Where you notched out the shield for the hoses. Go to any auto parts store and buy a set of black thin self sticking door edge guards. You can cut lengths needed to go in those square rough cut outs. This will give it a finished smooth edge to look good and will protect the hoses from chaffing.
Nice looking kit. Wish is were designed a bit differently. Spin around the filter mount 180 degrees in order to shorten the hoses. I'm concerned about my fuel lines being so exposed.
Just put this on my truck. I have the factory 48 gallon tank with the long bed. Filter mounts with the same hardware just longer hoses because the fuel block bracket mounts to the drivers side forward bed mount bolt they put have a hole in the bracket and give you a big flat washer and nut no need to take the nut off the bed mount bolt very solid and the hoses get routed over the frame rail. Also no plastic shield to modify. Down side is the filter is outside the main frame rails. Plus side you don’t need to crawl under to drain or change.
So glad I found this comment. I just ordered this setup two days ago and called HS-M and asked them if I had to take the caged nut off to install this. Good thing I don’t because I’ve got a 91 gallon rds combo sitting right over that bolt and didn’t want to have to remove the tank for that one bolt. 🙏🏼
For anyone doing this mod I can confirm the Donaldson P553203 which is a superior filter at 3 microns absolute instead of 10-15 like the cat filters and works with the HSM lower. You can also install P569758 bowl so you can see the fuel and if there’s any water that needs drained. The 3 micron rating is better than the upper stock filter at 4 microns. I can also confirm that Baldwin BF46228 fits the HSM upper kit and offers superior filtration compared to the BF7967 at 4 microns absolute vs 4 microns nominal 15 microns absolute. The BF46228 is just a little longer maybe half an inch.
@himni1, I also use this Donaldson filter with the clear sight bowl on my 2012 I made a very similar set up and like you said, straight out of the tank to a 3 micron filter is superior then most.
Have you looked at the Black Market Performance front and rear filter replacements? They appear to be a much simpler design and run CAT filters as well. No exposed hoses on the rear setup and you don't have to disconnect the fuel lines on the front filter housing to change the filter.
I saw that one. I liked the way the hoses are out of the way, and how the filter is tucked up against the fuel cell. I'm not really sure if I like how the bracket attaches to the plastic piece. Any thoughts on that?
FYI for anyone installing this kit, HSM said the fittings in the hoses can be twisted or spun for proper hose alignment, the way my fittings were positioned in the hoses from them kept putting a slight kink in one of the hoses. The fittings almost need to be 90 degrees from each other to aid in proper positioning. Mine were pointing the same direction. Hope this helps if you find yours doing the same.
Nice system, I would like to see a psi gauge post filter to monitor lift pump, other than that it looks perfect, and I bet it pays for it self with cheaper filter cost, and better filtering.
I'd much rather see 180 degree fittings at the plate that reside inside the plastic removable cover. Then hoses would be on top, shorter, and route easier. What are specs on Cat filter as far as micron rating... What is the distinct advantage besides bragging rights at the campground?
I purchased Black Market Diesel Company's version of the lower fuel filter upgrade. It requires removal of (3) quick release clips from the top of the fuel filter housing and (1) from the side. They provided no instructions and refer to a You Tube video that skips some of the steps. Any advice how to release these clips? I wish I would have purchased the HSM lower filter Upgrade.
Thanks for the video. I had the cat filter upgrade kits on my 2020 Ram 3500 and now that I am in a 2022 F350 I was looking for fuel filters upgrade kits for it as well. I will be ordering this next week along with the upper kit as well. Thanks for the great videos.
This filter adaption is actually worthwhile although, for myself not possible. I have a Titan 55 gallon tank and that crossmember is utilized for the front tank supports. Great install and instruction ARod!
@@codyphillips48 could make for a bit more noise from the body in that case. The filter head can be mounted with some homemade plates to frame holes that are threaded too. Lots of possibilities for sure thanks to the lower filter adapter plate they developed.
To add to this. The CAT filter doesn’t meet filtration spec. Ford primary filter is 10 micron absolute and can filter 96% of emulsified water. Baldwin is 13 micron absolute and does meet water filtration spec. The Donaldson P550847 does meet both filtration and water emulsion filtration specs. Just thought I’d add to this. I am rather curious if the WIF sensor will correctly operate too. The water will drop out in the water separator/filter. They may make a filter that has a WIF provision but I don’t think the stock sensor would work in that situation. Might be possible to wire in an aftermarket sensor into the loop that would still trigger an accurate response if we knew the circuit values.
Aaron when it comes to all the fuel system changes how does it affect fuel flow? I’m also curious have you had a customer with a disaster prevention kit come in with a pump failure?
Why Ford went to all that plastic sh*t, glad to see a kit made to convert things to spin ons makes servicing so much easier. I'm not a fan of the cartridge system that's used on the 6.0 the HFCM is awful I dread changing that filter. Myself I would have prefilled that filter with Diesel Kleen not right full mind you may be half. My procedure I always write the date and kilometers or hours on spin on fuel filters.
Do I really need to touch the upper fuel filter after I switch to this … as fuel filtered through the cat then fed up , so filter in engine bay just getting clean fuel anyways
Another very informative vid. ARod. Like the HSM kit way better than the SPE kit, since one of two the SPE filters hangs scary low - lower than fuel tank skid plate (yikes!). Would you recommend adding a quick wrap of teflon Thread tape or gel sealant on the fittings (or would fuel just degrade it ? I always prime my “upside down” fuel & oil filters. Am i doing it wrong? I like that you zip tied the lines. Always a concern for lines snagging / getting snagged by something when off road (or when your mother in law is napping on the driveway).
ARod…why not just install a FASS lift pump and totally get rid of both factory filters? Then you can simply buy a water separator and fuel filter of any brand of your choice, and they install in the same place. Here you still have one under the hood and one under the truck. With a FASS lift pump, you can also add 2 fuel heaters I believe. What do you think about that?
@@FordBossMe Don't be movin' in on MY territory...
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How many times do you have to cycle the key, 22’ 250 and what’s the Donaldson Clear bubble comparable to that Cat filter instead? Lemme know! Thanks for the killer video!
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod with those two tubes and o-rings, why would fuel still fill the filter housing? I see that your WIF sensor is there, but you now have unfiltered fuel and no control over its movement.
Any difference when installing on the S&B aftermarket tank where the filter is in the middle of the tank? i ordered the kit for aftermarket tank but haven't experimented yet. Coming up on 15k miles and will install then.
Installed mine today but I’ve having issues with mine it has a humming sound coming from under the hood pulled off my filter down at the frame rail and it wasn’t primed from doing the cycle I filled it up and tried priming the system again and I still have a humming sound any help on where to check all my lines are good and tight. Thanks for the help
I have both H&S fuel filter kits but have been delaying on installing because I thought the bottom one would be harder than this to install. Thanks for the video as always. Can you see very much of the CAT filter or very little? That's my only worry.
Couple questions? Just was thinking of the placement of fuel water separator since OEM it looks like the filter is placed well below the pump in tank, wouldn't placing that aftermarket filter higher, I can't tell if it's below the pump or above? couldn't that cause more air entrapment? Also with road vibration aren't the hoses more susceptible to damage due to rubbing against plastic protector?
@@codyphillips48 when does fuel ever sit at the plate? He reinstalled the WIF sensor, but it appears the two tubes run all the way up the housing and now that entire cavity should sit void. Right?
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod absolutely I’ve been checking out a bunch of the upgrades you have done, looks like lots of great upgrades for this platform
I have a question for you sir i have a 2017 PSD with an aftermarket 60 gallon S&B fuel tank in my truck was in it whenever i got it, the black plastic triangle piece that holds the housing to the tank broke. How hard is it to remove the fuel filter housing from the truck, do i have to drop the tank to do so so I can replace the mounting bracket ?
After seeing that water in the fuel can cause these filters to rust on the inside and then grenade your HPFP, I'll be sticking with the OEM Ford Cartridge filter.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I must admit, I was in between seeing patients and skipped through parts to try and get the just of it, but I failed to get the right parts. Sorry, I will try and get to the whole video! Thanks
Any chance of debris accumulation around sensor & causing a problem?...but otherwise a great looking piece!!!...you're making my bank account shrink w/all these goodies!!!👍👍😂😂
Another great video! You put an upper fuel filter mode as well. I can't find it. Did you delete it? I remember you modified the connections which I thought was the way to go but I need to see the video again.
You mentioned the S&B larger fuel tank during this install video. Will the HSM lower filter kit work with the larger, 60 gallon S&B fuel tank? Also, SPE just came out with a fuel filtering kit for the upper and lower fuel filters. Are you familiar with the SPE kit? Which kit would you recommend now? Thanks.
I also looked at lower filter Upgrade kits made by Black Market Performance, they take a different approach by removing the entire filter system. Do you have any comments or concerns I have a 2022 6.7 and I don't want to modify the OE upper and lower filter systems while under warranty. Want to be able to put return to stock in case of warranty claim.
I like the concept of the product but, I hate the location for the new filter. The new location leaves the filter more exposed, compared to the stock location. I’m also not a fan of the fuel lines and how they were routed out in the open. I think it would be better if HSM designed the kit to run the lines tucked to the frame rail.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARodI get that. But, we're left to decide exactly which so-called upgrades are really worth the hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars they cost. What is the REAL return on investment other than the cool factor? Stay true to yourself bro. Don't let advertisers corrupt your character. I'm confident what you say you actually believe to be true. That's a rare trait in this "sell yourself out" world. See you in the next video. 💪
The problem I see with this is the water sensor is still on the old housing and doesn't look like it will be functional for the new filter also no more drain valve on the old housing, I imagine water will still separate in the old housing. I don't know for sure but it looks like something I'd be concerned about. I would like to add a filter like this in addition to the stock cartridge though
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Unfortunately have to think and live outside the box all the time in my line of work then when things like this come along it's back into the OEM box saving $500. Using that towards other things more important friend.
Those AN lines look like Push-Loc. Those should NEVER be used on a fuel. Too many failures have happened as the barbs are the only retention that the hose has. A crimp on style fitting would be WAY better for this style application.
Nice looking unit but it won't fit on my water separator. Well, it will fit but I can't install the filter bracket. I have fuel tank fore and aft of the ws and my ws is rotated 90 degrees so it is facing the truck frame. So the bracket for the remote filter will not mount. Bummer, huh?
So I just went to order the kit but noticed when ordering that it has several kits. One mentioned aftermarket fuel tank. I plan on getting the same s and b tank you installed last month. Should I wait until I receive the new tank?
In what sense is this an upgrade? I am not sure what is the benefit of spending $480 for this. Better filtration? - Cheaper filter replacement cost? - Long filter change cycle?
PowerStroke Tech Talk w/ARod okay cool, I was gonna jerry rig something but I’ll just wait that being the case. Looking forward to the install vid on that one!
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Yes I do. Checking because bin Vermont a couple of days was -12 and with the filter kinda just sitting out there was wondering if anti-gel would be enough. I live the idea just a little worried.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod would think kinda like a bridge. More cold air surrounding the filter in the open as opposed to the filter being exposed mainly from one side. If you think anti-gel would work. I am in. I like the look and the easy. As stated just a little concerned.
with a 2017 6.7l Powerstroke, your savings would only start after 360,000 miles. Stock filters will take you 360,000 miles no problem. Is this really worth it on a modern day super duty? And will people keep their trucks for that amount of miles driven? Some people might.. Something to think about...
Question for you? I have a 2019 f450 the fuel filter is in the middle towards the rear and the connections are at the top of the filter any suggestions?
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod sorry not clear enough, the lower fuel filter isn’t on the front of the tank like the video but the middle of the fuel tank towards the driver side rear wheels question where to mount the bracket? Thought you may have an idea since you work on these trucks
After watching the last video S&S did on water going through their DCR pump and the fuel system I have a hard time going away from the stock fuel filters. I think rather than modifying your filter system just spend the money on a bullet proof fuel pump and ditch that CP4.
How well do you think that would work on the S & B larger fuel tank ?? Maybe not so good because it is longer. ??
Look at their website they have a kit for aftermarket fuel tanks
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod OK…..now I feel stupid…..sorry for wasting the KING’S time……..lol, thanks ARod.
Bless you my sonn 🧞♂️
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Thank you for not having me executed…….love you man. Lol
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Where you notched out the shield for the hoses. Go to any auto parts store and buy a set of black thin self sticking door edge guards. You can cut lengths needed to go in those square rough cut outs. This will give it a finished smooth edge to look good and will protect the hoses from chaffing.
Good idea. OEM look.
Nice looking kit. Wish is were designed a bit differently. Spin around the filter mount 180 degrees in order to shorten the hoses. I'm concerned about my fuel lines being so exposed.
Just put this on my truck. I have the factory 48 gallon tank with the long bed. Filter mounts with the same hardware just longer hoses because the fuel block bracket mounts to the drivers side forward bed mount bolt they put have a hole in the bracket and give you a big flat washer and nut no need to take the nut off the bed mount bolt very solid and the hoses get routed over the frame rail. Also no plastic shield to modify. Down side is the filter is outside the main frame rails. Plus side you don’t need to crawl under to drain or change.
Gravy baby
Good to know. My longbed should be delivered in the next week or so and this is on my to do list!
Killlller
So glad I found this comment. I just ordered this setup two days ago and called HS-M and asked them if I had to take the caged nut off to install this. Good thing I don’t because I’ve got a 91 gallon rds combo sitting right over that bolt and didn’t want to have to remove the tank for that one bolt. 🙏🏼
For anyone doing this mod I can confirm the Donaldson P553203 which is a superior filter at 3 microns absolute instead of 10-15 like the cat filters and works with the HSM lower. You can also install P569758 bowl so you can see the fuel and if there’s any water that needs drained.
The 3 micron rating is better than the upper stock filter at 4 microns.
I can also confirm that Baldwin BF46228 fits the HSM upper kit and offers superior filtration compared to the BF7967 at 4 microns absolute vs 4 microns nominal 15 microns absolute. The BF46228 is just a little longer maybe half an inch.
@himni1, I also use this Donaldson filter with the clear sight bowl on my 2012 I made a very similar set up and like you said, straight out of the tank to a 3 micron filter is superior then most.
Another sweet video. Looks clean and much easier to spin on a new filter!
Great video. You've got me developing a list of things I need to consider once I get my 6.7 350
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Have you looked at the Black Market Performance front and rear filter replacements? They appear to be a much simpler design and run CAT filters as well. No exposed hoses on the rear setup and you don't have to disconnect the fuel lines on the front filter housing to change the filter.
No
I saw that one. I liked the way the hoses are out of the way, and how the filter is tucked up against the fuel cell. I'm not really sure if I like how the bracket attaches to the plastic piece. Any thoughts on that?
@@tonypippin9097 Agreed
FYI for anyone installing this kit, HSM said the fittings in the hoses can be twisted or spun for proper hose alignment, the way my fittings were positioned in the hoses from them kept putting a slight kink in one of the hoses. The fittings almost need to be 90 degrees from each other to aid in proper positioning. Mine were pointing the same direction. Hope this helps if you find yours doing the same.
Thanks for all your videos. I’m going to change my plastic oil pan on 2011 6.7 with new metal pan can I reuse the old bolts?
No new bolts
I've always been in the habit of per-filling my fuel filters. But then all my rigs have had the old mechanical pumps
Looks to be the low point in the system is still the OEM housing. A question for HSM: where will the water collect?
Water is heavier than diesel and collects in the bottom of the filter.
@@barrymcockener4336Don't you want it to collect at the sensor? And be able to drain it from very close to the sensor?
Nice system, I would like to see a psi gauge post filter to monitor lift pump, other than that it looks perfect, and I bet it pays for it self with cheaper filter cost, and better filtering.
Thanks Brotha.... as i've commented before, this and upper HSM kits are on the list of updates for the '17 Duty.... XMas is approaching😎😎
Better tell sannnnny aka wifey
I'd much rather see 180 degree fittings at the plate that reside inside the plastic removable cover. Then hoses would be on top, shorter, and route easier. What are specs on Cat filter as far as micron rating... What is the distinct advantage besides bragging rights at the campground?
I like the 2 notches in the cover, nice job
TU
That’s a slick fuel filter setup from HSM
Ya Buddy 👦, great video! A year had past scince video. There are newer styles. Which is the best option now a days? ☕️ ☕️ ☕️
Hsm buddd
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod HSM all the way for the win.
SPE has a better system with two cat filters below, they move the top filter down with the water separator. Its fantastic.
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I purchased Black Market Diesel Company's version of the lower fuel filter upgrade. It requires removal of (3) quick release clips from the top of the fuel filter housing and (1) from the side. They provided no instructions and refer to a You Tube video that skips some of the steps. Any advice how to release these clips? I wish I would have purchased the HSM lower filter Upgrade.
Yeah i wish i had a video for that, im sorry brother. I wlda got the hsm
Excellent video as always sir. I must have!!!
Thanks for the video. I had the cat filter upgrade kits on my 2020 Ram 3500 and now that I am in a 2022 F350 I was looking for fuel filters upgrade kits for it as well. I will be ordering this next week along with the upper kit as well. Thanks for the great videos.
Hsm guys good dudes
Interesting setup. Firmly believe the SPE version is a lot better. Replaces the entire plastic housing, and the filters screw right the new manifold.
.....good luck with that
Have you found that the factory water separator is insufficient or inferior to this?
Good question.....what's the advantage? What's the reason to spend $400+ on this?
Sounds like the pros are:
1. Cheaper filter
2. Metal drain on the filter instead of plastic OEM.
3. Cleaner job to swap filters.
Really like this! Seems much easier to change the filter now. Change it out every 10,000? Great video!
Shoooooot ima change that f...ker out err LOF CUZ i cannnnnn 😝😝😝
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod 🙌🏻
Just happend on this video. Id like to see how the filter kits mount on the long bed trucks with the bigger tanks.
Watch our short with the cat filter pic
Another trinket to add to the list.
Nice install man
Wow that looks good nice work ARod thanks buddy
Great setup!
This filter adaption is actually worthwhile although, for myself not possible. I have a Titan 55 gallon tank and that crossmember is utilized for the front tank supports. Great install and instruction ARod!
Read my comments, they have em for aftermarket tanks guy
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I’ll have a look. Thanks again ARod
@@vais3 the aftermarket take ones mount on the bed Mount I do believe
@@codyphillips48 could make for a bit more noise from the body in that case. The filter head can be mounted with some homemade plates to frame holes that are threaded too. Lots of possibilities for sure thanks to the lower filter adapter plate they developed.
To add to this. The CAT filter doesn’t meet filtration spec. Ford primary filter is 10 micron absolute and can filter 96% of emulsified water. Baldwin is 13 micron absolute and does meet water filtration spec. The Donaldson P550847 does meet both filtration and water emulsion filtration specs. Just thought I’d add to this. I am rather curious if the WIF sensor will correctly operate too. The water will drop out in the water separator/filter. They may make a filter that has a WIF provision but I don’t think the stock sensor would work in that situation. Might be possible to wire in an aftermarket sensor into the loop that would still trigger an accurate response if we knew the circuit values.
Aaron when it comes to all the fuel system changes how does it affect fuel flow? I’m also curious have you had a customer with a disaster prevention kit come in with a pump failure?
No yet!!
ARod making house calls, the Doctor is in…👊🏻🇺🇸
Lezz do it
Nice install
Why Ford went to all that plastic sh*t, glad to see a kit made to convert things to spin ons makes servicing so much easier. I'm not a fan of the cartridge system that's used on the 6.0 the HFCM is awful I dread changing that filter. Myself I would have prefilled that filter with Diesel Kleen not right full mind you may be half. My procedure I always write the date and kilometers or hours on spin on fuel filters.
Great instal I just Wish they had it for the 2016 super duty
Same
Any lower filter upgrades for the 11-16 crowd?
Yes, they have that kit on their site.
Cheaper filters, easier replacement and not made of plastic 🤙🏼 would this change anything if a repair is needed under warranty?
No sir
Do I really need to touch the upper fuel filter after I switch to this … as fuel filtered through the cat then fed up , so filter in engine bay just getting clean fuel anyways
Another very informative vid. ARod. Like the HSM kit way better than the SPE kit, since one of two the SPE filters hangs scary low - lower than fuel tank skid plate (yikes!). Would you recommend adding a quick wrap of teflon Thread tape or gel sealant on the fittings (or would fuel just degrade it ? I always prime my “upside down” fuel & oil filters. Am i doing it wrong? I like that you zip tied the lines. Always a concern for lines snagging / getting snagged by something when off road (or when your mother in law is napping on the driveway).
Looks really clean, so how often and is this application more cost effective?
Most CAT fuel filters are manufactured by Baldwin (and cost more).
ARod…why not just install a FASS lift pump and totally get rid of both factory filters? Then you can simply buy a water separator and fuel filter of any brand of your choice, and they install in the same place. Here you still have one under the hood and one under the truck. With a FASS lift pump, you can also add 2 fuel heaters I believe. What do you think about that?
Maybe well just have to see
Is the Cat filter that much better than stock with this system, only just picked up on this video. Great videos and content.
Cat is okay but we switched to the Donaldson filter with the clear bowl
Pregunta master. Cual. La. Different entre esa parte ke estas poniedo Ala la otra ke kistaste
Have you ever lapped the male and female ends with valve lapping compound ?? We did it with all our Russell AN fitting
No but i shld have
I like your kitty cat
🙊😻 lil kiss & not tell
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@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I'll kiss and not tell and have sweet dreams about it
I'll keep you my dirty little secret, No-one has to know! 💋
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@@FordBossMe Don't be movin' in on MY territory...
How many times do you have to cycle the key, 22’ 250 and what’s the Donaldson Clear bubble comparable to that Cat filter instead? Lemme know! Thanks for the killer video!
6 times 10 secs each time. We made a short. Donaldson clear bowl filter was way better
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Do you know the Donaldson Bubble Filter swap part number? If not, I’ll comb the comments.
The filter p/n is P553203
The bowl p/n is P569758
Hope that helps
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod You’re the phucking man! Of course it helps! 💯
Do the cat filters offer better filtration? I see alot of guys switching to them just not sure why. Is it just the ease of changing the filter?
I called HSM they said the CAT filter has the same specs as the OEM filter
Does fuel still fill the old filter cartridge area, wondering if the water sensor is still able to detect.
Ya
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod with those two tubes and o-rings, why would fuel still fill the filter housing? I see that your WIF sensor is there, but you now have unfiltered fuel and no control over its movement.
What do you think about the lower filter kit from black market performance for 2021 ford 6.7
Any difference when installing on the S&B aftermarket tank where the filter is in the middle of the tank? i ordered the kit for aftermarket tank but haven't experimented yet. Coming up on 15k miles and will install then.
Installed mine today but I’ve having issues with mine it has a humming sound coming from under the hood pulled off my filter down at the frame rail and it wasn’t primed from doing the cycle I filled it up and tried priming the system again and I still have a humming sound any help on where to check all my lines are good and tight.
Thanks for the help
U better make SURE those hoses are on the correct fitting...in ALL CAPS.......MAKE SURE!!!!!!!!!!!
Out -> In -> New Filter -> Out -> In
Curious about the OEM filter mesh size. I am considering installing an additional spin on 2 micron filter right on the line.
I have both H&S fuel filter kits but have been delaying on installing because I thought the bottom one would be harder than this to install. Thanks for the video as always. Can you see very much of the CAT filter or very little? That's my only worry.
Its tucked up there baby
Invisible until you crawl under. Can’t tell walking around the truck.
Very nice system. My only concern is doesn’t that bypass the sensor for water?
No
If you think the water collects at the bottom of the filter so you can drain it, then it sure does bypass the sensor.
Couple questions? Just was thinking of the placement of fuel water separator since OEM it looks like the filter is placed well below the pump in tank, wouldn't placing that aftermarket filter higher, I can't tell if it's below the pump or above? couldn't that cause more air entrapment? Also with road vibration aren't the hoses more susceptible to damage due to rubbing against plastic protector?
The plate also has a water drain.
@@codyphillips48 when does fuel ever sit at the plate? He reinstalled the WIF sensor, but it appears the two tubes run all the way up the housing and now that entire cavity should sit void. Right?
@@wildisland5320 the filtered side has 4 half circles cut into the top of the tube. It will still fill the filter house with fuel.
@@codyphillips48 so the cavity sits with filtered fuel? I assume this is how the WIF sensor remains relevant?
@@wildisland5320 yes
so cool I need a set up like that
Gotta get you hooked up Bub
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod absolutely I’ve been checking out a bunch of the upgrades you have done, looks like lots of great upgrades for this platform
6.7 by far thee best
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Its a beast I love it so far
I have a question for you sir i have a 2017 PSD with an aftermarket 60 gallon S&B fuel tank in my truck was in it whenever i got it, the black plastic triangle piece that holds the housing to the tank broke. How hard is it to remove the fuel filter housing from the truck, do i have to drop the tank to do so so I can replace the mounting bracket ?
Watch my fuel pump video
Cool, but what makes it better than oem?
So the old filter housing just turns into a big water separator that can no longer be drained?
Maybe ya missed the drain plug there on the manifold.....
After seeing that water in the fuel can cause these filters to rust on the inside and then grenade your HPFP, I'll be sticking with the OEM Ford Cartridge filter.
Not these bub
Arod, what will this extra filter accomplish? Is it disaster prevention? I didn’t read through the comments.. thx
Brother, then you must watch the video. I'm not sure how you would have missed the focal point of this video had you watched all the way through.....
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod
I must admit, I was in between seeing patients and skipped through parts to try and get the just of it, but I failed to get the right parts. Sorry, I will try and get to the whole video! Thanks
Take care of business my friend, we can wait. 👌🤝🙋♂️
Any chance of debris accumulation around sensor & causing a problem?...but otherwise a great looking piece!!!...you're making my bank account shrink w/all these goodies!!!👍👍😂😂
Lolol, same location as the stock one...so
Yes I know, but you had a drain vale close by(sensor) to flush things out this kit puts drain further away & higher it looks like??
..guess ill have to ask the owner
I'm having a 60 gallon S&B tank put on my 2022....where will the aftermarket tank conversion kit mount?
Yes look at hsm site
Another great video! You put an upper fuel filter mode as well. I can't find it. Did you delete it? I remember you modified the connections which I thought was the way to go but I need to see the video again.
Its there bubby!!🤙
Hey why is my tank making rumbling noises after the install
Everything was installed just like the video
Make sure you put the IN on the filter housing to the OFF on the big aluminum manifold. In to out....& out to in. Go swap the lines
Can I email you some pictures
Thank you for responding so much 🙏🙏🙏
Emails in description
Are there any warranty concerns with this mod?
No
How often do u have to change or drain that filter ??
I looked at my 2019 Alumaduty dully with the 48 gallon tank, where do I mount the filter?
They have one for wlb
You mentioned the S&B larger fuel tank during this install video. Will the HSM lower filter kit work with the larger, 60 gallon S&B fuel tank?
Also, SPE just came out with a fuel filtering kit for the upper and lower fuel filters. Are you familiar with the SPE kit? Which kit would you recommend now? Thanks.
Hsm all day. Yes they have an aftermarket tank set up!! Read the BBB for thee other brand......
the ones who don't see the benefit never broke a drain plug on sunday 🤣
lol I haer ya
Where is Arod located? Was wondering cause I need some work on F350.
DETROIT
I also looked at lower filter Upgrade kits made by Black Market Performance, they take a different approach by removing the entire filter system. Do you have any comments or concerns
I have a 2022 6.7 and I don't want to modify the OE upper and lower filter systems while under warranty. Want to be able to put return to stock in case of warranty claim.
Hsm only.....and i wldnt be worrying about a warranty claim. Read the sticker over your left head lamp
I like the concept of the product but, I hate the location for the new filter. The new location leaves the filter more exposed, compared to the stock location. I’m also not a fan of the fuel lines and how they were routed out in the open. I think it would be better if HSM designed the kit to run the lines tucked to the frame rail.
Cant tuck nothing in these all exposed bud
The upgrades are awesome. Having to upgrade a $100k+ truck with stuff that should've been done in the first place, not so awesome.
Tell Dearborn that
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod like they care.
@REL3712 exactly, why i told em to get phucked
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARodI get that. But, we're left to decide exactly which so-called upgrades are really worth the hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars they cost. What is the REAL return on investment other than the cool factor? Stay true to yourself bro. Don't let advertisers corrupt your character. I'm confident what you say you actually believe to be true. That's a rare trait in this "sell yourself out" world. See you in the next video. 💪
@REL3712 everything IN MY MOD playlist are all true and factual items I use
The problem I see with this is the water sensor is still on the old housing and doesn't look like it will be functional for the new filter also no more drain valve on the old housing, I imagine water will still separate in the old housing. I don't know for sure but it looks like something I'd be concerned about. I would like to add a filter like this in addition to the stock cartridge though
I thought the same. The only reason I would buy is the ease of changing filter but what the price is for this kit kills that.
....sometimes i guess its hard for you all to think outside of the box....
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Unfortunately have to think and live outside the box all the time in my line of work then when things like this come along it's back into the OEM box saving $500. Using that towards other things more important friend.
Those AN lines look like Push-Loc. Those should NEVER be used on a fuel. Too many failures have happened as the barbs are the only retention that the hose has. A crimp on style fitting would be WAY better for this style application.
I have a question what is the difference between a 6r 140 and a 6r 140 transmission I can't seem to get any information
Between a 6R140 & a 6R140?? Huh??
That was a r 6140 and a R6 140w transmission the sticker inside my door calls for a w which is a r 6140 w
The transmissions in 11-19 ford superdutys are 6R140. Thats it
Nice looking unit but it won't fit on my water separator. Well, it will fit but I can't install the filter bracket. I have fuel tank fore and aft of the ws and my ws is rotated 90 degrees so it is facing the truck frame. So the bracket for the remote filter will not mount. Bummer, huh?
They have two kits for OE tank & Aftermarket tanks
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I'll check it out. But I don't have an aftermarket tank. It is the 48 gallon tank on the long bed.
Short bed, long bed, aftermarket tank is their three choices guy...
My next project have the s@b 60 gallon tank
Watching video! Need oil and fuel filters change, can you hook me up next week?
End of, busy asf
Great video! I want this set up too!
So I just went to order the kit but noticed when ordering that it has several kits. One mentioned aftermarket fuel tank. I plan on getting the same s and b tank you installed last month. Should I wait until I receive the new tank?
If ur gettin an s&b get the after market tank kit from hsm
Get the kit for the after market tank and it’ll work with the factory tank until you swap tanks.
By any chance do you know where I can find this ad on? I look on their website and is not even listed on there
Google hsm homie
In what sense is this an upgrade? I am not sure what is the benefit of spending $480 for this.
Better filtration? - Cheaper filter replacement cost? - Long filter change cycle?
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Also curious, the OEM filters are not that difficult to change, certainly not if this kit is near $500!
Do you know if a kit for a 2016 250 or if this would be very hard to make work on a 16
Brother there's no way that this kit will work for your truck look at your fuel pump and look at this one.... HSM is coming out with 1 for 11-16s
PowerStroke Tech Talk w/ARod okay cool, I was gonna jerry rig something but I’ll just wait that being the case. Looking forward to the install vid on that one!
Why didn't they do U bolts instead?
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can you recommended anything for the 11-16 SD?
Im workin on that, been gettin asked often now
Sweet mod!
Up to this point, you weren’t holding your tongue right. 06:03
Not sure if your the one I should ask but living in the Northeast would this set up be prone to gelling in the filter and lines??
Do u add additive
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Yes I do. Checking because bin Vermont a couple of days was -12 and with the filter kinda just sitting out there was wondering if anti-gel would be enough. I live the idea just a little worried.
How would this be any different If the fuel is still in the same atmosphere it's still not a gel whether you have this or not
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod would think kinda like a bridge. More cold air surrounding the filter in the open as opposed to the filter being exposed mainly from one side. If you think anti-gel would work. I am in. I like the look and the easy. As stated just a little concerned.
I would be using anti gel if you are in the freezing temps regardless if I had this filter or not
with a 2017 6.7l Powerstroke, your savings would only start after 360,000 miles. Stock filters will take you 360,000 miles no problem. Is this really worth it on a modern day super duty? And will people keep their trucks for that amount of miles driven? Some people might.. Something to think about...
Question for you?
I have a 2019 f450 the fuel filter is in the middle towards the rear and the connections are at the top of the filter any suggestions?
What
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod sorry not clear enough, the lower fuel filter isn’t on the front of the tank like the video but the middle of the fuel tank towards the driver side rear wheels question where to mount the bracket? Thought you may have an idea since you work on these trucks
Shld have instructions with the kit. I have not done one od those yet
Will only work with stock fuel tank, correct?
They have 1 for stock and aftermarket......
You said drain it once a month dose that mean you don't need to replace the cat filter???
Correct
It looks like my 60 gallon S&B tank would not be compatible with this mounting option.
Yea they have kits for aftmrkt tanks
After watching the last video S&S did on water going through their DCR pump and the fuel system I have a hard time going away from the stock fuel filters. I think rather than modifying your filter system just spend the money on a bullet proof fuel pump and ditch that CP4.
They rusted cuz there was no drain
Do they make this for trucks prior to 2017?
Werkin on it
I don’t think that will work with my titan tank 🙁, at least not with the same filter location.
They have a kit for diff tanks....
Would this or the upper fuel filter mod affect the factory warranty?
No
I want one!