Byrna Pepper / CS Gas Handgun - How does it work?
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The Byrna less than lethal handgun has been on the market for several years. The Byrna fires a variety of different less than lethal projectiles ranging from hard plastic balls to pepper ball or balls mixed with pepper and CS gas. We test all of these different types of balls to see how effective they are in stopping a would be attacker.
Pepper spray, oleoresin capsicum spray, OC spray, capsaicin spray, or capsicum spray.
#Byrna #handgun #pepper
Correction: the CO2 cartridge is not punctured upon loading it, it is only punctured when the first trigger pull happens, this allows you to store it loaded for a longer period of time.
That was the prohibiting factor if I had to spend critical seconds to puncture the cartridge.
@@Williy_Nilly You don't spend any additional time to puncture the cartridge. When you fire your first shot it will puncture the cartridge.
@@mikel9567 Also you can keep the safety on and do the first trigger pull which will puncture but not fire then turn off the safe and get full power on all shots.
Fun fact you don't hear the psssss. Because the co2 canister doesn't get punctured until you pull the trigger. They did it that way so you can leave on in there for weeks months on end and not have to worry about the co2 leaking out overtime.
Great alternative to deadly force but I'd like to see the gun in orange or blue to distinguish it from a firearm.
(Edited) I checked. It does come in orange.
They offer them in orange. Check their website or Amazon
I've seen them in FDE, black, orange and yellow. Thanks for watching.
To be fair, in most self defense encounters, your attacker
is not going to be wearing protective face or chest protection.
Therefore, the Byrna is going to be way more effective
than shown in this demonstration video.
If the Byrna is treated and thought of more like
a can of mace (but on steroids) and not a firearm,
and used within it's limitations...
It has the potential to be vey effective (with good shot placement)
in a self defense encounter.
Nothing is a 100 percent in a self defense situation.
Not even a firearm, if not used within it's strength
weaknesses and proper training. Whatever you use in a self defense situation,
fight as though your life depends on it!
(Because it just might)
Overall, good video.
Big props to Pad! Way to go bro!
Stay safe and Healthy.
Peace.
Very fun. Thanks for the demo! Nuclear plant... we had pepperball launchers (tipmann A5's IIRC).
Thank YOU 'Pad!'
So it’s not really affective at all. If Pad was a determined attacker he could absolutely still carry out whatever task he chose too.
Yeah, I would expect him to cripple over. Charging with a knife with an intent to attack, there is so much more to factor in. Drugs, adrenaline to name a few.
I think if hadn’t had the safety mask on so some of that powder could blow straight in his eyes.... might have been different ... not very safe to test that though lol
It does seem to be more of a suicide weapon than any thing else.
@@wjbrooks19 Have you seen someone hit in the face with pepper spray? Many of them don't "cripple over", some charge the person spraying them. I don't think it's a good idea if using any type of less than lethal weapon to fire it then hang around to watch what happens next. If you're using this, spray, tazer, or any of that stuff I would beat feet the other way and hope you screwed them up enough they can't catch you. I don't advocate for the use of less than lethal weapons. I carry a handgun, not pepper spray or a tazer for this reason.
@@Militaryarmschannel I can counter argue, but you have good points. Besides, you drive the real point home.
Thank you Pad! I appreciate you taking these pepper balls for us. You're tough! Honestly, it didn't seem to effect him that much... I don't think the pepper balls would actually stop Pad if he was intent on harming you.
Man that young man is tough as nails.
Love it. First trigger pull Peirce's the c02
Poor Pad! Such a tough champ
IMHO for less lethal option is revolver with ammo with rubber bullet. Or shotgun with similar rubber projectile.
I’ve been looking at these for a while. Great testing
Umarex makes some guns where the CO2 cartridge can be penetrated immediately when needed. This gun will have no CO2 left when needed if the cartridge is penetrated, and it's just too slow and fiddly to penetrate it using the Allen key if you are in need. Hands shaking, adrenaline flowing, it just isn't possible. So for self defence, this is not a good option. If they change this process to one like Umarex is using, then it's a viable competitor to the Umarex guns.
Just buy either a Pepperball branded Firststrike pistol or TiPX by Tippmann, they use off the shelf CO2 cartridges,and you can get the pepperballs in 10 rou d to es direct from Pepperball....
Also, that Nerf mask was slightly dangerous. Next time you might want to get something rated to stop a paintball at least ;) Don't need Pad losing an eye "for the team" by accident....
Perfect side arm for paintball matches when you're used to taking it too far!
Putting this here too
This whole vid was balls up. If these were anything but wonderful vets, I would roast them to hell and back, but I will not. This is where they messed up:
1. The gas does not activate when loading the cylinders in the launcher. You can load one and it will only activate when you squeeze the trigger for the first time. In other words you can carrying it in and when you need to use it you will have a fresh load.
2. You do not need carrying a tool to release the screw cap. Each magazine has one at the bottom and you are supposed to use that.
3. The test subject wore a vest and face coverings and was only hit with pepper balls. I have mine loaded with two kinetic, two Maxes, and then one pepper. If he got hit with a Max instead of the peeper, even with wussy mask on it would just took a good dose of the max and his ass would not have been so tough.
4. I had to use mine on intruders in my home and only had to use one kinetic and it took off the earlobe and I miss with the second kinetic so the other intruder got a Max dead in the jaw and not only did it bust his skin, he got a full dose of max and he dropped like a sack of taters, screaming in agony.
5. So yeah, it may not be able to kill like a gun but it produces enough pain that most say they would rather be tazed.
I understand most gun lover think these are no good. If they are no good, why did he have on a bullet proof vest and a face shield?
I cannot have a gun right now even though I am appealing my denial, but I got this and it has protected my home without me having to kill and run the risk of going to prison, especially with panty waist prosecutors who cannot stand it when normal citizens put down their beloved criminals.
So all the dissers of this. I challenge you to find a person who owns one and break into their house.
As I said, if these were not vets...
Imagine getting a misfeed and opening the gun to investigate only to get a lung full of OC spray. And they really should color the gun in neon yellow, orange, or green to distinguish it from one that fires bullets.
that guy is bad ass
Look at him shaking while loading the CS.
The Piexon Jet Protector seems like a better alternative to the Byrna less lethal gun. It only holds two or four rounds, but for most self-defense aituations, that'll be plenty.
What I learned from this video, don't fight Pad dude is Tough!
the only guy i would still listen too w pink nacho glasses on...
it doesnt puncture til the trigger is fired
I stand by my first statement that dude is a boss 😜
I would go for first two rounds aluminium balls and the last one rest pepper
Yea that's what I want when I'm defending my life. The bad guy standing there calmly explaining what the burn is like and to have watery eyes a few mins later.
Some guy in Home Depot started telling me about his a little while back when he saw my HK sweatshirt. IDK about the use-case scenario, pull a gun that doesn't shoot bullets, get shot by the bad guy. Pull a "gun" on someone without a gun...I'd think any scenario when I'd want to pull a gun I'd want to pull a real gun. Otherwise I'd just be fleeing. IDK....strange. EDIT: Watching the effects I'm even more confident that these won't stop an intent attacker and just make them mad.
Have to wonder if there is significant difference between pepper gun and pepper sprays… in relation to efficiency the agents, delivery methods and convenience of carry … I could see shooting someone in the face as an extreme deterrent but would most likely result in persecution prosecution in anti defense states
that pink eye pro though…
Question can anyone kindly provide more information on the bryna how many states is it legal to carry this
I guess the pink glasses was all they had in Stock ????
Is it possible the mask for face protection is delaying the effects, most likely a real scenario would have faster effects presuming assailant is not MASKED
More importantly what is up with the eye protection
Dude? Really?
But great informative vid
As always!
Dude the pepper balls are no joke i tested on on myself and dear Lord it sucked lol.
Is Pad from Canada.?
typical co2 cooldown and weather/temp sensitivity
This gun is something more for Air Gun Detective to review
Pad. How's come you coverin' up your boyz?
His eyes were protected, that is the point that should hit u and even the mouth and nose didn’t get a a real dose it’s a powder if u put something before it, it hasn’t 5he full effect. And the Byrna is a bit to weak. I got the new umarex i put to 25 j, but that hits through night stand;)
Pad is the man for sure. Literally taking more than one for the team. Whatever he's paid it isn't enough. Thank you for sacrificing for science, Pad!
Pad its for science.
Believe it or not, even just using the kinetic energy balls, this would still be illegal to carry in the UK.
Our self defence laws are an utter joke. 🤦🏻♂️
Really old law that I think still applies is that you can kill a person if you are in fear of your or your family's life I'm American the law was decreed by a king but I believe it still applies forgotten weapons British gun laws for my source
You can use a lampshade to defend yourself but not a baton because it's an item "designed for harm". Let's ignore the fact that a lampshade's base can shatter and cause much more injury than anything else, and is useless!
@@mehtevas2653 Yes you can, but you cannot proactively arm yourself, you are therefore left to use whatever happens to be to hand at the time and even then the police will demand a reasonable excuse as to why the thing you used was to hand. So for instance, you couldn't keep a crowbar next to the front door because that would be seen as preparing to use it for offensive purposes.
Under UK law we are victims by default. The only people who are carrying weapons are the criminals, since they don't care about the laws stopping everyone else from being armed.
Sadly there is little appetite in the UK to allow civilians to take proactive self defence measures. If I could afford it, I'd move to the U.S in a heartbeat.
That's how you know those laws absolutely aren't for your safety, when they make most forms of literally just self defense illegal. They pretend to have a point with lethal weapons, but what's the worst that happens here, a terrorist peppers the crowd and a couple people cry? They make this stuff illegal so that you are dependent on the state, no other reason.
I think a CS gel can would be a better bet. The length of time between impact and effect for the balls is sub optimal. An attacker would have more than enough time to carry out their intended actions before being incapacitated.
It's a paintball marker market as "defence" device
While working corrections we used paintball guns for crowd control. For pepper application we were instructed to fire at structure above the intended target to allow dispersal. You can fill a space pretty quickly this way. Btw about 10 of those kinetics will deter most when shot from a cranked up tippman rifle.
Yeah, those were fun....but I preferred the CS launchers.
Painball guns shhot harder than this crap
@@no.step.on.snek.2423 I agree. Most that are used in law enforcement have been modified way beyond paintball legal fps.
@@kencoffman7145 I've simply changed the back srping of a A5 with a really harder one, I had to screw the FPS srew all the way in to be with in limit. I didn't have solid balls to test how far I could push the FPS but From what I heard, 400 + is easily attemptable but Need a High Pressure air tank (higher the the 800 psi of the usual air tanks) to have something that will NOT fluxuate FPS wise like a CO2.
Well if you're opening up the the gas as high as it goes on a cheaper paintball gun and firing solid pellets your flirting with being able to inflict potentially lethal damage, so that defeats the purpose of this items design.
I think something like this would be perfect in juvenile detention centers, maybe even adult prisons, but that'd be about it.
From my experience with airsoft gas, the reason for the relatively low velocity of the balls is the fact that you guys are shooting the gun in cold weather
I agree, Using CO2 in Winter = forget it. Even Compress air / Nitro, bellow -10C / 14F the "markers" weren't really reliable enough.
Great weapon. . . unless you’re facing someone with a real firearm or any weapon really with the brief delay on the chemical agent. . . or you’re facing someone under the influence of any number of drugs that will cause them to be less affected by non-lethal ammunition.
Also we appreciate your sacrifice, Pad! You were an absolute champ.
It's a good weapon unless you're facing a man or some other real threat. If I wanted to attack someone there is nothing they could do to stop me unless they killed me. Not everyone is as determined but sometimes you run into the wrong person and a pepper gun is just going to be taken away from you and used to beat you in the face.
@@timrobinson6573 Thank God we live in the great state of Fla, right Tim? Some poor suckers are not so lucky. I recommend this in ADDITION to your sidearm if you have to roll through a riot zone (we know it's coming when Trump gets back in the WH in '24). Could keep you out of court for shooting the pedo wielding a skateboard.
it's not to replace a deadly weapon its to add to your defense.
if your 1st reaction is deadly force you can be in deep water depending where you live.
Learn how to fight and use this as an extra tactical measure. Also if you get the all black one it looks like a real gun and sometimes the thought of a gun stops people in there tracks
If a individual gets shot with a byrna multiple times they may have to go to the hospital.
No thanks. I don't feel like getting shot because I pepper sprayed someone with something that looks like a gun.
Agree, I'm not a fan of none guns that look like guns and vice versa. Should be bright orange or yellow imho
They sell them in orange.
The fact that Pad can hold a coherent conversation and open his eyes after 5 rounds tells me this is less than useless. A good quality pepper spray will net you much better results.
I would concur
For sure
I agree. I think being shot in the face or close to it, then running like Hell is about your only option. This isn't a handgun in the traditional sense where once you use it you put the attacker down. Hell, I've seen guys power through being tazed like it didn't even happen. Less than lethal, no matter the product, is just that - less than lethal. If you're in a fight for your life I'm going with a handgun, personally.
@@Militaryarmschannel a large can of Counter Assault or Udap bear spray is a lot less expensive than this thing and requires no consumables. The effective distance is about the same as you were shooting at (~10-30ft) and it definitely works. Getting hit with that stuff is no joke. It hurts and it makes you miserable like you see in videos of cops and soldiers getting CS gassed or pepper sprayed. You can get smaller cans as well that would fit in a purse or pocket. For the price I found googling around, I could buy 5 or 6 cans of bear spray for the price of one of these things. Also, some states would classify this as a firearm because it uses compressed gas, which could mean licensing requirements to carry it.
With pepper spray or bear spray, you can get your attacker with it enough to make your escape and then dump the can if you don't want police to immediately know you had it. It offers a nice bit of deniability should you not feel like being harassed just for defending yourself. At $50/large can, throwing it out isn't that bad. $300+ for this thing is just silly. I can buy an actual firearm for that money.
How can this test be considered practical when he has a mask that keeps it out of his eyes? I'm a CCW holder and am always gonna choose a gun over this but how many attackers are gonna come at you with a paintball mask on that prevents 99% of the powder from hitting your eyes? How would pepper spray do if someone had a mask on?
I've carried these Byrna Launchers in the store for quite a while. I think this product is a great, for those who don't, can't or won't use a real gun. Also for dogs and stuff like that. We carry CO2 conversion kits so you can run the standard CO2's if you want. We also are getting some of their new models, I'm going to do a comparison video when they arrive. Great video Tim.
Byrna had taken over a year to deliver the OC/CS pepperballs I ordered. So I canceled the order and got rid of it. Even the CO2 cartridges are proprietary. Its trajectory was not very predictable like airguns, or real guns. So distance shots on moving targets are pretty terrible too. 😕 They kept making promises they didn't fulfill about shipments they would receive at the end of the month was for me next in line "nonsense". They strung me along for many months and kept breaking promises. It they honestly just said that they weren't sure when, they wouldn't have pissed me off. Lies to keep orders are scam company behavior.
Byrna sells an HD upgrade that allows you to use standard 12g co2 canisters. Adds about a half inch to the length.
Umarex
Standard cartridges and balls, very easy to find online and cheap
I would rather get my tippman 98 paintball gun and shoot the standard. 68 cal. cs balls
Yep I know, that's infuriating. I sent Taurus my Model 85 that broke NIB after 50 rounds in early 2017 or 2018. They kept that gun for 8 MONTHS dicking me around! *8 MONTHS!!!* It was promised 6 weeks turnaround. At the 6 week mark I called and they had no update. At the 2 month mark they again had nothing except to tell me that they only get parts deliveries on a monthly basis on the 1st of each month off a boat from Brazil. At their suggestion, I called on the 3rd or 4th of every month after that for 4 months straight and each time I got a "Nope, we did not receive a Model 85 cylinder and hand this time on this shipment, check back next month." On month 6 after hearing that, I demanded a brand new gun. I said "You know, you guys say you have no spare cylinders or hands, but I know where you can get me one that WAS on that boat...a new gun. This is ridiculous." The lady agreed and submitted a serial swap request. I asked how they'd pay the FFL fee and she said "Oh no, we don't cover that. You're already getting a brand new gun." 🤣 The gun I sent in WAS brand new and broken! Now I gotta pay a transfer fee just to use the warranty? 🙄 Luckily I found a $10 transfer home based FFL and gave them his license info. Imagine if all I had available were these $40 and $50 transfer shops... $50 to get a replacement $250 gun that broke right away out of the box. Ridiculous. Anyway, they said in 2 weeks they'd have it processed and they'd ship the gun out. 2 weeks came and went. Then another 2 weeks. Nothing. I called early on that 7th month and asked wtf the issue was now. They said they never got the license info email. Told my FFL to send it again. 2 weeks later, nothing. Another 2 weeks, nothing. I was a couple days away from calling Taurus to roll heads on the 8th month when my FFL called and said the gun just showed up. So, I made the 45 minute drive across town to get it and the 45 minute drive back home. I literally put another 50 rounds into that new gun to verify that that one wasn't broken too and then sold that damn thing right away without shooting it any further. 🤣 Never. Ever. Buying. Taurus. Again.
@@maledetto1221 What's good about the Umarex: fits many holster vs 1 with the Byrna. Takes standard 12g CO2 carts, which the Bryna can with the HD upgrade. Bad: No removable magazine. Takes a separate action to pierce CO2, which Byrna does on first trigger pull along with firing (shame on Mac for not knowing that). Takes standard 68cal balls (50cal are not standard).
So this is pretty useless.... 2 mag dumps and stand around talking after 😂 I don’t think this is gonna stop anyone who is angry or serious
Is this effective on Karens?
Thank you for this Important Demonstration!!!
Anytime I would be forced to use a weapon, whether it be "less than lethal" or not, is inofitself an indicator I am in fear of being brutally victimized and/or in fear of my life. Your demonstration clearly showed me, "Pad", was NOT detured, nor incompacitated to any effective degree AFTER being shot with less the lethal rounds, and despite being shot, had sufficient time and the capacity to fulfill his criminal/deadly intent upon you regardless!
Not an ideal out come!
He was wearing a mask when hit. Watch videos where people without a mask are shot. That pepper fucks you up.
Are there any projectiles that come filled with acid or binary explosive? I'm asking for a friend
I'm your friend. But in a manly way.
When will we see extended mags, red dot sight cut slide, FRT trigger mods, and exploding balls?
Few notes:
1) the ball won't fold down from the barrelas as you said, but will fold don't to the handle if you push the bottom on top
2) you do not have to tide to much the co2, and you don't punture the cartridge when screwing the cup, but is punture with the first shot
Read the owner’s manual the co2 cartridge does not get punctured until you take it off safe and pull the trigger also the magazine has a built in Allen key to remove and replace the co2 canister. Btw the kinetic balls hurt like hell
Thanks for the info i did not know
Apparently in CA and NY you can only buy rubber balls for this instead of pepper or CS balls. Which is literally useless. That would just piss your attacker off, whether it's a dog or a person.
For when you want to larp as Jeremy Dewitte and probably get killed with a real firearm, plus, the guy that kills you will definitely go free because any sensible jury could relate that he thought it was a real pistola.
SARGENT!!!!
Per Florida statute 970
Jeremy is the Ultimate Florida Man!
Yep, also if you used this gun on a drugged up perp then he won't even feel it. I'd rather have a real gun to put them down immediately.
@RCHobbyGuy92 buy a pcp and give him a dirt nap. Buy normal functioning pepper spray. Baseball bat? The guy in the video took a direct hit to the chest and it barely phased him. He's a fairly small guy by the looks of it. Try that on a 230 pound guy that works out regularly and he'll break you in half.
Built into the bottom of the mag is the allen wrench head tool to load the CO2 cartridge to loosen and tighten the plug
This might be anecdotal, but what I've noticed from my experience is that in a colder and drier environment, gas isn't as effective as when used on a muggy summer day.
Yup. airsofters know this
That is not your experience, that is basic physics.
@@rustknuckleirongut8107 You don't experience physics on a daily basis?
First of all I never get tired of people testing the Byrna, so thanks you both! second I just want to mention in every test the person being hit all ways knows when it's coming! Some one testing this should have a test where the person being hit doesn't know which one there being hit with to see their reaction to pepper/cs instead of a hard projectile!
Problem is, police is confusing their tasers with real guns and it ends up in fatal suspect police interaction
(unarmed suspect)
So maybe non-lethals shouldn't look like a gun
They offer a bright orange version for this issue
@@RayDCO still, officers confused real guns for orange tasers, that didn't help. Maybe some completely different shape, like a rod with laser and thumb trigger would be better. But gun-look-a-like non-lethal is okay only if a person who is deploying non-lethal is well aware under stress he isn't deploying his firearm, but even than it's questionable tbh.
Some officers were yelling: tazer tazer tazer!
And deployed and used their firearm in fatal interaction, instead of using yellow/orange tazer.
Probably be better off with an actual paintball pistol like the tiberious TSC, 6 shot magazines, and chronos up near 300 fps instead of 240 fps. The c02 cartridges are in the magazines so each time you reload you are getting a fresh c02 charge using normal c02 cartridges. They are also both .68 cal so the pepper balls will work in the tsc.
Yeah but that thing is a lot bigger.
what gun. I come up with scoliosis
It’s stunning that Mac is unaware that the CO2 cartridge is not punctured until the first trigger pull, which is a major selling point. It allows you to store it always ready. (Edit) He was also unaware that the base of the magazine can be used to open the cover of the CO2 compartment. Read The Fudging Manual, Mac.
Was going to comment on this same thing but saw your comment and left it at that. Once punctured the cylinder will go dead just sitting and be of no use when needed.
@@larryschmidt3594 Like every co2 air gun everyone has ever owned.
Never heard byrna pronounced that way.
I’ve been pepper sprayed (not pepper balled ) and I found that the more ‘aggressive’ or hyper I got the easier it became to deal with the effects, and the more I stood still and tried to Buddhist monk- my way out of it the more unbearable it became. 🤷♂️ I’d probably use a taser gun before this
Tasers are 100% effective 50% of the time. Right now in NWI, most tazers won't penetrate the winter clothing people wear.
Tazers are more expensive for a reason
When you have to defend yourself with this they are not going to be suited up in riot gear
This is the perfect defense tool for Jeremy Dewitte. "SARGEANT! SARGEANT IT'S A PEPPER BALL GUN SARGEANT! IT'S NOT A HANDGUN! WHY ARE YOU PULLING ME OVER SARGEANT? FELONS ARE ALLOWED TO CARRY OC AND CS BALLS SARGEANT!!!"
Nice glasses. Thanks for the video.
I think the appearance of what looks like a gun, in anti-states is not a good thing. I think you could still be charged with brandishing because it looks like a real gun. You might even get shot due to a mistake in perception. Even in Kalifornia, one can legally carry OC spray. Food for thought.
Illegal in the People's Republic of New Jersey thanks to the definition of a firearm and concealed or open carry laws. You would be looking at up to 10 years in jail for this, before any of other charges. You could carry OC spray, however the entire container can't weigh more than 0.75 oz.
This concept is stupid and dangerous. it will get people killed. if a crook brakes into the victim's house and the victim produces this "thing", the crook will immediately shoot, thinking the victim has a real gun. Even if the victim manages to fire a few balls at the crook, it will not stop the crook from doing harm to the victim. The effectiveness of the pepper powder is even more limited that an actual pepper spray. Most people can still function pretty well even when exposed to pepper spray, or cs/cn. Please, do not buy this item thinking you will be safer. Other than that, the video was fun to watch.
Just buy their balls and use a normal paintball gun. Works much better. But, the HD has it's place. Much easier to wear concealed or keep in your car.
I believe the company name is pronounce “burner”
Cool! I’ve been seeing these pop up in local shops, but it’s hard to find real-world performance info on them. Good video!
Thanks for watching!
The fact that he calls this product bRYna instead of Byrna and that he really uses an Allen wrench instead of the magazine tool tells me that this is a poor review, you can not make mistakes like that ... wifey and I each have an SD, with pepper and teargas rounds.... we are happy with the priduct.
It's not a good representation due to the fact that he is wearing eye protection, and he has a mask on, and also a vest, your average person would not have a mask or eye protection, or a vest to protect from the impact. Without eye protection, he would be blinded because the pepper dust would get in his eyes. It amazes me that nobody mentions that he is wearing eye protection, I dare him to take off his glasses, mask, and vest, then do the test, of course, it didn't affect him that much, the cloud of pepper dust dispersed then he took his goggles off. Really not a good test, who goes around wearing goggles, a mask, and a vest?
If this was effective, the police would be using it.
They have access to higher velocity ones, similar to the military ones. So this one is a "dumb down" version for the civilian market
Not correct they have something similar in a non handgun style to prevent a accidental lethal force incident during training or a incident
A just saw a video of the police using it...idk I saw one video where they shot a dude multiple times in the head neck area and he was immediately incapacitated by the pepper effect. That's what I wanna know more about. The chemical component makes this a realisitic weapon for everyday use. If that aspect doesn't work effectively its not worth it in my opinion. Just more likely to make someone more mad and aggressive but if the pepper balls exploded more reliably and the gun could hold say 10 rounds instead of just five I consider it a pretty high level weapon. It's about as high as you can get without becoming lethal.
Riot forces do use shit like this. So do the military. Have u not seen that segment in one of the jackass movies where it claymore looking thing fired all those little balls at Johnny Knoxville and the other two? Made similar impressions on their skin as these make with the target range rounds. Those claymore looking things were designed for use in riots in free society or prison, military deescalation tactics, etc. they use souped up versions of these byrna’s as well
Consider that an assailant would not be wearing a mask. While I think Pad has big balls taking the hit I think one hit without the mask covering his eyes and mouth.
Well you guys also have to remember you're wearing a vest, face mask and goggles the normal person that you hit with it is not gonna have any protection on So you're not really giving accurate readings Because without the vest the pain is going to be a whole lot worse, And without the goggles and face mask you're going to get the full dust cloud So take that into consideration
CS is slower working, where OC is an immediate worker. Most "experts" recommend OC over CS, because you need the immediate effect more than the longer lasting CS.
This.
Cs needs to come from a burning canister and lots of it 👍
4:40 - The CO2 cylinder does not puncture until you pull the trigger. You can load the cylinder and store it for years if the trigger has not been pulled.
That’s 20 minutes I’ll never get back. Stick with Sabre Red pepper spray.
How is this a "weapon" it's a kids toy my paintball gun is more of a weapon than this gimmick
A day may come where Mac repeatedly saying balls isn't funny to me. Today is not that day
First off, it is not a paintball gun, it tells you on their site "not to shoot paint balls in these'. Paint balls will explode in the barrel.
We have a bad time with water moccasins where I live. Tried to use a Crossman pellet pistol in the tackle box to deal with the aggressive snakes. Worked the first time I released the CO2 cartridge gas into it. Next time I needed it a couple months later. The pellets came out slower than spit wads. I wouldn't rely on it to store the CO2 gas for long term based on that experience.
You use a pellet pistol against snakes?
That seems like a bad idea because:
A) They are hard to hit (that's why snake-shot exists)
B) A pellet isn't likely to kill it
C) A pellet might make a snake angry
D) Water moccasins aren't aggressive
@@BatCaveOz Bat I'm in my 40's, this was twenty some odd year ago. After breaking the tips off of a few fishing poles, trying to get them to piss off. I decided to give the pellet pistol a chance. First time I had to use it. It worked just fine, it had a ten shot cylinder. It's unreliable loss of CO2 power made me discard it for tackle box purposes. I would pick up a cheap 22 short revolver to take up the role of snake medicine.
As far as aggression goes. The ones around the lake I spent my young adult years fishing could be. Thankfully it wasn't common. But every now and then.
It doesn't pop the CO2 until the trigger is pulled.
@@BrokeBoy912 that would make sense.
The main selling point of this pistol (for me), which Mac is apparently unaware of, is that the co2 is not pierced until the first trigger pull, keeping it indefinitely ready in your tackle box. That is, the first trigger pull pierces AND fires the first round, unlike competitors which require a trigger pull only for piercing.
1. Do u think it will actually stop a crazed attacker?
2. Do u think this can deter a bear attack?
8:36 I bet those FPS readings would be a little bit higher if the chrono test were done in warmer climate, especially in the summer.
Doubt a few extra fps would change the results drastically. I'd rather see it's performance is poor conditions than optimal. But your statement is true.
Looks like a waste of money. Pad never went down. Buy a gun to protect your life.
This weapon is a disaster waiting to happen. Could easily mistake a real gun for this less than lethal weapon because of the color and appearance.
Bravo!
They sell paint.
If your buying a less than lethal option for $400 and the first thing you have to do is paint it????
There's plenty of other colors including high vis orange, yellow and pink. I think you'll be just fine 🤣
The pink one sounds just right for you
SO BASICALLY ITS A USELESS PRODUCT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE AN IMMEDIATE AFFECT SO ITS NOT A DETERRENT OF A CRIME.. PASS.
Thanks for an honest review. I have the Byrna XL and I’ve wondered how effective these would be on a person when defending oneself. The other videos I’ve seen , seem to play up the effects of the pepper and CS. As a military vet, I’ve been in the gas chamber and Pad definitely didn’t react the way it would have happened in Bootcamp.
I think this is good to slow an attack, or if a round is placed in the face, I’m pretty sure it’s going to take the fight out of an attacker.
i guess kentucky ballistics lied about how bad it affected him. that sucks.
This will come in handy when your attacker needs to beat you in the face with something but they forgot to bring a weapon.
Why can't I beat them with it at the least? Maybe they don't care about the pepper spray but not everyone that would purchase this is completely defenseless
@@youngguccibelt people like to take it personally when they realize there’s other options out there they aren’t aware of. It’s hilarious the amount of posturing in these comments.
@@chriszimmerman9737 “other options” isn’t how I would describe this. Inferior option is more accurate. You would be better off with a can of OC spray or a taser.
@@Blyat_Commander based of what expertise and what training?Agree about the OC can. Disagree about the taser lol. Lots of PD’s are replacing tasers with byrna.
@@chriszimmerman9737 I’ve been pepper sprayed and I’ve played paintball too much, and I can promise you that this isn’t effective and based off his reaction there isn’t enough pepper and the time it took to become effective is too long. I would already be up in your space by the time it would take for me to even get a tingle.
You should review the XL version of the byrna
HOW re there comments from 4 days ago when it was released on the 24th?
yt members, patreon, early access stuff
The tree huggers will be offended that you harmed that poor tree
Loading the CO2 cartridge looks like a chore. I've had CO2 powered BBguns go flat over time once the canister is punctured... so does this system prevent that somehow?
Yes the Co2 is only punctured when you pull the trigger so the cartridge can stay in the Byrna so its always ready. You can not leave it in there it will leak out in a few hours.
Could the fact that's its cold be affecting the CS? I always though that stuff needs to be heated to properly aerosolize. But no way I'd ever bother with these.
I want darts for it. I want a self defense dart gun.
Great video and I have always said the pepperballs from byrna are horrible. You should rerun the test with the byrna but use the live x rounds from pepperball. Great video brother and thank you both for taking one for the team.
Probably a better option against dog attack than people, although in any attack, you're probably going to target the facial area as opposed to center mass...also more effective in warm weather.
Finally, does it come in palid pink to match those safety glasses? Is it bejewelable? All kidding aside, I think it makes more sense in a state where use of lethal force is all but verboten. Then again, those jurisdictions likely strongly discourage the carrying of less than lethal defensive products.