DLSS was set to OFF with all non-RTX presets (Medium, High, Ultra) and on AUTO with all RTX related presets (Raytracing Medium, Raytracing Ultra). I did not change any setting, just used the presets as is. The DLSS settings belong to the corresponding preset
Another great video, thanks for your work! You could have added CPU and GPU temperatures as well, but maybe next time ;) Unfortunately due to youtube's compression, I could not see much difference between each of the graphics settings. Maybe a screenshot would do better? Not sure. Another thing: I know that the next video about GPU OC will be coming soon, but would you mind sharing the settings that you used to get the Vmem to 12Ghz? :)
That's the fun part. The differences are very small. I could not tell the difference between Ultra and RTX Ultra during normal gameplay. And also no obvious difference between high and ultra. On medium the shadows and edges looka bit soft, but looks very good to me too. That 12GHz VMem (effective) OC is pretty easy ;) Use MSI Afterburner and simply add +500MHz to the Memory. That's it. BUT I am concerned about proper cooling for the VRAM, so I would not suggest you to OC the VMem any higher than those +500MHz (which is +1000MHz effectivly). I will talk about that in the next video a little more. In short: The thermal pads are not covering the whole VRAM chip. That increases heat on them, which can lead to malfunction or damage with more heat stress. Higher clockspeeds lead to more power draw and heat stress btw.
@@TechModLab Wow, I thought that all the settings looked the same because of youtube's compression, but that's not the case, then :) Thanks, I'll anxiously wait for the GPU overclock video. I used to overclock the GPU on my old laptop, but it was 4 years-old and I didn't want it to last much more, so OC'd as much as I could to keep it stable. Even doing that, it didn't die but I replaced it because the GTX 960m was not performing well anymore (even with OC) :D If you think that +500Mhz is safe enough, I believe in you and will test that together with an underclock and undervolt (saw you mentioned 1605Mhz at 725mv). Will use the same and keep an eye on temps, don't want it to be higher than stock anyway. I believe that an underclock+undervolt together with mem OC might give me better results and equal or better thermals, just like what I can see on the CPU with my R3 3100... undervolt + all core OC to 4.1Ghz has better temps and performance than the stock voltage and 3.9Ghz.
Tested it here quickly and the results are impressive! I don't know what your results were, but I'm getting around the same (if not slightly better) performance with 8 degrees less on the GPU and a couple less on the CPU (makes sense, as the heat pipes are shared). Amazing! Thanks a lot for that, never thought about mem OC and underclock would give me that much of an improvement.
Hi , ich hatte vor, einen solchen Laptop zu kaufen. Ich denke an einen mit RTX 2070 und Ryzen 5 3600 . Würdest Du ihn mir empfehlen, wenn ich nur zocke ? Danke für Deine Antwort im Voraus
Kommt natürlich darauf an was du von deinem zukünftigen Notebook erwartest. Klar, also wie immer :) Das Apex 15 kann gegenüber anderen Notebooks besonders gut: Upgrade-fähig (CPU kann aufgerüstet werden), von Werk aus sehr schnell, läuft recht kühl, erlaubt umfangreiches OC, mehr Multicore-Leistung gibt es in keinem anderen Notebook weltweit. Es hat allerdings auch schwächen: schwache Akkulaufzeit, und es ist sehr laut (wenn man die Lüfterkurve nicht anpasst). Falls du dir das Notebook kaufst empfehle ich auf jeden Fall unbedingt auf den normalen PBO Modus zu verzichten und lieber gleich "Manual OC" zu verwenden, also einen fixen all-core takt für die CPU. Dazu habe ich auf dem Kanal auch schon ein Video gemacht. Aus Sicht eines reinen Gamers gibt es aber auch andere gute Geräte, die dem Apex15 leistungstechnisch Konkurrenz machen. Wenn du aber wert auf die genannten Vorteile legst, die das Apex15 definitiv von allen anderen Mobilvarianten abhebt, dann kannst du ruhig zuschlagen. Grüße
@@AndiNovaOfficial der 3700X läuft im idle bzw beim Browsing leiser als die Varianten mit 3900 und 3950X, weil er eine niedrigere Leistungsaufnahme im Idle hat. Der 3600 hat nochmal etwas weniger Leistungsaufnahme. Bei der RTX 2060 und 2070 ist mit hoher Wahrscheinlichkeit Temperatur und Lautstärke identisch, da beide Karten 115W Leistungsaufnahme haben. Wenn dich das Verhalten der verschiedenen CPU Optionen genauer interessiert kanst du gern das Video dazu auf meinem Kanal schauen. Dort hab ich den 3600, 3700X, 3800X, 3900, 3900X und 3950X miteinander in diesem Notebook verglichen.
Hi there, i have exactly the same laptop. I had good FPS for the first 2 days. After the last update I only have 10 to 20 FPS. Whether on low or ultra setting. Can you help me? Warm greetings from Germany
did not experience such problems. Which CPU? Since last game update? They changed something about the SMT usage of 6-core and less-core Ryzen CPUs. You got a 3600? Maybe something went wrong there.
@@TechModLab AMD Ryzen 9 3900 and a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Refresh | 8 GB GDDR6. The CPU usage is 7 to 10% GPU at around 34% the laptop is not using full power.
@@Holzteppich I got the same config and everything is fine for me. Even with the update. If you are using steam let it check the game file integrity (properties). Mmh... There is also a new GPU driver. Installed it today? Maybe there's a bug in there. Or you just need a reboot after the installation of the new driver.
Greetings from Russia. Maybe you know what memory chips are installed here? I couldn't find RAM from your video on sale in Russia :( Corsair Vengeance CMSX16GX4M2A2400C16 Corsair Vengeance CMSX32GX4M2A2666C18 HyperX Impact HX426S15IB2K2/16 HyperX Impact HX426S15IB2/8
It's the corsair vengeance 2666MHz model tuned to 3333CL18. Tuning it to 3200CL18 is quite easy :) The HyperX ones should be able to do 3200CL18 too but not tested them yet. You can tune them on unlocked Ryzen Desktop CPUs only as far as I know. Correct me if I am wrong. Game was tested on a notebook with a desktop processor (XMG Apex 15). If you can't tune your memory then the fastest out of the box 3200CL18 memory is the "Oloy Gaming 3200 SO-DIMM". But not sure if it's available in russia though. Greetings
@@TechModLab I have a Clevo NH50AF1 with a ryzen 3600. Crusial memory with Micron G and J die chips. And they work 3200 CL22 or 3733/3600 CL 26. Stock Ryzen 3600 with 3200 CL22 memory in Cinebench R20 gains 3450. And with 3733 CL26 memory, the result drops to 3200 points. I'm looking for a memory for lower timings, but I don't know which one to take.
@@fizikpsix3263 I bet you can run your memory with tighter timings. Watch my other two videos about memory tuning. You should be able to achieve 3200CL18 or Cl19. But I don't know anything about Micron G and J die. Never heard of. Only got experience with Micron E-die, Samsung B-die and skhynix C-dies when it comes to memory tuning.
@@fizikpsix3263 oh CineBench R20 is very bad for testing memory by the way :) No measureable effect there. The performance in CB20 is not very memory related. The only difference is that your score tends to go lower when you use higher memory clocks because the SoC is using more power and "steals" power from your CPU cores to match the 88W power limit (65W PPT). You can use Aida memory benchmark for example to test your memory.
DLSS was set to OFF with all non-RTX presets (Medium, High, Ultra) and on AUTO with all RTX related presets (Raytracing Medium, Raytracing Ultra).
I did not change any setting, just used the presets as is. The DLSS settings belong to the corresponding preset
Another great video, thanks for your work! You could have added CPU and GPU temperatures as well, but maybe next time ;)
Unfortunately due to youtube's compression, I could not see much difference between each of the graphics settings. Maybe a screenshot would do better? Not sure.
Another thing: I know that the next video about GPU OC will be coming soon, but would you mind sharing the settings that you used to get the Vmem to 12Ghz? :)
That's the fun part. The differences are very small. I could not tell the difference between Ultra and RTX Ultra during normal gameplay. And also no obvious difference between high and ultra. On medium the shadows and edges looka bit soft, but looks very good to me too.
That 12GHz VMem (effective) OC is pretty easy ;) Use MSI Afterburner and simply add +500MHz to the Memory. That's it. BUT I am concerned about proper cooling for the VRAM, so I would not suggest you to OC the VMem any higher than those +500MHz (which is +1000MHz effectivly). I will talk about that in the next video a little more. In short: The thermal pads are not covering the whole VRAM chip. That increases heat on them, which can lead to malfunction or damage with more heat stress. Higher clockspeeds lead to more power draw and heat stress btw.
@@TechModLab Wow, I thought that all the settings looked the same because of youtube's compression, but that's not the case, then :)
Thanks, I'll anxiously wait for the GPU overclock video. I used to overclock the GPU on my old laptop, but it was 4 years-old and I didn't want it to last much more, so OC'd as much as I could to keep it stable. Even doing that, it didn't die but I replaced it because the GTX 960m was not performing well anymore (even with OC) :D
If you think that +500Mhz is safe enough, I believe in you and will test that together with an underclock and undervolt (saw you mentioned 1605Mhz at 725mv). Will use the same and keep an eye on temps, don't want it to be higher than stock anyway. I believe that an underclock+undervolt together with mem OC might give me better results and equal or better thermals, just like what I can see on the CPU with my R3 3100... undervolt + all core OC to 4.1Ghz has better temps and performance than the stock voltage and 3.9Ghz.
Tested it here quickly and the results are impressive! I don't know what your results were, but I'm getting around the same (if not slightly better) performance with 8 degrees less on the GPU and a couple less on the CPU (makes sense, as the heat pipes are shared). Amazing! Thanks a lot for that, never thought about mem OC and underclock would give me that much of an improvement.
Hi , ich hatte vor, einen solchen Laptop zu kaufen. Ich denke an einen mit RTX 2070 und Ryzen 5 3600 . Würdest Du ihn mir empfehlen, wenn ich nur zocke ?
Danke für Deine Antwort im Voraus
Kommt natürlich darauf an was du von deinem zukünftigen Notebook erwartest. Klar, also wie immer :)
Das Apex 15 kann gegenüber anderen Notebooks besonders gut: Upgrade-fähig (CPU kann aufgerüstet werden), von Werk aus sehr schnell, läuft recht kühl, erlaubt umfangreiches OC, mehr Multicore-Leistung gibt es in keinem anderen Notebook weltweit.
Es hat allerdings auch schwächen: schwache Akkulaufzeit, und es ist sehr laut (wenn man die Lüfterkurve nicht anpasst).
Falls du dir das Notebook kaufst empfehle ich auf jeden Fall unbedingt auf den normalen PBO Modus zu verzichten und lieber gleich "Manual OC" zu verwenden, also einen fixen all-core takt für die CPU. Dazu habe ich auf dem Kanal auch schon ein Video gemacht.
Aus Sicht eines reinen Gamers gibt es aber auch andere gute Geräte, die dem Apex15 leistungstechnisch Konkurrenz machen. Wenn du aber wert auf die genannten Vorteile legst, die das Apex15 definitiv von allen anderen Mobilvarianten abhebt, dann kannst du ruhig zuschlagen.
Grüße
@@TechModLab wie würdest du die 3700x 2070 Variante beschreiben? Bzgl Cooling & Fan-Noise :)
@@AndiNovaOfficial der 3700X läuft im idle bzw beim Browsing leiser als die Varianten mit 3900 und 3950X, weil er eine niedrigere Leistungsaufnahme im Idle hat. Der 3600 hat nochmal etwas weniger Leistungsaufnahme. Bei der RTX 2060 und 2070 ist mit hoher Wahrscheinlichkeit Temperatur und Lautstärke identisch, da beide Karten 115W Leistungsaufnahme haben.
Wenn dich das Verhalten der verschiedenen CPU Optionen genauer interessiert kanst du gern das Video dazu auf meinem Kanal schauen. Dort hab ich den 3600, 3700X, 3800X, 3900, 3900X und 3950X miteinander in diesem Notebook verglichen.
Hi there,
i have exactly the same laptop.
I had good FPS for the first 2 days. After the last update I only have 10 to 20 FPS. Whether on low or ultra setting.
Can you help me?
Warm greetings from Germany
did not experience such problems. Which CPU? Since last game update? They changed something about the SMT usage of 6-core and less-core Ryzen CPUs. You got a 3600? Maybe something went wrong there.
@@TechModLab AMD Ryzen 9 3900 and a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Refresh | 8 GB GDDR6.
The CPU usage is 7 to 10%
GPU at around 34%
the laptop is not using full power.
@@Holzteppich I got the same config and everything is fine for me. Even with the update.
If you are using steam let it check the game file integrity (properties).
Mmh... There is also a new GPU driver. Installed it today? Maybe there's a bug in there. Or you just need a reboot after the installation of the new driver.
@@TechModLab okay, have updated the AMD processor. Now I have 40 to 60 FPS. That's OK for me.
what FPS can you achieve from high to ultra?
Greetings from Russia. Maybe you know what memory chips are installed here? I couldn't find RAM from your video on sale in Russia :(
Corsair Vengeance CMSX16GX4M2A2400C16
Corsair Vengeance CMSX32GX4M2A2666C18
HyperX Impact HX426S15IB2K2/16
HyperX Impact HX426S15IB2/8
It's the corsair vengeance 2666MHz model tuned to 3333CL18. Tuning it to 3200CL18 is quite easy :) The HyperX ones should be able to do 3200CL18 too but not tested them yet.
You can tune them on unlocked Ryzen Desktop CPUs only as far as I know. Correct me if I am wrong. Game was tested on a notebook with a desktop processor (XMG Apex 15).
If you can't tune your memory then the fastest out of the box 3200CL18 memory is the "Oloy Gaming 3200 SO-DIMM". But not sure if it's available in russia though.
Greetings
@@TechModLab I have a Clevo NH50AF1 with a ryzen 3600. Crusial memory with Micron G and J die chips. And they work 3200 CL22 or 3733/3600 CL 26. Stock Ryzen 3600 with 3200 CL22 memory in Cinebench R20 gains 3450. And with 3733 CL26 memory, the result drops to 3200 points. I'm looking for a memory for lower timings, but I don't know which one to take.
@@fizikpsix3263 I bet you can run your memory with tighter timings. Watch my other two videos about memory tuning. You should be able to achieve 3200CL18 or Cl19.
But I don't know anything about Micron G and J die. Never heard of. Only got experience with Micron E-die, Samsung B-die and skhynix C-dies when it comes to memory tuning.
@@fizikpsix3263 oh CineBench R20 is very bad for testing memory by the way :) No measureable effect there. The performance in CB20 is not very memory related. The only difference is that your score tends to go lower when you use higher memory clocks because the SoC is using more power and "steals" power from your CPU cores to match the 88W power limit (65W PPT).
You can use Aida memory benchmark for example to test your memory.
@@TechModLab If I put CL20 I get a bootlap.