Not me.ever shoot one. The romantic squeezer gets old after a mag or 2 of 8 rounds was it. Then the hi capacity brick that followed. Never could figure out the allure of these German made POS...... Just rotton. Walther has all ways made better handguns. Maby not heavy as tanks and 15 pound trigger pulls but I own many walthers and never a single h k. It ain't the over priced was either. At half the price of an h k your still buying a German made hi point. Oops the higher point is lighter! Lol
I have been wanting to get a HK P7 for years but I was not too crazy about spending 3 or 4K on a used gun that may or may not work properly but someone making a Brand NEW P7 here in the USA is an AWESOME News that I am going to be contacting them to get my very one P7. I hope that you post a video of your Nitrided P7 at the Range because I would to see how they shoot. Thanks for the Video and the Info on P7Pro!
Definitely NOT advisable to carry this pistol for personal defense. It's extremely expensive and if, God forbid, you're involved in a self-defense incident, I guarantee you will be forced to surrender it to law enforcement. Later -- much later, they may return it to you, but then they may choose not to. Carry instead something easy and less costly to replace.
You have to forgive him, ask Jesus to help you man. Trust me, if you harbor unforgiveness neither can God ever forgive you for anything. I know how you feel, its better this way
Still a unicorn pistol. A NICE unicorn pistol that fits most of the bills, aside from co$t, of what a concealed carry pistol ought to be. I'll have to do without this one.
I have the black P7 PSP with heel magazine release and inline 8-rnd magazine... extremely narrow with virtually no printing when CC'ed under a t-shirt (no protruding mag releases on the sides of the gun). Tritium sights. And about a dozen mags... Best gun ever.
Wow!! that is gorgeous!!! I love the shape of the P7 M8/13 trigger guard and the mag lever behind the trigger. Sadly living in the UK we can't get them :(
The Bavarian State Police have the HK P7 M8 as sidearm from 1979 -2017. Then the Police Authority couldn‘t get any spare parts for repair and changed to HK SFP 9 TR. The P7 is a quality pistol of its own, so every remake have to meet that quality. The price tag of that Texan Pistol isn‘t cheap, but good quality have a expensiv price tag. It will become interesting, to see other calibers like .40S&W (P7 M10) 357 SiG or .45 ACP or .38 Super.
The owner is a materials engineer as well as an H&K armorer. He knows his metal. The slides they make are to micron level tolerances. Their chemical and heat treatment processes far exceed anything H&K ever did. (I'm retired from 40yrs in engineering as a mechanical designer. We nerded out for a minute.)
@fjordweit6170 I just received my P7 from P7pro. I ordered one of the remaining German frames for nostalgia sake. The new parts as well as the frame were all nitride treated together. Great finish. I can't wait ti go to the range. It isn't a "plastic fantastic", it's metal. I'm happy with the $2400 price. Comes with a lifetime warranty.
Have P7m8 -- LOVED IT ! - carried it on duty and off for 4 yrs. Didn't have holsters duty / off duty for it, had to have them custom made. Chief thought it was a toy till He shot it, was impressed with it, but chocked when heard price. HK came out with "m13" version later, just didn't have the money to get one. Then Dept went to issued firearms (Glocks) - that was a few decades ago.
I once had one in excellent condition and sold it, which I now deeply regret. I have some questions about the new model, but if it's built with the same quality from the ground up, I'd be very interested. The idea of a titanium variant is particularly appealing to me because, while the original was quite heavy, and the center of gravity was a bit off.
I was excited, and then I found out you can buy a real P7 for less than these guys are selling them for. Heck, you can get almost anything for less than these guys want for one of these.
@@sxs2950 Hate to tell you this dude, but this company is operating under a cookie cutter llc selling a low demand item. No address, no phone number. That "lifetime warranty" expires when they decide its over.
Do they make the P7M13? I had the fortune of shooting one back in 92. Dad was in Army and got stationed at Ft Polk. At base range a soldier had one and let me shoot it and his Mk VII 44 mag DE. Both guns were very easy and accurate pistols.
The one I had a p7 m13 back in the 90s shot anything and everything I ran through it. Although I never fired lead as I was told not to since it's was a polygonal barrel. There was no ammo I ever had a jam with from ww2 ammo to cheap Chinese and any kind of hollow point. The gas system aids in blowing out any spent case. Most accurate reliable pistol I ever owned. I regret selling it.
Thank you for this video. It's interesting to learn that the PSP / P7M8 is back. But this pistol has an achille's heel: the squeeze cocking mechanism is quite complex and it depends on a few small springs for its working. When used regularly, these springs break once or twice a year, which makes the pistol useless. Having a stock of these springs help to shorten the "interruption of service" but it is still there.
@@marie-noellebaechler1433 This is the first time I've heard of such breakdowns, people shoot tens of thousands of rounds from the P7, and I've never heard of such a malfunction, this is one of the most reliable pistols.
I absolutely adore the H&K P7. that out of the way this company failed in one area thats going to hurt them. The street price for one of these is close to $3000.00 which can get you a pretty good example of a real P7 M8. Can the updates they provided outweigh the cache of owning an original? only time will tell.
I had no idea these existed. Do they all have h&k markings? Edit: at 8:45 you mention they do not have the hk markings. For $2500 that kinda of kills it. I pray hk usa will bring this gun back along with the mp7 and ump45 when they start manufacturing hk in the USA.
Appreciate the video but a lot of your video is out of focus. Take note of how Ian McCollum does his videos. Don't hold the gun and fidget around with it. Leave the gun stationary and add an edit when you need to change the position of the gun. The auto focus is causing parts of the gun to go out of focus everytime you fidget around with the gun.
They actually went backwards in the design. Its missing plastic heat guard inside the the front of the trigger guard. During rapid fire strings the P7 was known to transfer heat from the gas piston thru the frame and into the front of the trigger. The owner of Greys guns had a custom longslide P7.
Does the titanium frame pistol not have a heat shield like the standard P7M8? Besides the mag release, that was the big upgrade over the original P7/PSP. How hot does the pistol get after shooting a box of ammo through it?
The titanium frame is a P7, not a P7M8 so it does not have a dust cover. It depends how quickly you shoot the box of ammo. If you are at the range blasting away, yes it will get hot. Just buy two P7's and alternate.
Here's the problem... HKPro is not any cheaper than a used P7. They start at $2500 and that is with an Aluminum frame. A steel frame is $100 more, Titanium is $600 more. Check a couple of option boxes on the slide and it quickly eclipses $3000. Right now though there is no option to configure an M13 either. There is no frame capacity option in the configurator and the illustration shows an M8.
I think you might be missing the point, this pistol is more for the avid / rabid HK collector or someone who appreciates a unique firearm. HKPro offers options that Heckler & Koch never did and the build quality and finish is superior. If you love the P7 series having another option is a wonderful thing.
Sorry - can't agree about the light, when it's your backside on the line you want every advantage. Carried P7 m8 for few years (on duty and off) like the idea of a rail and even the idea of "rds" on slide. Only reason went to glock was Dept started to issue them and Chief said wanted more rounds in magazine and everybody on same system (well I would have bought the m13 except they were not out when bought m8 - sigh ! and later couldn't afford it). [Chief really liked it, but choked when found out it cost $660-- (80s), His carry gun had cost $310--]. 😅
You’re not going to find machining work on a CNC produced firearm. All you get for that kind of money is simply a Ti frame. All the rest comes off your donor gun.
Yes there are definitely other pistols out there that are better such as a Glock ( lighter, higher capacity, blah, blah, blah) Now a criminal manages to get your P7 away from you and then tries to shoot you with it, but doesn't know how it works. If you carry a Glock do you think the criminal will be able to figure out how to pull the trigger.
This is going to fail big time. If this was under 1K sure, P7s are cool AF. why not have an accessable clone? This is 3k for just the plain vanilla version. If you have that kind of money you can just spend a little more and buy an original that will increase in value. What were they thinking? If they can get the price down by building their own slides then maybe theyd sell... Maybe.
Pro tip; explain what you're talking about for people who aren't familiar with this pistol. Caliber, capacity, specs, operation, and don't sound so out of breath.
Thanks, I don't have much time for this so I usually do only one take. I will work on doing better videos. Since it was the P7 series I just assumed that everyone already knew the basics, I need to remember not everyone is familiar with the P7 series
They're quite the greedy ripoff company.....$2400 and up is absurd....just buy and Archon B and have a much flatter shooting gun. So sick of greed and drama in the gun crowd
When you get some free time take a gun part to a manufacturers trade show. Talk to some of the companies and see what it costs to manufacture one part. You will be rather surprised, most companies won't want to touch a gun part, the ones that do will have to be registered with ITAR. Next you will need to have the blueprints. Since you don't have them, they will have to be reverse engineered. Once it is manufactured, the part will have to be blued or coated, plated..... Next you will have to do the same for 75 other parts then create jigs and purchase machinery to assemble the firearm. Once the firearm is sold you have to pay the ATF 10% of the sale price, yeah $240 is going to Uncle Sam (Excise Tax). Don't forget about building rent and insurance so if someone like you shoots themselves in the foot and decides to sue. Starting a firearms company is an uphill battle and there are a lot of costs that need to be covered, it is amazing that anyone is building a boutique firearm. By the way the titanium P7 sold out immediately so many buyers felt differently than you.
Even a real factory p7 may be worth that kind of money as a collector gun I would never buy one. I passed on a couple back in the mid 90s. They were less than a grand then but spendy for that time. Still not near as over priced as they are now. I also passed on the first polymer pistol made by h k back in the 70 I think again it was sub 1000 dollars high but nowhere near as over priced as they are now. That think looked like a buck Rodgers gun. 18 rounds of 9 mm. The hardest, crummiest trigger ever. I mean the worst ever. That gun is still on sale for like 2 large and has been unsold for these past 28 years. The p7 squeezers have pretty bad triggers too. Back in late 90 they were still plentiful but again really a bad trigger. Plenty of n j hiway patrol surplus available back then. Jest never could get past the Arnold swatzenegger grip strength needed to operate h k pistols. All ways over priced all ways bad heavy triggers.
...the infamous HK VP70 is the pistol to which you refer. I have one and the trigger will remind you of a staple gun! Indeed the worst trigger ever intalled in a handgun.
I had a P7M13 in the late 80's early 90's. I consider it one of the best handguns I ever owned. I sold the thing and I really miss it.
You and me, brother.
Tell me about it. I regret selling most of mine, but giving up the P7 was particularly.😒
@@DanielOrtegoUSAtime to buy one!!!!! Have fired this. It’s a fun gun to shoot.
I See* P7M13* In The Movie 'DIE HARD* Alan Rigman Used It .
Best and most accurate boat anchor I ever owned. I wish I had not sold mine.
Was not aware of this company. Thank you.
Who here is kicking themselves for not buying one years ago when new jersey got rid of them, 600- 800
Not me.ever shoot one. The romantic squeezer gets old after a mag or 2 of 8 rounds was it. Then the hi capacity brick that followed. Never could figure out the allure of these German made POS...... Just rotton. Walther has all ways made better handguns. Maby not heavy as tanks and 15 pound trigger pulls but I own many walthers and never a single h k. It ain't the over priced was either. At half the price of an h k your still buying a German made hi point. Oops the higher point is lighter! Lol
I have a shotgun news from the mid 2000’s we’re they are 300 to 399.
@@earldelsanto Yes HK is heavy, but its a tank. My P30sk is phenomenal.
@@earldelsantoIf you kept it, that $650 gun would be worth over $2K today. That's enough to not get rid of.
NJSP destroyed those guns.
If there's a market for these, there is definitely a market for reproduction Lugers & Broomhandles, contrary to what many people say
Webbleys also
A Ukrainian company was making a Broomhandle carbine repro for about $10,000 before things got interesting over there.
Lugerman makes repro lugers but they are very expensive
@@BA-oy9uo I want a broom handle so bad!!
Can these pistols handle ammo like Buffalo Bore or Underwood?
Gas delayed blowback action puts the hot where your hand is. The chromed gun is for taking with you to a Texas barbeque.
I have been wanting to get a HK P7 for years but I was not too crazy about spending 3 or 4K on a used gun that may or may not work properly but someone making a Brand NEW P7 here in the USA is an AWESOME News that I am going to be contacting them to get my very one P7. I hope that you post a video of your Nitrided P7 at the Range because I would to see how they shoot.
Thanks for the Video and the Info on P7Pro!
I just wish P7Pro's P7s didn't cost almost as much as real HK P7s. If they were around 1500 or less I'd be more comfortable carrying one.
I ask myself what my life is worth, after that the price usually doesn't matter
Where have you found new with lifetime warranty P7's for $2400? I've been looking.
Definitely NOT advisable to carry this pistol for personal defense. It's extremely expensive and if, God forbid, you're involved in a self-defense incident, I guarantee you will be forced to surrender it to law enforcement. Later -- much later, they may return it to you, but then they may choose not to. Carry instead something easy and less costly to replace.
@@JackGordone If you're carrying something for personal defense cost doesn't matter a bit. Many features of the p7 make it the ideal carry gun.
@JackGordone I too get the cheapest Chinese crap to carry
The silver one looks like the gun of every 80's movie villian
Hans Gruber.
Those look amazing, I’ve always wanted a suppressed p7. And chrome yowza!
Check out their website. I just bought a P7 from German frame.
My Dad had one. My brother sold it after he passed. The pos.
You have to forgive him, ask Jesus to help you man. Trust me, if you harbor unforgiveness neither can God ever forgive you for anything. I know how you feel, its better this way
Very nice pistol, you're fortunate to have one in your collection. The titanium framed one is expensive, but even more unique.
Still a unicorn pistol. A NICE unicorn pistol that fits most of the bills, aside from co$t, of what a concealed carry pistol ought to be. I'll have to do without this one.
I would want the HK for that kind of money there are so many great guns now that I would buy first but I do like the original
I have the black P7 PSP with heel magazine release and inline 8-rnd magazine... extremely narrow with virtually no printing when CC'ed under a t-shirt (no protruding mag releases on the sides of the gun). Tritium sights. And about a dozen mags... Best gun ever.
Yep, best gun ever, nothing compares!
Wow!! that is gorgeous!!! I love the shape of the P7 M8/13 trigger guard and the mag lever behind the trigger. Sadly living in the UK we can't get them :(
I bought one at 700 back in 80s, Chantilly with small billboard, I miss that dearly
Got a 2004 25th anniversary and 1988 model at home . Amazing guns
Would love to see the optic ready version and a full review with a good solid round count
If I get a hold of one I will do it.
Love mine! The original
Very sexy pistols. Hoping they succeed and the price comes down a bit.
My P7 dates to early 1984. It’s “case” is a cardboard box. I’ve never considered it heavy, but that titanium frame interests me.
The Bavarian State Police have the HK P7 M8 as sidearm from 1979 -2017. Then the Police Authority couldn‘t get any spare parts for repair and changed to HK SFP 9 TR. The P7 is a quality pistol of its own, so every remake have to meet that quality. The price tag of that Texan Pistol isn‘t cheap, but good quality have a expensiv price tag. It will become interesting, to see other calibers like .40S&W (P7 M10) 357 SiG or .45 ACP or .38 Super.
The owner is a materials engineer as well as an H&K armorer. He knows his metal. The slides they make are to micron level tolerances. Their chemical and heat treatment processes far exceed anything H&K ever did. (I'm retired from 40yrs in engineering as a mechanical designer. We nerded out for a minute.)
@@josephsmith3314 Thank you for your comment, that sounds very good, especially if the build quality is as high as you described.
@fjordweit6170 I just received my P7 from P7pro. I ordered one of the remaining German frames for nostalgia sake. The new parts as well as the frame were all nitride treated together. Great finish. I can't wait ti go to the range. It isn't a "plastic fantastic", it's metal. I'm happy with the $2400 price. Comes with a lifetime warranty.
@@josephsmith3314 Thank you for your comment and have a lot of fun !
Have P7m8 -- LOVED IT ! - carried it on duty and off for 4 yrs. Didn't have holsters duty / off duty for it, had to have them custom made. Chief thought it was a toy till He shot it, was impressed with it, but chocked when heard price. HK came out with "m13" version later, just didn't have the money to get one. Then Dept went to issued firearms (Glocks) - that was a few decades ago.
I once had one in excellent condition and sold it, which I now deeply regret. I have some questions about the new model, but if it's built with the same quality from the ground up, I'd be very interested. The idea of a titanium variant is particularly appealing to me because, while the original was quite heavy, and the center of gravity was a bit off.
I was excited, and then I found out you can buy a real P7 for less than these guys are selling them for. Heck, you can get almost anything for less than these guys want for one of these.
The last P7M8 on GB sold for 3k. These are $2,400 with a lifetime warranty. If your "factory" one breaks good luck getting it fixed by HK.
@@sxs2950 Hate to tell you this dude, but this company is operating under a cookie cutter llc selling a low demand item. No address, no phone number. That "lifetime warranty" expires when they decide its over.
Will they also make a P7M10 on .40S&W chambering like H&K once did? Or a P7M13 in 9x19mm?
I would very much like a p7 in 10mm auto.
Sorry I have no idea.
My old H&K P7M8 had bad bluing on the slide, so it turned purple. This is pretty common as H&K must have had an issue with their bluing salts.
No... it was high quality steel, looked a bit different to the frame
That’s a very nice suit Mr Takagi. It would be a shame to ruin it.
Ach, Hans Grüber…
Do they make the P7M13? I had the fortune of shooting one back in 92. Dad was in Army and got stationed at Ft Polk. At base range a soldier had one and let me shoot it and his Mk VII 44 mag DE. Both guns were very easy and accurate pistols.
How does it hold up with reliability and different types of ammo?
The one I had a p7 m13 back in the 90s shot anything and everything I ran through it. Although I never fired lead as I was told not to since it's was a polygonal barrel. There was no ammo I ever had a jam with from ww2 ammo to cheap Chinese and any kind of hollow point. The gas system aids in blowing out any spent case. Most accurate reliable pistol I ever owned. I regret selling it.
I still have my first HK P7 PSP I bought in 1986 for $450
Did they solve that “getting crazy hot “ problem?
Stay tuned….
I'm really missing my P7s now. I'm probably of the minority, but I much prefer the flush heal release.
Thank you for this video. It's interesting to learn that the PSP / P7M8 is back.
But this pistol has an achille's heel: the squeeze cocking mechanism is quite complex and it depends on a few small springs for its working. When used regularly, these springs break once or twice a year, which makes the pistol useless. Having a stock of these springs help to shorten the "interruption of service" but it is still there.
That just is not true
This is what happened with mine
@@marie-noellebaechler1433 This is the first time I've heard of such breakdowns, people shoot tens of thousands of rounds from the P7, and I've never heard of such a malfunction, this is one of the most reliable pistols.
That was not my experience .
..surprised they didn't include the fiber heat shield inside the trigger guard
the P7 doesn't have it, the M8 does
I prefer the mag release on the P7M13.
Make it a P7M8 with the usual release for magazines.
Love the P7
I absolutely adore the H&K P7. that out of the way this company failed in one area thats going to hurt them. The street price for one of these is close to $3000.00 which can get you a pretty good example of a real P7 M8. Can the updates they provided outweigh the cache of owning an original? only time will tell.
I had no idea these existed. Do they all have h&k markings?
Edit: at 8:45 you mention they do not have the hk markings. For $2500 that kinda of kills it. I pray hk usa will bring this gun back along with the mp7 and ump45 when they start manufacturing hk in the USA.
Appreciate the video but a lot of your video is out of focus.
Take note of how Ian McCollum does his videos. Don't hold the gun and fidget around with it. Leave the gun stationary and add an edit when you need to change the position of the gun. The auto focus is causing parts of the gun to go out of focus everytime you fidget around with the gun.
Thanks, I got a new camera that should solve that problem. Will be working on making better videos in the future.
They actually went backwards in the design. Its missing plastic heat guard inside the the front of the trigger guard. During rapid fire strings the P7 was known to transfer heat from the gas piston thru the frame and into the front of the trigger.
The owner of Greys guns had a custom longslide P7.
P7's don't have a plastic heat guard, it is the M8's and M13's that do.
Doesn’t need it. Clunky and messes with lines and smoothness of the gun. Built for self defense situations not a war.
No heat shield? The original got uncomfortably hot after 2 magazines.
The P7 never had a heat shiel, only the M8, M13
The originals were extremely accurate. I would be disapointed if this one were not.
Does the titanium frame pistol not have a heat shield like the standard P7M8? Besides the mag release, that was the big upgrade over the original P7/PSP. How hot does the pistol get after shooting a box of ammo through it?
The titanium frame is a P7, not a P7M8 so it does not have a dust cover. It depends how quickly you shoot the box of ammo. If you are at the range blasting away, yes it will get hot. Just buy two P7's and alternate.
@@sxs2950 "Just buy two guns that cost several thousand dollars each." lol
I had a Nickel P7-M13 and and a .40 M10 and i'm haunted to this day of why I sold them in the mid 90's Biggest Gun regret in my life
Here's the problem... HKPro is not any cheaper than a used P7. They start at $2500 and that is with an Aluminum frame.
A steel frame is $100 more, Titanium is $600 more. Check a couple of option boxes on the slide and it quickly eclipses $3000.
Right now though there is no option to configure an M13 either. There is no frame capacity option in the configurator and
the illustration shows an M8.
I think you might be missing the point, this pistol is more for the avid / rabid HK collector or someone who appreciates a unique firearm. HKPro offers options that Heckler & Koch never did and the build quality and finish is superior. If you love the P7 series having another option is a wonderful thing.
Why are they so expensive? Just got a real one at that price point.
Cool!
What does P7Pro charge for magazines?
Magazines are free, you just have to buy the gun!! Seriously though, he doesn't sell magazines
@@sxs2950 kind of hard to shoot without mags. HK P7 mags are stupid expensive,like $175 each! I’m lucky I bought some back when they were just pricy.
Should make a double stack
I just bought an M8 from them and asked about the M13. They are planning to release it the last quarter of the year! Might need another by then.
I wonder what how the quality and finish hold up against the German made ones.just because it’s it’s made in the USA don’t means it’s built well.
It is a lot more durable
Hate the rail. I don't want a light on my pistol.
Sorry - can't agree about the light, when it's your backside on the line you want every advantage. Carried P7 m8 for few years (on duty and off) like the idea of a rail and even the idea of "rds" on slide. Only reason went to glock was Dept started to issue them and Chief said wanted more rounds in magazine and everybody on same system (well I would have bought the m13 except they were not out when bought m8 - sigh ! and later couldn't afford it). [Chief really liked it, but choked when found out it cost $660-- (80s), His carry gun had cost $310--]. 😅
Then don't get one. It's an optional upgrade when you order.
Interesting.Bore is so low on that design.
I went to the website, now I need to figure out how to rob a bank.
Pretty neat but probably too much money to ask for what it is…
Seiko vs Rolex, all depends on your wallet!!
Finding this video will end up costing me big $$$.
Hows the reliability on them?
100% No issues
I would name it Hans Gruber.
You’re not going to find machining work on a CNC produced firearm. All you get for that kind of money is simply a Ti frame. All the rest comes off your donor gun.
you put a $8 sticker on a $2400 pistol.
Put a beam and a stick on it
Someday, when I’m not as lame and poor, I will purchase one myself
Too Much, Won't Sell. To many other pistols Better than the P7 that cost 1/3 the price. A Colt Python is cheaper than that.
Yes there are definitely other pistols out there that are better such as a Glock ( lighter, higher capacity, blah, blah, blah) Now a criminal manages to get your P7 away from you and then tries to shoot you with it, but doesn't know how it works. If you carry a Glock do you think the criminal will be able to figure out how to pull the trigger.
This is going to fail big time. If this was under 1K sure, P7s are cool AF. why not have an accessable clone? This is 3k for just the plain vanilla version. If you have that kind of money you can just spend a little more and buy an original that will increase in value. What were they thinking? If they can get the price down by building their own slides then maybe theyd sell... Maybe.
@sxs2950 I have a second glock in this scenario
@@tugarin2345 Oops, criminal took that one as well :(
@@sxs2950 no 🤪
You don't even mention the caliber. Uh
9mm Para
Yuck @ lack of original heel mag release
Pro tip; explain what you're talking about for people who aren't familiar with this pistol. Caliber, capacity, specs, operation, and don't sound so out of breath.
Thanks, I don't have much time for this so I usually do only one take. I will work on doing better videos. Since it was the P7 series I just assumed that everyone already knew the basics, I need to remember not everyone is familiar with the P7 series
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They're quite the greedy ripoff company.....$2400 and up is absurd....just buy and Archon B and have a much flatter shooting gun. So sick of greed and drama in the gun crowd
When you get some free time take a gun part to a manufacturers trade show. Talk to some of the companies and see what it costs to manufacture one part. You will be rather surprised, most companies won't want to touch a gun part, the ones that do will have to be registered with ITAR. Next you will need to have the blueprints. Since you don't have them, they will have to be reverse engineered. Once it is manufactured, the part will have to be blued or coated, plated..... Next you will have to do the same for 75 other parts then create jigs and purchase machinery to assemble the firearm. Once the firearm is sold you have to pay the ATF 10% of the sale price, yeah $240 is going to Uncle Sam (Excise Tax). Don't forget about building rent and insurance so if someone like you shoots themselves in the foot and decides to sue. Starting a firearms company is an uphill battle and there are a lot of costs that need to be covered, it is amazing that anyone is building a boutique firearm. By the way the titanium P7 sold out immediately so many buyers felt differently than you.
i’ve never seen a p7 with such a terrible test target.
Take my money
NO ! MINE FIRST !
Even a real factory p7 may be worth that kind of money as a collector gun I would never buy one. I passed on a couple back in the mid 90s. They were less than a grand then but spendy for that time. Still not near as over priced as they are now. I also passed on the first polymer pistol made by h k back in the 70 I think again it was sub 1000 dollars high but nowhere near as over priced as they are now. That think looked like a buck Rodgers gun. 18 rounds of 9 mm. The hardest, crummiest trigger ever. I mean the worst ever. That gun is still on sale for like 2 large and has been unsold for these past 28 years.
The p7 squeezers have pretty bad triggers too. Back in late 90 they were still plentiful but again really a bad trigger. Plenty of n j hiway patrol surplus available back then. Jest never could get past the Arnold swatzenegger grip strength needed to operate h k pistols. All ways over priced all ways bad heavy triggers.
Single action trigger on a P7 is sweet. Propaganda much?
...the infamous HK VP70 is the pistol to which you refer. I have one and the trigger will remind you of a staple gun! Indeed the worst trigger ever intalled in a handgun.