Great analogy, Ross: electricity circuit X brain. I could understand better why sometimes it goes off and we dissociate. It makes sense: it is just too much to handle.
Thank you Dr. Ross. I'm gonna get your book soon. I've found out about my abuse about a year ago but am only now making steps to recover. Finding out is only the first part of the recovery process. Keeping a daily journal of how you get 'triggered' that day is very useful.
I don’t believe in coincidence. If it wasn’t for his family history and narc parent, Ross would never invent these ground breaking methods that are helping thousands of people! Thank you Ross
Great presentation - I learnt a lot more about how the brain deals with different levels of trauma and how that affects us......now to unpack some of that unhelpful storage....
I remember most of the traumas like videos with no sound, no emotions. Like waves on the ocean all of my relationships were with narcissists of one type/degree or another and dismal failures. Although a lot is very well understood cognitively now I still struggle to stay present in my body and allow all of my emotions to express fully. A real work in progress but definitely still challenging to just allow, trust, and quiet the ever vigilant survival brain.
I feel like narcissistic abuse and bullying should be taught in all elementary and high schools to warn us and prepare us for the risk of being abused later on in society, government, workplace, family, relationships, friendships etc.
I notice that after all the severe trauma I've been through in my family life (still living in the same house as them) and my boyfriend is in my space, sleeping in my bed (boundary violation) even though its normal for a couple to share the same bed, if someone is in my bedroom while I'm focusing, writing, researching I feel judged and violated...but every time he is in my presence my mind goes into a state of fog, jelly, I cannot focus because I instantly feel like there is a threat attacking me. And one day he will sleep downstairs on the living room couch and give me my entire bedroom space free to myself. I feel like crying out of joy when he does this. I can dance, I can sing, I can write, I can make vlogs of healing of my abuse, I can look back on photos and memories and try to piece together what happened. I feel clarity and joy. and I love him very much, but sometimes his work schedule changes and I have to have him sleep upstairs because my sister's kids are too noisy downstairs at like 10 am or 11 pm and he can't fall asleep on the couch, so he has to come upstairs in my room. And, that same threatened feeling creeps in down my neck like I am being watched, judged and that I am bothering him with my typing or, if I walk around the room. I can't feel at peace or comfortable in the presence of another human being in my bedroom space and it gives me these rage chills of Cortisol that go down my spine and back and I freak out and become this uncontrollable crybaby or monster and out of all the fear and PTSD I just can't function. Sometimes I even go numb and just sit at my desk not moving for hours, I am so debilitated that I can't even get up to eat or use the bathroom I will just sit there like a zombie or a piece of jello - just feeling so numb and like I cannot move. Like if I move a muscle I'll be yelled at - or someone will come knocking on my door to be quiet like my sister's boyfriend. I have major Throat Chakra/Thyroid issues. Where I feel like I am not worthy of speaking, but at the same time I cannot speak and cannot be heard...or it feels like that. So whenever I talk I strain my voice like a cartoon character, so to hope that someone actually pays attention to me. Its put such a strain on my voice. I miss talking in my sweet, sexy young voice that sounds like a lullaby. This voice I have is sharp and butch, masculine, angry, forceful. Hoping the receiver hears my wish for my boundaries to be respected. I am just confused. I have no idea what is going on. Sometimes I even think I am the narcissist or I have become the narc but all I want is to be alone, yet I keep letting people in my boundaries and feeling like they are emotionally violating me. All I want is to have "alone time" for weeks and just rebuild myself, but I know that when ever its over I have to come back to my life, and still face the PTSD with my partner, and family since I have not moved out yet. Sorry if this sounded all over the place. I'm sure it did. Can anyone else relate to the anger outbursts/feeling threatened/brain fog/confusion/feeling unimportant and disrespected/boundaries violated?
one person in our class has three personalities in order to deal with her sexual abuse from childhood. it was both enlightening but scarey. i learned a lot in my final year of college. if she got overwhelmed shed start shutting down in social settings.
I have a doubt... if i take dissociation as detachment... SLDD have detachment towards self, narcissist have detachment towards others and in a higher degree psychopaths have zero attachment... Can we analyze to what level is detachment good... because i can imagine narcissist groomed to be detached, so do psychopaths when that nerve breaks totally towards self and others... All I'm trying to say is people think over powering someone is good... but in a long haul... they are creating monsters.... I know the difference in brainwashing and breaking people to create terrorist and the training in defense of soldiers like the seals... What is the consequences of their lives due to the major role of dissociation??? That brings to me a question: being selfless and serving someone is it wrong?? Because many tribes and nations would not have found freedom if they had not had selfless leaders is it not??? So what exactly is human evolution are we speaking of?? What is basic human mortality?? Are we changing our human values for the society and what scale does psychology use to say this is basic human value?? Does this scale change with the trend and corruption of human who are in power... Sorry! I'm more than frustrated here and wish to understand the basis of human values in psychology... so my questions if taken right is an in-depth research needed... to me you (psychology) need basic ground rules before you mess with someone's mind and trigger and then guide them into another bunch of rule... If i tell SLDD you need self love, a narcissist and psychopath have higher degrees of it is it not... so what is different that i need to teach an SLDD so he or she does not become a narcissist or psychopath... because after therapy people have to face a different reality... theory vs practical life... I've read some comments of those claiming to be SLDD, but they have crossed to the other side of narcs... What are the set standards of human behaviors and values... if we set this right many can change... Not easy!! I know.. with monsters around we do need self defense too... but the scale and understanding of being a good human is a problem around globe...
i love this guy....but the ape nonsense is just not true . .get rid of that part ..u dont need to understand how God made the brain ...just know he did ...and we can learn how it works and that your helping us heal in our messed up thinking ...in this fallen world
Speak for yourself, Doc. My family was created in the image of our Creator, for His pleasure and purposes. We will not escape injury or trials because of this knowledge, but we WILL gain access to much-needed forgiveness, redemption from infantile/animal self-orientation which prevents the fulfillment of our purpose. Spiritual Life 2.0 has prerequisites (though we are allowed to rebel against God and take part in physical evil, such as abortion, prostitution, etc....the depravity and harm caused by spiritual evil is beyond our comprehension and we are restricted from it by YHWH Eloheinu)...unlike the physical life we were all given as a gift of opportunity to KNOW our Creator and accept His invitation to the eternal Spiritual fellowship with Him that He offers...with holy terms that cost Him everything, but costs us nothing more than that we LOVE TRUTH. 2Thes2:9-11 is the other alternative that is required to satisfy a microscopic level of propriety, but if we choose to reject Truth, we WILL get what we asked for: separation from the Source of all creation and Truth. Add TRUTH to your research and the results will be supernatural. The injuries and all pathology is quite natural.
I love the moments when i have a clear mind it feels so great even if it’s just for a few minutes.
Love and light to you Dr. Ross!
Finding your channel has been exactly what I needed. Binge watching. All too relatable...
Great analogy, Ross: electricity circuit X brain. I could understand better why sometimes it goes off and we dissociate. It makes sense: it is just too much to handle.
Thank you Dr. Ross. I'm gonna get your book soon. I've found out about my abuse about a year ago but am only now making steps to recover.
Finding out is only the first part of the recovery process. Keeping a daily journal of how you get 'triggered' that day is very useful.
This work absolutely strikes true Mr Rosenberg. Thank you for these excellent explanations.
I don’t believe in coincidence. If it wasn’t for his family history and narc parent, Ross would never invent these ground breaking methods that are helping thousands of people! Thank you Ross
Great presentation - I learnt a lot more about how the brain deals with different levels of trauma and how that affects us......now to unpack some of that unhelpful storage....
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for this, Ross. I loved your analogies that made it very relatable, when sometimes its hard to understand being in all of this brain fog.
Fantastic expectation. Thank you.
Thank you so much. It has explained a lot.
This is pretty deep..Getting to the childhood trauma its a scary thought.
I remember most of the traumas like videos with no sound, no emotions. Like waves on the ocean all of my relationships were with narcissists of one type/degree or another and dismal failures. Although a lot is very well understood cognitively now I still struggle to stay present in my body and allow all of my emotions to express fully. A real work in progress but definitely still challenging to just allow, trust, and quiet the ever vigilant survival brain.
Wow. This is so helpful by itself that I am going to buy the whole seminar.
This is genius. I am suddenly making connections all over the place that are blowing my mind.
Haha perfect last seconds of the Titanic. How relieving is to see this animation describing perfectly our toxic dance with the narcs.
Thank u Ross
I feel like narcissistic abuse and bullying should be taught in all elementary and high schools to warn us and prepare us for the risk of being abused later on in society, government, workplace, family, relationships, friendships etc.
Indeed
That way we can spot em and isolate...
One more hominid for extinction...
Why isn't this taught!
I notice that after all the severe trauma I've been through in my family life (still living in the same house as them) and my boyfriend is in my space, sleeping in my bed (boundary violation) even though its normal for a couple to share the same bed, if someone is in my bedroom while I'm focusing, writing, researching I feel judged and violated...but every time he is in my presence my mind goes into a state of fog, jelly, I cannot focus because I instantly feel like there is a threat attacking me. And one day he will sleep downstairs on the living room couch and give me my entire bedroom space free to myself. I feel like crying out of joy when he does this. I can dance, I can sing, I can write, I can make vlogs of healing of my abuse, I can look back on photos and memories and try to piece together what happened.
I feel clarity and joy.
and I love him very much, but sometimes his work schedule changes and I have to have him sleep upstairs because my sister's kids are too noisy downstairs at like 10 am or 11 pm and he can't fall asleep on the couch, so he has to come upstairs in my room. And, that same threatened feeling creeps in down my neck like I am being watched, judged and that I am bothering him with my typing or, if I walk around the room. I can't feel at peace or comfortable in the presence of another human being in my bedroom space and it gives me these rage chills of Cortisol that go down my spine and back and I freak out and become this uncontrollable crybaby or monster and out of all the fear and PTSD I just can't function. Sometimes I even go numb and just sit at my desk not moving for hours, I am so debilitated that I can't even get up to eat or use the bathroom I will just sit there like a zombie or a piece of jello - just feeling so numb and like I cannot move. Like if I move a muscle I'll be yelled at - or someone will come knocking on my door to be quiet like my sister's boyfriend.
I have major Throat Chakra/Thyroid issues. Where I feel like I am not worthy of speaking, but at the same time I cannot speak and cannot be heard...or it feels like that. So whenever I talk I strain my voice like a cartoon character, so to hope that someone actually pays attention to me. Its put such a strain on my voice. I miss talking in my sweet, sexy young voice that sounds like a lullaby. This voice I have is sharp and butch, masculine, angry, forceful. Hoping the receiver hears my wish for my boundaries to be respected.
I am just confused. I have no idea what is going on. Sometimes I even think I am the narcissist or I have become the narc but all I want is to be alone, yet I keep letting people in my boundaries and feeling like they are emotionally violating me.
All I want is to have "alone time" for weeks and just rebuild myself, but I know that when ever its over I have to come back to my life, and still face the PTSD with my partner, and family since I have not moved out yet.
Sorry if this sounded all over the place. I'm sure it did. Can anyone else relate to the anger outbursts/feeling threatened/brain fog/confusion/feeling unimportant and disrespected/boundaries violated?
one person in our class has three personalities in order to deal with her sexual abuse from childhood. it was both enlightening but scarey. i learned a lot in my final year of college. if she got overwhelmed shed start shutting down in social settings.
I have a doubt... if i take dissociation as detachment... SLDD have detachment towards self, narcissist have detachment towards others and in a higher degree psychopaths have zero attachment...
Can we analyze to what level is detachment good... because i can imagine narcissist groomed to be detached, so do psychopaths when that nerve breaks totally towards self and others...
All I'm trying to say is people think over powering someone is good... but in a long haul... they are creating monsters....
I know the difference in brainwashing and breaking people to create terrorist and the training in defense of soldiers like the seals...
What is the consequences of their lives due to the major role of dissociation???
That brings to me a question: being selfless and serving someone is it wrong?? Because many tribes and nations would not have found freedom if they had not had selfless leaders is it not??? So what exactly is human evolution are we speaking of?? What is basic human mortality?? Are we changing our human values for the society and what scale does psychology use to say this is basic human value?? Does this scale change with the trend and corruption of human who are in power...
Sorry! I'm more than frustrated here and wish to understand the basis of human values in psychology... so my questions if taken right is an in-depth research needed... to me you (psychology) need basic ground rules before you mess with someone's mind and trigger and then guide them into another bunch of rule...
If i tell SLDD you need self love, a narcissist and psychopath have higher degrees of it is it not... so what is different that i need to teach an SLDD so he or she does not become a narcissist or psychopath... because after therapy people have to face a different reality... theory vs practical life...
I've read some comments of those claiming to be SLDD, but they have crossed to the other side of narcs...
What are the set standards of human behaviors and values... if we set this right many can change...
Not easy!! I know.. with monsters around we do need self defense too... but the scale and understanding of being a good human is a problem around globe...
👂👂. My brain 🧠 has been so hurt ...
RbM
Rescued By Mary YEAH.......I AM JUST SO TIRED......JUST EXHAUSTED FROM A LIFETIME OF TRAUMA.......VERY WEARISOME. Take care..........😢
whats up with the horns tho?
From evolution point of view narcissism is crucial for survivalist of the fittest. But now it is kinda irrelevant or
i love this guy....but the ape nonsense is just not true . .get rid of that part ..u dont need to understand how God made the brain ...just know he did ...and we can learn how it works and that your helping us heal in our messed up thinking ...in this fallen world
Speak for yourself, Doc. My family was created in the image of our Creator, for His pleasure and purposes. We will not escape injury or trials because of this knowledge, but we WILL gain access to much-needed forgiveness, redemption from infantile/animal self-orientation which prevents the fulfillment of our purpose. Spiritual Life 2.0 has prerequisites (though we are allowed to rebel against God and take part in physical evil, such as abortion, prostitution, etc....the depravity and harm caused by spiritual evil is beyond our comprehension and we are restricted from it by YHWH Eloheinu)...unlike the physical life we were all given as a gift of opportunity to KNOW our Creator and accept His invitation to the eternal Spiritual fellowship with Him that He offers...with holy terms that cost Him everything, but costs us nothing more than that we LOVE TRUTH. 2Thes2:9-11 is the other alternative that is required to satisfy a microscopic level of propriety, but if we choose to reject Truth, we WILL get what we asked for: separation from the Source of all creation and Truth.
Add TRUTH to your research and the results will be supernatural. The injuries and all pathology is quite natural.