The moral is and always will be that if you cannot cope with a baby, you tell someone immediately and do not let it get to the stage where you are losing your temper with a baby. All parents struggle, it’s normal, it’s the reaction to that struggle that defines your character.
I think people just don't know what to look for when it comes to post-partum & things like that. The mom is going to say everything is fine, I'm just tired. That's not an excuse by any means, I just honestly wouldn't know what to look for.
@@BirdsOfGlass well, yeah, that’s why my comment was about the parent not letting it get to that point and telling someone immediately, even if it’s hard and you’re scared, because realistically it’s not possible to tell from the outside. The earlier they talk to someone the better the chances are that the outcome will be good.
The sad thing is, babies are easy. The older they get the harder they get. I have four and never once when they cried as babies did it bother me. Babies cry for a reason, all you have to do is rock them and tune it out. I know everyone is different but honestly, I don't understand why people do this to their little ones... 😕
Exactly. Really well put. I wish more people could understand this way of thinking BUT I guess that's the point: those who understand this perspective of thinking, tend to have better control to how they respond to things because they understand that *having thoughts of frustration is completely normal when in a stressful situation. It's how you respond to that stress through the way you decide how to act upon that stress. You have the choice how YOU respond or React to things around you.
To any new mom, I get it when you go w/o sleep and there is no one to help and you FEEL desperate, engage your neighbor, your OB/🤷♀️🤷♀️GYN, ANYONE, you know you’re on the edge, reach out to anyone, including 911 that you are feeling desperate. The feelings ARE overwhelming and I get it more than you can know, don’t stop reaching out, even your pediatrician can help. DON’T GO IT ALONE. Thankfully nothing awful happened in my case, a Sunday School member must’ve been able to see my raggedness -hubby wouldn’t help and with a 4 yr old up at 7, and the newborn who was up every hour, I felt like I was sleepwalking. She just showed up, told me to go ‘get some sleep’ and I went down for FOUR HOURS. ASK FOR HELP!
I don't care how frustrated, angry or upset a baby makes someone......their is no excuse to harm the baby or shake it. If someone is not capable of dealing with everything that comes from having a baby then they shouldn't of had the baby. I'm a Male and it's basic knowledge that Men are slightly more aggressive and far more physically violent then Women and I can tell you I have a very bad temper sometimes and I could break things or smash things but I could never harm another innocent human being let alone a defenceless baby. It's disgusting and shameful.
Thank God you got the help you needed! It can be really embarrassing to seek help. It’s almost like you think people will judge you and think you’re a bad mom. Your negative thoughts are your worst enemy! I’m so thankful I had a mom a I could pour my heart out to and she made sure I got the help I needed. If not for my mom, I’m not sure I would’ve opened up to anyone 😢
@subst4nce973 Please educate yourself on post-partum depression and psychosis. It's clear you aren't educated on it at all. I watched my sister-in-law go through this, and it was extremely sad and heart-breaking.
@@goose7574 watching the same video as you all im sure he got plenty of eduaction, what this internet stranger is saying is that no matter how troubled your mind is, there is no words given or definition to the evil you'll commit to once you take a life of defensive child. no matter post partum depression or any state of mind youre in, this is pure evil. so with that being said its kind of shameful of you to claim this stranger has no education on the subject when he was just stating a valid opinion on the subject. welp hope you all have a good day. peace.
My friend's daughter was born prematurely. The midwife said my friend shouldn't overfeed her daughter because her organs weren't fully developed yet. The baby just cried for over 2 months, but she was only supposed to feed small portions. When my friend was mentally and physically exhausted, she went to the children's hospital, where a doctor told her "Your daughter is hungry, feed her sensibly" and things went uphill from there. she felt ripped off by the midwife
@paulrobert4657 but everything in moderation...even drinking too much water as an adult can kill, think the midwife was right but the mum continued for too long
I was a preemie baby/3 months early, and my mom was advised the same thing by a doctor when she received me. I was too small to nurse from her, so they had to use tiny/mini bottles. I couldn't even drink her milk because my stomach wouldn't take it, baby formula was the only thing I could drink until food was introduced. I was given small amounts until it was ok to increase the formula. It isn't strange... 2months small dozes maybe but it really depends.
@@exbronco Tell me about it. I suffered for weeks with no sleep for the exact same reason! I finally got over it, - until - a friend of mine said he heard it was neither! There are now claims it was Candy Crush, so I haven't slept at all in the last 5 nights & see no relief on the horizon 😵💫
I had postpartum depression with my first baby, and if it wasn’t for my grandmother coming to my rescue several times, I don’t know what could have happened. I wasn’t diagnosed with it right away by my OB because the signs weren’t there until after a few days. A mom needs to have a support system in place before giving birth to ensure that her baby is safe, and so is she. The baby isn’t the only victim. Hormone imbalances are nothing to ignore after birth, and all moms should be tested for this imbalance after childbirth. I truly believe that if these steps were in place, there would be less early child abuse.
Absolutely! Less shame and stigma in talking openly about these things and more strong support systems in place would probably go a long way to near eradicating these tragedies. I’m sorry for what you went through, I’m glad you had your grandmother around!
I think sometimes too we don't realize it's ppd in the moment till it passes. I look back at my first pregnancy and I can say the contrast to my 2nd now that I think I was experiencing ppd. I was so overwhelmed, exhausted, emotional, and never felt I was doing good enough. But with my 2nd pregnancy I was introduced to perinatal therapy and assistance and it has done wonders for my mental health. I only wish I knew of the options before.
I sit at my desk all day with an airpod in, watching EWU, than sending each episode I watch to a coworker, who sits at her desk watching other episodes as well. Love the content, the information gathering, and the content delivery. Don’t know any that do it better.
Before I left hospital with my eldest, the nurses took my husband aside and told him to ensure that I was okay and not exhibiting signs of postpartum depression. They also spoke with me and told me it would be nothing to be ashamed of. At the time I was insulted but then soon realised that looking after a baby is harder than you’d believe & actually, the nurses advice helped me & my husband cope those first weeks when exhausted.
@@patienceobongodid you also forget those ended up serving in the world war probably most of them died. It's a shame that you weren't one of those kids. Your a waste of a soul.
@@patienceobongo20 is a bit exaggerated. But even if, many of those children also died due to malnutrition, illnesses and surely also because the parents left them alone or in the care of siblings that were too young to take care of them. They left 2 year olds to play outside by themselves in the care of a 4 or 5 year old. Not something that most parents would do nowadays.
The best parenting advice i was ever given was “a baby wont die from crying too hard, If you need a breather you need to take one”. Obviously keep your eye on the kid still, don’t leave them alone, but if theyre screaming in their crib, step aside, take a breath, relax. Its for the sake of both of you.
Agree with this totally. I was a single mother with my daughter, no family, living in a new city so didn't know anyone, so I had literally no one... no support system at all. There were a few times when I made sure my baby was in a safe position, and then had to take a breather. Just 5 minutes out of the room to calm my mind, have a drink... tea not alcohol, and just gather myself. It's so simple, but was a life saver for me. Like you said, leaving a baby to cry for 5 or 10 minutes won't harm them and gives you that vital space to compose yourself. I think some mums put too much pressure on themselves to be perfect, like not leaving their baby to cry, wanting to fix it instantly. And in some tragic cases the frustration and overwhelming mix of emotions overwhelms and in an instant they've done something that's irreversible. So preventable, step away and if possible reach out for help. Of course, some are just evil and nothing would stop them
she was on xanax, she was playing video games, she was already on a break and took more after shaking the baby. I would say if a baby is interrupting you by crying then you're probably neglecting it so don't abuse it on top of that. it's not just postpartum depression, foster parents get angry at kids for being hungry.
Thank you for adding the PSA about Postpartum depression. New mother's struggles are often dismissed and most mothers feel so alone during those first few months.
That isn't what they are saying. They are saying thank you for people about that is common in new mothers that isn't talked about and is usually dismissed or frowned apon.
@@subst4nce973 I agree but that's not what they're trying to say at all. They're saying that PPD is not something that should be ignored or brushed because of the risks it carries. And even though it's not an excuse, it is a reason and a factor for harming a baby.
@@subst4nce973 I mean actually that is an incorrect statement seems as though PPD can be a leading factor in why parents harm their children. Do you not know anything about PPD?
@@subst4nce973Entirely false. PPD is the ONLY thing that makes such an act semi-understandable. The mind is flooded with hormones and thoughts and if not put into check, will overwhelm the woman. She will take her own life, or she will lash out.
When the guy in the last case flat out says “they should never have let me out!”, you know that your judicial system is flawed and very ineffective! R.I.P. Dylan, Sydney and Jill.
Well, for this guy yeah it was flawed, but if you were given the files of a hundred “offenders” up for parole, and you can’t legally or logistically lock everyone who committed any crime up for life, could you predict perfectly who will re-offend and who won’t? I sure couldn’t and I don’t believe you could either….is that a flaw?
Yeah I live in Australia ... our laws for murderers and rapists and anything else is pitiful.... The parole board should take some responsibility for letting him out all the time, that's why I like American laws ...he'd be in for life or death sentence
When your crime is aggravated assault & rape against women, & you are a known repeat offender... please explain how being watched 24hrs a day & locked away with grown men, and not assaulting or raping them shows "good behaviour"
my mom had ppd, almost killed my brother and called my dad who came home immediatly despite his boss being a jerk about it. shes talked about how if he hadnt come home she doubts either of them would be here right now.
I had PND with my son. Luckily I'd already suffered from depression for years so knew what the signs were and got help straightway. Luckily, due to this is also saw it in one of my closest friends at the time. Her health visitor was as useful as a chocolate teapot. Me and her aunt were the ones who got her seen by a doctor and got her help. Luckily after this, when she had her second child she was immediately put back on her meds. More awareness needs to be raised and women need to know there is no shame in having those feelings and that there is support out there. Xxx
Absolutely, though I think EWU picked a bad case to be an illustrator of it. They seemed to suggest this one was related to PPD/PPP, but glossed over parts of the story they should've probed into further. We're finally learning that the constellation of symptoms previously believed to _only_ be the result of "Shaken Baby Syndrome" are not, in fact, unique to SBS. They can even be caused by birth trauma that doesn't lead to death for many weeks. However, because those symptoms are supposed to be "smoking gun" symptoms, police questioning often results in exactly the sort of answers we saw in this case. Usually starting somewhere around, "Well, he did bump his head on the changing table, and I wasn't really gentle putting him in the pack-n-play," moving toward, "I guess he could've hit his head harder than I thought," when the mother is told it was too severe to be an accident, then "Maybe I did shake him a little," after hearing these symptoms _only_ appear as the result of shaking, and ending up something like, "I must've shaken him pretty hard, twice," after being told a little shake couldn't have done this--but it was definitely, 100% caused by shaking.
Im pretty sure i had post partum psychosis. I used to genuinely believe someone was coming out our loft and harming our daughter at night. Any noise i would get up and sit in her room for hours and i would constantly go back and forth. I used to pace around constantly at night. Eventually i just snap out of it not sure if was because lock down happened and my partner was then home all the time or if it was went i got pregnant as they both happened around the same time
Every Australian knows the Jill Meagher case. She was so lovely and innocent and as a nation we were devastated at what happened to her. All these cases are so sad.
So many of the Melbourne public became invested in this case culminating in thousands of people coming together in a public march against violence. Watching the news footage of thousands of people marching still makes me emotional
it rocked the entire nation, he should never have been released. still they gave him a minimum of 35 - 40 years. What a disgrace, I feel gutted for her family and husband.
@@SerenityChaos1975 If they didn't connect this guy to her murder that poor husband would always be vilified. I think he's up for parole at 83, not guaranteed a release.
Our justice system in Australia I believe is the worst in the western world. So broken it’s crumbled beyond repair. More max security prisons need to be built. Our prisons are overflowing that’s why so many crims are walking free. No where to put them.
I developed post Partum Psychosis with both of my kids. I only got through it and got better because I had help and support from others around me. It's a shame we treat it as a taboo subject. If you're a mother and you feel like something is wrong or you're not coping well, DO NOT BE ASHAMED OR EMBARRASSED to ask for help! There is nothing wrong with needing help and if you don't feel like you're being listened to, keep trying until you find someone who will listen to you before it's too late...
I didn't realize I had it until it just...lifted one day when my daughter was about two. It was such a relief because those first two years were miserable. I was finally in a better mental state to deal with toddler power struggles in a more productive way.
I’m not attacking you. Just an honest question. Since you had post partum psychosis the first time, did you and your husband consider not having a 2 child?
My cousin had ppd really bad. I think she’s honestly still dealing with it. But they almost took her kids because we wanted to get her help. I know it’s not everywhere… but making these mothers jump through hoops after already taking a huge jump to check themselves in somewhere.. we need a better system for them. They should be able to see and talk to their babies if they want to and we need to give them help instead of feeling like they are being punished for being sick
@@ProudPatriotOfNMhi!! this is a totally valid question. so as someone who has had Post Partum Anxiety, i can’t tell you exactly what their experience was, but i agree with OP about the fact that a lot of times you dont know you have it until you just dont! i used to have graphic, gory, terrible visions of people dropping my son or him falling off high places, or of my plane crashing and the exact way id save him and die during, as far as the process of him waiting for his dad to get to him and him wondering why i left him. it is absolutely miserable but as new moms a lot of times we convince ourselves we just aren’t strong enough or that we need to be better moms. it wasn’t until after i came out of the deep of it that i realized what it really was. as far as having more kids, its possible that 1) the mom was still in the trenches and didn’t realize it wasn’t just what being a mom is like, or 2) she was able to acknowledge the reality and had a support system who could be there for her through it + the awareness to see the signs herself and felt that she could handle it again. obviously i cant tell you that commenters exact thoughts, but thats just how it seems from my POV! 🫶🏼🫶🏼
I'm thankful my postpartum depression wasn't as bad as this. I love my son so much, but my depression made me think I was an awful mom. I felt like I wasn't doing enough for my son. But never once did I get frustrated with him or think of harming him in any way. I felt like a failure of a mother. I was living with my parents at the time while my fiance was trying to get us into an apartment, so I was very thankful for the help. My heart goes out to all those mothers that are struggling or have struggled in the past. We see you, and you are doing the best you can. Each day gets a little easier, but please reach out to help if you are feeling frustrated. Talk to family, friends, anyone that can give you that moment of peace to recollect yourself. It's ok to put the baby in the crib and walk away for a few minutes to calm down. It's ok. You are doing great!
I was living in Melbourne when this happened to Jill. It shocked the whole community and brought out protesters onto the streets. He's a real monster and should have never been paroled in the first place. The justice system is fuck up in Australia and parole boards always let these psychopaths out early. They should never be free. Use him for medical research.
The first story is so heart breaking... my older sister was murdered by her 16 yr old babysitter at 18 months.. I am a mother of a 3 yr old and it's a challenge, but I can't imagine what goes through a person's head when doing something do horrible 😓
@@sujathan4116 nobody can get away with murder? What about all the cases where they haven't caught the killer? Even serial killers can get away with it
I had PPD with my first son. He was colicky and didn't sleep at night. I was exhausted and mentally stressed. I remember placing him in the bassinet a little more rough than I should have. He gave a startled reaction than bawled. Immediately I was hit with guilt and picked him up and just apologized repeatedly. My mom, now ex husband and other family members helped me through that time. It's ok to feel the way we do but it's important to reach out to anyone who can help. Please ask for help it's not your fault but it's not your babies fault either. I was mentally, emotionally and verbally abused growing up and I ended that cycle. It is possible to change the pattern but nothing comes without very hard work and determination. RIP to all the babies who didn't make it!!
"It's nobodies fault." Said the abuser to the victim, the murderer to the dead. Seriously though, acknowledging these inherent traits within yourself before acting upon them, is indeed the best and healthy way. Waving away personal responsibility over these traits, is just not going to cut it. Babies deserve more care and attention than what that feminist empowerment agenda is even remotely worth. And being completely honest; not every person is capable of being a parent, let alone "good".
@@MrYelly it's sad the amount of babies that suffer because the mother either can't or won't reach out for help. First though they have to admit that something is wrong and unfortunately for many that comes too late.
@@berlyngrey9242 Diminishing fault diminishes personal responsibility, which leads to increased negligence. Guilt is never a pleasant experience, yet sometimes it serves a function.
Thanks for covering the Jill Meagher case in Melbourne. It was a huge deal in Australia, and I'm glad the cops didn't fixate on her husband for too long. Bayley is an absolute monster. He had served jail for sexual assault more than once, in addition to his other violent crimes. The only good thing to arise from the case is that parole is dished out much more carefully in the State of Victoria.
I think you have that wrong they murders get bail even if they have they have criminal charges for other thing , basically our justice system is telling them that it’s ok to kill you will only get a couple of years Victoria’s justice system is a joke . Then when the go to court the do good judges let them off . And so it continues we have more crime in Melbourne now than we did 20 years ago. Jill’s death could have been prevented if the judge did his job but no he gave that evil sob bail even though he had been on bail for rape at the time .
Post Partum Depression and lack of sleep can very much make a very loving, caring, and patient mother have an instantaneous violent episode. Other countries provide after birth care for mothers for several months because it is so taxing and hard on us. But the USA is just like, "Welp, there ya go. Good luck." Birth takes a toll on our bodies and our minds. We don't get enough support after giving birth. 2 days in the hospital is nothing, and we are often woken up every 45 mins for some random testing instead of just letting us get the sleep we need. Nobody wants to help after the birth, but they are more than willing to lock us up when we can't get the help or support we need.
@@Anna-br9jt PPD doesn't occur until AFTER having the baby. It has nothing to do with emotional maturity and everything to do with changing hormones and whirlwind of biological after-fects which occur in the body during and after pregnancy. Your lack of understanding only highlights the way in which some people would rather place blame on the result of the problem rather than the issue itself. Sad. Maybe you shouldn't make comments if you aren't mature or informed enough to understand what you're talking about.
Truer words have never been spoken. I was frustrated and confused as to why nurses kept coming into my room every 10 minutes for those two days. Only when they took my baby out of the room to do the carseat test did they let me sleep for about four hours without interruption. The UK gives new mothers a caregiver that checks up on them and the child until that child reaches 5 years old. Imagine how many less problems the US would have if we had something as simple as this.
@@Anna-br9jt This is how newborns work: Baby feeds for an hour and a half then mom gets to take a 10-30 minute nap with Baby before Baby wakes up again screaming for more breastmilk. Baby feeds for another hour and a half then mom takes a 10-30 minute nap with Baby until Baby wakes up screaming for more breastmilk or a diaper change. Baby feeds for another hour and a half then mom takes a 10-30 minute nap with Baby until Baby wakes up screaming for more breastmilk or a diaper change. Baby feeds for another hour and a half then mom takes a 10-30 minute nap with Baby until Baby wakes up screaming for more breastmilk or a diaper change. Baby feeds for another hour and a half then mom takes a 10-30 minute nap with Baby until Baby wakes up screaming for more breastmilk or a diaper change. Baby feeds for another hour and a half then mom takes a 10-30 minute nap with Baby until Baby wakes up screaming for more breastmilk or a diaper change. This occurs every minute of every day for four straight months. What other sleep deprecation boot camp have you gone to that is as intense as taking care of a newborn? I'd like to see your Certificate of Completion and how maturely you handled it.
I myself had and still have postpartum depression, my child is in good hands and care . It was extremely bad. I couldn’t eat, if I did eat I would either puke or If I could keep it down I would have diarrhoea couldn’t sleep, high heart rate and sweats, didn’t want to hang out with no one , had no desire to do anything that I liked …This guy nailed it right on the money with the symptoms. I tried very hard to raise My child, she was about 18 months when I had to make that hard decision to send her away and be safe. The hardest , and I mean the hardest thing to do is to admit you need help . It was very hard I cried for months afterwards, I felt like a total let down , worthless . Better off dead, I tried twice to hang my self while she was in my care. That was 4 years ago . She’s now 5 years old , and the life her grandmother and father are giving her , is more then I could ever imagen someone would do to make the situation on ur mental health and safety of both is just amazing and a blessing . I miss my child , there is not a moment or a day that goes by that I don’t think of her and I honestly get teary eyed and still at times I feel like a failure. I have been on Zoloft 150 for 4 years and I am also on Ativan , because the panic attacks are still very much there . I go see my daughter as often as I can . And I’m very great full for how my daughters life is turning out for her . I also am someone who got abused (from the earliest age of 6 that I can remember, till I was 16, when he finally passed. Daily basis ) and that really honestly plays a part in postpartum depression. Ptsd , anxiety, depression, any mental health issue really..Even with pills and counselor, psychiatrist and random things to attend where women have the same problem .. but in the end . It’s still very much there, it still very much rips my heart out .If u feel it..ask for help ! That doesn’t make anyone a bad mother . It’s not a fun thing to endure, and I was told to not have another kid because it could possibly get worse .. the child’s life and ur life is worth seeking that help .. you must bear down and tell the hurtful and harmful things u r thinking . The truth is better then taking a life . And you don’t know if u r gonna Wind up in those like her . The dark thoughts are horrible. And it’s not worth pushing urself to that point of try harder , just try harder . U end up emotionally physically and mentally drained and with sleep deprivation on top . It’s the perfect recipe for disaster.. don’t be afraid to ask for help , for someone to take on ur child. If u make that effort to see the child and be around as often as You can , and make sure u tell them u love them every single time u see them . Cuz in the end that’s still ur child , you and I shall always be available when you can finally have that healthy thinking you will thank yourself for seeking that help.. I’m not the same person I once was, postpartum depression, Post traumatic stress disorder, anxiety disorder and sever anger issues have definitely changed me .. and there was no way I was gonna live a lie and risk everything or be labeled and jailed for a mistake . I’d rather be labeled as a woman who recognized what was wrong , and took action for the well being of my child and my self .. it doesn’t matter if ur family don’t understand. And do not and I mean do not push yourself because that’s what ur parents did so You should be able to do it .. no that’s putting off a serious issue . And I don’t care what any dr says . That postpartum depression don’t go away , once u got it u have it for life . I’m going on year 5 with meds and it’s still there , not fully gone , and it never will . Maternal depression.. that’s what it should be called after two years of having postpartum depression. It’s not a funny thing , and it is worse then suicide, depression. Theres two who feed off each other . baby’s and tots pick up on ur mental break downs . And that can cause them to be even more fussy then normal . And there’s no way I was letting her see her mothers mental health step in the way of life . Wasn’t happening . If you need help today! Don’t wait ! Please go get it ! As much as u don’t want to let go, sometimes that’s the healthiest thing for everyone . Doesn’t mean ur not gonna be around , just means ur fixing urself . And u recognized what’s up ! And that u should be proud of , but I’m gonna admit it’s hard to accept.
Good for you not being selfish and keeping her knowing her father could give her more! My father raised me from 6 alone... he's not here anymore but I'm super close to my mom even tho she didn't have a hand in raising me persay.. I saw her on weekends and she came to my school stuff but he was my care giver! I'm so grateful my mom allowed my father to take me and raise me... I love and respect her and have told her how grateful I am that she wasn't selfish and kept me just to.. your daughter will feel the same way one day if not already... my nephew is being raised by his father and grandparents cuz my sister has some mental health issues.. I believe it's postpartum but they say no cuz my nephew's 3.. I feel it's been untreated so it's lingering.. her meds haven't helped a bit! She's gained way to much weight from the meds.. I pray all the time she will tell them her treatment plan isn't working... I believe some anti depressants and some anxiety Meds would do her justice!!! Keep on pushing!!!!! Look for the sunshine after the rain!
You’re a great mother. A good mother ALWAYS puts their baby first, and that’s exactly what you did, even though it hurt you beyond measure. Never forget that. When your daughter is old enough to understand, you can explain it to her and how much you love her: enough to let her go. It was a huge and brave sacrifice. Thank goodness for those who stepped in. It’s really a happy ending. Your poor mental health is no different to poor physical health. There is no judgement. Good luck to you going forward. You have my respect, and admiration x
I think this is so terrifying because we all recognise those terrible moments, those surges of blind aggression towards someone (adult or child) who is driving you to the limit of your sanity... and we are all scared of what we might do in a fit of rage. Thankfully, most of us stop short of hurting our children or anyone else, no matter how angry you are. But the strength lies in recognising when you might be a danger to your child and to remove yourself from the situation. It is a very hard and scary thing 😢
Ummmmmmm, I think those people that have this type of unbridled aggression need to seek help for themselves or, hopefully, the loved ones in their lives will recognize that they need professional help and support. No offence, but if you recognize this rage in yourself, please talk to a professional or a loved one who will support you and get you help. Especially if you have a child- the bravest thing that you could do, would be to seek out help now.
@@lillukey4633 I am 48 years old and my children are teenagers now :) they're all alive and well :) I did indeed get help and my anti-anxiety medication helps me a lot. But when the children were little, I had moments of blind rage when I was afraid of what might happen. Fortunately I knew to step away at those moments and they passed. I do think many parents experience this, I know many I have spoken to do/did. That doesn't mean we would actually hurt our children! The step for feeling rage to action is one most of us don't cross. But still, I have heard people admit their biggest fear is losing control one day. I remember someone telling me she threw a bottle of olive oil (I think) against the wall, where it shattered, and all she could think was: I could have thrown the baby like that. But she didn't. That is the difference. She threw a bottle instead and never ever hurt the baby. Anyway, what I'm trying to say is we all have moments of weakness and we all sometimes worry about what we are capable of. Well, maybe not all, and I'm happy for those who don't that you don't have to experience dark moments like that. But that's all they are, moments that pass. 💚
@@lillukey4633 Yeah they should seek some form of help and in _most_ cases they do, however even the small percentage that don't is still a plethora. Personally any of my anger or rage has always been taking out..... "Healthily". Not really, but healthier than taking it out of anyone or anything around (I tend to shut myself off and go walk off into the woods for a little bit, punched plenty a tree when I was younger, broken hands to attest to that. Like I said, not REALLY healthily as I was a younger lad but more-so as I've gotten older -however conversation, therapy, etc has never been that productive for me- )
@@lillukey4633 can't tell me you've never been mad, pissex off. Have you finished puberty yet. Testosterone is powerful. Plus it's just our instincts when adrenaline kicks in.
I do not recognise any terrible moments of blind aggression towards children. Nor do the people I associate with. Perhaps you best seek help for that aggression that is so normalized to you.
A few months after I had my daughter, I told my family I was going to the doctor for antidepressants. My grandmother questioned it due to me breast feeding. I told them all, “this isn’t a choice. This is a must”. I never understood how someone could shake their baby like that….until one very sleep deprived, constant crying night….I understood completely how that could happen and it terrified me.
This. I, too, had never understood how someone could do it, either…….until my second was born and was EXTREMELY colicky and inconsolable for 90% of the day EVERY day. On top of the colic, I was diagnosed with postpartum depression at my eight week check up. I’m grateful I had family to step in and help on the days where it seemed too much for me (my spouse worked two full time jobs).
Yep. I had a therapist tell me once that any new mother who claims to never have had those intrusive thoughts isn't telling the truth. The difference between PPD and normal motherhood is the frequency and intensity. I also understood how moms forget their babies in a car too - you just don't understand that level of sleep deprevation until you're a new mom, working full time and trying to breast feed. Never feel bad for asking for help. You can't take care of anyone until you care for yourself.
I was a young parent I was only 15 years old when I had my daughter and my grandfather would tell me all the time when I lived with him if you feel you're getting overwhelmed or frustrated come and get me. I think he was always afraid of that one or two seconds of spazzing out and shaking a child and the baby dying .
Please tell me that the father wasn't older than 17-18 when you conceived the baby. And also I know teen pregnancy is taboo to many people so congrats on managing raising a baby in such a weird stage of your life, I imagine it must have been tough
Excellent as always! That first case got me, the fear of snapping caused my decision of not having children and although it's so much better now, I've been working on this anger management problem my whole life. It's incredible, how much higher the tendency to slap a child in a high stress scenario becomes, if you've experienced it as a kid yourself; hence the name "cycle of abuse".
Glad to hear you chose not to have children when you realized you wouldn’t have been able to handle it. So many mentally ill people carelessly get pregnant, and usually with people who are just as sick or degenerate.
@Dani Kouakou You've described this REALLY well, I didn't trust myself with kids, when I noticed, that constant baby cries and/or toddler tantrums in public transportion drove me nuts repeatedly. I wanted to hit the parents/adults, who didn't do anything to console their own kids and expected everybody else present to "just get over it" ... that's when I started to realize, that I would be totally overwhelmed, if these were my own kids and I couldn't take a break from them; it's an ugly feeling ... however I think I made the right decision. That's why I wrote my comment, bc I feel, that's a very important discussion to have for the sake of the children!
@@bruggeman672 Next time just don't reply to a rightfully deleted comment, please, bc basically you brought her back here by addressing her; that's the best "don't feed the troll" tip on the internet. Thank you so much for defending me in your other comments!
The case of Sydney happened close to where I live and was a big story locally, coming from a small and quiet town. Saying he broke down and confessed feels too humanizing. Quake was a part of the local searches for her and “broke down” and confessed when the search crew came close to her burial site (on his family property I believe) and knew the jig was up, but even then he kept up some of the charades. His original story was that he accidentally ran her over and killed her, panicked and buried her. Came out that he definitely backed over her after she had already been run over once, and he had SA’d her whether alive or not. He is definitely missing something upstairs, but that doesn’t discount at all what he did to that poor chick.
@@mary._.yamborghini I feel like you have no clue what you’re talking about. He was unhinged, the girl isn’t to blame at all. I don’t think she wanted anything to do with him, he was obsessed with her. Even if somehow this war her fault and she was a bully, bullies don’t deserve to be rped and murdered either.
@@StylishCatfish i dont think Maryam wasnt blaming Sydney in any way(noone would), she just described a possible way that led to this cruel end. and i too believe that the key is somewhere looong way back in their history, maybe really at high school... maybe "bullied" isnt even the right word, maybe he had a crush on her in teenage days, she denied... in his mind.. he never forgot that... but their long history, the unfriending on facebook shortly before, and than such a cruel end... too much coincidence for me to believe it was a "unlucky" sequence of events with no back story
I got post-partum depression after my first son. I've told my main obgyn, told a second obgyn, and a therapist but got little help. Even after almost ending my life, still got no help. Now I'm just living with daily.
How long has it been? I didn't realize I had PPD until it just lifted after two years. I found escaping into a good story/book helped. Being able to enter another world for a little while (even with all the interruptions) and fantasize about being there really helped to alleviate the pressure of the real world. If only for a little bit.
We have good postpartum care here in MA. But two women were in fully time 8 hour a day programs for PPD and she still killed all her kids 😢 her husband never left her alone because of it and he did for 15 mins to get take out since she don’t cook anymore and he had the 3 littles. She took that 15 mins to murder the kids horrficly. Another one almost killed the kids by driving into a brick wall by did stop thank God. Her by involved husband , like the first that didn’t even work anymore to deal with her, he called and got to them. Now she isn’t even allow with them. But even with help. Sometimes they’re just too crazy and need to be removed from the home
Took me 18 years to find a Dr to help. In CA. I have children, never did I want to hurt THEM.. just me. I finally have a doctor that believes me. It's so hard going from doctor to doctor, getting the courage to tell someone that basic tasks make you wanna choose death in a non exaggerated way, just to be told "step away and breathe".. makes you wanna slap the person who gave them a license. But it's been 2 years medicated and I've never.. ever.. been happier. We got this! One day at a time, and remember, all accomplishments ARE accomplishments.. no matter how small. Much love💜🖤
PPD is really really intense. Having struggled here and there with depression my whole life, I felt I could handle it. But I was wrong. I wrote a message to my doctor saying I was having thoughts of harming my baby because he wasn’t sleeping and always screaming and crying, and I wasn’t sleeping more than 2 hours here and there. Thankfully we got something worked out with my family having him some of the time so that I could sleep. It was so hard to admit how I was feeling, because I didn’t want them to take my baby away from me. I loved him (still do) so somuch, but my thoughts were scaring me. I didn’t know where they came from and I didn’t want to have them. I didn’t know what to do. So I contacted my doctor. It was a rough time those first 3 months. They say put the baby down and leave the room or house to have a break from incessant screaming and crying, but It was going on for 4 hours. After about 10 minutes I would feel guilty and I would go to him.
It's hard to overstate just how intensely the Jill Meagher case shocked and horrified the nation, especially in Melbourne where it happened. I remember those 6 days she was missing seeming to stretch forever. The government made serious changes to the law and the policies around who gets parole and what conditions they are under.
I was in Jail with the first girl back when I was just 18 (I’m 33 now) and she was segregated because the girls wanted to kill her. She was in a tiny cell on my pod that she never left. The other women would taunt her every single day banging on her cell at all hours and screaming how they’d kill her. I could never listen to the story of what she did it was just so horrible but I guarantee you she wishes she got death instead of what she did because her existence is rightfully miserable.
See that's a lot different from the baby killers I was locked up with. I wasn't in prison with them just county jail they weren't sentenced yet so it could have been different for them once they got to prison
Well, it's been 25 yrs and my children are adults now. I was 18 when I git pregnant the 1st time. I was fresh out of foster care, had been a victim of abuse when I was a child, got pregnant after I got released from the system and the 'father' disappeared. I gave birth to a girl. My baby had colic for about 4 months. I thought I would lose my mind. I cried everytime she cried. I was exhausted, frustrated, irritated....and I did my very best. Sometimes, I put her in her bouncer seat and put it on top of the dryer while it was on, it helped. She slept in a bassinet beside me, and she was constantly fidgeting, never sleeping, always whining and it drove me nuts, and I had no support whatsoever. Sometimes, I rocked her bassinet pretty hard, sometimes I screamed, sometimes I plopped her down on the couch pretty hard, sometimes I left her crying in a play pen and turned music up loud....sometimes I shook her. It wasn't a violent shake because I knew it could hurt her, but enough to be wrong. I was young, inexperienced, unhealed from my own traumas, a brand new clueless single mother, and not a Soul to lean on for help in any capacity. My daughter survived, I survived, but not without pain about some things I wish I'd done differently. We can only really only function at the capacity of our own consciousness at any given time though, and I certainly never intended harm. The moral of my story is, if you know a single parent, live next to one, work with one, are friends with one.....please don't underestimate your capacity to help. They need someone to care, be unconditional in their words, offer support and help them, be like family they might not have otherwise. Even bringing a meal over can make such a difference and impact. Offer a hand and heart, and please understand how very challenging it is for them. Even filling up their gas tank once a month can bring profound relief. Anyway, this is a tragic story all the way around, so don't judge what you don't know and focus on knowing this happens more frequently than it should. 🕉
This 🙌 needs to be said more. If you’ve never experienced abuse, never dealt with the aftermath, never tried to look after a baby who cries continuously while dealing with hormones and possible depression and sleep deprivation, you’ll never know how close you can get to that edge.
I truely don't understand how having a child was a good idea with your age and past experiences (traumas), during a failing and unstable relationship. You got pregnant almost directly after you were released from foster care? Or were you released from foster care because you got pregnant? And that is why most people don't reach out or help. You cannot help a person who is this hellbend on making the most awful personal decisions in life. Cannot help a person away from the abyss they are so desperate to throw themselves in. And if just for yourself, all fine and dandy, but you are not the only victim of your awful choices, and that I cannot forgive, or ignore.
@@MrYelly stay in your lane mr. yellow.....how dare you judge those mothers who are brave enough to speak their truth - maybe there was no access to abortion, or mental health supports.....or any number of other circumstances. Motherhood is fucking hard at the best of times and sanity threatening at the worst. Keep your sanctimonious self-righteous comments to yourself
@@kimdavidson4522 It is simply the truth. Too often, parenthood is considered a right, as a means to receive more money, when it is a priviledge and heavy responsibility. And the kids that grow up without a father, dont get that right to speak that truth? Keep your hypocracy to yourself, Kim.
I don’t feel angry at the mother, more than anything I feel bad for her, everyone has been there at least once. I’ve been diagnosed with PPD myself. More than once I’ve handed my daughter (she’s four months) to my partner because her crying was stressing me out and getting to me so much that I’m fearful I will hurt her if my partner doesn’t take her. I only hope she got counselling in prison.
I do feel empathetic towards Alexandra. Having been through post partum depression. I had other symptoms like her.. like not liking others touching the baby and scared that baby would turn cold if I even slept. I would think of doing extremes at my breaking points. But luckily to this day, didn’t even laid hands on my son. He is 3 now.
I do too though I think justice was served with her sentence. It's depressing to think that Tobias's death could have been prevented if his mother had or was able to get the help she needed.
the fact that the last guy even has a minimum sentence and isn't just in there for the rest of his miserable life is insane. How can someone spend a lifetime attacking women and continuously get out and do it again. seriously need to look at the justice system to figure something out, this is complete insanity.
My moms friend was suffering from postpartum depression a few months back and she ended up posting a suicide note on Facebook for us all to see, and shot herself in the head. Her mom and several other people after seeing the FB post, rushed over to her house but unfortunately it was too late and they found her in her bedroom. I’ll never forget that feeling in my stomach when I first read it. It’s shocking and almost hard to believe and I was holding out so much hope her mom would reach her in time smfh. That postpartum depression is not a joke, and if you feel yourself suffering from it please get help. Even my mom has told me of all the uncharacteristic, and intrusive thoughts that can come with it. I will never have a child for this reason. I already suffer from depression as is 💀Couldn’t imagine my mental state after having a baby. Wouldn’t be good for either one of us tbh.
It’s true. We have to realize it’s not all of our destiny to have kids. Some people are great people, but terrible parents. Our societies concepts are skewed and we pay the price.
I had two children in under 2 years! I was fine after baby 1 but after my second child arrived, something was off! I cried for no reason, I felt tied down to them and almost hated having to care for them. I KNEW something was wrong and thank GOD my mom noticed! She forced me to go to my doctor. I got on medication and in therapy immediately! It changed my life!! A few months later, I was BACK to my normal self and loving my boys like they needed to be loved. It makes me sad to even think back on those feelings I had at that time bc I love them more than life!! Thank God I got the help I needed.
I know Sydney and Quake personally. Such a crime so close to home took our small town by storm. Seeing someone covering it in such detail on UA-cam is even more surreal. RIP Sydney!
My health teacher in high school told us "Remember, there's nothing wrong with taking a few minutes to walk away and breathe. The baby will still be there when you calm down." I think about that every time a shaken baby case comes up.
I was so lucky when I had my daughter. She screamed for hours without any reason. (Not hungry, clean nappy and being hugged) nothing stopped her from screaming. I would walk the floor for hours with her. My parents were great dad would come home from work and take her to let me have a cup of tea or just to breathe without her screaming in my ear. Took till she was 2 to find out the reason she screamed was that she had glue ear so was in pain. So hard to be a mum that can't help her kid and without their support i don't know how I would have git through it. If you know someone with a baby be there for them. A text from a friend offering a cuppa and chat can mean the world to someone who is struggling
Same thing happened with me as a child apparently. All of my family would tell me as I got older that all I did as an infant was cry, and it would drive everyone nuts. Come to find out I had a bad case of acid reflux and that’s why I was constantly screaming and crying. Glad my parents were aware enough to know when to step away and calm themselves down.
As a baby, I wouldn’t stop crying once and my mom went to emergency, and in the waiting room it turned out two of my toes were crossed and when she fixed it I stopped crying. She awkwardly got up and left the waiting room after lol
I have 4 kids. My youngest is only 4 months old. Whenever I'm home alone with a baby and I'm frustrated with them, I put them in a crib or bassinet and go into a different room to calm down for a few minutes. Maybe drink water, wash my face, have a quick snack, something to change my mood, BEFORE i pick up the baby again. Do NOT keep holding your baby if you're frustrated with them. Put them somewhere safe and go somewhere else to calm yourself down!!!
I raised my daughter myself for a good while alone as her mother wasn't coming home. No one told me about baby crying fits!!! Where they cry constantly for no reason. I freaked out a couple times being a guy and all but never never shook her. Jesus this hits close to home as years later her half sister would be in the same situation as this little baby. Sad truth of this cold world.
And then she comes up with some BS "fell off the couch" story. Anybody with any understanding knows kids at that age are still made of rubber... a simple couch fall isn't gonna do it. Or even come remotely close. Easy red flag.
It's horrifying how many scum bag criminals get out to commit more crime, again and again. The justice system needs a huge overhaul. Even his own mother was appalled by his constant behaviour for years, not understanding why he kept being released.
It is okay to make sure your baby is in a swing or in a safe spot, and when you are that upset to walk away and take a couple mins. Breath down from 10 and calm your nerves. If still mad at a baby (had to imagine, but its mostly* stressed bc of baby) call someone to watch the baby. Please don't pick the baby up if feeling this type of way
She wasn't JUST mad or frustrated though. She suffered from PPD or likely even PPS. People with these conditions lose proper reasoning skills and the ability to reliably keep their child safe. This is why parents need a support system and for people to check in on them regularly and reliably.
@@_.-._.-. PPD and PPS are the result of a dramatic drop in hormones. You can simply get tested for this decrease in estrogen and progesterone. Please at least read a comment before you reply to it.
@@MrYelly not every case is detectable with blood tests, especially in people with preexisting diagnoses that they may have had to go off medications for while pregnant.
I think people misidentified her as a protective mother. She was NOT protective of Dylan, She was protecting her secret of being a child abuser... She didn't want people to get close to Dylan because somebody may spot that something was wrong with him.
I am a recovered addict and I’m very familiar with Xanax and you do completely black out sometimes but you can remember bits and pieces of what happened….and then other times you may remember absolutely nothing…most of the time you can get tiny pieces of the story enough to put together what you did
No disrespect intended, but don't you mean, "recovering" addict? Once an addict always an addict, you might be clean now but their is always the possibility of relapsing. Vanity and being too confident leads to making bad decisions.
Yeah Xanax is dangerous....A friend of mine woke up in a cell after taking a few bars and didn't remember anything and thought he was there for a warrant he had for not going to municipal court for a small offense so he said to a CO "when am I going to see the judge so I can get OR'ed or get bailed out" and he told me the CO laughed in his face and said "you ain't never getting out, you m*rdered your wife" his wife was driving while he was in the passenger seat and for God only knows why he began to repeatedly st*b her then sl*t her throat...he doesn't remember a thing and he has a violent criminal record but to other men in the streets, never to woman and kids..and I was friends with them both they were actually on the way to my home when it happened and I know you never truly know what goes on behind closed doors but from what I saw they treated each other good and we're happy....it still breaks my heart and will for the rest of my life
I gave birth to my first ever child on April , after her birth i wasnt really feeling depressed but a couple days later after i came home from the doctor's i wasnt feeling great, i was feeling depressed and i had thoughts of self harm to myself. Never once did i think about hurting my baby or doing something bad to her. Even when i do get tired and frustrated whenever she doesnt sleep. I handle her with love and care always. I love my daughter and i couldn't ever hurt her.
@@MonolithicCyanTsunamiwomen have done it too. We aren’t as blameless as stats used to say and now according to newer and more comprehensive studies it’s still only something like less than 20 percent of violent crime is done by women but that’s still a lot of ppl.
Being an Australian I remember the Jill Meagher case very well and how her disappearance scared the community of Melbourne. I have always been on the side of the death penalty when it comes to cases where there is absolutely no doubt that the person committed the crime and that the crime involves children or despicable acts of violence, abuse, torture and the perpetrator committing unspeakable acts against the victim and/or their body. Thanks for posting another great video, you never let me down when I need to watch a case or cases presented in a professional, respectful manner to all involved. Take care and stay safe from your Aussie friend Ann xoxo 🇦🇺🤠🏡👏💙
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Ikr! It makes me even more angry when I see someone who committed a vile crime and then cries when they get a long sentence or battered by someone in jail. I’m like, you got a feckin cheek after what you did!
I worked nights. My wife worked days. I would get home and then watch my son. While my wife worked. He started teething and would not just STFU. I got flustered with him, I put him in his crib and told him "I love you, but I'm about to snap...so daddy is gonna have a smoke, you sit here and cry" Never completely lost it. He's 25 now, and is a corrections officer.
My grandson was born at the time Jill was dying … I remember early in the morning after watching him be born Facebook posts looking for her .. then after it all came out realising my grandson came into the world as she left .. pretty surreal RIP Jill ❤
I have experienced PPD with my Best friend! That’s shit scared the living shit out me, They can’t help it. But she Felt only disdain and anger towards her Son! She didn’t want him and blamed him for all what was wrong! Luckily the nurses and me alongside close relatives, so she was immediately admitted to the psychiatric hospital! She was treated for about 2 weeks, her son came 2 days later! She needed a lot of support but she overcame it with the support from us and the Hospital. She is the best mom in the world, she still has trouble accepting that it wasn’t her fault!
It would be quite a study of all the hormones that flood our systems before birth and then they recede as abruptly. What that does in combination with sleeplessness? My husband was so scornful that I agreed with him, ‘What IS wrong with me?’ When that ‘s ridiculous. The point is that it IS. We don’t need to hear something that shames us more! I would practically sleepwalk, not remembering what I had done for hours at a time and anyone I turned to, made me a monster, ‘How can you feel THAT way???’
@@judywright4241 that’s why it’s so insanely important that it’s treated as fast as possible! By professionals. And when noticed That action is taken right away, and not something that is postponed by thinking it goes away by itself! Because the normal response is “How is it possible you feel that way, that’s insane”
I think us men need to be more open about our womens mental health after having or carrying children.. sometimes us men are afraid that something is wrong in the relationship that we can’t fix , we don’t realize that support and time away helps a mother so much we gotta start looking at the mental stability as a battery .. sometimes when the batteries die , you gotta recharge them and then get back in the game when they’re fully charged up
Speak for yourself. I am a father and have many friends that are the same. I don't think you know wtf you are talking about. Afraid to give space to a spouse that is stressed out? I think you should stay in your lane and don't speak on things that you are ignorant about. And never again encompass other men in your delusional opinions.
@@wmluna381 once again... speak for yourself lol. I'm sure my ten year old is better at comprehending than you are lol! Also... reading Comp isn't "for some people and not for others". We are taught that in middle school and your typical b.s assumption was pretty flaccid 😂! How much you want to bet that you're femenist brain will come back with an insult pertaining to me and the word flaccid lmao. Don't lie... as soon as you read that the first thought you had was... yeah I bet you have that problem huh 😂
Now imagine all of the poor babies who will be born into this world by moms who would have otherwise gotten abortions. I don’t want to get political here, but sadly I foresee a huge spike in tragic stories like this to come, now that Roe vs Wade will be overturned in many states. In a perfect world, everyone would have safe sex and accidental pregnancies wouldn’t occur… in a perfect world, women wouldn’t get raped and/or become victims of incest… and there wouldn’t be women who are victims of sex trafficking which can result in unwanted pregnancies. Don’t forget all of the women who get pregnant at extremely young ages, who haven’t even finished high school yet and clearly aren’t prepared for motherhood…or women with severe mental illness who become pregnant and are incapable of being responsible, loving mothers..So many different scenarios.. what about instances where you find out that your baby has seriously debilitating physical ailments and a woman does not want to bring a baby into this world only to suffer and live in pain. Sorry, these stories just evoke a lot of fear for the future of our country, with the recent ruling and all.
Department of Child Services are a JOKE!!!! They don't care at all!!! Most of the people are who cares , there are so few that DO CARE...SAD. IF Alexandra had her MOM to help her, this might NOT have happened... So SAD....
I've noticed shaken baby syndrome seems to prevalent among young, immature mothers. It's such a shame that your parents and society teach you your whole life to use protection or abstain because being a parent is hard and basically the end of your independent life but it never seems to land.
I'm glad these vids exist. He brings up post mortem depression and me and my wife are trying for a baby. We've had our tiffles and I'm relieved to know she may get PMD and I know what to do know
Postpartum depression may be caused by a lack of nutrients as the baby take priority when the woman is pregnant leaving sometimes dangerously low in certain nutrients, especially Omega 3 and the B vitamins.
It’s obvious Alexandra had postpartum depression - she clearly wanted to be the perfect mother and, when she found herself feeling inadequate, hid it from everyone. I had PPD. It’s brutal and the shame is overwhelming. I never wanted to hurt my babies but I felt like an absolute failure as a mother for feeling so depressed when I was supposed to be overjoyed. I went to therapy and got back on the meds I’d discontinued during pregnancy. Please PLEASE ask for help - PPD isn’t a statement about your qualities as a mother - it’s chemical. Talk to someone. You can’t get over it easily alone. Don’t torture yourself like that - so many of us have been through it and will gladly be supportive. You’re still a good mom and you still love your baby ❤
Having dark thoughts isn't a crime, tell someone. Do anything you can before it builds , it can be helped. You are not a monster for having thoughts, you can't always control what you think but you CAN control how you act
@@-._.-KRiS-._.- I think people today think that having thoughts like that makes them a bad person or a psychopath. You and no one should perform can control what your brain thinks that you can't control how you act. Just try to talk to someone
I suffered the Jefferson fracture. It literally shattered my c1. Of course that was when I was a baby and when I was 11 months old I then was burnt 100% of my body and left her dead for 3 Days in the hospital. That is where I met the lady that is my guardian angel today as I am 52. After years of neglecting surgeries and bones dislocating from the skin not growing fast enough because it was severely damaged, the heart and lungs didn't look good so I was given 18 years to live. They said I was in the shape of an 88-year-old man. I even have the onset of workers back, the broken down fingers, the heart and bone structure was crazy. When I was 9 the school finally asked if my hand hurt. LOL my hand? My whole entire body is burned! I've been said nobody can hurt me more than I already am hurting. That's why I stood in the middle of the circle of kids trying to beat me up so well
@illicitlitmisfit I was confused too until I realized he’s a $hitty troll who likes to joke about babies who get violently shaken to death. AKA a waste of time, breath, and flesh. Don’t even piss in his direction.
@@AliValentine143 I have been blessed by God and pain is only a sign that I am alive, it lets me know what I need God's help with and weakness is leaving my body. My pain is what brought me to God and my pain is my gain. It is my sorrows, weakness, my WILL and my unconditional love for God's creations that gives compassion to my enemies and my urges to teach Jesus's message. Give no acknowledgment to no man woman our book for none of these things can bring you the word of God but he, Himself. Pray to Him and seek enlightenment and understanding of all He created. Ask for the strength and power to create His will, to beckon His call, to bestow His WILL in your hands. I was given my man 18 years to live. God gave me everything that I asked for. Nobody to inflict pain on me, nobody to scare me, nobody to worry me, nobody to harm me or anybody I I love, the strength and power to wield HIS WILL, the Knowledge to keep me alive, the knowledge to keep those around me alive, the power to rebuke and to understand everything HE created so that I too so I can see clear. I asked HIM to let me feel my pain so that I can fix myself. I am 52 now. Many people has doubt my life experiences but I doubt there life experiences because there is no right without righteousness. May God bless you with my WILL
My older brother was colic. He basically cried every moment he was awake for the first year of his life. My mom's husband at the time was an alcoholic so she was essentially a single mom and only 22 at the time. She ended up calling CPS on herself because she was convinced she was going to snap and kill him. Instead of judgement, they assigned her a social worker who would come by a few days a week and take him out for a few hours so she could sleep and just have some quiet. Made an insane difference. There needs to be more support like this for new mothers.
I suffered from PPD twice with 2 of my 4 babies. I sought help and was put on medication and had help and support. Never once thought about harming my babies , although I did feel like harming myself. Please, ladies, if you have any thoughts of harming your baby or yourself after giving birth, Get help right away!! There is treatment and hope!
You can't just "cure" mental illness. For most its management with medication, therapy, and having a support system. But in most countries all of these cost hundreds if not thousands of dollars.
@@_.-._.-. Do people not get it?! What about finding a graph of use of chemical substances over time per country (all uses, food, prescription drugs etc) and try to see if you find any corelation with mental illness, or even illnesses in general... A simple "all diseases graph" search shows you that EVERYTHING skyrocketted in the 70's. Can't people connect these dots?! Did you even know that there is no scientific proof that anti-depressants work? Did you know that there is no scientific proof of depression? Oh yes, it exists, but we don't know why, physically speaking... Chemical substances are the reason why everyone's sicker. Check a graph, there is a clear inflection point that is impossible to deny. Something changed in the 70's, you cannot miss it. The last time I was sick, I was living at my parents' house. I left the house, never bought or used a medicine and I've never been sick, not even a single headache... I'm 36 years old now... 19 years without a single pill, 19 years without a single ailment... Connect the fµcking dots... Sick people don't need more chemicals, they need less. Don't you find that odd that no one who's born after 1970 is a hundred years old?! (
See the problem with the first story, when they say she was neglected and abused and that was the reason she killed her baby is bs. I was abused and neglected by my mother growing up, and I’m an amazing mum to my kids. You just have to have the mindset that you won’t let others suffer the way you did.
It takes a special kind of stupid for someone to incriminate themself over a prison phone call, considering they make it VERY clear that every single call is monitored and/or recorded.
I don't think stupidity comes into it. She was an extremely disturbed individual who carried out a heinous act on her own child. She seems conflicted between accepting responsibility and reducing her responsibility. Her sentence (50 years) seems excessive giving her own childhood experiences, without which I doubt she'd have ever carried out this crime.
The poor families of these horrific and grotuisic crimes. My heart and prayers go out to you all! I can't begin to imagine or want to imagine how horrible you all must feel. I got love for you all, God bless.
I had postpartum depression after my son's birth. I woke up and went to bed every day feeling like I was a horrible mother and my kids were better off without me. Slowly I came out of that way of thinking and when my son was about 3 months old, I didn't have anymore thoughts like I had previously. That was 10 years ago, and I still have never had those thoughts. Postpartum depression is a serious issue.
I recently began work at a hospital for people who have schizophrenia and personality disorders and realise there must be so many people living undiagnosed and untreated in the community, which is scary. The delusions and halucinations are so real to them and sometimes cause them to feel threatened or angry or afraid of things or people, causing them to react in unpredictable and sometimes violent ways. I bet many crimes are committed by people suffering from untreated mental health illness and could be avoided if they had got help sooner. Truly evil people are also common though and cannot be treated, they are also manipulative and are the most terrifying of all!
You've obviously never been to jail because 3/4 of the people in there are mentally ill with some kind of problem. Mental illness is the not talked about elephant in the room.
In complete fairness, in the case of UA-cam using the term ‘rape’ is more likely to make videos demonetised than the term ‘assault’. I’m sure there’s no intention on downplaying rape.
it actually kind of makes it worse that they choose to say "assault" if it's because of monetization because then that just means they care more about making money lol. there are content creators out there who say rape but bleep/silence the word. "assault" could mean anything. "he assaulted her." okay, sooooo he hit her? he strangled her? he assaulted her in the strictly legal sense and made her THINK he was going to hurt her?
I really want to give praise to Quakes wife and mother for coming forward when they could do what many people do and cover up something wretched a loved one did. They’re special, rare, and people with true integrity. If no one lose has told them, they did the right thing.
I wonder if Alexandra has misophonia, and maybe wasn't aware of the condition. I have misophonia, and it's a horrible condition. It basically translates to "hatred of sound", and it's an imbalance in the brain that certain sounds will cause your fight or flight reflexes to kick in. You have no control of the immense rage, hate, depression, etc... All negative emotions piled on you at one time.. When it's triggered. I'm not saying there's an excuse for what she did. She lied, and it sounds like she's a horrible person. But there are levels to miso, with the lower levels causing a mild irritation with the fight or flight reflexes, and the highest level causing an outburst of hatred and anger. Your blood boils and you'll do anything to stop the sound that's setting you off. It does not however, turn people into killers. Now if you combine miso with other mental conditions.... Well that could be a recipe for disaster...
The moral is and always will be that if you cannot cope with a baby, you tell someone immediately and do not let it get to the stage where you are losing your temper with a baby. All parents struggle, it’s normal, it’s the reaction to that struggle that defines your character.
Breaks my heart whenever I hear a case of shaken baby syndrome 😓
I think people just don't know what to look for when it comes to post-partum & things like that. The mom is going to say everything is fine, I'm just tired. That's not an excuse by any means, I just honestly wouldn't know what to look for.
@@BirdsOfGlass well, yeah, that’s why my comment was about the parent not letting it get to that point and telling someone immediately, even if it’s hard and you’re scared, because realistically it’s not possible to tell from the outside. The earlier they talk to someone the better the chances are that the outcome will be good.
The sad thing is, babies are easy. The older they get the harder they get. I have four and never once when they cried as babies did it bother me. Babies cry for a reason, all you have to do is rock them and tune it out. I know everyone is different but honestly, I don't understand why people do this to their little ones... 😕
Exactly. Really well put. I wish more people could understand this way of thinking BUT I guess that's the point: those who understand this perspective of thinking, tend to have better control to how they respond to things because they understand that *having thoughts of frustration is completely normal when in a stressful situation. It's how you respond to that stress through the way you decide how to act upon that stress. You have the choice how YOU respond or React to things around you.
The guy who narrates these.... your voice is phenomenal. One of my favorites.
I really like it too!
I totally agree 👍
Absolutely 💙
Aye. Here here!!
Totally agree!!
To any new mom, I get it when you go w/o sleep and there is no one to help and you FEEL desperate, engage your neighbor, your OB/🤷♀️🤷♀️GYN, ANYONE, you know you’re on the edge, reach out to anyone, including 911 that you are feeling desperate. The feelings ARE overwhelming and I get it more than you can know, don’t stop reaching out, even your pediatrician can help. DON’T GO IT ALONE.
Thankfully nothing awful happened in my case, a Sunday School member must’ve been able to see my raggedness -hubby wouldn’t help and with a 4 yr old up at 7, and the newborn who was up every hour, I felt like I was sleepwalking. She just showed up, told me to go ‘get some sleep’ and I went down for FOUR HOURS. ASK FOR HELP!
Yo fuck your husband for not helping you
I don't care how frustrated, angry or upset a baby makes someone......their is no excuse to harm the baby or shake it. If someone is not capable of dealing with everything that comes from having a baby then they shouldn't of had the baby. I'm a Male and it's basic knowledge that Men are slightly more aggressive and far more physically violent then Women and I can tell you I have a very bad temper sometimes and I could break things or smash things but I could never harm another innocent human being let alone a defenceless baby. It's disgusting and shameful.
Thank God you got the help you needed! It can be really embarrassing to seek help. It’s almost like you think people will judge you and think you’re a bad mom. Your negative thoughts are your worst enemy! I’m so thankful I had a mom a I could pour my heart out to and she made sure I got the help I needed. If not for my mom, I’m not sure I would’ve opened up to anyone 😢
@subst4nce973
Please educate yourself on post-partum depression and psychosis. It's clear you aren't educated on it at all.
I watched my sister-in-law go through this, and it was extremely sad and heart-breaking.
@@goose7574 watching the same video as you all im sure he got plenty of eduaction, what this internet stranger is saying is that no matter how troubled your mind is, there is no words given or definition to the evil you'll commit to once you take a life of defensive child. no matter post partum depression or any state of mind youre in, this is pure evil. so with that being said its kind of shameful of you to claim this stranger has no education on the subject when he was just stating a valid opinion on the subject. welp hope you all have a good day. peace.
My friend's daughter was born prematurely. The midwife said my friend shouldn't overfeed her daughter because her organs weren't fully developed yet. The baby just cried for over 2 months, but she was only supposed to feed small portions. When my friend was mentally and physically exhausted, she went to the children's hospital, where a doctor told her "Your daughter is hungry, feed her sensibly" and things went uphill from there. she felt ripped off by the midwife
Midwives rarely have actual licenses or certifications. It’s horrible.
Maybe the midwife was right, but like small portions for a week, not 2 months?
@@lauren9373 We talking about MILK i doubt that would damage the baby instead of helping him develop what had to
@paulrobert4657 but everything in moderation...even drinking too much water as an adult can kill, think the midwife was right but the mum continued for too long
I was a preemie baby/3 months early, and my mom was advised the same thing by a doctor when she received me. I was too small to nurse from her, so they had to use tiny/mini bottles. I couldn't even drink her milk because my stomach wouldn't take it, baby formula was the only thing I could drink until food was introduced. I was given small amounts until it was ok to increase the formula. It isn't strange... 2months small dozes maybe but it really depends.
"While many news outlets claim she was playing FarmVille, it was actually FishVille." Well, I'm glad we got that cleared up!
Was nice of him to defend Farmvilles honor lol
I had been losing sleep over it. I'd lay there, tossing and turning, thinking "I can't believe she was playing Farmville."
Lmaooo 😂
@@exbronco Tell me about it. I suffered for weeks with no sleep for the exact same reason! I finally got over it, - until - a friend of mine said he heard it was neither! There are now claims it was Candy Crush, so I haven't slept at all in the last 5 nights & see no relief on the horizon 😵💫
@@NicholasGuccione damn it! I wish you hadn't told me that. you started the problem for me all over again.
I had postpartum depression with my first baby, and if it wasn’t for my grandmother coming to my rescue several times, I don’t know what could have happened. I wasn’t diagnosed with it right away by my OB because the signs weren’t there until after a few days. A mom needs to have a support system in place before giving birth to ensure that her baby is safe, and so is she. The baby isn’t the only victim. Hormone imbalances are nothing to ignore after birth, and all moms should be tested for this imbalance after childbirth. I truly believe that if these steps were in place, there would be less early child abuse.
Regardless of ppd diagnosis. A mother having a strong support system would prevent these outcomes completely
Agreed 110 percent
Absolutely! Less shame and stigma in talking openly about these things and more strong support systems in place would probably go a long way to near eradicating these tragedies. I’m sorry for what you went through, I’m glad you had your grandmother around!
I think sometimes too we don't realize it's ppd in the moment till it passes. I look back at my first pregnancy and I can say the contrast to my 2nd now that I think I was experiencing ppd. I was so overwhelmed, exhausted, emotional, and never felt I was doing good enough. But with my 2nd pregnancy I was introduced to perinatal therapy and assistance and it has done wonders for my mental health. I only wish I knew of the options before.
you mean to the childs rescue?
I sit at my desk all day with an airpod in, watching EWU, than sending each episode I watch to a coworker, who sits at her desk watching other episodes as well. Love the content, the information gathering, and the content delivery. Don’t know any that do it better.
wow... 0 work at your office
@@sharondanya 🤣🤣🤣
You have very liberal employers.
I do get same lol xx
Why we have long hold times
Before I left hospital with my eldest, the nurses took my husband aside and told him to ensure that I was okay and not exhibiting signs of postpartum depression. They also spoke with me and told me it would be nothing to be ashamed of. At the time I was insulted but then soon realised that looking after a baby is harder than you’d believe & actually, the nurses advice helped me & my husband cope those first weeks when exhausted.
Years ago women used to have 20 kids
@@patienceobongodid you also forget those ended up serving in the world war probably most of them died. It's a shame that you weren't one of those kids. Your a waste of a soul.
@@patienceobongohow close you to the 20?
@@patienceobongo20 is a bit exaggerated. But even if, many of those children also died due to malnutrition, illnesses and surely also because the parents left them alone or in the care of siblings that were too young to take care of them. They left 2 year olds to play outside by themselves in the care of a 4 or 5 year old. Not something that most parents would do nowadays.
@@patienceobongogood to know?
The best parenting advice i was ever given was “a baby wont die from crying too hard, If you need a breather you need to take one”. Obviously keep your eye on the kid still, don’t leave them alone, but if theyre screaming in their crib, step aside, take a breath, relax. Its for the sake of both of you.
Agree with this totally. I was a single mother with my daughter, no family, living in a new city so didn't know anyone, so I had literally no one... no support system at all.
There were a few times when I made sure my baby was in a safe position, and then had to take a breather. Just 5 minutes out of the room to calm my mind, have a drink... tea not alcohol, and just gather myself.
It's so simple, but was a life saver for me. Like you said, leaving a baby to cry for 5 or 10 minutes won't harm them and gives you that vital space to compose yourself. I think some mums put too much pressure on themselves to be perfect, like not leaving their baby to cry, wanting to fix it instantly. And in some tragic cases the frustration and overwhelming mix of emotions overwhelms and in an instant they've done something that's irreversible. So preventable, step away and if possible reach out for help.
Of course, some are just evil and nothing would stop them
she was on xanax, she was playing video games, she was already on a break and took more after shaking the baby. I would say if a baby is interrupting you by crying then you're probably neglecting it so don't abuse it on top of that. it's not just postpartum depression, foster parents get angry at kids for being hungry.
Thank you for adding the PSA about Postpartum depression. New mother's struggles are often dismissed and most mothers feel so alone during those first few months.
PPD is no excuse for harming a baby; their is no excuse for harming a baby.
That isn't what they are saying. They are saying thank you for people about that is common in new mothers that isn't talked about and is usually dismissed or frowned apon.
@@subst4nce973 I agree but that's not what they're trying to say at all. They're saying that PPD is not something that should be ignored or brushed because of the risks it carries. And even though it's not an excuse, it is a reason and a factor for harming a baby.
@@subst4nce973 I mean actually that is an incorrect statement seems as though PPD can be a leading factor in why parents harm their children. Do you not know anything about PPD?
@@subst4nce973Entirely false. PPD is the ONLY thing that makes such an act semi-understandable. The mind is flooded with hormones and thoughts and if not put into check, will overwhelm the woman. She will take her own life, or she will lash out.
When the guy in the last case flat out says “they should never have let me out!”, you know that your judicial system is flawed and very ineffective! R.I.P. Dylan, Sydney and Jill.
Well, for this guy yeah it was flawed, but if you were given the files of a hundred “offenders” up for parole, and you can’t legally or logistically lock everyone who committed any crime up for life, could you predict perfectly who will re-offend and who won’t? I sure couldn’t and I don’t believe you could either….is that a flaw?
Yeah I live in Australia ... our laws for murderers and rapists and anything else is pitiful.... The parole board should take some responsibility for letting him out all the time, that's why I like American laws ...he'd be in for life or death sentence
When your crime is aggravated assault & rape against women, & you are a known repeat offender... please explain how being watched 24hrs a day & locked away with grown men, and not assaulting or raping them shows "good behaviour"
Yeah.
I kind of got the feeling that he was trying to shift some of the blame from himself onto the judicial system.
PPD and Post Partum psychosis can be a very scary thing. It needs to be spoken about more so mother's can get helped faster.
my mom had ppd, almost killed my brother and called my dad who came home immediatly despite his boss being a jerk about it. shes talked about how if he hadnt come home she doubts either of them would be here right now.
@@RepentfollowJesus you did as much as you could at the time some would not have even done that
I had PND with my son. Luckily I'd already suffered from depression for years so knew what the signs were and got help straightway. Luckily, due to this is also saw it in one of my closest friends at the time. Her health visitor was as useful as a chocolate teapot. Me and her aunt were the ones who got her seen by a doctor and got her help. Luckily after this, when she had her second child she was immediately put back on her meds. More awareness needs to be raised and women need to know there is no shame in having those feelings and that there is support out there. Xxx
Absolutely, though I think EWU picked a bad case to be an illustrator of it. They seemed to suggest this one was related to PPD/PPP, but glossed over parts of the story they should've probed into further. We're finally learning that the constellation of symptoms previously believed to _only_ be the result of "Shaken Baby Syndrome" are not, in fact, unique to SBS. They can even be caused by birth trauma that doesn't lead to death for many weeks.
However, because those symptoms are supposed to be "smoking gun" symptoms, police questioning often results in exactly the sort of answers we saw in this case. Usually starting somewhere around, "Well, he did bump his head on the changing table, and I wasn't really gentle putting him in the pack-n-play," moving toward, "I guess he could've hit his head harder than I thought," when the mother is told it was too severe to be an accident, then "Maybe I did shake him a little," after hearing these symptoms _only_ appear as the result of shaking, and ending up something like, "I must've shaken him pretty hard, twice," after being told a little shake couldn't have done this--but it was definitely, 100% caused by shaking.
Im pretty sure i had post partum psychosis. I used to genuinely believe someone was coming out our loft and harming our daughter at night. Any noise i would get up and sit in her room for hours and i would constantly go back and forth. I used to pace around constantly at night. Eventually i just snap out of it not sure if was because lock down happened and my partner was then home all the time or if it was went i got pregnant as they both happened around the same time
Every Australian knows the Jill Meagher case. She was so lovely and innocent and as a nation we were devastated at what happened to her. All these cases are so sad.
So many of the Melbourne public became invested in this case culminating in thousands of people coming together in a public march against violence. Watching the news footage of thousands of people marching still makes me emotional
it rocked the entire nation, he should never have been released. still they gave him a minimum of 35 - 40 years. What a disgrace, I feel gutted for her family and husband.
Every Irish person too. So sad.
@@SerenityChaos1975 If they didn't connect this guy to her murder that poor husband would always be vilified. I think he's up for parole at 83, not guaranteed a release.
Our justice system in Australia I believe is the worst in the western world. So broken it’s crumbled beyond repair. More max security prisons need to be built. Our prisons are overflowing that’s why so many crims are walking free. No where to put them.
I developed post Partum Psychosis with both of my kids. I only got through it and got better because I had help and support from others around me. It's a shame we treat it as a taboo subject. If you're a mother and you feel like something is wrong or you're not coping well, DO NOT BE ASHAMED OR EMBARRASSED to ask for help! There is nothing wrong with needing help and if you don't feel like you're being listened to, keep trying until you find someone who will listen to you before it's too late...
I didn't realize I had it until it just...lifted one day when my daughter was about two. It was such a relief because those first two years were miserable. I was finally in a better mental state to deal with toddler power struggles in a more productive way.
I’m not attacking you. Just an honest question. Since you had post partum psychosis the first time, did you and your husband consider not having a 2 child?
You know, that's strong of you to admit and talk about. Huge respect for getting help, and openly talking about these things.
My cousin had ppd really bad. I think she’s honestly still dealing with it. But they almost took her kids because we wanted to get her help. I know it’s not everywhere… but making these mothers jump through hoops after already taking a huge jump to check themselves in somewhere.. we need a better system for them. They should be able to see and talk to their babies if they want to and we need to give them help instead of feeling like they are being punished for being sick
@@ProudPatriotOfNMhi!! this is a totally valid question. so as someone who has had Post Partum Anxiety, i can’t tell you exactly what their experience was, but i agree with OP about the fact that a lot of times you dont know you have it until you just dont! i used to have graphic, gory, terrible visions of people dropping my son or him falling off high places, or of my plane crashing and the exact way id save him and die during, as far as the process of him waiting for his dad to get to him and him wondering why i left him. it is absolutely miserable but as new moms a lot of times we convince ourselves we just aren’t strong enough or that we need to be better moms. it wasn’t until after i came out of the deep of it that i realized what it really was.
as far as having more kids, its possible that 1) the mom was still in the trenches and didn’t realize it wasn’t just what being a mom is like, or 2) she was able to acknowledge the reality and had a support system who could be there for her through it + the awareness to see the signs herself and felt that she could handle it again.
obviously i cant tell you that commenters exact thoughts, but thats just how it seems from my POV! 🫶🏼🫶🏼
I'm thankful my postpartum depression wasn't as bad as this. I love my son so much, but my depression made me think I was an awful mom. I felt like I wasn't doing enough for my son. But never once did I get frustrated with him or think of harming him in any way. I felt like a failure of a mother. I was living with my parents at the time while my fiance was trying to get us into an apartment, so I was very thankful for the help.
My heart goes out to all those mothers that are struggling or have struggled in the past. We see you, and you are doing the best you can. Each day gets a little easier, but please reach out to help if you are feeling frustrated. Talk to family, friends, anyone that can give you that moment of peace to recollect yourself. It's ok to put the baby in the crib and walk away for a few minutes to calm down. It's ok. You are doing great!
I was living in Melbourne when this happened to Jill. It shocked the whole community and brought out protesters onto the streets. He's a real monster and should have never been paroled in the first place. The justice system is fuck up in Australia and parole boards always let these psychopaths out early. They should never be free. Use him for medical research.
It's sad when the police catch them only for Courts and Parole Boards to let them back on the streets.
Police must be livid.
Well, they need room for all the drug addicts... derrrr.
criminal behavior is encouraged these days
@@shoshafogel4780
It's terrible.
But think how people in American cities feel.
Australia is paradise compared to that.
My housemate was sleeping 10 Metres from where this happened. CCTV was pretty useless quality.
The first story is so heart breaking... my older sister was murdered by her 16 yr old babysitter at 18 months.. I am a mother of a 3 yr old and it's a challenge, but I can't imagine what goes through a person's head when doing something do horrible 😓
Was the babysitter convicted of the crime?
@@zacharyshort384 I don't think so 😓 from what I found out, he went free.. 😓
@@angeliasanchez1200 what . Come on nobody can get away with murder. They could be sent to a mental hospital if they are not well ( psychologically)
@@sujathan4116 nobody can get away with murder? What about all the cases where they haven't caught the killer? Even serial killers can get away with it
@@LeahDelBae Yeah, that's a rather odd statement. They must be living on a different planet heh.
I had PPD with my first son. He was colicky and didn't sleep at night. I was exhausted and mentally stressed. I remember placing him in the bassinet a little more rough than I should have. He gave a startled reaction than bawled. Immediately I was hit with guilt and picked him up and just apologized repeatedly. My mom, now ex husband and other family members helped me through that time. It's ok to feel the way we do but it's important to reach out to anyone who can help. Please ask for help it's not your fault but it's not your babies fault either. I was mentally, emotionally and verbally abused growing up and I ended that cycle. It is possible to change the pattern but nothing comes without very hard work and determination. RIP to all the babies who didn't make it!!
Berlyn Grey...what the hell is wrong with you? Shut up
"It's nobodies fault." Said the abuser to the victim, the murderer to the dead.
Seriously though, acknowledging these inherent traits within yourself before acting upon them, is indeed the best and healthy way. Waving away personal responsibility over these traits, is just not going to cut it. Babies deserve more care and attention than what that feminist empowerment agenda is even remotely worth.
And being completely honest; not every person is capable of being a parent, let alone "good".
@@MrYelly it's sad the amount of babies that suffer because the mother either can't or won't reach out for help. First though they have to admit that something is wrong and unfortunately for many that comes too late.
@@berlyngrey9242 Diminishing fault diminishes personal responsibility, which leads to increased negligence.
Guilt is never a pleasant experience, yet sometimes it serves a function.
@@MrYelly only those who aren't diagnosed as psychopaths or sociopaths experience guilt. For the ones with that disorder it's a lost cause
Thanks for covering the Jill Meagher case in Melbourne. It was a huge deal in Australia, and I'm glad the cops didn't fixate on her husband for too long. Bayley is an absolute monster. He had served jail for sexual assault more than once, in addition to his other violent crimes. The only good thing to arise from the case is that parole is dished out much more carefully in the State of Victoria.
I think you have that wrong they murders get bail even if they have they have criminal charges for other thing , basically our justice system is telling them that it’s ok to kill you will only get a couple of years Victoria’s justice system is a joke . Then when the go to court the do good judges let them off . And so it continues we have more crime in Melbourne now than we did 20 years ago. Jill’s death could have been prevented if the judge did his job but no he gave that evil sob bail even though he had been on bail for rape at the time .
Post Partum Depression and lack of sleep can very much make a very loving, caring, and patient mother have an instantaneous violent episode. Other countries provide after birth care for mothers for several months because it is so taxing and hard on us. But the USA is just like, "Welp, there ya go. Good luck." Birth takes a toll on our bodies and our minds. We don't get enough support after giving birth. 2 days in the hospital is nothing, and we are often woken up every 45 mins for some random testing instead of just letting us get the sleep we need. Nobody wants to help after the birth, but they are more than willing to lock us up when we can't get the help or support we need.
This wasn't spontaneous she had been beating on this baby more then once !!
Don't have a baby if you aren't emotionally mature enough to take care of a baby.
@@Anna-br9jt PPD doesn't occur until AFTER having the baby. It has nothing to do with emotional maturity and everything to do with changing hormones and whirlwind of biological after-fects which occur in the body during and after pregnancy. Your lack of understanding only highlights the way in which some people would rather place blame on the result of the problem rather than the issue itself. Sad. Maybe you shouldn't make comments if you aren't mature or informed enough to understand what you're talking about.
Truer words have never been spoken. I was frustrated and confused as to why nurses kept coming into my room every 10 minutes for those two days. Only when they took my baby out of the room to do the carseat test did they let me sleep for about four hours without interruption.
The UK gives new mothers a caregiver that checks up on them and the child until that child reaches 5 years old. Imagine how many less problems the US would have if we had something as simple as this.
@@Anna-br9jt This is how newborns work:
Baby feeds for an hour and a half then mom gets to take a 10-30 minute nap with Baby before Baby wakes up again screaming for more breastmilk. Baby feeds for another hour and a half then mom takes a 10-30 minute nap with Baby until Baby wakes up screaming for more breastmilk or a diaper change. Baby feeds for another hour and a half then mom takes a 10-30 minute nap with Baby until Baby wakes up screaming for more breastmilk or a diaper change. Baby feeds for another hour and a half then mom takes a 10-30 minute nap with Baby until Baby wakes up screaming for more breastmilk or a diaper change. Baby feeds for another hour and a half then mom takes a 10-30 minute nap with Baby until Baby wakes up screaming for more breastmilk or a diaper change. Baby feeds for another hour and a half then mom takes a 10-30 minute nap with Baby until Baby wakes up screaming for more breastmilk or a diaper change.
This occurs every minute of every day for four straight months. What other sleep deprecation boot camp have you gone to that is as intense as taking care of a newborn? I'd like to see your Certificate of Completion and how maturely you handled it.
I myself had and still have postpartum depression, my child is in good hands and care . It was extremely bad. I couldn’t eat, if I did eat I would either puke or If I could keep it down I would have diarrhoea couldn’t sleep, high heart rate and sweats, didn’t want to hang out with no one , had no desire to do anything that I liked …This guy nailed it right on the money with the symptoms. I tried very hard to raise My child, she was about 18 months when I had to make that hard decision to send her away and be safe. The hardest , and I mean the hardest thing to do is to admit you need help . It was very hard I cried for months afterwards, I felt like a total let down , worthless . Better off dead, I tried twice to hang my self while she was in my care. That was 4 years ago . She’s now 5 years old , and the life her grandmother and father are giving her , is more then I could ever imagen someone would do to make the situation on ur mental health and safety of both is just amazing and a blessing . I miss my child , there is not a moment or a day that goes by that I don’t think of her and I honestly get teary eyed and still at times I feel like a failure. I have been on Zoloft 150 for 4 years and I am also on Ativan , because the panic attacks are still very much there . I go see my daughter as often as I can . And I’m very great full for how my daughters life is turning out for her . I also am someone who got abused (from the earliest age of 6 that I can remember, till I was 16, when he finally passed. Daily basis ) and that really honestly plays a part in postpartum depression. Ptsd , anxiety, depression, any mental health issue really..Even with pills and counselor, psychiatrist and random things to attend where women have the same problem .. but in the end . It’s still very much there, it still very much rips my heart out .If u feel it..ask for help ! That doesn’t make anyone a bad mother . It’s not a fun thing to endure, and I was told to not have another kid because it could possibly get worse .. the child’s life and ur life is worth seeking that help .. you must bear down and tell the hurtful and harmful things u r thinking . The truth is better then taking a life . And you don’t know if u r gonna Wind up in those like her . The dark thoughts are horrible. And it’s not worth pushing urself to that point of try harder , just try harder . U end up emotionally physically and mentally drained and with sleep deprivation on top . It’s the perfect recipe for disaster.. don’t be afraid to ask for help , for someone to take on ur child. If u make that effort to see the child and be around as often as You can , and make sure u tell them u love them every single time u see them . Cuz in the end that’s still ur child , you and I shall always be available when you can finally have that healthy thinking you will thank yourself for seeking that help.. I’m not the same person I once was, postpartum depression, Post traumatic stress disorder, anxiety disorder and sever anger issues have definitely changed me .. and there was no way I was gonna live a lie and risk everything or be labeled and jailed for a mistake . I’d rather be labeled as a woman who recognized what was wrong , and took action for the well being of my child and my self .. it doesn’t matter if ur family don’t understand. And do not and I mean do not push yourself because that’s what ur parents did so You should be able to do it .. no that’s putting off a serious issue . And I don’t care what any dr says . That postpartum depression don’t go away , once u got it u have it for life . I’m going on year 5 with meds and it’s still there , not fully gone , and it never will . Maternal depression.. that’s what it should be called after two years of having postpartum depression. It’s not a funny thing , and it is worse then suicide, depression. Theres two who feed off each other . baby’s and tots pick up on ur mental break downs . And that can cause them to be even more fussy then normal . And there’s no way I was letting her see her mothers mental health step in the way of life . Wasn’t happening . If you need help today! Don’t wait ! Please go get it ! As much as u don’t want to let go, sometimes that’s the healthiest thing for everyone . Doesn’t mean ur not gonna be around , just means ur fixing urself . And u recognized what’s up ! And that u should be proud of , but I’m gonna admit it’s hard to accept.
Good for you not being selfish and keeping her knowing her father could give her more! My father raised me from 6 alone... he's not here anymore but I'm super close to my mom even tho she didn't have a hand in raising me persay.. I saw her on weekends and she came to my school stuff but he was my care giver! I'm so grateful my mom allowed my father to take me and raise me... I love and respect her and have told her how grateful I am that she wasn't selfish and kept me just to.. your daughter will feel the same way one day if not already... my nephew is being raised by his father and grandparents cuz my sister has some mental health issues.. I believe it's postpartum but they say no cuz my nephew's 3.. I feel it's been untreated so it's lingering.. her meds haven't helped a bit! She's gained way to much weight from the meds.. I pray all the time she will tell them her treatment plan isn't working... I believe some anti depressants and some anxiety
Meds would do her justice!!! Keep on pushing!!!!! Look for the sunshine after the rain!
You did what you had to as a mama to keep your baby safe!! 👏👏try keep strong,sending prays 🙏 💖
You’re a great mother. A good mother ALWAYS puts their baby first, and that’s exactly what you did, even though it hurt you beyond measure. Never forget that. When your daughter is old enough to understand, you can explain it to her and how much you love her: enough to let her go. It was a huge and brave sacrifice. Thank goodness for those who stepped in. It’s really a happy ending. Your poor mental health is no different to poor physical health. There is no judgement. Good luck to you going forward. You have my respect, and admiration x
@@user-fb3pu3qx3t exactly 💯 x
You're doing so well. You had the hardest decision to make and you made the right one. I wish I had a mother like you.
I think this is so terrifying because we all recognise those terrible moments, those surges of blind aggression towards someone (adult or child) who is driving you to the limit of your sanity... and we are all scared of what we might do in a fit of rage. Thankfully, most of us stop short of hurting our children or anyone else, no matter how angry you are. But the strength lies in recognising when you might be a danger to your child and to remove yourself from the situation. It is a very hard and scary thing 😢
Ummmmmmm, I think those people that have this type of unbridled aggression need to seek help for themselves or, hopefully, the loved ones in their lives will recognize that they need professional help and support.
No offence, but if you recognize this rage in yourself, please talk to a professional or a loved one who will support you and get you help. Especially if you have a child- the bravest thing that you could do, would be to seek out help now.
@@lillukey4633 I am 48 years old and my children are teenagers now :) they're all alive and well :) I did indeed get help and my anti-anxiety medication helps me a lot. But when the children were little, I had moments of blind rage when I was afraid of what might happen. Fortunately I knew to step away at those moments and they passed. I do think many parents experience this, I know many I have spoken to do/did. That doesn't mean we would actually hurt our children! The step for feeling rage to action is one most of us don't cross. But still, I have heard people admit their biggest fear is losing control one day. I remember someone telling me she threw a bottle of olive oil (I think) against the wall, where it shattered, and all she could think was: I could have thrown the baby like that. But she didn't. That is the difference. She threw a bottle instead and never ever hurt the baby. Anyway, what I'm trying to say is we all have moments of weakness and we all sometimes worry about what we are capable of. Well, maybe not all, and I'm happy for those who don't that you don't have to experience dark moments like that. But that's all they are, moments that pass. 💚
@@lillukey4633 Yeah they should seek some form of help and in _most_ cases they do, however even the small percentage that don't is still a plethora. Personally any of my anger or rage has always been taking out..... "Healthily". Not really, but healthier than taking it out of anyone or anything around (I tend to shut myself off and go walk off into the woods for a little bit, punched plenty a tree when I was younger, broken hands to attest to that. Like I said, not REALLY healthily as I was a younger lad but more-so as I've gotten older -however conversation, therapy, etc has never been that productive for me- )
@@lillukey4633 can't tell me you've never been mad, pissex off. Have you finished puberty yet. Testosterone is powerful. Plus it's just our instincts when adrenaline kicks in.
I do not recognise any terrible moments of blind aggression towards children. Nor do the people I associate with. Perhaps you best seek help for that aggression that is so normalized to you.
A few months after I had my daughter, I told my family I was going to the doctor for antidepressants. My grandmother questioned it due to me breast feeding. I told them all, “this isn’t a choice. This is a must”. I never understood how someone could shake their baby like that….until one very sleep deprived, constant crying night….I understood completely how that could happen and it terrified me.
This. I, too, had never understood how someone could do it, either…….until my second was born and was EXTREMELY colicky and inconsolable for 90% of the day EVERY day. On top of the colic, I was diagnosed with postpartum depression at my eight week check up. I’m grateful I had family to step in and help on the days where it seemed too much for me (my spouse worked two full time jobs).
Yep. I had a therapist tell me once that any new mother who claims to never have had those intrusive thoughts isn't telling the truth. The difference between PPD and normal motherhood is the frequency and intensity. I also understood how moms forget their babies in a car too - you just don't understand that level of sleep deprevation until you're a new mom, working full time and trying to breast feed.
Never feel bad for asking for help. You can't take care of anyone until you care for yourself.
I was a young parent I was only 15 years old when I had my daughter and my grandfather would tell me all the time when I lived with him if you feel you're getting overwhelmed or frustrated come and get me. I think he was always afraid of that one or two seconds of spazzing out and shaking a child and the baby dying .
Please tell me that the father wasn't older than 17-18 when you conceived the baby. And also I know teen pregnancy is taboo to many people so congrats on managing raising a baby in such a weird stage of your life, I imagine it must have been tough
Great timing! I was just binging some of your older content! Always appreciate the hard work and analysis you put into your videos! Thank you, EWU!
Samesy, they must’ve been wavin with us.
@@sincerity3990 great minds think alike!!😊
Me too.
Bing?
Excellent as always!
That first case got me, the fear of snapping caused my decision of not having children and although it's so much better now, I've been working on this anger management problem my whole life.
It's incredible, how much higher the tendency to slap a child in a high stress scenario becomes, if you've experienced it as a kid yourself; hence the name "cycle of abuse".
but to a tiny baby is unfathomable.
Glad to hear you chose not to have children when you realized you wouldn’t have been able to handle it. So many mentally ill people carelessly get pregnant, and usually with people who are just as sick or degenerate.
@Dani Kouakou
You've described this REALLY well, I didn't trust myself with kids, when I noticed, that constant baby cries and/or toddler tantrums in public transportion drove me nuts repeatedly.
I wanted to hit the parents/adults, who didn't do anything to console their own kids and expected everybody else present to "just get over it" ... that's when I started to realize, that I would be totally overwhelmed, if these were my own kids and I couldn't take a break from them; it's an ugly feeling ... however I think I made the right decision.
That's why I wrote my comment, bc I feel, that's a very important discussion to have for the sake of the children!
@@bruggeman672 Why? It’s the truth. I’m not gonna delete because you told me to.
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Next time just don't reply to a rightfully deleted comment, please, bc basically you brought her back here by addressing her; that's the best "don't feed the troll" tip on the internet.
Thank you so much for defending me in your other comments!
The case of Sydney happened close to where I live and was a big story locally, coming from a small and quiet town. Saying he broke down and confessed feels too humanizing. Quake was a part of the local searches for her and “broke down” and confessed when the search crew came close to her burial site (on his family property I believe) and knew the jig was up, but even then he kept up some of the charades. His original story was that he accidentally ran her over and killed her, panicked and buried her. Came out that he definitely backed over her after she had already been run over once, and he had SA’d her whether alive or not. He is definitely missing something upstairs, but that doesn’t discount at all what he did to that poor chick.
POV: WHEN YOU ALWAYS BURY THE PERSON WHEN YOU ARE PANICKING
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I can’t believe that she was 25. She looked much older.
feel like she probably bullied him at one point and he had pent up resentment towards her
@@mary._.yamborghini I feel like you have no clue what you’re talking about. He was unhinged, the girl isn’t to blame at all. I don’t think she wanted anything to do with him, he was obsessed with her. Even if somehow this war her fault and she was a bully, bullies don’t deserve to be rped and murdered either.
@@StylishCatfish i dont think Maryam wasnt blaming Sydney in any way(noone would), she just described a possible way that led to this cruel end. and i too believe that the key is somewhere looong way back in their history, maybe really at high school... maybe "bullied" isnt even the right word, maybe he had a crush on her in teenage days, she denied... in his mind.. he never forgot that...
but their long history, the unfriending on facebook shortly before, and than such a cruel end... too much coincidence for me to believe it was a "unlucky" sequence of events with no back story
I got post-partum depression after my first son. I've told my main obgyn, told a second obgyn, and a therapist but got little help. Even after almost ending my life, still got no help. Now I'm just living with daily.
How long has it been? I didn't realize I had PPD until it just lifted after two years. I found escaping into a good story/book helped. Being able to enter another world for a little while (even with all the interruptions) and fantasize about being there really helped to alleviate the pressure of the real world. If only for a little bit.
Hope you're doing okay
We have good postpartum care here in MA. But two women were in fully time 8 hour a day programs for PPD and she still killed all her kids 😢 her husband never left her alone because of it and he did for 15 mins to get take out since she don’t cook anymore and he had the 3 littles. She took that 15 mins to murder the kids horrficly. Another one almost killed the kids by driving into a brick wall by did stop thank God. Her by involved husband , like the first that didn’t even work anymore to deal with her, he called and got to them. Now she isn’t even allow with them. But even with help. Sometimes they’re just too crazy and need to be removed from the home
Took me 18 years to find a Dr to help. In CA. I have children, never did I want to hurt THEM.. just me. I finally have a doctor that believes me. It's so hard going from doctor to doctor, getting the courage to tell someone that basic tasks make you wanna choose death in a non exaggerated way, just to be told "step away and breathe".. makes you wanna slap the person who gave them a license. But it's been 2 years medicated and I've never.. ever.. been happier. We got this! One day at a time, and remember, all accomplishments ARE accomplishments.. no matter how small. Much love💜🖤
PPD is really really intense. Having struggled here and there with depression my whole life, I felt I could handle it. But I was wrong. I wrote a message to my doctor saying I was having thoughts of harming my baby because he wasn’t sleeping and always screaming and crying, and I wasn’t sleeping more than 2 hours here and there. Thankfully we got something worked out with my family having him some of the time so that I could sleep. It was so hard to admit how I was feeling, because I didn’t want them to take my baby away from me. I loved him (still do) so somuch, but my thoughts were scaring me. I didn’t know where they came from and I didn’t want to have them. I didn’t know what to do. So I contacted my doctor. It was a rough time those first 3 months. They say put the baby down and leave the room or house to have a break from incessant screaming and crying, but It was going on for 4 hours. After about 10 minutes I would feel guilty and I would go to him.
Was looking for something to watch & EWU with the perfect clutch timing 💪🏾 Thank u Raven
Same here. Chips on my lap. Searched for this. And found it.
There’s no better place for TWISTED stories and cases!!! ❤️❤️❤️
It's hard to overstate just how intensely the Jill Meagher case shocked and horrified the nation, especially in Melbourne where it happened.
I remember those 6 days she was missing seeming to stretch forever.
The government made serious changes to the law and the policies around who gets parole and what conditions they are under.
I was in Jail with the first girl back when I was just 18 (I’m 33 now) and she was segregated because the girls wanted to kill her. She was in a tiny cell on my pod that she never left. The other women would taunt her every single day banging on her cell at all hours and screaming how they’d kill her. I could never listen to the story of what she did it was just so horrible but I guarantee you she wishes she got death instead of what she did because her existence is rightfully miserable.
See that's a lot different from the baby killers I was locked up with. I wasn't in prison with them just county jail they weren't sentenced yet so it could have been different for them once they got to prison
@@JNB520 jail is not that bad at any rate. It's kindergarten compared to prison.
"Hurry, he's only fourteen weeks old!"
911 operator: "Shut up! SHUT UP! I'm trying to ask how old he is!!"
Well, it's been 25 yrs and my children are adults now. I was 18 when I git pregnant the 1st time. I was fresh out of foster care, had been a victim of abuse when I was a child, got pregnant after I got released from the system and the 'father' disappeared. I gave birth to a girl. My baby had colic for about 4 months. I thought I would lose my mind. I cried everytime she cried. I was exhausted, frustrated, irritated....and I did my very best. Sometimes, I put her in her bouncer seat and put it on top of the dryer while it was on, it helped. She slept in a bassinet beside me, and she was constantly fidgeting, never sleeping, always whining and it drove me nuts, and I had no support whatsoever. Sometimes, I rocked her bassinet pretty hard, sometimes I screamed, sometimes I plopped her down on the couch pretty hard, sometimes I left her crying in a play pen and turned music up loud....sometimes I shook her. It wasn't a violent shake because I knew it could hurt her, but enough to be wrong. I was young, inexperienced, unhealed from my own traumas, a brand new clueless single mother, and not a Soul to lean on for help in any capacity. My daughter survived, I survived, but not without pain about some things I wish I'd done differently. We can only really only function at the capacity of our own consciousness at any given time though, and I certainly never intended harm. The moral of my story is, if you know a single parent, live next to one, work with one, are friends with one.....please don't underestimate your capacity to help. They need someone to care, be unconditional in their words, offer support and help them, be like family they might not have otherwise. Even bringing a meal over can make such a difference and impact. Offer a hand and heart, and please understand how very challenging it is for them. Even filling up their gas tank once a month can bring profound relief. Anyway, this is a tragic story all the way around, so don't judge what you don't know and focus on knowing this happens more frequently than it should. 🕉
This 🙌 needs to be said more. If you’ve never experienced abuse, never dealt with the aftermath, never tried to look after a baby who cries continuously while dealing with hormones and possible depression and sleep deprivation, you’ll never know how close you can get to that edge.
this is why we need abortion
I truely don't understand how having a child was a good idea with your age and past experiences (traumas), during a failing and unstable relationship. You got pregnant almost directly after you were released from foster care? Or were you released from foster care because you got pregnant?
And that is why most people don't reach out or help. You cannot help a person who is this hellbend on making the most awful personal decisions in life. Cannot help a person away from the abyss they are so desperate to throw themselves in.
And if just for yourself, all fine and dandy, but you are not the only victim of your awful choices, and that I cannot forgive, or ignore.
@@MrYelly stay in your lane mr. yellow.....how dare you judge those mothers who are brave enough to speak their truth - maybe there was no access to abortion, or mental health supports.....or any number of other circumstances. Motherhood is fucking hard at the best of times and sanity threatening at the worst. Keep your sanctimonious self-righteous comments to yourself
@@kimdavidson4522 It is simply the truth. Too often, parenthood is considered a right, as a means to receive more money, when it is a priviledge and heavy responsibility.
And the kids that grow up without a father, dont get that right to speak that truth? Keep your hypocracy to yourself, Kim.
I remember being so invested in the search for Jill. It was so extremely sad when they found her body.
I love the proactive approach of providing information about what to look out for.
I don’t feel angry at the mother, more than anything I feel bad for her, everyone has been there at least once. I’ve been diagnosed with PPD myself.
More than once I’ve handed my daughter (she’s four months) to my partner because her crying was stressing me out and getting to me so much that I’m fearful I will hurt her if my partner doesn’t take her.
I only hope she got counselling in prison.
I do
She was physically abusing this precious baby for a long period of time. She is a monster.
@@CC-jl7jz I’m not saying she isn’t but I can’t completely hate her for it
My daughter is 8 and when she gets hurt it still pisses me off lol I don’t think it’s ever left me, the depression.
She must be a Dem. They love doing this to children.
I do feel empathetic towards Alexandra. Having been through post partum depression. I had other symptoms like her.. like not liking others touching the baby and scared that baby would turn cold if I even slept. I would think of doing extremes at my breaking points. But luckily to this day, didn’t even laid hands on my son. He is 3 now.
I do too though I think justice was served with her sentence. It's depressing to think that Tobias's death could have been prevented if his mother had or was able to get the help she needed.
the fact that the last guy even has a minimum sentence and isn't just in there for the rest of his miserable life is insane. How can someone spend a lifetime attacking women and continuously get out and do it again. seriously need to look at the justice system to figure something out, this is complete insanity.
I couldn’t keep on watching the same cases again and again. Perfect timing, thank you!!
My moms friend was suffering from postpartum depression a few months back and she ended up posting a suicide note on Facebook for us all to see, and shot herself in the head. Her mom and several other people after seeing the FB post, rushed over to her house but unfortunately it was too late and they found her in her bedroom. I’ll never forget that feeling in my stomach when I first read it. It’s shocking and almost hard to believe and I was holding out so much hope her mom would reach her in time smfh. That postpartum depression is not a joke, and if you feel yourself suffering from it please get help. Even my mom has told me of all the uncharacteristic, and intrusive thoughts that can come with it. I will never have a child for this reason. I already suffer from depression as is 💀Couldn’t imagine my mental state after having a baby. Wouldn’t be good for either one of us tbh.
It’s true. We have to realize it’s not all of our destiny to have kids. Some people are great people, but terrible parents. Our societies concepts are skewed and we pay the price.
Most guns end up being used to harm the people that own them. Sad statistic. Probably wouldn’t have happened if the gun wasn’t there.
I had two children in under 2 years! I was fine after baby 1 but after my second child arrived, something was off! I cried for no reason, I felt tied down to them and almost hated having to care for them. I KNEW something was wrong and thank GOD my mom noticed! She forced me to go to my doctor. I got on medication and in therapy immediately! It changed my life!! A few months later, I was BACK to my normal self and loving my boys like they needed to be loved. It makes me sad to even think back on those feelings I had at that time bc I love them more than life!! Thank God I got the help I needed.
I know Sydney and Quake personally. Such a crime so close to home took our small town by storm. Seeing someone covering it in such detail on UA-cam is even more surreal. RIP Sydney!
I used to play Quake too
Yeah that was a good series. Kinda miss it.
My health teacher in high school told us "Remember, there's nothing wrong with taking a few minutes to walk away and breathe. The baby will still be there when you calm down." I think about that every time a shaken baby case comes up.
I was so lucky when I had my daughter. She screamed for hours without any reason. (Not hungry, clean nappy and being hugged) nothing stopped her from screaming. I would walk the floor for hours with her. My parents were great dad would come home from work and take her to let me have a cup of tea or just to breathe without her screaming in my ear. Took till she was 2 to find out the reason she screamed was that she had glue ear so was in pain. So hard to be a mum that can't help her kid and without their support i don't know how I would have git through it.
If you know someone with a baby be there for them. A text from a friend offering a cuppa and chat can mean the world to someone who is struggling
What is glue ear?
For two years you let her suffer without taking her to a doctor?
Same thing happened with me as a child apparently. All of my family would tell me as I got older that all I did as an infant was cry, and it would drive everyone nuts. Come to find out I had a bad case of acid reflux and that’s why I was constantly screaming and crying. Glad my parents were aware enough to know when to step away and calm themselves down.
As a baby, I wouldn’t stop crying once and my mom went to emergency, and in the waiting room it turned out two of my toes were crossed and when she fixed it I stopped crying. She awkwardly got up and left the waiting room after lol
I have 4 kids. My youngest is only 4 months old. Whenever I'm home alone with a baby and I'm frustrated with them, I put them in a crib or bassinet and go into a different room to calm down for a few minutes. Maybe drink water, wash my face, have a quick snack, something to change my mood, BEFORE i pick up the baby again. Do NOT keep holding your baby if you're frustrated with them. Put them somewhere safe and go somewhere else to calm yourself down!!!
I raised my daughter myself for a good while alone as her mother wasn't coming home. No one told me about baby crying fits!!! Where they cry constantly for no reason. I freaked out a couple times being a guy and all but never never shook her. Jesus this hits close to home as years later her half sister would be in the same situation as this little baby. Sad truth of this cold world.
You are a very good man and a saint
@@softkitty775 I highly doubt that lol but I appreciate the kindness. No matter how fucked this world is try to smile through the bs.
@@TheDkb427you ARE a good man. You're more patient than some of the so called "mothers". Thank you for being gentle.
You want medal now ?
And then she comes up with some BS "fell off the couch" story.
Anybody with any understanding knows kids at that age are still made of rubber... a simple couch fall isn't gonna do it. Or even come remotely close. Easy red flag.
It's horrifying how many scum bag criminals get out to commit more crime, again and again.
The justice system needs a huge overhaul.
Even his own mother was appalled by his constant behaviour for years, not understanding why he kept being released.
It is okay to make sure your baby is in a swing or in a safe spot, and when you are that upset to walk away and take a couple mins. Breath down from 10 and calm your nerves. If still mad at a baby (had to imagine, but its mostly* stressed bc of baby) call someone to watch the baby. Please don't pick the baby up if feeling this type of way
She wasn't JUST mad or frustrated though. She suffered from PPD or likely even PPS. People with these conditions lose proper reasoning skills and the ability to reliably keep their child safe. This is why parents need a support system and for people to check in on them regularly and reliably.
Just get some blood and hormonal tests. That is all that was required to prevent many such events.
@@MrYelly blood tests can't detect PPD and PPS
@@_.-._.-. PPD and PPS are the result of a dramatic drop in hormones. You can simply get tested for this decrease in estrogen and progesterone.
Please at least read a comment before you reply to it.
@@MrYelly not every case is detectable with blood tests, especially in people with preexisting diagnoses that they may have had to go off medications for while pregnant.
This is perfect timing lol I was going to watch my show and I couldn’t then this video popped up! I love these kinda of videos !
I think people misidentified her as a protective mother. She was NOT protective of Dylan, She was protecting her secret of being a child abuser... She didn't want people to get close to Dylan because somebody may spot that something was wrong with him.
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I am a recovered addict and I’m very familiar with Xanax and you do completely black out sometimes but you can remember bits and pieces of what happened….and then other times you may remember absolutely nothing…most of the time you can get tiny pieces of the story enough to put together what you did
Aren't soundcloud rappers the best?
No disrespect intended, but don't you mean, "recovering" addict? Once an addict always an addict, you might be clean now but their is always the possibility of relapsing. Vanity and being too confident leads to making bad decisions.
@@realdeal2283 why even feel the need to say that ?
@@bohemianamy3270 because I fucking can and it's the truth that's why. Get over yourself
Yeah Xanax is dangerous....A friend of mine woke up in a cell after taking a few bars and didn't remember anything and thought he was there for a warrant he had for not going to municipal court for a small offense so he said to a CO "when am I going to see the judge so I can get OR'ed or get bailed out" and he told me the CO laughed in his face and said "you ain't never getting out, you m*rdered your wife" his wife was driving while he was in the passenger seat and for God only knows why he began to repeatedly st*b her then sl*t her throat...he doesn't remember a thing and he has a violent criminal record but to other men in the streets, never to woman and kids..and I was friends with them both they were actually on the way to my home when it happened and I know you never truly know what goes on behind closed doors but from what I saw they treated each other good and we're happy....it still breaks my heart and will for the rest of my life
I gave birth to my first ever child on April , after her birth i wasnt really feeling depressed but a couple days later after i came home from the doctor's i wasnt feeling great, i was feeling depressed and i had thoughts of self harm to myself. Never once did i think about hurting my baby or doing something bad to her. Even when i do get tired and frustrated whenever she doesnt sleep. I handle her with love and care always. I love my daughter and i couldn't ever hurt her.
It’s horrible how much pain victims can be in and there attacker will still assault them, dead or alive, a child or and adult. It’s horrific
Excuse my grammar I’m dyslexic
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@@MonolithicCyanTsunamiwomen have done it too. We aren’t as blameless as stats used to say and now according to newer and more comprehensive studies it’s still only something like less than 20 percent of violent crime is done by women but that’s still a lot of ppl.
Just humans, being all human-y.
@@MonolithicCyanTsunamiidiot comment
Being an Australian I remember the Jill Meagher case very well and how her disappearance scared the community of Melbourne. I have always been on the side of the death penalty when it comes to cases where there is absolutely no doubt that the person committed the crime and that the crime involves children or despicable acts of violence, abuse, torture and the perpetrator committing unspeakable acts against the victim and/or their body. Thanks for posting another great video, you never let me down when I need to watch a case or cases presented in a professional, respectful manner to all involved. Take care and stay safe from your Aussie friend Ann xoxo 🇦🇺🤠🏡👏💙
The ABC are bad but she didn't deserve that
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I like how easy it is for somebody to take an innocent person's life, but then they do everything they can to avoid death themselves.
yeah, like, they don’t understand that the victim was actually feeling the same… fear of death
Ikr! It makes me even more angry when I see someone who committed a vile crime and then cries when they get a long sentence or battered by someone in jail. I’m like, you got a feckin cheek after what you did!
Yeah I don’t get it. Especially with serial killers.
Yep. Complete cowards when they have to pay for their crimes.
I worked nights. My wife worked days. I would get home and then watch my son. While my wife worked. He started teething and would not just STFU. I got flustered with him, I put him in his crib and told him "I love you, but I'm about to snap...so daddy is gonna have a smoke, you sit here and cry" Never completely lost it. He's 25 now, and is a corrections officer.
My grandson was born at the time Jill was dying … I remember early in the morning after watching him be born Facebook posts looking for her .. then after it all came out realising my grandson came into the world as she left .. pretty surreal RIP Jill ❤
I have experienced PPD with my Best friend!
That’s shit scared the living shit out me, They can’t help it. But she Felt only disdain and anger towards her Son! She didn’t want him and blamed him for all what was wrong!
Luckily the nurses and me alongside close relatives, so she was immediately admitted to the psychiatric hospital! She was treated for about 2 weeks, her son came 2 days later!
She needed a lot of support but she overcame it with the support from us and the Hospital.
She is the best mom in the world, she still has trouble accepting that it wasn’t her fault!
At least she didn't murder her baby
If she was as stunted in intelligence as you are, I wish her child the best of luck.
It would be quite a study of all the hormones that flood our systems before birth and then they recede as abruptly. What that does in combination with sleeplessness? My husband was so scornful that I agreed with him, ‘What IS wrong with me?’ When that ‘s ridiculous. The point is that it IS. We don’t need to hear something that shames us more! I would practically sleepwalk, not remembering what I had done for hours at a time and anyone I turned to, made me a monster, ‘How can you feel THAT way???’
@@judywright4241 that’s why it’s so insanely important that it’s treated as fast as possible! By professionals.
And when noticed That action is taken right away, and not something that is postponed by thinking it goes away by itself!
Because the normal response is “How is it possible you feel that way, that’s insane”
I can’t help but feel it’s nature saying “DON’T REPRODUCE”
Ever since my son was born in March, any story with a baby resonates heavily with me and its insanely difficult to hear these kinds of stories
I think us men need to be more open about our womens mental health after having or carrying children.. sometimes us men are afraid that something is wrong in the relationship that we can’t fix , we don’t realize that support and time away helps a mother so much we gotta start looking at the mental stability as a battery .. sometimes when the batteries die , you gotta recharge them and then get back in the game when they’re fully charged up
Speak for yourself. I am a father and have many friends that are the same. I don't think you know wtf you are talking about. Afraid to give space to a spouse that is stressed out? I think you should stay in your lane and don't speak on things that you are ignorant about. And never again encompass other men in your delusional opinions.
@@realdeal2283Did I read a different comment than you did?
@@wmluna381 don't know Luna... did you?
@@realdeal2283 I suppose reading comprehension is for some and not for others.
@@wmluna381 once again... speak for yourself lol. I'm sure my ten year old is better at comprehending than you are lol! Also... reading Comp isn't "for some people and not for others". We are taught that in middle school and your typical b.s assumption was pretty flaccid 😂! How much you want to bet that you're femenist brain will come back with an insult pertaining to me and the word flaccid lmao. Don't lie... as soon as you read that the first thought you had was... yeah I bet you have that problem huh 😂
14 weeks on this earth and so much poor Dylan suffered. R.I.P. little one. 💔
She must be a Dem. They love doing this to children.
Sadly none of these cases are different from thousands of other cases. It is overwhelming how many murderers are out there. Most never being caught.
Now imagine all of the poor babies who will be born into this world by moms who would have otherwise gotten abortions. I don’t want to get political here, but sadly I foresee a huge spike in tragic stories like this to come, now that Roe vs Wade will be overturned in many states. In a perfect world, everyone would have safe sex and accidental pregnancies wouldn’t occur… in a perfect world, women wouldn’t get raped and/or become victims of incest… and there wouldn’t be women who are victims of sex trafficking which can result in unwanted pregnancies. Don’t forget all of the women who get pregnant at extremely young ages, who haven’t even finished high school yet and clearly aren’t prepared for motherhood…or women with severe mental illness who become pregnant and are incapable of being responsible, loving mothers..So many different scenarios.. what about instances where you find out that your baby has seriously debilitating physical ailments and a woman does not want to bring a baby into this world only to suffer and live in pain. Sorry, these stories just evoke a lot of fear for the future of our country, with the recent ruling and all.
So its better to murder a baby?
That fit you hear from Alexandra while she’s on the phone with 911 are mostly cries for herself. She knew she was going straight to prison.
Department of Child Services are a JOKE!!!! They don't care at all!!! Most of the people are who cares , there are so few that DO CARE...SAD. IF Alexandra had her MOM to help her, this might NOT have happened... So SAD....
I've noticed shaken baby syndrome seems to prevalent among young, immature mothers. It's such a shame that your parents and society teach you your whole life to use protection or abstain because being a parent is hard and basically the end of your independent life but it never seems to land.
I'm glad these vids exist. He brings up post mortem depression and me and my wife are trying for a baby. We've had our tiffles and I'm relieved to know she may get PMD and I know what to do know
Perfect timing😩
Nothing but candlelight right now.
During loadshedding (powercut).
What is uuuup EWU Crew!
from Cape Town, South Africa 🇿🇦
Not a bad way to kill time while the power is out! Hope it gets restored for you soon! 🙌❤️
Hallo beautiful Cape Town! Been there several times. Just back from Durban, where we had those awful floods. Love SA and it’s beautiful people.
@@dragonmummy1 just out of pure interest, where are you from?
How’s having no water
Or power
Postpartum depression may be caused by a lack of nutrients as the baby take priority when the woman is pregnant leaving sometimes dangerously low in certain nutrients, especially Omega 3 and the B vitamins.
Oh joy! So great seeing you uploaded a video, thank you so much. I hope you are all doing well EWU crew❤ Love y'all
It’s obvious Alexandra had postpartum depression - she clearly wanted to be the perfect mother and, when she found herself feeling inadequate, hid it from everyone. I had PPD. It’s brutal and the shame is overwhelming. I never wanted to hurt my babies but I felt like an absolute failure as a mother for feeling so depressed when I was supposed to be overjoyed. I went to therapy and got back on the meds I’d discontinued during pregnancy. Please PLEASE ask for help - PPD isn’t a statement about your qualities as a mother - it’s chemical. Talk to someone. You can’t get over it easily alone. Don’t torture yourself like that - so many of us have been through it and will gladly be supportive. You’re still a good mom and you still love your baby ❤
Having dark thoughts isn't a crime, tell someone.
Do anything you can before it builds , it can be helped.
You are not a monster for having thoughts, you can't always control what you think but you CAN control how you act
Thank you for this empathetic response. You are absolutely spot on.
@@-._.-KRiS-._.- I think people today think that having thoughts like that makes them a bad person or a psychopath. You and no one should perform can control what your brain thinks that you can't control how you act. Just try to talk to someone
There’s a difference between intrusive thoughts and actually having an urge to do those things.
I absolutely agree with you
Having a thoughts is not a crime but acting on them is
Underrated comment right here. 👏👏👏🎯🎯🎯
You started to worry me there guys!! Two weeks!! So glad youre back and Im sure this video will be the best yet!!
I suffered the Jefferson fracture. It literally shattered my c1. Of course that was when I was a baby and when I was 11 months old I then was burnt 100% of my body and left her dead for 3 Days in the hospital. That is where I met the lady that is my guardian angel today as I am 52. After years of neglecting surgeries and bones dislocating from the skin not growing fast enough because it was severely damaged, the heart and lungs didn't look good so I was given 18 years to live. They said I was in the shape of an 88-year-old man. I even have the onset of workers back, the broken down fingers, the heart and bone structure was crazy. When I was 9 the school finally asked if my hand hurt. LOL my hand? My whole entire body is burned! I've been said nobody can hurt me more than I already am hurting. That's why I stood in the middle of the circle of kids trying to beat me up so well
What??? What are you talking about?
@illicitlitmisfit I was confused too until I realized he’s a $hitty troll who likes to joke about babies who get violently shaken to death. AKA a waste of time, breath, and flesh. Don’t even piss in his direction.
I'm sorry for your pain.
@@AliValentine143 I have been blessed by God and pain is only a sign that I am alive, it lets me know what I need God's help with and weakness is leaving my body. My pain is what brought me to God and my pain is my gain.
It is my sorrows, weakness, my WILL and my unconditional love for God's creations that gives compassion to my enemies and my urges to teach Jesus's message. Give no acknowledgment to no man woman our book for none of these things can bring you the word of God but he, Himself. Pray to Him and seek enlightenment and understanding of all He created. Ask for the strength and power to create His will, to beckon His call, to bestow His WILL in your hands.
I was given my man 18 years to live. God gave me everything that I asked for. Nobody to inflict pain on me, nobody to scare me, nobody to worry me, nobody to harm me or anybody I I love, the strength and power to wield HIS WILL, the Knowledge to keep me alive, the knowledge to keep those around me alive, the power to rebuke and to understand everything HE created so that I too so I can see clear. I asked HIM to let me feel my pain so that I can fix myself. I am 52 now. Many people has doubt my life experiences but I doubt there life experiences because there is no right without righteousness.
May God bless you with my WILL
Nice fiction, when a book coming out
These types of stories really really get to me. I can't listen to these too often.
Same involving children and animals!
for me it was the animals
My older brother was colic. He basically cried every moment he was awake for the first year of his life. My mom's husband at the time was an alcoholic so she was essentially a single mom and only 22 at the time. She ended up calling CPS on herself because she was convinced she was going to snap and kill him. Instead of judgement, they assigned her a social worker who would come by a few days a week and take him out for a few hours so she could sleep and just have some quiet. Made an insane difference. There needs to be more support like this for new mothers.
I suffered from PPD twice with 2 of my 4 babies. I sought help and was put on medication and had help and support. Never once thought about harming my babies , although I did feel like harming myself. Please, ladies, if you have any thoughts of harming your baby or yourself after giving birth, Get help right away!! There is treatment and hope!
If mental health could be sorted out a lot of these crimes we see and hear about would never happen. Hope there is a cure soon.
You can't just "cure" mental illness. For most its management with medication, therapy, and having a support system. But in most countries all of these cost hundreds if not thousands of dollars.
it is called euthanasia
@@_.-._.-. Do people not get it?! What about finding a graph of use of chemical substances over time per country (all uses, food, prescription drugs etc) and try to see if you find any corelation with mental illness, or even illnesses in general...
A simple "all diseases graph" search shows you that EVERYTHING skyrocketted in the 70's. Can't people connect these dots?!
Did you even know that there is no scientific proof that anti-depressants work? Did you know that there is no scientific proof of depression? Oh yes, it exists, but we don't know why, physically speaking...
Chemical substances are the reason why everyone's sicker. Check a graph, there is a clear inflection point that is impossible to deny. Something changed in the 70's, you cannot miss it.
The last time I was sick, I was living at my parents' house. I left the house, never bought or used a medicine and I've never been sick, not even a single headache... I'm 36 years old now... 19 years without a single pill, 19 years without a single ailment... Connect the fµcking dots...
Sick people don't need more chemicals, they need less.
Don't you find that odd that no one who's born after 1970 is a hundred years old?! (
Don't have a child with a nutty woman
Though most are mentally ill nowadays
Thats why he said he HOPES for a cure. Not that there is one@_.-._.-.
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See the problem with the first story, when they say she was neglected and abused and that was the reason she killed her baby is bs. I was abused and neglected by my mother growing up, and I’m an amazing mum to my kids. You just have to have the mindset that you won’t let others suffer the way you did.
Well, I am so grateful that you cleared up that Fishville/Farmville issue….
It takes a special kind of stupid for someone to incriminate themself over a prison phone call, considering they make it VERY clear that every single call is monitored and/or recorded.
I don't think stupidity comes into it. She was an extremely disturbed individual who carried out a heinous act on her own child. She seems conflicted between accepting responsibility and reducing her responsibility.
Her sentence (50 years) seems excessive giving her own childhood experiences, without which I doubt she'd have ever carried out this crime.
PPS is a real and terrifying thing. She was struggling and couldn't reach out for help.
@@simonw1313 doesn’t matter what her background is, it should never be considered 🤬🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
@@lynnetrathen4587 - it should be considered at sentencing.
@@simonw1313 Why??
Thank goodness we clarified it was Fishville.
Lol
The poor families of these horrific and grotuisic crimes. My heart and prayers go out to you all! I can't begin to imagine or want to imagine how horrible you all must feel. I got love for you all, God bless.
I had postpartum depression after my son's birth. I woke up and went to bed every day feeling like I was a horrible mother and my kids were better off without me. Slowly I came out of that way of thinking and when my son was about 3 months old, I didn't have anymore thoughts like I had previously. That was 10 years ago, and I still have never had those thoughts. Postpartum depression is a serious issue.
Going for a run and never coming back. A tale as old as time
Hi EWU. Thank you for your content as always.
I recently began work at a hospital for people who have schizophrenia and personality disorders and realise there must be so many people living undiagnosed and untreated in the community, which is scary. The delusions and halucinations are so real to them and sometimes cause them to feel threatened or angry or afraid of things or people, causing them to react in unpredictable and sometimes violent ways. I bet many crimes are committed by people suffering from untreated mental health illness and could be avoided if they had got help sooner. Truly evil people are also common though and cannot be treated, they are also manipulative and are the most terrifying of all!
You've obviously never been to jail because 3/4 of the people in there are mentally ill with some kind of problem. Mental illness is the not talked about elephant in the room.
Been noticing too many people saying 'assault' when they mean 'rape'. Stop downplaying rape, guys.
This really winds me up too.
In complete fairness, in the case of UA-cam using the term ‘rape’ is more likely to make videos demonetised than the term ‘assault’. I’m sure there’s no intention on downplaying rape.
it actually kind of makes it worse that they choose to say "assault" if it's because of monetization because then that just means they care more about making money lol. there are content creators out there who say rape but bleep/silence the word.
"assault" could mean anything. "he assaulted her." okay, sooooo he hit her? he strangled her? he assaulted her in the strictly legal sense and made her THINK he was going to hurt her?
✅✅✅ I have nothing to add; you're spot on.
It's also annoying when they say..."incident/accident 🤮🙏
I really want to give praise to Quakes wife and mother for coming forward when they could do what many people do and cover up something wretched a loved one did. They’re special, rare, and people with true integrity. If no one lose has told them, they did the right thing.
I love that you state how things could be prevented and what to do if you are in certain situations.
#1 channel besides John Ballen and Mike oh so hard to choose.
Im with u ,those 3 are the best🤣
I wonder if Alexandra has misophonia, and maybe wasn't aware of the condition. I have misophonia, and it's a horrible condition. It basically translates to "hatred of sound", and it's an imbalance in the brain that certain sounds will cause your fight or flight reflexes to kick in. You have no control of the immense rage, hate, depression, etc... All negative emotions piled on you at one time.. When it's triggered. I'm not saying there's an excuse for what she did. She lied, and it sounds like she's a horrible person. But there are levels to miso, with the lower levels causing a mild irritation with the fight or flight reflexes, and the highest level causing an outburst of hatred and anger. Your blood boils and you'll do anything to stop the sound that's setting you off. It does not however, turn people into killers.
Now if you combine miso with other mental conditions.... Well that could be a recipe for disaster...
I'm just picturing Jill's last moments as she's screaming for her life being assaulted and I am just so haunted...
Every child deserves a parent, not every parent deserves a child.
“It told that she was not only being dishonest, but likely wasn’t telling the truth” 😁 I adore this channel