The Next Presidential Jet: The New $5B "Biden Force One"
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- Опубліковано 15 лют 2021
- Air Force One is one of the most recognizable call signs in the world. It refers to any US military aircraft carrying the serving US President. For over 30 years, this has been associated with two modified 747-200 aircraft.
These are set to change soon, though, with two new 747-8 aircraft under development. Obama ordered these, Trump made several changes and savings, but it will be President Biden who gets to fly first on them.
What do we know so far about these exciting new aircraft?
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Airbus aren't stupid. They declined application because they knew it would never happen. The US president in a non American built jet would never fly😂
Agree lol
@Libturds Suck surely it should be the best jet available that fits the jobs
@Libturds Suck yeah I know but for America it shouldn’t be fair enough it should be the best which is why I say airforce one should be a Cessna 172
gilbert It was because the Air Force chooses planes by specifications like range, floor area, and maximum takeoff weight. The politicians who decide what the Air Force buys chose based on American jobs.
Going by Boeing's recent record, he would likely have flown more!
No takers? I'll see myself out...
$5 Billion is the total PROGRAM COST, not the cost of the airplanes alone. Program cost is airframes, the modifications but also maintenance for a specified period of time. The Presidential aircraft are maintained on a 25% duty cycle for enhanced safety. Lets say a part is certified for 10,000 cycles on a commerical plane that part is replaced on the Presidential fleet at 2500 cycles. That enhanced safety regime is part of the Program Cost.
Finally a fact. Thank you
Don't let facts get in the way of a good antigovernmental rant by morons.
Thank you for this, so many people think that the government is wasting tax money on useless projects because the media told them so.
Literally said that in the video...
Still you can build an Aircraft carrier for around 5 billion.
“Biden force one”
We aren’t calling the 747s the Bush force now, are we?
Lol
Trump came up with the new design idea anyway
@@aviationbossandguitar1034 haha
Im a bit on the fence about the design.
It looks really good but you know we had the old design since forever.
@@aviationbossandguitar1034 I like the OLD design better. Anything that trump think up is GARBAGE
I think we should’ve kept the old livery since that would keep the tradition, but unfortunately Trump broke tradition like he always does.
I really think it needs to be derived from the 747 again. There's just a presence and prestige to them you can't get from other Boeing models.
Might just be me being a youngin, but I kinda seee the 747 as a grandma at this point, kinda like Queen Elizabeth
Might just be me being a youngin, but I kinda seee the 747 as a grandma at this point, kinda like Queen Elizabeth
Might just be me being a youngin, but I kinda seee the 747 as a grandma at this point, kinda like Queen Elizabeth
@@latenightthinker4737 HRH might be elderly, but she has staying power.
I agree. I've flown once on one and the flight was fabulous. The Boeing 747 and the L-1011 Tristar are my two favourite makes/models. and the 747 Airforce 1 is one beautiful plane. I hope they keep the present colour scheme. It's a powerful, yet understated look and shows undeniable good taste, Trumps colour scheme isn't bad but is still on the garish side.
It seems a little weird to get rid of in-air refueling, isn't that basically essential in the event of a war or if there's mechanical problems on board?
Yes, it is needed, but Trump did not do contingency planning or thoughtfulness very well.
I would think that if a plane had mechanical problems, the last thing the crew would want to do is put more fuel in. They'll want to get on the ground.
@@mikelowe5096 ,
Old USAF story of wanting more time to do airborne assessment and practice approaches at high altitude. They have refueled aircraft with problems to get them to better landing locations and to get more analysis time.
It may be that mid-air refueling presents some danger with close proximity to another large aircraft, more danger than having to land to fuel up. The idea of having 4 engines does provide more saftey, I would think, I think they will continue with the 747 platform for years to come. They have outstanding performance for such a large plane.
I guess they plan on relying on that doomsday air force one that is set up for use during war. I think there are several and are called E4b's. I remember during the 9/11 attacks there was talk of transferring president Bush to it. I think they are still around
Actually that 5 billion buys 2 of them.
The extra money is for the high tech security devices (like missles sensor) and internet, and direct phone calls
@@jordanla6453 ...and don't forget the new hangar at Andrews for them.
@@MetroDoc-he8zd yeah, considering the -8i's wingspan longer than her older sister flagships, the VC-25As (747-200B).
Plus a New Hangar to house the two of them.
@@jordanla6453 lol
Boeing is due to deliver it's last commercial 747's in 2022, to Atlas Air. A cargo airline. If the new Air Force One's are delivered in 2024, the will be the last 747's ever made. Which I guess is a more fitting end to one of the most iconic aircraft ever to fly.
The new air force one's are already a couple years old, originally to be delivered to a foreign carrier but canceled. The final atlas air 747's will be the last ones to roll out of the everett plant
The vc-25b's uses 2 already built 747's. Plus the conversions is not at everett. They will just be the last delivered 747's.
Not for the vegetable we have in the White House now. It's a shame.
Air Force One should definitely keep the same color format, because it is one of the most recognizable color schemes in the world.
The livery designed by Raymond Loewy and approved by Jacqueline Kennedy has flown the bodies of JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Reagan and George H. W. Bush. But Trump comes along and wants it changed to match his personal plane. If that doesn't prove to you what an egotistical, unpatriotic POS that man is, nothing will.
Jackie's design is gone. Trump Force 1 will be more patriotic and appropriate.
@@RevJim-qc2ry you just said it. That is nothing more than trying to copy his own pathetic failed airline paint scheme.
Agree keep same colors.
@@RevJim-qc2ry Don't mess with Airforce one colors alone!!! Besides we don't want any remembrance of Trump!
I think that it will be painted in the original scheme like the previous aircraft. Its very recognizable!
I hope that the planes are painted with the 60 year old iconic paint scheme.
Yes, the livery will be the same.
@@dartmaster501 Trump tried to change it to "his" plane colors .. ugh
Can we try and stop normalising this trend of calling every head of state’s private aircraft “(their name) force one”? It’s very irritating and inaccurate.
I think you should leave the people who spend the time on these videos to decide that.
@@nigelmarvin1387 Air Force One is the callsign for any aircraft which the president of the United States is on. Bearing in mind that the president exclusively travels on their VC-25’s then it’s acceptable to refer to those as Air Force One, but calling them Biden Force One just doesn’t make sense, and I think that has stemmed from when the media called the Royal Air Force A330MRTT which was painted into the United Kingdom livery “Boris Force One” which is even more bl**dy stupid because it has no link to the USAF, and isn’t even the plane for the prime minister of the UK, it’s first role when not being an aerial refueller is to transport the Monarch of the UK. Sorry for the rant but it’s infuriating how many people are misusing the “Air Force one” callsign.
@EIon Musk actually the airframes were purchased from Boeing, originally built for a Russian airline which collapsed before they could be delivered, but yes hopefully Trump will be back in office for his second term in 2024.
@@dylanminett8552 Boris Farce One is a better discription.
The Raymond Loewy designed livery is iconic and shouldn't be changed.
No way will Biden keep Trump's paint scheme
Why because a Democrat 1st lady over 59 years ago help design the colors in Democrat Blue?
@@turkey0165 the paint job is beautiful and iconic who cares about who was in power when it was created. everyone in the world knows what Air Force One looks like, changing it destroys the identity! What is next painting the Washington monument or changing the color of the white house to reflect the party of the president?
@Kelly Cornering Good story, now tell that to Brandon ! 😚
@@turkey0165 The military has already nixed the plan of the color scheme of Trump scheme.
On the basis of the keeping the aircraft cooling from overheating etc.
So it’ll be the same color scheme as originally designed.
1:55 while it is true that the average life expectancy for a 747 is 30 years, that is for one kept in commercial service. These planes have MUCH less usage than one flying every day for an airline. They should be able to get twice, if not more than that from these planes
Years isn't the only factor for aircraft lifespans.
So did the space shuttles, But; communist Obama put the USA out of space force by canceling it..
Instead of better management of NASA's budgets...
@@charlesbrownii5254 ok "Charles", I think you've had your fun for the day now, provoking the imperialist westerners 😒
Government aircraft don't get much flight cycles, but these aircraft gets still older. Airlines move on with new engine types, and 747-200 engines are not common any more. Spare parts get more expensive (the - 400 got a major overhaul including new wings and new engines, and a new cockpit, and has technically little to do with the - 200). Also you can't simple park it like a car, aircraft are made for flying. The German government A 340s got unreliable because they have been used too little, they suffered from a lot of defects while Lufthansa was operating the same 340-300s without such problems and with a good reliability.
@@charlesbrownii5254 Bush was the one that approved the retirement of the shuttles, Obama simply complied with it. Also the Space Shuttle was expensive and dangerous, and a deeply compromised design that NASA was happy to be rid of so it could focus on other projects, like Orion/SLS.
I thought the ability to refuel midair was a massive advantage of the jet, doesn't it seem like a big loss? I thought of it as a feature hopefully never to be used but the fact that it could gave power and security
I believe that the refueling capability was in case of Nuclear War (but Bunkers, not aircraft, are where you should be). With US Bases almost everywhere and engines far more efficient than the engines on the current aircraft, it may not be necessary for refueling.
If I were to bet money, I would guess that Mr. "Super Jenius" demanded to win a price negotiation so refueling was cut. I could be wrong but I'd place some coin on that bet if I could be sure to get the definitive answer on whether it was a factor.
Dubbed " Moron one"
AF1 has never mid-air refueled with POTUS on board, it was meant to be used in emergencies only, but it's not very practical in the modern era where a sub-launched ballistic missile could take out Andrews and the AF1 planes in under 10 minutes from 300+ miles away...
@@arcanondrum6543 Fair point it's probably a change in strategy to go under ground rather than above which I could see making more sense
@@conorcorrigan765 I suppose so but 300 miles really isn't that far either. Anti air has improved and it is where the Russians excel so maybe that's also why
Keep the traditional livery. It is classic and looks awesome. Why mess with perfection!
Yes. Especially because JFK chose it for the old 707 Air force one, so it is sort of a tribute to keep it.
I say move on to something new. Why live in the past?
Trump's color scheme proposal for the next Air Force One looks too much like a discount airline's livery. Keep Raymond Loewy's classic design or perhaps modify it a little.
Because it’s ugly and boring.
I like the new one. The other one is old.
The Dover AFB Mobility Command Museum should be the final home for one of these aircraft.
maybe uncle joe will send 'er home
The National Airforce Museum needs to be as well.
Bless you
The planes used as AF1 frequently practice touch and go landings at PHF. It is so neat to see the easily recognizable livery as it flys over Hampton Roads.
I used to see them 5 days a week at Andrew's AFB.
getting rid of air-to-air refueling is a huge mistake.....
Completely agree w/ Daniel Macphee.
@@nigelmarvin1387 it’s a backup If there’s a nuke attack
They bought already constructed planes. So they’d have to go back and retrofit it, and like Nigel says, it’s doubtful that they even use it now, so what would be the point. If you want to use it, you have to qualify your pilots (through both initial and recurring training) to use it. Plus… the bobbing and weaving of arial refueling is not the most comfortable experience to sit through. I know it makes many aircrew members sick and they do it for a living. They probably choose not to subject passengers to all of that if it isn’t necessary. The fewer sick passengers you have on the jet equates to the fewer sick passengers a maintainer has to clean up after.
@@militaryav8r Tbh, almost all of the retrofit on a plane such as Air Force One is a "what-if" scenario. What if you need a second APU on the ground? What if you have missiles fired against you? What if you need to take of steeply? When you include all this, you should really have in-air refuelling.
@@SouvikMukherjeeACFCOD none of what you mention involves additional pilot training requirements, the potential for damaging the aircraft in the process of that training, passenger discomfort… all for what gain? It’s a system that doesn’t seem to be used now anyways.
I have seen two of the former Air Force 1 planes. The one in Seattle and the one in Simi. The one in Simi Valley was stored in Riverside before it went there. I saw it in both places. Regarding the new ones lacking mid air fueling; I don't think they need it. Those planes can go 10,000 - 12,000 miles with full tanks.
Not to mention the cost of having the system for upkeep etc. Just wasn’t a priority of items needed. Instead the monies that it would cost they have spent the money on something else.
I grew up 30 minutes away from dc and most of the time I will get to see Blackhawks, Marine one, and Air force one fly over my city.
Keep the livery the way is. It’s more recognizable all over the planet.
And has the added virtue of not reminding us of Trump every time we see the aircraft.
Keep the current color scheme. It's a memorial to the Kennedys, who decided it... 😏
Yeah, don't trump it up.
@@stevengalloway8052 much better than a memorial of the Trump’s. We had a lot of reasons to be proud of this country back then.
The approach to Airbus was never anything more than an attempt to keep Boeing honest.
Key word being ‘attempt’....
@@bertjilk3456 Boeing laughed at that insanity. What military contractor has ever delivered below cost?
@@skipsassy1 Government contractor*. And everywhere, not only in the US. Governments always overpay. After all, they're not spending their own money. Little accountability.
The livery will stay as it is currently
Absolutely. Trump’s proposed livery wasn’t as gaudy or hideous as I expected, but nothing beats the current design. Why fix what isn’t broken?
It's definitely not "Biden Force One".
Just "Air Force One" when POTUS is aboard.
Big Jim says, "yassa you right boss!"
So easily triggered?
I love the 707 design with the black nose. Looks so cool.
Back in times black noses were because lack of radio wave transparent paints.
I flew on the presidential 707 in 1976. It was cool to have a flight steward and living room type seating. My tdy was airforce entertainment so our group was designated air force vip even as an enlisted folk as we all were. Musicians never had it so good. Flight was only a couple of hours. No stewardesses and no alcohol, no photos just a great memory.
Please don't change the color scheme. The air force one livery is amazing as it is
Its time for a change people will like it over time
i think it should look bland so nobody could tell what plane it is
The livery goes back to 1962. In that time, Delta changed it's livery 4 times. United changed its livery 5 times. American changed its livery 3 times.
It's an iconic livery, but the colors are very 1960s. Further the up-sweep of the sky blue looks fine on the 707. But, it's never looked right on the 747 with the upper deck.
My only problem with the new livery is that the flag on the tail is a little too big. It just comes across as too "in your face."
@@kentfrederick8929 Too in your face? Mate its the Americans. Their president has his own Jet for fucks sake. The size of the flag is as obnoxious as everything else.
@@13lochie :D
I was at the USAF museum in Ohio today on got to see one of the former Air Force One's, even got to tour the interior
I think the information you are telling us is like 10% of the the whole thing so I think good stuff that's amazing
For those that have to fly and fight in the air, there's a very good reason to have four engines and mid-air refueling for the President's plane.
Yeah, I think that was a mistake. I hope they put it back in the refit. He can't exactly catwalk across to the Doomsday Plane.
Senile 1... code name ... "The Big Guy"
@@ca6360 😂😂😂😂😂😂
You do have a point. Initially, I was thinking along the lines of a reconfigured Boeing 777 or the Boeing 787, because of their humongous ranges, but realised that 4 engines are needed for contingency purposes. It is the same reason that most of the presidential/diplomatic aircraft are 4 engined.
@@ca6360 Diaper 1 Trumps AF1
I don’t like the proposed new livery. It’s way too commercial and resembles past TWA and USAirways liveries.
It's Trump Trash Livery.
It looks Russian.
The new livery is classy ocean liner scheme while the baby blue is 60’ French
That livery is the livery trumps failed airline used... Thats the only reason he wanted it on air force 1...
@@TheGamingNorwegian That livery is the one on SS America, SS United States,
SS Normandie, RMS Queen Elizabeth
the
longstanding air force blue color scheme is classic with the Air Force.
To the best of my recollection, no previous version of Air Force One has ever been referred to -- even informally -- by the name of an individual President.
Why "Biden Force One" now?
Beau-just a stupid way to start a controversy.
That's what's called "Headline Hyperbole" - and it's something Long Haul knows very well.
There’s no way that new livery will ever be used. Nobody’s letting HIM design AF1.
I bet you think he cheated into office XD
Boeing! Quick, paint the jet now. Then charge Biden for changing to rainbow livery.
@EIon Musk His second consecutive jail term...
@@ytnsanw no his second presidential term
@@aerohk lol
KEEP THE TRADITIONAL PAINT SCHEME.
Boo crap green sux!
Jackie is credited with the color scheme but it was done to help the plane blend in with the sky depending on the angle it could be viewed from. I think Vanta Black would be cool for absorbing radar waves. But, it would get extremely hot. I like the idea of Boom making a presidential supersonic jet.
You dont know how Air planes cool down do you ?
In an interview years ago with A group of ex presidents. The interviewer asked what the best part of being president was. Bill Clinton answered with the agreement of the others, “ it’s that damn plane”!
“Get off my plane”
this will be the new Loilita express
@@mudgatebronn4438 Projecting much? The first thought that popped into your head? Seek help before you start acting out your sick fantasy.
@@mudgatebronn4438 Sorry, traitor trump is out of office
Best action presidential movie ever!
@@thesarge1969 Go wax Beijing bidens shitty Chevy. President Trump still uses the beast while your guy is in a Chevy fresh out of cash for clunkers.
As I understood at the time, Airbus was very pissed of at the biased tanker selection of the B767 over the A330 and decided not to put a bid in. They concluded their bid would only be used to lower Boeings price and would not thus be worth their effort.
Airbus is just not good tbh. I used an Airbus simulator. The side stick tho is just the single piece of trash that bugged me so much
@@outaouaishockey But that's just you not getting used to it. 1000s of pilots who fly them daily would disagree with you.
@@outaouaishockey so every Airbus is the same? I highly doubt that
There were many reasons why Airbus did not bid. One major reason was Airbus was not willing to cooperate on security. And two the USA government wanted it built on American soil.
@@BryanHobbsMcCalister airbus is also funded by foreign goverments, which is a security threat.
The new livery isn’t bad, but the classic livery is iconic. Plus we have other planes that use that scheme as well.
The new livery looks a little bit like the livery of the German government aircraft, even the new A 350s have this oldschool livery with the color strip running straight around the aircraft. In my opinion the classic AF1 livery looks more modern than the new one.
went through 27000 at the Reagan library- 707. One word? cramped. Packed like sardines. The presidential "office" is about the size of a postage stamp. The "bed" reminded me of a small two cushion love seat. I contemplated a trip from Washington to Moscow like Nixon and Reagan took using 707's. While looking around, I started feeling claustrophobic. I suppose that is one of the hazards of being commander in chief.
I had a couple different opportunities to see the current 747 Air Force One aircraft. In my younger days I was in Salina Kansas when these jets were being tested while still in their bright green primer paint. They did several touch and goes while I was on the ramp near by. Very impressive, especially to the young kid I was then. More recently President Obama made a visit to the small town where I now live so I got to see one of them pretty close again at my town's small little airport but now of course in full livery. Again, very impressive to the old guy I am now.
The original color scheme was created by industrial designer Raymond Loewy. It has changed slightly through the years as new aircraft were delivered. Many think that the Kennedy 707 was the first and only 707 until the new 747 based Air Force One was delivered, there were 2 others. You can see subtle changes upon each delivery. The livery for the new jets to be delivered in 2024 should stay the same. It is instantly recognizable as Air Force One, and has always represented the United States well. As far as which presidential libraries should be given the 2 jets available, George W Bush, And Barack Obama should, in my opinion be selected since they had the jets for 2 eight year terms.
@@homelessnomad101 Fair enough. What is your point?
8:57 as far as the livery or color scheme goes, I would stick with the traditional blue/white colors and paint job design but with some minor red color incorporated into it
i hope the Air Force One paint wont change because I like the current one
The classic paint scheme was historic, it should never have been changed. The current paint looks like a common low budget airline.
Goodbye to Jackie's color of weakness, that awful baby blue.
Because it is, the color scheme is strikingly similar to a certain president's bankrupted airline
I'm not opposed to a new paint scheme, but agree the current proposal looks rather ordinary.
The new design is much more patriotic for America
trumps new color scheme looks too much like Putin’s plane. The current scheme is ICONIC! It’s known around the world! We don’t need Putin Force Two
Fortunately, it will almost certainly end up in the beautiful current paint scheme, not the proposed "update" that harkened back to the last one TWA had before they went bankrupt.
What is TWA, sorry?
@@wilkgr Trans World Airlines
@@stevencramsie9172 Ohh I see, thank you!
It will be the same.
Bankrupt? That red stripe is borrowed from the Trump Shuttle. Not quite bankrupt: Trump bought it for $350 million, sold it for $150 million. You know, very stable genius stuff.
Keep the original paint! No need to change that.
Hardened fuselage shell? So basically rebuilding the thing from scratch. And don’t mess with the Raymond Loewy paint scheme.
Leg Hair Force One
@@bilalrashid5355 Leg hair is manliness. how dare you insult it
@@bilalrashid5355 learn definitions of words before you throw them around please
@@bilalrashid5355 lighten up
@@bilalrashid5355 cornpop was a bad dude, plus minorities don’t know how to use the internet.
@@bilalrashid5355 Making fun of the President is bigotry now, please stop punching down.
I hope Biden keeps the old colour scheme for Air Force One the light blue and white I like it.
Severe case of "resistance to change"!
trump was gonna put his trump logo on the side of AF1...if he got reelected...and part the blue paint job so that it covered all the top of AF1...lol
I have to agree, AF1 in that stupid Trump paint scheme would just be a reminder of one of America's biggest mistakes. Keep the light blue scheme.
Yeah, it won't take a lot of thought to *not* go with the Tackiest Rich Guy In America's color schemes or interior 'designs,' ... his own homes look like they're meant to impress Russian mobsters, which perhaps they were. Besides it's bad enough Trump demolished Jackie O's Rose Garden, he's not getting another of her now-symbols-of-America to despoil. Besides, there's kind of a big restoring-normalcy theme to a lot of Biden's moves, so it'll be standard color scheme and some sensible interior fittings, I think. I'm sure someone'll pick out something classy enough. :)
I'd be shocked if he didn't maintain the Kennedy-era livery. Much prettier and it's iconic at this point.
I like the idea of having at least one supersonic airplane accessible to the President! Boom Supersonic, are you up for the task? It would make quite an entrance!
Everything a president can do in person he can also do in a phone call or virtual meeting.
@@christopherbriggs9526 You can't hold the Saudi glowing ball.
787 would have been a world class platform for world leaders
1.) 5 billion is cheap considering that includes two units as well as testing and the hanger.
2.) They should have kept the refueling system.
3.) The older livery looks better than the mind-blowingly antique looking livery Trump suggested.
4.) However i think the older livery isn't all that great either.
5.) They should cut down on the additional expenses to make it more luxurious and redirect those savings to make the craft more secure and advanced.
That’s the best comment I’ve seen here 👍🏽
Imagine had they finished the wall? Resources already spent would have paid for this project
Jen Psaki was asked about the color of Air Force One. She said she’d get back to reporters. Any updates?
she has to circle back
@norman-m [KANDAGAIGO] aha! Yeah three years is a long time
Pretty sure she circled back on that one.
I heard it was touch and go
With the Democrats on board it should be flying a Nazi symbol
Hard to believe the current models only have one APU. In almost every disaster type crash it seems the APU is put out of commission in half of them and is mandatory for controls to landing the plane.
Secondary APU's are redundant on commercial aircraft due to the passive redundancy provided by the RATs these days. The Ram Air Turbine is plenty adequate for emergency power.
a380 for AirForceOne would be epic
I hope Biden keeps the traditional livery. It's classy.
I’m not American I’m British and I’m a fan of the Air Force one Plane
I don’t like the New Livery
It should stay the same as it is now
I agree. Maybe tweak it a little, but I like the color scheme.
They need to change the blue to match the flag and add some red
@@collinoverby68 Eh, I kind of prefer it to look different to the flag. Marine one is green and white, Air Force one is blue and white.
Fitting a Stennah stairlift would be mission critical.
Is that for your use?😒
Interesting that they are not including the mid ear refueling. I would like to see the classic livery used with maybe a few minor tweaks.
I think a B777X would be a cool replacement for the Air Force One 😊
Return to the traditional color scheme. It what makes so well recognized and respected (not always the occupant) in the world
Especially the current IDIOT occupant that we have now!
Agreed. There was no reason to change it. It was classy - even on a train for Bush's last ride it looked great.
@@reelclosetrucking6925 k
@@reelclosetrucking6925
Trump's been out of office since 20 Jan.
@@vaffangool9196 , If you would...SHOW ME, where in my comment did I mention the GREAT PRESIDENT TRUMP! I’ll be awaiting your reply there BALLSACK! Speak RELEVANT OR DONT SPEAK AT ALL!
The current 747 presidential aircraft were built in 1987 and finished in 1990. They were built from the ground up. These already manufactured aircraft are going to be more expensive than aircraft built from the ground up. Conversions are very difficult because they have to contend with structure that is already there.
The US Air Force would have been better off ordering two brand new 7478 aircraft built from the ground up. They would not have to cut the fuselage open in certain spots for certain doors and anti-missile technology assemblies.
If they keep the traditional livery, the should modernize it a bit.
I think but I am not sure, you can retro fit an AR system into an existing airframe.
Building an Airbus for Air Force One would have been absolutely asinine - I'm glad that's not going to happen. Nothing against Airbus but Air Force One needs to be American made.
It would have been American made, regardless of whether it went to Airbus or Boeing.
As a pilot who has flown both, Airbus is a better product. But nothing is more beautiful than a 747.
Air Force 1 is a CALLSIGN, not a jet. :)
its also a shoe :)
@@ultra_01 lmao
Any Aircraft carrying the President has the call Sign Air Force One and any Helicopter has the call Sign Marine One.
@@JaxomUK bush even had a jet that had the call sign of Navy 1 on his flight to the vessel he flow to. Think he was the one who even flew the aircraft himself. Long time ago and can’t remember all the details.
@@alaskan3304 I remember that and I do believe he did fly it but left the landing to the pilot as catching that wire isn't easy
Any information on the AF 1 is good..
"this is so expensive"
*wants the interior to be much more lavish.*
I wonder if there will be a president eject system like the movie Air Force One
I’m afraid that’s classified.
Hitler had one!
@@oxcart4172 Oh yeah I remember. His own chute!
No that's not possible 😂
DT stated he talked to the Pentagon, and they told him "apparently" that's too much revealing to terrorists and to expensive to add to a stored aircraft, that would be cool tho
List of BBJ747-8i;
1. Oman: A4O-HMS,
2. China: B-2480
3. Brunei: V8-BKH
4. Morocco:CN-MBH (ex A6-PFA)
5. Turkey: TC-TRK (ex VQ-BSK)
6. Qatar: A7-HBJ
7. Qatar: A7-HHE
8. Qatar A7-HHF (ex A6-PFB)
9. Kuwait: 9K-GAA
10. Saudi: HZ-HMS1
11. South Korea: HL-7643
12. Boeing: N828BA
The upcoming Air Force One/ VC-25B (ex Transaero):
13. USA: N894BA (ex EI-MOW)
14. USA: N895BA (ex EI-TSO)
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List of ACJ350;
1. 10+03 A350-900; German Luftwaffe "Kurt Schumacher"
2. 10+04 A350-900; German Luftwaffe
3. D-AKAY; K5-Aviation
4. EC-NOI; World2Fly Spain
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List of ACJ340-600;
1. Azerbaijan; 4K-AI08
2. Sky Prime; HZ-SKY
3. Air X Charter; 9H-FFC
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List of ACJ340-500
1. Saudi Royal Flight; T7-SAU
2. Qatar Amiri Flight; A7-HHH
3. Royal Thai Air Force; HS-TYV
4. Aeronautica Militare (Italian Air Force); I-TALY
5. Turkey; TC-CAN (ex: TS-KRT)
6. Algeria; 7T-VPP
7. Kuwait; 9K-GBA
8. Kuwait; 9K-GBB
9. Las Vegas Sands Corporation; VP-BMS
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List of Special 747SP;
1. A9C-HAK; Bahrain Royal Flight (ex; A6-ZSN)
2. VQ-BMS; Las Vegas Sands (ex; A9C-HMH)
3. VP-BLK; Las Vegas Sands (ex; A992MS & A6-SMR)
4. VP-BAT; CSDS Aircraft Sales & Leasing (ex; Worldwide Aircraft Holding)
5. P4-FSH; Ernest Angley Ministries (ex; A6-SMM)
6. A4O-SO; Oman Royal Flight
7. C-FPAW, Pratt & Whitney flying testbed
8. N747A; NASA Armstrong Flight Research Center
9. N747NA; NASA SOFIA
10. HZ-HM1B; Saudi Royal Flight
11. HZ-HM1C; Saudi Royal Flight
12. HZ-AIF; Saudi Royal Flight
13. YI-ALM; Iraq
14. C-GTFF; Pratt & Whitney Engine Services
15. C-FPAW; Pratt & Whitney Engine Services
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List of Government & Private 777;
1. 4K-AI001 777-200LR; Azerbaijan
2. S2-AHM 777-300ER; Bangladesh
4. TR-KPR 777-200; Gabon
5. VT-ALV 777-300ER; Air India One
6. VT-ALW 777-300ER; Air India One
7. PK-GIG 777-300ER; Indonesia Presidential Flight
8. YI-AQZ 777-200LR; Iraq
9. 80-1111 777-300ER; Japan Air Self Defence Force
10. 80-1112 777-300ER; Japan Air Self Defence Force
11. HZ-MF9 777-300ER; Saudi Arabian Government
12. EZ-A777 777-200LR; Turkmenistan
13. A6-ALN 777-200ER; UAE Presidential Flight (ex; VP-BRH)
14. A6-SIL 777-300ER; UAE Presidential Flight
15. N777UK 777-200ER; Bank Of Utah/ Access Industries
16. VP-CAL 777-200LR; Prince Mohammed bin Fahd al Saud
17. P4-SKN 777-200LR; Equatorial Guinea
18. P4-XTL 777-200LR; Comlux Aruba/Crystal Skye
19. N777AS 777-200ER; Mid-East Jet
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List of BBJ787;
1. A6-PFC 787-8; UAE Presidential
2. A6-PFE 787-9; UAE Presidential
3. A6-PFG 787-9; UAE Presidential
4. A6-PFH 787-9; UAE Presidential
5. P4-787 787-8; Comlux Aruba
6. XC-MEX 787-8; Mexico
7. N507BJ 787-8; South Korea
8. N947BA 787-8; TVPX Trust Services
9. HZ-MF7 787-8; Saudi Ministry of Finance & Economy
10. HZ-MF8 787-8; Saudi Ministry of Finance & Economy
11. 2-DEER 787-8; Royal Jet
12. P4-BDL 787-8; Global Jet Luxembourg
13. V8-OAS 787-8; Brunei
14. UK001 787-8; Uzbekistan
15. N8906W 787-9; Wilmington Trust Company
16. N8903W 787-9; Wilmington Trust Company
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Ernest Angley ministries! I'm choking over here. Know where the money is, great tax laws, legal con artists, can remember him on the TV from when I was a kid, whining, sniveling weasel. Many more like him. Well God said send me money too or he'll strike me dead! If you send it you'll be enriched 10 fold... A sucker born every minute.
You missed United Arab Emirates government BBJ747-8 but nice list otherwise.
@@user-dc4bl1cu2k both were transferred to Morocco & Qatar
I hope not, I love the current design!
It better have cup holders and air con for that price
Years ago, changed from "Andrews AFB" to "Joint Base Andrews"
This has been the most accurate coverage of VC-25B that I have seen!!!
I heard nothing of the refrigerators...
Trump: "It too pricey doh."
Bitch, it's meant to get the president through everything short of a thermonuclear fireball. You think that 5 billion is all going to the decorations?
Not having in air refueling capability is seen as a weakness if war does break out for obvious reasons !
This would be a very tragic mistake if they leave that refueling feature out. But, who am I to say? I am just a lowly tax-payer.
The new livery looks like I was designed by Colgate
Trump picked new colors which are the same color of his company plane.
hahaha
lmao
Also the same as the Russian Flag.
@@keithm9513 you realize they are the same as the American flag right? Idiot!
Trump: I refuse to fly on a $4Billion aircraft
Also Trump: I want bigger beds and a lavish interior
This is absolutely paradoxical
Trump has his own luxury 757 😂
@Bro Momento exactly 😂
I would doubt that when it rolls out it doesn't have mid air refueling
Should keep in-flight refueling (seems idiotic to remove that), and should have a presidential escape pod. Worked for Harrison Ford, so good enough for any president.
If they are telling us all this, I wonder what they are not telling us.
Yeah, you’re a real fucking deep thinker huh
That everything is reliant on a 13 amp fuse somewhere probably.
@@davidhawkshaw4542 🤣👌
Each 747 will feature a MacBook capable of connecting to an alien mothership and disabling it.
It has a Romulan cloaking device.
Stay with long standing colorscheme.
its old and played out.
@@MichaelWilliams-ur3te I beg your pardon. It was overseen by Jackie Kennedy. It was a time of elegance, poise, charm and duty - cut short by fifty years of needless war, greed and corruption. Our last president personified this ... and wanted everyone loyal, and everything to pay tribute, to him - hence his chosen new paint scheme (one curiously similar to his 757). Finally, Jackie's rose garden was destroyed by a lackluster ex-hooker. Thanks, but no thanks - I'll take a paint scheme that is a legacy symbol of our country's virtues, not its failings.
@@ian_btv Its a very 60s style theme and looks pretty bland now. It be nice to see a red whit and blue plane with some gold. Its a more modern 21st century look.
@@MichaelWilliams-ur3te .... you are 100% correct. The old livery is worn out & extremely old-fashioned. It's time for a change, and time to move into a new decade & century. Update the livery!
it’s old and tacky as fuck
Maybe a Concorde might be the next after the 747’s
I hope they make the livery on the aircraft beautiful, creative, and worthy. Something like Boeing’s own fuselage graphics. Hire a good graphic designer. 🙌🏽
Typical government nonsense
You bid on something and say "Hey, it will cost you $10"
Later, they say, "I forgot to include salaries for the builders, money for buying parts, money for ordering the electronics. It will actually cost $100,000,000,000,000,000"
Government officials - "OK, makes sense"
Only when they're spending other people's money.
The costs are inline with commercial aircraft development costs. A derivativere of an existing model is going to cost around $3.5 billion to certify to FAA civil requirements. The Planes will cost around $600 million each to produce plus another hundred or two for hangers and ground support equipment.
...it's the Treasury's Money, and it's controlled by the Federal Reserve, it ain't Your Money.. Your Name isn't on it, it belongs to the Treasury Department, which own all The Federal Reserves Notes. You only Own the items, labor, debts or property you purchase or trade with them. They print about 50 Billion a week, every year.
@Assassin Mongoose.....not so. All money that government spends is either borrowed or collected via taxes. Even "treasury" money is debt that in theory must be paid back from the taxpayers.
If not, please have them send the hundreds of thousands of dollars I've paid in federal taxes alone.
@@escapedfromnewyork but wait. Didn’t Joey just say that the 3.5 or 5 trillion dollars won’t cost us anything? He said it’d be Zero Dollars. He needs to go back into his basement or Hunter is sharing some of his drugs!
Trump got Boeing to give a cost price on the contract. Boeing can't charge any more for the two Air Force One's they are building. They are complaining they can't charge more because all of the costs have gone up. I'm sure they will tack the overages on to some other military hardware. Maybe a screwdriver
CONGRESSIONAL TERM LIMITS NOW!!
I believe the new aircrafts will be painted in the iconic blue and white livery.
( FYI ) . . The color of Airforce 1 will remain the same. The dark blue color on the underneath draws too much heat.
Remember when people got pissed that trump was gonna renovate air force one lol
He’s the one who approved it. You really need to listen
No
What a fool.
Only thing we didn’t like was him wanting to change the livery.
@@Rich-ke7sq WRONG! This was Barry's purchase!
Revert the livery color scheme back to the original
@calkinsb0713 yeah the Trump Shuttle livery has to go
The trump one is ugly.
It's the first time AF1 has been outfitted with a wheelchair, walker, and an adult changing table.
Mid-air refueling might seem essential but a standard 747-8 can fly for 17-18 hours with regular fuel capacity and perhaps much longer if it was attempting to stay aloft and not trying to get to a specific destination - flying for max endurance vs. flying for maximum range. The air force 1 version of the 747-8 probably has additional fuel capacity too.
Maybe the president wants to fly all around the world, permanently, so the sun never rises.
If you’re not considering a potential nuclear war situation, then I would agree. But nuclear war is not over in less than 24 hours. And a standoff where nuclear war may happen could last for weeks.
The new livery is more patriotic 🇺🇲
I do wish they keep the Jackie Kennedy livery, rather than switch them over to what kinda looks like a flying toothpaste container.
Love your description!!
💯 percent!
@Anthony Martin (You’re being sarcastic, right? Cause otherwise, first of all, what the heck, and second of all, pardon?)
@@voxpopuli8957 it is a very pretty livery, but the US, just all other things american, are not changing, and we need to have an updated paint job. I'm good for even solid white with striped tail and rear fuselage, or a simplified American airforce style Boeing House Livery. The current scheme is 60 years old. Showing up in a new livery will show the world we are progressing, not staying in the past.
@@norfolksouthernrailworks1543 I don’t really see how this will change our image to the world. If other nations really notice the change, it may just as easily show to them that Trump, who is deeply unpopular among all of our allies, had an impact. I doubt they will see any meaning behind it as American progressing, just based upon which administration created and designed the new style.
That's more than a space shuttle.
Have they installed a chair lift?
In 1961, Jackie Kennedy enlisted the services of famed industrial designer Raymond Loewy to design a new livery for Air Force One. His design remains to this day. After 60 years, the design looks as fresh as ever and should never be altered.
Indeed.
100% AGREE
100% Disagree. Red White and Blue.
@@robertblack7352 Should we repaint Marine 1 and the beast while we’re at it? Just shove red white and blue every where we possibly can? Sometimes it’s okay to not have something that uses those colors.
@@DerCharacter AF1 is special. I really love the new livery look.
The a380 would never be a Air Force plane because resin number one [ITS NOT MADE IN AMERICA]
Well it's limited to what airports it could fly into and besides that, it's an ugly looking aircraft
It also looks ugly with the livery
I don’t think boring parts are made in china
Boeing I mean
@Night Rider most parts cant come from china or the planes would have a massive tariff. my father used to work for a Boeing contractor in la.
also, imagine trying to get any quality control from china to comply with faa regulations ,it ain't gonna happen
Current color shame is iconic. Should stay the same. Refuelling option can never be a bad thing?
I suspect minimum flamboyance, and hope paint remains same.