Towing with a lifted truck WARNINGS! And a special update!
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2:22 for video title. Look I get you're excited about truck mods and stuff, but can you put that stuff at the END of the video, with a mention of it in the first little bit before the intro. Its the proper way to tag along updates for regular viewers without making new people have to scrub through looking for the title content
You can really cry cant you?...
I have a 6" lift on a Nissan Titan XD. I added airbags on the rear to prevent tail-dragging. Tires stick out maybe 2" (technically illegal in California). With a drop-hitch, it is very stable and tows our 8500 lb. travel trailer like a dream. You might want to try it, not just talk theoretically.
I can not express how much your videos help me.
Good lift kits try to keep the rake and build the suspension with much better than stock components. I can't comment on other but BDS has been nothing but rock solid for me and my 1500 sierra.
I use to always lift my trucks but once I started rving it didn't take long to realize that lifted trucks aren't for towing heavy. I'm a offroader at heart but rving with my family is more fun to me now. So now my trucks stay mostly stock. We have a 40' toy hauler that we take cross country often so I want stable towing more then a lift.
Good stuff. Exactly , why I refuse to modify my F350 for pulling my RV. All stock.
Factory height is perfect height, keeps truck useful instead of useless.
Factory ride height won't get me to the back of the job site fud.
Extra ground clearance is useful if you need it for the off-roading you do, but that will compromise your towing capability.
It does change the geometry but it will still tow fine. 2010 f150 with 6" lift and 35s. Tows a gooseneck and bumper pull or sway. With a nice suspension, you could make a lifted truck tow smoother than stock. Of course at some point a lift wil be to tall. A 6" lift or lower will tow no problem from personal experience and people I know. Of course bigger tires is a little power lose but that really the only negative I've found. My truck only sits a few inchs taller than a factory F350 since the 17+ is so tall from the factory. I researched the bed height before I installed the gooseneck. I don't use airbags even though they would help I just don't like the complexity but my truck doesn't squat bad enough
The tire comments hold true even without a lift. On my stock 18 F350 I put new tires on and went with a different tire than stock althoughthe same size. Hooked on to my old 5th wheel like I have a hundred times and within 5 miles I probably poo'd myself twice. I made the family ride in the wife's car cus I didn't want anyone but me in the truck
This looks to be your edition of a mix tape, with so many topics. Thankfully you addressed the issue of towing with a lifted truck. So many want to look "cool" while lifted and bigger tires, but they compromise the capability and safety of their truck. Who knows better than the manufacturing engineers who design and build these trucks? Tow ratings, stability, and safety are all thrown out the window for the sake of looking cool. I love the aftermarket, but keep your wits about you folks, especially when towing with your family. Thank you, BTBRV
I tow a lot with my 1/2 ton ford with a 2 inch lift and 33" tires.
I built my own lift kit, and before it got the lockers, big tires and lift, i had a very hard time on most of the jobsites ive worked on.
Side note, do you want pics/video of a 1/2 ton towing around 12,000lbs?
Also watch aftermarket wheel load ratings. I had a rear wheel crack while towing my 34ft 5th wheel on the highway causing a leak which lead to a flat tire on the side of the highway
I know that some duallies are lifted for oilfield and pipeline guys and they tow trailers to live in while gone or whatever. I've seen very few lifted duallies that do look good and Ostacruiser's is one of them it's got a 6" lift and it's got a Ranch Hand Bumper with Warn winch on front and a flatbed running 37" tires and pulls a 40' filth wheel toyhauler from Canada to Texas every spring. It looks awesome. The only way I could use a lifted dually is with a flatbed on it.
That's a sweet looking dually!
My LBZ has 6" lift with 35's with -50mm offset. Tows gooseneck with 15k with ease
I started laughing pretty good when the Suburban gunned it in reverse! Especially after the "what the heck????"
When a lift is done properly it won’t affect towing. The problem is most people don’t spend the money to properly lift a truck.
Not sure I agree. Anytime you raise the back, you change the center of gravity as well as alignment and angle of components such as your driveshaft, U Joints, and almost everything else related to the trucks original geometry. This all effects towing immensely.
The only lift I would consider is a front leveling kit. I don’t like the steep stock rake.
Agreed. I love the look of a 2 inch front leveling kit on the dually F350s. I just hope doing that doesn't affect it in the way BTBRV mentioned.
@@BlackLocustPatriot reduces aerodynamics.
Yep my dad leveled his 16 f250 and it has 35s he has a 35 foot camper it dose just fine no notice in any diff then it looks way better
Payload and tow ratings are for the truck as built. All the extra weight of the lift , wheels and tires have to be deducted. I went from 245/75/16 to 265’s . Even changed the wheels. The truck feels like I’m riding on jelly donuts. With Michelin tires. When I need new tires going back to stock wheel size and tire size. Florida has a bumper height law but for some stupid reason it only applies to half ton trucks. As far as the spike lug nut covers, it takes a special kinda person to have those.
I've seen a lot a lifted 2500s here in Cali towing massive toy haulers, I think they look badass!!!!!
You were talking about the extra sway added by taller tires. To add to that, especially on a 3/4 or 1 ton truck, you need to pay attention to the weight rating of the aftermarket wheels. I have personally seen a really nice new Ford f250 towing a fifth wheel, and the wheels failed. What you then end up with is a totalled truck that the towing company then has to pick the fifth wheel up off of to move.
I think the right amount of chrome on a truck looks perfect, can have too much chrome and become tacky quickly though.
RV park wear we live tons of guys have lifted trucks to pull there 5th wheels or TT they need the truck to go off road to work on utilities and they pull some big RV here
He didn't say it can't be done it's just a stock truck does it better. Even some of the big front replacement bumpers can have negative affects while towing.
If the hitches are adjusted to keep the trailer level, then its ok. If the nose of the trailer is pitched up under tow then you'll chew up your rear tires on the trailer and increase blowout risk.
Looks funny with a lifted truck with a gooseneck. I think the person in the red Suburban is a fan
Thank you, for the effort you put into it.
Good point on the lifted truck with towing. It seems pointless having an 8 inch lift on a dually. There is no 5th wheel or goose neck designed for that much hitch height. Although it makes for a great looking off roader.
Lift the fifth wheel 8 Inches
I'm too old for lift kit's they are for the younger generation, and not very functional for towing a 5th wheel.
I’m young for a lift kit but I tow so I can’t get one 😢
Squatting rear doesn’t always mean raising the front. The whole deal is weight removed from front axle. The more weight taken off the front axle is where most of the white knuckle feeling comes from... steering feels sloppy, doesn’t stop as well. That’s why you can carry more weight with a goose neck or 5th wheel. Bumper pull type trailers push down well behind the rear axle rather than above or slightly in front of the axle, so when towing a bumper pull your rear axle becomes the pivot point removing weight from front axle. I see people putting in airbags and timbrens, which in my opinion gives some sort of false sense of well being be cause “ it isn’t squatting” truth is if you put solid steel bars in so had zero squat your front axle weight will be the same as if was squatting. Way to combat that is put counter weight in front of front axle.
May first week pulling my fifth wheel from Bryan Texas to Corpus, had a welder behind me pulling his trailer with a F350 with 8" lift. He blew both rear tires of his fifth wheel in a very short trip.
Paulo Nascimento probably because his trailer was too high in the front, lol.
I'm thinking FORD said that they will actually lower the 2020 single rear wheel 250,350. My 17 250 is pretty darned tall at Stock. 🇺🇸
sandman62 I like how high they are. I like them Going back to the body style of the obs fords and height I didn’t really like how short the newer rounded body style was.
Ole' Red aside from the squared off fenders on the dually, how did they go back to the obs style
crutler it’s more square like the obs than the rounded 99-16 Body style was. It also sits higher like the obs than the rounded style. It’s overall more square body looking like the obs than the rounded style was in mine and other people opinions.
Only the 250 for 2020 will sit lower
What I learned today , bigger tires = bigger wheels helps with side wall sway
Thanks to these videos, conveniently, I've been piecing my truck together for this coming season of travel after every couple videos. Decided to keep my 6" lifted 2017 1500 silverado on 35's, geared it at 4.56, supercharged it, cammed it, added helper springs, added rear sway bar, added traction bars, and added 4 point Equalizer weight distribution/sway control hitch, added grille guard incase of deer strike(dont want to be stranded due to a strike to the radiator). What would you say if my travel trailer tongue weight was over weight by exactly 21 lbs?
Great vid...not so much a fan of the new GM stuff as far as looks go...but I do know that they run well for sure!
Yes they do......we have the 2018 Sierra 2500HD and LOVE IT !!!
I look at the new gmc grill and it makes me think of Mack.
The Polar Vortex must have reached Corpus Christie, the guys are dressed like they're working in Anchorage today, 32F, nearly Spring weather here. Great info!
I can tell you that it was 39F but reel feel was 30F with 95% humidity and it felt as cold as 7F did in Detroit with almost no humidity. Wet cold air stinks. Plus the owners of C&S are from Chicago and were cold.
My truck had a natural lift coming from the factory. In order to get 20 inch tires on it, it needed the lift.
Dually’s tend to do better with a 22” or 24” rim when running 35”/37” tires to reduce the sidewall and the seat associated with too much sidewall.
I really enjoyed this video and the information that you shared.
Not to mention the torque loss of larger tires/wheels
I’m fine with the height of my truck, it only sits 13 foot 6 inches. My truck and trailer is rated for 90,000 pounds
Sounds like a hotrod semi to me then a pick up
They don’t call me the snowman for nothing
@@theduke038
I thought your nickname was the bandit
madbear3512 I’m the son of the bandit but a modern day snowman
Black in the middle sections of bumper to simulate a factory arrangement? Either way it will look great!
I get why some people don’t like taller trucks especially when towing. I have a 2013 Longhorn Cummins with a 3inch BDS Coilover and 35’s. I can’t haul a gooseneck cause it’s too tall. I don’t have a drop hitch and haul hay up to 14k lbs and it pulls like a champ. Would I like to be able to pull a gooseneck? Yes but it is what it is and work with what I got
I have been on a search for a used 2003-2014 3/4 or one ton diesel powered 4WD 8' box pickup for almost a year. I don't buy new pickups and my current pickup is going on 23 years and 350,000 plus miles on a Dodge Ram V10 gas powered engine. The big issue is I want the newer truck to be stock as I do tow a fifth wheel and I want it stock heights for the fifth wheel towing. I looked long and hard for a stock suspension truck until this week. 95% of the trucks I looked at in this class had lifts, expensive tires and wheels and being lifted they were just to high to tow the fifth wheel. I have been working with a dealer salesman to keep his eyes out for a truck in stock configuration. Monday I got the call to take a look at a truck at the dealership. It was 2004 Dodge Ram 2500 diesel SLT with a 8' box. What surprised me is a 15 years old diesel powered pickup with 122,000 miles and NO modifications to the base suspension except a aftermarket tie rod shock strut. I signed on the dotted line for that truck at less then half the price of what it cost new. The only mods I plan for this truck is have the stock stereo taken out and install a backup camera and a upgraded stereo.
Thats why a Kelderman lift makes sense, lower it for towing and lift it for looks
I think the point of a lift is lost if you keep the same tire size and wouldn't wheel alignment be an issue between 2 stages of lift.
I was gonna say wouldn't a kelderman air suspension solve all the problems? You could lower it when towing (and not lose any towing numbers) and then keep it high when you're not towing
A little chrome trim? I'm ok with that. Big chrome grills? Def not for me! Good vid! In your opinion, will adding 2" spacers to the front of my F-150 affect in much in the towing realm? I'm worried about rear sag by taking out the factory rake.
You should be worried. Less rake more sag
Ray Laux I agree. I just am wondering how much and if anybody has any personal experience. I like the leveled look when not towing but not at the expense of safety and overall towing ability. And the sag looks even worse than the rake so I’ll leave it be very likely haha. This truck was made a specific way for a reason by engineers who know way more about designing and building trucks than me. Not that there isn’t room for upgrades...this just isn’t one of them, imo 😊
@@Pilot545 Rake is designed to level when loading the rear axle. No rake and the rear sags. A example of this is the F250 with it's level stance. 500lbs. of tongue weight rear is sagging with the soft springs you all want for ride comfort.
I am with you when it comes to have tires outside of the wheel well. I hate that. Others are having to get their windshield repaired from those tires throwing stone. I am also pretty much in keeping my tow vehicle stock. I am thinking about putting Air Lift suspension on my truck though. That is most likely the mod I'll do. Thanks for sharing JD and I am looking forward to seeing your new bumpers on your truck.
What would be a safe lift to be used in towing and with a bit of lift 2" or 4" inches? Thank as always very informative. I personally agree on the chrome part with you, but still like the chrome easier to clean.🌟🌟👍👍👍🌟🌟
Any lift can impact towing. It just depends on how the lift was done and using which parts.
My buddy towed a lifted 5th wheel toy hauler to match his lifted dmaxx for years. 6" procomp and blocks on the trailer.
I've been dragging a mud truck and crawlers behind a 6.5" lifted f350 dually for years. I guess it all depends on how safe you feel. I definitely do not speed......or race my buddies who are towing lighter rigs when we are heading to the locations.....that would be unsafe😳
Higher center of gravity will induce roll. It will reduce the control.
I have a 2.5 inch lift kit on my truck and it doesnt change anything except the height of the hitch.. never experienced any problems and this is my second truck with a lift and towing trailers
@@TheIzzandrew Your trucks would tow so much better without the lift. You can not argue with proven physics.
I would've bought that truck over my own dually had it been available and I knew about when I bought mine.
I like the big beefier look
Can't wait to see the bumpers. Been thinking about changing my rear bumper out. That wouldn't happen to be the 16.5ti? My truck has one but I am missing the remote to it.
Lifted trucks can tow just as well as stock if done correctly
I love the chrome on trucks
I want to see what the suburban did? Where did it end up?
Ok, serious question for you... I saw a dually the other day that had one wide tire instead of two on the rear. The one tire was probably as wide as the combined two tires. I was wondering how that might affect the towing capacity and such? It did look cool but I imagine that cool wouldn't do the trick when it comes to stability and towing. Looked like a drag racing tire on the rear and regular stock tires on the front. Wide rim too.
Thanks,
Pat
Great information bro
Well he obviously towed with it for 90,000 miles. So what’s the problem ??
This is the type of guy that keeps his miata stock.
Owners of brodozers don’t care about function only looks. And by looks, it has to look just like all the other dorks with financed wheels and tires.
The Denali looks like they put a lift kit on the hood. Look how much higher it is compared to the GMC next to it.
Question for you: I have a 2018 F450 with 245 tires in the stock 19.5’s. The only suspension mods I have are Rancho 9000 shocks and Air Lift 7500 bags on the rear.
The truck is my DD, so I keep the tires at 80 psi for comfort. Do you suggest I air all the way up to 110 when towing heavy (my boat/ trailer is right at 21,000 lbs) or should I go up to 90-100? I just got the tires so haven’t towed with them yet
Any chance you could take a measurement on your ford from pavement to top of tailgate?
Brett S. 9' stock. same as ram. or at least it may as well b
I bought a 2013 dodge ram 2500 6in lift on 37 I’ll be pulling 9300 lbs time to time how will it do what should I watch for
Lifting a tow vehicle just a few inches greatly decreases weight on axles from G force during the slightest steering changes. Gradual turning at 40mph. will remove hundreds of pounds off outboard tires.
Not a fan of the chrome myself, but I am more of a performance/off road rather than a towing guy.
Ohhhh give me free lifted truck!
Ppl don't realize now that they've lifted their truck it won't necessarily have the same tow rating or payload capacity that it did from factory. I ALSO DONT LIKE TIRE POKE as they call it. It looks sloppy.
Only Jeep Wranglers are allowed to pull that off! Although as a former Jeep owner, the tire poke was more about function. You can roll up against a revene wall and not mess up your side panels or climb walls.
@@boson285 but I off road my trucks and need to rub stuff too....
@@zollieh fair enough. It does take a lot more lift to compensate the longer wheelbase of a truck for breakover angles.
The blacked out, or murdered look, is for kids and Millennials.
Bet a few people's panties are in a wad over my opinions.
You can do what you want to your cars and trucks.
Chrome is for the older generation.
Hey what about a 3 inch or 2 inch lift?
I like lifted trucks not too crazy but think about worst case scenario they'd come in handy lets say if the area was flooded a bit
Did you have any issue with the adaptive cruise working with your Ranch Hand Legend?
Nice!!
What about lifting a semi truck. Is that even possible or worth it so you don't get stuck.
Lifted 1'
37k leave it at the dealer lot
Does the tow capability go down with a set up like this truck? And by how much?
Hi. I have a Ram 3500 6.4. tradesman edition crew cab. It’s not a dually. I would like to see a video on that truck. Thank you very much
How about you do one
I think there was one made in the last 4 months.
Do you think leveling the front of a truck has an effect on towing? I bought a used 2011 Tundra. It came leveled. I was wondering if I should change it back to stock if we get a travel trailer.
Did you find your answer? I have a 3.5 inch leveling kit on f350. Wondering if I bought a mistake
@@paulvivier1984 I have not found the answer. I haven't towed anything with the truck yet. I haven't talked my wife into us buying a trailer yet.
@@paulvivier1984 you will be fine with leveling kit. I have f250 with leveling kit and we tow 18k toy hauler with no issues. Try the 295/65r20 tires they are a perfect setup with 4088lb load rating per tire.
You should put a “skip to _____ for the main point of the video”.
Idk if he can due to sponsorships/partnerships.
If I add a 3 inches lift kit will it affect my towing or what
Do you think a 2in leveling kit on the front end of an F350 Dually would cause the problems you were mentioning, or not?
If you do not need the ground clearance leave it.
@@raylaux8295 OK. I wouldn't really need the clearance. Just thinking about raising it a bit to make it look "better."
But most of what I would be doing with the truck is pulling a 45 foot deckover and possible a livestock trailer. I expect to wait longer to get an RV.
Thanks!
The thing l don't like about that bumper it's got to big of a gap for the headlights a deer's head can hit the headlights
All these guys are treating their trucks like toys
What about lifted trucks straight from the factory dealer?
They are rated from factory.
@@raylaux8295 so it wouldn't tow as much?
@@DespairMisery Follow the factory max tow and do not exceed payload capacity and tongue weights. All factory lifted vehicles do have reduced tow ratings. media.gm.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/vehicles/silverado/2019.tab3.html#wheels_s
Are you no longer with ranchhand?
No he switched brands a few months ago. But he still recommends rsnchhand.
Yep. I'm with Road Armor now but believe Ranch Hand still make great products.
The at4 looks better than Denalis this new generation...the windows trimmed in chrome is gross
All chromed plastics... are terrible. Not a fan of chrome, but if it's real chromed metal I can at least understand some benefits.
Hi Need help... I have a 2017 GMC 2500 Denali Duramax Diesel 6.6L V8 4x4 SRW 3.73. I am trying to find out the GCVWR for this vehicle. I have checked all the websites etc. Can’t find it. I found the GVWR 10000. Payload 2466. Curb weight 6534. I tow a fifth wheel with a UVW 10297 and GVWR 12197. I want to make sure I am towing safely. I have seen your videos and they touch on this subject often. Maybe one of your viewers has this same truck and knows the specs that I haven’t four. Help is much appreciated.
You are probably around 15k max for tow capacity
Yes... I’m thinking that would be the towing capacity but what do you think about the GCVWR. Thanks for your help.
Used diesel prices are bullshit. Duallys with toys are 50-60 new. 36 for a truck that old with almost 100k is ridiculous
I bet those bumper heights ain't legal either
This guy thinks that the tire bowing out is because it's lifted or has taller tires. Ha ha ha. The tires are bowed out like that because the tires are wider then the rim. Ur theory on bigger tires cause more sway. Yes and no. That's like saying the lower profile tire u have the better for towing. Yes if u are running 40 inch tires with 15 in rims yes u would get tire sway. But is u find a medium ground u won't have sway. I have 35x12.50 tires on 18 inch rims. Single wheel and I've towed several times with no sway whats so ever. The reason the tires stick out wider is not because it's lifted. The tires stick out further so it widens the truck to compensate to the lift it has, it also minimizes sway.
Oh and about the tires swaying. If u are running the proper tires on ur 3/4 and 1 ton u will not have or get tire sway. Do u realize how thick the sidewalls are on my 35 inch tires and there not as big as most tires. If u are running a off-road tire and towing with it yes it will cause sway. But if u are running just overall bigger tires but the right tires for towing u will not have any issues. Mud tires are not made for real towing. I run ridge nitro ridge grapples and I tow great. Rated for 3k or so lbs each.
Common sense. That's why you see people who ACTUALLY tow for a living keep it stock or even lower their trucks.
I have a question for you; I put a 2.5 inch leveling kit on my truck. I’m currently running 275 tires with 18 in wheels. I’m planning on upgrading to 33 in tires with 20 in wheels. I also tow a 35 ft trailer. Will those modifications cause a problem towing?
They can cause sway. This can help be balanced by using a drop hitch as well as focusing on weight balancing on a trailer. The tires will likely cause sway though.
Big Truck Big RV
I use a weight distribution system with a sway bar and airbags. Will that make a difference?
You’ll be completely fine. Depending on what type of tread pattern you go with you may feel a notice, but overall it’s not going to impact your towing what so over.
Yes, higher center of gravity will destabilize tow vehicle and reduce control
Just don't end up like this guy,
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All the dislikes are lifted truck drivers
What the heck????
@20sec mark - helpful hint: maybe don’t shake hands with a guy while he’s got chemical resistant gloves on him to protect his hands from the nasty substances he’s handling...?😉
90k miles and lifted she's ready to blow
Who? Your mom?
No the trans the cp4 and the motor
Gear ratio too...
I personally wouldn’t tow with this vehicle either it’s a Chevy it would probably catch on fire.
When do Chevys catch on fire? I own 2 Powerstroke trucks, but have never heard of this.
Brent couldnt afford a nice truck, so dobt mind him. He just mad.
that silverado 3500 is over priced i got my 2015 silverado 3500 LT with 26k miles for 48k....got mines in 2017
Chrome on these trucks (which is fake btw) is crap.
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Men don't lift 🤣🤣
Truck is ugly as hell with that lift.
You couldn't afford it any way so dont stress.