PowerColor RX 5700 XT Red Devil Review vs. The Hype
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2019
- We're finally benchmarking and reviewing the Powercolor RX 5700 XT Red Devil, featuring the AMD Navi GPU. This review tests the Red Devil vs. Sapphire Nitro, MSI Gaming X, & more.
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In this review of the Powercolor RX 5700 XT Red Devil, we look at thermals (temperature) for Junction, GDDR6 memory, and VRM MOSFETs, particularly as compared vs. other RX 5700 XT cards. The reference card, Sapphire Pulse, Sapphire Nitro OC+, ASRock Taichi X, MSI Evoke, Gaming X, Gigabyte Gaming OC, and others are all on the charts.
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Gamers Nexus please do the ROG strix 5700xt. I just got mine and love it.
To be honest after I read reviews I also look at warranties. Both the Nitro and Red Devil only have a 2 year warranty. I never used to worry about warranties but after being denied one from EVGA because I was only a few months past the warranty period when my expensive card died I really expect more.
Any plans to review the Arctic Freezer II aio? maybe the 360, when its available?
Thanks for the video, I wanted to let you know that the sound has artifacts: the loud vowels are sandy, most noticeable in the intro in this video. I started noticing it on your videos few months ago.
@@hickelpickle you have reviews already out and 240mm beat noctua nd15 for about 5-7 C
When tech Jesus reviews devil card
oh the irony
Facts tho 🤣🤣🤣
Lmao! The comment is at 666 right now zomg
Lmao wooow
Even more, he thinks it is good ...
"..or a Thicc III" - that was a threat if I ever heard one XD
I think it was meant to be 'Thiccc' not 'Thicc 3,' with the 3 implying the amount of C's
@@xaytana it's a new triple fan XFX card...
@@TADP0LE9806 I really haven't followed XFX for years, so oops I guess? They should've just called it Thiccc, instead of Thicc III. It'll probably be just as bad as the Thicc, though.
@@xaytana I fear it will be, probably more brute force cooling at high noise levels. You never know though, maybe they made some improvements based on GN's feedback
@@TADP0LE9806 I looked it up, and based on what I've seen, which could just be unofficial renderings, the build looks exactly the same as the Thicc but with three fans. All of the plastic shrouding, the fake grill at the back, etc., all the same as the Thicc. The only difference is the overall length and the extra fan.
The last 5700XT review? 🥺
Noooo!!! I was waiting for a full Tech Jesus roasting of the ROG STRIX!! 😈👍
Time to boycott gamers Nexus. I need my strix roast or I will die.
@@thetrashman5252 Yeah nah, I just love when Steve really serves it to manufacturers for poor quality products, like the THICC. 😈
@@MafiaboysWorld My H500P Mesh still stares at other H500Ps in the kind of pure disgust and revulsion that it begins vomiting all of its plastic panels and screws.
I returned my Strix and got the Red Devil last Saturday lol
My Strix runs like a dream, nothing like the reviews, I do have it in a Thermaltake P90 open case though. I think the high ends are just microscopically different and pretty much not worth worrying about unless you are on a tight budget.
TBH I've been waiting for you and your team to do their thing with this card, always love the level of detail in these videos. Thanks for doing what you do, great video.
Excellent. Thank you. Looking at your data, I think the Red Devil's fan curve is perfect for my needs. Silence is king.
I love "8 to 10 screws depending on how you count them" thanks for all the hard work you guys do to keep is informed!
The only reason why it was hyped so much was because it was the first proper, well made 5700XT at the time. They made a great first impression, and kept it despite other great releases like the Nitro.
I would still choose red devil over nitro+ since here nitro+ is 40€ (around 50$) more expensive.
@@juhokaartoaho Nitro+ is 35 USD more expensive here in the states.
@@computers6205 I'm not that familiar with US taxes so I don't know if that includes all taxes you have to pay for it but all of the prices here in Finland have taxes in them. Most commonly that tax is 24% so that could close the actual gap in the prices. I usually find it so that if I convert USD to Euro and ad 24% tax the prices are really similar to what we pay here.
Juho Kaartoaho in here nitro plus and this card is the same price. Sapphire pulse is 50€ cheaper. Which one do i get?
@@user-oh4ky7rv5i I would suggest that if you aren't tight on the budget get Devil or Nitro which ever better matches your build, but if you want to save some money buy the pulse. You probably can easily overclock it to same speed as the other two.
I bought the gigabyte gaming oc on your guys recommendation and am very happy with it.
So in all sincerity. Thank you for doing these reviews. I really appreciate it.
Thank you for reinforcing everything I already knew before I bought this card Steve. Currently buying something so you and yours do not starve.
"Something major OR a THICC3" I like your style
Forget thiccboy 2... We want a cutepet 5700xt
They made a thicc iii
I love watching these and feeling like I'm smart and understand all of this, when in reality I'm lost.
I love how even at 17:00 when he's discussing the difference between the two, aesthetic doesn't even come up. such a dedicated tech enthusiast. mad respect for you and your channel man. thanks for helping me make my decision as to which to pick up. thankfully this is my last 5700 xt video I'll have to watch to make up my mind now. SUBBED & LIKED, hope u get your burgers n live long 🤘
I bought this card last month and I’m super happy to see that Steve approves!
Right now is 409€ with 9% discount what is you opinion so far
I look for 5700xt card
Has it lasted to this day and has it crashed yet?
@@raychu3110 I've had mine for a while with zero issues. Just got done with a three hour VR session on my simulator. Drivers are excellent. I wouldn't listen to any Nvidia fans saying other wise. If you're in the market for a sub 500 dollar card, this is the one. It's about 6% less performance over the $550 2070 super. It has impressed me so much I've gone back and rewatched all the reviews
This is the card I got, thanks to the great coverage in videos like this one. Thanks!
I feel like Steve rarely gives props. When he reviews an objectively good product he describes it as "fine" whilst other reviewers are like Omfg! Awesome!
Aye a hard nod from Steve is when he recommends a product in it's segment.
I love the case reviews, statements like "does ok", "can be brute forced", and the like are actually noteworthy from them. They don't consider appearance but do consider value so no matter what your budget, you can figure out what case in that range is the better performer.
This is exaclty what I like about this channel. No hype, no personnal preference, only straight facts and constructive criticism.
At least you can be fairly sure he's not being paid to say good things. I guess GN is fine and sort of OK.
Well, computer components are tools, really. If a tool does what it's supposed to, and does it well, that's the best praise it can get. Doesn't need any embellishment or hyperbole.
I know this video is "dated", but i wanted to mention that the difference on my red devil from edge to junction was 32c. I tighten the screws on the cooler by almost two full rotations so they felt firm, which lowered the difference by more than 10c.
I swear literally every time I'm stuck with a PC issue your video crops up outta nowhere and saves me
I appreciate these reviews and have watched all of them even though I'm not in the market for one.
Thanks for the review, just wish they had these in stock in a few more stores, it is getting better, but slowly.
Keep on chugging bro! These videos are so in-depth and so helpful!
I love your review dude it's so in depth and very honest. Very unbiased and perfect review!! THANKS !!! :)
I thought my headset was dying during that intro. Y'all gave me a heart attack :P
From powercol- *gets kidnapped*
Thanks for stretching the 5700 XT reviews. Good summary on all of them 👍
As much as I wanted a bit more room for growth, a brand spanking new reference 5700 card for $260 was hard to pass, so I joined the bandwagon on the very low end, but not complaining with such price.
And on another note, whoever says Steve’s videos are boring have never been in engineering meetings. No BS and a lot of great info to digest. Keep up the good work and onwards!
I truly appreciate your contribution to giving it to us straight.
Keep up the great work. No data massaging as usual and reasonable points made
Just bought one (at last). The acoustics alone swung it for me, but thermals are an added bonus too.
You hit the money right at 15:25. A lot of us are looking at Black Friday and Christmas time for sales for our new cards. Now as you can imagine, I've been keeping my eye on the Red Devil and the Nitro+.
We need a Gamers Nexus sandwich maker, so when you make a grilled cheese sandwich, the GN logo is baked in. Should include an overclocking switch to cook your sandwiches faster
just bought my red devil last week! I love it
Really enjoyed the video big help. Thanks
This was the review I was waiting for, I've been debating on whether to pick this up or the Nitro+. Thanks again, Steve!
Which one did you go with? I'm torn between these too
@@hellostranger2269 I went with the Nitro +, I found it to have a bit more performance when streaming, gaming, and video/music editing.
@@amwelch01 yeah good choice, I got it too mainly because the Devil wouldn't fit in any of my 3 cases, the Nitro+ only barely fits in one. Thr power cables are squished by the side panel and I had to install the card from the front panel. I have an ITX case mind you.
I love my Red Devil, but I also got it the first week partner cards came out at MSRP.
I had to double check to make sure you guys didn’t make a 5700 xt red devil video before, could’ve sworn you’ve reviewed it before lol
As a consumer that is looking for my next video card to more than likely only play KSP2, can't say how much the 5700 XT reviews are appreciated. Keep it up Xx_Garmers_NeXxus_xX!
I ended up getting the gigabyte card for its regular height for my case, the others were just too damn tall. Set to 1800mhz, and managed to get it to stay at 960mv, so its super cool and quiet!
I was hopeing for some testing with a different TIM on the GPU, just to see if TIM replacement could improve temperature enough to warrant a TIM replacement. Good review nonetheless.
My OVERCLOCK settings for my Red Devil 5700xt using Wattman. GPU-2120mhz, Voltage-1180mv, Memory-920mhz, Power limit +50%. I set the fan curve to be more aggressive. First point marker from the right set to 75% speed @ 90c. Second point marker from the right set to 70% speed @ 75c. Third point marker from the right set to 30% speed @ 65c. The first 2 point markers from the left I kept at the factory levels. With these settings my Junction temperature doesn't go above 77c. The base temp stays at 59c. In games my clock will peek just under 2100mhz, but it runs regularly between 2015-2030mhz. Those frequencies can vary from game to game. Power consumption peeks at 226 watts. It took a while to dial in those settings to get it stable. I love this card. I sold my Radeon VII and could not be happier!!
Thanks to you I've picked Nitro+, so don't pay too much attention to whiners. It's mindblowing for me that someone would mind for reviews on... reviews channel. There's nothing else NEW to review anyway.
Congrats on; "This is *probably the last 5700 XT we'll review". I was starting to feel more sorry for you than usual man :X
no Red Dragon XT in sight 😢
did I miss the ROG XT?
Can someone explain XFourty7's comment to me? I don't get it, but looks like at least 80 people have. Captain?
@@damdibidum I was (half jokingly) congratulating Steve & the rest of the GN guys because they've had a rough couple weeks constantly reviewing the same product (which Steve, among many reviewers, have explained their 'love' for in the past).
I added the last part (more sorry than usual) because Steve rarely gets a break. At least he got to enjoy one GPU review this year! (That cat/dog card lol)
The thicc 3 did come out and we are now waiting for a review :]]
Dude, your reviews are perfect!!!
I initially wanted this card but I ended up with a Sapphire Nitro+ Special Edition after Cyber Monday.
And I really like it.
I got the red devil after watching your sapphire pulse review, they are the exact same price in Denmark
Nice review, should have focused more on noise comparisons. As far as I understand it the Red Devil is slightly quieter than the Nitro+
Thanks for the review on this card. I did like the EVGA motherboard with the AMD card in it.
I think it’s just easier to put the warranty void if removed sticker on all the cards instead of hoping the ones that don’t have the sticker end up in the USA because some will either way.
The issue is that for the warranty period you are literally banned from cleaning & maintaining the card. It's like a warranty sticker on brand new car where you wouldn't be able to swap tires without loosing warranty for whole car. Stupidity. It's irrelevant where the card will end up in. I got mine 5700 xt pulse in UK and the sticker sucks af.
@@prof.pavlov7347 these stickers are unenforceable in the USA. They violate America's recently passed "right to repair" laws. Having these stickers on cards sold in America is technically illegal.
@@mitchell3876 I know but that doesn't apply for the rest of the world. But it should.
@@mitchell3876 I'm not American
Jason Gooden my condolences... ;-)
9:00 depth of field effects are pretty intense in the new Sniper Elite game
I wanted this card so badly but was tired to wait for some availability... Now I have a ref card with wc and I'm pretty stocked about the results!
congrats on finishing the 5700xt reviews...hopefully the 5900xt will launch next month
More Navi content pls! Like how to flash non XT to XT and Undervolting/OC etc... That new Navi GPU's are very nice and i can't wait to buy the Big Navi!
You guys need to investigate modding the 5700 into an XT using the bios mod. A "gamers nexus" dive similar to the Vega 56 days.
Not recommended as cheap GPU card makers use lower quality caps and vrms on the 5700 that can blow up with the higher requirements and frequinces
@@timothygibney159 I'm using the reference design, setting the rpm to 3200 seems to keep it cool and the clocks are hitting 1950mhz. Around 70c on the GPU.
Waiting for the china waterblock to arrive
The Power Colour 5700XT card is cheaper than the 5700 one now .. but they are probably RMAed more than more expensive cards.
I appreciate the large number of 5700XT reviews you've done.
This is the one I was going to get. Overclockers had a Palit 2070 super Jetstream for £40 more on Friday though, so now I am team green.
The end of next year may well change me again though. 2020 should be a great year for GPUs with Intel joining in and AMD taking next gen consoles.
Finally the Red Devil. Thank you!!
I bought the Red Devil. I had a hard time choosing between it and the Nitro+ but ended up buying the Red Devil simply because of availability.
due to availability I bought the strix
but I replaced it within a few days for the nitro+ but originally wanted the red devil too
so I'm happy to hear here Steve recommends both
@gnarlin Same choice and same reasoning by me ;)
@Clyde Cash so sad to see people falling into this trap just like i did :( you are gonna return it in 2 days
Clyde Cash how are you finding the drivers ? Any issue with games crashing, pc freezing etc? Or did you just install the card on a fresh windows? I really want a 5700xt but people say the drivers are a whole mess
I live in Portugal and red devil simply doesnt exist , period ! dont know how can this be happening. 50% of the card not yet arrived after almost 3 month of release, even on amazon hard to find all sold out,...
Bought an open box Red Devil from Micro Center for $373... Only one I could find! This thing is awesome.
I bought the red dragon 5700xt for 350euro , the difference compared to my old rx480 is insane, to bad it's a bit hoot 77c die and 91 junction
Nice grab!
I wish the quality of AMD gpus overall were better and not shit with quality being reserved for the Nvidias. It's like ryzen1 all over again
@@timothygibney159 What are you talking about? Navi is a great performer for the money, both cards outperforming the respective nVidia competetion (2060S and 2070S), at lower prices. Unless you care about ray tracing or something.
SAME!!!
The Thicc III is here!, when are we getting a review?
I buyd yesterday my 5700XT Red Devil its really nice card !
The top speed REALLY interests me. I live in a rather hot and humid area in summer (up to 40-45 C) and have no AC, co it sounds a nice thing to have
I was drawn in by the thermals on this card, I still don't know how I feel or what card I want to pick but this does help thanks.
Given a totally even choice, I'd personally go with the Nitro+. Totally aesthetic, but I think the RGB lighting on the Nitro is a lot cleaner. However, I live near a Micro Center and Micro Center keeps Powercolor cards well stocked for the right price.
Heating inductors lowers saturation current somewhat, heat sinking may be required for designs using marginal parts.
ASUS Rog Strix I hope is the next one. I've seen some reviews but I want your type of analysis. Never tired of this 5700XT thermal reviews... please continue!
As always your reviews are the best, too bad its the last XT you'll review, was wanting to know how good was the red dragon, since there are not that many reviews
You think there are barely any Red Dragon reviews? Try and find PowerColor Dual Fan reviews :P
PowerColor dual fan is the red dragon (?) Like the one they did on the non-xt version
Just want to mention it since I think Steve unfairly disregarded another reason to consider choosing one card over another when they are technically so close in testing....and that's because you simply like it! :)
Great vid as always, glad to see the red devil perform so well, I also would like to see the backplate utilized better.
I bought this card for my living room pc mainly as a card to hold me over till next generation cards come out, I had no idea how well this thing would perform for the price! I'm not even missing my 280 when playing from the couch at 4k.
What about the drivers that cause the black screen issue? has that been fixed yet?
@@AnarickTheDevil I haven't had the issue you are referring to.
I bought this Red Devil card and I'll agree the auto fan curve setting isn't aggressive enough; however I like messing with my cards so it's no issue.
Keep in mind I'm coming from an R9 390X that wouldn't stop power cycling for whatever reason.
Seeing the "auto overclock GPU" setting was interesting because the very first time tried it, AMDs software said I hit 875mHz on the GDDR6 and 2036 on the GPU after playing some Team Fortress 2 @ 1440p 144hz. Shoulda gotten a screenshot, but the point in telling all of this is GN did an amazing review and while this card is a bit overhyped imo, y'all reviewed this card in a way that was simply neutral and didn't/ hardly catered to the hype at all.
3:16 "2,4,6, 8 to 10 screws...depends how you count them" wut ?!
This is the only channel where I wouldn't question the integrity of a review just because it was a previous sponsor
More non-XT card reviews please! Especially the Mech OC and PowerColor Dual Fan (basically no English reviews anywhere) because they are cheaper options than the Pulse and Red Dragon.
I'd also be interested in whether the cards with vertical grills (e.g Red Devil & Red Dragon) result in higher motherboard/SSD/CPU temperatures than the those with horizontal grills (e.g. Pulse & PowerColor dual fan). My motherboard (and others) have the M.2 slot directly below the graphics card so the idea of a GPU blasting heat into the case above and below is doesn't appeal but maybe it's insignificant?
Here's a review of the PC dualfan: it sucks. I exchanged it for the devil after 3weeks of pulling my hair out tinkering, and boy am I glad I did... It really made me consider returning it, giving up, and just using my rx 570. It was bad in games with every imaginable way. Coil whine, stutters, heat, bad bad bad.
The devil has treated me very well though and made me glad I upgraded from that 570 (now up on eBay) after all.
3 years later, mine is still going strong, and will happily play stuff like Cyberpunk at 1440p at about 70fps on reasonably high settings. Could not be happier with it.
I got the Red Devil because it's looks besides it's build quality. As soon as i saw it i wanted it haha. Fits perfectly in my build's aesthetics.
Nice I'm going to get the Red Devil after watching all your videos it really helped. Red Devil is $20 less than the Nitro in Canada so between the two it made it a no brainer for me.
yeah both are overpriced
I want FreeSync and have no interest in ray tracing. Also most importantly I don't care about your opinion... you should learn how to comment without shitposting Timi.
@@enthusiasticgamer88 no one should support gpu overprices thats shit
I would really be curious how a reference card with an aftermarket cooler compares to the custom cards. I've seen videos showing how much one of the aftermarket coolers can improve the reference card. But there are never any custom cards for context. The reference card + cooler is cheaper than some of the custom cards, so it could be a nice way to get similar performance to the custom cards on a bit of a budget.
I think if you could add just the heatsink weight to these reviews would make it interesting to see how much metal is being used for cooling and if that's a factor affecting performance.
I don't know why but UA-cam has really been pushing Ask GN 90 to me hard in the recommendations. Maybe they finally realized you are my favorite channel.
oh the 2019 prices i miss them...😔
Nitro is the card I wanted, but I have supported Manchester United since 1979, i.e., the Red Devils. If the card was red with black and white trim I would be getting this one. Totally rational. I got held up getting a new GPU because I just had to replace my studio reference monitors. Even if you do not create music on a computer or play guitar etc, monitors are the way to go. Music and soundtracks sound so good thru reference monitors. Prices for 5700XT have not come down yet. I have a RX590, so might wait a bit.
"Purely for looks" nope. It is also for structural rigidity. Remember all the old cards bending hopelessly. Never forget that.
As the Sapphire has TriXX, let's call it render option, to combine with the RiS I would stick to the Nitro+. Or even better Pulse if someone is on a tight budget.
Ok, this brings up a question I've had for a while. What do you, and other UA-cam tech reviewers do with the stuff you pay out of pocket for? Sell on eBay? Upgrade your own equipment? Just curious, and thanks for all the videos.
The good thing about the nitro+ is you can get potentially much lower thermals then this card because sapphire on the nitro+ used a copper heat plate as a direct die heatsink which allows the use liquid metal instead for lower temps but Red Devil was my second choice regardless if the nitro+ did not exist.
I know...2 years old. But I feel like I should post this. I've added liquid metal to a GPU with copper cold plate and it's a bad idea. For CPU's that have a full silicon seal on the heat spreader, it's fine because there is not exposure to air under that heat spreader. But on a GPU cold plate the liquid metal will dry out after a year or so.
@@cswann8 you know. This happened and noticed all the same things about under the heat spreader and everything lol I had the liquid metal on my laptop and a few weeks ago was wondering why it was over heating 90c on the gpu (1080m 200w modal) in seconds, after repasting 66c max. Turned out the liquid metal had dried out. Put thermal paste and all was good again. Though it was a 4 year old application but still lol. Learning! I'd still use liquid metal but I just need to stir it around more often now. Maybe I'll tend to it once a year because its still worth using i say. And never had a shorting issue.
I bought this card purely due to availability and after watching all the reviews, I am still happy with my purchase. Now if Power Color would just give me a way to turn off the Red LED that lights the IO, I would be thrilled!
Doesn't the red devil have adjustable colors
Timothy Gibney yes, but the red led that lights the IO doesn’t change for some reason. No matter what I do, I have that bright red glow.
Maybe Clint over at LGR Foods can hook y'all up with some sammich action.
October Gamer Days got me my 5700-XT Red Devil with BorderLands 3 for free, basically making the card $380. Great deal right now.
I would like to see a little praise for PowerColor here, they made a good product and they made it fast. When was the last time anything developed fast, be it hardware or games, when was the last time fast development led to something good? I definitely tip my hat to them.
I'm simply waiting for the next NAVI cards, i wanted this card for a long time but it's constantly out of stock on my side of the world, so you know, it feels like kinda a sign for me...
Still?
depending on how you count the screws......how else do you count em? I normally count every 1 screw = 5 screws on paper
There were 2 that might not "count" since they aren't necessary to remove to disassemble the card, but do hold the IO plate in.
I think bang for the buck, if you're up for this kind of thing, would be picking up a standard 5700 Red Devil and swapping out the BIOS on the card for the 5700XT variant. Since cooling solutions are identical and most of the hardware is identical, should be gucci.
ROG Strix OC 5700xt. Some reviews are saying it’s the worst and few are saying it’s the best 5700xt.
My Strix OC is topping at 70c and it’s very quiet in performance mode.
But few reviewers showing temps under load at 77-80c which is bs! they must have got reviewers copy old bios or preproduction models.
VeganPorKKebab my thoughts exaclty
My ROG Strix 5700xt was so bad that I had to send it back. It was louder (on default) than any previously owned gpu.
The temps got to over 90°C on default settings and even started to show artifacts on screen until the gpu driver crashed because it overheated.
By now Steve must be building his own 5700XTs to review.
In Finland the Red Devil competes with MSI Evoke, GBT Gaming OC and ASRock Challenger, all of them being 499€. The Gaming X is 515€, Nitro 539 €, Strix 559€, and Taichi 599€.
Muna
The Red Devil's silent BIOS is slightly quieter than the Nitro's - is another difference (which is the reason I will be getting it).
My red devil has memory temps going crazy into 104°C if ai dont bump up the fans manually. The oc stock bios is pretty damn aggressive but the fans dont want to keep it cool. More power tool can help a lot. Looking to replace the thermal pads on mine.
funny i have vram clocked at 1820 i dnot know what i can push and it stays at like 60 c 65 max i think you might have a defective card
"Warranty void if removed" labels are illegal in the US According to the Federal Trade Commotion. Google it.
Would you be willing to do a review of the the ASUS ROG Strix RX5700XT OC gaming? Love the content keep it up
Thicc III is out now. I imagine the review is on its way.
so, no strix review coming? :/