I met Jimmy Savile in Broadmoor Hospital in the 1990s. He was pretty much universally despised by the nursing staff, but the hospital management team seemed to love him. Considering that Broadmoor is a high secure psychiatric hospital, it makes you wonder how manipulative Savile actually was to pull this off. A true psychopath with friends in high places.
@@xtinamarie_333 so sick isn't it. I often wonder if these "higher ups" just do things like this because they can. They get bored of being allowed to have everything they want so they go after something they're not supposed to have and get some sort of sick thrill out of it.
What was the personal vibe that you got off of him? He did an interview with a respected psychologist in the 90’s where he stated “emotions? I don’t got any” clear psychopath
@@xtinamarie_333 That's the problem. These creatures don't do it in public. Maybe Savile had something on his friends in high places that enabled all this evil shit to get swept under the carpet. Birds of a feather flock together!
What I found disgusting was the way they covered it up. My mum worked with a nurse that was transferred from Stoke Mandeville hospital because she walked in on Jimmy Savile as he was on top of a patient that was paralysed from the waste down. So she reported it and she got transferred to Milton Keynes hospital where she worked with my mum.
what strikes me watching the netflix documentary is the fact that man abused so many kids and women for so long without being never really investigated !!! How is that even possible ? Because he was highly protected by his celebrity status ? Not only. I think he has been protected by his relationships with some powerful heads. Outrageous ! Imo if he was born 30 decades later, he would be in jail now. I hope so .
how come its like no one ever seems to know about this stuff until a documentary appears on netflix? then suddenly everyones an expert with some opinion to share. Not saying you the reader, im saying people in general, INCLUDING grande. Same happened when dmx died. Even though he posted so much stuff about his upcoming death beforehand
John Lydon talked about Jimmy Savile and his 'seediness' during a BBC radio interview in 1978 which was never broadcast because the British establishment was protecting Savile and many other well-known figures.
My father knew Jimmy. I remember one day, in the 90's he said of him, "Jimmy Saville, never did anything that didn't benefit Jimmy Saville. That's all I'm going to say about the man." It was clear that he despised him.
How long or how well did he get to know him? That's what the anonymous letter written to the police said, too. His whole charity bit is just his cover and not altruistic at all. All for his own.
I grew up and lived in Leeds in the ‘70’s. Every child I was friends with when I was a young knew him as a “dirty old man” - a sex offender. We would see him in the large local park where he lived and ran. I knew, as did my peers, that he was to be avoided. Just ask and believe children. Everyone knew. He had influential friends who protected him, in my view, to hide their own wrong doing. A (still current) National disgrace with him only one part of it.
I rarely use the word "hate" in a serious, or actual way, but i do have actual profound hatred for this man. He is a foul stain on the history of humanity.
@@eddiebingbong7977 oh no .. it's going to be "one of those" kind of days. ... Siiiiiiighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Excellent analysis. I grew up in the era when Saville dominated popular culture here. He was a huge TV star in UK and his "Jim'll Fix It" offered to fulfil the childhood dreams of thousands of children. He, more than any other, has taught us never to trust the apparently kind but creepy man offering candy. You couldn't make it up. Thanks for covering more British subjects lately Dr Grande 😊
I grew up in that era. I thought that the *idea* of the Jim'll Fix It series was a good one. Though they did have Ian Paisley on it once! 🙄 But WHY the BBC continued having him as the host, once suspicions of child abuse grew significant, I have NO idea! In my view, it is THEM who were responsible and should be sued! Didn't happen though.
@@oneoflokis You bring up a very salient point about the BBC's knowledge of savile's crimes. It is said the media, i.e., BBC, newspapers, etc., have resorted to throwing the RF under the diversion bus because the RF are natural targets of resentment despite the fact it is said.the BBC & law enforcement
Jimmy Saville worked in Manchester UK as a DJ in the early to mid 1960's. He tried to force my 15 year old cousin and her friend to carry out what is referred to as a "s *x act" on him, he was well known for it around the Manchester club scene. My grandad and her father did not take well to the news of what he tried. Apparently after a "friendly words in his ear" carried out with their fists he apologised to my cousin for the "misunderstanding". I was the only person in my class at school who never watched "Jim"ll Fix It", my Grandad wouldn't watch anything with him in. He used to say "He might have fooled everyone else but I know exactly what he is". Everyone knew what he was, even in the 60's, which was why my Grandad didn't bother with the Police or his bosses at the club. He wasn't even discreet about what he did, he saw it as a "perk" of his status.
That is a very telling tale. It shows exactly how filthy those times were. The veneer of decency became extremely thin. Of course many people knew what he was to some degree. Probably not the full extent of it, but the truth is that he "fit in" enough that men with power couldn't be bothered making something of it and women didn't have the power to do anything about it. He was exactly the sort of person my parents despised and this made them "old fashioned" and "judgemental" back then.
I got severely told off when I said I said I wanted to write to “Jim’ll Fix it” I was told: “you want something, you write to me - I WILL fix it” 😄then Dad would swear in around three different languages as he angrily switched the channel
Around 1974 I wrote to Savile at Jim'll Fix It asking for him to arrange me to meet Evel Knieval, I was 12 at the time. I sent my letter to the BBC and excitedly told my siblings and mother. She replied that I shouldn't get my hopes up as even if Savile picked me to go on the TV show she wasn't letting me go near to Savile as he was a pervert. Some parents had a feeling about him and just knew he was a wrong 'un. That anecdote is not unusual here in the UK.
he didnt pick the participants...the producers did and they made sure to only pick the ones where the asks were pretty easy to get without spending all that much money
My husband asked for the same thing 😂 Thankfully he got no reply either. A guy at my university college got to interview Robin Day - go figure. We played him the video to him on his birthday thinking it would be a funny surprise. God I hope it was now
He would always have the kids sit on his knee to get their medals, and I remember my Mum making a comment about it. I think she picked up on his paedo vibes. I can't remember what she said, but after all the allegations came out, I thought back to her comment.
I never liked Jimmy Saville but when the revelations came out i was shocked at the scale of them. The big problem was that his defenders were louder, richer and more powerful than anyone else. His work as a hospital porter or his marathons were lauded loudly. He had the run of hospitals with the most vulnerable patients including a high security psychiatric hospital and a spinal injuries centre and this was held up as evidence that he was good. i will never understand though why nobody asked what his motives were. he played the whole country for idiots and some of our most powerful people fell for his ruses completely. I hope they are examining their actions now.
@@Time_to_Stop_Animal_Cruelty they don't and the big difference is that the people involved were convicted . Saville was protected by the establishment.....close friends included Thatcher , Prince Charles , Police chiefs etc etc
@@Time_to_Stop_Animal_Cruelty are you trying to say that the Multimillionaire white owners of most media companies don't report honestly and favour dark skinned people.
@@Time_to_Stop_Animal_Cruelty Not for the reasons you are thinking, I don't believe. The race of the perpetrators reflects the majority of a minority that live in that locale. Do you think all this didn't happen before, different era, different race of predators? It did. Quite often the local councillors, police etc were in on it too. Just like in the case you mention. Hope this information helps.
Paedophilia just wasn't taken that seriously before (roughly) the 1990s. It was a thing that was joked & laughed about- dirty old flashers in long raincoats at the local park. The idea that there were 1000s of adults using state and private institutions to cover hardcore sexual abuse just wasn't on the agenda.
It depended which social class was affected. us plebs were the real preys. but by and large society didn't process it as we do in 2022 . the 90s were a god awful time to be a chile.
Sickening and so sad. Hurt people go on to hurt others. Imagine all the carnage he's caused, including suicides and deep shame/addictions, ongoing abuses.
Hindsight is obviously 20/20, I grew up seeing him on telly ,I'm 48,and never really thought of him as anything other than a zany bloke, don't forget we are now shown particular images of him that reinforce what we now know. I'm not religious but in this case I hope their is a hell.
It certainly is a testament to the power of "humour" to hide sinister intentions. Men did that a lot in the 20th century. They would make a demeaning joke about a woman and if she protested they would tell her to "get a sense of humour" and "I was only joking, love". It was an extremely common tactic for silencing women. Feminism called it out and made those men extremely angry.
I've seen a lot of people saying he confessed but in hindsight it seemed more like bragging And he often said it in a manner which made people dismiss it all as a joke
The BBC executives who employed Saville were aware of his crimes as were the camera men and sound engineers etc who followed him into children hospital and care homes but suppressed this information because of Saville’s ability to attract huge audience numbers.
They didn't follow him 365 days a year. Also he had private rooms, sets of master keys to normally locked areas and a multitude of victims unable to communicate at all. He did say he wasn't clever, clever could trip you up, but tricky, which he was, never did. And he was right. His kids shows, he generally chose very small boys who didn't even know what had happened until after. Also for a middle aged man to have a teen/woman in front of him in the 60/70s was all the reason they needed to pinch, grope, grind, fondle and be generally disgusting. This happened on buses, trains, in shops, offices etc. Also in front of cameras where it would "appear" he had pinched her bottom. That would be considered cheeky but probably nothing more. He got away with it because the areas he put himself in were starved of attention, felt left out of the showy, metallic 70s and left to largely fester. (children's homes; juvenile female correctional schools, hospitals and psychiatric hospitals). People desperate to enter into even a little bit of that seemingly glamorous world would not be looking for anything like so obvious, or at all. Blinded by the light. The other men involved, and there were many, all kept quiet because they were passing kids around themselves.
Other BBC celebrities knew all about him including that old hypocrite Esther Rantzen with her own children’s charity. Most maintain their innocent line that “nobody knew” which is a total lie.
Yes. I get angry about this- if it has been the kids of TV execs he was abusing he'd have been out of there in a heartbeat. So long as the kids he abused were working class kids the execs were fine with it carrying on. They disgust me.
I live in the US but grew up in England during the 1970s and 80s. Unfortunately, Savile’s media presence is part of my childhood. It’s hard to convey just how popular and admired Savile was in England during those years to US viewers of the Netflix documentary. His presence both on-screen and across the radio waves seemed to be without limits...top 40 singles countdown, kids tv shows, commercials, charity telethons, general entertainment. Think of Dick Clark, Mr Rogers and Jerry Lewis rolled into one. Despite this, I never liked him. His eyes terrified me as a kid. They just weren’t human. It should be noted that his colleagues at the BBC (who many Americans admire and look to for trusted journalism and quality drama and comedy) knew of his crimes and therefore acted as his enablers. They knew he was raping children and did nothing. Let that sink in.
@@franciet99 Yes and No. As someone with an ASD I avoid eye contact because it drains me and I just don’t like it. I tend to look at a persons collar bone during a conversation. I prefer wearing sunglasses. Not everyone I know, obviously, knows that. Co-workers and clients alike have complained.
As a child, I remember feeling that Savile was the uncle who clip you around the ear when nobody was looking. Superficially kind and clownish but with a vicious temper.
It must be absolutely insane to non Brits that someone so out in the open about his predilections could have fooled not only the country, but the entire establishment to the highest levels. But, as a kid, he really was seen as a loveable character. I remember wanting to go on Jim’s fix it… glad I didn’t!
There are conspiracy theories about people in Hollywood. Jimmy Savile is often used as an example, to make you wonder who might else might be like that.
I remember writing to Jim’ll Fix It as a child and I’m pretty familiar with this case but the documentary was a hard watch. The monster was absolutely repellent and in hindsight, his capacity to harm others in a sexual manner is obvious. The fact he mixed so easily with ‘the establishment’ says a lot about those at the top of society in the United Kingdom. I wonder how many people manage to stay in the shadows to this day due to the protection of the powerful. The whole thing makes me shudder.
Nobody ever mentions the good ole pedophiles the Catholic Church. Us natives over here in Canada know the smokescreen that is religion. Never seen any god but they sure taught us that the devil is real.
I think this is one of the reasons people are losing faith and interest in maintaining the Monarchy. Prince William and Kate's Jubilee tour was such a PR disaster. People have really had it with "The Establishment"
That upsets me, too. I can't imagine how his victims felt if they saw him being interviewed on tv, then seeing the audience laugh at what we now know is the truth.
That was the 80's for you ! Men (& boys) got to make the most awful, inappropriate comments and it was just accepted. The 80's was the age of misogyny & sexism. I was a young girl then teenager in this era and had this happen (and worse) all the time. It was just laughed off, even by some grown women.
We weren't allowed to watch Jim'll Fix It. My dad thought there as something very "off" about JS, and didn't want to see him. If he happened to be presenting Top Of The Pops (different presenters each week, so you never knew who would be on) Dad would leave the room, he didn't want to watch him. I think my dad, who was orphaned at a young age, had come into contact with creepy men as a child, and just had a sense about such people.
He liked to wear brightly colored tracksuits and unusual glasses? People just assumed he was playing a character? Well, yes he was. In the same way John Wayne Gacy liked to play a character by wearing brightly colored face paint and a clown suit while also being very active in local charities and politics. Seemed like a trustworthy enough guy.
Same, his mannerisms and facial expressions made me uncomfortable. He reminded me of an animated corpse or some alien/creature mimicking human form. You know what I mean? Human appearance but something a bit off. Very creepy individual.
Absolutely, when he came on the TV, we switched it off. I couldn’t bear to watch or hear him- he used to set me on edge, but I never understood why that was at the time.
@@yakacmwhat are you talking about???.... loads of people were saying. Even some celebs made claims about him. Johnny rotton blasted him in a radio interview in the 80s.
@@yakacm You are quite wrong, Jimmy Saville's abuses were common knowledge long before people started to speak out, . He had massive ratings, very influential friends in high places, ie Prince Charles, Margaret Thatcher, Tony Blair, and god knows who else, that found him to be amusing. It takes no figuring out, how Saville was able to run amok, literally, doing what he liked, right under the noses, of the 'authorities' that gave him carte blanche, to do it!
Angelou also said: "My mission in life is not merely to survive, but to thrive; and to do so with some passion, some compassion, some humor, and some style.” Maya must have written that for Jimmy, as he certainly did that in spades, the sick f*****.
Well good for u. I guess you win the comments section for this video. You Tube will probably send you a trophy or something pretty soon to commemorate your triumphant victory here in the comments. Well done.
Andi did ages ago! It's very tricky to understand the phenomenon without witnessing his untouchable fame in a time when there were barely 3 TV channels. I never heard the rumours, nor did I even regard him as creepy.
I grew up mostly in the USA, but my mother remembers being creeped out by Jimmy Savile, and when all these stories came to light, she was utterly appalled, but not entirely surprised.
This guy really was the fairy godfather of my childhood in the UK. I so wanted to go on Jim’ll fix it as did every child. You had a wish. He made it come true. It really is scary to think of how many of these types are hiding behind a persona in our schools, churches, hospitals etc. In my child’s eyes he was seen as the cool rebellious grandad that I never had. Terrifying.
@Delaney Buckney: I remember Jimmy Savile well - l'm a 65 year old Brit who always thought Jimmy Savile was totally repugnant, despite all his popularity. There was something about him that made my skin creep when l was a young girl. My parents didn't think much of him, considering him to be a 'cheeky Charlie', so maybe my opinion of him was coloured by theirs, but even so, l was shocked when the truth came out about him.
I didn’t grow up in the Jimmy Saville era but how did people not get creeped out by him? I remember seeing his death coverage (first time I heard of him) I was like why is this weird creepy looking man being honoured? He just looks like Sombody you want to avoid, so I don’t get why people wanted to be on his show or let their kids around him.
Same here, we talked about Jim'll Fix It in the playground on Monday. I'm not one of those who retcons my childhood to claim I knew he was creepy, *he* *wasn't* to us kids. It wasn't until the Louis Theroux interview many many years later that I realised OMG this guy Is a *serious* deviant.
@@Monkeyatemysoul23 Honestly, we didn't (I'm 50ish BTW) Jim'll Fix It was the talk of the school playground on a Monday morning. Just imagine being 10 years old writing into a TV show that you wanted to pilot Concorde or you wanted to appear on stage with Bucks Fizz and he made it happen. Seriously, it wasn't until the 2000 documentary with Louis Theroux that I realised what a deviant (to put it very mildly) he was, my blооd ran cold. It set so many alarm bells ringing, yet in 1980 he was a hero.
I find it hard to believe that the producer of "jim'll fix it" never heard any rumors about him. Everyone seems so regretful now, but back in the days Jimmy brought a lot of money to the table and people didn't really care about his abuse as long they had well paid jobs in tv. The fact the scandal came up after his death speaks a lot about media.
Totally true. One boy who’d been abused by Saville said he was pure Evil. Absolutely nothing like the persona shown to the public. Makes my skin crawl! 😢
I worked at Stoke Mandeville Hospital on and off from the mid 90’s to mid 2000’s. I saw Jimmy Saville quite a few times. The nurses didn’t like him, the management loved him.
The Jim'll Fix It show was always turned off in my house as my mom and us kids found him so creepy & sleezy. My mom once said in the 90s "I know a deranged sex fiend when I see one." If me as a wee kid can tell he was a dirty creep, many adults surely knew. This is why I refuse the pay my BBC Tv license. The corporation is crooked af.
One reason why Savile got away with his crimes not mentioned in the video is that the law of libel in the UK is very plaintiff friendly and essentially applies in the same way for politicians and celebrities as for everyone else, which isn't the case in (e.g.) the US. It's a lot easier for someone with money to shut down hostile media coverage than in some countries, and he did this. There have been other notorious examples of this, like Robert Maxwell.
very good point.... I live in Dublin but spent 30 years in the US so I'm glad you mentioned the difference in the libel laws so people in the US can understand why he was able to get away with it for so long ..
I'm watching a 3 part documentary on the BBC about the Maxwell family.Disturbing ! The Mirror staff pension theft was a determinant in me not paying in to a private pension although i did later in life.
As far as I'm concerned the good he did does not rule out the bad. He harmed so many people, he will have a hard time finding a place in heaven .Thank you Dr Grande. Brilliant analysis and topic.
The UK really needs to remove the title, Sir, from Saviles name. It's disgusting for him to have it. Despite there being no procedure to posthumously revoke an OBE or knighthood because honors automatically expire when a person dies, the committee said they would consider introducing one due to the severity of his crimes.
@@simplyk6965 I was thinking more of the women he came across at work. The one where he licked around her hand and the other one where he covered her face with his hands. And how he was so forward with the woman on the talk show. They were grown women. So I my thoughts you can only imagine what he did to teenage girls when no-one was watching.
Whatever creepy stuff a creep does when they know others are watching, just multiply it by ten and that's what they're like when there's privacy. Lets go Brandon.
@@MrRyan-wu4jx Of course, as far as actions go, for sure. What I mean by it is that he was telling 'us' all along what he was and what he did and 'we' let him get away with it..
@@Guillermo_Carratero I understood what you were saying, my response is a variation of a Norm MacDonald joke about Bill Cosby. Someone told Norm the worst thing about what Bill Cosby did was the hypocrisy and he responded with what I typed to you.
"Creepy guy" alright. Very, very creepy. Although there have been a lot of people lining up to criticise JS now he is dead, I can remember trying to criticise him to friends and relatives, for years, while he was alive. Eerily there was always the same rebuff, "He does a lot of work for charity". As if, whatever else he was, this made him beyond criticism. I always thought this kind of heard behaviour or group-think showed a weakness in the character of my fellow Brits. Time to wake up and look at how else we are being lied to right now
Exactly. Makes you wonder what high profile celebrity is out there right now fooling everyone. Having said that, people are far more aware of of predators these days.
Good point ...Johnny Rotten suffered a lot for his exposure of Jimmy the Molester .. There is an interview with him on UA-cam in which Johnny details the consequences of exposing jimmy ... I think people discarded the message because of the messenger. ....
He didn't. He just called him a creep. He referred to rumours but didn't specify what what they were about. There was no mention of paedophilia at all or other sex offending. People just assumed he was a lecher. Plus Johnny slagged off everyone, including band members.
@@cleoldbagtraallsorts3380 he said he was a hypocrite and into all kinds of seediness! In hindsight Lyndon confirmed he was referring to Saviles child abusing. Don’t have to be a genius to know what Lyndon was referring to 😗
It's weird that John was seen as a a bad guy by the normies in those days whereas Savile was seen as a good guy. Really it was the other way round. I always like John and disliked Savile.
I grew up in Leeds. His misdeeds were kinda common knowledge growing up, I guess nobody thought that reporting it to police would achieve anything. Sad.
It was the same when he lived in Manchester so a friend told me. When she was a kid Savile lived in a nice house over the road and at the time there were a lot of very young men going in and out of his house so everyone assumed he was gay.
Absolutely, plus if anyone tried to bring him down he had the Royal Family and Government on his side. The man was considered a national hero... The only surprising thing about him was that he was friendly with Prince Charles and not Andrew.
He created a "a smoke screen out of the truth".. essentially everybody dismissed it because he looked like a pedo, and talked like a pedo, and we all thought it was him putting on a TV character.
Yeah. You've got yourself a case and a half right there. Him and "The Establishment" managed to f*** up the 80's for a lot of people. My thoughts will always be with his victims.
Watch Shaun Attwood's discussion with David Icke on Rumble about Saville. It's friggin' mindblowing. Combine that with the Netflix documentary, and you question why the Royal Family essentially allowed this pedophile to teach them PR skills and have involvement in affairs.
I used to watch "Jim'll Fix It" as a kid. We were all fooled by his eccentricity. People like Rolf Harris and 'Gary Glitter' too. The list is endless. Sub-humanity. In addition of course to the elite and the establishment.
I've been waiting for you to cover this one. It's so disgusting that he was never brought to justice in his life and died feeling that he'd won. He even got a lavish funeral and tributes paid by public figures. Seeing old footage of him makes my skin crawl.
Thanks for doing this. I was one of the people who requested it. His necrophilia and his being a brief suspect in the Yorkshire Ripper case add another dimension to this, though.
In my own local hospital recently the caught a necrophiliac and murderer He spent over 20 years being the maintenance man . And the CEO never resigned. Hospitals care rife with sexual predators.
@@beaulieuc8910 Horrible stuff. I believe, sadly, that there is a continuing proportion of health and mortuary workers who seem to enter the profession with abusive intent. Quite terrifying, really.
Wait a min...WHAT?! ive never heard that! But it doesnt surprise me if this man was kidnapping kids. The level of his depravity is shocking. Typically its a few things but he was into crazy stuff
Loui Theroux, did a great interview with him.He actually touched a young girl on camera in front of everyone but no one at that time noticed how inappropriate it was until a second documentary was made.The NHS would have been greatly effected should cases have gone to court, as they were responsible for allowing him access to patients.
@@vermilliongecko The fact that he knew he could do that and get away with it is so illustrative of his type of power. Hundreds pedos have used the same power, but none were as powerful as Saville.
Like some of the other commenters here, I grew up in the UK in the era when Savile was at the height of his fame but for the last decade I have lived in Ireland. What strikes me about the Savile case is how similar both his behaviour and the treatment of his victims is to that of abusers and those abused within the Catholic Church here in Ireland. People with seemingly unquestioned power in their community using their position to prey on the vulnerable for their own gratification - all whilst off-setting their 'sins' with the 'good' they do via their prominent role in that community (such as charitable works). And what saddens me even more is the amount of people who spoke out about their suffering at the hands of these people only to be silenced with dismissal, threats and, as I have heard several people relate in respect of the Church, even physical punishments for daring to suggest such behaviour on the part of a priest. Just as the establishment and many in the entertainment industry protected Savile, so the Church has, and continues to, protect child abusers in Ireland and around the the world. They deserve contempt for doing so - but so do those who dismissed or punished children who spoke out about what was happening to them - simply because they believed that a certain individual was beyond reproach. As a victim of childhood sexual abuse myself I understand the power of the abuser to manipulate, invalidate and terrify as necessary to achieve their twisted agenda, both in the case of their victims and those they convince that they are either innocent or that they should be protected rather than exposed. Nonetheless, there is an element of complicity on the part of those who do nothing and I hold those who could have intervened but who dismissed me when I asked for help also responsible for the trauma I am still enduring today - albeit to a lesser degree than my abuser. Of course, not all accusations made are true and I do appreciate that false accusations can have terrible consequences for the accused. However, I think much of the problem lies with the constructs of power that we create in our society, giving certain people - whether they are a celebrity, a religious/community leader or a family member - an automatic level of credibility and trustworthiness that others are not afforded. Granted, it is a difficult balance to achieve between vigilance to protect the vulnerable and living in fear of anyone and everyone but I believe that if we were to stop teaching our children that certain people have unquestionable power just because of a spurious social standing then it might become easier to achieve this balance.
@Tammy Saxton Wow, that's a thought-provoking and, I think, very true, statement regarding the relationship between abuser and enabler. Thank you for making it and for taking the time to acknowledge my contribution to this discussion.
Thank you for covering Savile's case. Excellent, informative analysis. Since the Savile case, other former Radio 1 DJs have been convicted of similar offences. The most recent of which was Mark Page, who was imprisoned for 12 years in March 2022. Page was once a local radio presenter in the area where I used to live. Sometime around 1980, he turned up at my school, as he was a former pupil. He was not in his normally lively radio persona, but a glum young man, making a dull, off-the-cuff speech. His facial expression was identical to the one in his police mugshot after his arrest. Although Page's crimes were carried out long after Savile's death, had Savile's crimes been taken seriously earlier, perhaps some of his colleagues would have been more reluctant to carry out their crimes.
He was like the excentric uncle, with the weird hairdo, the big cigar, golden rings and hideous track suits. We all suspected he was gay. Never did we consider he was really the worst human, you could find. And some at the BBC always knew it. No one spoke up. They are just as dispickable.
he also used to host senior police officers at his flat. 100s of people in authority at the bbc where he worked for years and others were complicit in his long years of offending. shameful.
One of the interesting things about Saville is that he was "popular" or at least popped up lots of times on television even running shows on his own account, but that no one I knew seemed to like him. We liked what he "appeared to do" but he was perceived as a real oddball and unpleasant. When the allegations of his crimes were made public no one was really surprised - only shocked that it hadn't been made public earlier. That was the thing which no one seemed to understand. How did he get away with it for so long? His charity work and volunteering worked a lot in his favour - although how much of this was real I do not know. I recall one editon of a program back in the 1970s, I think it was a news programme looking at a hospital and Saville just happened to appear dressed as a porter, supposedly doing his voluntary work there but my father commented that it was too much of a coincidence that he turned up when the cameras were there. On other occasions he would appear running over the finish line at marathons in aid of charity (we supposed), although after he was discredited I heard tell that he would cheat by driving most of the way and running only a short distance to the end. In fact I met him briefly in the 1980s. He was surrounded by people in a gift shop and I came over and stood near him. I remember admiring the way he made himself available to those people around him who were making a fuss at having seen someone famous, I decided I did not like him at all. I saw that he was very calculating; he scanned the group around him and he gave me a good look too as though sizing everything up. What the Saville case really demonstrated was how high profile, powerful people could effectively be protected by the media and other large, public organisations.
With Savile there was always this plausible deniability. There was no smoking gun in the form of concrete evidence. However he was very cunning and manipulative in cultivating people in power whether it be the media, police, politicians and royalty. He was regularly on British television projecting an image of generosity and charity. As a personality his eccentricities and overt weirdness was seen as Jimmy just being Jimmy, where I feel in hindsight it was far more calculating in creating a smokescreen. Even Louis Theroux, a skilled and experienced journalist who did a whole programme on him was taken in. If you didn’t grow up with Jimmy Savile on your screens and papers week in week out, it’s very difficult to describe how entwined he was in British life and psyche. He fooled everyone except those he abused.
Also on UA-cam is Pat Brown, criminal profiler. She did her take on this as well. She kind of thought that there might not have been a smoking gun in the form of concrete evidence too. But then again she thinks that the women that Bill Cosby drugged and had sex with voluntarily took the drugs knowing that they were going to have sex with him.
I repeatedly find it amazing that you can pack in all the relevant & interesting information on a subject in under 15 minutes. That’s a talent, Dr Grande!🤩
Saville was universally despised in my family. My parents and teen siblings could all see thru this man for the lecherous creep that he was whenever he appeared on tv. It astounded us all that he rose so high.
Two observations: one, he did good deeds only for access to vulnerable victims, and two, he got pleasure from telling the truth, albeit in a roundabout way. I don't see any true dichotomies between good and bad in his behavior, only manipulations.
Hello Dr. Grande💘 Thank you for the new video! I've been sick so I've missed the last couple videos, but I'm going to watch them right after I watch this one. I hope you're having a great weekend! Much love❣️
He raised so much money for charity [building whole hospitals] that he was seen as a saint by the public .Thousands of people lined the streets when he died .It was like millions were under a spell .
The British public are very gullible. They trust any cheeky chappie and eccentric. Many are into the royals who can do no wrong. The media paints nice royals but who knows what they are really up to behind their back
A schoolfriend's father was a detective in the police. They knew of Jimmy Saville in the early 1980s. My friends and I at the time could not believe he was like that.
One of the most fascinating insights into Savile is on a show called Open to Question. It is on UA-cam, should anybody wish to watch it. The audience challenge him over his image and other aspects of his personal character in such a way that his delfections look even weaker. Theres also an interview with Andrew Neil, called Is This Your Life?, a spin on This is Your Life, where the more salacious and controversial aspects of a person were highlighted. He pulls out a banana from his pocket and eats it, just as an old friend discusses an old flame.
@@bthomson a scoundrel is the lowest remark you can make about a man. After his death 400 pedophile comments were reported his behavior for 60 years. This guy was a scoundrel. It is not a compliment.
Thanks Dr Grande for covering this. Knew years before he died that he was up to no good. The guy was such a slimeball and the rumours about his activities were never ending.
I am surprised him working as a porter in hospitals wasn't covered. He said he loved moving dead bodies around, and how much power he had over them. He also had huge ugly rings that he wore, a d the suggestion was that he stole them from dead patients. I was desperate to be on Jim'll Fix It when I was eight, but even then, I knew there's no way I'd sit on his knee, as he was so creepy. My Mum told me it absolutely wasn't going to happen.
This is the beat analysis you have done yet (in my opinion) - I live in Dublin and grew up with the Jimmy Savile b.s... I always thought he was a creep .... just take a look at "Top of The Pops" music shows and see what he wore !! I hope you get an opportunity to do an analysis on the Nuns who ran the Magdeline Laundres in Ireland and the "mother and baby homes".. They were so cruel .. Please explain why women supposedly devoted to a "loving Jesus and his mother, Mary" could be so cruel to women and their babies .. Take a look at what happened at the site in Tuam, Ireland where the bodies of babies were put into underground concrete septic tanks .. Another analysis I would be interested in seeing, s that pf the people who knew what was going on and did nothing..
Many of Saville's lackeys retired in the city of Pattaya in Thailand, or Vietnam as in the case of Gary Glitter. Operation Yewtree (Scotland Yard) captured a few of these grubs in the UK but many more are still out these or they have passed on.
@@malimalou751 Tell us about it -- whole business makes me puke. One of the worst was some guy called "Som-Sak" Martin Frutin who died in 2010 or thereabouts, avoiding justice. Often these guys are connected with local LE. Cambodia is even worse with more than a few western "English teachers" getting caught. They can rot in local gaols.
"He didn't laugh at other people's jokes, he never validated their concerns, and he ignored indications that other people were uncomfortable with him." Yeesh. I've never heard of this guy but for this and many other reasons, sounds like a real weirdo and a total creep. Of course lots of money made people tolerate or look the other way but ugh.
@@deniseelsworth7816 I watched him all my childhood, too. I didn't pick up on anything at the time, but whenever I see footage of Jim'll Fix It, I can now see that he behaves coldly to the children, and he appears to be very detached from them. Although, he was such a psychopath, he was probably cold and detached from every person he met (apart from his mother) 🤮
@@deniseelsworth7816 I never noticed any tension in his hands. That's interesting. I wonder if that's why he always had a cigar in his hand, and all the jewellery, maybe to try and distract viewers' attention. I read a comment on another channel that said Savile was a skilled hypnotist. His cadence, repeated phrases, mannerisms, and how he would squeeze people's shoulders and wrists (which reduces blood flow) which makes the person less tuned in to their surroundings, and instead focus on him. He was so weird, it wouldn't surprise me if it was true.
@@deniseelsworth7816 That's actually a good way to describe him. I think he liked to keep people on the backfoot. He probably enjoyed confusing people. He himself admitted he was 'tricky'. At least he can't hurt any more innocent people.
"Hiding in plain sight" is the phrase that sticks with me. My male friend who suffered sexual abuse, always said Saville was a paedophile, which I scoffed at. Sure, he was eccentric, an oddball - but it was Jimmy, famous DJ & TV presenter, raised so much for charity, the 'bonkers Uncle' type who was entertaining & harmless.
As a child I thought there was something really creepy about Saville. The people who knew about him and kept quiet ( including many at the British Broadcasting Corporation over the years) should hang their heads in shame. Unfortunately they have no sense of shame.
I live in Scarborough, the town that Saville lived in with his mother for most of his life. When I first moved here about 25 years ago, I was revolted and amazed that Saville’s behaviour was pretty much an open secret, locals would tut and roll their eyes when talking about how he and the local ice-cream baron would trawl the seafront arcades in his Rolls Royce picking up kids and give out ice-cream in return for sexual favours. I wish I was kidding.
Yeah, Pepe was created to lovingly mock European men, especially the French. In real life French men had no problem seducing American women through stimulating conversation. So if you're a little jealous of that accent and that charm, you have to flip the reputation around, and depict them as stinky sex pests. Although there do turn out to be monsters of every gender and nationality, but mostly men.
Thank you! Pepe is adorable and Penelope his g/f is inked on my lower back. He started my interest in perfume. He was also hilarious. Sadly I have never been able to find "Skunk Cabbage" eau de parfum.
Society is to narcissists as flies are to…well… If something doesn't pass the smell test, shouldn't it be avoided? Dr. G, you're smart to meet people where they're at (Netflix 😆), turning known cases into teaching tools, speculating about what could be happening using your expertise. What a clever niche you've created for yourself. I hope people generalize what they learn from you and apply it to trials they encounter. You are a good teacher, Dr. G. 🍎
I’ve recently watched the Jimmy Savile documentary film on Netflix. It gave me chills from start to finish. Jimmy had an eccentric persona, yes, but he also had that other outward likable persona that the public were much more in tuned with. It’s so sad knowing that there were over a hundred or more individuals that Mr Savile himself took full advantage of. The sexual assault survivors never got the proper justice they’d been striving to get. I just hate the fact that Mr Savile managed to steer away from facing any legal consequences in his lifetime. Thank you for this analysis, Dr Grande. Very detailed and very informative.
I was waiting for you to do this case, Dr. G! Excellent analysis as always. This creep was an honest to God monster. I only wish these allegations had stuck during his lifetime.
@The Vintage Poet. Oh but this life doesn’t matter in the end. !!! His afterlife is forever not just 85 years ! God has prepared a place called hell for creeps such as he was
@@jesussaves7973 if I'm Not mistaken , it's in in the holy bible (Matthew) that Jesus had basically mentioned the only exception for a person to ever commit suicide ,(milestone around the neck..) is intended for the most evil people (such as savile) therefore sending themselves straight to hell, is the only way to ever avoid the inevitable wrath of The LORD.)
I remember seeing him on one episode of " Top of the pops" and my instinct said something was wrong as there was a girl in her early teens next to him and he was clearly holding on to her and she didn't look remotely happy with the situation. From that moment on I never wanted to watch anything with him in it.. this was in rhe 1970s
Lets see: he was narcissistic, grandiose, he was a pathological liar, confident, dominant, optimistic, arrogant, charismatic, had a need for admiration, had little empathy, a sense of entitlement, was manipulative, had superficial charm, and failed to accept responsibility. Plus he had weird hair. Sound like anybody else we all know?
What’s interesting to me is how many people see those characteristics, but they seem to be so far outnumbered by the masses who buy into it. It makes me truly sad for humanity how often these characters come along and manage to find such huge crowds of followers.
You nailed it completely doc! I cant remember a time when Jimmy Savile wasnt around and remember thinking, as early as the 60s that he was the creepiest person alive. I would never have written to Jim'l'fix it for anything, no matter how badly I wanted it. I dont know if thats because of my ASD but, I always considered the creep factor overwhelmed ANYTHING he could possibly offer. I really dont know why more people didnt get that vibe!
My brother and I met Jimmy Saville at a jewellers in Thirsk when we were school boys. He showed us his diamond encrusted watch and chains and said “one day lads, when you win the lottery, you’ll be able to get something like this”
Wow..I believe you..! But, if you think about it. Savile saying that to you, just kind of proves his deep rooted personal views on all children (in general)- as being invaluable useless humans, incapable of achieving any good, success in life , etc having to depend on "winning the lottery" to ever be able to attain such useless, irrelevant needless things in life. Instead of saying something more positive encouraging things to a child such as stay in school study hard, work hard, pray, save your money etc etc etc ..
That netflix doc was soooo sad and hard to watch. The pain of the victim who described her abuse was so strong even after so many years. I can't help but notice some similarities to the Woody Allen case. Thanks for analyzing this Dr. Grande. I always appreciate your down to earth POV.
Saville was responsible for many thousands of rapes of many kinds over many years, he never had an actual relationship with someone, his whole life was a set up to gain access to children and the helpless, people who could not protest. He was the artistic level of a trashy game show host and promoter. I can't see any similarities to Allen. I think closer to Joseph Smith, actually.
Woody Allen ? What ? How do you dare compare this proven monster to Woody Allen ? Don't you have any common sense ? Believe what you want about Allen but please, don't mention him in the same sentence with this creepy monster from hell.
@@Desi365 ummm did you watch the woody Allen documentary. Because if you did you'd know exactly what I'm talking about in regards to the sexual assault details. I'm not gonna let some stranger on UA-cam bully me into anything...
@@jonathanwobesky9507 I watched the documentary about that detailed the sexual assault. It is similar to the one described in the Saville documentary. He's an older well loved famous man that has been accused of pedophilia and is still being widely defended by ppl. If you don't see the similarity that's on you.
Like no one EVER has replied to one of my comments on UA-cam. But i mention woody Allen briefly and two ppl jump on me to defend him?? Wow, SMH. It's extremely important to note patterns in predators such as these. Anyone who doesn't see some of those patterns in both Saville and Allen is pretty much the problem.
'Hiding in plain site' - As said, his ability to create a creepy 'character', that people didn't believe was his 'real' character, was something he was incredibly skilled-at; truly terrifying
This is a really thoughtful and knowledgeable analysis and gives really helpful insight. Thanks. My only query is why would Charles asking for advice on image would be akin to Andrew giving advice on doing interviews or Will Smith on anger management, because, surely by the very fact that Savile managed to stay untouched until his death proves that he DID know how to manage his image well, and the fact he got found out once he died is almost like a joke on us, the public, when he can no longer be touched. As a Brit growing up with Savile on the telly every Saturday the Netflix documentary really does throw up some interesting thoughts, as people constantly ask how did he ever get away with it, and he must have had help, etc but my point is we were all complicit up until a point, it’s like we were under a spell like the emperor’s new clothes.
I think, though of course I may be wrong, that back then Charles was trying, very creditably, to understand what working class people were like, and Savile took advantage of his own working class background to suggest he could offer that. Savile also had that (irritating to me as a Lancastrian) 'professional Yorkshireman' front and played it to the full when it suited him. I think it can be difficult to spot a wrong 'un when they have a very different background to yourself. To me, as a working class person, Savile was an obvious creep and outlier and I loathed him. And as a kid, I knew when an adult was patronising and insincere, and Savile was all of that. But I can see it's not so easy to spot someone who is a fraud if you don't know what the genuine article is like.
@@alisonwilson9749 yes, can understand everything you point out, background definitely gives insight. All this makes one feel naive but as a southern child in a secluded environment most if not all of what you are so rightly pointed out would have gone right over my head.
I grew up with Jimmy Saville on my TV. He was everywhere. TV, radio, magazines, charity leaflets. As a kid, I just thought he was a weird guy with bad hair. The Cigar always creeped me out. But other than that, I never really gave him much thought. I loved the Jim'll fix it show; it was so heartwarming to see so many people have their dreams come true. A proper feelgood show. His charity work was astounding., too. There was nothing he wouldn't raise money for. To the outside world, he was a national treasure. And that's just one of the things that's so terrifying about him He fooled millions of people. Obviously some people knew the real Jimmy Saville., and they were silenced and his abuse and sexual depravity was brushed under the rug. Unforgivable.
I never knew about him until recently. He was undeniably scary strange. I find it difficult to understand why the people went crazy for him. I would run the opposite way.
I watched the documentary and I came to the conclusion that Savile only helped charities that would give him free access to his victims. That was the only reason why he helped those charities or any charities. They were simply access and at the same time they helped him hide his activities. Who is going to suspect such a generous, altruistic man of such horrors? Who would dare to ask about it without looking like a bad person trying to destroy such a good, selfless man. In the documentary, they talk about the interview Savile gave where he mentions his mafia-like behaviour with his employees. A journalist commented that the interview was to deflect from any more inquiries into his behaviour, to get the press off his back. His behaviour during interviews with women, in particular, show him 'misbehaving' which also contributes to the idea that he would not make 'those kinds of jokes' if he was actually misbehaving. I remember seeing Savile on Top of the Pops when I was a teenager and wondering what an 'old man' was doing on a programme about music for teenagers. I didn't watch the show because of him. I found him way too creepy. I'm sure I was not the only one. I only spent a year in England at that time and so never heard about Savile again until he was mentioned on the news in whatever country I was in at the time. I was not surprised. I think his frequent appearance on TV in shows like Jim'll fix it and top of the pops caused people to overlook their instincts. A bit the problem of 'I must be wrong because just look how everyone loves him, how popular he is, and all that good he has done for those children'..... One comment about this video, Prince Charles asking Savile for advice about how to talk to 'the common man' and what to say in certain populous circumstances actually made sense, in a way. Savile could certainly 'read' people and play them and he was a working class man. The royals in the UK are mainly seen as unreal people who live in a fantasy world, disconnected from the rest of the population. Here was a tremendously popular man, doing all that good and he was working class. Perfect. I think he was perceived by Prince Charles as a sort of conduit between the royals and the population. Right or wrong, I have no interest, but I can see how that would make sense, at the time. So not really the same as Will Smith advice on anger management or Prince Andrew and interviews. Prince Charles was not asking for advice on how to set up useful charities or how to run a tv show, just how to communicate with a level of society disconnected from the royal sphere but connected to Savile. I think Princess Diane was 'followed around' by Savile. He wanted to get into the pictures, the news with the Princess because she was a royal and she visited a lot of vulnerable people in institutions. Nobody knows what the princess thought about Savile. The Queen didn't seem too keen since Thatcher had to ask several times for the knighthood....
I remember watching him on TV as a child and TBH he seemed a bit creepy to me. I was shocked when I heard all about this aspect of his life, and what was unbelievable was how it was covered up for so many years by those in authority so that this sicko never got a day in jail.
I met Jimmy Savile in Broadmoor Hospital in the 1990s. He was pretty much universally despised by the nursing staff, but the hospital management team seemed to love him. Considering that Broadmoor is a high secure psychiatric hospital, it makes you wonder how manipulative Savile actually was to pull this off. A true psychopath with friends in high places.
Agree!!!
That's because people in high places like little kids too, they respected scuz bucket Saville because he had the rotten balls to do it in public 😟
@@xtinamarie_333 so sick isn't it. I often wonder if these "higher ups" just do things like this because they can. They get bored of being allowed to have everything they want so they go after something they're not supposed to have and get some sort of sick thrill out of it.
What was the personal vibe that you got off of him? He did an interview with a respected psychologist in the 90’s where he stated “emotions? I don’t got any” clear psychopath
@@xtinamarie_333 That's the problem. These creatures don't do it in public. Maybe Savile had something on his friends in high places that enabled all this evil shit to get swept under the carpet. Birds of a feather flock together!
What I found disgusting was the way they covered it up. My mum worked with a nurse that was transferred from Stoke Mandeville hospital because she walked in on Jimmy Savile as he was on top of a patient that was paralysed from the waste down. So she reported it and she got transferred to Milton Keynes hospital where she worked with my mum.
Ugh… so terrible 😢
what strikes me watching the netflix documentary is the fact that man abused so many kids and women for so long without being never really investigated !!! How is that even possible ? Because he was highly protected by his celebrity status ? Not only. I think he has been protected by his relationships with some powerful heads. Outrageous ! Imo if he was born 30 decades later, he would be in jail now. I hope so .
how come its like no one ever seems to know about this stuff until a documentary appears on netflix? then suddenly everyones an expert with some opinion to share. Not saying you the reader, im saying people in general, INCLUDING grande. Same happened when dmx died. Even though he posted so much stuff about his upcoming death beforehand
I can't unthink that. Extremely twisted individual.
Omg that just made my stomach turn. 🤢 He was truly a predator hiding in plain sight.
John Lydon talked about Jimmy Savile and his 'seediness' during a BBC radio interview in 1978 which was never broadcast because the British establishment was protecting Savile and many other well-known figures.
And they banned John Lydon from the BBC after he made the comments as well!
@@brainofthefrain To be fair, he made a LOT of comments worthy of being banned. 😉
@@Beedo_Sookcool name one
@@thewkovacs316 This is the modern internet; do your own research. 😉
Yep. John Lydon got well and truly cancelled!
My father knew Jimmy. I remember one day, in the 90's he said of him, "Jimmy Saville, never did anything that didn't benefit Jimmy Saville. That's all I'm going to say about the man." It was clear that he despised him.
How long or how well did he get to know him? That's what the anonymous letter written to the police said, too. His whole charity bit is just his cover and not altruistic at all. All for his own.
@@catsberry4858 He didn't talk about him much more than a couple of times. I don't know, but Dad was a pediatrician in the 70s.
He didn't even finish the marathon runs he did for charity, once the cameras were gone he had a chauffeur who picked him up and took him to a hotel,
thats a true narcissit for you everything about serving their own agenda
if only he was only merely a narcissist @@darrenmcintosh8471
I grew up and lived in Leeds in the ‘70’s. Every child I was friends with when I was a young knew him as a “dirty old man” - a sex offender. We would see him in the large local park where he lived and ran. I knew, as did my peers, that he was to be avoided. Just ask and believe children. Everyone knew. He had influential friends who protected him, in my view, to hide their own wrong doing. A (still current) National disgrace with him only one part of it.
Didn't Operation Yewtree target a bunch of different famous people in the UK? (I'm American and I don't know all the details unfortunately)
I'm from Leeds as well he had two personas he had his buddys in the Roundhay Park cafe and the Flying Pizza not me thanks !
My brother-in-law says he got clap from him. Though not directly, lol.
@@martinphilip8998 what ?
@@martinphilip8998and that ain't nothing to clap about👏👏👏
I rarely use the word "hate" in a serious, or actual way, but i do have actual profound hatred for this man. He is a foul stain on the history of humanity.
He was a monster..
i realy like him
You Hate a dead person 😆
@@OrbitalTrails-x5s the awful things he did live on ):
@@eddiebingbong7977 oh no .. it's going to be "one of those" kind of days. ... Siiiiiiighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Excellent analysis. I grew up in the era when Saville dominated popular culture here. He was a huge TV star in UK and his "Jim'll Fix It" offered to fulfil the childhood dreams of thousands of children. He, more than any other, has taught us never to trust the apparently kind but creepy man offering candy. You couldn't make it up. Thanks for covering more British subjects lately Dr Grande 😊
he was the presenter on that show....which ripped off an american tv show called "you asked for it"
the producers did all the work
I grew up in that era. I thought that the *idea* of the Jim'll Fix It series was a good one. Though they did have Ian Paisley on it once! 🙄
But WHY the BBC continued having him as the host, once suspicions of child abuse grew significant, I have NO idea! In my view, it is THEM who were responsible and should be sued! Didn't happen though.
Only one word can describe Jimmy Saville :DIABOLICAL
@@oneoflokis You bring up a very salient point about the BBC's knowledge of savile's crimes. It is said the media, i.e., BBC, newspapers, etc., have resorted to throwing the RF under the diversion bus because the RF are natural targets of resentment despite the fact it is said.the BBC & law enforcement
I too grew up in the 80's with Saville being treated like a God. I also wrote to the 'Jim'll Fix It' kids TV program. Thankfully I didn't get a reply.
"Villains who twirl their mustaches are easy to spot. Those who cloak themselves in good deeds are well camouflaged." 🖖
🙌🙌💯💯
He was both
Picard said it best didn't he!
Bill Clinton loved being caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
Jimmy Saville worked in Manchester UK as a DJ in the early to mid 1960's. He tried to force my 15 year old cousin and her friend to carry out what is referred to as a "s *x act" on him, he was well known for it around the Manchester club scene. My grandad and her father did not take well to the news of what he tried. Apparently after a "friendly words in his ear" carried out with their fists he apologised to my cousin for the "misunderstanding". I was the only person in my class at school who never watched "Jim"ll Fix It", my Grandad wouldn't watch anything with him in. He used to say "He might have fooled everyone else but I know exactly what he is". Everyone knew what he was, even in the 60's, which was why my Grandad didn't bother with the Police or his bosses at the club. He wasn't even discreet about what he did, he saw it as a "perk" of his status.
Props to your grandad for knowing what’s up and sticking to it
Lots of celebs did and still do.
Shamu: Good for your decent relatives!!!
That is a very telling tale. It shows exactly how filthy those times were. The veneer of decency became extremely thin. Of course many people knew what he was to some degree. Probably not the full extent of it, but the truth is that he "fit in" enough that men with power couldn't be bothered making something of it and women didn't have the power to do anything about it. He was exactly the sort of person my parents despised and this made them "old fashioned" and "judgemental" back then.
I got severely told off when I said I said I wanted to write to “Jim’ll Fix it”
I was told: “you want something, you write to me - I WILL fix it” 😄then Dad would swear in around three different languages as he angrily switched the channel
Around 1974 I wrote to Savile at Jim'll Fix It asking for him to arrange me to meet Evel Knieval, I was 12 at the time. I sent my letter to the BBC and excitedly told my siblings and mother. She replied that I shouldn't get my hopes up as even if Savile picked me to go on the TV show she wasn't letting me go near to Savile as he was a pervert. Some parents had a feeling about him and just knew he was a wrong 'un. That anecdote is not unusual here in the UK.
he didnt pick the participants...the producers did
and they made sure to only pick the ones where the asks were pretty easy to get without spending all that much money
My husband asked for the same thing 😂 Thankfully he got no reply either. A guy at my university college got to interview Robin Day - go figure. We played him the video to him on his birthday thinking it would be a funny surprise. God I hope it was now
He would always have the kids sit on his knee to get their medals, and I remember my Mum making a comment about it. I think she picked up on his paedo vibes. I can't remember what she said, but after all the allegations came out, I thought back to her comment.
@@travelwell6049 so how did your mom get it but million of other brits didnt?
how did he become so successful?
I’ve met and talked with Evel Knieval for a couple hours, he broke just about every bone in his body. He was very nice and personable.
I never liked Jimmy Saville but when the revelations came out i was shocked at the scale of them. The big problem was that his defenders were louder, richer and more powerful than anyone else. His work as a hospital porter or his marathons were lauded loudly. He had the run of hospitals with the most vulnerable patients including a high security psychiatric hospital and a spinal injuries centre and this was held up as evidence that he was good. i will never understand though why nobody asked what his motives were. he played the whole country for idiots and some of our most powerful people fell for his ruses completely. I hope they are examining their actions now.
He was just out to satisfy his own sick urges. He was a predator of the most vulnerable in our society.
I hope he's burning in Hell.
@@Time_to_Stop_Animal_Cruelty they don't and the big difference is that the people involved were convicted . Saville was protected by the establishment.....close friends included Thatcher , Prince Charles , Police chiefs etc etc
@@Time_to_Stop_Animal_Cruelty are you trying to say that the Multimillionaire white owners of most media companies don't report honestly and favour dark skinned people.
@@Time_to_Stop_Animal_Cruelty Not for the reasons you are thinking, I don't believe. The race of the perpetrators reflects the majority of a minority that live in that locale. Do you think all this didn't happen before, different era, different race of predators? It did. Quite often the local councillors, police etc were in on it too. Just like in the case you mention. Hope this information helps.
@@Time_to_Stop_Animal_Cruelty love your name! Animals lives do matter! 💕💙❣🐶🐱🐓🐎🦔🦜Rother ? What r u referring to?
Paedophilia just wasn't taken that seriously before (roughly) the 1990s. It was a thing that was joked & laughed about- dirty old flashers in long raincoats at the local park. The idea that there were 1000s of adults using state and private institutions to cover hardcore sexual abuse just wasn't on the agenda.
It depended which social class was affected. us plebs were the real preys. but by and large society didn't process it as we do in 2022 . the 90s were a god awful time to be a chile.
Jimmy Saville was not a pedophile. All of his supposed victims were above 14.
@@PHlophe child abuse has been endemic throughout history. It is not unique to any period of time.
Totally agree
Sickening and so sad. Hurt people go on to hurt others. Imagine all the carnage he's caused, including suicides and deep shame/addictions, ongoing abuses.
He literally confessed (multiple times) on camera yet the nation just laughed it off as Jimmy being Jimmy.
Hindsight is obviously 20/20, I grew up seeing him on telly ,I'm 48,and never really thought of him as anything other than a zany bloke, don't forget we are now shown particular images of him that reinforce what we now know.
I'm not religious but in this case I hope their is a hell.
People that do bad things almost always have to brag Soros, Klown Shuab, most Hollywood actors, public teachers on tik tok
Exactly
It certainly is a testament to the power of "humour" to hide sinister intentions. Men did that a lot in the 20th century. They would make a demeaning joke about a woman and if she protested they would tell her to "get a sense of humour" and "I was only joking, love". It was an extremely common tactic for silencing women. Feminism called it out and made those men extremely angry.
I've seen a lot of people saying he confessed but in hindsight it seemed more like bragging And he often said it in a manner which made people dismiss it all as a joke
The BBC executives who employed Saville were aware of his crimes as were the camera men and sound engineers etc who followed him into children hospital and care homes but suppressed this information because of Saville’s ability to attract huge audience numbers.
They didn't follow him 365 days a year. Also he had private rooms, sets of master keys to normally locked areas and a multitude of victims unable to communicate at all. He did say he wasn't clever, clever could trip you up, but tricky, which he was, never did. And he was right. His kids shows, he generally chose very small boys who didn't even know what had happened until after.
Also for a middle aged man to have a teen/woman in front of him in the 60/70s was all the reason they needed to pinch, grope, grind, fondle and be generally disgusting. This happened on buses, trains, in shops, offices etc. Also in front of cameras where it would "appear" he had pinched her bottom. That would be considered cheeky but probably nothing more.
He got away with it because the areas he put himself in were starved of attention, felt left out of the showy, metallic 70s and left to largely fester. (children's homes; juvenile female correctional schools, hospitals and psychiatric hospitals). People desperate to enter into even a little bit of that seemingly glamorous world would not be looking for anything like so obvious, or at all. Blinded by the light.
The other men involved, and there were many, all kept quiet because they were passing kids around themselves.
Well said, this is the era I remember.
@@newsjunkie7892 Ouch, I wince at the memories. Way way worse happened when at work though...
Other BBC celebrities knew all about him including that old hypocrite Esther Rantzen with her own children’s charity. Most maintain their innocent line that “nobody knew” which is a total lie.
Yes. I get angry about this- if it has been the kids of TV execs he was abusing he'd have been out of there in a heartbeat. So long as the kids he abused were working class kids the execs were fine with it carrying on. They disgust me.
I live in the US but grew up in England during the 1970s and 80s. Unfortunately, Savile’s media presence is part of my childhood. It’s hard to convey just how popular and admired Savile was in England during those years to US viewers of the Netflix documentary. His presence both on-screen and across the radio waves seemed to be without limits...top 40 singles countdown, kids tv shows, commercials, charity telethons, general entertainment. Think of Dick Clark, Mr Rogers and Jerry Lewis rolled into one. Despite this, I never liked him. His eyes terrified me as a kid. They just weren’t human. It should be noted that his colleagues at the BBC (who many Americans admire and look to for trusted journalism and quality drama and comedy) knew of his crimes and therefore acted as his enablers. They knew he was raping children and did nothing. Let that sink in.
His eyes gave me the creeps. Kids can often tell when adults aren't being sincere- I never thought he was, not ever.
There were doing the very same thing.
Eyes always tell the truth.
@@franciet99 Yes and No. As someone with an ASD I avoid eye contact because it drains me and I just don’t like it. I tend to look at a persons collar bone during a conversation. I prefer wearing sunglasses. Not everyone I know, obviously, knows that. Co-workers and clients alike have complained.
As a child, I remember feeling that Savile was the uncle who clip you around the ear when nobody was looking. Superficially kind and clownish but with a vicious temper.
It must be absolutely insane to non Brits that someone so out in the open about his predilections could have fooled not only the country, but the entire establishment to the highest levels. But, as a kid, he really was seen as a loveable character. I remember wanting to go on Jim’s fix it… glad I didn’t!
Lucky escape. Jeez.
There are conspiracy theories about people in Hollywood. Jimmy Savile is often used as an example, to make you wonder who might else might be like that.
But he didn't fool them all did he. A lot were complicit.
As a non Brit, yes he is clear as day a pervert
@@susanplatt5331 no, he fooled them
I remember writing to Jim’ll Fix It as a child and I’m pretty familiar with this case but the documentary was a hard watch. The monster was absolutely repellent and in hindsight, his capacity to harm others in a sexual manner is obvious. The fact he mixed so easily with ‘the establishment’ says a lot about those at the top of society in the United Kingdom. I wonder how many people manage to stay in the shadows to this day due to the protection of the powerful. The whole thing makes me shudder.
Not only the UK!
Like Prince Andrew?
It's amazing how establishment won't protect children.
Nobody ever mentions the good ole pedophiles the Catholic Church. Us natives over here in Canada know the smokescreen that is religion. Never seen any god but they sure taught us that the devil is real.
I think this is one of the reasons people are losing faith and interest in maintaining the Monarchy. Prince William and Kate's Jubilee tour was such a PR disaster. People have really had it with "The Establishment"
What makes me so cross is watching interviews where people were laughing their heads off at his inappropriate comments.
Not really laughing, not much anyway. They come to be entertained knowing he is a clown, but to me that laughs was squeezed
That upsets me, too. I can't imagine how his victims felt if they saw him being interviewed on tv, then seeing the audience laugh at what we now know is the truth.
@@rabbitsonjupiter6824 they knew they didn't stand a chance if they complained
@@elsajones6325 So true. The evil deviant ruined the lives of so many people, and then mocked them for decades.
That was the 80's for you ! Men (& boys) got to make the most awful, inappropriate comments and it was just accepted. The 80's was the age of misogyny & sexism. I was a young girl then teenager in this era and had this happen (and worse) all the time. It was just laughed off, even by some grown women.
We weren't allowed to watch Jim'll Fix It. My dad thought there as something very "off" about JS, and didn't want to see him. If he happened to be presenting Top Of The Pops (different presenters each week, so you never knew who would be on) Dad would leave the room, he didn't want to watch him. I think my dad, who was orphaned at a young age, had come into contact with creepy men as a child, and just had a sense about such people.
You are right, and your dad had that intuition to sense evil people easily
Intuition, 💯% 👍🏼
He liked to wear brightly colored tracksuits and unusual glasses? People just assumed he was playing a character? Well, yes he was. In the same way John Wayne Gacy liked to play a character by wearing brightly colored face paint and a clown suit while also being very active in local charities and politics. Seemed like a trustworthy enough guy.
It's ironic that he had the word 'vile' in his name.
What other word out of those 4 letters... Evil !
touché, mate !
Jimmy So vile...
@@junglekimmy3611 or Jimmy so evil!
Yes. I noticed that myself a while back
I always found this man a repulsive weirdo. I could never understand why he was so popular.
Creepy for sure.
Same, his mannerisms and facial expressions made me uncomfortable. He reminded me of an animated corpse or some alien/creature mimicking human form. You know what I mean? Human appearance but something a bit off. Very creepy individual.
Absolutely, when he came on the TV, we switched it off. I couldn’t bear to watch or hear him- he used to set me on edge, but I never understood why that was at the time.
@@yakacmwhat are you talking about???.... loads of people were saying. Even some celebs made claims about him. Johnny rotton blasted him in a radio interview in the 80s.
@@yakacm You are quite wrong, Jimmy Saville's abuses were common knowledge long before people started to speak out, . He had massive ratings, very influential friends in high places, ie Prince Charles, Margaret Thatcher, Tony Blair, and god knows who else, that found him to be amusing. It takes no figuring out, how Saville was able to run amok, literally, doing what he liked, right under the noses, of the 'authorities' that gave him carte blanche, to do it!
@@yakacm I felt the same with Micheal Barrymore too, he used to put me on edge and I’d have to turn the TV to another show
If it walks like a duck it probably really is a duck. And, as Maya Angelou said, “if someone shows you who they are, believe them”.
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Angelou also said: "My mission in life is not merely to survive, but to thrive; and to do so with some passion, some compassion, some humor, and some style.” Maya must have written that for Jimmy, as he certainly did that in spades, the sick f*****.
My favorite basketball American poet
Yes, thanks for doing Savile, I requested it!
Well good for u. I guess you win the comments section for this video. You Tube will probably send you a trophy or something pretty soon to commemorate your triumphant victory here in the comments. Well done.
@@tommygoode9644 Nobody was talking to you., move on. What is going on, you don’t have any friends?
@@tommygoode9644 don't be like that 😂
@@tommygoode9644 looks like you’re mad
Andi did ages ago! It's very tricky to understand the phenomenon without witnessing his untouchable fame in a time when there were barely 3 TV channels. I never heard the rumours, nor did I even regard him as creepy.
I grew up mostly in the USA, but my mother remembers being creeped out by Jimmy Savile, and when all these stories came to light, she was utterly appalled, but not entirely surprised.
This guy really was the fairy godfather of my childhood in the UK. I so wanted to go on Jim’ll fix it as did every child. You had a wish. He made it come true. It really is scary to think of how many of these types are hiding behind a persona in our schools, churches, hospitals etc. In my child’s eyes he was seen as the cool rebellious grandad that I never had. Terrifying.
@Delaney Buckney: I remember Jimmy Savile well - l'm a 65 year old Brit who always thought Jimmy Savile was totally repugnant, despite all his popularity. There was something about him that made my skin creep when l was a young girl. My parents didn't think much of him, considering him to be a 'cheeky Charlie', so maybe my opinion of him was coloured by theirs, but even so, l was shocked when the truth came out about him.
I didn’t grow up in the Jimmy Saville era but how did people not get creeped out by him? I remember seeing his death coverage (first time I heard of him) I was like why is this weird creepy looking man being honoured? He just looks like Sombody you want to avoid, so I don’t get why people wanted to be on his show or let their kids around him.
Same here, we talked about Jim'll Fix It in the playground on Monday. I'm not one of those who retcons my childhood to claim I knew he was creepy, *he* *wasn't* to us kids. It wasn't until the Louis Theroux interview many many years later that I realised OMG this guy Is a *serious* deviant.
@@Monkeyatemysoul23 Honestly, we didn't (I'm 50ish BTW) Jim'll Fix It was the talk of the school playground on a Monday morning. Just imagine being 10 years old writing into a TV show that you wanted to pilot Concorde or you wanted to appear on stage with Bucks Fizz and he made it happen.
Seriously, it wasn't until the 2000 documentary with Louis Theroux that I realised what a deviant (to put it very mildly) he was, my blооd ran cold. It set so many alarm bells ringing, yet in 1980 he was a hero.
I find it hard to believe that the producer of "jim'll fix it" never heard any rumors about him. Everyone seems so regretful now, but back in the days Jimmy brought a lot of money to the table and people didn't really care about his abuse as long they had well paid jobs in tv. The fact the scandal came up after his death speaks a lot about media.
They needed this program, its a business and money
They did women complained and they excused it as Jimmy being Jimmy. Totally disgusting.
@@анниелниф The BBC is not a business.
@@nkt1 Showbusiness
Supposedly, the BBC were aware to the point where they “knew” he was with a child/woman in his dressing room, they’d close the door/turn a blind eye
HE WAS EVIL AND SO WERE THE ONES WHO LET HIM CARRY ON WITH HIS EVIL
This fk was protected by the BBC
Bingo!
Totally true. One boy who’d been abused by Saville said he was pure Evil. Absolutely nothing like the persona shown to the public. Makes my skin crawl! 😢
Yes.🤮🤬😔
I worked at Stoke Mandeville Hospital on and off from the mid 90’s to mid 2000’s. I saw Jimmy Saville quite a few times. The nurses didn’t like him, the management loved him.
The management or people in higher places in organizations are pure psychopaths.
The Jim'll Fix It show was always turned off in my house as my mom and us kids found him so creepy & sleezy. My mom once said in the 90s "I know a deranged sex fiend when I see one." If me as a wee kid can tell he was a dirty creep, many adults surely knew. This is why I refuse the pay my BBC Tv license. The corporation is crooked af.
We spell mum with a 'u' in the middle in the uk not an 'o' , just sayin.
One reason why Savile got away with his crimes not mentioned in the video is that the law of libel in the UK is very plaintiff friendly and essentially applies in the same way for politicians and celebrities as for everyone else, which isn't the case in (e.g.) the US. It's a lot easier for someone with money to shut down hostile media coverage than in some countries, and he did this. There have been other notorious examples of this, like Robert Maxwell.
very good point.... I live in Dublin but spent 30 years in the US so I'm glad you mentioned the difference in the libel laws so people in the US can understand why he was able to get away with it for so long ..
Yes, thank you for sharing!
I'm watching a 3 part documentary on the BBC about the Maxwell family.Disturbing ! The Mirror staff pension theft was a determinant in me not paying in to a private pension although i did later in life.
That's the way our self entitled elite like it
Is their presumption on Innocence in UK or are you guilty until proven innocent
As a Brit, I’m impressed with the quality analysis on display. I think your summary of Saville’s character is spot on.
As far as I'm concerned the good he did does not rule out the bad. He harmed so many people, he will have a hard time finding a place in heaven .Thank you Dr Grande. Brilliant analysis and topic.
I think he hopped straight into the express elevator to the basement, GOING DOWN! If you get my meaning 👺😬
The UK really needs to remove the title, Sir, from Saviles name. It's disgusting for him to have it.
Despite there being no procedure to posthumously revoke an OBE or knighthood because honors automatically expire when a person dies, the committee said they would consider introducing one due to the severity of his crimes.
It was removed and his grave stone
The name "sir... whats your face" should not be respected in the first place. These titles are stupid and arrogant.
How he treated women in plain sight was appalling. Highly disturbing just watching that let only knowing what he did behind the scenes,
They were not women, they were teenage girls.
@@simplyk6965 I was thinking more of the women he came across at work. The one where he licked around her hand and the other one where he covered her face with his hands. And how he was so forward with the woman on the talk show. They were grown women. So I my thoughts you can only imagine what he did to teenage girls when no-one was watching.
Whatever creepy stuff a creep does when they know others are watching, just multiply it by ten and that's what they're like when there's privacy. Lets go Brandon.
@@tulipchic34 Agreed. He did things in plain sight with teens too. Top of the Pops comes to mind and his car rides.
The most disturbing thing was that he made all these veiled comments about his crimes over the years.. "My case is up next thursday"
He hid in plain sight. He literally looked evil.
I disagree, I think the most disturbing thing was the ra ping.
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Of course, as far as actions go, for sure. What I mean by it is that he was telling 'us' all along what he was and what he did and 'we' let him get away with it..
@@Guillermo_Carratero I understood what you were saying, my response is a variation of a Norm MacDonald joke about Bill Cosby. Someone told Norm the worst thing about what Bill Cosby did was the hypocrisy and he responded with what I typed to you.
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Ahh, that went over my head indeed. Norm was great though RIP
"Creepy guy" alright. Very, very creepy.
Although there have been a lot of people lining up to criticise JS now he is dead, I can remember trying to criticise him to friends and relatives, for years, while he was alive.
Eerily there was always the same rebuff, "He does a lot of work for charity". As if, whatever else he was, this made him beyond criticism.
I always thought this kind of heard behaviour or group-think showed a weakness in the character of my fellow Brits.
Time to wake up and look at how else we are being lied to right now
Epstein did a lot of charity too.
Excellent comment! And a very wise conclusion !
Exactly. Makes you wonder what high profile celebrity is out there right now fooling everyone.
Having said that, people are far more aware of of predators these days.
People use the same excuse for Bill Gates, it’s what they’ve been told to think.
@@kittyroars8758 If it were just celebs we could deal with it. The problem is it is also people with real power - money and political power
Johnny Rotten attempted to expose this guy back in the 70s but it got brushed off. smh
Good point ...Johnny Rotten suffered a lot for his exposure of Jimmy the Molester ..
There is an interview with him on UA-cam in which Johnny details the consequences of exposing jimmy ...
I think people discarded the message because of the messenger. ....
Shelley, case closed.
Explains it all.
He didn't. He just called him a creep. He referred to rumours but didn't specify what what they were about. There was no mention of paedophilia at all or other sex offending. People just assumed he was a lecher. Plus Johnny slagged off everyone, including band members.
@@cleoldbagtraallsorts3380 he said he was a hypocrite and into all kinds of seediness! In hindsight Lyndon confirmed he was referring to Saviles child abusing. Don’t have to be a genius to know what Lyndon was referring to 😗
It's weird that John was seen as a a bad guy by the normies in those days whereas Savile was seen as a good guy. Really it was the other way round. I always like John and disliked Savile.
I just watched the documentary the other night. That man was a monster. Was shocked that he got away with all that for so long.
@cris True. Just gross.
People also don't want to believe the horror
@cris He had high level flying monkeys. The good with the bad is mixing lies with the truth and is another Dark Triad strategy.
@@yvonnesanders4308 Cognitive dissonance
I watched it couple of days ago..what a sick pervert...
I grew up in Leeds. His misdeeds were kinda common knowledge growing up, I guess nobody thought that reporting it to police would achieve anything. Sad.
It was the same when he lived in Manchester so a friend told me. When she was a kid Savile lived in a nice house over the road and at the time there were a lot of very young men going in and out of his house so everyone assumed he was gay.
Jimmy Savile, an institution who should have been an inmate in an institution.
Nah… end of a rope
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Yep.
An evil guy, who fooled many with his eccentric good guy, act. In essence, he hid in plain sight.
I know people who have suffered institutional abuse, he a disgusting evil person.
he was well protected and had connections
Many a human monster hides in plain sight. You never really know what goes on in someone else's head.
Absolutely, plus if anyone tried to bring him down he had the Royal Family and Government on his side. The man was considered a national hero... The only surprising thing about him was that he was friendly with Prince Charles and not Andrew.
He created a "a smoke screen out of the truth".. essentially everybody dismissed it because he looked like a pedo, and talked like a pedo, and we all thought it was him putting on a TV character.
Yeah. You've got yourself a case and a half right there. Him and "The Establishment" managed to f*** up the 80's for a lot of people. My thoughts will always be with his victims.
Watch Shaun Attwood's discussion with David Icke on Rumble about Saville. It's friggin' mindblowing. Combine that with the Netflix documentary, and you question why the Royal Family essentially allowed this pedophile to teach them PR skills and have involvement in affairs.
I used to watch "Jim'll Fix It" as a kid. We were all fooled by his eccentricity.
People like Rolf Harris and 'Gary Glitter' too. The list is endless.
Sub-humanity. In addition of course to the elite and the establishment.
@@mirandabrunskill7755 right. Arrogance and ignorance.
I've been waiting for you to cover this one. It's so disgusting that he was never brought to justice in his life and died feeling that he'd won. He even got a lavish funeral and tributes paid by public figures. Seeing old footage of him makes my skin crawl.
Thanks for doing this. I was one of the people who requested it. His necrophilia and his being a brief suspect in the Yorkshire Ripper case add another dimension to this, though.
In my own local hospital recently the caught a necrophiliac and murderer
He spent over 20 years being the maintenance man . And the CEO never resigned. Hospitals care rife with sexual predators.
@@beaulieuc8910 Horrible stuff. I believe, sadly, that there is a continuing proportion of health and mortuary workers who seem to enter the profession with abusive intent. Quite terrifying, really.
Wait a min...WHAT?! ive never heard that! But it doesnt surprise me if this man was kidnapping kids. The level of his depravity is shocking. Typically its a few things but he was into crazy stuff
I was completely familiar with the story going into it, but still thought this was an excellent documentary.
Me too but it is so good to hear this perspective!
That guy was really twisted. Any chance at an analysis of Gary Glitter or Ian Watkins?
Just make sure it's the right Ian Watkins!
@@amcluesent Yeah, it was pretty screwed up when H was targeted just because he had the same name.
This it seemed garry glitter, rolf harris and Jimmy Savile all came close together
Aren't you Ian's fan?
I requested Gary Glitter as well 👍🏻
Loui Theroux, did a great interview with him.He actually touched a young girl on camera in front of everyone but no one at that time noticed how inappropriate it was until a second documentary was made.The NHS would have been greatly effected should cases have gone to court, as they were responsible for allowing him access to patients.
Agreed, Louis Theroux did a brilliant interview with Saville. You can also tell that Louis was a tad uncomfortable with him throughout.
@@vermilliongecko The fact that he knew he could do that and get away with it is so illustrative of his type of power. Hundreds pedos have used the same power, but none were as powerful as Saville.
@@vermilliongecko he was comfortable bc they allowed it
Remind you of any American presidents?
@@RunninQHsRock Clinton
Like some of the other commenters here, I grew up in the UK in the era when Savile was at the height of his fame but for the last decade I have lived in Ireland. What strikes me about the Savile case is how similar both his behaviour and the treatment of his victims is to that of abusers and those abused within the Catholic Church here in Ireland. People with seemingly unquestioned power in their community using their position to prey on the vulnerable for their own gratification - all whilst off-setting their 'sins' with the 'good' they do via their prominent role in that community (such as charitable works). And what saddens me even more is the amount of people who spoke out about their suffering at the hands of these people only to be silenced with dismissal, threats and, as I have heard several people relate in respect of the Church, even physical punishments for daring to suggest such behaviour on the part of a priest.
Just as the establishment and many in the entertainment industry protected Savile, so the Church has, and continues to, protect child abusers in Ireland and around the the world. They deserve contempt for doing so - but so do those who dismissed or punished children who spoke out about what was happening to them - simply because they believed that a certain individual was beyond reproach. As a victim of childhood sexual abuse myself I understand the power of the abuser to manipulate, invalidate and terrify as necessary to achieve their twisted agenda, both in the case of their victims and those they convince that they are either innocent or that they should be protected rather than exposed. Nonetheless, there is an element of complicity on the part of those who do nothing and I hold those who could have intervened but who dismissed me when I asked for help also responsible for the trauma I am still enduring today - albeit to a lesser degree than my abuser.
Of course, not all accusations made are true and I do appreciate that false accusations can have terrible consequences for the accused. However, I think much of the problem lies with the constructs of power that we create in our society, giving certain people - whether they are a celebrity, a religious/community leader or a family member - an automatic level of credibility and trustworthiness that others are not afforded. Granted, it is a difficult balance to achieve between vigilance to protect the vulnerable and living in fear of anyone and everyone but I believe that if we were to stop teaching our children that certain people have unquestionable power just because of a spurious social standing then it might become easier to achieve this balance.
@Tammy Saxton Wow, that's a thought-provoking and, I think, very true, statement regarding the relationship between abuser and enabler. Thank you for making it and for taking the time to acknowledge my contribution to this discussion.
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Yes, it's so appalling.🤬🤮 Sorry for what you went through. May you heal and find peace.😔🙏❤️
@@blueStarKitt7924 Thank you so much for taking the time to reply and leave kind words.
Thank you for covering Savile's case. Excellent, informative analysis. Since the Savile case, other former Radio 1 DJs have been convicted of similar offences. The most recent of which was Mark Page, who was imprisoned for 12 years in March 2022. Page was once a local radio presenter in the area where I used to live. Sometime around 1980, he turned up at my school, as he was a former pupil. He was not in his normally lively radio persona, but a glum young man, making a dull, off-the-cuff speech. His facial expression was identical to the one in his police mugshot after his arrest.
Although Page's crimes were carried out long after Savile's death, had Savile's crimes been taken seriously earlier, perhaps some of his colleagues would have been more reluctant to carry out their crimes.
He was like the excentric uncle, with the weird hairdo, the big cigar, golden rings and hideous track suits. We all suspected he was gay.
Never did we consider he was really the worst human, you could find. And some at the BBC always knew it. No one spoke up. They are just as dispickable.
And the BBC are making a programme about him too..
I can’t figure the Brits out. Look at the guy! His act was a creepy old pervert.
@@trayccox8223 who is paying for it? Megan?
he also used to host senior police officers at his flat. 100s of people in authority at the bbc where he worked for years and others were complicit in his long years of offending. shameful.
They are all living great lives on their amazing pensions
One of the interesting things about Saville is that he was "popular" or at least popped up lots of times on television even running shows on his own account, but that no one I knew seemed to like him. We liked what he "appeared to do" but he was perceived as a real oddball and unpleasant. When the allegations of his crimes were made public no one was really surprised - only shocked that it hadn't been made public earlier.
That was the thing which no one seemed to understand. How did he get away with it for so long?
His charity work and volunteering worked a lot in his favour - although how much of this was real I do not know. I recall one editon of a program back in the 1970s, I think it was a news programme looking at a hospital and Saville just happened to appear dressed as a porter, supposedly doing his voluntary work there but my father commented that it was too much of a coincidence that he turned up when the cameras were there. On other occasions he would appear running over the finish line at marathons in aid of charity (we supposed), although after he was discredited I heard tell that he would cheat by driving most of the way and running only a short distance to the end.
In fact I met him briefly in the 1980s. He was surrounded by people in a gift shop and I came over and stood near him. I remember admiring the way he made himself available to those people around him who were making a fuss at having seen someone famous, I decided I did not like him at all. I saw that he was very calculating; he scanned the group around him and he gave me a good look too as though sizing everything up.
What the Saville case really demonstrated was how high profile, powerful people could effectively be protected by the media and other large, public organisations.
With Savile there was always this plausible deniability. There was no smoking gun in the form of concrete evidence. However he was very cunning and manipulative in cultivating people in power whether it be the media, police, politicians and royalty. He was regularly on British television projecting an image of generosity and charity. As a personality his eccentricities and overt weirdness was seen as Jimmy just being Jimmy, where I feel in hindsight it was far more calculating in creating a smokescreen. Even Louis Theroux, a skilled and experienced journalist who did a whole programme on him was taken in. If you didn’t grow up with Jimmy Savile on your screens and papers week in week out, it’s very difficult to describe how entwined he was in British life and psyche. He fooled everyone except those he abused.
Also on UA-cam is Pat Brown, criminal profiler. She did her take on this as well. She kind of thought that there might not have been a smoking gun in the form of concrete evidence too. But then again she thinks that the women that Bill Cosby drugged and had sex with voluntarily took the drugs knowing that they were going to have sex with him.
I repeatedly find it amazing that you can pack in all the relevant & interesting information on a subject in under 15 minutes. That’s a talent, Dr Grande!🤩
Nothing better than Dr Grande on the weekend.🎆
(Even if the topic is uber-disturbing. 😬)
My thoughts are with the victims of this evil being. He had access to the most vulnerable people . It’s horrifying
It's absolutely disgusting that he got away with it. He hurt so many children and they never got justice.
And some women as well.🤮🤬😔
Saville was universally despised in my family. My parents and teen siblings could all see thru this man for the lecherous creep that he was whenever he appeared on tv. It astounded us all that he rose so high.
Two observations: one, he did good deeds only for access to vulnerable victims, and two, he got pleasure from telling the truth, albeit in a roundabout way. I don't see any true dichotomies between good and bad in his behavior, only manipulations.
Hello Dr. Grande💘 Thank you for the new video! I've been sick so I've missed the last couple videos, but I'm going to watch them right after I watch this one. I hope you're having a great weekend! Much love❣️
Really glad you did the case, Dr G. Interesting to hear your thoughts.
He raised so much money for charity [building whole hospitals] that he was seen as a saint by the public .Thousands of people lined the streets when he died .It was like millions were under a spell .
The British public are very gullible. They trust any cheeky chappie and eccentric. Many are into the royals who can do no wrong. The media paints nice royals but who knows what they are really up to behind their back
Knowing what he did to the dead in the hospital morgue, its horrifying to think what he was doing for those five days alone with his dead mother.
A schoolfriend's father was a detective in the police. They knew of Jimmy Saville in the early 1980s. My friends and I at the time could not believe he was like that.
One of the most fascinating insights into Savile is on a show called Open to Question. It is on UA-cam, should anybody wish to watch it. The audience challenge him over his image and other aspects of his personal character in such a way that his delfections look even weaker. Theres also an interview with Andrew Neil, called Is This Your Life?, a spin on This is Your Life, where the more salacious and controversial aspects of a person were highlighted. He pulls out a banana from his pocket and eats it, just as an old friend discusses an old flame.
He was considered to be a scoundrel.
Thank you for this exceptional analysis.
Does the word scoundrel have just a hint of positive bad boy but interesting vibe or is it just me?
@@bthomson No. Han Solo, Casanova, Ben Franklin -- THESE are scoundrels. Jimmy Savile is simply a horrible, soulless piece of filth.
@@bthomson a scoundrel is the lowest remark you can make about a man. After his death 400 pedophile comments were reported his behavior for 60 years. This guy was a scoundrel.
It is not a compliment.
I was in boarding in England and thought he was repugnant. Never met anyone who liked him. Yuck 🤮
Thanks Dr Grande for covering this. Knew years before he died that he was up to no good. The guy was such a slimeball and the rumours about his activities were never ending.
I am surprised him working as a porter in hospitals wasn't covered. He said he loved moving dead bodies around, and how much power he had over them. He also had huge ugly rings that he wore, a d the suggestion was that he stole them from dead patients.
I was desperate to be on Jim'll Fix It when I was eight, but even then, I knew there's no way I'd sit on his knee, as he was so creepy. My Mum told me it absolutely wasn't going to happen.
Hi Dr. Grande! Hope you’re having a good day! Your channel keeps growing, good for you!
Very interesting as always.
This is the beat analysis you have done yet (in my opinion) - I live in Dublin and grew up with the Jimmy Savile b.s...
I always thought he was a creep .... just take a look at "Top of The Pops" music shows and see what he wore !!
I hope you get an opportunity to do an analysis on the Nuns who ran the Magdeline Laundres in Ireland
and the "mother and baby homes"..
They were so cruel ..
Please explain why women supposedly devoted to a "loving Jesus and his mother, Mary"
could be so cruel to women and their babies ..
Take a look at what happened at the site in Tuam, Ireland where the bodies of babies were put into underground concrete septic tanks ..
Another analysis I would be interested in seeing, s that pf the people who knew what was going on and did nothing..
I saw a TV documentary many years ago about this case ! It shook me to the core. Still feel sick at the mere mention of that name: Magdeline Laundres!
Many of Saville's lackeys retired in the city of Pattaya in Thailand, or Vietnam as in the case of Gary Glitter. Operation Yewtree (Scotland Yard) captured a few of these grubs in the UK but many more are still out these or they have passed on.
So they retired to places where there would be guaranteed even greater supplies of young flesh and total immunity ! How disgusting !
@@malimalou751 Tell us about it -- whole business makes me puke. One of the worst was some guy called "Som-Sak" Martin Frutin who died in 2010 or thereabouts, avoiding justice. Often these guys are connected with local LE. Cambodia is even worse with more than a few western "English teachers" getting caught. They can rot in local gaols.
@@michaeless882 How can these people ever be stopped? It's like trying to cut the head off Medusa 👹
I've been seeing uploads on this topic everywhere! I'm glad Dr. Grande is covering it though because I prefer to listen to him 👍😎
"He didn't laugh at other people's jokes, he never validated their concerns, and he ignored indications that other people were uncomfortable with him." Yeesh. I've never heard of this guy but for this and many other reasons, sounds like a real weirdo and a total creep. Of course lots of money made people tolerate or look the other way but ugh.
@@deniseelsworth7816 I watched him all my childhood, too. I didn't pick up on anything at the time, but whenever I see footage of Jim'll Fix It, I can now see that he behaves coldly to the children, and he appears to be very detached from them. Although, he was such a psychopath, he was probably cold and detached from every person he met (apart from his mother) 🤮
@@deniseelsworth7816 I never noticed any tension in his hands. That's interesting. I wonder if that's why he always had a cigar in his hand, and all the jewellery, maybe to try and distract viewers' attention. I read a comment on another channel that said Savile was a skilled hypnotist. His cadence, repeated phrases, mannerisms, and how he would squeeze people's shoulders and wrists (which reduces blood flow) which makes the person less tuned in to their surroundings, and instead focus on him. He was so weird, it wouldn't surprise me if it was true.
@@deniseelsworth7816 That's actually a good way to describe him. I think he liked to keep people on the backfoot. He probably enjoyed confusing people. He himself admitted he was 'tricky'. At least he can't hurt any more innocent people.
Rolf Harris vibe! Thanks for all your work Dr. Grande.
"Hiding in plain sight" is the phrase that sticks with me. My male friend who suffered sexual abuse, always said Saville was a paedophile, which I scoffed at. Sure, he was eccentric, an oddball - but it was Jimmy, famous DJ & TV presenter, raised so much for charity, the 'bonkers Uncle' type who was entertaining & harmless.
As a child I thought there was something really creepy about Saville. The people who knew about him and kept quiet ( including many at the British Broadcasting Corporation over the years) should hang their heads in shame. Unfortunately they have no sense of shame.
I live in Scarborough, the town that Saville lived in with his mother for most of his life. When I first moved here about 25 years ago, I was revolted and amazed that Saville’s behaviour was pretty much an open secret, locals would tut and roll their eyes when talking about how he and the local ice-cream baron would trawl the seafront arcades in his Rolls Royce picking up kids and give out ice-cream in return for sexual favours. I wish I was kidding.
At some point, people should question the company the Windsor House keeps!
Maybe thats the carrot Harry has dangling in his memior?
Granted Pepe le Pew could be a real “stinker”, but he should not be compared with Jimmy Savile.
Yeah, Pepe was created to lovingly mock European men, especially the French. In real life French men had no problem seducing American women through stimulating conversation.
So if you're a little jealous of that accent and that charm, you have to flip the reputation around, and depict them as stinky sex pests.
Although there do turn out to be monsters of every gender and nationality, but mostly men.
I think this was a very apt way of describing the way he wanted to be seen at worst by the public, here… Spot-on actually! 🤷♂️
Thank you! Pepe is adorable and Penelope his g/f is inked on my lower back. He started my interest in perfume. He was also hilarious.
Sadly I have never been able to find "Skunk Cabbage" eau de parfum.
@@DawnSuttonfabfour WONDERFUL!!
Society is to narcissists as flies are to…well… If something doesn't pass the smell test, shouldn't it be avoided? Dr. G, you're smart to meet people where they're at (Netflix 😆), turning known cases into teaching tools, speculating about what could be happening using your expertise. What a clever niche you've created for yourself. I hope people generalize what they learn from you and apply it to trials they encounter. You are a good teacher, Dr. G. 🍎
I’ve recently watched the Jimmy Savile documentary film on Netflix. It gave me chills from start to finish. Jimmy had an eccentric persona, yes, but he also had that other outward likable persona that the public were much more in tuned with. It’s so sad knowing that there were over a hundred or more individuals that Mr Savile himself took full advantage of. The sexual assault survivors never got the proper justice they’d been striving to get. I just hate the fact that Mr Savile managed to steer away from facing any legal consequences in his lifetime. Thank you for this analysis, Dr Grande. Very detailed and very informative.
I was waiting for you to do this case, Dr. G! Excellent analysis as always. This creep was an honest to God monster. I only wish these allegations had stuck during his lifetime.
He's so creepy. He didn't deserve the nice life he had.
@The Vintage Poet. Oh but this life doesn’t matter in the end. !!! His afterlife is forever not just 85 years !
God has prepared a place called hell for creeps such as he was
@@jesussaves7973 ummmm how do you know 😆 maybe he asked for forgiveness before he's died he was a Catholic😅
@@jesussaves7973 if I'm Not mistaken , it's in in the holy bible (Matthew) that Jesus had basically mentioned the only exception for a person to ever commit suicide ,(milestone around the neck..) is intended for the most evil people (such as savile) therefore sending themselves straight to hell, is the only way to ever avoid the inevitable wrath of The LORD.)
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@@t.rok13
But didn't god create Jimmy exactly as he was? With perfect foreknowledge. All his crimes were known by god even prior to his birth, right?
Listening to your analysis made me realise the parallels with Marilyn Manson - hiding in plain sight behind a dark persona.
I remember seeing him on one episode of " Top of the pops" and my instinct said something was wrong as there was a girl in her early teens next to him and he was clearly holding on to her and she didn't look remotely happy with the situation. From that moment on I never wanted to watch anything with him in it.. this was in rhe 1970s
Lets see: he was narcissistic, grandiose, he was a pathological liar, confident, dominant, optimistic, arrogant, charismatic, had a need for admiration, had little empathy, a sense of entitlement, was manipulative, had superficial charm, and failed to accept responsibility. Plus he had weird hair. Sound like anybody else we all know?
Joe Biden
What’s interesting to me is how many people see those characteristics, but they seem to be so far outnumbered by the masses who buy into it. It makes me truly sad for humanity how often these characters come along and manage to find such huge crowds of followers.
He was an evil entity!
Hillary
Well, there's this thing called the burden of proof...
You nailed it completely doc! I cant remember a time when Jimmy Savile wasnt around and remember thinking, as early as the 60s that he was the creepiest person alive. I would never have written to Jim'l'fix it for anything, no matter how badly I wanted it. I dont know if thats because of my ASD but, I always considered the creep factor overwhelmed ANYTHING he could possibly offer. I really dont know why more people didnt get that vibe!
Finally asked for this analysis last year.❤
uPoelo, wena, took a long tme neh ? lol!
@@PHlophe and what a great analysis it was
My brother and I met Jimmy Saville at a jewellers in Thirsk when we were school boys. He showed us his diamond encrusted watch and chains and said “one day lads, when you win the lottery, you’ll be able to get something like this”
Wow..I believe you..! But, if you think about it. Savile saying that to you, just kind of proves his deep rooted personal views on all children (in general)- as being invaluable useless humans, incapable of achieving any good, success in life , etc
having to depend on "winning the lottery" to ever be able to attain such useless, irrelevant needless things in life.
Instead of saying something more positive encouraging things to a child such as stay in school study hard, work hard, pray, save your money etc etc etc ..
@@t.rok13 interesting perspective thank you
That netflix doc was soooo sad and hard to watch. The pain of the victim who described her abuse was so strong even after so many years. I can't help but notice some similarities to the Woody Allen case. Thanks for analyzing this Dr. Grande. I always appreciate your down to earth POV.
Saville was responsible for many thousands of rapes of many kinds over many years, he never had an actual relationship with someone, his whole life was a set up to gain access to children and the helpless, people who could not protest. He was the artistic level of a trashy game show host and promoter. I can't see any similarities to Allen. I think closer to Joseph Smith, actually.
Woody Allen ? What ? How do you dare compare this proven monster to Woody Allen ? Don't you have any common sense ? Believe what you want about Allen but please, don't mention him in the same sentence with this creepy monster from hell.
@@Desi365 ummm did you watch the woody Allen documentary. Because if you did you'd know exactly what I'm talking about in regards to the sexual assault details. I'm not gonna let some stranger on UA-cam bully me into anything...
@@jonathanwobesky9507 I watched the documentary about that detailed the sexual assault. It is similar to the one described in the Saville documentary. He's an older well loved famous man that has been accused of pedophilia and is still being widely defended by ppl. If you don't see the similarity that's on you.
Like no one EVER has replied to one of my comments on UA-cam. But i mention woody Allen briefly and two ppl jump on me to defend him?? Wow, SMH. It's extremely important to note patterns in predators such as these. Anyone who doesn't see some of those patterns in both Saville and Allen is pretty much the problem.
'Hiding in plain site' - As said, his ability to create a creepy 'character', that people didn't believe was his 'real' character, was something he was incredibly skilled-at; truly terrifying
This is a really thoughtful and knowledgeable analysis and gives really helpful insight. Thanks. My only query is why would Charles asking for advice on image would be akin to Andrew giving advice on doing interviews or Will Smith on anger management, because, surely by the very fact that Savile managed to stay untouched until his death proves that he DID know how to manage his image well, and the fact he got found out once he died is almost like a joke on us, the public, when he can no longer be touched. As a Brit growing up with Savile on the telly every Saturday the Netflix documentary really does throw up some interesting thoughts, as people constantly ask how did he ever get away with it, and he must have had help, etc but my point is we were all complicit up until a point, it’s like we were under a spell like the emperor’s new clothes.
I think, though of course I may be wrong, that back then Charles was trying, very creditably, to understand what working class people were like, and Savile took advantage of his own working class background to suggest he could offer that. Savile also had that (irritating to me as a Lancastrian) 'professional Yorkshireman' front and played it to the full when it suited him. I think it can be difficult to spot a wrong 'un when they have a very different background to yourself. To me, as a working class person, Savile was an obvious creep and outlier and I loathed him. And as a kid, I knew when an adult was patronising and insincere, and Savile was all of that. But I can see it's not so easy to spot someone who is a fraud if you don't know what the genuine article is like.
@@alisonwilson9749 yes, can understand everything you point out, background definitely gives insight. All this makes one feel naive but as a southern child in a secluded environment most if not all of what you are so rightly pointed out would have gone right over my head.
I grew up with Jimmy Saville on my TV. He was everywhere. TV, radio, magazines, charity leaflets.
As a kid, I just thought he was a weird guy with bad hair. The Cigar always creeped me out. But other than that, I never really gave him much thought.
I loved the Jim'll fix it show; it was so heartwarming to see so many people have their dreams come true. A proper feelgood show.
His charity work was astounding., too.
There was nothing he wouldn't raise money for.
To the outside world, he was a national treasure. And that's just one of the things that's so terrifying about him
He fooled millions of people.
Obviously some people knew the real Jimmy Saville., and they were silenced and his abuse and sexual depravity was brushed under the rug.
Unforgivable.
I never knew about him until recently. He was undeniably scary strange. I find it difficult to understand why the people went crazy for him. I would run the opposite way.
I watched the documentary and I came to the conclusion that Savile only helped charities that would give him free access to his victims. That was the only reason why he helped those charities or any charities. They were simply access and at the same time they helped him hide his activities. Who is going to suspect such a generous, altruistic man of such horrors? Who would dare to ask about it without looking like a bad person trying to destroy such a good, selfless man. In the documentary, they talk about the interview Savile gave where he mentions his mafia-like behaviour with his employees. A journalist commented that the interview was to deflect from any more inquiries into his behaviour, to get the press off his back. His behaviour during interviews with women, in particular, show him 'misbehaving' which also contributes to the idea that he would not make 'those kinds of jokes' if he was actually misbehaving.
I remember seeing Savile on Top of the Pops when I was a teenager and wondering what an 'old man' was doing on a programme about music for teenagers. I didn't watch the show because of him. I found him way too creepy. I'm sure I was not the only one. I only spent a year in England at that time and so never heard about Savile again until he was mentioned on the news in whatever country I was in at the time. I was not surprised.
I think his frequent appearance on TV in shows like Jim'll fix it and top of the pops caused people to overlook their instincts. A bit the problem of 'I must be wrong because just look how everyone loves him, how popular he is, and all that good he has done for those children'.....
One comment about this video, Prince Charles asking Savile for advice about how to talk to 'the common man' and what to say in certain populous circumstances actually made sense, in a way. Savile could certainly 'read' people and play them and he was a working class man. The royals in the UK are mainly seen as unreal people who live in a fantasy world, disconnected from the rest of the population. Here was a tremendously popular man, doing all that good and he was working class. Perfect. I think he was perceived by Prince Charles as a sort of conduit between the royals and the population. Right or wrong, I have no interest, but I can see how that would make sense, at the time. So not really the same as Will Smith advice on anger management or Prince Andrew and interviews. Prince Charles was not asking for advice on how to set up useful charities or how to run a tv show, just how to communicate with a level of society disconnected from the royal sphere but connected to Savile. I think Princess Diane was 'followed around' by Savile. He wanted to get into the pictures, the news with the Princess because she was a royal and she visited a lot of vulnerable people in institutions. Nobody knows what the princess thought about Savile. The Queen didn't seem too keen since Thatcher had to ask several times for the knighthood....
YES!!! I've requested this multiple times! I can't believe he finally did it!. Thank you Dr. Grande!!!
I remember watching him on TV as a child and TBH he seemed a bit creepy to me. I was shocked when I heard all about this aspect of his life, and what was unbelievable was how it was covered up for so many years by those in authority so that this sicko never got a day in jail.