Found the knobs on Amazon: ROZILO 11Pcs Mini MXR Style Brass Insert Skirted AMP Knobs Effect Pedal Knobs. They come in cream , black and other colors. For the larger knob, I found the following: KIAISH Set of 3 Aged White Brass Insert USA Spec 1/4" Large and Small Knobs Bass Knobs for Jazz J Bass. The smaller knobs in this set fit the tape head knob well. The pedal is so much more welcoming to tweaking now. Thanks for the tip about turning on the midi clock control. I could have read the manual, but …. Now my BeatBuddy controls the Space Echo, which then controls my Boss SL-2. I may never leave the house…
Reknobbing is a fine art, would be great to see a picture of your improved machine. Boss should be ashamed at the tacky plastic chrome :/ Meanwhile the SL-2 . . . that's a whole programmable universe in itself.
Can't say exactly because I'm always scavenging knobs and then just go hunting in my Big Box of Knobs whenever I need something. But if you look below in the comments @FatBastard1229 seems to have found some good matches on Amazon.
Im Selling my zen delay to get this one! I do like the filter a lot on the zen but no really the drive! Is the saturation on the re smoother? Do you have a preference between both? Thank you
Oddly enough they have one big similarity - they're both very playable in real time. I think the 202 is much sweeter and has more subtlety, and with obviously more complex delay patterns. It doesn't let you get as extreme as the Zen. For me the biggest problem with the 202 is that there is no stereo field, no ping pong, no spatial richness. I think it's only with the last 4head setting that there's any left-right variation. OTOH I bought and sold the Zen twice and just bought it again for the third time lol. I'm never satisfied when it comes to delay.
It's a long-press on the memory button to save to one of the four onboard slots, press memory again to confirm. Twiddle a knob to cancel. For slots 5 to 127 you need an external controller. It's so hands-on though that I never hooked up an external controller so can't help you further than that, sorry. Unfortunately the manual is a bit weak in this area as well :(
@@RichardDeHove Exactly... The manual is lacking guide on that matter. Do they mean sysex dump? Maybe something like Yamaha MDF3 or controller Midi CC like Roland A-01... No procedure? :(
@@Producer4Realz I've studied the manual and searched across many forums and have yet to find anyone to explain how to access the MIDI memory slots. Weird, especially because its one of the heavily promoted features. Just for a laugh you try BOSS/Roland support and see if you get a meaningful answer.
The MIDI spec is quite detailed. You can address each delay "head" individually but I don't know what sort of commands you could send them. If you check out the reference guide to the RE-202 on the Boss site it gives a full list.
@@8bitBarry1 For MIDI control the Strymon Timeline is hard to beat. As well as all the usual controllable parameters, even the looper is controllable just via note number. Maybe that'd be an option?
The white ones on the right actually came from my Vermona PerFourMer MkII. I ripped those knobs off to replace them with black ones. The two little black ones were from some pedal. So not much help there :( There are a couple of places with excellent knob selections though: Thonk in the UK is very good, but even a local electronics store usually has a bit of a selection.
It's always disappointing when you have high hopes for a bit of kit and it just melts away. What's changed your mind about it? I was very surprised the delay had no stereo effects. The reverb is stereo but that's not much compensation. OTOH the bass & treble controls and saturation are pretty good. I wouldn't be too down on it - give it a while and it might grow on you since it does have plenty of good points.
@@RichardDeHove I’m in a noise garage band, and I backordered this, waited 7 months, it arrived and the warp and spin buttons (or whatever they’re called): they’re so ridiculously LOUD compared to what the rest of the pedal does, using this for vocals at live shows (my prime motivation for buying it) is 100% impossible. And the volume of these effects are not only at 10x the volume of your dry signal, you can’t turn them down at all. Chinese junk.
@@RichardDeHove It does have good points. About $120 worth. The other $280 worth of “points” (like the warp sounds that are SO loud as to be unusable): that’s wasted money. What this pedal DOES do right? Any used delay pedal will do at 1/4 the cost.
@@malcolmbliss777 Yeah those "effects" are useless which I think I mentioned in the video. You'd think that would have been picked up by someone before release. I found the output level of the actual effect very low which was odd too. It's very much a Roland thing though to keep you fenced into the area they select. Sounds to me like an Erica Synths Zen might be a good fit for you? Input level, drive, filter etc Great for hands-on live stuff.
@@RichardDeHove Oooo. I love Erica. I have their db-01 Bassline. Love that synth. Right now, I’m using a Cusack “Pedal Cracker” to loop in a delay to the vocal mic. I also sometimes just use the Jamman Vocal XT, then loop a phrase and scat over that. But I was really hoping the RE202 was gonna provide that “spinning rotating lasso of psychedelic death” to my vocals that our records exhibit. No such luck, but I’m still looking. Maybe I need to check out that Erica effect you mentioned….
I gave away my old Echoplex like a fool years ago. This is a nice replacement. Just found some replacement knobs similar to yours. Also, hoping a chicken head knob will work for the head selector.
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Thanks so much for this demo, one of the best on this unit. Bravo!
Just bought the 202. this is a great tutorial especially as I intend to use with guitar or modular/synths, thanks
Found the knobs on Amazon: ROZILO 11Pcs Mini MXR Style Brass Insert Skirted AMP Knobs Effect Pedal Knobs. They come in cream , black and other colors. For the larger knob, I found the following: KIAISH Set of 3 Aged White Brass Insert USA Spec 1/4" Large and Small Knobs Bass Knobs for Jazz J Bass. The smaller knobs in this set fit the tape head knob well. The pedal is so much more welcoming to tweaking now.
Thanks for the tip about turning on the midi clock control. I could have read the manual, but …. Now my BeatBuddy controls the Space Echo, which then controls my Boss SL-2. I may never leave the house…
Reknobbing is a fine art, would be great to see a picture of your improved machine. Boss should be ashamed at the tacky plastic chrome :/ Meanwhile the SL-2 . . . that's a whole programmable universe in itself.
Where did you get those knobs from? I'd like to get a set like that for mine. Cheers!
Can't say exactly because I'm always scavenging knobs and then just go hunting in my Big Box of Knobs whenever I need something. But if you look below in the comments @FatBastard1229 seems to have found some good matches on Amazon.
That Keystep37 is sooo good!
Love your videos
Thanks AT :)
Hi, anyone know how to connect this pedal to a midi controler?? thanks
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Selling my zen delay to get this one! I do like the filter a lot on the zen but no really the drive! Is the saturation on the re smoother? Do you have a preference between both? Thank you
Oddly enough they have one big similarity - they're both very playable in real time. I think the 202 is much sweeter and has more subtlety, and with obviously more complex delay patterns. It doesn't let you get as extreme as the Zen. For me the biggest problem with the 202 is that there is no stereo field, no ping pong, no spatial richness. I think it's only with the last 4head setting that there's any left-right variation. OTOH I bought and sold the Zen twice and just bought it again for the third time lol. I'm never satisfied when it comes to delay.
@@RichardDeHove thank you so much! Yes im in the same boat, not 100% satisfied with my delay pedals. Must safe and get an echofix at some point
Hi.
How do you store extra patches with Midi? How do you recall them? Thanks 🙏
It's a long-press on the memory button to save to one of the four onboard slots, press memory again to confirm. Twiddle a knob to cancel. For slots 5 to 127 you need an external controller. It's so hands-on though that I never hooked up an external controller so can't help you further than that, sorry. Unfortunately the manual is a bit weak in this area as well :(
@@RichardDeHove Exactly... The manual is lacking guide on that matter.
Do they mean sysex dump? Maybe something like Yamaha MDF3 or controller Midi CC like Roland A-01... No procedure? :(
@@Producer4Realz I've studied the manual and searched across many forums and have yet to find anyone to explain how to access the MIDI memory slots. Weird, especially because its one of the heavily promoted features. Just for a laugh you try BOSS/Roland support and see if you get a meaningful answer.
@@RichardDeHove Hey Richard. I've already emailed them and received unrelated answer :) waiting to hear more.. maybe. Why they are hiding jt?
@@Producer4Realz If they reveal the Great Secret of the 202 then you will officially be the Space Echo Final Boss.
So there’s no control of delay time or repeats over midi?
The MIDI spec is quite detailed. You can address each delay "head" individually but I don't know what sort of commands you could send them. If you check out the reference guide to the RE-202 on the Boss site it gives a full list.
@@RichardDeHove no, there’s literally no midi CC whatsoever. Very disappointing.
@@8bitBarry1 For MIDI control the Strymon Timeline is hard to beat. As well as all the usual controllable parameters, even the looper is controllable just via note number. Maybe that'd be an option?
Where did you get those new knobs? Please give a discription so I can get some for my new RE-202. Thanks!
The white ones on the right actually came from my Vermona PerFourMer MkII. I ripped those knobs off to replace them with black ones. The two little black ones were from some pedal. So not much help there :( There are a couple of places with excellent knob selections though: Thonk in the UK is very good, but even a local electronics store usually has a bit of a selection.
nuanced jiggery pokery .. what an expression
Well, I thought "arcane folderol" was probably a bit odd.
@@RichardDeHove haha guess what Richard, nuanced jiggery pokery spoke to me and i bought the re-202 today! having lots of fun
@@Alex-pd5xc A shiny new delay always brings a smile !🎹
The knob switch was a great move! It should come like that from the factory.
It's odd isn't it - the Moog-style knobs are on so many devices and yet their ability to clearly show the knob position is very poor.
I wonder where did you get these knobs? I have the same pedal and would live to change them.
I’m actually sorry I bought the RE202. It’s all of about useless for vocals, guitar or synth.
It's always disappointing when you have high hopes for a bit of kit and it just melts away. What's changed your mind about it? I was very surprised the delay had no stereo effects. The reverb is stereo but that's not much compensation. OTOH the bass & treble controls and saturation are pretty good. I wouldn't be too down on it - give it a while and it might grow on you since it does have plenty of good points.
@@RichardDeHove I’m in a noise garage band, and I backordered this, waited 7 months, it arrived and the warp and spin buttons (or whatever they’re called): they’re so ridiculously LOUD compared to what the rest of the pedal does, using this for vocals at live shows (my prime motivation for buying it) is 100% impossible. And the volume of these effects are not only at 10x the volume of your dry signal, you can’t turn them down at all.
Chinese junk.
@@RichardDeHove It does have good points. About $120 worth. The other $280 worth of “points” (like the warp sounds that are SO loud as to be unusable): that’s wasted money. What this pedal DOES do right? Any used delay pedal will do at 1/4 the cost.
@@malcolmbliss777 Yeah those "effects" are useless which I think I mentioned in the video. You'd think that would have been picked up by someone before release. I found the output level of the actual effect very low which was odd too. It's very much a Roland thing though to keep you fenced into the area they select. Sounds to me like an Erica Synths Zen might be a good fit for you? Input level, drive, filter etc Great for hands-on live stuff.
@@RichardDeHove Oooo. I love Erica. I have their db-01 Bassline. Love that synth. Right now, I’m using a Cusack “Pedal Cracker” to loop in a delay to the vocal mic. I also sometimes just use the Jamman Vocal XT, then loop a phrase and scat over that. But I was really hoping the RE202 was gonna provide that “spinning rotating lasso of psychedelic death” to my vocals that our records exhibit. No such luck, but I’m still looking. Maybe I need to check out that Erica effect you mentioned….
I gave away my old Echoplex like a fool years ago. This is a nice replacement. Just found some replacement knobs similar to yours. Also, hoping a chicken head knob will work for the head selector.
It's much improved by a reknobbing. Sad about the Echoplex. I miss a few old synths and effects but the only one I really loved was my OG Mono/Poly.