-of-universe Armored Core reference.
Old Birds seem to be designed to be the most brutal, effective, and efficient weapons of war in the lethal company universe. they try to take everything into account to effectively annihilate their enemies. they have grabbing attacks and fire attacks for close range, missles and flight for long range enemies, impossible armor, no one can hope to escape the old birds unscathed once they are spotted. they even can be seen as weapons of psychological warfare, with their sounds and speakers emitting dubious screams of human agony, likely to induce panic, and employees of the company certainly know of the instant and mortal fear the sounds induce when they are spotted. i have to imagine that when these weapons were created, their inhuman ambitions were met with the annihilation of both their enemies and the creators themselves. this is truly a weapon of total destruction and chaos.
I thought they were built to neutralize the tentacle monster "Jeb" and Contain Jeb In The Walls Then The Old Birds Went Out of Control as They Were Barely Used Anymore.
13:55 these noises in the files are names something along the lines of brainwash_2 or 1 so I think it’s a brainwash signal meant to brain wash enemies in the war of this game
Man, how did you make those cinematic shots? I've been searching for 2weeks and I've found none that could simulate the shaders like in normal POV...
WHERE D'YOU GET THAT??!
i gave a drunk guy hulk hands
My theory is that the old birds on the moons could be meant as protection machines that malfunctioned given how they attack other monsters and the strange distorted noises they make.
1:57 grabbed by the fuckin’ what? Someone give me some libertea and a railgun.
Embrion makes me even more uncomfortable knowing the crying baby sounds the Old birds make
I love the old birds. Any enemy chasing you? Dead. The only problem is that they can be killed by ahh fat worms
Since I haven't seen it anybody mentioned, I think that the sounds that the Old Birds use are supposed to be psychological warfare, something akin to what they did in Vietnam possibly.
The bowtie shape on the chest of the toy robot resembles the old bird’s chest too much to think they are not meant to be the same.
When comaring Old Birds and Coilhead they both sound like they were made specifically for war.
Coilheads are destructive bioweapons given that they contain radiation not to mention they can cause physical harm and have counter measures when it comes to be taken apart.
Old Birds by design sound like they spefically target Coil Head weakness through bright lights, loud sounds etc. Old Birds also specfically activitate when they detecte radiation in the area. Something that occurs when you have the aperatus. So they do seem designed to counter nuclear war fair
how interesting
I am a big fan of science fiction novels so it's cool to see the world building in this game
It's like Sponge Bob and that giant robot
Id love a Lethal Company PVE FPS where you go to war while trying to survive the monsters in Lethal Company
So, there's paradox talk and that about the whole timeline thing and Sigurd, but, just as a thought, what if after Sigurd dies or whatever, it's other crewmates filling up the bestiary? I mean, the stickynote is right there, so any other previous crews probably looked and went "Oh, this has some useful information, but x is outdated and y has been disproven, and z is now a thing, I should fill out the new info we have, using the existing info for scale and context." I feel like that could make some sense, and allow for stuff as possibly confusing as "Sigurd" knowing about events centuries after he existed, couldn't it?
I think it makes sense that the date was cut out if their first appearance was in 2143, especially if there were notes by Sigurd in there. Sigurd died in 1968, so how could he have seen the old birds if they had their first recorded appearance in 2143?
Update: okay, good, you also mentioned this at 11:00. i hadn't gotten that far in the video yet :)
Not bad im sure this will blow up 👍
"most brutal and unforgiving enemies." NAH I SURVIVED BEING SHOT FIVE TIMES BY THAT MF B)
Are you planning on doing an updated version of the video now that the newest update is out?
oh the bestiary entry got the hands wrong
Their silhouette kinda looks like a rotisserie chicken
Old birds look like v1
I always thought that artifice was some kind of very secluded manufacturing plant bwcause of the enormous doors on the hangars, which i had thought were for storing old birds.
The sound effects produced by the Old Birds are likely meant as effects intended to disperse, disable or subjugate organic targets. The speakers are weapons.
For their alert tracks "Lrad" can be found.
IRL LRAD = Long Range Acoustic Device. LRAD essentially projects sound at high intensity over great distances.
There are some more peaceful applications of LRAD such as use as a broadcast system or to deter wildlife from certain locations such as airport runways.
However, LRAD can (and is very frequently) be used by law enforcement to disperse crowds. LRAD is used for varying military purposes, such as in urban warfare, on ships to deter waterborne assailants or make shipwide broadcasts.
The Old Bird has three front facing speakers on it's torso, likely LRAD speakers.
Given that Old Birds are dispatched to a planet without an expectation to leave or return to their point of origin it is likely they are dropped in from orbit with no other function than to "clear" the planet surface.
I think when facing swathes of well entrenched defenders something like LRAD would be quite scarily effective.
Love the video
8:50 idk if that's what happened here, but with maneater Zeekers basically admitted that he changed the lore to make it possible for Sigurd (working for the company in iirc 1950s) to encounter and have flavor text for it
To quote a situation from the discord:
Zeekers: [early bestiary entry to maneater]
Other User: But wouldn't he be dead by the time of this document being written?
The same thing happened with old birds
Just noticed, I was going to reply ping you because I'm disrespectful and love to bother people with stupid questions or something like that but didn't @#1 Zeekerss
Zeekers: thanks, i changed it
:Janky_Pikachu:
reshaped history to keep sigurd in the log.
They look like a cyclops from Battletech