These IEMs are so tiny and comfortable. They also have great isolation. And the sound... They're just so fantastic. Thanks for the review! I really love my IE200!
I own both, and reluctantly admits that I think the ie 200 are better.. They are also 2 years newer, and it is probably heavily down to personal preferenc, but the ie 200 sound is phenomenal. For my ears the treble is way better, and I can listen for hours almost forgetting that I am wearing earphones. Something I can’t with the ie 600. Both are great, but the quality/price for the ie 200 is ridiculous.
The tuning definitely looks more pleasant than the IE600, but how much would we sacrifice in technicalities is the real question. Not only detail, but staging, imaging, separation, layering, clarity. I guess we'll have to wait for the reviews.
The believe that "technicalities", something which may or may not even exist, is tied to price, makes you look like a muppet. Like all those wine reviewers, who could not tell apart expensive from cheap in blind testing but would rate the expensive one higher in sighted testing, yall are falling vicitm to confirmation bias!
I never said it had anything to do with price. DMS said that the IE600 is more technically capable and I was wondering how big the gap is. I personally trust DMS's thoughts because my thoughts are usually in line with his. If it's not the case for you then what are you doing here? Also, just because you don't hear a difference in technical performance doesn't mean that there isn't one.
I have both since i dont want to take 600 out of home so here’s my 2 cents. 600 is much more clear more details by almost a lot, in fact ive used 600 with Apple usb c to 3.5mm adapter, it still has better clarity, punch to vocals and much more intimacy than 200 with Helm Bolt. Sometimes at work with 200 i felt like ive been less stressed if i had 600 with me but then again it is 3x in price
This will be my new default recommendation for the $100-$200 price bracket. Replaces the Timeless/S12/KATO, mainly because of the smaller size and Sennheiser's global warranty
Great job walking us through this new addition to the audiophile IEM range! This might end up an all-time classic due to the inviting and warm signature that works well with just about any genre (much like the IE 600).
sennheiser sticking to the same shape on so many headphones and in ears is such a smart move. They nail the comfort in both situations for me. Makes it really hard to swap off of their products 😢
I’ve got the IE300 just today and am now seeing this one. I’d gladly save return these if he thought they sounded better/comparable. I’d be using them with that bass setup too.
This is such a good review- Always appreciate your insight! I have always been a Sennheiser fan. However, how would this stack up against other "high end" CHIFi like the 7hz Timeless? Would the IE 200 be good for critical listening like the Classical or jazz genre?
Not the same comparison, but… I have both a BLON BL-03 and IE 300. And they seem to both have great bass response and balance of frequency response curve. However, the IE 300 just has better timbre; it is more detailed and cleaner than the budget champ, better able to create a depth of soundstage (though “out of your head” is very subjective), like a straight upgrade in performance. Sure, the BLON is cheaper, but I don’t have temptation to go back.
I tried the IE600 at a store and I was blown away by the sound stage. The bass and treble performance was awesome too, easily the best V shaped tuning I’ve heard, even if the treble is a little too hot for me. IE200 looks like it’ll fit right in with me.
I own IE 200s and they sound great! Tip-rolled them with Spinfit CP145s and they now sound even better with a slightly wider soundstage. The SPL value on these is deceptive, though. Need good amplification to perform well.
Wow! The “dual tuning” option depending on where the ear-tips are is awesome. What a fantastic idea, not surprised that Sennheiser of all companies came up with something as clever as this. This is great for me, as I often change my listening preferences back and forth regularly from wanting a bass shelf to not wanting a bass shelf. Depends on what mood I’m in lol. Ordering one of these IE 200’s ASAP!!
Hey DMS. A while back you provided a very positive review for the moondrop Aria, saying they punch way above their price. Could you please give us just an ideea on how would this ie 200 compare to the moondrop Aria? I m sure a lotta people have those, would be a nice comparison to get an idea on how these sound. Many thanks and keep up the great work man! All the good things!
The IE 200 are more comparable to the Kato (which he compares to a bit about in the video) and in general the Kato are regarded as better than the Aria by a fair bit. While sound is very subjective I would be surprised if most people rated the Aria as better than the IE 200. Though some people might prefer the tuning / sound signature of the Aria the IE 200 are likely to be better in most ways. Whether it's worth paying the extra for them is up to each individual person.
I would really like to see your opinion on the salnotes zero. I bought into the hype and was not disappointed. They have an almost perfect tonality and detail is also decent imo. I think they might be the best bang for the buck in all of the personal audio world right now.
Agreed. I stupidly sold mine a few days ago and just before packing it up, I gave it one last listen and reminded myself how good they actually are. They very nearly hold up to my £130 studio headphones (Koss Pro4S). All they lack is soundstage which is understandable obviously considering they’re IEMs. Everything else is great
As Shure 215 and 535 have been pretty popular for years. It would be great to hear your thoughts on them in order to build a frame of reference/context for owners of those IEMs to better understand your review on the new IEMs. I use my IEMs while wearing a helmet so I really like the size of the Sennheiser. But I'm not sold on the semi-proprietary connector. Also, if these sound similar to my Shure SE215 I would definitely pass.
All my chifi is still going strong after years of usage. My ie600 stopped working for no reason. Claiming chifi has worse qc has long been debunked buddy...
Came for the review of the IEM's got mesmerized by the desk lamp that thing is so sick. Anyone else feeling it? I would love to see a review of the desk lamp. 😂😂😂
Awesome review can't wait to have them. The dual position reminds me of the Beyerdynamics custom 1pro headphones which It would be interesting to see some reviewers revisit them.
Thanks for the video! I like my IE200 which I acquired recently, but I really dislike the cable, have you found a 3rd party cable that's compatible? (with a 3.5mm end)? Thanks again.
The IE600 can also change the position of the tip or at least mine can. Also, anyone with an IE600 should try it with a 75 ohm resistor adapter. It makes them wider, more detailed , and calms the treble, and ups the sub-bass slightly.
On the older in-ears it's 99% an ergonomic feature, with some slight change to sound due to change of geometry. On the IE 200 there is a dedicated vent for a dramatic change of bass response.
And thanks for mentioning that you can snip off the collars. I was using some crappy adapters before. 5 minutes plus a pair of Gundam model clippers and now I can use any of my cables!
@@justspaztik yes for sure, but thankfully all is ok. I really didn't like the stock cables, especially the right angle plugs. I did study them carefully prior and waited until I was sure they were not defective.
Would consider if they've improved in the build quality of whatever is wrong with the IE300, which cause one of the sides to randomly cut out, had to RMA mine after a month. The weird thing with it was, if you pressed on the IEM while in your ear, it makes it work again, but it's not like the hard plastic shell flexes much, so I can't imagine what's going on with the IE300 to have that issue. It's not just me as well, plenty of people out there complain of the same thing.
Funny you should mention this. Not even a year after having my IE 400 Pro, the right bud just died on me yesterday 🙁 Time for a warranty claim. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah it is the cable unfortunately. Bought a different brand (had to cut of a bit so it fits) and now it work flawlessly. Although I’m really interested if those ie200 cables would fix the issue as well.
I have been using my ie300s as an EDC IEM for almost a year now. The ie600 came out right after I got them, no wonder they were on sale. I got a custom adapter in order in order to swap cables, trimming them never occurred to me. I think I would prefer the cable on the ie200s, however I wish they would do away with the bendy ear hook. That being said, would it make sense for me to add the ie200 to my collection? The frequency response looks more appealing to me but is it enough of a departure to justify owning both? Perhaps I would be better off with a different driver type for my next IEM...
Looks like the 200 would be more of a crossgrade or replacement for the 300 with a slightly different sound signature. I don't think it would make sense to own both personally.
Hey @DMS What do you think of the IE 200 compared to the IE 100 Pro that you reviewed a while back? I know you said they reminded you of the HD 560s. Which over ear headphone would you relate the IE 200 to? Thank you :-)
I fell in love with the Etymotic ER3XR, except for the fit. I can wear them for maybe forty five minutes. Your review has me thinking these would make me just as happy, maybe happier. Care to give me your thoughts about that? Thank you. Also, I am originally from where you are now, do you have a favorite hang out?
Hey! Thanks for the comment. So compared to the ER3XR, the IE200 will have a little less 2k-3khz and a little more bass. Other than that they look fairly similar, but it depends on if that ear-gain change is a deal breaker or not. Buffalo has been fun! In the summers here I've really enjoyed Delaware Park and the bike trails near the Japanese gardens 😄
@@DMS3TV Even during the mild part of winter Buffalo has a lot to love. I lived near Stiglmeier park. Might be a dumb question but have you been to the Old Pink Flamingo on Allen st. That was my hangout. Thank you for thee response.
You can get both, as they are often on sale. While the IE600 is overall better, I don't feel comfortable taking them outside given their price. The IE200 is perfect for a portable setup. The sound is still great, the comfort is unmatched, and I love the stealthy, professional design too. It wouldn't feel as bad if I accidentally lost or damaged the IE200 while listening on the go since I can always find them for around 100 bucks.
The ie600 sounds better all round than the ie200. More detail, depth, emotional engagement. And beats every other IEM I have (and is built to last). I'm using uncompressed lossless with a variety or sources (inc A&K se180baks lg v60). DACs include Chord Mojo 2 and Onix Alpha.
Picking up a pair tomorrow for 172 Kiwi pesos, which is just over 100 USD. Big box retailers must be hurting as they're discounting cans like crazy down here.
@@Meme_Connaisseur IE300 is well acclaimed and is still available, so I don't know where did you get information about end of life? IE600 is niche because of price not many people got it so not many have reference. IE300 much more popular and similar discount price to IE200 regular price. This is a product people decide wheter to get IE300 or IE200 not IE200 or IE600. Those with budget will not be getting IE200 instead of IE600. If at all most likely as a complimentary IEM to already owned IE900/IE600.
The 300 was somewhat polarizing for reviewers. I’d check out frequency response charts and reviews of the 300 and see how they differ from these and which suite your tastes more. The 200 is less likely to be “offensive” vs the 300. They seem better balanced in the FR.
the only thing i don't like about the ie600 is that onme of the cables rotates rather easily on the connector, which gets in the way a bit when putting it on
I can't get the Sennheiser tips to stay in my ears, I loose the seal too easily. I have been using Campfire Audio small foam tips. I do use the small foam insert from inside the ie300 tips, so no specks of ear wax get into the IEM's. The CA foam is longer, and works better for my ear canal size. I was concerned that small foam insert could end up inside my ears, but so far they don't move.
@@marzcapone9939 No, I never had those issues. I do use q-tips everyday after showering though. I also very rarely pocket iems. Super reviews also recommended the softears UC tips for ther IE lineup. I have yet to try them but they also dont have a wax shield.
IE200 and IE600 use different drivers. Their frequency response is different on the sennheiser website. IE 200 is capable to producing sound from 10hz to 20khz while the IE600 does all the way from 3hz to 45khz. I think IE600 and IE900 use different materials in their drivers compared to IE300 and 200. So even if you EQ them you can't get the same technicalities as the expensive iems.
Actually the IE200,600 and 900 all use the same 7mm dynamic driver according to the Sennheiser website. Here’s the quote from the IE200 page: The IE 200 takes advantage of some of the best in-ear technology we have to offer. The 7mm extra-wideband True Response transducer, for instance, exhibits virtually no harmonic distortion at all. That’s why you’ll also find it in our IE 300, IE 600 and IE 900.
@@mucklechumps they use the same shape and housing, but materials such as diaphragms, coils, magnets etc are different. The impedance, sensitivity and range also varies from one to the other.
@thesaniwaa with all due respect, the drivers are the same. Same cone material, same voice coil, same magnet. I know the designer. You are right that the shells and acoustic chambers are different.
HD 6XX is not super natural. It is very warm and thus the treble is missing. Please describe how you determine timbre-I would hope your explanation is derived from experiences in the real world with either playing instruments or attending performances in person.
I literally have never hand a more opposite reaction to any product DMS has reviewed. The IE200 experience was nowhere near the experience from the Kato. The Microphonic on the Ie200 is some of the absolute worst I’ve ever heard in my life. And the tips create pressure and headaches. With the Kato… for the quality, feel, and sound right out of the box is just outstanding. I didn’t have to change out the cables because they are so high quality. I didn’t have find more tips.. the spring tips work to perfection. I put in the gold nozzles and everything is killer, lush, timbre is great , details snd separation is beautiful. But with the IE 200 the left driver is more powerful than the right, the cable sucks, and the stability is off because the tips don’t seal very well. The first thing you do when you buy a product should be to correct their mistakes. And with the Kato I get exactly what I need and more right out of the box.
second option is for singing on stage, cause you will get that low rumble in your head, and plus bass from iem - it can be overwhelming and hard to get your tone/pitch right
is there any reason to get this if i already have the kato and the 7hz timeless? does it provide a different enough listening experience from those two to make it worth cycling between them?
in my opinion this line up from Sennheiser is worth getting due to the comfort. I have never been an IME guy, but I needed to switch to earbuds for my commute in order to give my neck some rest, this chassis from Sennheiser was the most comfortable by far. if you are truly enjoying the signature from those earphones you mentioned then you might not enjoy the sennys very much. but if you are opened to listen at your music with a different presentation then I think the experience is worth it as part of the hobby
Sennheiser seems to intimate that the same 7mm driver is used in the 200/300/600/900 products. Is this actually true? If so, why the huge price disparities? There should be little to no cost in tuning differences. I can understand cost differences for different housing materials or accessories but, in my mind, the cost disparities between the different models seem excessive. Please explain if you can.
@@drewmorg. And yet somehow there are sub $100 iem’s with a metal build. If you go up to $200 there are some metal iem’s with tremendous build like the Moondrop Kato.
@@arthurhaywood2184 The kato look cheap and nothing like the special harmonic internal chambers the Senn IE series have in their upper models. You rarely hear the IE 600 called overpriced for what they deliver. I have purchased so called Chi Fi KZ ZAS with a bunch of BA drivers and I returned in a few days. The comfort was bad and sound was just ok. Lots of deep bass. I think Chi Fi specializes in a) cheap and b) variety.
I'm really curious and itching to buy the ie200. I recently bought an iem (thankfully 50% off) supposedly in the 300€ range that was hailed all across the board which left me quite a lot disappointed. I don't know if it's just not my cup of tea or if the audiophile community is shilling or biased and gets easily excited about every chifi iem aroundthe corner. Long story short, now I have trust issues and I'd like to explore an established quality brand. How do you find the vocals, soundstage and note definition on these? Is there really a better vocal iem out there in the same price range (under 150€)?
Depends if you think you would prefer the sound of the IE 200 based on the frequency response compared to the 600. I think a lot of people would be happy with the 200 based on what we're seeing in this review but its very subjective. If you're having buyers remorse or want the money for other things it's worth considering. The price difference could buy you a pretty nice set of over ear headphones or a DAC/AMP like the Qudelix 5K which is fantastic for IEMs or even headphones to EQ with. IMO the IE 200 and the Qudelix would be a great combo and I'm planning to get the 200 for that reason (I already have the Qudelix)
I have the ie600 that I power by an ifi blu, that’s my on the move setup lately. I love them to bits, this ie200 sounds interesting, but I will not use it more so no point in buying!:-)
I hope this isn’t entirely based on tuning. Tuning matters so much less for IEMs since they’re supposed to be on the go. Technicalities matter far more
Bro don’t you ever compare any iem to AirPods Pro AirPods Pro is not even in the league of the cheapest 15 dollars Kz iem Just talk bout something else
So whats the 1:1 $20-100 clone of the 600/900 for ppl tired of forking $500-700 for these things. It does get a bit ridiculous when they can now easily 3d print them and snap the parts together.
I have the same questions as I’m debating between the two. The 200 is likely better from a purely musical perspective but the AirPods Pro 2 has such a huge feature set and they’re truly wireless bud so they have a huge value proposition.
@@speechruin That's true of any truly wireless earbud (TWS) and kind of an unfair comparison. You can make kind of the same claim about any battery powered vs wall powered device. There's way more to it than that when comparing these to kinds of headphones. If running out of battery is a big concern for a headphone shopper then I don't think a TWS IEM is the right choice for them at all.
The dual tuning is shite. Great iems though, once you replace the cable and tips (stock foams are decent though). Also taping the nozzle if you don’t have tips with a tighter core.
Watching your video quality skyrocket from the early days to videos like this is awesome. Keep it up DMS!
These IEMs are so tiny and comfortable. They also have great isolation. And the sound... They're just so fantastic.
Thanks for the review! I really love my IE200!
Looks like I'm going to need to get my hands on these!
I own both, and reluctantly admits that I think the ie 200 are better.. They are also 2 years newer, and it is probably heavily down to personal preferenc, but the ie 200 sound is phenomenal. For my ears the treble is way better, and I can listen for hours almost forgetting that I am wearing earphones. Something I can’t with the ie 600. Both are great, but the quality/price for the ie 200 is ridiculous.
Agree 100%!
If both were priced the same what would u pick.? Are they the same in terms of Soundstage etc
Sennheiser ie 200 + shio dac + poweramp eq premade super reviewer = kilobuck iem
@@Daniel-lq5qq noob question, what’s “poweramp eq”?
I love my IE 600... the video title got me for a second... I agree with your comments regarding volume.
The tuning definitely looks more pleasant than the IE600, but how much would we sacrifice in technicalities is the real question. Not only detail, but staging, imaging, separation, layering, clarity.
I guess we'll have to wait for the reviews.
This review says the imaging and even staging to a degree is pretty impressive. ua-cam.com/video/5Q6A89EPH70/v-deo.html
The believe that "technicalities", something which may or may not even exist, is tied to price, makes you look like a muppet. Like all those wine reviewers, who could not tell apart expensive from cheap in blind testing but would rate the expensive one higher in sighted testing, yall are falling vicitm to confirmation bias!
I never said it had anything to do with price. DMS said that the IE600 is more technically capable and I was wondering how big the gap is. I personally trust DMS's thoughts because my thoughts are usually in line with his. If it's not the case for you then what are you doing here?
Also, just because you don't hear a difference in technical performance doesn't mean that there isn't one.
I have both since i dont want to take 600 out of home so here’s my 2 cents. 600 is much more clear more details by almost a lot, in fact ive used 600 with Apple usb c to 3.5mm adapter, it still has better clarity, punch to vocals and much more intimacy than 200 with Helm Bolt. Sometimes at work with 200 i felt like ive been less stressed if i had 600 with me but then again it is 3x in price
This will be my new default recommendation for the $100-$200 price bracket. Replaces the Timeless/S12/KATO, mainly because of the smaller size and Sennheiser's global warranty
+ availability and build quality
hows the sound compare to S12/KATO since i own this 2. thanks
Have you listened to it??
urghh I just bought the s12 pros, I wish these came out sooner.
@@zekion. I doubt you'll be disappointed with the S12 Pro. I'm sure these are great, but very low chance they actually compete with a good planar IEM.
Great job walking us through this new addition to the audiophile IEM range! This might end up an all-time classic due to the inviting and warm signature that works well with just about any genre (much like the IE 600).
sennheiser sticking to the same shape on so many headphones and in ears is such a smart move. They nail the comfort in both situations for me. Makes it really hard to swap off of their products 😢
Do you reckon this is better than the IE300 / would it be worth getting if I have the 300s already? Great quality as always!
I’ve got the IE300 just today and am now seeing this one. I’d gladly save return these if he thought they sounded better/comparable. I’d be using them with that bass setup too.
This is such a good review- Always appreciate your insight! I have always been a Sennheiser fan. However, how would this stack up against other "high end" CHIFi like the 7hz Timeless? Would the IE 200 be good for critical listening like the Classical or jazz genre?
Not the same comparison, but… I have both a BLON BL-03 and IE 300. And they seem to both have great bass response and balance of frequency response curve. However, the IE 300 just has better timbre; it is more detailed and cleaner than the budget champ, better able to create a depth of soundstage (though “out of your head” is very subjective), like a straight upgrade in performance. Sure, the BLON is cheaper, but I don’t have temptation to go back.
@@evshrug I’m also using bl03 bow and planning to upgrade to ie300 but now looking for ie 200, will it be a good upgrade?😊
@@NagarajCruze yes
Really tight scripting and editing on this one. Really cool to observe your growth. Thanks for the review!
I am so glad that you didn't compromise your artistic style for your Headphone Show videos. This was great.
now that's a winner. definitely gonna cop this one soon. thanks for your review
I tried the IE600 at a store and I was blown away by the sound stage. The bass and treble performance was awesome too, easily the best V shaped tuning I’ve heard, even if the treble is a little too hot for me. IE200 looks like it’ll fit right in with me.
What store was it?
I own IE 200s and they sound great! Tip-rolled them with Spinfit CP145s and they now sound even better with a slightly wider soundstage. The SPL value on these is deceptive, though. Need good amplification to perform well.
Wow! The “dual tuning” option depending on where the ear-tips are is awesome. What a fantastic idea, not surprised that Sennheiser of all companies came up with something as clever as this.
This is great for me, as I often change my listening preferences back and forth regularly from wanting a bass shelf to not wanting a bass shelf. Depends on what mood I’m in lol.
Ordering one of these IE 200’s ASAP!!
Great review, really interested in how this set compares to others around its price range!
Hey DMS. A while back you provided a very positive review for the moondrop Aria, saying they punch way above their price. Could you please give us just an ideea on how would this ie 200 compare to the moondrop Aria? I m sure a lotta people have those, would be a nice comparison to get an idea on how these sound. Many thanks and keep up the great work man! All the good things!
The IE 200 are more comparable to the Kato (which he compares to a bit about in the video) and in general the Kato are regarded as better than the Aria by a fair bit. While sound is very subjective I would be surprised if most people rated the Aria as better than the IE 200. Though some people might prefer the tuning / sound signature of the Aria the IE 200 are likely to be better in most ways. Whether it's worth paying the extra for them is up to each individual person.
I would really like to see your opinion on the salnotes zero. I bought into the hype and was not disappointed. They have an almost perfect tonality and detail is also decent imo. I think they might be the best bang for the buck in all of the personal audio world right now.
Agreed. I stupidly sold mine a few days ago and just before packing it up, I gave it one last listen and reminded myself how good they actually are. They very nearly hold up to my £130 studio headphones (Koss Pro4S). All they lack is soundstage which is understandable obviously considering they’re IEMs. Everything else is great
Tangzu warner❤️ >7hz zero
As Shure 215 and 535 have been pretty popular for years. It would be great to hear your thoughts on them in order to build a frame of reference/context for owners of those IEMs to better understand your review on the new IEMs.
I use my IEMs while wearing a helmet so I really like the size of the Sennheiser. But I'm not sold on the semi-proprietary connector. Also, if these sound similar to my Shure SE215 I would definitely pass.
Was kinda hoping for more comparisons to the chi-fi crowd, these are really tempting
Most chifi QC/Build quality is shit, don’t listen to the hype, my arias paint chipped after 2 months and S12 shells unglued
All my chifi is still going strong after years of usage. My ie600 stopped working for no reason. Claiming chifi has worse qc has long been debunked buddy...
sorry to ask this, what chifi mean ? (cheap hifi ?)
@@williamwu3457 I guess is chinese-fi.
@@ta114 Goodluck claiming warranty and replacement if the same happened to any of your chifi.
Been waiting for this one! Thanks, DMS!
Came for the review of the IEM's got mesmerized by the desk lamp that thing is so sick. Anyone else feeling it? I would love to see a review of the desk lamp. 😂😂😂
I always push my tip all the way in.
The ie600 sounds bad like that
Awesome review can't wait to have them. The dual position reminds me of the Beyerdynamics custom 1pro headphones which It would be interesting to see some reviewers revisit them.
Thanks for the video! I like my IE200 which I acquired recently, but I really dislike the cable, have you found a 3rd party cable that's compatible? (with a 3.5mm end)? Thanks again.
The IE600 can also change the position of the tip or at least mine can. Also, anyone with an IE600 should try it with a 75 ohm resistor adapter. It makes them wider, more detailed , and calms the treble, and ups the sub-bass slightly.
On the older in-ears it's 99% an ergonomic feature, with some slight change to sound due to change of geometry. On the IE 200 there is a dedicated vent for a dramatic change of bass response.
And thanks for mentioning that you can snip off the collars. I was using some crappy adapters before. 5 minutes plus a pair of Gundam model clippers and now I can use any of my cables!
Thx for the tip, where can i buy this adapter
Interesting. Which adapter do you have specifically?
What adapter exactly?
Lol, I also shaved off the collars on my ie600s for the same reason as you! Definitely going to get a pair! Thanks for the quick review.
Weren't you worried that you were basically damaging your IE 600s? What if you needed to warranty them?
@@justspaztik yes for sure, but thankfully all is ok. I really didn't like the stock cables, especially the right angle plugs. I did study them carefully prior and waited until I was sure they were not defective.
Just to make sure, when you shaved off the collars on your ie600s you could use 3rd party cables right ?
@@roll6301 yes
Would consider if they've improved in the build quality of whatever is wrong with the IE300, which cause one of the sides to randomly cut out, had to RMA mine after a month. The weird thing with it was, if you pressed on the IEM while in your ear, it makes it work again, but it's not like the hard plastic shell flexes much, so I can't imagine what's going on with the IE300 to have that issue.
It's not just me as well, plenty of people out there complain of the same thing.
I have had the exact same thing happen to my IE 600
@@bmjnyc Even the 600? Holy shit and that one seems to be made out of a tougher material.
Funny you should mention this. Not even a year after having my IE 400 Pro, the right bud just died on me yesterday 🙁 Time for a warranty claim. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah it is the cable unfortunately. Bought a different brand (had to cut of a bit so it fits) and now it work flawlessly. Although I’m really interested if those ie200 cables would fix the issue as well.
This is caused by a loose mmcx connector, you can try to fix it by stretching the little ring on the connector. I believe Fiio have a video on this.
How does it compare to Olina SE? My fear is chifi has it beat for performance value
I hope you review ie200 as early as and let us know 😁
@@deparoo I hope I get to try it 😅
Many thanks, wonderful review! I'm really curious, if I want a pair of ear phones with mic, is there that option with IE200?
Would you recommend it to pair these headphones with Quester M12i or M15i?
Why compare instantly to the 600 when the 300 is actually better than the 600?
I have been using my ie300s as an EDC IEM for almost a year now. The ie600 came out right after I got them, no wonder they were on sale. I got a custom adapter in order in order to swap cables, trimming them never occurred to me. I think I would prefer the cable on the ie200s, however I wish they would do away with the bendy ear hook. That being said, would it make sense for me to add the ie200 to my collection? The frequency response looks more appealing to me but is it enough of a departure to justify owning both? Perhaps I would be better off with a different driver type for my next IEM...
Looks like the 200 would be more of a crossgrade or replacement for the 300 with a slightly different sound signature. I don't think it would make sense to own both personally.
The ear hook is actually my favorite part of the cable. Do you pinch it around your ear when putting it on? You have to pinch rather aggressively
should I get the IE 200 for music production? or the IE 100 Pro?
...And what about compared to my still awesome IE 100 PRO?
I wanna know too. I wonder if these are the audiophile version of the IE 40/ 100 Pro
same question +1
Hey @DMS What do you think of the IE 200 compared to the IE 100 Pro that you reviewed a while back? I know you said they reminded you of the HD 560s. Which over ear headphone would you relate the IE 200 to? Thank you :-)
How would this compare to the s12 from a technical perspective?
I fell in love with the Etymotic ER3XR, except for the fit. I can wear them for maybe forty five minutes. Your review has me thinking these would make me just as happy, maybe happier. Care to give me your thoughts about that? Thank you. Also, I am originally from where you are now, do you have a favorite hang out?
Hey! Thanks for the comment.
So compared to the ER3XR, the IE200 will have a little less 2k-3khz and a little more bass. Other than that they look fairly similar, but it depends on if that ear-gain change is a deal breaker or not.
Buffalo has been fun! In the summers here I've really enjoyed Delaware Park and the bike trails near the Japanese gardens 😄
@@DMS3TV Even during the mild part of winter Buffalo has a lot to love. I lived near Stiglmeier park. Might be a dumb question but have you been to the Old Pink Flamingo on Allen st. That was my hangout. Thank you for thee response.
@@davdidit6 oh yeah! Just a block from there we go to Allen Burger Venture often.
Chestnut ridge is also great hiking in the winter months.
´how will those do for gaming?
Been looking at reviews and so far everyone is saying the cable is really bad? How bad is it in your opinion?
Curious how it would compare against the IE 100 pros
Love that intro vibe
As someone who just demoed both, get the IE600. Noticeably better and with its recent sale price of 499 USD, worth the upgrade over the IE200.
You can get both, as they are often on sale. While the IE600 is overall better, I don't feel comfortable taking them outside given their price. The IE200 is perfect for a portable setup. The sound is still great, the comfort is unmatched, and I love the stealthy, professional design too. It wouldn't feel as bad if I accidentally lost or damaged the IE200 while listening on the go since I can always find them for around 100 bucks.
The ie600 sounds better all round than the ie200. More detail, depth, emotional engagement. And beats every other IEM I have (and is built to last).
I'm using uncompressed lossless with a variety or sources (inc A&K se180baks lg v60). DACs include Chord Mojo 2 and Onix Alpha.
Picking up a pair tomorrow for 172 Kiwi pesos, which is just over 100 USD.
Big box retailers must be hurting as they're discounting cans like crazy down here.
Didn't DMS make an IE300 review? Why compare to IE600 in the first place instead of more affordable and second cheapest in the lineup IE300?
Maybe because the IE 300 is end of life and because comparing to a generally well accepted product is more beneficial.
@@Meme_Connaisseur IE300 is well acclaimed and is still available, so I don't know where did you get information about end of life? IE600 is niche because of price not many people got it so not many have reference. IE300 much more popular and similar discount price to IE200 regular price. This is a product people decide wheter to get IE300 or IE200 not IE200 or IE600. Those with budget will not be getting IE200 instead of IE600. If at all most likely as a complimentary IEM to already owned IE900/IE600.
Technically, ie200 and ie300, which is better? Cuz ie300 is at about the same price as the 200 right now.
The 300 was somewhat polarizing for reviewers. I’d check out frequency response charts and reviews of the 300 and see how they differ from these and which suite your tastes more. The 200 is less likely to be “offensive” vs the 300. They seem better balanced in the FR.
The ie300 is much more V shaped and the mids show that
@@Bver69 Yeah, agree! The 300 even has more bass than the 600, which has substantial bass than the 200.
@@Methenavigator I have the IE 400 Pro and they're almost exactly the same tuning as the IE 300
How about comparing with IE300?
the only thing i don't like about the ie600 is that onme of the cables rotates rather easily on the connector, which gets in the way a bit when putting it on
How these compete with IE 300?
Btw, good job!
I’d love to see a review on the Hifiman RE800 which is dirt cheap for some reason. I’d love to know what that reason is.
I can't get the Sennheiser tips to stay in my ears, I loose the seal too easily.
I have been using Campfire Audio small foam tips. I do use the small foam insert from inside the ie300 tips, so no specks of ear wax get into the IEM's.
The CA foam is longer, and works better for my ear canal size. I was concerned that small foam insert could end up inside my ears, but so far they don't move.
I used final e tips with my ie600. Sennheiser's tips are known to have the issues you are having.
@@Kushby Do you ever get gunk into the IEM spout, the Final tips are just open IIRC.
@@marzcapone9939 No, I never had those issues. I do use q-tips everyday after showering though. I also very rarely pocket iems.
Super reviews also recommended the softears UC tips for ther IE lineup. I have yet to try them but they also dont have a wax shield.
@@Kushby thanks
Have you tried using their largest tip? Or maybe buy some of the IE Pro silicone tips. They're great and still have the little sponge inside.
can you just EQ the ie200 to make closer to ie600?. since both use the same drivers, i'm interested to see how close it'll get
IE200 and IE600 use different drivers. Their frequency response is different on the sennheiser website. IE 200 is capable to producing sound from 10hz to 20khz while the IE600 does all the way from 3hz to 45khz. I think IE600 and IE900 use different materials in their drivers compared to IE300 and 200. So even if you EQ them you can't get the same technicalities as the expensive iems.
Actually the IE200,600 and 900 all use the same 7mm dynamic driver according to the Sennheiser website. Here’s the quote from the IE200 page: The IE 200 takes advantage of some of the best in-ear technology we have to offer. The 7mm extra-wideband True Response transducer, for instance, exhibits virtually no harmonic distortion at all. That’s why you’ll also find it in our IE 300, IE 600 and IE 900.
@@mucklechumps they use the same shape and housing, but materials such as diaphragms, coils, magnets etc are different. The impedance, sensitivity and range also varies from one to the other.
@thesaniwaa with all due respect, the drivers are the same. Same cone material, same voice coil, same magnet. I know the designer. You are right that the shells and acoustic chambers are different.
I wish IEMs were comfortable for me. I have super small ear holes apparently and I can never find a tip that works well.
Just get foam tips
@@DeezNuts-pq9rb I've tried. Even the small Dekoni ones are too big
maybe check spinfit ear tip
Try Spinfit
Did they fix the unreliable MMCX connectors? I went through 3 pairs of IE300s before giving up entirely.
What's wrong with the connectors? I'm curious
what do you think of the ie200 over the bose qc20 for gaming
I am using Audio Technica Ath-im70. And was looking for a upgrade.Is this a good option?
Love the DMS mood lighting...
IE600 had the most natural timbre I have ever heard in an iem. Comparable to the HD6xx series.
HD 6XX is not super natural. It is very warm and thus the treble is missing. Please describe how you determine timbre-I would hope your explanation is derived from experiences in the real world with either playing instruments or attending performances in person.
@@NFStopsnuf I think he means the 6X0 series of headphones. IE, the HD 600, 660s, 650, 6XX, 58X
its sounds as something is fucking worth the price!i like that!
The IE200 and moondrop kato, which is better？
I find the ATH E50 to be a very unpopular headphone, but I think it is very good.
I literally have never hand a more opposite reaction to any product DMS has reviewed. The IE200 experience was nowhere near the experience from the Kato. The Microphonic on the Ie200 is some of the absolute worst I’ve ever heard in my life. And the tips create pressure and headaches. With the Kato… for the quality, feel, and sound right out of the box is just outstanding. I didn’t have to change out the cables because they are so high quality. I didn’t have find more tips.. the spring tips work to perfection. I put in the gold nozzles and everything is killer, lush, timbre is great , details snd separation is beautiful. But with the IE 200 the left driver is more powerful than the right, the cable sucks, and the stability is off because the tips don’t seal very well. The first thing you do when you buy a product should be to correct their mistakes. And with the Kato I get exactly what I need and more right out of the box.
That's your ears and views then lol
Guys I have a question inside the website I saw open box products. Are these only open box without use or open box with use ?
just open box
second option is for singing on stage, cause you will get that low rumble in your head, and plus bass from iem - it can be overwhelming and hard to get your tone/pitch right
My question here is - Is it really 'reference' Could I rely on the tuning to be a 'reference' ?
is there any reason to get this if i already have the kato and the 7hz timeless? does it provide a different enough listening experience from those two to make it worth cycling between them?
in my opinion this line up from Sennheiser is worth getting due to the comfort. I have never been an IME guy, but I needed to switch to earbuds for my commute in order to give my neck some rest, this chassis from Sennheiser was the most comfortable by far. if you are truly enjoying the signature from those earphones you mentioned then you might not enjoy the sennys very much. but if you are opened to listen at your music with a different presentation then I think the experience is worth it as part of the hobby
Would you compare it to the 7hz Timeless technically wise?
Can ie200 compare with LETSHUOER S12? Which is better overall?
LetshouderS12 Pro has a beautifull stage, good bass, all frequencies are well reproduced, Senheiser ie 200 has no bass.
@@SimonePanaioli thanks :)
Sennheiser seems to intimate that the same 7mm driver is used in the 200/300/600/900 products.
Is this actually true?
If so, why the huge price disparities?
There should be little to no cost in tuning differences. I can understand cost differences for different housing materials or accessories but, in my mind, the cost disparities between the different models seem excessive.
Please explain if you can.
The tooling required to make metal parts vs. plastic molds is night and day cost difference.
@@drewmorg. And yet somehow there are sub $100 iem’s with a metal build. If you go up to $200 there are some metal iem’s with tremendous build like the Moondrop Kato.
@@arthurhaywood2184 The kato look cheap and nothing like the special harmonic internal chambers the Senn IE series have in their upper models. You rarely hear the IE 600 called overpriced for what they deliver. I have purchased so called Chi Fi KZ ZAS with a bunch of BA drivers and I returned in a few days. The comfort was bad and sound was just ok. Lots of deep bass. I think Chi Fi specializes in a) cheap and b) variety.
Would this be an upgrade from the blessing 2? 🤔
The IE200 just slapped my z12 off a bridge. The z12 is a planar but can’t compete with the IE200 😂😅
Sennheiser IE 100 Pro slapped my Letshuoer S12 Pro. Comfort and sound are a cut above in the IE 100 Pro!
I'm really curious and itching to buy the ie200. I recently bought an iem (thankfully 50% off) supposedly in the 300€ range that was hailed all across the board which left me quite a lot disappointed. I don't know if it's just not my cup of tea or if the audiophile community is shilling or biased and gets easily excited about every chifi iem aroundthe corner. Long story short, now I have trust issues and I'd like to explore an established quality brand. How do you find the vocals, soundstage and note definition on these? Is there really a better vocal iem out there in the same price range (under 150€)?
Okay so, I have ie600 and my wallet is still hurting a bit, would it be a dumb move to sell them and get these?
Depends if you think you would prefer the sound of the IE 200 based on the frequency response compared to the 600. I think a lot of people would be happy with the 200 based on what we're seeing in this review but its very subjective. If you're having buyers remorse or want the money for other things it's worth considering. The price difference could buy you a pretty nice set of over ear headphones or a DAC/AMP like the Qudelix 5K which is fantastic for IEMs or even headphones to EQ with. IMO the IE 200 and the Qudelix would be a great combo and I'm planning to get the 200 for that reason (I already have the Qudelix)
Why would you leave out the 300s?
I would love to see a comparison with the IE800.
Would this be an upgrade from chifi simgot ea500
Can I use for phone calls?
Are this good for Dj ?
Would this make a good upgrade from the Moondrop Aria?
How do they compare to the ie300?
I'm interested to see how it compares to the Moondrop Blessing 2.
I have the ie600 that I power by an ifi blu, that’s my on the move setup lately. I love them to bits, this ie200 sounds interesting, but I will not use it more so no point in buying!:-)
Can you compare it with other chifi options in this budget
I hope this isn’t entirely based on tuning. Tuning matters so much less for IEMs since they’re supposed to be on the go. Technicalities matter far more
The production 📈😭📈
How does the ie200 compare to the 7hz timeless or letshuoer s12 since they’re all similar in price?
planars got a foil timbre that I don't like at all, otherwise, you can push them to great sound via EQing. Tried them all, still prefer DD.
How much is ie200 better than AirPods Pro 2 in terms of sound quality?
Bro don’t you ever compare any iem to AirPods Pro
AirPods Pro is not even in the league of the cheapest 15 dollars Kz iem
Just talk bout something else
@@gannymiguel5898 Airpods pro 2 are actually pretty good and in terms of technicalities they do compete with IEMs, but not in the same price range.
@@zekion. acc codec > iem ? r u sure about that? bluetooth quality never wins ,even sony LDAC codec
@@hungyu_1126 I never said APP2 were winning, I just said they were definitely better than most consumer TWS buds out there.
You can use the new Signature Series from Effect Audio, the MMCX fit perfectly on any of the Sennheiser IE 900/600/200
Even their cheapest cable is more expensive than the IE200.
Sennheiser ie 200 + shio dac + poweramp eq premade super reviewer = kilobuck iem
Xenns top review please
And comparison to the ie600 and mest mkii
So whats the 1:1 $20-100 clone of the 600/900 for ppl tired of forking $500-700 for these things.
It does get a bit ridiculous when they can now easily 3d print them and snap the parts together.
But I don't want less treble
How does the sound compare to Airpods Pro 2?
I have the same questions as I’m debating between the two. The 200 is likely better from a purely musical perspective but the AirPods Pro 2 has such a huge feature set and they’re truly wireless bud so they have a huge value proposition.
If you have Pods Pro2, you don't need to buy IE200. But what's the point of buying IE600!
@@ВасилНанков-р6о IE600 is made of precious moon metal
@@speechruin That's true of any truly wireless earbud (TWS) and kind of an unfair comparison. You can make kind of the same claim about any battery powered vs wall powered device. There's way more to it than that when comparing these to kinds of headphones. If running out of battery is a big concern for a headphone shopper then I don't think a TWS IEM is the right choice for them at all.
Ie 600 rocks , it's now my go to
The dual tuning is shite. Great iems though, once you replace the cable and tips (stock foams are decent though). Also taping the nozzle if you don’t have tips with a tighter core.
what cable did you replaced with?
The notch is there in IE600 as well.
Not an air vent though
@@justspaztik Vent is present in IE600, its just in a different location as DMS mentions in the video too.
I wish I could get the housing for the ie600/900 in a cheaper model. I love the housings for those models
Buy the IE 900 shell and insert the IE 200 guts into it 😝
end game ??