13-17 Honda Accord ABS Light Code 121-11 VSA Solenoid Malfunction
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- Today we have a 2013 Honda Accord 4 cylinder with multiple DTC's and warning lights. We diagnosed this car as having a faulty VSA (ABS) pump and walk you through the replacement procedure. This repair does require you to have a scan tool to perform the zero point calibration after the replacement. The bleeding procedure is pretty standard but we show you that as well. This process should be the same for 2013 Honda Accord, 2014 Honda Accord, 2015 Honda Accord, 2016 Honda Accord, and 2017 Honda Accord.
Timecodes
0:00 - Intro
0:32 - Diagnostics
0:59 - Removal
4:35 - Install
7:39 - Bleeding
10:26 - Calibration (Scan Tool Required)
11:49 - Verification
12:25 - Outro
My 2014 Honda Accord had these codes. I removed the black module (only 4 small screws and the wiring plug) and left the ABS pump body in. Since I didn't have to remove any break lines/tubes it saved me from having to bleed the brakes. I mailed the module into Module Masters and they sent it back in 3 days fully refurbished. $300 after shipping. Reinstalled it in 10 minutes, drove it around and the indicator reset itself after a few minutes. All fixed! Module Masters gave me a 5-year warranty on it. Easiest repair ever.
Hey, is it still working fine? My car has these lights. Thinking of sending just the module
Awesome! How did you get at the two bottom screws on the module box?
@@robbieanderson9387 shows you how to take off the bottom 2
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After I read your comment I did exactly the same thing and it worked.How did you find them ?Module master 100% recommended.Thank you .
Any video sharing knowledge on this problem is valuable. Thank you. That being said, it is even easier (as long as you have basic DIY skills) to remove only the black ABS module and leave the brake lines still connected to the silver colored block. Send the module off for rebuild and re-install. I used Module Master and got great service, plus they back their work up with a warranty. You can drive the car without the module - will be lots of warning lights on and no ABS/Traction Control. 2014 Accord Sport here.
Thank you and you're right. I have done this on other vehicles in the past if parts are hard to come by.
This is what I was wondering! So it is completely good to send the black module for repair while still driving with the main pump connected? Does it still require a brake bleed using this method since the lines are not disconnected?
@@brindan1609No brake bleed needed because you’re not disconnecting any lines. Car will not have ABs or traction control. Cover up the exposed areas while your module is gone to keep dirt out of the electronics.
@@GoGators198 that’s perfect! Besides no ABS / traction control, I assume everything else would be fine to drive for a few days?
you’re awesome thanks
Excellent performance in the brake system service. Thank so much for video.
Thanks!
Great Information fo replacement....
Thanks a lot for the information, i have fixed my Honda Insight ABS module motor pump stuck... anyway, good luck for the future! Greetings from Bucharest, Romania!
Awesome! Congratulations!
Will be back for more videos about Honda automotive, i have 4 Honda cars, so i suppose i need plenty of information. Thanks again, have a nice weekend!😇@@automotiveinsight
Thank you for this video, and thank you all for the comments, learned a lot. I have a 2013 Honda Civic with this code ordered part and have been waiting for 6 months for the part to arrive current status unknown. Issue diagnosed at around 122k miles and currently have 132k miles on car. The light would come on and off intermittently since November of last year but erroneously received a suggestion from the dealer that it might be a software update issue so might not be a serious problem, they would only do it if the codes light up which it was not always on but maybe a few minutes every couple hours of operation back then.
I saw someone got a loaner while waiting for this part to arrive. What functional aspect of the vehicle is not working?
Great, informative & helpful video. You likely will save some Accord owners a ~lot~ of money! It seems that Honda quality has been slipping these past 10 years or so. What a shame. I hope they can get it right again and I'm also hoping my '13 Accord 6MT never needs this repair! I don't think my next new car will be a Honda which is sad as I've been a Honda fan since buying a 1987 Civic Si back when I was starting out as a driver.
Honda is still the gold standard. What other brand would you suggest? Toyota would be the only one and they just had to recall a couple hundred thousand v6 turbo truck engines.
Informative certainly. I thought you needed to fully cycle the ABS unit with the diagnostic in order to fully expel the air from within???
Yes I have a 2013 Honda crosstour and I'm getting the same trouble code but I'll check with Honda with the discount that complete pieces like $1,100 and I believe the remanufactured module I think is between $300 and $400 so I just wonder how long the remanufactured module last😊
A lot of times tightening the line can bust the threads for you also, then you can remove. Valve lapping compound looks pretty slick! Increase friction yeah?
U can heat up the flare nuts with bolt induction heater or heat gun to the module with penatrating fluid.
Nice video. My 2014 accord is having same issue. I will fix it for mine. However I sae in another video that black module can be repaired. So will try to fix it in my workshop.
Did you get it repaired ?
there are places that repair them for a faction of the cost of a new module.
Does the code numbers on the abs module pump have to match when changing it?
I have same problems this car as well but I scanner a code is 123-11 is that the same part I need
❤❤❤thank you
I have question my car is 2013 Honda accord sport I buy abs 2012 I don’t know is work ? Or what years I need for my. Car help me please
Is there a way to do the sensor re learn without the tool? I found a used module, from exact same model 2013 Accord LX-S. I can do the replacement but not sure the re learn can be done through the OBD2 jumper procedure.
Did u fugure out if there was another way?
Im getting vsa signal failed 85-01 and fwc lwd sensor giving( invalid data ) uo416 anyone know if this is vsa croaking out or if its just maybe a fuse.. have already changed the battery. problem is intermiten sometimes itll be on as soon as i turn the car on sometimes i need to drive for a few miles im so stuck on this issue
Thank you for this video great job. Do you have any suggestion or alternative to buying the Honda part being that it is so expensive? Any thoughts on having it repaired. Can I drive without replacing it, like in the old days no ABS? Can this result in other damage?
Someone in the comments said they were having theirs sent out for repair. Maybe reach out to them.
Where can I send it to get repaired???
are there any code readers I can buy to reset the lights myself? I got my module repaired but the lights are still on after installing
I’ve seen a few videos where they had to use a jumper wire to make those lights go away.
think i could slap a 2011 civic vsa setup on my 13 civic?
Hello I had the 121-11 code listed , mechanic replaced the module, did the reset and calibration but vsa light and traction, abs and fwc fault are still on any tips?
You figure this out ?
Could be the wheel speed sensors and also I’ve found this problem to happen after put non matching tires on the car “more than 2 different brands”
How do you remove that connector exactly? I see you pry up a tab on top, but isn't there a bottom tab too? What do you do with that white piece? Do you lift it or push it back (away)? Thanks please!!!
That white part on the connector is pulling type to unlock the connector.
How did you get it out without brake fluid oozing out? I had quite a mess after removal.
I usually just put my fingers over the holes, but you could also take the caps off the new one and thread them into the old one before removal.
I need to replaced the same part!! For my accord 2015 do you have a link to order the part? Or the part name
ABS module. We ordered it from Honda dealer. According to the comment section, most people are saying they’re on back order.
Hi, there. ABS Module part its in "back order" status. I cant found original part. Can you tell me where did you get it?. I need one for a 2017 Accord Sport CVT.
Our local Honda dealer ordered it and had it in a few days.
Thanks
@@automotiveinsight I have been waiting 6 months for mine and they keep on pushing the ETA date and bringing this back to unknown status. Currently unknown with 3 other vehicles also waiting for the part.
Hello sir, my 2013 Honda Accord has the same issue? Where did you buy that VSA pump? Could you let me know please? Thanks in advance
please file a complain against honda through highway safety admins website more reports = quick response or fix from honda
@@fsx0567 just reported it. Thanks for the tip. Can’t find the part anywhere and have this issue.
Any update on your car?
Hi
I have a 2016 Honda Accord EX-L V6. My VSA light is not on but other lights on my dashboard are on. The ABS, Tire Pressure, BRAKE, Powering Steering, and the Stability Control lights keep turning on and off and keep repeating that. I scanned the car and the code 121-11 VSA Solenoid Valve Malfunction comes up. If the VSA light on the dash is not lighting up but my scanner has that code, do you think that means I need to replace the ABS Module? Also, how do I find out before starting this job if my scanner being (the CRP123 Professional) can do the neutral position memorization procedure?
Thank You In Advance For Your Help!
Crp123 scan tool. I dont see it listing a zero point/ neutral position as a special function
Ours was doing the same thing. I think it would intermittently lose communication with the vsa module. That’s more than likely the issue. It is a pretty commonly failed part. As for the scan tool I’m not sure but the previous comment said it doesn’t look like it has that function.
I have a 2014 accord with the same code. The OEM part is on back order. My mechanic is sending out the whole module for repair.
Hello sir, my 2013 Honda Accord has the same issue? Where did you buy that VSA pump? Could you let me know please? Thanks in advance
@@seawavedv8675did you find out where to order module from ? I need one too
Just wondering why would the module fail?? Thanks for another awesome video!
Some electrical issue in the module. Poor solder or something. It’s pretty common on these cars.
I have a 2014 Accord with the same problem, how do I know which module is compatible with my car?
Sometimes the lights are off and stay that way and other times they stay on.
Hey guys. I have a 2014 Honda Accord Sedan LX with similar issue. ABS, Brake, Traction Control lights are all on. I've been chasing this down for 3 months. Is it possible the fuse could cause this? I ordered a used pump on EBAY but it was for a 2015. When my mechanic put it in he said it wouldn't talk with the ECU computer. My question is does that matter? I have not noticed any effect on the car with braking or anything else and Id love to get these lights off. When I start the car in the morning the lights go off for 2 hours making me think its getting a bad signal and might be a fuse or bad relay. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. My car has 121K and I am the original owner and dealers are crazy what they want to fix something like this. Car runs great.
Have you fixed your problem ? If so what was it .?
@@joshuac5932 no the lights stay off for 2 hours in the morning and from a cold start. There is nothing mechanical wrong with the car and I just ignore when they pop on. Makes me think it's something else.
The car can still be driven with these lights, you just wont have the abs capabilities of helping to stop when braking hard. abs prevent your wheels from locking up with breaking. but uou still have regular braking power. I have this issue with my car and i refuse to pay honda $3k to fix it. I came across several Companies that specialize in fixing these for like $200 to $300. Just make sure you have that DTC 121-11 code. which is the common code with all the modules that has this same problem.
Does the fcw and ldw light have something to do with vsa
Im trying to find out the same thing… let me know if you did!!
if I replace with used one do I need to reprogram it?
It does not require programming.
What symptoms are the vehicle is experiencing? Don’t just give the code or lights.
This part is extremely expensive. Would it be ok to buy a third party ABS module
Yes, I bought a used one for 50 bucks. Over 1yr later all is still well. $1200-$1800 new from Honda!!! That wasn't an option. There are companies that rebuild them for around $200 but your car will be down for about 3-4 days until part gets shipped back to you. 2013 Honda accord.... I still have my old one that I will rebuild if/when the used one fails. Ebay has used and rebuild services for these
Why there is no pressure when you bleed the calipers
Because we’re going slow and only using about half the brake pedal stroke.
Cuanto cuesta el modulo vsa
I used my scan tool to see the solenoid itself. And the value was stuck. Boom. Bad
About the brake bleeding...your friend is only pressing the brake halfway down?
Yeah
@@automotiveinsightcouldn't you just bleed at the brakes instead? Why bleed at the module? Just curious as I'm about to replace this on my dad's car
@@jwuonog you can, it just takes longer.
Where did you order a new VSA Modular? I’ve been waiting for a month to just see if they can order them. 2 dealerships have them on back order.
Been waiting for my VSA for 17 accord v6 since march 😭... I am actually suing Honda now
@@fsx0567 what’s the information for the paperwork. This is ridiculous and they need to add it to the recall.
I have been waiting since June. The dealer gave me a loaner. Are you driving yours while you wait?
@@pinpinpula9863 yes I am. I’m thinking about buying one online and having the dealership install it
@@mikeowens3739 Problem with that is that they won't insure it.. so no warranty
Any good website to find 2012 HONDA ACCORD ABS MODULATOR & PUMP ASSEMBLY (US MARKET), SEDAN, 2.4L AUTOMATIC
You must be indian
Should use a rag when bleeding module. Brake fluid is corrosive .
Way Too Much Mess With The Oil For Bleeding The Brakes