Zip Tie Mod Explained!! Also Governor Bypass! Gas Club Car DS, Precedent & Onward!! Gas golf cart!
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2020
- In this video I explain a quick and easy way to speed up your gas club car golf cart and still retain your factory rpm limiter.
NOTE: If you bypass the Governor then you do NOT need to use the Zip Tie method! The Zip Tie Method is mainly for people wishing to temporarily speed up their carts. These modifications are not harmful to your engine at all , unless you ride the RPM limiter for extended periods of time. You will feel it turn the cart on and off repeatedly. Once you feel that, you have found the limit and can stay just below it with the throttle. - Комедії
The ziptie method worked perfectly for my 2023 Club Car Onward 4-seater non-lifted. I had to remove a small, plastic access panel under the rear seats by removing two push-in clips. The spring was easy to reach once the plastic panel was removed.
Thanks for this video!! I just added this little slick method to my onward 6 seater lifted and increased the speed up to 25mph. Take off is very noticeable and the speed for sure. I didnt mess with the gov so I dont jack up the warranty. Im pleased with the results so far...lets see in 2 weeks if I get bored at the 25mph. lol thanks again!! Keep up the solid work on your vids...
I also have the 6 seater onward. So you looped a zip tie through that spring preventing it from stretching? Essentially making the spring one solid component
Thanks for the detailed instructions. Going to perform on my lifted 2009 Precedent.
Excellent video and explanation.
Great video really taught me a lot
Hey good video work. Like the slow detail explaining.
I own 1994 CC DS gas.
Recently replaced the starter generator and voltage regulator (mechanic suggested I replace the voltage regulator since I burned out two starters in two years)
After all that is runs again. BUT, my throttle only goes full throttle or nothing.
Whether I depress the foot pedal 1/4 or all 4” it accelerates the same.
Scratching my head here! LOL
I want to run stock.
Suggestions ?
Good stuff. Thank you
hay umm will this governor trick work on a 2020 tracker off rode
I have a few questions about my golf cart I washed one of your videos about the governor spring well I have a situation from where I bought one and the bracket is there but none of the wires
I performed the zip tie mod on my brother's 1999 club car. When it hit 23mph the oil light started flashing. Fresh oil change and full of oil. I lossened the zip tie and now getting about 20 mph no oil light. Will he pick up more speed if I open up the gorvern clamp?
What size is the sleeve and where do I get one?
I just bought a 2014 turf 1, seems to have a really low set govenor on it. Are most these motors the same from 2000 and up? This method should work for me as well right?
Just look for a spring of some sort and put a zip tie around it (around the governor) I'm almost positive if you just loosen up the pinch bolt on the governor (like he explained in the video) that would work too
So does stretching the spring not do anything? That's what I did and I got up to 20 from 18 but definitely not reving the engine past halfway
What your wanting to do is to keep the spring from stretching.
How do I get to spring on a 2021 Onward?
Hey great video. I have 2004 club car DS gas with the Kawasaki. You recommend the zip tie trick or loosen screw pry with screwdriver trick on governor mod . Please let me know and thanks
I like the “loosen the screw” method because you retain more control with the pedal so it’s smooth at low speeds.
@@ON20LBS can you do both? Would you go faster if both mods were done? Does one mod offer better speed than the other? Thanks
I have done the zip tie and it does work, has sped my 2001 DS up a bit. Have recently ran into some issues with cart spitting and sputtering and eventually shutting down for a bit and then it will go again, sometimes for days. I use the choke as well when that happens at it usually helps. Im thinking its possibly dirty carberator, gonna check it out, but since weve never had this issue before the zip tie, could that have anything to do with it ? Fuel filters are changed annually. What do you think ? enjoy your video
I would look into cleaning the carb. It only takes a small bit of dirt to cause an issue. It’s not likely the zip tie caused an issue as long as the rpm limiter has not been disconnected. If the cart runs fine when it’s cold but then acts up after about a mile or so I would check the coil. They act up when they get hot if it’s starting to fail. Hopefully that helps!
@@ON20LBS thank you very much for the response. I will check into it.
I have adjuster the gov, but the engine cuts off then back on. I have installed a tach. Looks to hit about 3700-3900 when it shuts down then back on. Should I turn it down so it it doesn’t keep shutting down and back on? Also I used the zip tie method before but wasn’t getting 25mph. During the summer months it seemed to get extremely hot. Would it benefit to make an vent under cart to pull air to cool it off?
You don’t have to turn it down, but just use your foot to back off the throttle to keep it off the rev limiter. And don’t worry about the heat, it does get very hot but there is a fan on the motor to keep it cool. I’m in south MS and run mine really hard with no issues.
How did you install the tachometer?
Yeah how did you install the tach
I did the zip tie mod and tightened the throttle cable to get the slack out of it. I can hit 31 mph now. Before it was 16 mph. However, I think by having done these two mods, it is impossible to do a smooth take off. Most noticeable when trying to reverse the cart out of the garage. I am wondering if I was to do your drill mod, would I just undo the zip tie mod and have pretty much the same speed, only it might take off smoother? And thanks for putting up this video!!
Yes if you drill out the rear arm then you’ll have no need for the zip tie. It will give you better throttle control at low speed. Also, the throttle butterfly does not move very far from closed to open. So, you should be able to let some slack out of your cable.
@@ON20LBS Ok that is good to know. What did you wind up using for that little round piece that sits on top? And I am guessing it is bigger diameter than the drilled out hole, not slipped down in there.
@@GottaRoost I was wondering the same thing
No way. I have both done and it bounces off the rev limiter at 29mph. That's with 23" tires. Unless you removed the rev limiter I ain't buying it.
@@GottaRoost @ How to boost Elec. 48 volt please
How do you do it with a tee
I got a1994 I did all this on back when I was 13 in 2000 2020 just had to get a new throttle cable
I have a 2003 club car ds set up similarly but I removed my governor inside the gear box is there any problem with doing that/ potential problems?
I’ve never done it , just because the older rear axles are easy to bypass by just loosening that bolt. But I see no issue with the gear mechanism being removed. I’ve thought about doing it on the newer rear axles.. but it was so firmly mounted in there that I just leave them in..
So all I’m doing is zip tying that spring so it cannot stretch? And if I want to, can I take the zip tie off and it will revert back to normal without causes any damage to the governor itself?
That’s correct! Just tighten it a little at a time until you get to the desired speed.
ON20LBS thank you very much 👌🏼
OK I see basically run the zip tie through the spring and tighten it down a bit so the spring cannot stretch itself I see perfect
Hello..I have a 2019 club car onward.. I put in a speed cable and I get 23.5 mph.. if I tighten cable further it sputters and jerks..I'm guessing this is the rev limiter? My neighbour's 2014 yamaha does 28..I'm guessing it has a bigger engine?
I see your other reply and am guessing the only other thing I can do is high speed gears??
Thank you
On a lifted 19 onward you should se close to 30mph before the limiter will kick in. Non lifted is about 24mph or so. The Yamahas actually have a smaller engine but they have a taller gear ratio to get a few more mph out of them. But yes the next step is the gears. Is your cart lifted?
2021 lifted 6 passenger onward. I tightened the zip tie on the spring, speed is good but up small hill and large hills you can feel it fall on its face and lose power. How can I increase/ maintain climbing speed/ power?
I would recommend a HD rear clutch spring from cartpartsplus.com and gboost severe duty belt. It will let the engine back shift raising the rpms for climbing hills. Also be sure to check that your getting enough throttle, might want to tighten the zip tie just a touch. If it’s tight enough that you hit the rpm limiter on flat ground then I’d do the spring and belt upgrade.
@@ON20LBS thank you I just ordered the gboost kit from them
OMG I hope this works I'm gonna have to try it!!
I have a 2020 club car onward, will this zip tie hack work? Also I don't want to void the warranty what can I do?
Yes, it sure does.
Brandon Warner
They can’t tell. Just cut the tie off then. I wouldn’t go past the zip tie in mods though if you are talking about warrantys.
Cut the friggin tie off! Good grief, people. This ain't rocket science. Geez!
I confirmed I have a 2015 ex40. I am getting about 25 mph. I did not touch the governor yet, but when I hit 25mph I hit something that feels like the rev limiter. Would it be beneficial to do the governor as well?? Thanks again!!
If your already hitting the rpm limiter then that’s the fastest it’s going to go without installing high speed gears. No real reason to mess with it further.
@@ON20LBS that's what I thought. Thanks again much appreciated!!
I have a 2016 with the ex40. Did you use this trick to speed it up?
Not sure if you’re still keeping up with this post. But I have a 2017 with the same motor. It shut down the other day, getting fuel through the injector, has spark, compression, and exhaust isn’t restrictive. Starter will turn over, but it will not fire up and go.
Could this be the RPM Limiter, and if so do you happen to know it’s location of it so I can test it?
Hey, yea .. first Make sure the fuel pump is working. When you first turn the key you should be able to hear it turn on and prime for a few seconds. Next check the coil wire that’s coming out of the back of the block. I think it’s yellow. It should be putting out 5volts when you hit the gas. It’s what tells the computer to fire the injector. The rpm limiter on yours is inside the ECU (computer).. so there is no bypassing it.
I have a 2020 Onward 4 seater lifted. I got 29 MPH on flat ground w/zip tie on the spring.. Increase of 9 MPH. I am running premium unleaded as well. Still plan to add mods and get to 40.
And throwing out a thank you to the crazy neighborhood lady that purchased her own solar powered speed warning sign. Helped with the task 👍
Lol!! Love it! … how you plan to get to 40? Some high speed gears will do the trick. But you’ll definitely want to upgrade the belt and do an HD driven clutch spring also!
@@ON20LBS its beyond my skill level. Gonna cost $$ to have someone modify it. At least want 35 MPH.
@@kevinanderson5249 well if your ever in south
Mississippi we can hook you up. I do high speed gear installs all the time.
@@ON20LBS what part of south mississippi am in picayune
I just put a new EX40 generator, carbed, ect. Changed the crank, counter balance, coil. I can get it to run with no torque, easily starting or I can feather it to run and have slight torque. What am I doing wrong. I can build motors, NP. I have no idea what's up with this teans gov. If I nail it. The throttle body opens and won't start the motor. I can feather it and get it running but won't let me give any more throttle? I'm lost!
What about the flywheel? Are you running the oem club car flywheel?
Hi, I just bought 2 -2023 Onward Gas lifted carts and tried the zip tie mod on both...the first on went great and the cart runs 28 mph but the second one i am only able to get 23 mph out of it with slow acceleration....I have tried to tighten the zip tie but it is as tight as I can get it...thoughts?
Check the throttle stop adjustment(it’s on top of the rear axle on the opposite end of the arm where your putting the zip tie) the other option would be taking up the floor mat and adjust some of the slack out of the throttle. Sounds like the throttle is getting pulled, but not completely.
@@ON20LBS Thank you for the suggestions...I have adjusted the throttle stop so the next thing to try is the slack in the throttle/pedal itself...I am just a novice , so hope this isn't too difficult ......am happy to try it
@@MarvinDufner it’s not too bad at all. After the floor is up you’ll see an access plate that pops off. Then you’ll see two 11mm nuts. What you’ll be doing is spinning the nuts toward the front of the cart. Just do a few turns at a time (maybe 5 turns) then test drive. Careful because the tighter you go then the faster it will want to take off. Ideally after I’m done adjusting you will see about 6-7 threads on the adjustment rod poking past the nut facing the front of the cart.
got it and thanks for the quick reply....will give it a shot in the morning....
i did the zip tie mod and was working properly. The wife drove it a few times to take kids to football practice and now rpms wont go up. basically an idol the entire time. Is that something to do with the governor or did is something else going on. I took zip tie off and still slow. Zip tie was only on for maybe 4 days with a total of 20 mins drive time.
How tight was the zip tie? You may need to pull up the floor mat and inspect the throttle cable where it attaches to the foot pedal.
How about adjusting the set-screw that is closer to the camera side of video? Won't that potentially raise the throttle limit as well? I am talking about the bolt with nut that limits how far the throttle linkage is allowed to pivot when you apply max throttle. Thx!
That simply adjust the full throttle and off throttle limits. And yes I would recommend backing the bolt out closest to the camera to allow for full throttle movement.
This was extremely helpful...thank you both
Kinda off topic. But I have a 14 precedent. That yellow wire is just hanging and not hooked up to anything. What’s that go to?
Is it on the back side of the engine? I’m
Pretty sure that goes to the oil sensor on the back of the block. Is your oil light on?
@@ON20LBS no but it flickers every so often
Thanks for good video. But I still have questions. You say in the video "the zip tie goes through the cable here". All I see is the spring. And you never installed the zip tie to demonstrate installation.
Yes that’s what I was thinking too would be helpful to actually see it to make more sense but it was a good video an explanation nevertheless
Will this same trick work on a club car carryall 1500? It's a 4x4 diesel
Probably not. I’m not really sure how their throttle setup is run.
@ON20LBS could I send you a picture? It's a jobsite rental so I don't want to make any permanent changes, but they have it set ridiculously low lol
@@rachealprim3285 yea sure send one over.
@@ON20LBS how do I send you a message?
Why not change the gears in addition to this adjustment ? It would probably put less stress on the engine and axles
That’s exactly why I do this mod. To give the motor more rpm and throttle input to pull the high speed gears that are installed.
Thanks for the info! How bad is it to keep the motor on higher rpms for extended periods? And what motor do you have? Thanks!
It’s really no problem as long as you don’t disconnect your electronic rpm limiter, and don’t bounce it off the limiter constantly. I have the Subaru ex40 and have had this done since day one. I now have right around 350 hours on the motor.
@@ON20LBS thank you!!!
Hello I have a if you make your golf cart go faster will you damage the motor
Please apply by because I want to know for my golf cart
Joe Curry I’m at 410 hours now and have no issues. Just leave the electronic rpm limiter and don’t bounce off of it and you’ll be good!
Mi club cart tempo se tironea
I have a 2018 Onward Gas lifted model... Are you saying that if I simply do the zip tie mod, I don’t need to mess with the governor? Just want to be clear. Also, if I just do the zip tie, how much more speed can I expect? I’m getting about 18-19 now. Thanks
Yes you can simply do the zip tie. Just start loose and tighten a little at a time. If your lifted on 23in tires you can expect to be around 25mph comfortably. Your rpm limiter should kick in when you get around 30mph.
ON20LBS Ok, I did the zip tie on just the spring and I’m getting 8-9 mph more! I had to mess with it a little, started out just a few MPH more, then just tightened a little more until I got to 27mph. No shutters or any weird sounds. I think I’ll just leave it now, not worth starting over for 2-3 more mph and possible rev issues. I’m pretty happy with this, dude! It’s amazing what 8-9mph will do, you can really tell the difference. I really appreciate it, man.
@@brianperkins17 Yes that’s what we’re going to try on ours as well just eight or 9 miles an hour would be plenty for us to
Can you call me. I'm having issues bad with mine
You're driving a car wrong if you don't mash the pedal getting onto a highway...
Yes…. But do you hold it there for the entire trip?