As I have stated before, do not Arm chair these videos, learn from them. I am (was… retired) a fire fighter. I am looking at a 3 story, wood frame, commercial structure, with residential apartments on floor 2 and 3, smoke or steam coming from the roof eves, a male civilian with an extinguisher exiting the building, a female civilian exiting from the center door of the building. I learned a long time ago to not allow civilians that have exited a burning building to re-enter it. The female appears to re-enter the building and go back to her apartment. The male re-enters the fire ground to exhaust the extinguisher he has and then re exits exhausted himself. I learned a long time ago that is why you have EMS respond and have them take care of these people. Please learn from these videos, I will make you a better fire fighter!
I guess people of lower intelligence don’t much care for learning. They surly won’t take the time to actually read! Right there’s an example. The laundromat should not have residential attached. Commercial laundromat has enough risk without sleeping people upstairs! 🙄
@@canevousregardepas6042 WRONG… the door opening is venting smoke and heat. Closing it pushes or traps the smoke and heated gases… which can then flash once the door is reopened. There are plenty of other no no things in this video to learn from.
Where do I start with the PPE, SCBA and or lack there of? Who's in charge, way to many people using radios and no sector/division commanders? They stretch a second line instead of establishing a water supply that is 100 feet away?
@@gsarjos At 0:03 you see a firefighter (ff), exit the laundromat entrance, along with a tall gentleman. That ff had no bottled air, (SNCA) 0:25 resident, wearing white jacket, possibly a female, enters the apartment to the left of the laundromat entrance. Neither the officer nor firefighters stop her. 1:07 you see her exiting 2:36 two firefighters each with a hook, are seen entering the laundromat,
Their commander should be ashamed. He should be reviewing all video with his men. Company need to have more men in SCBA to evacuate and locate the source, they need a couple more in SCBA checking side 2,3 for possible alternative exits, additional windows, or people trapped, and any possible exposures (vehicles parked too close, tall grass, storage shed, ect.) Good eye!
For starters there are already two Chiefs on scene prior to the arrival of the engine. So they SHOULD have conducted a size up. Whether they did or not, who knows. The engine officer shouldn’t need to perform another size up, he should only need to direct the crew. It appears that one of the two chiefs is communicating with the engine given the fact that he is looking in the direction of the approaching engine and using his radio. It is possible he is giving them their arrival task(s) which may include the location in which he wants the first arriving engine to position. There is also a hydrant at the intersection. Many times engine companies won’t pass the hydrant (although it appears the second arriving engine is going to take a hydrant position) Through communication or by listening to the radio traffic, I’m pretty sure they knew a ladder truck was on the way in. It’s not unusual to leave the front of the building open for the ladder truck. Lastly if you notice, the construction of the building doesn’t exactly allow for a very good visual size up. The rear is built into the hillside and the Bravo side has another building in close proximity. For the Officer to have true “picture” of the building he would still need to perform a walk around.
….And what’s the sense of you can’t put either of them into place accordingly. Stretch the first line properly, have men packed up ready to go, make sure it’s the correct diameter for a commercial fire and GO INSIDE THE BUILDING. Both chiefs clearly aren’t FF’s. Probably could’ve had this with a can
@@heavy7799 they put out the fire and everybody went home so it's a win despite it not being perfect I hope they debrief and get better. It's no secret that many vollunteer Departments struggle with leadership ,training and staffing as well many don't follow nfpa guidelines unfortunately. As far as handlines you want the appropriate for the size of the fire, insurance company's can calculate fuel loads and determine how much water flowed and are making fire Departments look stuipid in court if there is unnecessary damage. Firefighters have to be about precision these days.
I lost my 3yr old kid at the laundromat. It happened so fast I was sure someone took him. I yelled at everybody in there not to leave. Looked at the parking lot, didn’t see any moving, so I made everyone check every empty machine. As I closed a dryer, I could here him talking to himself. I looked around but I didn’t see him. I holler and he answered. Then I found a loose panel between the dryers on the bottom row. I could even slide through and stand in a narrow hallway behind, used to service about 40 dryers. Scary stuff that makes a parent think the worst, and knowing how to keep them a little bit safer! Whew!
Sat here in the UK and very disappointed that 3 minutes into the video there wasn't the sound of a chainsaw or disc cutter, the normal soundtrack of US firefighting videos.
@@Og-Judy I wish the people who post these videos would say what city , township, and STATE they are from!!! IF they only knew how many duplicate names in this country there are!!a
1:20 white tshirt guy… my department, he’d be getting a day or two off for that. Ain’t no valid excuse getting out of that cab without your bunker and Scott on your back on-scene of a working structure fire. 2:01 Entering interior with venting smoke with no SCBA. That’s good for an entire tour of duty cycle suspension. Really hope these guys aren’t career crews….
You must be a short timer. Back in my time as a volunteer, you grabbed what you could and went. Air packs to go inside, yes. Outside, not so much. amazes me to watch car and brush fires where the firefighters are standing yards away but still take the time to put on airpacks and masks. We'd have the fire out before today's people even get the masks on.
@@jimgriffin9924 …and you’d be risking cancer or COPD every time you exposed yourself to that. I’m far from a “short timer”, and have been in the fire service more than 25 years. Things change and health & safety protocols evolve with time. Nowadays, we are more aware of the risks and hazards associated to this job. Not only that, the chemical composition of smoke these days is quite a bit different and a lot more toxic than it ever has been in history.
@@46fd04 yup you are correct. Every laundromat or dryer fire I gone to were from lint traps not cleaned or the dryer vent full or kinked up. I did have one from a idiot drying items that oil on them and the contents caught fire.
I’m sorry, I don’t usually armchair short videos, but…..this is pathetic on so many fronts. Why are civilians allowed to enter, and re-enter without any type of PPE? Does this FD not own SCBA’s? Door is left open, so let’s keep a fresh source of oxygen for the fire to grow. I hope this FD looks at this short pre-arrival and learn from this absolutely poor “performance”
Not a wanna be here. You can easily tell that these guys are poorly trained, or simply untrained. First of all, Chief creating a fuck ton of flow path for that fire to feed. Control the door. Opening that door will simply allow any fire to rapidly spread throughout the building. Simple fire dynamics. I saw you mentioned ventilation in another comment. This is NOT it. Ventilation needs to happen in conjunction with putting water on the fire. We don't go around smashing every window on arrival anymore. Not even to mention allowing someone with no PPE to attempt to extinguish with an ABC. Obviously there are only a few guys with packs on. I won't count it as a negative because I understand the staffing crisis that we're in, especially volly side.
Welcome to PA where training is nill.
As I have stated before, do not Arm chair these videos, learn from them. I am (was… retired) a fire fighter. I am looking at a 3 story, wood frame, commercial structure, with residential apartments on floor 2 and 3, smoke or steam coming from the roof eves, a male civilian with an extinguisher exiting the building, a female civilian exiting from the center door of the building.
I learned a long time ago to not allow civilians that have exited a burning building to re-enter it. The female appears to re-enter the building and go back to her apartment. The male re-enters the fire ground to exhaust the extinguisher he has and then re exits exhausted himself. I learned a long time ago that is why you have EMS respond and have them take care of these people.
Please learn from these videos, I will make you a better fire fighter!
I guess people of lower intelligence don’t much care for learning. They surly won’t take the time to actually read!
Right there’s an example. The laundromat should not have residential attached. Commercial laundromat has enough risk without sleeping people upstairs! 🙄
And keep that door closed, fire needs air, dont give him.
@@canevousregardepas6042 WRONG… the door opening is venting smoke and heat. Closing it pushes or traps the smoke and heated gases… which can then flash once the door is reopened. There are plenty of other no no things in this video to learn from.
@@KRiiB78 please, dont.
First line in the door, no air pack not on air smh.
Why is there only 1 firefighter off the first-in arriving engine coming off the engine with an air-pack donned?
Volunteer in probably
Small town in coal country pa. Probably the only interior certified firefighter on the truck
Legend has it 38-2 is still awaiting 38-10
Did the ambulance have a hose line and pumper?? Never seen one pull right up to the fire ground and park.
Great catch .. I was hoping to see a RotoRay.
Where do I start with the PPE, SCBA and or lack there of? Who's in charge, way to many people using radios and no sector/division commanders? They stretch a second line instead of establishing a water supply that is 100 feet away?
what video did you watch? everything you said makes no sense at all, You've been watching to many fire vids
@@gsarjos
At 0:03 you see a firefighter (ff), exit the laundromat entrance, along with a tall gentleman. That ff had no bottled air, (SNCA)
0:25 resident, wearing white jacket, possibly a female, enters the apartment to the left of the laundromat entrance. Neither the officer nor firefighters stop her. 1:07 you see her exiting
2:36 two firefighters each with a hook, are seen entering the laundromat,
Their commander should be ashamed. He should be reviewing all video with his men. Company need to have more men in SCBA to evacuate and locate the source, they need a couple more in SCBA checking side 2,3 for possible alternative exits, additional windows, or people trapped, and any possible exposures (vehicles parked too close, tall grass, storage shed, ect.)
Good eye!
Scott up enroute. Saves precious time.
Every state seems to have a ashland what state is this one ?
Was waiting for the amberlamps to park right in front of the store. lol
How come you didn't record the whole fire until they put it out?
Should turn off that "OPEN" sign don't you think?
Holding the door open before companies are on scene, nozzle man on attack company had no tank 🤔🤔🤔
Where was the squad car to block off traffic?
i thought for sure the ambulance was going to stay right in front of the building...
Ah, no. That's reserved for police cars.
Why did the the 1st due Engine stop? Go past the building so the officer himself can see @ least 3 sides of the building.
For starters there are already two Chiefs on scene prior to the arrival of the engine. So they SHOULD have conducted a size up. Whether they did or not, who knows. The engine officer shouldn’t need to perform another size up, he should only need to direct the crew.
It appears that one of the two chiefs is communicating with the engine given the fact that he is looking in the direction of the approaching engine and using his radio. It is possible he is giving them their arrival task(s) which may include the location in which he wants the first arriving engine to position.
There is also a hydrant at the intersection. Many times engine companies won’t pass the hydrant (although it appears the second arriving engine is going to take a hydrant position)
Through communication or by listening to the radio traffic, I’m pretty sure they knew a ladder truck was on the way in. It’s not unusual to leave the front of the building open for the ladder truck.
Lastly if you notice, the construction of the building doesn’t exactly allow for a very good visual size up. The rear is built into the hillside and the Bravo side has another building in close proximity. For the Officer to have true “picture” of the building he would still need to perform a walk around.
Fast deployment of handlines was noticeable, glad to see them pull two off the hop👍
….And what’s the sense of you can’t put either of them into place accordingly. Stretch the first line properly, have men packed up ready to go, make sure it’s the correct diameter for a commercial fire and GO INSIDE THE BUILDING. Both chiefs clearly aren’t FF’s. Probably could’ve had this with a can
@@heavy7799 they put out the fire and everybody went home so it's a win despite it not being perfect I hope they debrief and get better. It's no secret that many vollunteer Departments struggle with leadership ,training and staffing as well many don't follow nfpa guidelines unfortunately. As far as handlines you want the appropriate for the size of the fire, insurance company's can calculate fuel loads and determine how much water flowed and are making fire Departments look stuipid in court if there is unnecessary damage. Firefighters have to be about precision these days.
@@engineco.1494 …agree to disagree
I lost my 3yr old kid at the laundromat. It happened so fast I was sure someone took him. I yelled at everybody in there not to leave. Looked at the parking lot, didn’t see any moving, so I made everyone check every empty machine. As I closed a dryer, I could here him talking to himself. I looked around but I didn’t see him. I holler and he answered. Then I found a loose panel between the dryers on the bottom row. I could even slide through and stand in a narrow hallway behind, used to service about 40 dryers. Scary stuff that makes a parent think the worst, and knowing how to keep them a little bit safer!
Whew!
?? What is this, Facebook?
prayers sent to family and friends
Wtf? That has nothing to do withthis video or subject...lol
GEEZ OH PETES!!!!!! COULD SOMEONE ANSWER 38-02!!!!!!!!!!! Apparently, there is NO incident commander?
Sat here in the UK and very disappointed that 3 minutes into the video there wasn't the sound of a chainsaw or disc cutter, the normal soundtrack of US firefighting videos.
real smart.. go in there w no tank or air on.. you vollys kill me
Relax keyboard warrior
I agree as a former volunteer firefighter except for brush fires we masked for everything!
@@michaelsheffler5710 nice try I’m a 27 year veteran of a large career/volunteer dept - I do this for a living kid!
@@Derekva40 and me 32 years...and I'm not your kid boy
@@michaelsheffler5710 volunteer doesn’t count punk!
Turns out that is was Cheech and Chong smoking a dooby in the back room. All white smoke.
Boooooooooooooo!
Why aren't you guys full scba upon arrival, why wait to get on scene, makes no sense,
Ashland.....WHERE?
Ashland, PA.
great resolution, too short
2:05 chokin' on smoke, what a clown.
Ashland where? OH, KY ?
Ashland Pa.
Thank you!
I know....Seriously? We have an Ashland in Wisconsin to.
@@Og-Judy I wish the people who post these videos would say what city , township, and STATE they are from!!! IF they only knew how many duplicate names in this country there are!!a
1:20 white tshirt guy… my department, he’d be getting a day or two off for that. Ain’t no valid excuse getting out of that cab without your bunker and Scott on your back on-scene of a working structure fire.
2:01 Entering interior with venting smoke with no SCBA. That’s good for an entire tour of duty cycle suspension.
Really hope these guys aren’t career crews….
You must be a short timer. Back in my time as a volunteer, you grabbed what you could and went. Air packs to go inside, yes. Outside, not so much. amazes me to watch car and brush fires where the firefighters are standing yards away but still take the time to put on airpacks and masks. We'd have the fire out before today's people even get the masks on.
@@jimgriffin9924 …and you’d be risking cancer or COPD every time you exposed yourself to that. I’m far from a “short timer”, and have been in the fire service more than 25 years. Things change and health & safety protocols evolve with time. Nowadays, we are more aware of the risks and hazards associated to this job. Not only that, the chemical composition of smoke these days is quite a bit different and a lot more toxic than it ever has been in history.
hwhat??
SCBA never heard of em
Too many Chiefs not wearing air packs, no sense of a command structure on scene....
Landromats always smell of gas leaks.
Most laundromat fires are caused by overheating dryers due to blocked exhaust pipes from excessive lint build up.
@@46fd04 yup you are correct. Every laundromat or dryer fire I gone to were from lint traps not cleaned or the dryer vent full or kinked up. I did have one from a idiot drying items that oil on them and the contents caught fire.
on one wos not hunert
I’m sorry, I don’t usually armchair short videos, but…..this is pathetic on so many fronts.
Why are civilians allowed to enter, and re-enter without any type of PPE? Does this FD not own SCBA’s?
Door is left open, so let’s keep a fresh source of oxygen for the fire to grow.
I hope this FD looks at this short pre-arrival and learn from this absolutely poor “performance”
oh how I love these firefighter wanna be's ..... they watch fire vids and all of a sudden they know what to do , just shut up and watch
Not a wanna be here.
You can easily tell that these guys are poorly trained, or simply untrained. First of all, Chief creating a fuck ton of flow path for that fire to feed. Control the door. Opening that door will simply allow any fire to rapidly spread throughout the building. Simple fire dynamics. I saw you mentioned ventilation in another comment. This is NOT it. Ventilation needs to happen in conjunction with putting water on the fire. We don't go around smashing every window on arrival anymore. Not even to mention allowing someone with no PPE to attempt to extinguish with an ABC.
Obviously there are only a few guys with packs on. I won't count it as a negative because I understand the staffing crisis that we're in, especially volly side.
Yup the youtube firefighters