By far one of my favorite reviews. I really appreciate that you take the time to go through each detail thoroughly. It's rare these days! Thanks again.
Thank you for your review Alex. Your review was one reason I bought the Ioniq. For my use case, 100km (62 miles) /day, it's perfect. Even for long drives I find the quick charging to be spectacular! It can charge at up to 70kw! Impressive! Now with the warmer weather I'm seeing 220km (136 miles) on a regular basis. Other drivers on facebook are reporting up to 250km (155 miles).
The efficiency is quite commendable. Norwegian EV nut Bjorn Nyland roadtrips Tesla for thousands of KM all over the EU and while he prefers his Model X, he has nothing but praises for the Ioniq EV. My only real reservation is the small 28kWh battery, which is smaller than almost any EV on sale today; Focus Electric 33kWh, e-Golf 36kWh and unfortunately gets eclipsed by the 2019 Leaf 40kWh battery. The efficient performance only goes so far once winter hits when the heater drains the juice rapidly, and North America simply still lacks a decent DC Fast charging network (and Tesla's proprietary Supercharger can't be used by anybody else)
The humble 28kwh Ioniq is far more efficient that the Nissan Leaf 40kwh. Due to its next generation ZF final reduction gear and its improved aerodynamics it can easily achieve 150 miles per charge in mild conditions. Given the rush to larger batteries, these cars could become very good used/ pre registered bargains in today’s market.
On charging, it is worth noting that the Ioniq supports 100 kW charging and has been shown to get over 70 kW in real-world use. This means you can charge up to 80% within 20 minutes, which somewhat negates some of the smaller battery size and nothing else but a Tesla is faster at charging. Also, the Ioniq is much more efficient at highway speeds than any other EV. Although 100 kW charging doesn't really exist yet in the U.S., I suspect that that will be remedied in 2018.
@Sergey Yevtukh Exactly. While the Bolt adds 90 miles in 1 hour, the Ioniq adds 90 miles in 20-23 minutes in real-world use. The charging speed on the Bolt severely limits its use on long road-trips.
That's wrong, the Bolt can charge at 80Kwh, there are no CCS charging stations I know of that can charge at that rate. As it stands today it goes 90 miles on a 30 minute charge. The max for CHAdeMO is 62.5 kWh so even if it has 100 kWh charging it's not available. So it gains nothing. The difference is that I can slow down in the Bolt and go well over 300 miles to find a station, you can't do that in a 130 mile range EV. Remember you have to get to the charger. Yes, this will all change in the next couple of years and we'll all benefit.
Makes me wonder why these companies do not include Fast Charging with all cars as standard. It's almost as if they want people to charge these things with crappy 110V plugs.
OK, do you own an EV? I lived for 6 mos with just the 110V charger and I'm not alone. I just bought a 16A Level 2 charger not the 32A charger. So I can charge at home in about 16 hours to full charge. But you rarely need to charge to full, most times it's much less. EVs are so convenient that you just get home and plug in. Range anxiety and not enough charging stations is fossil fuel industry propaganda, don't buy it. The cost and wok to put in a charging station at your local super market is low, and easy. You're not putting tanks in the ground that a truck has to come and fill on a regular basis. As more EVs arrive those charging stations will grow and grow. Do a search for EV charging stations and see how they have grown all over the country so far.
Just spoken to a UK dealer, and they say that there is no stoke for the whole of the UK, and that the only number expected in March 2018 is 100 cars, yes 100 cars I can't believe this amazing car is being let down by its manufacture commitment. There are not even demo cars anyware near to where I live!!!!!!
Hmmm, should we expect a Bolt review coming soon? You mention some solid figures and experiences with the Bolt. I'd be really interested in that. I'm thinking a used Bolt in a few years will probably be my next car.
Very good review. Tried this and e-golf. Golf drives much better and has much better material inside. But its much more expensive once you start adding options. Hyundai options all together cost the same as just leather seat for eGold almost.
Test drove the Bolt here in northeastern PA. Even though we told the salesman we were happy LEAF owners looking for our next EV, he still tried to talk us out of electric! These dealers really need to get their heads out of their butts. They are insulting customers. And I wouldn't buy from a dealer who doesn't believe in nor under stand the EV product because I won't get good after sale support. I will definitely buy another EV, I just need to find the right dealer.
Dealers don’t make money on oil changes and air filter changes if you buy an EV. Dealers are actually SMART to push gasoline cars (more profit from future service needs) .
Few people who actually live in a city ever travel outside of it when not working. Range seems good, but the hybrid engine will be used on the highway, so Ioniq seens a good alternative to straight EV. Looks are subjective; once upon a time people liked tail find on their cars. All modern cars seem to look like Hyundai's now
Having driven a 2016 LEAF SL for almost two years, we are long over 'range anxiety.' We know we don't need, nor want to pay for, 200~300 mile range. So we are looking at the Ionic and 2018 LEAF. It would be great to see a comparison of those two. I've not yet reviewed the Honda Clarity, but 90 mile range isn't enough for our family. But we'll have to try the eGolf.
Bjorn Nyland (the Norvegian with the Tesla Model X) made a good walk-around of the Nissan Leaf 2018, he also talked to the chief-engineer of Nissan (google it). 40 kWh, 150 miles EPA range, a bulge at the rear seats, more for 4 people than 5. The only complaint I have is that it still won't have an active battery (fan) cooling like the Ioniq has. Everything besides that it will be an excellent car for its price! Only announced, but not yet specified, is the long-range version of the Ioniq. If it will be good and for a good price, well, it will be the best of all, since all that the current Ioniq lacks are some additional 30 or better 50% of battery size. Golf-E is a good competitor with lot of passenger space, a good German build, but is quite sluggish on fast charging as it charges at only some 30-32 kW max (
If your climate is not to hot and you can leave your car mostly in the shade, Leaf 2018 should be a good option. If it would stay more often in the sun, it shouldn't be at a high state of charge, I would suggest not more than 70%. On a long trip - well, Bjorn Nyland tested the current Leaf with the 30 kWh battery and it was close to overheating on a 500 km trip at (spring) temperatures between 12 and 20 degrees Celsius. Ioniq has an excellent efficiency so the E-Golf, although having a slightly bigger battery, has almost the same range. A German (unfortunately in German) did a head-to-head comparison and in many details the Ioniq was slightly better, it also won his vote, but he also added that the build of the Golf was better. Me, now, I'd take the the Ioniq. The fast-charger 100 kW support is an investment for the future, it draws 60-70 kW and 0-80% in 23 minutes. As this is not so often available, it takes 30-35 minutes on 50 kW CCS (with about 44 kW charging speed), for the same amount, not so bad either. The current Leaf is slightly slower, we'll see how good the new one does. With the Leaf 2018? I drive to vacation in summer for some 500-600 km above 30C - it would be a tough call. In my case I would probably stick with the Hyundai. In the end, it's your decision. Nice to get a feedback and I am glad I could help!
Yes that is a promo but Ioniq EVs are very rare compared to the ICE cars. My local dealerships don't have any new in stock. Same situation with e-golf no stock available for purchase.
I'm a Toyota guy, but this is a better car than the Prius. Better-looking, lower-priced, handling and nicer interior with more legroom I think real-world MPG will be a wash, but this is better at being a car
The true competing EVs are Bolt, Ioniq and the coming Leaf 2018. Bolt has the range on single charge, Ioniq the efficiency and the possibility to charge at 100 kW CCS, Leaf the range between both of them (40 kWh), the only drawback is it will lack active battery cooling. All of them are reasonably priced EVs, all have some plus-es and minus-es.
Alex, it would be ever so helpful if you started addressing whether or not rear passenger windows rolled down all the way or not. Nobody does that. It can be a deal breaker for those of us that have dogs.
Imagine how much money youre going to spend on gas... Fuel has been going up lately and will probably continue to do so. At least its a mildly decent Toyota.
@@samusaran7317 Well, here's an update. I made the mistake of being stopped in traffic right infront of some ladies cell phone. 4 cars totaled including mine. It did so well at taking damage, I was only beat up a little. So I bought a newer one and it gets even better mpg. Todayls cars are improving all the time and have been for many decades.
I think the second place finish is a being generous. As a California-only car, it's not really an option for most Americans. At least the 2018 Leaf will be a 50 state car, as are the Bolt, model 3 and i3. Also, I think it worth mentioning that public DC chargers are almost always dual standard, so in practice it doesn't matter if the car has CCS or ChaDeMo.
quizzley7 what's stopping you from going to California to buy a car? A lot of people went to California to buy the bolt when it was only available there.
Theoretically possible, but not practical. I don't think you will be able to find a Hyundai dealer who is willing to help you do that, while there were plenty of Chevy dealers who did help people here get Bolts early.. Unlike the Bolt, the Ioniq EV is never going to be sold here, so dealers are reluctant to service it. The shipping and sales tax costs would be high as well. There's a big difference between getting a car a few months before it will be sold near you and getting a car that will never be sold near you.
Question in general about regenerative breaking; say you hit the paddle to aggressively regen, do your brake lights turn on? Seems you would decelerate quite a bit in this mode.
Hybrid $22,000+ Plug in $25,000+ (your estimate) I hope your right but that is a "too good to be true " kind of number for the plug-in. How did you get that estimate? I'm going for the Niro plug-in. Do you think $25,000+ is plausible?
Why do you reduce the price of the vehicle by the tax credit? Isn't the tax credit nonrefundable? Meaning that if my tax liability is less than the tax credit I will lose the rest of the credit.
Yes, this is true. However, you have to make about $47,000 for your federal income tax liability (this ignores FICA, so actually probably lower) to be $7500. I'd say that puts this car at just about the edge of affordability for the bare minimum income to qualify for the full credit. Again, you would be making even less to cross the $7500 liability line if FICA is included.
atechnoob Yes. But if your income is so low that your taxes don't amount to the rebate, you shouldn't buy a new car at all! So while you're correct, it's kind of irrelevant.
Great job evaluating all aspects of the vehicles you test. But I think there is one other category to mention. Resale value. All the EV plug-in models like Volt, Bolt etc. have horrendous resale value. According to ALG residual value for Volt or Bolt is only 25% after 3 years and 17% after 5 years. The Honda Hybrid cars retain 50% of their value after 3 years and 34% after 5 years. I wonder how many people consider what their true cost will be when they have to acquire another vehicle. Right now hybrid cars retain much more of their value then the all EV cars. The Honda Accord Hybrid at top trim is $38,000 as is Volt. But after 3 years Honda still has over $17,000 value while Volt is down to $9,500. That's a big hit for EV owners.
Most EV owners are able to get many thousands off the front end via tax credits and rebates, so the true hit is not as bad as it seems based on comparing the resale prices to the MSRP.
For our family, the Ioniq or 2018 LEAF ( or perhaps the eGolf ) would be perfect. But the Tesla charging network gives the Model 3 a huge advantage . . . now I'm seriously thinking about the 3 just because of the charging network. Plus Elon deserves the sale just for the good he has brought to the world. ( We are current LEAF owners. )
beernutsonline I agree and am looking forward to a standardization usable by all EVs. I do hope it includes ( better ) communication between the charger and the EV. That way the charger could stop the charge at a certain percentage ( if the user wishes ) even if the EV doesn't have the ability.
Carpenter Family ok if you think at Tesla products but for the Model 3 they do not offer free supercharging only for S & X.. but if you really think about EV then wait a bit longer for examplethe Jaguar i-Pace is another good rival for Tesla it has better specs than Model 3 and it is a Cross-SUV.. but more stuff will be made pretty soon by Audi and VW too.. ;0)
First, I haven't driven the Ioniq but we do lease the Bolt. It handles very well and I've owned Porsche 911's. I'm not sure the Ioniq handles that much better if it does handle better at all, what are you basing this on? Want to race? The Bolt is also quite a bit faster and has the best regen braking I have driven, routinely going 100 or more miles without using the brakes. We also routinely get 4 to 5 miles per Kwh. On paper the Ioniq might look more efficient but you really have to own a car to understand its efficiency and range. The Bolt sits higher and the seats sit higher also making ingress and egress much easier than I saw you do in your video. The Bolt doesn't have a hump between the back seats, sliding across the seats is not a problem and the added storage no hump gives is a lot more noticeable than people might think. Ergonomics can be a personal thing but I've found the Bolt to be really well thought out in this category, the dual screens are bigger and more informative than the Ioniq. I get max/ min range, exact speed digitally, not a needle, know when I'm regening power,etc. Bars showing how much battery is left without giving figures is pretty meaningless, I don't know why some EVs do this. I can do it in the Bolt but never bother. The min/max and current range give me everything I need to know and on a 180 mile trip we just took the range was within a couple of miles of the range display throughout the trip. I'm not the only one reporting this. Evs that go under 150 miles are dated in this day and age, you really need two cars with one. We routinely go over 270 miles on a charge, the Bolt is very conservatively rated, again 4.5 miles per Kwh is not a problem. The Ioniq won't work for us, we live in the North East, between the cold weather and long distances we go to shop, the Ioniq would likely fall short on winter trips here. The Ioniq has 32 Kwh less battery, sure you can put that into amenities but that doesn't do much good on a 200 plus mile trip which we do often. Do we know the crash statistics on the Ioniq? The Bolt got the highest ratings. I'm sure it's a nice car but the Tesla, Leaf and Bolt are ground up EVs and that makes a difference. The Bolt is a very underestimated car, there are 6 different metals in the chassis, it's technologically superb.
mosfet500 you sound quite defensive regarding the Chevy Bolt. I'm a big fan of the Chevy bolt also, but there's no need to disparage the ionic EV, as it definitely has advantages in regards to pricing and efficiency compared to the bolt. the ionic vehicles are extremely well-designed, fantastic value, and is an attractive option for EV buyers. it's great to have options more than ever. I completely agree with Alex, the Chevy bolt is rated number one, but the ionic is a very close second, and that's pretty damn impressive.
Just citing the facts, remember I live with a Bolt everyday and have over 4k miles on it. Some of things he said were wrong. I'm not knocking the Ioniq but let's look at it realistically. The more people driving EVs the better. My Bolt is a lease if Hyundai makes a better EV in three years I'll buy or lease it but today the Bolt is a better car. Last week my wife and I took a trip to buy our winter vegetables directly from the farm. We buy potatoes, winter squash ext. in 50 lb bags and the Bolt had no problem loading and carrying all of them. We left home with 281 miles range with lots of hills. Granted we must have done more down hill than up hill but the trip did have plenty of both. We got to the farm with 282 miles range left. We drove carefully and stayed under 50 mph but still that's what this car can do. That's how good the regen braking is, I didn't use the brakes once. Coming home we stepped on it . I think the trip was about 130 miles and we got home with about 175 miles left. I didn't have the time to drive under 50 on the way back but if I did I bet I would have had well over 200 miles range left. Check YT people are going very far on a charge with the Bolt. You can go 400 miles if you drive under 30 mph. Good to know if you ever start running out of charge on a long trip. It's not just a 60 Kwh battery it's how the car is engineered. I'm not Bolt blind, this is a very good car.
For those of you who think I'm exaggerating about the Bolt's range there is a recent article on Clean Technica where a couple of guys in Germany did a range test to see how far they could go driving 25 to 30 mph in an Ampera-e, the Bolt's label in Europe. The result was 755 Km or 469 miles. That's right, do a Google search for "How to drive 755 Km on one charge in an Ampera-e."
I think the 28kWh is effective capacity. Other automakers quote the nominal capacity. I think nominally, the Ioniq would be rated at 31 kWh. Am I right?
A quick search of AutoTrader for Ioniq EV's shows only available in California. Yay! Only a 1200 mile drive to visit a dealer for a test drive! Guess it's just another CA compliance vehicle as I guessed 9 months ago... :(
According to the disclaimer at the end of the video, Hyundai provided one tank of gas for the review. I am curious as to how that works, is it a tank of gas for a car of your choice?
One thing i don't get is, if this car was designed to be an EV from the start, than what's with that hump in the middle in front of the rear seats, wouldn't it be flat like in the BoltEV? hmmmm.
Likely never for the Clarity, but the Ioniq is supposedly available for order nationwide. However, Hyundai has had way more demand for it than they apparently bargained for, so they're realistically delivering less than 100 a month and basically all of them are going to customers in CA.
My commute is 75 miles/day, but I need AWD, decent acceleration, and I'm not a fan of the Hyundai brand. I'm still keeping my Tesla Model 3 reservation.
You don't need AWD on a FWD vehicle, but it is recommend on a RWD vehicle if you drive in the snow. I used to live in Colorado and now Germany and I have never needed AWD, but I do put on winter tires on my cars and have never gotten stuck on slipped off the road. AWD is only as good as the tires on the car and on a FWD vehicle, AWD only helps you get going on a slippery surface (especially on an incline), but it doesn't provide a significant benefit for a moving FWD vehicle. AWD does not help you stop or steer, it only helps you get moving. However, if you live up a steep driveway or a dirt road, than I could understand it... Auto Express has an excellent video demonstrating this on identical ford escapes, comparing FWD vs. AWD and different tire types. CR also did an excellent short-clip on this. (1) ua-cam.com/video/mfuE00qdhLA/v-deo.html (2) ua-cam.com/video/iXjzYbpt9Ow/v-deo.html
Well said! People are buying AWD on Tesla, because the only other option is RWD! And decent acceleration ? OK, put the Ioniq Electric in Sport mode and there you get all the acceleration you actually need. If anybody wants(!) more, well, prepare 10 or 20k more for a Tesla 3, nobody is stopping you. Somebody commented that the Ioniq is a Tesla for ordinary people. Well, if you are wealthy enough to buy a Tesla, go ahead!
In other word instead of making it better they just compromise and went backward with cheaper suspension that is less than just ok, making it a very disappointing in handling.
It's true that most people do not need a range of over 100 miles of EV driving range in most cases, but it still seems illogical to buy one that can't travel over 200 miles on a charge when we are accustomed to far greater driving ranges with gasoline/diesel vehicles. Considering that charging stations are few and far between in comparison to gas stations and that there will probably be at least one instance during your ownership of an electric vehicle where you will need to drive further than the range can provide, it just seems like a foolish purchase unless you also rely on a gas/diesel/hybrid vehicle. At least they charge quickly now (provided you have access to fast charging) but its still longer than filling up the tank with dino-juice. The lack of uniformity among charging standards is also problematic. Too many variables. Batteries also degrade over time and max range will decrease over the life of the vehicle. I want electric vehicles (and an expansion of cleaner energy) to push into the mainstream market quickly, but extended driving needs to be covered. I guess you could rent a car or borrow a friends car to drive longer distances, but who would want to do that? Bolt or Model 3 win among currently available electric vehicles in my opinion simply because they are less likely to give you range issues/anxiety. Sorry for the rant, but there just seems to be a lot of glaring issues that need to be sorted before electric vehicles become a truly viable alternative.
Depending on where you live you have enough charging infrastructure around your place, you probably just don't know about it. EVs should be mostly charged at home in your garage - you start (preferrably) every day with 90% (or 100% if you plan a long trip). Fast or super- chargers are only for longer trips. The only thing which Ioniq is lacking is the convenience of charging more seldom. In an EV like that, if you plan a trip over 200 miles, you should charge every 80-100 miles, which is annoying, even if it is only for 15-20 minutes. In Europe we prefer to drive 130 km/h (81 mph), which gives you a range of 105-110 miles. Just by slowing down to 120 km/h (75 mph) you get the promised 125 miles. Driving in cities and cross-country, the range gets to 150 miles. 80% of that range you get at an ordinary 50 kW CCS charger in 30 minutes or in 20 minutes on the 100 kW fast charger. Does it still look so bad? Ioniq is quite new, but (similar) Teslas have almost no battery degradation. Yes, first 5% go in the first year or two, but nobody(!) lost 10% (worldwide!), even some of them having 200k miles and more. Yes, Tesla 3 will be a good car, a better car, but you should also compare the prices.
The same charging time argument could be (and is) made against basically any battery-electric. Notwithstanding needing more stops, the Ioniq can actually be faster than the Bolt on longer trips since it can charge faster and tapers way later. While the charging infrastructure isn't out today, it is coming in short order due to the VW settlement and charging corridor initiatives that states keep announcing. Also, L2 charging can be a useful part of the equation, especially for overnights.
He has a good point. Imagine driving your Ioniq EV from LA to Vegas..... only one Chademo fast charger in the desert & not within Ioniq’s 125 mile limit .
USED EVs are your best option, because they don’t hold their value. I can buy a Nissan Leaf or Fiat 500e for about $8000. And not a lot of miles either .
Why isn't Hyundai selling this ioniq EV in all 50 states like Nissan with the Leaf? I like the car however I'll be looking at buying it if Hyundai increases its range to about 200 to 250 miles.
A good question, it should be. Ask your president. One of the answers would be - a very bad charging network, which is no Hyundai's fault. Ask your major or your governor what could be done. Some fast-chargers every 100 km (60 miles), like Tesla has done his network, would have solved the problem.
Supposedly, it's available for order from any Hyundai dealership nationwide. However, Hyundai is realistically months behind on filling demand, so I don't expect them to deliver to many states until well into 2018.
Yup it's quite strange, I suspect that they don't really won't to sell them in the U.S. yet, given the range of only 125 miles. It is a shame, as the e-golf is the most refined non-Tesla EV on sale (it is the quietest and the best handling). Rumor is that it will go on sale at the end of October and become widely available by December. Perhaps they will release a 50 kW version next year? The "new" version has been on sale in Europe for almost a year.
VW was apparently waiting until all the 2016s were moved off lots before bringing the 2017s to the American market. That apparently happened in IIRC, late September, so the 2017 e-Golf should be available now.
While the Ioniq appeals to me in both hybrid and EV trims, Alex did a disservice by not mentioning that Hyundai continues to limit sales and maintenance of this model to Hyundai dealers in the Greater Los Angeles basin only.
How are you suppose to improve lifespan of the battery in a car? You should not use a battery right after its charged. Or recharge directly after use. Thats what most ppl do. At a station you would definetly do this. Is Evs recommended to ppl without a house ? Being fully depended on local charging stations all time sounds lame.
I would purchase this car however range is a joke. I am in Canada and unless your in a BIG CITY you can’t go from town to town as most locations are 250+ km away not worth the risk unless you carry a 100watt solar panel you
I find for me the bigest reason why I didn't even consider the bolt is because of its origins, it's a gm product! If someone else had made it I think I could have trusted it would be a beter product long term! Many years ago gm usedto make cars that could last more than 20 years but now they barely last 7-10 years unless you are very nice to them!
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By far one of my favorite reviews. I really appreciate that you take the time to go through each detail thoroughly. It's rare these days! Thanks again.
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Thank you for your review Alex. Your review was one reason I bought the Ioniq. For my use case, 100km (62 miles) /day, it's perfect. Even for long drives I find the quick charging to be spectacular! It can charge at up to 70kw! Impressive! Now with the warmer weather I'm seeing 220km (136 miles) on a regular basis. Other drivers on facebook are reporting up to 250km (155 miles).
The fast charging rate of the 28kWh Ioniq is a big plus. How long does your Ioniq take to charge from nearly empty to 80%? 🤔
Thank you, at last. A full report discussing all the important issues and comparisons to competitors. Excellent!
I never tend to leave comments but this i got to say! Your reviews are by far the best reviews on youtube.... PERIOD!!! Congratulations!!!
The efficiency is quite commendable. Norwegian EV nut Bjorn Nyland roadtrips Tesla for thousands of KM all over the EU and while he prefers his Model X, he has nothing but praises for the Ioniq EV. My only real reservation is the small 28kWh battery, which is smaller than almost any EV on sale today; Focus Electric 33kWh, e-Golf 36kWh and unfortunately gets eclipsed by the 2019 Leaf 40kWh battery. The efficient performance only goes so far once winter hits when the heater drains the juice rapidly, and North America simply still lacks a decent DC Fast charging network (and Tesla's proprietary Supercharger can't be used by anybody else)
The humble 28kwh Ioniq is far more efficient that the Nissan Leaf 40kwh. Due to its next generation ZF final reduction gear and its improved aerodynamics it can easily achieve 150 miles per charge in mild conditions. Given the rush to larger batteries, these cars could become very good used/ pre registered bargains in today’s market.
On charging, it is worth noting that the Ioniq supports 100 kW charging and has been shown to get over 70 kW in real-world use. This means you can charge up to 80% within 20 minutes, which somewhat negates some of the smaller battery size and nothing else but a Tesla is faster at charging. Also, the Ioniq is much more efficient at highway speeds than any other EV. Although 100 kW charging doesn't really exist yet in the U.S., I suspect that that will be remedied in 2018.
On top of Ioniq taking 70 kWh charge , the Bolt charging only at 44 kWh at max an even that not for long...
@Sergey Yevtukh Exactly. While the Bolt adds 90 miles in 1 hour, the Ioniq adds 90 miles in 20-23 minutes in real-world use. The charging speed on the Bolt severely limits its use on long road-trips.
That's wrong, the Bolt can charge at 80Kwh, there are no CCS charging stations I know of that can charge at that rate. As it stands today it goes 90 miles on a 30 minute charge. The max for CHAdeMO is 62.5 kWh so even if it has 100 kWh charging it's not available. So it gains nothing. The difference is that I can slow down in the Bolt and go well over 300 miles to find a station, you can't do that in a 130 mile range EV. Remember you have to get to the charger. Yes, this will all change in the next couple of years and we'll all benefit.
Makes me wonder why these companies do not include Fast Charging with all cars as standard. It's almost as if they want people to charge these things with crappy 110V plugs.
OK, do you own an EV?
I lived for 6 mos with just the 110V charger and I'm not alone. I just bought a 16A Level 2 charger not the 32A charger. So I can charge at home in about 16 hours to full charge. But you rarely need to charge to full, most times it's much less.
EVs are so convenient that you just get home and plug in. Range anxiety and not enough charging stations is fossil fuel industry propaganda, don't buy it.
The cost and wok to put in a charging station at your local super market is low, and easy. You're not putting tanks in the ground that a truck has to come and fill on a regular basis. As more EVs arrive those charging stations will grow and grow. Do a search for EV charging stations and see how they have grown all over the country so far.
Just spoken to a UK dealer, and they say that there is no stoke for the whole of the UK, and that the only number expected in March 2018 is 100 cars, yes 100 cars I can't believe this amazing car is being let down by its manufacture commitment. There are not even demo cars anyware near to where I live!!!!!!
My favorite electric car!! Amazing job bro.
The best review i've ever seen. Thank you very much.
That's how a review is done! 👍👍👍👍👍
I just bought a 19 Ioniq in NOR, after having an old Leaf for ca 2 ys. Like the comfort, space, sedan quality!
Hmmm, should we expect a Bolt review coming soon? You mention some solid figures and experiences with the Bolt. I'd be really interested in that. I'm thinking a used Bolt in a few years will probably be my next car.
Very good review. Tried this and e-golf. Golf drives much better and has much better material inside. But its much more expensive once you start adding options. Hyundai options all together cost the same as just leather seat for eGold almost.
Very detailed review, thank you for this video 👏🏻
i think that Chevy Bolt can be better option in a cold climate, because you can get more range in winter and heat your cabin as warm as you want.....
Test drove the Bolt here in northeastern PA. Even though we told the salesman we were happy LEAF owners looking for our next EV, he still tried to talk us out of electric! These dealers really need to get their heads out of their butts. They are insulting customers. And I wouldn't buy from a dealer who doesn't believe in nor under stand the EV product because I won't get good after sale support. I will definitely buy another EV, I just need to find the right dealer.
Dealers don’t make money on oil changes and air filter changes if you buy an EV. Dealers are actually SMART to push gasoline cars (more profit from future service needs)
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Few people who actually live in a city ever travel outside of it when not working. Range seems good, but the hybrid engine will be used on the highway, so Ioniq seens a good alternative to straight EV. Looks are subjective; once upon a time people liked tail find on their cars. All modern cars seem to look like Hyundai's now
Having driven a 2016 LEAF SL for almost two years, we are long over 'range anxiety.' We know we don't need, nor want to pay for, 200~300 mile range. So we are looking at the Ionic and 2018 LEAF. It would be great to see a comparison of those two. I've not yet reviewed the Honda Clarity, but 90 mile range isn't enough for our family. But we'll have to try the eGolf.
Bjorn Nyland (the Norvegian with the Tesla Model X) made a good walk-around of the Nissan Leaf 2018, he also talked to the chief-engineer of Nissan (google it). 40 kWh, 150 miles EPA range, a bulge at the rear seats, more for 4 people than 5.
The only complaint I have is that it still won't have an active battery (fan) cooling like the Ioniq has. Everything besides that it will be an excellent car for its price!
Only announced, but not yet specified, is the long-range version of the Ioniq. If it will be good and for a good price, well, it will be the best of all, since all that the current Ioniq lacks are some additional 30 or better 50% of battery size.
Golf-E is a good competitor with lot of passenger space, a good German build, but is quite sluggish on fast charging as it charges at only some 30-32 kW max (
Richard - thank you for the info. I'll check these three out.
If your climate is not to hot and you can leave your car mostly in the shade, Leaf 2018 should be a good option. If it would stay more often in the sun, it shouldn't be at a high state of charge, I would suggest not more than 70%.
On a long trip - well, Bjorn Nyland tested the current Leaf with the 30 kWh battery and it was close to overheating on a 500 km trip at (spring) temperatures between 12 and 20 degrees Celsius.
Ioniq has an excellent efficiency so the E-Golf, although having a slightly bigger battery, has almost the same range. A German (unfortunately in German) did a head-to-head comparison and in many details the Ioniq was slightly better, it also won his vote, but he also added that the build of the Golf was better.
Me, now, I'd take the the Ioniq. The fast-charger 100 kW support is an investment for the future, it draws 60-70 kW and 0-80% in 23 minutes. As this is not so often available, it takes 30-35 minutes on 50 kW CCS (with about 44 kW charging speed), for the same amount, not so bad either.
The current Leaf is slightly slower, we'll see how good the new one does.
With the Leaf 2018? I drive to vacation in summer for some 500-600 km above 30C - it would be a tough call. In my case I would probably stick with the Hyundai.
In the end, it's your decision. Nice to get a feedback and I am glad I could help!
Thanks for the comprehensive review, really interesting.
Great video. Liked. Already subbed.
In Canada, the Ioniq electric is offered at 0% financing for 84 months which makes it quite competitive vs the e-golf.
Yes that is a promo but Ioniq EVs are very rare compared to the ICE cars. My local dealerships don't have any new in stock. Same situation with e-golf no stock available for purchase.
Where is that? I haven't seen any interest rates at 0% for the Ioniq EV in Ontario...
Bill Plaschka neither have I.
I'm a Toyota guy, but this is a better car than the Prius.
Better-looking, lower-priced, handling and nicer interior with more legroom
I think real-world MPG will be a wash, but this is better at being a car
This is an EV, so there is no MPG. This does not compete with the Prius in any way.
Nissan TitanWarrior I agree with you, this beats a Prius in almost every way. the ioniq hybrid is the best hybrid there is.
The true competing EVs are Bolt, Ioniq and the coming Leaf 2018. Bolt has the range on single charge, Ioniq the efficiency and the possibility to charge at 100 kW CCS, Leaf the range between both of them (40 kWh), the only drawback is it will lack active battery cooling.
All of them are reasonably priced EVs, all have some plus-es and minus-es.
I can hardly wait until they get these things to where they are practical.
I wouldn't be surprised if Hyundai leapfrogs both Toyota and Volkswagen very soon and becomes the largest automotive manufacturer in the world.
Bruce Solomon plus with the Kona Electric doing wonders right now they will grow hard.
Yeah, hyundai is improving at the fastest rate and are bringing amazing things to the market they deserve the top spot!
Yes. Toyota has been riding on their reputation for a while. Hyundai is passing them.
Toyota may become another Kodak
Please do a review of the Hyundai Ioniq Plug-In once it gets released! And if possible, a limited with the ultimate package. Please
Great review! Very thorough. This car is still top of my EV wish list - if only Hyundai would release it in Australia.
It is being released toward the end of this year in all three variants, Hybrid, Plug-In Hybrid and EV....
Alex, it would be ever so helpful if you started addressing whether or not rear passenger windows rolled down all the way or not. Nobody does that. It can be a deal breaker for those of us that have dogs.
The Ultimate package has Lake keeping (2018). That's something no other vehicle has.
Oof, I wouldn't want my EV in a lake. If it keeps the vehicle from entering a lake, then we're good :p
Awesome review Alex.
Imagine, after I put another 100k on my Camry how much more these cars will have advanced !
Imagine how much money youre going to spend on gas... Fuel has been going up lately and will probably continue to do so. At least its a mildly decent Toyota.
@@samusaran7317 Well, here's an update. I made the mistake of being stopped in traffic right infront of some ladies cell phone. 4 cars totaled including mine. It did so well at taking damage, I was only beat up a little. So I bought a newer one and it gets even better mpg. Todayls cars are improving all the time and have been for many decades.
Had to sub your videos are excellent my man appreciate the hard work !
Thank you Alex. Your review is very informative and helpful to decide what I'm going to drive.
We have a 28kw Ioniq, our average miles p kw is 5.4
Do the Ioniq Hybrid /EV have a rear stabilizer bar? I read the plug in hybrid does not
Is the 2019 model with larger 38kwh battery?
If Hyundai could come out with a 200+ mile rated vehicle I would be sold. For now, 125 miles just doesn't cut it.
The seats are also ventilated not just heated.
You could squeeze more than 4 miles per kWh. I am at 4.6 miles per kWh with a/c on in my leaf.
I think the second place finish is a being generous. As a California-only car, it's not really an option for most Americans. At least the 2018 Leaf will be a 50 state car, as are the Bolt, model 3 and i3. Also, I think it worth mentioning that public DC chargers are almost always dual standard, so in practice it doesn't matter if the car has CCS or ChaDeMo.
quizzley7 what's stopping you from going to California to buy a car? A lot of people went to California to buy the bolt when it was only available there.
Theoretically possible, but not practical. I don't think you will be able to find a Hyundai dealer who is willing to help you do that, while there were plenty of Chevy dealers who did help people here get Bolts early.. Unlike the Bolt, the Ioniq EV is never going to be sold here, so dealers are reluctant to service it. The shipping and sales tax costs would be high as well. There's a big difference between getting a car a few months before it will be sold near you and getting a car that will never be sold near you.
Are there any major differences between 2018 and 2019 models?
GM also learned from the Spark EV, not only from both Volts.
so the ioniq UK version does 255 miles of range and this does only half as much? i don't get it.
I had a question, is the lease with unlimited miles for California only? Can I buy an bring back to another state?
19:17 "Some cars have tried a little bit too hard to look futuristic."
- Future Ionic variants: "You ain't seen nothing yet, 2017-Alex." 😎
The 220 mile range Model 3 should be more efficient because of its lighter weight than the 310 mile version with 126 mpge.
We'll see which one will be more efficient, but I agree it will be a close call.
Question in general about regenerative breaking; say you hit the paddle to aggressively regen, do your brake lights turn on? Seems you would decelerate quite a bit in this mode.
Noel Dillabough it will throw on the brake lights on the 3rd max regen setting with the paddles.
You are saying it has almost 674 liters (23.8 ft3) of trunk space? When the seats are lifted? I don’t believe that.
Great review. Not done yet, but finally everything in detail.
Any news on when the 2018 Ioniq EVs show up in Northern California?
What's the wireless charging amperage? How long to charge a typical battery from near flat?
Can you try to get your hands on a Honda Clarity Plug-In once Jr gets released? very curious how it compares with the Chevy Volt.
No Head Up Display in the Ioniq?
Your car length chart showed my car as the Kia Nero :-)
Great video on Hyundai electric.....
At 2:00 on the size chart, its Kia Niro, not Nero.
equikimmy maybe he was thinking of Nero Burning Software
Hybrid $22,000+
Plug in $25,000+ (your estimate)
I hope your right but that is a "too good to be true " kind of number for the plug-in. How did you get that estimate?
I'm going for the Niro plug-in. Do you think $25,000+ is plausible?
The main problems, Dual Clutch transmission will fail long before any hybrid system need replacement
Why do you reduce the price of the vehicle by the tax credit? Isn't the tax credit nonrefundable? Meaning that if my tax liability is less than the tax credit I will lose the rest of the credit.
Yes, this is true. However, you have to make about $47,000 for your federal income tax liability (this ignores FICA, so actually probably lower) to be $7500. I'd say that puts this car at just about the edge of affordability for the bare minimum income to qualify for the full credit. Again, you would be making even less to cross the $7500 liability line if FICA is included.
atechnoob Yes. But if your income is so low that your taxes don't amount to the rebate, you shouldn't buy a new car at all! So while you're correct, it's kind of irrelevant.
Wait, Hyundai Soul EV at 6:00 ?
Great job evaluating all aspects of the vehicles you test. But I think there is one other category to mention. Resale value. All the EV plug-in models like Volt, Bolt etc. have horrendous resale value. According to ALG residual value for Volt or Bolt is only 25% after 3 years and 17% after 5 years. The Honda Hybrid cars retain 50% of their value after 3 years and 34% after 5 years. I wonder how many people consider what their true cost will be when they have to acquire another vehicle. Right now hybrid cars retain much more of their value then the all EV cars. The Honda Accord Hybrid at top trim is $38,000 as is Volt. But after 3 years Honda still has over $17,000 value while Volt is down to $9,500. That's a big hit for EV owners.
Most EV owners are able to get many thousands off the front end via tax credits and rebates, so the true hit is not as bad as it seems based on comparing the resale prices to the MSRP.
When we will see it in Florida?
You misspelled Kia's version. It's Niro not Nero
cant wait for the tesla review!
For our family, the Ioniq or 2018 LEAF ( or perhaps the eGolf ) would be perfect. But the Tesla charging network gives the Model 3 a huge advantage . . . now I'm seriously thinking about the 3 just because of the charging network. Plus Elon deserves the sale just for the good he has brought to the world. ( We are current LEAF owners. )
He sure does
Standard charging systems are coming fast, which will support any EV, not just the Tesla. (Stupid to have a charger for every brand..)
beernutsonline I agree and am looking forward to a standardization usable by all EVs. I do hope it includes ( better ) communication between the charger and the EV. That way the charger could stop the charge at a certain percentage ( if the user wishes ) even if the EV doesn't have the ability.
Carpenter Family ok if you think at Tesla products but for the Model 3 they do not offer free supercharging only for S & X.. but if you really think about EV then wait a bit longer for examplethe Jaguar i-Pace is another good rival for Tesla it has better specs than Model 3 and it is a Cross-SUV.. but more stuff will be made pretty soon by Audi and VW too.. ;0)
First, I haven't driven the Ioniq but we do lease the Bolt. It handles very well and I've owned Porsche 911's. I'm not sure the Ioniq handles that much better if it does handle better at all, what are you basing this on? Want to race? The Bolt is also quite a bit faster and has the best regen braking I have driven, routinely going 100 or more miles without using the brakes.
We also routinely get 4 to 5 miles per Kwh. On paper the Ioniq might look more efficient but you really have to own a car to understand its efficiency and range.
The Bolt sits higher and the seats sit higher also making ingress and egress much easier than I saw you do in your video. The Bolt doesn't have a hump between the back seats, sliding across the seats is not a problem and the added storage no hump gives is a lot more noticeable than people might think.
Ergonomics can be a personal thing but I've found the Bolt to be really well thought out in this category, the dual screens are bigger and more informative than the Ioniq. I get max/ min range, exact speed digitally, not a needle, know when I'm regening power,etc. Bars showing how much battery is left without giving figures is pretty meaningless, I don't know why some EVs do this. I can do it in the Bolt but never bother. The min/max and current range give me everything I need to know and on a 180 mile trip we just took the range was within a couple of miles of the range display throughout the trip. I'm not the only one reporting this.
Evs that go under 150 miles are dated in this day and age, you really need two cars with one.
We routinely go over 270 miles on a charge, the Bolt is very conservatively rated, again 4.5 miles per Kwh is not a problem. The Ioniq won't work for us, we live in the North East, between the cold weather and long distances we go to shop, the Ioniq would likely fall short on winter trips here. The Ioniq has 32 Kwh less battery, sure you can put that into amenities but that doesn't do much good on a 200 plus mile trip which we do often.
Do we know the crash statistics on the Ioniq? The Bolt got the highest ratings.
I'm sure it's a nice car but the Tesla, Leaf and Bolt are ground up EVs and that makes a difference. The Bolt is a very underestimated car, there are 6 different metals in the chassis, it's technologically superb.
Leased a Bolt LT and absolutely love it, should buy it instead.
mosfet500 you sound quite defensive regarding the Chevy Bolt. I'm a big fan of the Chevy bolt also, but there's no need to disparage the ionic EV, as it definitely has advantages in regards to pricing and efficiency compared to the bolt. the ionic vehicles are extremely well-designed, fantastic value, and is an attractive option for EV buyers. it's great to have options more than ever. I completely agree with Alex, the Chevy bolt is rated number one, but the ionic is a very close second, and that's pretty damn impressive.
im really leaning towards the Bolt next year, i live in upstate new york and winter would kill my milage for this car .
Just citing the facts, remember I live with a Bolt everyday and have over 4k miles on it. Some of things he said were wrong.
I'm not knocking the Ioniq but let's look at it realistically. The more people driving EVs the better. My Bolt is a lease if Hyundai makes a better EV in three years I'll buy or lease it but today the Bolt is a better car.
Last week my wife and I took a trip to buy our winter vegetables directly from the farm. We buy potatoes, winter squash ext. in 50 lb bags and the Bolt had no problem loading and carrying all of them. We left home with 281 miles range with lots of hills. Granted we must have done more down hill than up hill but the trip did have plenty of both. We got to the farm with 282 miles range left. We drove carefully and stayed under 50 mph but still that's what this car can do. That's how good the regen braking is, I didn't use the brakes once. Coming home we stepped on it . I think the trip was about 130 miles and we got home with about 175 miles left. I didn't have the time to drive under 50 on the way back but if I did I bet I would have had well over 200 miles range left. Check YT people are going very far on a charge with the Bolt. You can go 400 miles if you drive under 30 mph. Good to know if you ever start running out of charge on a long trip. It's not just a 60 Kwh battery it's how the car is engineered. I'm not Bolt blind, this is a very good car.
For those of you who think I'm exaggerating about the Bolt's range there is a recent article on Clean Technica where a couple of guys in Germany did a range test to see how far they could go driving 25 to 30 mph in an Ampera-e, the Bolt's label in Europe. The result was 755 Km or 469 miles. That's right, do a Google search for "How to drive 755 Km on one charge in an Ampera-e."
I know this is unrelated to the Ioniq, but could you do a review on the 2018 Audi Q5?
Why does my 2018 Hyundai Ionic Plug-in only have 27 KM on full charge
I think the 28kWh is effective capacity. Other automakers quote the nominal capacity. I think nominally, the Ioniq would be rated at 31 kWh. Am I right?
Many tests have shown that you are.
If this were a car from another car maker, it would be sold as a 31 kWh car.
6 years ago, I get 2018 Hyundai Ioniq EV car.
Hopefully, Hyundai will offer these outside of just CA and OR.
A quick search of AutoTrader for Ioniq EV's shows only available in California. Yay! Only a 1200 mile drive to visit a dealer for a test drive! Guess it's just another CA compliance vehicle as I guessed 9 months ago... :(
Slip up at 16:08: "Makes this a little but quieter than the elantra hybrid" should be ioniq hybrid.
a littler bit*
According to the disclaimer at the end of the video, Hyundai provided one tank of gas for the review. I am curious as to how that works, is it a tank of gas for a car of your choice?
FGilan the press car comes filled with gas.
One thing i don't get is, if this car was designed to be an EV from the start, than what's with that hump in the middle in front of the rear seats, wouldn't it be flat like in the BoltEV? hmmmm.
It was co-designed to be a hybrid and PHEV too, both of which need the tunnel for the usual things like exhaust.
You didn’t pay attention to the video. It was designed to be EV or Hybrid (which needs a hump for the transmission)
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Do you know when the Ioniq EV and the Clarity EV are coming to the rest of the United States?
Cris Henriquez clarity is a compliance car and will only be sold in California
Likely never for the Clarity, but the Ioniq is supposedly available for order nationwide. However, Hyundai has had way more demand for it than they apparently bargained for, so they're realistically delivering less than 100 a month and basically all of them are going to customers in CA.
Oregon too, but who's counting? Also, only available for lease. Honda won't sell them, much like the Fit EV.
Great review! 23:17 -- Apparently Model 3 doesn't offer CHaDeMo (yet).
p.s. 25:07 e-Golf boring? Maybe to look at but not to drive, as I am sure you'd agree!
My commute is 75 miles/day, but I need AWD, decent acceleration, and I'm not a fan of the Hyundai brand.
I'm still keeping my Tesla Model 3 reservation.
You don't need AWD on a FWD vehicle, but it is recommend on a RWD vehicle if you drive in the snow. I used to live in Colorado and now Germany and I have never needed AWD, but I do put on winter tires on my cars and have never gotten stuck on slipped off the road. AWD is only as good as the tires on the car and on a FWD vehicle, AWD only helps you get going on a slippery surface (especially on an incline), but it doesn't provide a significant benefit for a moving FWD vehicle. AWD does not help you stop or steer, it only helps you get moving. However, if you live up a steep driveway or a dirt road, than I could understand it... Auto Express has an excellent video demonstrating this on identical ford escapes, comparing FWD vs. AWD and different tire types. CR also did an excellent short-clip on this. (1) ua-cam.com/video/mfuE00qdhLA/v-deo.html (2) ua-cam.com/video/iXjzYbpt9Ow/v-deo.html
Well said!
People are buying AWD on Tesla, because the only other option is RWD!
And decent acceleration ? OK, put the Ioniq Electric in Sport mode and there you get all the acceleration you actually need.
If anybody wants(!) more, well, prepare 10 or 20k more for a Tesla 3, nobody is stopping you.
Somebody commented that the Ioniq is a Tesla for ordinary people.
Well, if you are wealthy enough to buy a Tesla, go ahead!
In other word instead of making it better they just compromise and went backward with cheaper suspension that is less than just ok, making it a very disappointing in handling.
It's true that most people do not need a range of over 100 miles of EV driving range in most cases, but it still seems illogical to buy one that can't travel over 200 miles on a charge when we are accustomed to far greater driving ranges with gasoline/diesel vehicles. Considering that charging stations are few and far between in comparison to gas stations and that there will probably be at least one instance during your ownership of an electric vehicle where you will need to drive further than the range can provide, it just seems like a foolish purchase unless you also rely on a gas/diesel/hybrid vehicle. At least they charge quickly now (provided you have access to fast charging) but its still longer than filling up the tank with dino-juice. The lack of uniformity among charging standards is also problematic. Too many variables. Batteries also degrade over time and max range will decrease over the life of the vehicle.
I want electric vehicles (and an expansion of cleaner energy) to push into the mainstream market quickly, but extended driving needs to be covered. I guess you could rent a car or borrow a friends car to drive longer distances, but who would want to do that? Bolt or Model 3 win among currently available electric vehicles in my opinion simply because they are less likely to give you range issues/anxiety.
Sorry for the rant, but there just seems to be a lot of glaring issues that need to be sorted before electric vehicles become a truly viable alternative.
Depending on where you live you have enough charging infrastructure around your place, you probably just don't know about it.
EVs should be mostly charged at home in your garage - you start (preferrably) every day with 90% (or 100% if you plan a long trip). Fast or super- chargers are only for longer trips.
The only thing which Ioniq is lacking is the convenience of charging more seldom. In an EV like that, if you plan a trip over 200 miles, you should charge every 80-100 miles, which is annoying, even if it is only for 15-20 minutes. In Europe we prefer to drive 130 km/h (81 mph), which gives you a range of 105-110 miles. Just by slowing down to 120 km/h (75 mph) you get the promised 125 miles. Driving in cities and cross-country, the range gets to 150 miles.
80% of that range you get at an ordinary 50 kW CCS charger in 30 minutes or in 20 minutes on the 100 kW fast charger. Does it still look so bad?
Ioniq is quite new, but (similar) Teslas have almost no battery degradation. Yes, first 5% go in the first year or two, but nobody(!) lost 10% (worldwide!), even some of them having 200k miles and more.
Yes, Tesla 3 will be a good car, a better car, but you should also compare the prices.
The same charging time argument could be (and is) made against basically any battery-electric. Notwithstanding needing more stops, the Ioniq can actually be faster than the Bolt on longer trips since it can charge faster and tapers way later. While the charging infrastructure isn't out today, it is coming in short order due to the VW settlement and charging corridor initiatives that states keep announcing. Also, L2 charging can be a useful part of the equation, especially for overnights.
He has a good point. Imagine driving your Ioniq EV from LA to Vegas..... only one Chademo fast charger in the desert & not within Ioniq’s 125 mile limit
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Rear headroom...The winner is the Hyundai Soul EV
Hurrah! Electric cars are looking much less weird or like Darth Vader's bathroom...
Have you tested to Bolt-ev yet?
When can I buy one in the US
Try a Hyundai dealer...
This is the 2017 not the 2018 I heard the 2018 is supposed to hit 200mpge
One of the top EVs aside from its unfortunate looks. Makes the new Leaf look downright stylish.
Nissan leaf is a very ugly car. Ioniq has a great side profile
USED EVs are your best option, because they don’t hold their value. I can buy a Nissan Leaf or Fiat 500e for about $8000. And not a lot of miles either
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Happy driving!
it's a shame that it doesn't come with independent suspension
It would be nice, but considering the way its likely to be driven, it really doesn't matter. Adding it wouldn't increase sales
They needed the space, and test have shown that nobody will notice unless he drives the car to the limit.
Well done.
Why isn't Hyundai selling this ioniq EV in all 50 states like Nissan with the Leaf? I like the car however I'll be looking at buying it if Hyundai increases its range to about 200 to 250 miles.
A good question, it should be. Ask your president.
One of the answers would be - a very bad charging network, which is no Hyundai's fault. Ask your major or your governor what could be done. Some fast-chargers every 100 km (60 miles), like Tesla has done his network, would have solved the problem.
Supposedly, it's available for order from any Hyundai dealership nationwide. However, Hyundai is realistically months behind on filling demand, so I don't expect them to deliver to many states until well into 2018.
BMWI3 fun to drive...0 - 60 7.3 sek
That eGolf they promised for 2017 never came and doesn't look like it will at all in the US
eGolf always lagged behind other EV's shame as it looked better then others as it looks like a real car
Yup it's quite strange, I suspect that they don't really won't to sell them in the U.S. yet, given the range of only 125 miles. It is a shame, as the e-golf is the most refined non-Tesla EV on sale (it is the quietest and the best handling). Rumor is that it will go on sale at the end of October and become widely available by December. Perhaps they will release a 50 kW version next year? The "new" version has been on sale in Europe for almost a year.
VW was apparently waiting until all the 2016s were moved off lots before bringing the 2017s to the American market. That apparently happened in IIRC, late September, so the 2017 e-Golf should be available now.
Don't really know why people are talking about charging port options people will just create adapters for them lol...
Yea… but the range! Ugh 😑
While the Ioniq appeals to me in both hybrid and EV trims, Alex did a disservice by not mentioning that Hyundai continues to limit sales and maintenance of this model to Hyundai dealers in the Greater Los Angeles basin only.
I would buy one,but there is no vegan interior option.
How are you suppose to improve lifespan of the battery in a car? You should not use a battery right after its charged. Or recharge directly after use. Thats what most ppl do. At a station you would definetly do this.
Is Evs recommended to ppl without a house ? Being fully depended on local charging stations all time sounds lame.
Best way to extend battery life (on cars, phones, etc) is always keep it between 20% and 80% charge
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I would purchase this car however range is a joke. I am in Canada and unless your in a BIG CITY you can’t go from town to town as most locations are 250+ km away not worth the risk unless you carry a 100watt solar panel you
I find for me the bigest reason why I didn't even consider the bolt is because of its origins, it's a gm product! If someone else had made it I think I could have trusted it would be a beter product long term! Many years ago gm usedto make cars that could last more than 20 years but now they barely last 7-10 years unless you are very nice to them!
0-60 in 8.1 but official time is like 9.9 seconds??? XD
Naa. Not just there yet. Gonna need to wait 5-7 years for a better EV.
I'm 6 foot 2 is this car too small for me
Hyundai is the first vehicle with lake keeping :D