Maybe 6 28mm cannons or something else I cooked up special might tickle your fancies.. Maybe a missile bay in the underbelly of the grand lady... U remember the cowboy days when ladies carried them tiny little 2 shot sweethearts in their garter stockings? Aviation is only limited by a lack of imagination & innovation... I worked a life time to see visions of.....
A standard 747-8 doesn't have an overheating problem regardless of color. Most of the costs, and this possible overheating if real, would be due to the extensive and complicated modifications done to the basic hull after it left Everett.
Over heating from what? I would suspect any exterior heat gain would come from the sun. As I doubt Air Force One will spend much time flying upside down this shouldn’t be a problem. The air temperature at altitude will be around -40° F anyway. Sounds like more of the misinformation we live with daily!
- Agreed, sounds like rubbish to me. If the dark was on top of the fuselage, certainly (IIRC, Hugh Hefner’s “Big Bunny” DC-9 had some issues, being painted all black). Underside - plenty of airlines operate with dark undersides, in part because it hides the dirt and grime that accumulates on the belly (and you’d be surprised just how much accumulates down there).
@@MrHabs - That is somewhat more believable, but whether it’s white, grey, light blue, whatever - it’s still a 747 and still fairly visible when at lower altitudes.
Unfortunately, the cost of refitting these aircraft have cost more than building it from scratch, due to the removal of existing components and wiring to add updated and custom components (to meet FAA requirements, communication, computing equipment, etc...). The cost was fixed so additional expense is on Boeing's dime (they took a bath).
While working as a Qantas aircraft mechanic, I was there when President Clinton's AF1 arrived at Sydney airport in Nov 1996, it parked just outside the hanger I was in and we were able to get a close look at it before being chased away. Being summer at the time the forward cargo door was open and the entire forward cargo bay was full of screens and electronic equipment with 6 or 7 guys working in there, so I can understand how overheating could be a issue. On the regular 747 this area is normally used for oxygen bottles, a/c ducts and of course cargo.
You mentioned the cost of the maintenance and flight manuals. These aircraft require a huge library of manuals. I imagine that with the additional features of this aircraft the library is much bigger than the average military aircraft.
Capin Kirk & I R on this entire deal.. It'll all work out.... My biggest feature design is to thwart boneheads like Biden from even working a coffee maker.... I'll keep ya posted Ok...
@@olddog103 As far as I am concerned as post Iraq war vet as well as being a Navy Marine A&P most air craft even in the military should all have on line manuals as well as published fatigue and recall data accompanied by service numbers. All civilian aircraft MFGs should have on line manuals as well as failure points too. There is so much data missing from commercial aviation it is sickening. Just think about how easy it would be if the auto MFGs of the world would create a QR card for all makes of models of consumer cars and light trucks so that when ya go for service ya hand the card to the service vendor and poof no more 50 questions standing there at a service counter. All the data is right there on that card about the car including past service history. Wouldn't that be something? I'm a real aviation engineer and a deep thinking one. Part of why Boeing and I parted ways on bad terms 5 years ago. Every mistake they made I already predicted it years before it actually happened.
What a load of bull! Black paint causing heating problems at 40k ft? Biden won't fly in them simply because it was a Trump agenda item! Go to the beach .. forever girly-man!!
the new paint scheme should be scraped ! the colors that AirForce One has been flying with should remain ! These colors are recognized around the world !!
I thought they didn’t have to build the two replacements because they were Twp 747’s that a Russian airline canceled an order, so the6 were available . They just have to outfit them and put security devices in them , correct?
Wiring is installed while a plane is being built. Since so much new wiring is required, they have to basically rebuild parts of the planes. Brand new planes likely would have been cheaper and faster to configure.
Oh, interesting! Boeing VC-25B USAF Executive Transport, militarised version of the Boeing 747-8. No such plane has the designation "Air Force One". This is the call sign of any USAF aircraft transporting the POTUS.
I find it difficult to believe that some dark paint on the underbelly could or would cause cooling issues for the plane. Dark blue on the engine cowls causing some sort of heat issues seems highly unlikely to me. Way back when, United and British Airlines had their livery dark gray on top and dark blue on the bottom half. That did cause issues with cooling when their planes were in warm to hot areas around the globe. AF1 will have twin APUs and three A/C Cooling Packs. Those twin A/C packs will generate somewhere between 180-360 KVA and supply more than adequate air volume to run multiple A/C packs and keep the interior and all electronics cool. The engine cowlings are made of honeycomb, and Kevlar typically. There isn't much underneath them that can be affected or compromised. I worked on 747s for years. I find those mentioned issues to be Red Herrings more than anything else. The current livery was Jackie Kennedy's creation. It's time for an update and futuristic livery. The current livery is about 60 years old. It's time for a new livery! ❤
Sorry, I’ve ALWAYS hated that robin’s egg crap. I know I’m probably the minority on that one, but I think the current paint sucks and has ever since it was put on during the Kennedy administration. JMO, so take it for exactly what it’s worth.
And the refueling equipment was only used a couple of times since the 747 AF-1 took flight- it has officially been scrapped to help with other related weight and complexity problems.
@fredericrike5974 actually the refueling option has never been used on those aircraft while they were Air Force one. They may have possibly used it when the president was on board, though there's no information to be found to confirm that. The reason they've never used the in-flight refueling option, is because the Air Force and the Secret Service is extremely concerned about the dangers involved with mid-air refueling with such large aircraft and the president on board
Joes going to be in his floatie ducky cuz he’s going to ban fossile fuel. He’ll be floating across the Atlantic Ocean then riding his bicycle the rest of the way.
Biden is so incompetent he wouldn't know the difference of the new Air Force One from a Ford Pinto. Joe Biden is grounded thanks to Pelosi and the 36 Democrats that said he was "not all there" ! ! !
@@WarDaddy66 Joe just wants to chill and have some double chocolate chip fudge ice-cream. He ain't got much else on his mind, except maybe a sniff of your daughter's hair. Then he's good.
The UA-cam video "Boeing Regrets AF1 Contract" from 6 months ago has good info on AF1. At 2':26 to end has a 747-8 landing and taxi in with livery similar to current AF1. Currently, expected delivery is mid-decade. Hopefully, we will have better choices than a 78 and 82 year olds.
If you can find someone who is as intelligent and business smart as President Trump, and loves this country as much as he does i'll agree with you. However i do not see anyone on the horizon who fits the bill.
@@MrDynafxdc Intelligent - seriously! He is just the opposite in my view and much of what he says are completely fabricated lies. The man has serious narcissism and a very thin skin.
@@JohnSmith-mz5oe so you're telling me you rather have a mentally unstable and pedophile like president who sniffs kids and can't process information properly and blurts random sentences due to Alsheimer's (don't say its a lie because there's numerus videos of him doing it) or someone who although does do some money laundering has the ability to think properly and do what is best for the country's situation although not perfect he can still execute the plan and make it work and although most leaders don't like trump they respect him because they know he's an alright Politian unlike Mr. Biden, considering he stumbles speaking in front of crowds every time he's doing a speech.
Joe Biden won't need to be on the new Air Force One. He's been "grounded" by his team for incompetence. If Joe was going to be on Air Force One they need to install The Stairlift" chair to get his sleepy ass up those stairs.
I'm italian and not involved in any internal problem of the United States. I believe the usual old livery allow you to understand immediately you stand in front of United States of America and not a commercial plane, because it is an historical representation is going on for decades on different planes as well as VC-32 currently in use. New supposed colors gives me more a feeling of a fancy private jet that perfectly pair Trump everyday attitude of flying, but american people do not care to much about history and, especially these days, do not understand history cannot be changed, it's history written with blood on white stones past times, learn from it and try to make a better future. Better future is not granted must be conquered with good will and respectable ideas
I think Capin Kirk is one those mods as we speak,,,, I'll get back to ya on what else we cook up.. Raytheon is adding some splendid ideas even me Capin Kirk I didn't think. Scratch that last transmission... Joe Biden won't even be able to work the coffee maker we are all making sure of it..
The presidential jet has to be by necessity completely unarmed because any enemy nation could use shooting it down as a defensive action. ...and they'd be right. Flying an armed jet over their territory would be seen as an act of aggression.
that was just the best excuse obam, I mean biden could come up with why the term Air Force One only applies to the US President, & the USAF has NEVER granted that call sign to Obiden.
@@allthatjazz641 Nonsense. Every Biden flight has been radio callsign Air Force One apart from the visit to Europe for Ukraine trip when it flew as SAM060 to hide the identifty. Stop falling for silly nonsense peddled by scammers and grifters on click to donate websites. The no AF1 on flight trackers/transponders started on Trump's watch during March 2020. It started with Trump's domestic AF1 flights after the drone attack on the Iranian General in Iraq. The security measure of no AF1 on transponders for the majority of the flights started on Trump's watch during March 2020 and continues with Biden. Even Trump's last flight on AF1 on 20th January 2021 was not showing as AF1 on the transponder.
It’s TOO futuristic. While the old design is exactly that-old, some wood isn’t a bad idea. Also bleach white is great in fashion and maybe apartment walls so there’s no crazy paint jobs. It would be easier on the eyes to take it down one color level from stark white. Maybe coffee creamer white. Not crazy about the lights under the chairs. This isn’t the USS Enterprise (the flying Enterprise not the floating Enterprise). In an effort to upgrade the plane which I’m ok with, I’m not in favor of going so futuristic that s few touches of something more homey looking aren’t a bad idea. Maybe they throw in some “no sunlight” plants!
That scheme goes back to 1962. Raymond Loewy, working with First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy, designed it for the Boeing 707 # 26000, the first jet transport designed and built specifically for a POTUS.
Trump's paint scheme was rejected. The two replacement 747s for current AF1 will fly in a paint scheme chosen by Biden. It is a slightly lighter Blue than current AF1.
Sorry, I HATE that 1950’s-esque robin’s egg vomit crap. I have always though it was a shitty paint scheme (and I know I’m probably the minority on that, but I hate it).
@@bradcrosier1332 that's to bad you don't like the traditional color of Air Force One. But if they do change it. Just don't change the color of the white house.
@@markyamaguchi9571 - To each their own. I just hate Robin's Egg color on pretty much anything except a Robin's egg - it looks like a freaking 1950's kitchen that desperately needs updating.
@@robincarter56 They have to get parts from aircraft graveyards for the old one. That's not good when it comes to carrying the leader of the free world. The new engines are much more fuel efficient.
ANYTHING is better than what drumpf drew on a piece of construction paper with his crayola crayons. The traditional colors are much better and represent grown up thinking and design.
Honestly funny how the new livery colors cause heating problem! I do find it very smart of Trump to actually go out there and find never flown planes that would be reused for AF1 rather than spending a lot more money. Still very strange how Biden won't fly on it despite it being much flashier.
You believe everything you watch? The new AF1 VC-25B aircraft won't be complete till September 2026 at earliest And Trump purchase took away air to air refuelling which limits AF1 security.
@@v1800e He doesn't wan't to fly it because it's a Trump project but knowing him he doesn't really get much work done for this country so what difference does it make? 😂
The darker colors and red paint make the skin hotter and the plane a more visible target for heat-seeking missiles or manned fighter aircraft. The Orange loser 45 didn't "find" the Whitetail aircraft that Boeing had for Russia - Russia was just doing what IQ45 would do - refusing to pay for the aircraft. So Boeing parked them, and later offered them as a way to lower costs on the Presidential Aircraft Replacement program. IQ45 also insisted on extra freezers for that kitchen, which required re-engineering and re-certifying jet engines that carried multiple generators to supply the extra power required. So rather than be able utilize any 747 engine to repair the plane, taxpayers are funding a very limited number of custom made engines for these planes. At least they took out all the Gold plating that IQ45 and Melania wanted to use to pimp the interior out.
I have to say that the colour scheme looks great, except for the flag on the tail. In my opinion, the flag should be blended into the tail, maybe even appear 3 dimensional. If the stars are 25 each side of the tail's leading edge, then the stripes can have a flowing design behind the stars. That will make it look much more sophisticated and bold! What's shown looks like a bumper sticker.
@@kenhurley4441 The N prefix is for commercial and civilian aircraft in the US. Over the weekend saw SAM 29000 flying in or local pattern doing touch and goes at a former USAF base, it is one of two VC-25As which carry the POTUS and other VIP's.
I like the idea of keeping the old livery in honor of Jackie Kennedy and her sacrifice for this country. Just add a few new touches. Personally I'd like to see a row of gold stars down the sides - that kind of stuff.
Here’s my comment: I don’t care what it is, who flies in it, what colour it is, how much it cost, nothing! Have a good day everyone from Sydney Australia 🇦🇺
@@veronicababy7959you have a valid point! I had forgotten that I wrote this, I must have been pissed off with something at the time! Lol 😂. I’m going to have another look at the video. Have a good day. PS: I had another look. Reasonable video, but the voice is very irritating. It looks like Trump will get to fly in it! Lol
You know then President Clinton insisted the real Air Force One doesn't have an escape pod (like in the movie) but even the President is on a need-to-know basis regarding Top Secret sorts of things so the feature can't be completely ruled out.
Not offensive 'rocket launchers' . . . offensive MISSILE LAUNCHERS! That requires bomb bays somewhere. The new Air Force One will not have aerial refueling capability. Most overheating problems can be handled with a NACA intake and a heat exchanger.
Airforce one cannot stay in the air indefinitely, because the engines will require an oil change after ~7-8 days. Unless it has a lubricating oil replacement system on board, it will have to land. And you have to ask the question, why no solar panels, or arrays of small wind turbines, and why does it use hydrocarbon fuel? None of that matters, because it will still need to land at some point for an oil change. Don't you just hate those pesky rotating thingies!
It looks like 70s airport lounge, sofas, and chairs. The desks are plastic and cheap. Just because somethings new does not mean it’s better. And why does anybody think that Air Force One has to have bling? It should be all functional and who cares if the carpet matches the drapes
I love how in the thumbnail they point at the landing lights like it’s something special
Maybe 6 28mm cannons or something else I cooked up special might tickle your fancies.. Maybe a missile bay in the underbelly of the grand lady... U remember the cowboy days when ladies carried them tiny little 2 shot sweethearts in their garter stockings? Aviation is only limited by a lack of imagination & innovation... I worked a life time to see visions of.....
ISLAM IS A NAME OF CANCER WE NEED TO LEARN FROM CHINA. QURAN IS BED BOOK IN THE WORLD. ISLAM IS A MOTHER OF ALL TARROIST
exactly - laser landing lights? lol
Overheating problems? I wonder how other users of the 747 overcame that problem, while flying with darker colors on the underside of their planes?
A standard 747-8 doesn't have an overheating problem regardless of color. Most of the costs, and this possible overheating if real, would be due to the extensive and complicated modifications done to the basic hull after it left Everett.
Over heating from what? I would suspect any exterior heat gain would come from the sun. As I doubt Air Force One will spend much time flying upside down this shouldn’t be a problem. The air temperature at altitude will be around -40° F anyway. Sounds like more of the misinformation we live with daily!
- Agreed, sounds like rubbish to me. If the dark was on top of the fuselage, certainly (IIRC, Hugh Hefner’s “Big Bunny” DC-9 had some issues, being painted all black). Underside - plenty of airlines operate with dark undersides, in part because it hides the dirt and grime that accumulates on the belly (and you’d be surprised just how much accumulates down there).
It's really not a matter of overheating. It's a matter of it being identifiable from the surface. Gotta have it white or grey.
@@MrHabs - That is somewhat more believable, but whether it’s white, grey, light blue, whatever - it’s still a 747 and still fairly visible when at lower altitudes.
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I believe it because it impossible to cook on electric.
Unfortunately, the cost of refitting these aircraft have cost more than building it from scratch, due to the removal of existing components and wiring to add updated and custom components (to meet FAA requirements, communication, computing equipment, etc...).
The cost was fixed so additional expense is on Boeing's dime (they took a bath).
The old color has to stay. It’s ICONIC
Nahh.. it looks funny. Trumps design looks more dominant
The old livery is staying.
@@dexz8721 How'd that work out for you?
@@dexz8721 Trump's looks like the Russian flag
@@forexed8948 Still living in your fake dreams i see.
While working as a Qantas aircraft mechanic, I was there when President Clinton's AF1 arrived at Sydney airport in Nov 1996, it parked just outside the hanger I was in and we were able to get a close look at it before being chased away.
Being summer at the time the forward cargo door was open and the entire forward cargo bay was full of screens and electronic equipment with 6 or 7 guys working in there, so I can understand how overheating could be a issue.
On the regular 747 this area is normally used for oxygen bottles, a/c ducts and of course cargo.
I saw the same plane in 96 too. AF1 is an amazing sight when it takes off.
Sure, but overheating due to a paint scheme, when plenty of other 747 operators have similar or darker tones? I think not.
@@nancyz5841 747 engine mechanic here - not really, its like any other 747 , except maybe louder due to its older engines
I agree with Monty, I still prefer the old paint job
You mentioned the cost of the maintenance and flight manuals. These aircraft require a huge library of manuals. I imagine that with the additional features of this aircraft the library is much bigger than the average military aircraft.
Capin Kirk & I R on this entire deal.. It'll all work out.... My biggest feature design is to thwart boneheads like Biden from even working a coffee maker.... I'll keep ya posted Ok...
Flight manuals and support equipment often are far more expensive than the original aircraft.
@@olddog103 As far as I am concerned as post Iraq war vet as well as being a Navy Marine A&P most air craft even in the military should all have on line manuals as well as published fatigue and recall data accompanied by service numbers. All civilian aircraft MFGs should have on line manuals as well as failure points too. There is so much data missing from commercial aviation it is sickening. Just think about how easy it would be if the auto MFGs of the world would create a QR card for all makes of models of consumer cars and light trucks so that when ya go for service ya hand the card to the service vendor and poof no more 50 questions standing there at a service counter. All the data is right there on that card about the car including past service history. Wouldn't that be something? I'm a real aviation engineer and a deep thinking one. Part of why Boeing and I parted ways on bad terms 5 years ago. Every mistake they made I already predicted it years before it actually happened.
Worth every penny !
Dark Blue over heating?! SR71 and B2 LOL on the tarmac 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was thinking the Same thing. And I think hilarious Biden won't fly it.
Its all the EXTRA electronic it will have !! DUUUUUHHHH !!! Pay attention !!!
Do you know how cold it is at 30k feet...
What a load of bull! Black paint causing heating problems at 40k ft? Biden won't fly in them simply because it was a Trump agenda item! Go to the beach .. forever girly-man!!
You've got the color wrong. The new AF ONES are going to once again be baby blue on the bottom, just like the current ones.
This is correct. That pos tried to match his private plane and…LOST.
@veronicababy7959 Yeah well I'm all but convinced that said POS will be voted back into Ths Oval here in Nov '24. So sad whats becoming of America.
Yea the changed their minds but the colors trump wanted were part of the original deal
@@marcusmelancon3426 yeah, not so much. The color change came years after the deal was inked and signed with Boeing.
@@veronicababy7959how ya feeling today?? Are you still with us??😂😂😂😂
That paint design should never change
It was that idiot Trump trying to change it to look like his private plane. POS.
It's 1960s.
the new paint scheme should be scraped ! the colors that AirForce One has been flying with should remain ! These colors are recognized around the world !!
But isn't that a little dangerous?
Thank GOD they will maintain their original livery and not the trump scheme.
why? both look great. do you have tds?
trumps sucks not even close I could care less about that Con man. lol
I thought they didn’t have to build the two replacements because they were Twp 747’s that a Russian airline canceled an order, so the6 were available . They just have to outfit them and put security devices in them , correct?
Correct BUT the problem is that have to disassemble a lot of the plane to install all the extra equipment !!!
it would of actually been cheaper to build fresh ones i believe the problem at the moment is space for all the extra wiring into an existing setup
Wiring is installed while a plane is being built. Since so much new wiring is required, they have to basically rebuild parts of the planes. Brand new planes likely would have been cheaper and faster to configure.
correct
They could consider keeping the belly polished aluminum or painted white THEN blue above that 💙
Oh, interesting!
Boeing VC-25B USAF Executive Transport, militarised version of the Boeing 747-8.
No such plane has the designation "Air Force One". This is the call sign of any USAF aircraft transporting the POTUS.
That is not the livery of the new Air Force One! It’s staying the same light blue livery as its’ always been!
Thank goodness I hate the new livery idea. Sorry President Trump. Stick with the classic.
I hope it still gets a fresh design though.
@@galvinstanley3235 ifs not it’s already painted
I find it difficult to believe that some dark paint on the underbelly could or would cause cooling issues for the plane. Dark blue on the engine cowls causing some sort of heat issues seems highly unlikely to me.
Way back when, United and British Airlines had their livery dark gray on top and dark blue on the bottom half. That did cause issues with cooling when their planes were in warm to hot areas around the globe.
AF1 will have twin APUs and three A/C Cooling Packs. Those twin A/C packs will generate somewhere between 180-360 KVA and supply more than adequate air volume to run multiple A/C packs and keep the interior and all electronics cool. The engine cowlings are made of honeycomb, and Kevlar typically. There isn't much underneath them that can be affected or compromised.
I worked on 747s for years. I find those mentioned issues to be Red Herrings more than anything else. The current livery was Jackie Kennedy's creation. It's time for an update and futuristic livery. The current livery is about 60 years old. It's time for a new livery! ❤
@@walterkcolson1 Either way it’s not going to be the ugly Trumpling livery!
The old color scheme is much more outstanding than the proposed colors.
Sorry, I’ve ALWAYS hated that robin’s egg crap. I know I’m probably the minority on that one, but I think the current paint sucks and has ever since it was put on during the Kennedy administration. JMO, so take it for exactly what it’s worth.
The old one looks like crap compared to the new one
I like the new one, tbh
As far as I know Biden reversed Trumps livery and going back to the classic Kennedy colors (which is odd since this video was posted 2 months ago)
Lol the new one destroys the pastel turd. Let the pantshitter keep the old one.
My nephew just got selected to be an Airforce One crew member. He has to be trained for a year then he goes on board
They were trying to hire me as crew too. Then that stupid schmuck from Boeing figured out I was one of the engineer he hired....
@jokivitch you gave nothing to the conversation. Dude was a b52 crew chief In Louisiana and now on Air Force One team idiot
Congratulations
good for him, that's a nice earned privilege.
An airforce one crew under the biden administration🙄😒
The current aircraft can’t stay airborne “indefinitely”. The engines need oil after several days of continuous use.
Do they tend to burn oil after flying for several days??
And the refueling equipment was only used a couple of times since the 747 AF-1 took flight- it has officially been scrapped to help with other related weight and complexity problems.
That and trump needed more McDonald's. When trump eats beef, is that considered cannibalism?
@fredericrike5974 actually the refueling option has never been used on those aircraft while they were Air Force one. They may have possibly used it when the president was on board, though there's no information to be found to confirm that.
The reason they've never used the in-flight refueling option, is because the Air Force and the Secret Service is extremely concerned about the dangers involved with mid-air refueling with such large aircraft and the president on board
@@two6520well do you consider a cannibalism when you eat?
I prefer previous paint job. Now it looks like the plane is owned by Amtrak
I doubt the new paint scheme is "in granite" .
Joe would fly in it if it had an escalator
Joes going to be in his floatie ducky cuz he’s going to ban fossile fuel. He’ll be floating across the Atlantic Ocean then riding his bicycle the rest of the way.
Biden is so incompetent he wouldn't know the difference of the new Air Force One from a Ford Pinto.
Joe Biden is grounded thanks to Pelosi and the 36 Democrats that said he was "not all there" ! ! !
"Joe's old" reference.
How droll.
But then again, ya got nothing else.
Now Donnie is the OLDEST candidate EVER!
Good luck with that
@@CalTxDude at least Trump can walk up stairs
@@WarDaddy66 Joe just wants to chill and have some double chocolate chip fudge ice-cream. He ain't got much else on his mind, except maybe a sniff of your daughter's hair. Then he's good.
The UA-cam video "Boeing Regrets AF1 Contract" from 6 months ago has good info on AF1. At 2':26 to end has a 747-8 landing and taxi in with livery similar to current AF1. Currently, expected delivery is mid-decade. Hopefully, we will have better choices than a 78 and 82 year olds.
If you can find someone who is as intelligent and business smart as President Trump, and loves this country as much as he does i'll agree with you. However i do not see anyone on the horizon who fits the bill.
@@MrDynafxdc Intelligent - seriously! He is just the opposite in my view and much of what he says are completely fabricated lies. The man has serious narcissism and a very thin skin.
Trump still has his abilities.
ISLAM IS A NAME OF CANCER WE NEED TO LEARN FROM CHINA. QURAN IS BED BOOK IN THE WORLD. ISLAM IS A MOTHER OF ALL TARROIST
@@JohnSmith-mz5oe so you're telling me you rather have a mentally unstable and pedophile like president who sniffs kids and can't process information properly and blurts random sentences due to Alsheimer's (don't say its a lie because there's numerus videos of him doing it) or someone who although does do some money laundering has the ability to think properly and do what is best for the country's situation although not perfect he can still execute the plan and make it work and although most leaders don't like trump they respect him because they know he's an alright Politian unlike Mr. Biden, considering he stumbles speaking in front of crowds every time he's doing a speech.
UPPP YOU ALSO FORGOT THAT THE BAFFOON WONT FALL DOWN THE STAIRS 😂😂😂
old man shouting
Joe Biden won't need to be on the new Air Force One. He's been "grounded" by his team for incompetence.
If Joe was going to be on Air Force One they need to install The Stairlift" chair to get his sleepy ass up those
stairs.
Air Force One should keep the same outside color logo. The new version looks like a commercial airline! 🤑
I'm italian and not involved in any internal problem of the United States. I believe the usual old livery allow you to understand immediately you stand in front of United States of America and not a commercial plane, because it is an historical representation is going on for decades on different planes as well as VC-32 currently in use. New supposed colors gives me more a feeling of a fancy private jet that perfectly pair Trump everyday attitude of flying, but american people do not care to much about history and, especially these days, do not understand history cannot be changed, it's history written with blood on white stones past times, learn from it and try to make a better future. Better future is not granted must be conquered with good will and respectable ideas
THANKS A LOT , IT HAVE ALWAYS BEEN LIGHT BLUE AND WHITE IT NEEDS TO STAY THAT WAY.
The AF-1 should be equipped with state-of-art laser-based “active defense system” and flight capability into outer space command and control center.
They do have a missile blinding laser defense like the one developed by Israel for all their airliners.
I think Capin Kirk is one those mods as we speak,,,, I'll get back to ya on what else we cook up.. Raytheon is adding some splendid ideas even me Capin Kirk I didn't think. Scratch that last transmission... Joe Biden won't even be able to work the coffee maker we are all making sure of it..
Photon torpedos too…
The presidential jet has to be by necessity completely unarmed because any enemy nation could use shooting it down as a defensive action. ...and they'd be right. Flying an armed jet over their territory would be seen as an act of aggression.
You don't need that if the plane can jam missiles from a distance,but it has to be the best jamming equipment to date.
I like the classics. But I think the new paint job is beautiful.
The exterior color scheme is stunning .
We are moving into an era of great peace and prosperity ! A splendid future. This plane is the future.
I wonder how Air New Zealand manages to fly black planes and not have heating issues?
that was just the best excuse obam, I mean biden could come up with why the term Air Force One only applies to the US President, & the USAF has NEVER granted that call sign to Obiden.
@@allthatjazz641 no public schools where you grew up..??
air new zealand doesnt have the equipment that AF-1 has... if you actually watched the video it was explained..
@@allthatjazz641 Any USAF aircraft carrying WHOEVER is POTUS is AF1. End of story.
@@allthatjazz641 Nonsense. Every Biden flight has been radio callsign Air Force One apart from the visit to Europe for Ukraine trip when it flew as SAM060 to hide the identifty. Stop falling for silly nonsense peddled by scammers and grifters on click to donate websites. The no AF1 on flight trackers/transponders started on Trump's watch during March 2020. It started with Trump's domestic AF1 flights after the drone attack on the Iranian General in Iraq. The security measure of no AF1 on transponders for the majority of the flights started on Trump's watch during March 2020 and continues with Biden. Even Trump's last flight on AF1 on 20th January 2021 was not showing as AF1 on the transponder.
The interiors look so cold in white and black. Some warmth and colour would be enjoyed by crew and passengers.
It’s TOO futuristic. While the old design is exactly that-old, some wood isn’t a bad idea. Also bleach white is great in fashion and maybe apartment walls so there’s no crazy paint jobs. It would be easier on the eyes to take it down one color level from stark white. Maybe coffee creamer white. Not crazy about the lights under the chairs. This isn’t the USS Enterprise (the flying Enterprise not the floating Enterprise). In an effort to upgrade the plane which I’m ok with, I’m not in favor of going so futuristic that s few touches of something more homey looking aren’t a bad idea. Maybe they throw in some “no sunlight” plants!
minimalism is never cold - its stunning
*Got to keep the cool old-school blue 🩵 egg shell livery paint job!* Wouldn’t mind a new sleek logo 🛡️. A king size bed would work.
That scheme goes back to 1962. Raymond Loewy, working with First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy, designed it for the Boeing 707 # 26000, the first jet transport designed and built specifically for a POTUS.
A stripper pole in the bedroom for Kamala.???
But she will never win in 2024 so let's skip that idea..
The new paint scheme looks great. It was time for a change. I liked the old one too though.
Unfortunately having a dark underbelly makes it visible from the ground. It's gotta be white or blue o grey.
Trump's paint scheme was rejected. The two replacement 747s for current AF1 will fly in a paint scheme chosen by Biden. It is a slightly lighter Blue than current AF1.
@MrHabs I guarantee you the visibility or non visibility of the aircraft has very little to do with why they don't want it painted a darker color.😂😂
the new proposed one was by trump, that's been stratched, staying with the original.
Looks like Commander Straker's office from the Sci fi show U.F.O.
I like the old paint job.
Same
Biden has confirmed that they’re going to keep the JFK colors.
The old one is too tacky
I don’t really like the old paint job
Yes! Keep the the original traditional colors of Air Force One
You mean the sissy colors that aren't even the colors of our nations Flag! Should be red, white and blue !!
Sorry, I HATE that 1950’s-esque robin’s egg vomit crap. I have always though it was a shitty paint scheme (and I know I’m probably the minority on that, but I hate it).
@@bradcrosier1332 that's to bad you don't like the traditional color of Air Force One. But if they do change it. Just don't change the color of the white house.
@@bradcrosier1332 😔
@@markyamaguchi9571 - To each their own. I just hate Robin's Egg color on pretty much anything except a Robin's egg - it looks like a freaking 1950's kitchen that desperately needs updating.
The plane isn't getting the in-flight refueling option. It's on the current planes but has never been used in the 30 years that they have been flying.
That's good. The old Air Force one is well put together and gets good mileage. It's always good to have the capability to refuel in mid-air.
@@robincarter56 They have to get parts from aircraft graveyards for the old one. That's not good when it comes to carrying the leader of the free world. The new engines are much more fuel efficient.
@@bobthebikerny They have to get graveyard parts for Biden at this point. The guy is clueless.
He needs a reboot.
I like the new colors - Red/ White and Blue
Lame, overheating problems. Its not a supersonic plane.
when i was a radio mechanic i got into some of the FAA avionics changes! fun fun!!
They should have stayed with the same outside colors. Everyone knows this. The new paint system looks like a commercial airplane. 🤔 🇺🇲
Yes. It is iconic. The whole world knows that is our presidential plane.
I really really don’t like the new paint job. Previous version is beautiful!!!
Trump's paint scheme was rejected. Biden selected a Blue scheme.
nah outdated, the new livery looks more American, RED WHITE & BLUE
2 will cost 5.4b. But now 1 new and 1 old but never flown will cost 5b. Okay. Okay lets digest that for a min
Let's Go Brandon!
Thank you for supporting President Biden! 👍🏻
@@keirfarnum6811 Biden / Fetterman 2024!
@@jsldj why because ur a robot? 😂
The darker color on the underside is not causing heating problems. That’s a garbage excuse.
ANYTHING is better than what drumpf drew on a piece of construction paper with his crayola crayons. The traditional colors are much better and represent grown up thinking and design.
You are ignorant
My understanding is that the current AF1 has two full kitchens, not just areas to warm up preprepared meals.
Honestly funny how the new livery colors cause heating problem! I do find it very smart of Trump to actually go out there and find never flown planes that would be reused for AF1 rather than spending a lot more money. Still very strange how Biden won't fly on it despite it being much flashier.
You believe everything you watch?
The new AF1 VC-25B aircraft won't be complete till September 2026 at earliest
And Trump purchase took away air to air refuelling which limits AF1 security.
Perhaps because the replacement aircraft will not be available for a few years?
@@v1800e He doesn't wan't to fly it because it's a Trump project but knowing him he doesn't really get much work done for this country so what difference does it make? 😂
Trump and smart is an oxymoron
The darker colors and red paint make the skin hotter and the plane a more visible target for heat-seeking missiles or manned fighter aircraft. The Orange loser 45 didn't "find" the Whitetail aircraft that Boeing had for Russia - Russia was just doing what IQ45 would do - refusing to pay for the aircraft. So Boeing parked them, and later offered them as a way to lower costs on the Presidential Aircraft Replacement program.
IQ45 also insisted on extra freezers for that kitchen, which required re-engineering and re-certifying jet engines that carried multiple generators to supply the extra power required. So rather than be able utilize any 747 engine to repair the plane, taxpayers are funding a very limited number of custom made engines for these planes.
At least they took out all the Gold plating that IQ45 and Melania wanted to use to pimp the interior out.
Just one thing about the paint job. Its better having a light sky color on the bottom so its harder to see from the ground due to security.
Thank you Pres Trump and Elon Musk for SAVING TONNES OF MONEY geeatly for your love to this country!
All I can say is President Trump is full of hot air and “helping out the common man”.
Is it electric powered?
The $3.9 billion went to BOEING!
Hello mate i like your videos
Our Country has bigger problems than a new fancy jet…
True but the old ones are 30 years old !!!
Boeing does not make parts for the current aircraft. They stopped flying years ago.
We still need a new one though
One of the problem's is our president doesn't have a new jet,new jet means better jamming equipment,and better medical treatment for our president.
yup, wokes, democrats and actors who think they can actually think...
I have to say that the colour scheme looks great, except for the flag on the tail. In my opinion, the flag should be blended into the tail, maybe even appear 3 dimensional. If the stars are 25 each side of the tail's leading edge, then the stripes can have a flowing design behind the stars. That will make it look much more sophisticated and bold! What's shown looks like a bumper sticker.
The new AF-1 will have white engine shrouds instead of the dark blue for thermal reasons.
it isn't Air Force One until the POTUS is onboard its known as VC-25C
It'll have an "N" number on it designated to the USA.
@@kenhurley4441 Military aircraft do NOT have 'N' numbers. Do some googling..
@@kenhurley4441 that's civilian aviation only military does not
VC-25B
@@kenhurley4441 The N prefix is for commercial and civilian aircraft in the US. Over the weekend saw SAM 29000 flying in or local pattern doing touch and goes at a former USAF base, it is one of two VC-25As which carry the POTUS and other VIP's.
Air Force one is being replaced by a updated version?
I like the idea of keeping the old livery in honor of Jackie Kennedy and her sacrifice for this country. Just add a few new touches. Personally I'd like to see a row of gold stars down the sides - that kind of stuff.
A gold star for every country the Biden administration has provided aid for instead of the country he serves.
I'm so glad Biden overruled the Trump color scheme.
Here’s my comment: I don’t care what it is, who flies in it, what colour it is, how much it cost, nothing! Have a good day everyone from Sydney Australia 🇦🇺
@@scottlewisparsons9551 and yet you cared enough to write this?
@@veronicababy7959you have a valid point! I had forgotten that I wrote this, I must have been pissed off with something at the time! Lol 😂. I’m going to have another look at the video. Have a good day. PS: I had another look. Reasonable video, but the voice is very irritating. It looks like Trump will get to fly in it! Lol
My New Air Force One Royal 🇺🇸
The announcer's voice is annoying. YOU'RE FIRED!
And why the dark blue on the bottom instead of the way military aircraft used to be camouflaged with looking from above and looking from below?
A normal sized 747 is way to small ..
i demand boeing builds him a 747-9 for an even bigger entourage
In that thumbnail thats a landing light and that is something every plane has
Nice paint job. Love it.
This information is not correct about the paint scheme . . . Check for accuracy on the latest info!
Why! Somebody that Trump dose not like will change. Well imagine my shock.
The new AF One needs an escaped pod for the President and First Lady for the 747-8 intercontinental model.
Did you mean incontinent model?
@@antoniocliffuk it’s called intercontinental because it can travel between continents
Escape from New York style?
You know then President Clinton insisted the real Air Force One doesn't have an escape pod (like in the movie) but even the President is on a need-to-know basis regarding Top Secret sorts of things so the feature can't be completely ruled out.
@@captainobvious6668yeah that's kind of dumb because literally every 7:47 out there can travel between continents.😂😂
A beautiful new B 747 for the GOAT President. It will be nice to see the old 747s in museums ❤😂
Orville and Wilbur would be proud!
I prefer the lighter blue livery. The design was more appealing.
Glad they did away with that stupid "top knot" for midair refueling.
Beautiful and truly classy. ❤😊🇺🇸. President Donald J. Trump and First Lady deserve it. 🌎😊
Neither of them are in office anymore.
"President Biden is refusing to fly in it..." At this point I clicked out of this silliness.
Biden won't have to fly in a Trump plane. He's been grounded------------------------permanently.
Same colors as Trumps private plane just reversed. Hmm
Trumps plane is black. But yea.. its reversed
It's actually a good thing, that Sniff won't fly on it. That way, Trump won't have to have it fumigated, when he comes back.
You have the incorrect paint scheme on the new AF-1. They're sticking with the traditional livery.
Will FJB still be able to stumble UP the stairs? Will they have a assisted living center for demented FJB?
Your statement is slanderous.
They gonna put a escalator in just for him 😂
We all know why Brandon won't use Air Force One. He can't walk up more than 10 steps in one go!
These planes will have an drop down elevator ordered by Trump
😂
You believe everything you watch?
The new AF1 VC-25B aircraft won't be complete till September 2026 at earliest
but he can trip up about three at once, so shouldn’t be a problem
Who?
Hey can they make a new AF1 that requires it only be flown by Biden? That would make for one heck of great show.
That paint job is just an inversion of the paint job on trump's 757. Keep that crap off of Airforce 1.
Boeing is not building 747’s. They are remodeling 747 purchased from Korean air.
Not offensive 'rocket launchers' . . . offensive MISSILE LAUNCHERS! That requires bomb bays somewhere. The new Air Force One will not have aerial refueling capability. Most overheating problems can be handled with a NACA intake and a heat exchanger.
Airforce one cannot stay in the air indefinitely, because the engines will require an oil change after ~7-8 days. Unless it has a lubricating oil replacement system on board, it will have to land. And you have to ask the question, why no solar panels, or arrays of small wind turbines, and why does it use hydrocarbon fuel? None of that matters, because it will still need to land at some point for an oil change. Don't you just hate those pesky rotating thingies!
THEY ARE NOT SHOWING HIGH BYPASS ENGINES. PROBABLY A MISTAKE.
Add an escalator so the old man doesn't have to climb stairs. I am younger than he is and I don't like stairs, 'course I don't fall down them.
It looks like 70s airport lounge, sofas, and chairs. The desks are plastic and cheap. Just because somethings new does not mean it’s better. And why does anybody think that Air Force One has to have bling? It should be all functional and who cares if the carpet matches the drapes
The SHOUTER.
Joe doesn't like the planes because they don't have escalators that go super super slow .
It was a shame that Trump’s AF1 didn’t have a toilet paper removals hook for after his bathroom stents.
4:55 I highly doubt AF1 can survive a nuclear blast itself. It's certainly protected from its EMP pulse, though.
The stairs are slippery ?
The helicopter's could also be replaced with something new.
FJB ……………………..🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸👍
Classic paint job looks way the fuck better anyway
That classic is Jackie O. She picked the baby blue. It’s time for a change and the red white and blue looks modern and American
Stop with the stupid, corny, “smash that like!” call outs. It just makes you want to NOT hit the button…
Please change back to the original, classic colors. The new ones STINK! The current colors are iconic!
Darker paint tones cause engines to overheat?? Someone better tell that to Air New Zealand before they paint one of their 777's black.......Oh, wait.
As a former TWA Captain I love to see AF1 in TWA colors 😍
As an old retired airline worker, I loved TWA colors when they were red & white. Sorry TWA went bankrupt. It should have never happened.
Marvelous 👍