Byrna Pepper Ball Launcher - Pros & Cons

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  • @Joreel
    @Joreel 8 місяців тому +131

    I've been carrying a Byrna Hi Viz model which was designed for Police, Security, and Military. I've had it for the past year and spent dozens of hours practicing with it to the point that I can hit a 2 inch target at 20ft with all 5 rounds no problem. My son has one as well because he was taken hostage last November by an armed drunk guy on the commuter train he was riding home from school on when we lived in California. You can buy the kinetic rounds which are much more effective for stopping aggressors instead of using Pepperballs which can get you in trouble for discharging of a chemical weapon in a public venue. The Byrna is legal in California except in San Francisco because San Francisco passed a local law that stops people from owning it because it was hurting the criminals who were trying to rob people and the DAs didn't like that.
    The Pepperballs have always been illegal for civilians unless youve taken the Chemical Certification Exam, but Governor Newsom changed the rules last Spring so civilians can no longer take the Chemical Certification Exam through Byrna and the BSIS anymore. He only wants Police, Military, and Criminals to have access to Pepperball ammo now. The Kinetic rounds travel at over 210 mph which will really really hurt when they hit, I know because I got accidentally shot in the ribs by someone.
    Anyone who carries a firearm should carry a LTL launcher if nothing else so they don't have to deal with the legal issue that come with discharging a firearm if some nut tries something stupid.
    I currently have a 16 shot 40 Joules shottie on the way for home protection so I dont have to use my 9mm if I can avoid it.

    • @DonTruman
      @DonTruman 8 місяців тому +9

      Appreciate the info, and the dry, painful humor (e.g. SF DA's not wanting any harm to come to violent criminals).

    • @jyc313
      @jyc313 7 місяців тому +24

      Damn it’s illegal in sf? I moved here for work and was thinking of getting one. I still might cuz I’d rather deter an attack and ask for forgiveness later.

    • @justiceforall6412
      @justiceforall6412 6 місяців тому +5

      Very informative and concise essay, thank you. At those costs and what it does I think I'll stick with my sword and the real gun I own. These have their place, just not for me at those prices

    • @jittersgeyser620
      @jittersgeyser620 6 місяців тому +1

      Dems are such pos. Tired of their assault on the hard working looking out for their families.

    • @nieceyb3068
      @nieceyb3068 5 місяців тому +3

      Thank you so much for all the information. Extremely helpful

  • @kp2874
    @kp2874 4 місяці тому +35

    Byrna runs sale promotions often so you won't need to wait long to get 25% off and free shipping. Had mine (orange) a year now. Super accurate in no time, so fun to practice with reusable rounds. Remember to always keep an UNpunctured CO2 cartridge in it so you are 100% ready to protect yourself and loved ones.

    • @mrbig122959
      @mrbig122959 4 місяці тому +1

      Would you happen to know the address to purchase one of those?I appreciate it thank you

    • @HK-uj9qc
      @HK-uj9qc 2 місяці тому +1

      How many shots can you get in on 1 co2 cartrdge?
      And how long can you leave that punctured co2 cartridge in the byrna, or does it all have to be used up at one time?

    • @kp2874
      @kp2874 2 місяці тому

      @@HK-uj9qc about 20 shots on one CO2 cartridge. You will only ever want to keep a new, unpunctured one in your launcher if it is sitting unused and loaded for any amount of time. You will not want to rely on a partially used cartridge to be effective over time because it will leak. An unpunctured cartridge will not leak and the first shot squeezed off the trigger punctures it so the launcher is effective for each magazine. Cartridges and eco rounds are inexpensive enough to take out for target practice and shoot until the cartridge is depleted. Always wear safety glasses when changing cartridges.

    • @DARTHSTR1FE
      @DARTHSTR1FE Місяць тому

      @@kp2874 I picked up the LE launcher kit. Still haven't tested it out. Which ones are the reusable rounds? Mine came with 3 different types but they all sound similar

  • @rmbaron610
    @rmbaron610 2 місяці тому +9

    I live in Florida where most of the California issues don't exist. I have 6 firearms and a rifle. There's one additional reason for a civilian to have a Byrna. I'm 75 years old and live in a retirement area. Short of being robbed at gunpoint, most issues that I'm likely to face don't call for lethal force, yet I might need an equalizer. The Byrna is great for those situations. People may be shot with a firearm and not know it immediately. But if their eyes and throat are burning and they're coughing and choking, they can't help but notice and discontinue whatever they're doing.

  • @jayatsOX
    @jayatsOX 4 місяці тому +5

    Thank you for your review - the fact that it is hard to conceal is an issue and having to ship it to NJ, because I live in NY was also helpful.

  • @LeeH-Ranger83
    @LeeH-Ranger83 7 місяців тому +38

    This is a PERFECT option for RV / Campers - many or all State and National Parks do NOT allow firearms.

    • @wuffa4503
      @wuffa4503 5 місяців тому +6

      yes they do,,with some restriction you can now have firearms in national parks,,, the law changed in 2010.

    • @poppopcertified
      @poppopcertified 2 місяці тому

      authorized byrna dealer here and can help set you up 😁

    • @blackmagic8115
      @blackmagic8115 Місяць тому

      Thanks to President Reagan you can carry a firearm in most every national park. USA - in Canada you’re a bear snack.

    • @RoadKing-ky2bs
      @RoadKing-ky2bs Місяць тому +2

      ​@blackmagic8115 it was President Obama who signed the reformed law in 2010, allowing firearms in National Parks and being subjected to state law.

  • @stefanschuh2957
    @stefanschuh2957 8 місяців тому +49

    Here the thing about the ammo. It is reusable. How many times do you think you'll actually need them. For target practice, one bottle is fine. Buy or make a trap to recover your practice rounds. They also have two specific target rounds for sale. One is reusable, the other disperses and is safe for environment in a powder burst on impact. So, having the 20 rounds that come with the gun + 1 bottle of 95 practice rounds, are going to go a long ways to save you a ton of money. You will need the new c02 cartridges, though.

    • @PDSClasses
      @PDSClasses  7 місяців тому +12

      One point of clarification: The pepper balls are not reusable. Only the polymer balls are reusable.

  • @espinoza-adventure
    @espinoza-adventure 6 місяців тому +8

    Great video !!! Thanks for sharing this !

  • @albertwashingtonjr2089
    @albertwashingtonjr2089 16 днів тому +1

    Thanks Joel. Your always informative videos are always helpful.

  • @richardw.96
    @richardw.96 5 місяців тому +15

    The kinetic rounds are very reasonable. They are only $49.00 for 95 of them. They are reusable if you don't fire them into a very hard surface, like a concrete wall or a steel target.

  • @mikem4883
    @mikem4883 6 місяців тому +8

    Excellent review. Thank you

  • @VeraxMusic
    @VeraxMusic 6 місяців тому +23

    This guy is great. I hope he's in some role in which he's teaching/instructing people - he's an excellent speaker, a skill that's surprisingly rare in a country full of native speakers. He just made my short list of greatest communicators in America - people who are clear articulators who aren't just making sounds with their mouths, but actually communicating the ideas in the heads in a way that nothing is lost in translation. People might be curious who else I consider on this list - Greg Hartley, former Army interrogator, host of the Behavior Panel. And the other person Luke Thomas (MMA journalist).

    • @andrewbrumagen3479
      @andrewbrumagen3479 6 місяців тому +1

      I thought that too he speaks like well liked teacher.

    • @franksilva2542
      @franksilva2542 4 місяці тому +1

      Joel owns and teaches numerous shooting and security classes. He also teaches CCW courses in San Diego. I called his company about CCW class info, and he personally returned my call. He is a straight forward and honest business owner who wants to help as many people as possible to attain their CCW in California, not such a simple thing to do. I also own a Byrna in international signal orange. I want it clear to any law enforcement officers that I am not holding a lethal firearm. Good work Joel...keep up the updates. I am a subscriber.

    • @RoadKing-ky2bs
      @RoadKing-ky2bs Місяць тому

      ​@franksilva2542 Joel is a stand up Christian man and as humble and nice as can be.

  • @oldcop18
    @oldcop18 2 місяці тому +3

    I’ve been considering this product for my wife & wanted to thank you for this video. Hope you’re doing well Joel.

  • @baahiryusef5
    @baahiryusef5 5 місяців тому +14

    Excellent break down. We're doing a Private Police Department and we plan on using these rounds and the ones in an AR platform. And yes, we will have Lethal, but last resort.

    • @moose9410
      @moose9410 5 місяців тому

      What is a private police department?

    • @baahiryusef5
      @baahiryusef5 5 місяців тому +1

      Some of your well known police are ones like your railroad police. SPCA also have Private Police . Another of universities as well.

    • @baahiryusef5
      @baahiryusef5 5 місяців тому +2

      I meant a number of college universities. A non-profit company can have private Police to secure or police there property.

    • @MontyVee
      @MontyVee Місяць тому

      @@baahiryusef5 thanks for the vocab lesson. Had no idea 🤷‍♂️

  • @gotaigo
    @gotaigo 8 місяців тому +11

    thank you; that was insightful.

  • @kennethburdick1311
    @kennethburdick1311 2 місяці тому

    Great video. Thank you for doing your research and being thorough.

  • @VulcanGunner
    @VulcanGunner 6 місяців тому +20

    I like your idea of this item looking less lethal for your use, thank you.

  • @dogsbyfire
    @dogsbyfire Місяць тому

    Thoughtful analysis succinctly presented. Thank you!

  • @con728
    @con728 3 місяці тому

    Very well thought out analytical analysis. I subscribed to your channel due to the intellectual quality of this review. Thank you!

  • @Themachinegun
    @Themachinegun 2 місяці тому

    This guys is awesome. Clear and to the point. I wonder if he does voice overs. I feel like I've heard that voice before. Thank you for the great information.

  • @PlanB-Idaho
    @PlanB-Idaho 4 місяці тому +9

    I appreciate your review. I understand also your choice of color as non lethal. My concern is that a potential attacker(s) may see this as a toy and will not be deterred by appearance alone forcing you to have to discharge the launcher. If it was the colors of traditional firearms that potential attacker might be deterred by appearance alone and discharging it may not become necessary. Not that I am by any means endorsing brandishing the launcher. Having it a non lethal color may also stop law enforcement from making an error that you are holding a live weapon if they happen upon the scene, however with all the cerecoating options that people can have done on firearms making them look like toy guns that may not be of any advantage. I am looking at a less then lethal carry option because of all the legal ramifications of discharging a live firearm in a self defense scenario. The good guy with a gun is looked upon as bad as the bad guy with a gun today. I am also wanting to have this to carry when traveling as some states will not honor or reciprocate on CCP's issued in other states.

    • @sl4983
      @sl4983 3 місяці тому

      What color did you get?

  • @jmcgregor316
    @jmcgregor316 3 дні тому

    Vert good guidance. Thank you for your experienced wisdom.

  • @thomasholmes4985
    @thomasholmes4985 4 місяці тому +1

    very well said, thank you

  • @Wenn-yc7zt
    @Wenn-yc7zt 2 місяці тому

    Thank you, this was very helpful..

  • @NeoSoulquarian
    @NeoSoulquarian Місяць тому +1

    Great video. Their ads say it is nonlethal which seems to be giving people false impressions. Great job clarifying. It would have been nice to hear someone with your experience also talk about the quality of how it operates.

  • @mariolofaro8330
    @mariolofaro8330 Місяць тому

    Thanks! That's the reasoning I need to justify having this, and in orange.

  • @BRITTON1
    @BRITTON1 6 місяців тому +2

    Thanks

  • @RV_twidlr
    @RV_twidlr 4 місяці тому +9

    I own a Byrna launcher and since I have not had a need to use it for years it just sits in an optimal place. My concern was the shelf life of the projectiles since they were so expensive... This was their reply... "Optimal shelf life for the chemical projectiles is around 18 months from the delivery date. The chemicals remain potent for much longer than this, however the chemical cloud may not disperse as well which can reduce the effectiveness of the projectiles after 18 months. " ... Does anyone have any real life experiences with this?

  • @SupplementalDinner-zs4np
    @SupplementalDinner-zs4np 3 місяці тому +1

    You really know your stuff.

  • @charlenesterken2604
    @charlenesterken2604 2 місяці тому

    I ride horses and out on the trails ,when your by yourself it would be handy especially when you how a run in with dogs .I haven't bought one yet ,it is on my list of things to buy

  • @SirIronJim
    @SirIronJim 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for the Video, I have a 9mm Springfield XD for home protection, but feel that this product would do great for personal protection when being away from home. Unfortunately nowadays, there are people who would rather rob you for a quick buck, rather than try to better their own lives, and will prey on anyone they feel they have an advantage over.

  • @alancranford3398
    @alancranford3398 5 місяців тому +6

    I have a Byrna LE (orange, of course, I would rather not have my less-lethal look like a gun) and it has an advertised accuracy distance of 80 feet. That outreaches pepper spray in keychain, pocket and law enforcement sizes and probably has more reach than the riot control tear gas and bear spray cannisters. I tested the kinetic projectiles at 10 yards on standard falling plates and at 20 yards on paper targets for accuracy. I was able to achieve 100% hits on 8-inch bullseyes. The 8" steel plates did not fall when hit. No wonder--about 12 foot pounds muzzle energy! Also, of five rounds fired at the plate rack, all bounded back and hit me, one bouncing off my safety glasses.
    Perhaps I'm better off with a pocket full of golf balls!
    Still, the ability to put pepper balls on target at 25 yards is better than having nothing at all. The Byrna LE takes the larger 12 gram CO2 cartridges and the two magazines provided in the kit hold seven rounds each. Accuracy is superior to throwing golf balls.
    I have a combination aiming laser and light module and a holster. It should be effective as a distraction and might deter--but like using pepper spray, hosing down an enemy is for breaking contact and opening up an escape route. It might drive off a dog or smaller mammals.

  • @raymondkb2nzo788
    @raymondkb2nzo788 3 місяці тому +1

    Very good

  • @burnshirtvalleyfarm6337
    @burnshirtvalleyfarm6337 3 місяці тому

    Maybe its been mentioned but if you dont have to keep it locked or you have kids in the house this would make a possible accessible deterrent next to the bed to give you cover till you get your $0.19 a round defense.

  • @davidliddle9033
    @davidliddle9033 3 місяці тому +2

    My town (Chapel Hill, N.C.) has an ordinance against any "gas operated weapon". If you're thinking about getting one of these check your local laws.

  • @tulsacajun6183
    @tulsacajun6183 Місяць тому +2

    I am a two-time. Recovered FELON. I asked Owasso, Oklahoma PD? They said NO. Last week. Then I approached Oklahoma Highway Patrol? They said YES! ONLY IF!! It is the orange/black version. I am okay with that. So. IF you are a Felon. And still want to protect yourself? OR your Family. Give your local law enforcement a call. It worked out for me. And I have terrible luck.

  • @pvpv6969
    @pvpv6969 8 місяців тому +11

    Great video, thank you. I live in NY and our gun lays are really strict. Was thinking of gettingbone of these for my wife. She has been followed a couple of times in a store and out to her car. Do you think this would be a good option for her? I have talked to local police and the Bryna is legal where we live. Thanks again for your time.

    • @PDSClasses
      @PDSClasses  8 місяців тому +3

      It could be a good option, provided she is willing to carry it. It's quite large.

    • @moose9410
      @moose9410 5 місяців тому

      She would be better off with a fixed blade knife to be honest. If your wife was grabbed god forbid, she would have to try to reach in her purse to get this pepper ball gun, the bad guy would just take her purse. Have her carry a fixed blade knife inside her waistband for easy and quick access

    • @user-SahmJuanElse
      @user-SahmJuanElse 4 місяці тому +1

      Leave New York. What a horrible state.

    • @davidliddle9033
      @davidliddle9033 3 місяці тому +1

      Better check & make sure NY/your town doesn't have local law against CO2 pistols, my town ( Chapel Hill, N.C.) has ordinance against them.

  • @tagginondawal3961
    @tagginondawal3961 2 місяці тому +1

    California resident here. Due to my job (parts driver), and since I can't use the CS balls, I carry an Umarex (it's similar to this) defense since I have often over 5k worth of items and some of the shops I deliver to aren't in the nicest parts of town, and almost got mugged once on the job, but this dissuaded the perp. The umarex hdp 50 is around $110 and shoots at 350 fps or so
    I know SF won't allow these things, and CA as a whole aren't allowed to use pepper. It's annoying to live in CA, but we make do with what we got.

  • @LennyMolnar-rs8df
    @LennyMolnar-rs8df 5 місяців тому +3

    I got one it's great

  • @joeo7693
    @joeo7693 2 місяці тому +5

    I have more than a few conceal carry handguns. I just purchased a Byrna LE so I can have a less lethal option. I will carry both.

  • @irgendwerlecker8468
    @irgendwerlecker8468 7 місяців тому +7

    I brought the one that look like a gun. It's a deterrent when I walk a night.

  • @alancranford3398
    @alancranford3398 5 місяців тому +1

    Regarding security guards: over the past 30 years I've been licensed as an unarmed security guard in Arizona, California, Nevada and Utah. The Bryna would still be prohibited by both state regulations and company policies.

  • @DogDuwer
    @DogDuwer 21 день тому

    Walking the dog, attacked by 3 medium sized dogs off their leash, with Byrna LE and Max OC/CS balls shot all 3 in two seconds, dogs hauled butt.
    We also have Black bears in the area, the air horn works best, but I carry a Byrna as back up. The Byrna also makes a loud pop that will help to deter an animal.

  • @Rottingboards
    @Rottingboards 7 місяців тому +12

    Great for RV travel for safety. Some US states and Canada are harder to bring in guns.

  • @Rottingboards
    @Rottingboards 7 місяців тому +11

    Maybe great wildlife deterrent when hiking? Can you buy OC bear pellets?

    • @kamalakrsna
      @kamalakrsna 6 місяців тому +1

      My same question

    • @billcory7479
      @billcory7479 5 місяців тому

      They have a video of an attack dog whining and running. Don’t know about bear.

  • @Al_lan
    @Al_lan 9 місяців тому +5

    Umarex makes something similar but I don’t know if they offer the pepper balls. Umarex ammo could also be cheaper than what you spoke of on the Bryna.

    • @Joreel
      @Joreel 8 місяців тому +1

      Byrna chemical rounds are good, but yeah they are a little more expensive than Duke rounds or Salt Pepperballs ammo.

    • @MWS67
      @MWS67 8 місяців тому +1

      GRIMBURG KINETICS 6 GRAM CS + OC IRRITANT PROJECTILES 68 CALIBER

    • @kennymike7937
      @kennymike7937 7 місяців тому +2

      You could also upgraded both guns to where it's twice or 3 times more powerful .

  • @BobMarley-pm1xb
    @BobMarley-pm1xb 20 днів тому

    Fine vid. I dl’d it. Thanks Joel

  • @erichartford6833
    @erichartford6833 7 місяців тому +25

    I had both of mine shipped to me and I live in California. They are both California compliant.

    • @bullishharvey8793
      @bullishharvey8793 7 місяців тому +5

      Are you allowed to conceal and carry it ? I'm in Cali too just wondering

    • @williamdolezal9184
      @williamdolezal9184 7 місяців тому

      So you got the way under power unit

    • @USMCdad470
      @USMCdad470 7 місяців тому +1

      Where did you get them? Online? I’m looking and can only get online but no walk in here in CA.

    • @skysailorfpv
      @skysailorfpv 6 місяців тому +3

      @DougDougie Order from Byrna website I'm in California waiting on mine

    • @skysailorfpv
      @skysailorfpv 6 місяців тому

      @@USMCdad470 I think Bass Pro has them

  • @jasonberryman2865
    @jasonberryman2865 2 місяці тому +2

    Are felon's able to legally possess them?

  • @fredoberetta0351
    @fredoberetta0351 Місяць тому

    I agree! Less lethal means im not buying black! I’m have the LE orange and run a security company. A lot of the public sees it on me and ask if its a taser. ITS A GREAT VISIBLE DEFERENT. I still use a can of pepper spray and prefer to use the can of pepper before drawing my Byrna. Im always maintaining a safe distance and asking myself do i have another option to “get away”…..even my Byrna is a last resort to getting away from the risk or the bad guy

  • @shawny5338
    @shawny5338 2 місяці тому +2

    I got one of these for my truck. After a few weeks, I took it out to show a friend but when I tried to fire it I found out the gas had leaked enough that I could not fire it. The paperwork does mention that there is some leakage but does not give timelines/expectations. I have put it in my bedroom as non-lethal option and have the magazine out/ready to twist the co2 cartridge but my first option will be lethal if there is no time. I bought a new unit from Big5 for $80 that activates the cartridge by slamming the bottom on a surface so I know it will be ready whenever I need it. I have looked at a few of these "Review" videos but NONE talk about this issue.

    • @PDSClasses
      @PDSClasses  2 місяці тому +6

      Apparently, you did not buy a Byrna. The Byrna costs about $400. The Byrna does not puncture the CO2 cartridge until you fire the first shot. Thus, there is zero leakage.

    • @shawny5338
      @shawny5338 2 місяці тому +1

      @@PDSClasses that’s correct. My second unit is not Byrna. I couldn’t recall the brand/model but it normally sells for around $120 at Big5 and I got it on sale. The leakage problem solved but, Byrna has detachable magazines which the cheaper model does not. I was hoping that someone had a third party option for Byrna? Or maybe one of these companies could do better research and have a better solution?

    • @bp6877
      @bp6877 14 днів тому +1

      It may not leak until cartridge is punctured; however, in my experience, if pulling the trigger for initial puncture, you're losing the ability to fire that first round; in a dangerous situation, that delay could be lethal.

  • @hgoff5617
    @hgoff5617 5 місяців тому +2

    the thing that cheesed me on the Byrna is that the safety is opposite from the 1911 platform. all that muscle memory in training is now backwards. i can see getting into a situation and putting it on safe and trying to shoot. i emailed the company to learn why they went opposite and got crickets for my trouble.

    • @sl4983
      @sl4983 3 місяці тому

      Interesting

  • @Combat556
    @Combat556 6 місяців тому +12

    I’m considering one of these since SB2 passed in CA on January 1, 2024, and my CCW is near worthless. The LE version hits much harder, and is CA legal for non LE civilians; it is going to be available mid January. The downside is quick deployment because of the size; it’s close to the size of a full sized service weapon.

    • @neighborhoodlegal9929
      @neighborhoodlegal9929 4 місяці тому +1

      you can get an extension so you can use the larger gas cartridges for more power.

  • @cb5745
    @cb5745 Місяць тому

    What do you consider the best option for civilians who can't buy a firearm?

  • @mrbig122959
    @mrbig122959 4 місяці тому +1

    What's the address to purchase one of those? I appreciate it

  • @tommytar123
    @tommytar123 6 місяців тому +43

    My wife carries a Byrna and has used it twice on crazy homeless guys.

    • @1gunrack
      @1gunrack 3 місяці тому +3

      Did jt work? Do its job?

    • @danarcotta1283
      @danarcotta1283 3 місяці тому +3

      She used it twice, I'm guessing that she's ok

    • @sl4983
      @sl4983 3 місяці тому

      And, how'd it go?

    • @tommytar123
      @tommytar123 3 місяці тому

      One shot from 8 feet with the hard ball in the upper thigh sent him to the ground. The other guy saw the Byrna and turned around. @@sl4983

    • @jessikacutts3986
      @jessikacutts3986 Місяць тому

      @@1gunrack I assume it worked at least once lol…

  • @tylerbenrich
    @tylerbenrich 9 днів тому

    Thanks for the information! I am definitely going to be purchasing one for my parents for their home defense. My father is a minister and strongly doesn't believe in owning a firearm. Then my mom (jokingly) says if she had a firearm she'd use it on my father.

  • @thisissparta8884
    @thisissparta8884 6 місяців тому +4

    I got a bb gun that takes Co2. Sometimes they leak and have no power to shoot the bbs. Would really suck to have that happen when you need it with this.

    • @bobicpfan2
      @bobicpfan2 6 місяців тому +15

      on the byrna the co2 isnt punctured until you pull the trigger for the first time with a new co2 cartridge

    • @billcory7479
      @billcory7479 5 місяців тому

      Burma says not to store a partly used cartridge in the gun cuz it will leak. Put in a new one and don’t shoot it til you need to.

  • @Cowboyup57717
    @Cowboyup57717 4 хвилини тому

    Thank you for the information. We're Constitutional carry so everyone does. This would be nice to have, too.

  • @tkidd250
    @tkidd250 5 місяців тому +1

    What about the Sage FN303 would that be a good alternative?

    • @Yurastupidass
      @Yurastupidass 3 місяці тому

      Are you in the military or law enforcement? Public cannot buy it.

  • @HK-uj9qc
    @HK-uj9qc 2 місяці тому +1

    Whats the oc/cs??

  • @TheLillianYoung
    @TheLillianYoung 7 місяців тому +14

    Great info. I chose Byrna because of the "NY Compliant" claim only to be stopped at shipping.
    I walk to the gym before sunrise. I haven't encountered many issues - just 1 drunk trying to block me while walking who left eventually. However, my walk has a pattern and anyone can observe and attack. I have gel pepper spray but would prefer a Byrna as part of where I walk was on TV for trafficking.

  • @jonathangonzalez6972
    @jonathangonzalez6972 7 місяців тому +16

    Will these be affective in the winter when people layer up?

    • @jonathna11
      @jonathna11 7 місяців тому +7

      This stuff shoots through car glass I'm sure it hurts like getting shot but non lethal

    • @LennyMolnar-rs8df
      @LennyMolnar-rs8df 5 місяців тому

      Yes. As long as you hit the upper chest or in the face I've shot one of these the pepper ball rises and spreads out and looks for an air opening. Face. mouth. Nose. i bought my gun . I made the mistake firing one of the pepper balls for target practice. It almost knocked me out. Basically if you use the pepper balls they will be choking on their own air. They will get their breath after a while. It will not kill anybody. They also have nerve gas balls mixed with pepper spray. So my advice is to buy one of these guns. You get a kit for 325 d Includes the gun. 10 pepper balls. 2 air. Capsules. 10 practice balls. 10 white hard balls. Also two clips. The company also sells tear gas spray which is only $20. I was really impressed with this company.

    • @neighborhoodlegal9929
      @neighborhoodlegal9929 3 місяці тому +2

      go for the nose

    • @rileydj8764
      @rileydj8764 2 місяці тому +1

      No, testing showed with heavy winter coats the balls bounce off without breaking open.

  • @jerrycadenhead2509
    @jerrycadenhead2509 6 місяців тому +1

    . I agree. As good as it is, it's pretty pricy. . Do you know of a "laucher" that is less expensive?

    • @sl4983
      @sl4983 3 місяці тому

      Someone mentioned Walther

  • @glennsammon4465
    @glennsammon4465 5 місяців тому

    there are loads of other options now. other companies have guns in 43, 50, as well as 68 caliber. and the smaller calibers are smaller guns. other companies make ammo and CO2 cartridges . Byrna also has a cheaper gun. and they also have 7 shot mags now.

  • @jhkindt968
    @jhkindt968 5 місяців тому +1

    this was really good. have you shot it yet? i'm curious if there are 'failures' that can occur as does with firearms such as stove piping, squids, jamming, etc. ?

    • @ProudAmericanMan
      @ProudAmericanMan 5 місяців тому

      From what I can tell. These things can fail, but with proper maintenance and training, you can minimize the risk.

    • @moose9410
      @moose9410 5 місяців тому +2

      I don’t see a malfunction happening that’s related to a semi auto handgun, the byrna doesn’t have a slide that recoils back and it doesn’t chamber a round, also it doesn’t have an ejector. And if it had a squib load it wouldn’t be detrimental as with a firearm

    • @jhkindt968
      @jhkindt968 5 місяців тому

      @@moose9410 I didn't phrase the question well. I understand the mechanical diff's b/t the two. I was asking if there are failures that can occur [as in] the instances of a semi-auto FA. If one of those pepper rounds exploded in the chamber from the burst of the cartridge... are there odds of that happening? If so what are those odds and are they more or less than a squid's odds? If there is any chance of that I would not get one.

    • @moose9410
      @moose9410 5 місяців тому

      @@jhkindt968 it’s very possible for a pepper ball to break in the barrel. That would NOT likely cause a squib load. But if it burst in the barrel, that’s one less ball you have and it’s also going to affect you because it’s so close to you. Every pepper ball and paintball guns operate alike, in that they’re operated with a bolt of some sort that hits the ball to create pressure to force it out the barrel, breakages happen with $2,000 paintball guns, so it is likely that this $400 pepper gun can and will at some point break a ball or two.
      Further more, I just wouldn’t trust it. If a bad guy is running toward you and you shoot him with this pepper ball launcher, the ball will break upon impact as it is designed to do, but because your attacker is moving toward you, the “cloud” of pepper fog will just move past him. Honestly, this is all just marketing to get $400 from people by fear mongering them. A $10 can of pepper spray is far more reliable. Or, of course a firearm can be a good tool as well.

  • @heathschofield8100
    @heathschofield8100 3 місяці тому

    Good video. Someday we will be like Star Trek where we will have the phaser. You can set the weapon to stun or kill.

  • @rodneybarnett3307
    @rodneybarnett3307 8 місяців тому +6

    You don't have to do a course if you have a guard card in ca you don't have to take a test for chemical rounds and a SD model kit with 2 clips and 2 rounds of ammo and co2 cartridges for $390

  • @kingterence1598
    @kingterence1598 4 місяці тому

    Question: Should I load 5 pepper ball spray units or maybe have a kinetic round first in the chamber to stun the attacker then 4 pepper balls? I'm wondering if the force of a kinetic round is more painful ON IMPACT than the pepper ball ones? Thoughts anyone?

    • @southbirdsouthbird
      @southbirdsouthbird 4 місяці тому +5

      I've had three Byrnas. (One for me, one for my wife, one stoIen out of my stupidly unlocked car.) Great functionality, but in my opinion too big and clunky. They could make it smaller and slimmer. . . I have the new 7-round magazine in my LE with a laser sight. Very intimidating to the perp. Very accurate. Very powerful. I load the first 4 (top) as kinetic rounds. Those are very hard and painful and should deter any bad guy, especially with shots to the chest, neck or face. (Saw a video where a homeowner dozing on his couch shot a 6'6", 300 lb. drunken intruder just once in the knee and put him on the ground until police arrived.) Keep in mind that if you are in a stressful self-defense situation your instinct is going to be shoot everything quickly. If somebody is crazy enough to keep coming after those 4 painful rounds then the rest of my magazine are pepper balls. I've tested them (inadvertently - I was down wind of my outdoor target) and they are completely, instantaneously disabling. . . Keep in mind that Byrna itself is now warning that the pepper ball rounds in the 7-round magazine could fracture from the extra pressure of that magazine. You don't want that stuff in your face or your house. So my advice is to save the pepper balls as a last resort, whether you use the 5- or 7-round magazine.

    • @jonathansandovaltrades
      @jonathansandovaltrades 3 місяці тому

      @@southbirdsouthbird what kind of holster do you have that fits your attachment? a link provided would be appreciated

  • @davidliddle9033
    @davidliddle9033 3 місяці тому

    I saw somewhere Tasers are only about 70% effective, also I've heard that officer got electric shock when wire touched his arm.

  • @petemcpeterson6205
    @petemcpeterson6205 2 місяці тому +5

    The bad part is if this thing is easily misidentified as a real gun the guy holding it is going to get smoked by the guy with an actual firearm.

  • @JonMann-pi3bt
    @JonMann-pi3bt 3 місяці тому

    Question: once you load the CO2 cartridge how long is it effective in the Byrna?

    • @PDSClasses
      @PDSClasses  2 місяці тому

      The CO2 cartridge is not punctured until you fire the first shot. Until you fire that first shot, the cartridge can stay in the gun indefinitely without leaking.

    • @johnscott2746
      @johnscott2746 2 місяці тому

      With mine, I can shoot both magazines and then reload and fire them again with no loss of power. I think about 30 rounds would be pushing it. If you mean how long will the co2 cartridge last if you fire it once and then set it down , the manual says it will take about 36 hours for it to completely leak out.

  • @alancranford3398
    @alancranford3398 5 місяців тому +2

    TASER C-2 has a 30-second pulse cycle. The directions for us civilians is activate, then place the C2 on the ground and RUN AWAY--RUN AWAY,

  • @dgriffin6074
    @dgriffin6074 4 місяці тому +2

    UR correct: expensive launcher AND ammo. The launcher is bulky; I suppose because of the 0.68 caliber balls it has to fire. I think that's the same caliber as standard pain ball gun. I hope Byrna will have some competition in the ammo realm to reduce prices. BTW, there may be "generic" 0.68 caliber ball ammo that works and is cheaper. I shirk from carrying mine because it's far too big for my pockets, including jacket pockets. I think a belly pack is the answer; Byrna does sell what looks like a backpack, but will one really have time to remove it AND grab the "gun" before it's too late??

    • @bp6877
      @bp6877 14 днів тому

      I had similar experiences with mine, which is why I don't recommend it as a self defense tool; you're better off with mace.

  • @MobileDecay
    @MobileDecay 7 місяців тому +4

    I wanna buy this so I can shoot my burrito with pepper balls. 😋😋😋

  • @fishslayersocal9345
    @fishslayersocal9345 7 місяців тому +4

    I tried to order the tear pepper loads here in California and I was told not for sale in the state in California

  • @josephtrenda2651
    @josephtrenda2651 4 місяці тому +1

    How long would a co2 cartridge be effective when left in the gun? It would seem that it would lose effectiveness over a short period of time, so you would have to load a new cartridge every time you go out, that is a lot of waste and money on cartridges you won't use

    • @tjrl339
      @tjrl339 4 місяці тому +1

      Once "opened / pierced" the CO2 cartridge will only be useable for a couple of days. HOWEVER if you have an unopened cartridge in the weapon, it will stay ready for use almost indefinitely. This is covered on the Byrna website, the first trigger operation pierces the CO2 cartridge, so you always have your weapon ready for instant use.

    • @poppopcertified
      @poppopcertified 2 місяці тому

      it can sit indefinitely until pierced and ready to use

  • @MickaelFjaerePhotography
    @MickaelFjaerePhotography 2 місяці тому

    How was thinking on buying one, but after so many videos I saw on youtube it haven't convinced me yet that this is possible to stop a person or persons trying to hurt you or your family or else... Still looking for alternatives sadly...

  • @chriswedgworth
    @chriswedgworth 8 місяців тому +5

    How would you find out if its legal locally

    • @davidliddle9033
      @davidliddle9033 3 місяці тому

      Google your towns ordinances, put your towns: name/local ordinances.

  • @danoesq2
    @danoesq2 6 місяців тому +1

    Pro- if you're in a state that allows pepper balls it's great. Con- if you're in CA for home self defense buy a firearm.

  • @user-xo4qe4ns4c
    @user-xo4qe4ns4c 4 місяці тому

    Will it shoot any .68 caliber paint ball?

    • @karenhowell7850
      @karenhowell7850 3 місяці тому

      May cause jamming. Not good QC on cheap paintball rounds.

  • @botheodore5005
    @botheodore5005 5 місяців тому +1

    We carry one in each vehicle. Most likely would be used in a road rage incident. The lethal is right next to it!

  • @PlayingInVestapol
    @PlayingInVestapol 7 місяців тому +61

    Why do states make it so hard for Law Abiding Citizen to get firearms? Meanwhile ,Criminals get them with no concern about what the law says. California ,New York ,Yall need to wake up.

    • @MatthewRRader
      @MatthewRRader 6 місяців тому +1

      Excellent presentation 😊

    • @NotThisShipSister1
      @NotThisShipSister1 6 місяців тому +1

      @@MatthewRRaderit really is, short sweet and to the point!
      Well, I guess it was not real sweet…lol

    • @dannymckinsey208
      @dannymckinsey208 6 місяців тому +1

      Do you REALLY think we don’t have WHATEVER we want???????? You guys kill me!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @periechontology
      @periechontology 6 місяців тому

      They don't awake up, they just start moving to red states when things get bad, and then begin voting to change the laws over there into the mess that they just ran away from.

    • @antonioguamil3275
      @antonioguamil3275 5 місяців тому

      Criminals get their guns illegally. It's not your job to protect yourself, that's why the police exist. Owning a gun is a precautionary measure. The reason why your gun needs to be licensed and registered, so law enforcement can separate you from the criminals who posses loose fire arms. People don't need to wake up, you just need to inform yourself, of your state's gun ordnance and regulation laws.

  • @collettdave
    @collettdave 7 місяців тому +10

    Dude's voice sounds just like David Letterman 😁

  • @bp6877
    @bp6877 14 днів тому

    Byrna was my precursor to a firearm. Like narrator, I questioned its usefulness; I've concluded it's not a prudent choice: You're better off with mace, which is a lot lighter. 1. It looks like a firearm; that's a great way to get you shot; if someone thinks you've got a gun, that someone, whether it be an officer or a criminal, is going to shoot you. 2. It's large and heavy, making it impractical to carry or conceal. I agree w/ narrator that it's probably best for rent-a-cop law enforcement, that can carry openly. The only practical use to deter an aggressive animal. I plan to sell mine; I wouldn't gift it to anyone I cared about, because I think the risks of bad outcome are too high. Stick with mace if you can't carry a real firearm.

  • @RickCantrell-ep2gd
    @RickCantrell-ep2gd 6 місяців тому +3

    I would also believe it would pose a legal problem if you deployed it and a bystander had a chronic respiratory problem, just my thoughts.

    • @kp2874
      @kp2874 4 місяці тому +1

      if the bystander is closer to the bad guy than you trying to defend yourself from your life being threatened, then bystander has more to worry about than their repsiratory system

    • @davidliddle9033
      @davidliddle9033 3 місяці тому

      Court would hold you responsible, that's way courts work 🤷

  • @Hertert68
    @Hertert68 7 місяців тому

    I load all with MAX

  • @chastityjames4471
    @chastityjames4471 7 місяців тому

    👍👍

  • @MoonCabinet
    @MoonCabinet 7 місяців тому

    are C02 cartrages safe?

    • @zo4712
      @zo4712 6 місяців тому

      Yes, provided they are properly stored at the right temperature.

    • @billcory7479
      @billcory7479 5 місяців тому

      Can’t fly with them.

  • @inksun0123
    @inksun0123 6 місяців тому +1

    Great! You give a chance to criminals sue you in court for health damage.

    • @patc1309
      @patc1309 6 місяців тому +3

      Not worried about being sued in a life threatening situation

  • @malanstecker
    @malanstecker 6 днів тому

    What is OC? Is it Orange County?

    • @PDSClasses
      @PDSClasses  4 дні тому

      Oleoresin capsicum. The pepper oil that makes pepper spray hot.

  • @stevenmay2937
    @stevenmay2937 4 місяці тому +1

    my was $300. prices coming down

  • @mikegianfrancesco9431
    @mikegianfrancesco9431 5 місяців тому

    To bad they can’t ship into Bronx ny

  • @rickyharrington7082
    @rickyharrington7082 5 місяців тому

    So do you think it's worth 400 to you?

  • @JimmyWalls-ib7nl
    @JimmyWalls-ib7nl Місяць тому

    Tazer pulse gives a 30 second ride designed for the public

  • @rosreif4033
    @rosreif4033 6 місяців тому +2

    Most taser do not work as you think

  • @James-i9c
    @James-i9c 14 днів тому

    Byrna is band In California.

  • @josephthunderhorse8793
    @josephthunderhorse8793 2 місяці тому

    God forbid that you come in contact with a drunk gun carrier with you carrying one of these...you sir did a great job...l think your querry on legality of the gas pellets is correct...not legal everywhere...good point about the expense...too much for a questionable defense

  • @tortureddrummer
    @tortureddrummer 7 місяців тому +1

    California comment.......... you need a guard card first, then you get your other permits, such as OC permit. Then you can buy things like a spray in a can that's more than 2oz.

  • @anthony-ju6qo
    @anthony-ju6qo 6 місяців тому +4

    Just got rid of my hand guns due to the stress of possibly using one. In 2020, I took a CCW course here in FL and the instructor gave us a gun law book that's two inches thick. All I need to do is make the wrong move or decision in self defense..I'm in jail. There are so many variables that one must do in case of an situation. For me, it's not worth it. So I decided to look into a less lethal device. If anyone out there has doubts about owning an actual firearm, there is a reason. Check out different alternatives like this and free your mind of "Grey area Gun Laws". Because if you make the wrong decision and kill someone, you can't go back in time. Your Done.

  • @reversalmushroom
    @reversalmushroom 7 місяців тому

    A taser overrides control of your muscles? Then what's with the videos I've seen where a taser has no effect on someone?

    • @PDSClasses
      @PDSClasses  7 місяців тому +4

      In order for the taser to work as described, both probes have to hit and connect to the body. They also have to be at least 4 inches apart when they hit. If not, then it only causes pain. This is why criminals learn to wave their arms in an attempt to break the wires connecting the launcher to the probes. If they break one of the very thin wires, NMI (neuromuscular incapacitation) does not occur.