PRP dev here, adding a footnote regarding Corvega and the Financial District. Both areas have a known bug where the draw call count is about 3K higher (at least on my aging i7-6700K/GTX 1080 dev box) than it should be due to accidental tagging of specific references like the Corvega building itself, and as a result, the meshes aren't precombined properly. I have a lite version that fixes those two areas and the invisible wall issue outside the Boston Airport for those that need a lighter touch. As it's probably never going to be finished, bug reports welcome and encouraged.
I was just looking into downloading your mod, even though I don't use mods that break down precombines (not even sure if I have a reason to download it really), I can tell you put a lot of work in it, I did however got intimidated by the amount of conflicting mods there are with PRP considering I have a LOT of mods on But regardless, you did great buddy
Brother thank you so much. That shadow boost mod just solved all my problems. you are the only person I've seen mention it after searching for fps solutions for a very long time. Much love
Thank you for doing this video, and especially for bringing Shadow Boost to my attention. I run FO4 heavily modded at 1440X3440 ultra settings on a 4070ti and have generally great performance 120+ FPS, but with some areas where the frame rate would drop below 40 FPS with some terrible screen smearing of certain objects. Following your guide, and especially Shadow Boost, those lows are now 70+ with no loss of visual quality and no more smearing. And that's without resorting to upscaling. Cudos.
What areas specifically? I know boston is the place where i got the worst fps in vinella, so thats where i go to test if my mods are stressing out my computer or not. Currently building a load order and dont want to go to high but maybe i should be testing other locations
bro this took literally 70% load off my gpu thank u bro i have rtx 3070 and ryzen 7 5800x3D, i was running 60fps with like 15% cpu and 99% gpu, pushing 80 Celsius constantly, now im like 10% and 25% on 60 fps straight up chilling like 60 Celsius your a life saver
Awesome video! I had been having really bad problems with my fps capped and I stumbled upon this gem of a video. Great work! Watched all the way through and gave the video a like.
I would say "there be dragons" with relying on the High FPS Physics Fix to run at high refresh rates. You will find broken quests (Bobbi's dig will be one of them as Sonya's script will break, I think kiddie kingdom in Nuka World gets broken too as Oswalds script will break) and some physics still goes crazy, so be careful will it. Personally I use the mod just to unlock the loading screens since it massively improves the load times, but as for the ingame, it's honestly safer to keep it at 60 for now. Hopefully the upcoming Fallout 4 update Bethesda is doing will allow for a safe unlocked framerate.
I have done at least oswalds quest 3 times with high fps physics fix enabled and i havent had problem a single time with it. And i have play something like 300 hours with it running at 120fps and i havent see any quest to getting broken, only things that have get broken are same things that would get broken with vanilla game also.
Thank you so much! I was having serious frame issues to the point of the game being almost unplayable, but getting the first three mods and tweaking my settings fixed it right up!
Finally someone that knows what he's talking about. Not like 99% of fallout community recommending usless tweaks that aren't even used by the engine, but they thought they know what the tweak does because the name sounds familiar to them[
So for those wondering what the Fallout Priority mod is for, its for those of us who play in windows borderless. As with most systems when you play in anything that's borderless, windows does not set the game as a high priority (like in fullscreen) So it essentially increases the fps of Borderless from say 38, to 120, which is obviously a massive difference! Why do you want to play in borderless? well for me in particular I like to watch fallout lore videos or tutorials on certain sections or playthroughs while playing and tabbing out can sometimes crash the game, so borderless is the best way to just quickly tab out and pause or play a video.
Awesome guide helped me boost my FPS to where I needed it. Though, after adding the mods in Mod Organizer 2, it tanked my frames to 15-20 fps. In my case, I think the Fallout 4 Script Extender was causing this. I gave my PC a full reset and now everything is working perfectly.
Everything works for Fallout London and it does wonders, not sure about PRP as it seems like a hassle to install and my fps is a lot better with the current mods Thanks dude!
PRP won't help you in FOLON's worldspace (and I've discovered its often runs much worse than vanilla). The other mods will be a huge help though, I'm certainly using them.
Didn't know I missed a few performance upgrades mods in the nexus. Thx for making this video m8. Also for the next video request, do a player house mod battle
Hey pancorium! I saw the upscaler that you are using and that reminded me of a better alternative to this one, in fact, it is the best option for most games: Please, try LossLess Scaling, it is so much easier then using that mod, it has frame gen and it also helps with different types of upscaling!
i indeed got a little fps boost with the Priority mod! I use a i5 4670k @ 4,2 ghz and a GTX 970 using this mod + FAR + Buffout + Shadow Boost + vivid fallout + insignificant object remover and Beth.ini settings the game runs way smoother with less stutter and has sometimes over 60fps in areas where i got around 42fps before. it really helps a ton.. the difference of 42 fps and over 60 fps is insane!
14:06 Fuck... Thank god we have modders haha ! I didn't see that one coming! it had me laughing loud. I am a returned player after 4 years, and have only played 1 hour so far, because I found the game very laggy, and I found your video. EDIT: My low-end CPU and high-end GPU can now run the game on ultra setting with 60 fps and above. THANK YOU SO MUCH
Nice video! I pretty much have all of these downloaded for the most part except the upscaler. Just wanted to say there is a god rays fix bat file mod. Cheers.
Fallout 4 Upscaler didn't improve my game at all, but probably because of that CPU limit you were talking about (my gaming PC is like 7 years old at this point). Definitely going to give that Previsibines Repair Pack a try though; Boston Fixes doesn't seem to help me, and that area only runs about 30 FPS for me, sometimes with crashes. Going to give those bug fix mods a try too. I have almost 300 mods installed over the coarse of like a month now, and it never ceases to amaze me at how many useful mods I can still not know about.
@@Augoeides32 You can build a decent PC for half of that money... My RTX 3060 Ryzen 5 5600 desktop cost me 550$ to build and my RTX 2060 Intel-10750h laptop cost me 520$, yet Fallout 4 runs at 120-140fps 90% of the time on my laptop
Previsibines Repair Pack will help a lot and optimized 1k or 2k textures will also help ALOT. Also if ur using enb there will be no performance gain from the upscaler.
Have you looked at the GOG version of the game? It might have some updated bloat removal or tweaks that the Steam version doesn't. Being DRM free 'n all. One thing I've noticed is that the 'Weapon Debris' setting is absent from the Launcher.
Same here! I've come across SOOOO many forums that tell me to turn 'Weapon Debris' off, and I'm over here sayin' under my breath, "Ok, sugar tits, where the fuck is Weapon Debris located?" XD
This is all fine and dandy but the biggest issue by far is texture pop out and pop in with LOD textures not despawning causing clipping like everywhere you look especially in a virtibird. Even fresh installs of FO4 with no mods does this.
Thx man now i don't need another vids about performance u and this video is all what i need damn i watched alot of vids for this they did nothing noticeable. If mods from this vid didn't help me improve fps in my game than nothing will
But can this make it so that Downtown Boston is at least 30 fps so that that Raider camp in the broken highway next to Goodneighbor isn't blowing up my computer?
At 1440p ultra settings the game only uses 9 percent of my CPU and 40 percent of my GPU and yet I get tons of frame drops and screen tearing, 12th gen i3 and an RTX 2080 Super with 32 GBs of Corsair Vengeance 3600mhz DDR4 RAM
Very cool, but doesn't work for me at all. This is because my PC, I got for free. It was from some Chicago College that was getting rid of their old PC's and getting new ones. It won't even run Fallout 3, but does run a mildly modded Fallout New Vegas, and mildly modded Elder Scrolls Oblivion decently.
PC 7950x with 64gb ram and RTX 4090 with Gigabyte M32u 144hz. I was getting all sorta of weird super slow world movement. Had to lock my monitor refresh rate at 120fps and disable g-sync both in windows settings and NVIDIA control panel. In game settings I maxed optimized with gforce experience at highest settings. Note as there hasn't yet been fix "Weapon Debris" is set to off. I use Vortex Mod Manager. Use over 33 mods all not using Fallout Script Extender so FOSE4 doesn't break as updates happens. Fresh install with full dlc and 4k high resolution texture packs. So notice a few "new bugs" like long load times, maybe some anti-aliasing flashing. Most part be bug free as I've leveled to 40 on my way to Diamond City. Not rushing main quest. I was choosing better quality then FPS. still getting mostly close to solid 120. Not depending on FOSE4 mods. the game incorrectly detects monitors that are set to refresh rates above 120Hz as being set to 120Hz it can result in the game moving too fast. It is advised to keep the default settings and play the game with a 60fps cap. The fps cap that the game uses is determined by your monitor refresh rate (typically 60Hz or 120Hz), and dividing it by the "iPresentInterval" value. To change this value, access the Fallout4.ini file located at the following location by default: C:\Users\\Documents\my games\Fallout4 If your monitor is set to 60Hz, the iPresentInterval value should be "1" If your monitor is set to 120Hz, the iPresentInterval value should be "2". Setting it to "0" uncaps the framerate and can cause the issues mentioned above. If your monitor is set to a value larger than 120Hz (such as 144Hz), we advise you to set your desktop refresh rate to 120Hz instead, when playing the game. Steps for changing your refresh rate. Right click on your Desktop. Click on Display Settings. Scroll Down and click on Advanced display settings. Under the Refresh Rate section select 60 Hz from the drop down list. Click Apply. You will be prompted to "Keep Changes" or "Revert." Select "Keep Changes." Alternatively, you can select Display Adapter Properties for the monitor you are using and change your Screen refresh rate to 60 Hertz under Monitor Settings. Click Apply when complete.
I love the spike of FO4 players awaiting Starfield, myself included. Never played FO4 until recently and I'm actually disappointed in myself for not playing it sooner!
For me it was actually wanting to strut in Power Armour and watching Fallout 4 videos to introduce me to Stratfield. My fallout 4 runs at around 20 fps in 720p so hopefully it improves From what I've seen so far starfield is very promising, I'd hace to buy a new pc before playing tho
@@manuelredgrave8348 Yeah, Starfield looks amazing in my opinion. I've played every Bethesda game except fallout 76 now. I know that these issues shouldn't exist, but the only real complaints I've seen from people that are playing starfield are weird AI glitches. I think that's a really petty thing to throw the game under the bus for. My favorite Bethesda game of all time is Oblivion and the glitches in that game were very prevalent, but it didn't take away from how amazing that game was one bit for me, if anything it would give me a unexpected laugh every so often. Same with fallout 4. The only issues I've had were with AI, and once again it was just making me laugh. My companion was on top of a tall building with me and decided to just run off the edge and was screaming from the bottom that he was hurt. Too funny to me. The stories that are told and the items that you earn are what makes these games so great, and they go into such much depth the more you play and do. Bethesda also ALWAYS has their DLC on Point. They don't release anything small, they always pack a punch with their DLC. One separate note about starfield: FO4 is 35 gigs and has a ridiculous amount of stuff to do. Starfield is 120 gigs..... I can only imagine how many hours of gameplay exist there. It's actually wild to me. As for being able to run the game, thankfully I can run everything fine at 1080p. I feel like one day I'll try and build a really nice 4K rig and play all of the Bethesda games again.
Absolutely Brilliant. You should be running Bethesda! I play offline thru ex-launcher to avoid them and their mod-traps. Thanks downloaded for going back to. Old country guy.
Stumbled upon this video after the next gen update. Does anyone know if all these mods still work? I would looooove for the game to run higher than 60. I’m doing my 7800x3d and 4070ti a disservice 🤣🤣
@@dancoelho2089 Definitely. There's talk of Bethesda releasing another update to correct the mistakes they made with this one, which will set the script extender team back another few days. It's best to stick with the old version until the whole fiasco is over.
I'm not sure if this will help on my desktop since I have about 800 mods installed but no harm in trying, I have some legacy hardware that runs Fallout just fine at high/ultra 1080p and 60fps thought a little performance improvement might help here and there. Also, do you know if these mods would make Fallout 4 use more than 4GB of VRAM at 1080p, most search results I read say that vanilla F4 just utilizes 4GB for all picture sizes but can't help but wonder if that's true or not.
ye.. but in vr, its a different beast. 4k with its 3840 × 2160 sounds like much, but thats not the case with vr. even on "medium" resolution headset like the quest 3, its 2x 2064 + 2208, so 4128x2208px panel resolution. and that just the display hardware. in order to render the image for the headset, so that distortions etc arent visible, steam vr renders higher, by factor 1.4. meaning 4128 x 1.4 = thats 5780 x 3091 overall resolution that gpu has to push. and some headset use 2880x2800 displays. vr, can chef hardware like its nothing and vram can never be enough. hell, you can get a 4090 to sweat in skyrim with mods and have its vram full
Really useful video, a lot of very useful information. However, I think your clearly very anti-Nvidia stance clouded your bit about the weapon debris settings. Currently Im running the game on a RTX 3070 at 1440 with weapon debris on ultra as well as Fallout 4 HD Overhaul 2k textures, NAC X, and Ultra Interior/Exterior Lighting. Steady 60 fps, only one CTD in 60 hours. (Which was a script error caused by a settlement mod). Still, Nvidia bashing aside, very good video and a great resource. I enjoyed watching!
Unless you're using the Weapon Debris Crash Fix mod, I don't believe you. Fallout 4's weapon debris isn't stable on Nvidia's Turing architecture or newer. Even on my old GTX 1060M I had massive lag spikes whenever certain effects occurred (but no crashes).
I dont know if i had something set up very wrong but shadow boost screwed my whole system and modlist. Wrecked my ini. Im better off without it due to manual ini changes, manually selecting load orders. Im in a massive discord with shadowofthewind hes a legendary genius and he give tips and tricks and pointers to understand modding and precombines. My fallout 4 would not work if it wasnt for him. He does recommend shadow boost if set up right but ive tweaked my inis to compensate a little for not having that feature
It depends on your definition of playable. I don't have the game yet, but I know the 7800X3D paired with DDR5-6000-CL32 is good enough for 90+ fps all the time at Ultra settings, and often well above that. The RTX 4060 will be a massive bottleneck for me. I'm not sure if I'll be able to hit 60 fps even on the lowest settings with FSR at 1080p, let alone 1440p. The game appears to be so poorly optimized it might be best for most people to cap the framerate at 30 or 40 and focus on increasing settings as much as possible, since a locked 60 will be impossible. No matter what hardware it runs on, Starfield's performance is very disappointing.
I always found FAR is just as stuttery as vanilla and I found that hein34's newest vivid fallout lod textures are a lot better. Not saying FAR is bad or anything I just found vivid fallout better for my experience.
I usually cut out God rays and lens flares. I just think there a bit much in general in this game. Then again if I can lock in at 60 and enjoy a largely crash free game then I'd be happy. Then again I'm the type who uses 1 weather mod, Skyland AIO, and RW2 in slyrim and am more than happy with that on console. But some of this is still very useful to know.
@PancuroniumB At the risk of asking a 'stupid' question. Could you please list the steps to install Shadow Boost? I have scoured the web for a up-to-date guide and found none. Also, the only instruction on the Nexus page for the mod, if you can call it that is: "Install in the "data" folder of the game..." it says you can also use vortex/mo2, but I'd like to believe it's easy enough to install manually. I've already installed F4SE and the address library for F4SE Plugins with no issues. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
@PancuroniumB I used these steps to install F4SE (it was working before but I tried it again using this vid) ua-cam.com/video/_2yb9CjcH_A/v-deo.html I'm having trouble because I didn't have F4SE\Plugins folder in Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout4\Data\ After following the steps in the video I still didn't, so I checked inside the f4se_0_06_23 folder/archive under Data and there is no Plugins folder. I might be the only one having this problem, but if you could see the video I linked and maybe figure out where I went wrong, that would be a huge help. Thanks in advance. EDIT: I got it working! When I realized I didn't have a Plugins folder, and that you made it seem like your Plugins folder was already present in Data\F4SE I backtraced and looked inside the address library zip I had downloaded. Lo and behold there was a Plugins folder beneath F4SE. I extracted F4SE into a new folder and moved it inside Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout4\Data\. Last thing I did was drag and drop the ShadowBoost F4SE folder inside F4SE\Plugins folder in Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout4\Data\ and that BEAUTIFUL BLUE MENU SHOWS! I hope going through all this and writing my troubleshooting steps here helps someone. have a nice day!
I installed all of the requiring mods for shadowboost but it wont open the setting ingame when i press F11, any ideas what to do? I double checked the right version, compatability and enabling it correctly via vortex
i was getting 80-90 fps on my 7700k + 1080ti 16gb ram but surprisingly going to 32gb with the same speed brought it up to 120+.... this game's optimization is so weird
I used some of the mods and now my game feels low gravity, things fall a little too slow and the character jumps too high too. I changed the jump max height to the default by command but everything else stays low gravity. Any suggestions?
1. Do not use godrays, that's it. 9 years on but they are still not worth it. Funny I could actually play with them on back in the day because I was only running 1080p 60fps and didn't about GPU usage. I'm running 4k 120hz with a 3080 which is several times more power than the r9 290x I had when this game came out, but now I'm at high refresh and a much higher resolution I still see every frame of performance hit. Stable 120fps with them on vs constant drops the 90s with them even on low, no thanks. *Edit* ... but you reminded me of the upscaler mod, last time I tried I just got weird artifacting straight away. Maybe I will have better luck this time and it might let me try godrays again.
Godrays are insanely intensive at high resolutions. On Ultra quality they render at your native res (or close to it), and even at lower settings, the higher your resolution is the higher-res the godrays will be. From benchmarks I've seen, the mighty RTX 4090 can drop below 100 fps in some scenarios at 4K... as long as those damn godrays are on. At 1440p or without godrays, any PC would be CPU-limited. I'm hoping for a universal FSR3 framegen mod to come out and work for all DX11 games. That would be a lifesaver for Fallout 4, since over 8 years later, it still runs like crap on the newest and most powerful hardware available.
@@PancuroniumB Truly insane, I trust tried that experiment with upscaler. Obviously even when upscaing from 1440p, performance is still way worse with godrays LOW vs off my on my 3080. And the weird scale artifacts made it not worth it, maybe if I ran performance or balanced mode it would do better, but the artifacts are already too bad at quality mode. Surely the 4090 is like 2x as fast as my 3080, no way it would still perform worse with gr on than my 3080 with gr off?! Great channel, I subbed. You know what you're talking about.
When you are using the upscaler, how do you handle the resolution settings exactly? Should I set it to 1080P in the launcher if I wanna run 1440P or should I keep it at 1440p?
Guys if you want to buy new pc in the mid range and you don't care about rtx or dlss just get rx 6700 xt/ rx 6750 xt 12gb VRAM instead of rtx 4060 because VRAM in heavy game it really helps with the texture especially at 4k Edit:and rx 6800 has 16gb and it can reach 400$ sometimes brand new that is only if you don't care about rtx or dlss
Yeah I have the 6900xtx with Radeon 5600 CPU and I have to say nothing feels sluggish slow or stuttery at all. I play maxed out and it's smooth as can be. I occasionally have some flickering textures on far away buildings in Jamaica Plains but I think that's all I can say I've noticed.
Is the high fps mod gone? I can’t find it all My character is moving so god damn fast he’s like sonic it was playing fine yesterday and now he’s super fast
If you're OK with having a Windows PC in your property, I'd rather use Steam streaming. It's pretty good. Other than that, I've seen good results using a VM with paravirtualized GPU access
I haven't considered Steam streaming yet. I do know about gpu bridging into a VM or dual booting windows but always seen that as too much work just to play a game. @@afz902k
I’m only getting around 20-40 fps on the rog ally, at 900p, it’s worse with 1080p along with all these performance mods. This is when it’s connect to my 55” tv, so when it’s in handheld mode, it’s smooth enough for me not to care. I use an 18w and 25w turbo mode to get this fps. Any tips? I’m only really hoping for like 60fps, and less studdering. I miss working with Nvidia GeForce, the AMD software isn’t as useful as Intels auto optimization tools.
I don't know much about the Ally, but disabling godrays and lowering shadow distance should be enough... from benchmarks I've seen, it should be possible to get over 60 most of the time with the Ally, even with no performance mods.
it’s frustrating bc i was trying to play FO4 on pc game pass but the more i research the better off i am just buying it on steam..i have a new high end pc and this game causes me a fkn migraine
@@PancuroniumB Do you have a load order for the mods? For some reason my Upscaler keybind (End) and the Keybind for Shadow Boost (F12) seem to not work.
@@Remynistik Load order shouldn't matter for F4SE mods. Make sure the game is actually running using the F4SE executable. type "getf4seversion" in the console, if it returns nothing you've messed up.
PRP dev here, adding a footnote regarding Corvega and the Financial District.
Both areas have a known bug where the draw call count is about 3K higher (at least on my aging i7-6700K/GTX 1080 dev box) than it should be due to accidental tagging of specific references like the Corvega building itself, and as a result, the meshes aren't precombined properly.
I have a lite version that fixes those two areas and the invisible wall issue outside the Boston Airport for those that need a lighter touch.
As it's probably never going to be finished, bug reports welcome and encouraged.
Thank you for your work!
No kidding. Ur mod is incredible
I was just looking into downloading your mod, even though I don't use mods that break down precombines (not even sure if I have a reason to download it really), I can tell you put a lot of work in it, I did however got intimidated by the amount of conflicting mods there are with PRP considering I have a LOT of mods on
But regardless, you did great buddy
I have no fucking clue what u said but It sounds like something bethesda would do
Drop a link for the mod
Brother thank you so much. That shadow boost mod just solved all my problems. you are the only person I've seen mention it after searching for fps solutions for a very long time. Much love
I appreciate how detailed and straightforward you convey information. You deserve a lot more traffic and subs because I am thoroughly impressed
Thank you for doing this video, and especially for bringing Shadow Boost to my attention. I run FO4 heavily modded at 1440X3440 ultra settings on a 4070ti and have generally great performance 120+ FPS, but with some areas where the frame rate would drop below 40 FPS with some terrible screen smearing of certain objects. Following your guide, and especially Shadow Boost, those lows are now 70+ with no loss of visual quality and no more smearing. And that's without resorting to upscaling. Cudos.
What areas specifically? I know boston is the place where i got the worst fps in vinella, so thats where i go to test if my mods are stressing out my computer or not. Currently building a load order and dont want to go to high but maybe i should be testing other locations
bro this took literally 70% load off my gpu thank u bro i have rtx 3070 and ryzen 7 5800x3D, i was running 60fps with like 15% cpu and 99% gpu, pushing 80 Celsius constantly, now im like 10% and 25% on 60 fps straight up chilling like 60 Celsius your a life saver
Awesome video! I had been having really bad problems with my fps capped and I stumbled upon this gem of a video. Great work! Watched all the way through and gave the video a like.
You've put together a great video. awesome commentary with no BS.
Your channel is an absolute gem
This video is incredibly informative and helpful. Thank you man ❤
what r u doing here pelican? i didnt know u were a fallout fan?
@ItzJustTaiBruh haha! I love fallout 4 and the fallout series! 👋😁❤️
I would say "there be dragons" with relying on the High FPS Physics Fix to run at high refresh rates. You will find broken quests (Bobbi's dig will be one of them as Sonya's script will break, I think kiddie kingdom in Nuka World gets broken too as Oswalds script will break) and some physics still goes crazy, so be careful will it. Personally I use the mod just to unlock the loading screens since it massively improves the load times, but as for the ingame, it's honestly safer to keep it at 60 for now. Hopefully the upcoming Fallout 4 update Bethesda is doing will allow for a safe unlocked framerate.
That’s good to know. I use it as is and it works like a champ.
@@Paul-qk3wr yeah I use a mod called ultimate survival, that allows you to re-enable saves :)
I have done at least oswalds quest 3 times with high fps physics fix enabled and i havent had problem a single time with it. And i have play something like 300 hours with it running at 120fps and i havent see any quest to getting broken, only things that have get broken are same things that would get broken with vanilla game also.
I really like your content I'm a performance enthusiast in games and appreciate the work you put into making this video
Thank you so much!
I was having serious frame issues to the point of the game being almost unplayable, but getting the first three mods and tweaking my settings fixed it right up!
I dunno, with how bad Starfield turned out to be, i know I'll still be playing FO4 for a while. Hope you carry on making FO4 videos!
Finally someone that knows what he's talking about.
Not like 99% of fallout community recommending usless tweaks that aren't even used by the engine, but they thought they know what the tweak does because the name sounds familiar to them[
The way Fallout 4 run today im not surprise with the perfomance of Starfield.
Thanks for making this one, getting more and more ready to play Fallout 4 :- )
I was going to ask for a Starfield optimisation settings but i remember that i actually just need to buy a new computer, thanks Todd.
So for those wondering what the Fallout Priority mod is for, its for those of us who play in windows borderless. As with most systems when you play in anything that's borderless, windows does not set the game as a high priority (like in fullscreen) So it essentially increases the fps of Borderless from say 38, to 120, which is obviously a massive difference!
Why do you want to play in borderless? well for me in particular I like to watch fallout lore videos or tutorials on certain sections or playthroughs while playing and tabbing out can sometimes crash the game, so borderless is the best way to just quickly tab out and pause or play a video.
Awesome guide helped me boost my FPS to where I needed it. Though, after adding the mods in Mod Organizer 2, it tanked my frames to 15-20 fps. In my case, I think the Fallout 4 Script Extender was causing this. I gave my PC a full reset and now everything is working perfectly.
Cake back to drop a like. My guy, thank you. I thought my machine was a toaster.....
Everything works for Fallout London and it does wonders, not sure about PRP as it seems like a hassle to install and my fps is a lot better with the current mods
Thanks dude!
PRP won't help you in FOLON's worldspace (and I've discovered its often runs much worse than vanilla). The other mods will be a huge help though, I'm certainly using them.
@@PancuroniumB thanks for the update! Good to know if I did try it I would’ve wasted my time lol.
thanks for testing them all. knowing which are pointless reduces my mod list
Didn't know I missed a few performance upgrades mods in the nexus. Thx for making this video m8. Also for the next video request, do a player house mod battle
Hey pancorium! I saw the upscaler that you are using and that reminded me of a better alternative to this one, in fact, it is the best option for most games: Please, try LossLess Scaling, it is so much easier then using that mod, it has frame gen and it also helps with different types of upscaling!
i indeed got a little fps boost with the Priority mod!
I use a i5 4670k @ 4,2 ghz and a GTX 970
using this mod + FAR + Buffout + Shadow Boost + vivid fallout + insignificant object remover and Beth.ini settings the game runs way smoother with less stutter and has sometimes over 60fps in areas where i got around 42fps before.
it really helps a ton.. the difference of 42 fps and over 60 fps is insane!
Which version of vivid fallout did you use?
Thanks!
14:06 Fuck... Thank god we have modders haha ! I didn't see that one coming! it had me laughing loud.
I am a returned player after 4 years, and have only played 1 hour so far, because I found the game very laggy, and I found your video.
EDIT:
My low-end CPU and high-end GPU can now run the game on ultra setting with 60 fps and above. THANK YOU SO MUCH
Feels like i learned how to optimze a lot, even XBOX players have a ton of options here
Nice video! I pretty much have all of these downloaded for the most part except the upscaler. Just wanted to say there is a god rays fix bat file mod. Cheers.
Thanks brother. Shadow Boost is now on my list.
Fallout 4 Upscaler didn't improve my game at all, but probably because of that CPU limit you were talking about (my gaming PC is like 7 years old at this point). Definitely going to give that Previsibines Repair Pack a try though; Boston Fixes doesn't seem to help me, and that area only runs about 30 FPS for me, sometimes with crashes. Going to give those bug fix mods a try too.
I have almost 300 mods installed over the coarse of like a month now, and it never ceases to amaze me at how many useful mods I can still not know about.
my brother in christ, it might be time to upgrade if you run 300 mods
@@shrinkie_dink371 Sure, load me the $1,000 to do that.
@@Augoeides32 You can build a decent PC for half of that money...
My RTX 3060 Ryzen 5 5600 desktop cost me 550$ to build and my RTX 2060 Intel-10750h laptop cost me 520$, yet Fallout 4 runs at 120-140fps 90% of the time on my laptop
Previsibines Repair Pack will help a lot and optimized 1k or 2k textures will also help ALOT. Also if ur using enb there will be no performance gain from the upscaler.
Have you looked at the GOG version of the game?
It might have some updated bloat removal or tweaks that the Steam version doesn't. Being DRM free 'n all.
One thing I've noticed is that the 'Weapon Debris' setting is absent from the Launcher.
Same here! I've come across SOOOO many forums that tell me to turn 'Weapon Debris' off, and I'm over here sayin' under my breath, "Ok, sugar tits, where the fuck is Weapon Debris located?" XD
Thank you for the guide! It was very helpful!
This is all fine and dandy but the biggest issue by far is texture pop out and pop in with LOD textures not despawning causing clipping like everywhere you look especially in a virtibird. Even fresh installs of FO4 with no mods does this.
Thx man now i don't need another vids about performance u and this video is all what i need damn i watched alot of vids for this they did nothing noticeable.
If mods from this vid didn't help me improve fps in my game than nothing will
But can this make it so that Downtown Boston is at least 30 fps so that that Raider camp in the broken highway next to Goodneighbor isn't blowing up my computer?
Excellent video, thank you!
I’ve been waiting for this☕️☕️☕️
At 1440p ultra settings the game only uses 9 percent of my CPU and 40 percent of my GPU and yet I get tons of frame drops and screen tearing, 12th gen i3 and an RTX 2080 Super with 32 GBs of Corsair Vengeance 3600mhz DDR4 RAM
Very cool, but doesn't work for me at all. This is because my PC, I got for free. It was from some Chicago College that was getting rid of their old PC's and getting new ones. It won't even run Fallout 3, but does run a mildly modded Fallout New Vegas, and mildly modded Elder Scrolls Oblivion decently.
I love it. The classics
Eres gringo puedes comprar una pc mejor de manera fácil
Tendra que pagar un seguro medico @@JC666z
bro i have a optiplex 755 from 2007 and it runs like shit too like have to play NV at 800x600 and i also got it for free
@@JC666zshh.
PC 7950x with 64gb ram and RTX 4090 with Gigabyte M32u 144hz. I was getting all sorta of weird super slow world movement. Had to lock my monitor refresh rate at 120fps and disable g-sync both in windows settings and NVIDIA control panel. In game settings I maxed optimized with gforce experience at highest settings. Note as there hasn't yet been fix "Weapon Debris" is set to off. I use Vortex Mod Manager. Use over 33 mods all not using Fallout Script Extender so FOSE4 doesn't break as updates happens. Fresh install with full dlc and 4k high resolution texture packs. So notice a few "new bugs" like long load times, maybe some anti-aliasing flashing. Most part be bug free as I've leveled to 40 on my way to Diamond City. Not rushing main quest.
I was choosing better quality then FPS. still getting mostly close to solid 120. Not depending on FOSE4 mods.
the game incorrectly detects monitors that are set to refresh rates above 120Hz as being set to 120Hz it can result in the game moving too fast.
It is advised to keep the default settings and play the game with a 60fps cap. The fps cap that the game uses is determined by your monitor refresh rate (typically 60Hz or 120Hz), and dividing it by the "iPresentInterval" value.
To change this value, access the Fallout4.ini file located at the following location by default: C:\Users\\Documents\my games\Fallout4
If your monitor is set to 60Hz, the iPresentInterval value should be "1"
If your monitor is set to 120Hz, the iPresentInterval value should be "2".
Setting it to "0" uncaps the framerate and can cause the issues mentioned above.
If your monitor is set to a value larger than 120Hz (such as 144Hz), we advise you to set your desktop refresh rate to 120Hz instead, when playing the game.
Steps for changing your refresh rate.
Right click on your Desktop.
Click on Display Settings.
Scroll Down and click on Advanced display settings.
Under the Refresh Rate section select 60 Hz from the drop down list.
Click Apply. You will be prompted to "Keep Changes" or "Revert." Select "Keep Changes."
Alternatively, you can select Display Adapter Properties for the monitor you are using and change your Screen refresh rate to 60 Hertz under Monitor Settings. Click Apply when complete.
Thanks for making this video. I played starfield and then just wanted to play fallout 4 modded instead and this helps lol
I love the spike of FO4 players awaiting Starfield, myself included. Never played FO4 until recently and I'm actually disappointed in myself for not playing it sooner!
For me it was actually wanting to strut in Power Armour and watching Fallout 4 videos to introduce me to Stratfield. My fallout 4 runs at around 20 fps in 720p so hopefully it improves
From what I've seen so far starfield is very promising, I'd hace to buy a new pc before playing tho
@@manuelredgrave8348 Yeah, Starfield looks amazing in my opinion. I've played every Bethesda game except fallout 76 now. I know that these issues shouldn't exist, but the only real complaints I've seen from people that are playing starfield are weird AI glitches. I think that's a really petty thing to throw the game under the bus for. My favorite Bethesda game of all time is Oblivion and the glitches in that game were very prevalent, but it didn't take away from how amazing that game was one bit for me, if anything it would give me a unexpected laugh every so often. Same with fallout 4. The only issues I've had were with AI, and once again it was just making me laugh. My companion was on top of a tall building with me and decided to just run off the edge and was screaming from the bottom that he was hurt. Too funny to me. The stories that are told and the items that you earn are what makes these games so great, and they go into such much depth the more you play and do. Bethesda also ALWAYS has their DLC on Point. They don't release anything small, they always pack a punch with their DLC.
One separate note about starfield: FO4 is 35 gigs and has a ridiculous amount of stuff to do. Starfield is 120 gigs..... I can only imagine how many hours of gameplay exist there. It's actually wild to me.
As for being able to run the game, thankfully I can run everything fine at 1080p. I feel like one day I'll try and build a really nice 4K rig and play all of the Bethesda games again.
Both games garbo I just came back to fo4 because starfield runs like shit
@@1738-l1j time to upgrade, games fine for me
The 60 FPS in lock picking can be changed in the INI file (HighFPSPhysicsFix): LockpickingFPS=60.0
We need an updated version of this vid now w/ the next gen update! 😵💫
Absolutely Brilliant. You should be running Bethesda! I play offline thru ex-launcher to avoid them and their mod-traps. Thanks downloaded for going back to. Old country guy.
Stumbled upon this video after the next gen update. Does anyone know if all these mods still work? I would looooove for the game to run higher than 60. I’m doing my 7800x3d and 4070ti a disservice 🤣🤣
High FPS Physics Fix was updated, not sure if it's safe and stable to use yet.
@@PancuroniumB thanks! Would you recommend holding off for the time being?
@@dancoelho2089 Definitely. There's talk of Bethesda releasing another update to correct the mistakes they made with this one, which will set the script extender team back another few days. It's best to stick with the old version until the whole fiasco is over.
And the update broke this!
I'm not sure if this will help on my desktop since I have about 800 mods installed but no harm in trying, I have some legacy hardware that runs Fallout just fine at high/ultra 1080p and 60fps thought a little performance improvement might help here and there. Also, do you know if these mods would make Fallout 4 use more than 4GB of VRAM at 1080p, most search results I read say that vanilla F4 just utilizes 4GB for all picture sizes but can't help but wonder if that's true or not.
Just using the High FPS physics fix seemed to somehow smooth out my fps.
ye.. but in vr, its a different beast. 4k with its 3840 × 2160 sounds like much, but thats not the case with vr.
even on "medium" resolution headset like the quest 3, its 2x 2064 + 2208, so 4128x2208px panel resolution. and that just the display hardware. in order to render the image for the headset, so that distortions etc arent visible, steam vr renders higher, by factor 1.4. meaning 4128 x 1.4 = thats 5780 x 3091 overall resolution that gpu has to push. and some headset use 2880x2800 displays. vr, can chef hardware like its nothing and vram can never be enough. hell, you can get a 4090 to sweat in skyrim with mods and have its vram full
Really useful video, a lot of very useful information. However, I think your clearly very anti-Nvidia stance clouded your bit about the weapon debris settings. Currently Im running the game on a RTX 3070 at 1440 with weapon debris on ultra as well as Fallout 4 HD Overhaul 2k textures, NAC X, and Ultra Interior/Exterior Lighting. Steady 60 fps, only one CTD in 60 hours. (Which was a script error caused by a settlement mod).
Still, Nvidia bashing aside, very good video and a great resource. I enjoyed watching!
Unless you're using the Weapon Debris Crash Fix mod, I don't believe you. Fallout 4's weapon debris isn't stable on Nvidia's Turing architecture or newer. Even on my old GTX 1060M I had massive lag spikes whenever certain effects occurred (but no crashes).
Really nice selection of mods. Helped out allot.
I dont know if i had something set up very wrong but shadow boost screwed my whole system and modlist. Wrecked my ini. Im better off without it due to manual ini changes, manually selecting load orders. Im in a massive discord with shadowofthewind hes a legendary genius and he give tips and tricks and pointers to understand modding and precombines. My fallout 4 would not work if it wasnt for him. He does recommend shadow boost if set up right but ive tweaked my inis to compensate a little for not having that feature
spent a lot of time trying to fix my graphics, turned out I had the perception bug with perception at -5 lol
Thanks buddy great video
Here's hoping the "next-gen update" pulls a skyrim se level optimization over the initial release.
with major updates, waiting for your new guide on PC performance
Im curious about something.
Is the same desktop setup that you use to run FO4 smoothly enough to play Starfield or will I need an upgrade?
It depends on your definition of playable. I don't have the game yet, but I know the 7800X3D paired with DDR5-6000-CL32 is good enough for 90+ fps all the time at Ultra settings, and often well above that. The RTX 4060 will be a massive bottleneck for me. I'm not sure if I'll be able to hit 60 fps even on the lowest settings with FSR at 1080p, let alone 1440p.
The game appears to be so poorly optimized it might be best for most people to cap the framerate at 30 or 40 and focus on increasing settings as much as possible, since a locked 60 will be impossible. No matter what hardware it runs on, Starfield's performance is very disappointing.
I always found FAR is just as stuttery as vanilla and I found that hein34's newest vivid fallout lod textures are a lot better. Not saying FAR is bad or anything I just found vivid fallout better for my experience.
man i love all these mods that all rely on F4SE, hopefully bugthesda doesnt add a useless update that breaks F4SE causing my game to not fucking work.
Crazy that this is exactly what happened LOL 😢
I usually cut out God rays and lens flares. I just think there a bit much in general in this game. Then again if I can lock in at 60 and enjoy a largely crash free game then I'd be happy.
Then again I'm the type who uses 1 weather mod, Skyland AIO, and RW2 in slyrim and am more than happy with that on console. But some of this is still very useful to know.
My problem is I'm only using 25 percent of my resources to get 45 fps
Thanks man!!!! fak took me years to fix this game into wide screen at 100fps..... smh THANK YOU SIR.
The video I didn't know I needed. 😅
@PancuroniumB At the risk of asking a 'stupid' question. Could you please list the steps to install Shadow Boost? I have scoured the web for a up-to-date guide and found none. Also, the only instruction on the Nexus page for the mod, if you can call it that is: "Install in the "data" folder of the game..." it says you can also use vortex/mo2, but I'd like to believe it's easy enough to install manually. I've already installed F4SE and the address library for F4SE Plugins with no issues. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
You just put it in the Data\F4SE\Plugins folder, if you're installing manually.
@PancuroniumB I used these steps to install F4SE (it was working before but I tried it again using this vid) ua-cam.com/video/_2yb9CjcH_A/v-deo.html
I'm having trouble because I didn't have F4SE\Plugins folder in Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout4\Data\
After following the steps in the video I still didn't, so I checked inside the f4se_0_06_23 folder/archive under Data and there is no Plugins folder.
I might be the only one having this problem, but if you could see the video I linked and maybe figure out where I went wrong, that would be a huge help.
Thanks in advance.
EDIT: I got it working! When I realized I didn't have a Plugins folder, and that you made it seem like your Plugins folder was already present in Data\F4SE I backtraced and looked inside the address library zip I had downloaded. Lo and behold there was a Plugins folder beneath F4SE. I extracted F4SE into a new folder and moved it inside Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout4\Data\. Last thing I did was drag and drop the ShadowBoost F4SE folder inside F4SE\Plugins folder in Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout4\Data\ and that BEAUTIFUL BLUE MENU SHOWS! I hope going through all this and writing my troubleshooting steps here helps someone. have a nice day!
@@radmansrecords6275 Yep, you have to create a plugins folder if it's not already there.
the soon upcoming update said something like maybe improve graphic look or something so who knows it can be fix ... eventually cuz todd
Do you have a modding setup guide?
Brother Raisin you metal mofo. No pain no gain man. Also, doctor? Don't you have any super glue on hand? 🤘🏴☠️
I installed all of the requiring mods for shadowboost but it wont open the setting ingame when i press F11, any ideas what to do? I double checked the right version, compatability and enabling it correctly via vortex
FYI : BethINI is superseded BethINI pie
some garbo psu that will catch on fire a i am literaly dying right now lmao
Thanks for the help!
is there any way to fix the pop in at longer distances? its so bad at times it just takes me out of the experience.
There are mods to increase lod details
i tried the high fps mod. made my game flicker a heartbeat.
i was getting 80-90 fps on my 7700k + 1080ti 16gb ram but surprisingly going to 32gb with the same speed brought it up to 120+.... this game's optimization is so weird
Good video
God Bless you good sir
I used some of the mods and now my game feels low gravity, things fall a little too slow and the character jumps too high too. I changed the jump max height to the default by command but everything else stays low gravity. Any suggestions?
Not really, I've never had that problem. If you changed High FPS Physics Fix's settings, try reinstalling it.
Fallout priority isnt about performance. Its for people having memory related CTD's
great guide
1. Do not use godrays, that's it. 9 years on but they are still not worth it. Funny I could actually play with them on back in the day because I was only running 1080p 60fps and didn't about GPU usage. I'm running 4k 120hz with a 3080 which is several times more power than the r9 290x I had when this game came out, but now I'm at high refresh and a much higher resolution I still see every frame of performance hit. Stable 120fps with them on vs constant drops the 90s with them even on low, no thanks. *Edit* ... but you reminded me of the upscaler mod, last time I tried I just got weird artifacting straight away. Maybe I will have better luck this time and it might let me try godrays again.
Godrays are insanely intensive at high resolutions. On Ultra quality they render at your native res (or close to it), and even at lower settings, the higher your resolution is the higher-res the godrays will be.
From benchmarks I've seen, the mighty RTX 4090 can drop below 100 fps in some scenarios at 4K... as long as those damn godrays are on. At 1440p or without godrays, any PC would be CPU-limited.
I'm hoping for a universal FSR3 framegen mod to come out and work for all DX11 games. That would be a lifesaver for Fallout 4, since over 8 years later, it still runs like crap on the newest and most powerful hardware available.
@@PancuroniumB Truly insane, I trust tried that experiment with upscaler. Obviously even when upscaing from 1440p, performance is still way worse with godrays LOW vs off my on my 3080. And the weird scale artifacts made it not worth it, maybe if I ran performance or balanced mode it would do better, but the artifacts are already too bad at quality mode. Surely the 4090 is like 2x as fast as my 3080, no way it would still perform worse with gr on than my 3080 with gr off?! Great channel, I subbed. You know what you're talking about.
When you are using the upscaler, how do you handle the resolution settings exactly? Should I set it to 1080P in the launcher if I wanna run 1440P or should I keep it at 1440p?
Keep your resolution the same in the launcher.
@@PancuroniumB Thanks for the quick response and all your vids! Cheers
hey can someone help everytime i try to open up the shadow boost menu or theup scaler nothing shows
i wish bethesda made good games that didnt require tedious amounts of modding
Guys if you want to buy new pc in the mid range and you don't care about rtx or dlss just get rx 6700 xt/ rx 6750 xt 12gb VRAM instead of rtx 4060 because VRAM in heavy game it really helps with the texture especially at 4k
Edit:and rx 6800 has 16gb and it can reach 400$ sometimes brand new that is only if you don't care about rtx or dlss
Yeah I have the 6900xtx with Radeon 5600 CPU and I have to say nothing feels sluggish slow or stuttery at all. I play maxed out and it's smooth as can be. I occasionally have some flickering textures on far away buildings in Jamaica Plains but I think that's all I can say I've noticed.
Dude you saved me 15 bucks (FO4 price), i cant stand 60fps,
finally i can get 120FPS like every other game on the planet!!!!
"Ngreedia"
Sound about right.
😂
with the high fps physics mod, my loading screen get very buggy only properly loading if i give a quick alt tab
Is the high fps mod gone? I can’t find it all
My character is moving so god damn fast he’s like sonic it was playing fine yesterday and now he’s super fast
turn on fast vsync in the nvidia panel and cap ur fps 144 for example depending on your refresh rate
I get like 40-60fps, but then again I managed to get it to work on Linux.
If you're OK with having a Windows PC in your property, I'd rather use Steam streaming. It's pretty good. Other than that, I've seen good results using a VM with paravirtualized GPU access
What your destro ?
Arch @@wikwayer
I haven't considered Steam streaming yet. I do know about gpu bridging into a VM or dual booting windows but always seen that as too much work just to play a game. @@afz902k
thanks so much for this
I’m only getting around 20-40 fps on the rog ally, at 900p, it’s worse with 1080p along with all these performance mods. This is when it’s connect to my 55” tv, so when it’s in handheld mode, it’s smooth enough for me not to care. I use an 18w and 25w turbo mode to get this fps. Any tips? I’m only really hoping for like 60fps, and less studdering. I miss working with Nvidia GeForce, the AMD software isn’t as useful as Intels auto optimization tools.
I don't know much about the Ally, but disabling godrays and lowering shadow distance should be enough... from benchmarks I've seen, it should be possible to get over 60 most of the time with the Ally, even with no performance mods.
I think I love you.. have shared as much as I can.
it’s frustrating bc i was trying to play FO4 on pc game pass but the more i research the better off i am just buying it on steam..i have a new high end pc and this game causes me a fkn migraine
@Pancuronium Do any of these mods stop you from being able to get acheivements on Steam?
Some of them do, but Buffout 4 lets you earn achievements again anyways.
@@PancuroniumB Do you have a load order for the mods? For some reason my Upscaler keybind (End) and the Keybind for Shadow Boost (F12) seem to not work.
@@Remynistik Load order shouldn't matter for F4SE mods. Make sure the game is actually running using the F4SE executable. type "getf4seversion" in the console, if it returns nothing you've messed up.
Gonna try tonight tryna play London at 165fps
are there any plans to do a video on bug fixing mods?
I might do it, I don't know. I've got my hands full with a lot of video ideas right now.
What is this shadow boost? and how to get/download/use?
It is unfortunate this video came out a week or two before Optimax XD