Salt Supply S2 Blows Byrna LE Apart in Performance! Wow!!!
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- Опубліковано 10 бер 2024
- There is absolutely no power comparison between the Salt Supply S2 and the Byrna LE! The proof are in the numbers!
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I placed an order for the LE 4 days ago, luckily it didn't ship out yet so I was able to cancel and order a Salt Supply s2 instead! :)
Outstanding demonstration between Byrna's LE and Salt Supply's new S2. I had the very same experience with my LE, so I also purchased the S2 during the Shot Show 2024. S2 extremely consistent output between 15-20 joules. With the exception of the LE's first shot, the S2 blows it away. I still own the HDXL and SD. They are both consistent at around 10 joules. I like the SD because it's easily concealable to carry, especially at S.O.B. (small-of-back.) Whoever designs a launcher the size of an SD (or smaller,) that shoots consistently between 15-20 joules will dominate this market. Your excellent demonstrate is proof positive!!
I second that thought regarding smaller design with power! It seams like the launchers keep getting larger, I like my SD for the same reasons!
Yep you nailed it. Smaller with that amount of power and it's gold.
Feels like I’ve been screwed buying a good holster for the LE got $$ tied up in them. sad …. but thx for the heads up great videos . 👍🏻👊🏼
Great review! Was considering a Byrna, but am gonna look at the Salt
Byrna is going down as a company. Better and cheaper options out there.
They may if they don’t start making a more powerful and consistent marker, the competition is closing in on the market!
Thank you for the education and review!
Do you know how a company loses market share? Slowly at first, then all at once! Your video, convinced me to go Salt S2.
Outstanding test as always. I do rely like my S2. I wish I could have done a comparison video. But both my Byrnas broke a long time ago and I can’t bring myself to give Byrna any more money until they get their act together.
Thanks for the great video. And I hope you enjoy the S2 as well.
I would say the S2 is probably the most consistent fps launcher I have tested and has good out of the box power! Byrna has to wake up!
Wow!! That is what I call," the proof is in the pudding"!! I'd like to know if you've heard from anybody from Byrna and what they had to say about this video.
I'm glad I seen this because I was about to purchase a Byrna!! Thank you Sir for this video!
No response from Byrna but videos like this will hopefully force them to up their game, they are definitely behind the times when it comes to power and consistency! Thanks for watching
I'm so glad they don't sell them here in the UK. HDR 68 all the way for me.
Yeah I have the 50 version and the HDB.
Agree 100 percent Mark!
Really consistent first 8 shots! Thank you for posting this and how many shots you get before running out of CO2. They (Salt Supply) seem to have figured out optimizing the power. Prior to the repair were the two launchers comparable for the first 8 shots?
12 shots gets you down to 180 fps and that pretty much is it! The LE is advertised to have a 7 shot average of 340 fps and it is capable of hitting that mark when new but the first few shots are always high fps and drops. This test shows the S2 had a 7 shot average of 364 and a 10 shot average of 350. It is very consistent!
Excellent comparison video! For Byrna to be charging $479 for a “professional” launcher that gives subpar numbers is ridiculous! Sounds like that high markup is really going to pay for their advertising. There are only 2 things I like about the Byrna, and that’s the “point and shoot” technology, and it’s a little more compact. The pushing the button on the bottom may not always be ideal when carrying outside the home. That is where the Byrna has a huge advantage. However, in the home I see the Salt Supply along with a modified HDR and HDP 50 being my “go to” launchers.
You hit it right on the nose and that is exactly how I feel about it! I probably won’t carry it but it will be in my vehicle in case of a road rage incident etc.
Yeah, home defense and carrying around are 2 different things. HDR too big to carry, so it is better suited for a HD launcher.
What would be a good alternative luncher other than the LE??
Well done...
Thank you for this post. As a woman in Cali, this seems a very strong option right under buying an actual firearm which has its hoops to jump thru. I have someone from my past who recently contacted me, and my gut instincts and this person's behavior, I need something quick just in case. I think this is affordable, consistent, powerful, easily grabbed on Amazon. I think this is the one after much review watching of other less than lethals
You are wise to trust your instincts, that can be quite scary god luck and stay safe!
Be safe out there.
I won’t address the power of the Byrna, but long story short, I have had reliability problems with the LE, and the SD. It’s been frustrating sending these models back for repairs.
Byrna’s customer service has been good, I will say that. But my confidence is shaky right now. Hopefully this latest repair will hold.
The bad guy could be carrying a firearm, so consistency is crucial.
Crucial.
You are so right, consistency is crucial! Thanks for dropping by!
I’m sold very good video
Thank you for the test you did on the BYRNA vs SALT. I thought it was very methodical and the way testing should be done. I bought a BYRNA LE a couple of months ago and am very happy with it. However I don't have the Chronographs to do what you did. Because of your test I bought a SALT and anxiously waiting for it. There is one thing I haven't found anyone has done, and that is test Kinetic rounds. For example, You have the BYRNA rounds that measure .6845" which has about .006" clearance in the bore of the BYRNA. Amazon has a very nice Kinetic round that measures .6785". My curiosity is, does the smaller Amazon round affect the FPS a lot or a little or at all. Having more clearance in the bore theoretically should lessen the FPS. But no one knows how much or how little. Would you consider testing these two rounds? The cost difference between the BYRNA and Amazon are quite significant! Thank you in advance for your answer!
I will look into what Amazon is offering, in the mean time I would head over to Less Lethal For Dummies UA-cam channel Sean has tested a lot of different round! Thanks for watching!
Glad to hear that or should I say sorry to hear that. I actually thought about buying an LE. Guess I'll hold off for now..
Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks, for what Byrna is charging you would and should expect better. I would be interested to see if any difference is made in the s2 with different CO2 cartridges such as the Byrna, Crossman and Umarex.
Sean at Less Lethal for Dummies just did a video a few days ago testing different C02 cartridges with the S2 and found only marginal fps differences. Thanks for dropping by!
Umarex BB gun shoots 462 FPS and cost half of what Byrna wants.
It’s a physically larger launcher. That certainly plays a part in the power differential. And they have taken the appropriate time to tune it optimally. The results speak for themselves. Great job as always.
How’s the accuracy of the Salt S2?
A physically larger launcher isn't going to account for power in these guns. The LE is losing gas somewhere, it has nothing to do with it being smaller.
I've had a HD since they came out and still working fine. Keep your salt 😀😀
The HD and SD models are solid performers and my SD has been very reliable! Unfortunately the LE has been a complete headache for me!
Phenomenal demo, I hope Salt S2 is legal in California so I can purchase one.
I’m pretty sure you can purchase right off of the Salt website and have it shipped to California with no chemicals of course! Thanks for watching!!!
How loud is Byrna vs S2?
I saw you had videos comparing decibel levels for air guns, would be interesting to have a comparison for these less lethal launchers as well. Thanks!
Nice suggestion I will have to do a comparison!
More proof that all Byrna wants is your money. When people can't admit the truth they just walk away. Yours is another great video proving the S2 trumps Byrna and that they are falling down to the bottom of the list.
My Byrna got stolen out of my rental, and was about to replace it with another Byrna, but after this video, SCREW BRYNA! I’m about to buy an S2, based on your great video, Sir! Was wondering if the S2 can sit with the Co2 cartridge in it, without piercing it, so that is ready when ya need it to be?!?
Yes the C02 can be stored indefinitely in the S2 without piercing and and I keep mine in my vehicle at all times! Thanks for watching!!!
I'm curious how much less powerful the "repaired" byrna LE is compared to a new one.
Also has the Salt ever been repaired? This could also effect the test.
Also did you fire the byrnas first shot with the CO2 cartridge pre-pierced with the safety on or did you fire the first shot without doing so (can make the first shot be half the power).
Also since you swapped for every shot instead of just consistently firing with the same gun how much CO2 was lost between firing and writing things down?
I personally prefer the byrna because it's magazine fed which means you can have a faster reload time if the situation requires it. Also the magazine has a tool built into it to allow for easy CO2 swaps.
I think these are both great options for launchers it just depends on what you're using them for or how you plan on using them.
Thank you for your input and great questions! This is my second Byrna LE, my first one also failed and after repair did not have the same power so they replaced it with this one and it blew a seal within 48 hours. Just like my original LE once it has been repaired it doesn’t have the same power as when new. In this test I pierced the C02 when on safety so the first shot had full power. The Salt S2 has never been repaired and if the Byrna LE was new the results most likely be in the Byrna’s favor (I think). No loss of C02 between shots and the pause actually raises the fps. I do like the Byrna system much better for the exact reasons you stated, the salt makes a good truck gun but too large to carry. Stay safe!!
What are the physical dimensions of the S2? I am considering SD for concealability and am wondering how the S2 compares in size as well as performance. Seems from a lot of comments that Byrna may have some quality issues.
Just got the LE to replace the Tippman TipX which is very large but never fails, and has the same pull the trigger to activate mechanism. Wish I saw your channel before purchasing. Right out of the box it wont fire unless you press the mag in while shooting. They said they will repair it but now sounds like this is a serious quality control or engineering problem, or both. Very disappointed, they lost my business and wonder if is worth trying to fix it myself.
Byrna claims they test each marker to make sure it is working properly, someone was sleeping on the job!
@@airgunnerreviews7888 No doubt!
Wish I'd seen this video before I bought my LE, it does have problems. I don't think I could really be safe with the Byrna LE. I got the s1. I should've known Salt would come out with a better one.
Highly considering this one after my LE had to get repaired. Only question I have is if it would fit in the same safe box I have. Do you know if it would fit in a box with these dimensions: 9.25” x 7.15” x 1.75”
Yes it will fit! The S2 measures 8-7/8” L x 6-7/8” x 1-3/8”H
well the problem not to sound like i’m on there side but the le is not ment to be shot that often as in i was told it best to have one u shoot and one u don’t
Byrna’s slogan is “train early train often”. My first LE lasted 11 months and this is the second LE lasted 2 days and failed on the 4th C02. At $480.00 they should last a little longer and you shouldn’t feel like if you use it you’re going to break it.
The EP shoots about what the le is doing, but I've seen some les work good too, I think the EP is best, it does like 3 mags before it's out, but around 10-12 joules before gas gets low!
I agree the EP and also the SD are very reliable and I get a lot of favorable comments about them! The LE not so much…
The Byrna is superior in every way minus the fps. You’re not supposed to stand there in a gun fight, the idea is to shoot and escape.
Which one has the best trigger pull over all?
In my opinion it is the Salt Supply. With the Byrna when you squeeze the trigger the barrel moves backwards towards the handle to cover the projectile so it is spongy to say the least, it’s still smooth but not crisp like the Salt!
The Salt looks so big and bulky, and what is the knob on the bottom of handle?
It is big and bulky! The knob on the bottom of handle is to puncture the C02 cartridge.
I just ordered the $300 s2 starter kit!
Awesome!!!
Proofs in the puddin’ as they say.
Sorry i didn’t include your channel in my latest video regarding the Salt S2 but i had already completed the filming.
Great comparison if you want to call it that. Salt just walked all over the Byrna and then some using underbore sized projectiles even.
No problem I just uploaded late last night! I just watched your segment and that is so interesting!!!
Have you tested the Grimburg Gavel yet... About $500
I tested the original Gavle and was super accurate and powerful! Unfortunately it had multiple failures and gave it back, I understand there have been several improvements so I may revisit the newer version. I’m still not a fan of having to use both hands to engage.
How do you chamber a round for the 5 +1??
Load 5 rounds in the clip and insert into launcher than remove the clip and you will notice the clip will only have 4 projectiles than add another round in clip. The first round is loaded into the breach!
@@airgunnerreviews7888 cool, thank you! I always wondered how that works given these don’t have slides. About to pop the seal on my first Air Gun (salt supply s2) thanks to your videos. I have my CCW & will be carrying it along side my Glock 26
Does the salt also fire kinetic rounds?
It sure does!
@@airgunnerreviews7888 Thank you ! I couldn't get an answer from the robot on the Salt website 👍
@@Raykenn1It has the power to fire the heavier rounds where Byrna can't fire them without losing a lot of power.
@@Joreel Thanks 👍
Recheck your math… the Byrna never shot under 280, yet the 12-shot avg says 265. Excel says it’s 298.5 avg 12-shot for Byrna. Salt still wins with those first shots being so consistent at 326.66 (12 shot avg)
I stand corrected! I rechecked and you are correct, good catch! I’m pretty sure in a self defense situation it is unlikely you will be reloading so the biggest consideration would be the first clip. Byrna 7 round average is 310 (12.88 Joules) and the Salt S2 six round average is 365. (17.85 Joules). Thanks for keeping me in check and for watching!!!
Byrna is more focused on clout and that bald guy meeting gun bunnies at shot show. HDR .68 and S2 is the way to go.
Where is your S2 made? The SaltSupply website says "Made in the USA" but the S2 they send me clearly says on the gun "Made in Taiwan". I tried to contact them about this but no reply. I think they need to clear that up.
My S2 also says made in Taiwan and if you go onto their website and expand the picture of just the black S2 you will notice the launcher also states “made in Taiwan”. Certainly doesn’t look like they’re making them here!
I truly hate that I bought the Byrna and wasted all that money on it and then wasted more money to make it look normal...I'll wait a little longer to see how salt supply customer service is compared to Byrna which I'm sure is much better and I'm buying a Salt S2
Salt Supply Customer service is amazing. They're probably one of the best I've experienced in the last few years when it comes to getting things done quickly.
How is it a waste of money if it works when you need it?
Ive contacted byrna letting them know my LE gets consistent 10-12 joules average. I feel ripped off. My LE performs like what they advertise for an SD.
If Byrna doesn’t start listening to their customers instead of making excuses they will be faced with layoffs for sure!
@@airgunnerreviews7888 the problem is the majority of byrna buyers don't chronograph their LE and have no idea its under performing what they advertise.
This is why I'm glad I stuck with my Hi Viz instead of upgrading to the LE.
Of course Air Gunner Review did teach me a few things about maintenance on my Byrna last Spring so it's stayed pretty consistent in the FPS when I've been using it... Over 1000+ rounds and counting.
I have to say I would have went with the crono readings with the one furthest away because that would have been more realistic if you were actually using it.
In hindsight you are right it would have been more realistic than a reading before the projectile has left the barrel! Thanks for your input!
My byrna never dropped that far. Never. Dude you got a lemon for an le
My first LE was much better but blew a seal and after repair there was a major loss of power so Byrna sent me a knew LE which lasted 2 days and blew the same seal and again after repair I am getting the same crappy results! I sent my video to Byrna and they say there is nothing wrong with the launcher as tests will vary.
@@airgunnerreviews7888 I’m sorry about that mines been good. Listen salt s2 is great too I love the white I know it’s a crazy color but I saw a video on it with the black line on the barrel nice.
The white S2 looks sharp!
@@airgunnerreviews7888would white be smart vs yellow for someone making it clear that it's all self defense?
I’ve noticed the byrna fades fast after first shot Watched a lot of videos on them
Consistency has been a big disappointment with Byrna LE! Thanks for watching!!!
I just put up a video today on the longevity of Byrna. Fortunately I did not get a dud in my LE performs great but by far the salt S2 is a more superior weapon. Just like I don't carry the LE on my person, I would not carry the S2 either. Although I do own the S2 and I do keep it in the house as a less-lethal option.
I just finished watching your video and it is always nice to hear a different perspective on Byrna! I still love my SD and has been a solid performer and is the smallest LL on the market. My first LE lasted 10 months before failure and after repair the power was very inconsistent and sent a video to Byrna, it was sent back and replaced after they tested it for themselves. The second LE failed within 2 days of ownership! I am hoping they will redesign the LE to be more reliable and take off the bulky boost off the front. Thanks for stopping by and appreciate your comment!
Is S2 same length as HDP 50?
Very close but thicker do to being 68 caliber and heavier
@@airgunnerreviews7888 so this one is much heavier ? Damn
Heavier and bulkier!
I have the hds 68 and hdr 50 that I keep in my vehicle for self protection and I feel comfortable and confident using those platforms. Byrna, unless you have over 20k followers won’t give a darn about what you have to say. It’s really disappointing and disrespectful to the average consumer. This new S2 seems like an economic and reliable platform for one to defend themselves.
Umarex makes very nice launchers at an affordable price and the S2 offers decent power out of the the box and has proven to be reliable as well! Byrna really needs to step up their game on power and reliability! Thanks for dropping by!
I bought the Umer X for $100 it look just like that gun you’re showing as the salt too and it leaked like a sieve every cartridge I put in leaked you said not to use Crossman why do they make these guns so crappy that they leak so. I just bought a byrna LE I’m not gonna take it apart I’m not gonna shoot different balls out of it I’m gonna use byrna 12 g CO2‘s with the oilers. Hopefully they’ll be no problems or I’ll send that back to and that’ll be the end of my pepper gun experience 🤷🏻♂️
I wish you the best of luck with your new purchase! I would highly recommend getting yourself a chronograph if you don’t already have one! The SD model is always consistent from marker to marker but the LE power is all over the place.
Why can't we use Crossman
If they tell you to only use their projectiles and Co2, then thats what I will do.
Holy shit i guess you werent kidding
The Byrna is a good looking pistol, and I so really wanted it. However, performance cries King. So, I've made up my mind. Just placed an order for the S2.
The S2 is a solid performer!
Get yourself a Grimburg and save yourself a headache !!!
If only it didn’t take both hands to activate!
The Grimberg is great, but the whole twist to activate is kind of an issue, especially in a high stress situation. Hopefully the Solstice will fix this issue.
@@airgunnerreviews7888 I have one. The good thing about the twist is it is mechanically very simple, less chance of a failure. My first choice though
if you are in a situation that you have time to twist it, as it hits really hard compared to the others!
@@MultiSkyman1 the loading system is a deal breaker. i need extra mags....
@@glenng.6041 Agreed. With only a 5-round capacity, the loading system makes the Grimburg an unreliable self-defense weapon.
I just ordered and received my Mace 2 Pepper Launcher made by Salt Supply. This product offering is amazing! Mine is yellow in color which I like. I had looked at Byrna and the LE model but was not convinced enough t to purchase it. Glad I waited for the S2 to come out . About $200 cheaper than the Byrna LE and much more powerful. The effective range of the S2 was a major factor in my decision to purchase the Byrna LE. Byrna products seem overpriced and overrated in my opinion.
I'll keep my byrna. Never had a problem and I don't need two hands to operate it. The byrna magazine style is also much better and faster to operate.
I totally agree the Byrna is a better choice for those reasons you politely point out! Hopefully you won’t have to deal with the problems I have had with mine. Thanks for your input!
I had ordered an LE but saw your videos and just canceled it. Trigger problems no thank you.
I've been posting this for over a year, I don't do Byrna because they don't like disabled people
What does being disabled have to do with Byrna? I'm disabled and I use a Byrna without any issues and I haven't had any problems with them as a company. Why do you think they don't like disabled people?
The Byrna is very consistent (ly low) after the 1st shot. ;-[
Exactly!
That Byrna strikes me as an overpriced nerf gun, but you're paying for a lot of advertising on TV right now.
Sooooo cancel my Byrna LE and get an S2?
The S2 is too big to conceal carry in my opinion but excellent for vehicle or a secondary home defense weapon. The LE is a better choice for carrying. Hope that explanation makes sense, thanks for dropping by!
@@airgunnerreviews7888 in terms of stopping power/effectiveness its pretty much the same thing then? Since concealment isn’t a concern yea.
The salt S2 has more consistent power and is built like a tank for 1/2 the price of the LE. I have also had two LE’s fail! I have shot about 800 rounds through the S2 with no issues. The first 2 or 3 shots with the LE will have more power than the S2 but the salt has more consistent power and averages higher fps when shooting the entire mag. If an intruder takes you by surprise the Byrna will pierce and shoot at the same time but the S2 you have to have time to pierce the C02 in order to fire and that could be a problem. Unfortunately there is no easy answer!
@@airgunnerreviews7888 Hmmm. That is a big concern of mine, in terms of self defense every second matters and having to charge/pierce the C02 seems risky. I guess if you charge it before going out or something it would slowly leak and compromise the FPS? Decisions decisions. No easy answer as you said. Great content thanks for replying!
I gotta give it to you for this well preformed and accurate video. No movie magic here Byrna! 👀
Thank you!
Salt sucks because of the power set up, from concealed carry the salt is snag prone and the reload system sucks love the power but just like the Grim they have the same bad nub in the butt that's my friend snag problem!
I've used my Byrna 2 ( twice) against individual male aggressors, 6-7 ft range placed my shots collar bone head areas worked fantastic able to get to my car and away ! All of you dudes test unrealistically not as in real situations
That is awesome you were able to successfully defend yourself with the Byrna! This test was really only about power and consistency, the very next video I put up was about conceal carrying the S2 and it was just to long and heavy for my liking but would be a good travel companion for a road rage incident. I’m not a big fan of the load system either!
How would you suggest they test it realistically? I'd really like to know as last I checked you can't just walk up to someone and shoot them with a Less Lethal launcher to see if it's effective as that's still illegal in all 50 states. And I'm pretty sure no one is crazy enough to let a LTL content creator shoot them in the face for "research purposes" so they can film it. So how would you suggest they test it in a real world situation?
That’s good to know. I just bought an LE. Reading the other comments has me bummed out.
Hah, I ordered the byrna le from the official website and it took over 2 months to get to me.
The same thing happened to me and Byrna told me it was a parts supply issue!
The Byrna looks better and has a good piercing system, but that’s about all! Power is really important, so is constantly! Byrna lacks BOTH after the first couple shots!
Accuracy is more important that f/s.
I totally agree, however; wouldn’t consistent f/s play a large role in good accuracy vs. inconsistent f/s?
I totally agree!
The Salt makes a nice sound! ;-]
My Byrna LE is very consistent.
Mine used to be until it went back for repairs!
@MWS67 I just found @airgunnerreviews788 videos, because my LE “blew its seal,” while I was actively using it to protect my dogs from a coyote assault. As I’d only ever fired a few practice shots, prior, the failure occurred with only about 40 shots from the launcher. I’m now faced with the prospect of requesting a repair, that will yield sub-par performance, or pitching the LE and buying a SALT or other.
Shame that Amazon declares they can’t ship the SALT (launcher, only - no ammo) to my Cali address…
@@ScottishTerror Sorry to hear that. I hope your dog is ok.
II had to have my LE replaced right out of the box because it had a bad valve or something. Was only getting 11-12 shots per co2 bottle. The replacement seems to work ok but if it ever fails, I'm done with them. I'm looking at the Huban GK1 .25 cal to replace it.
Byrna's customer service has always sucked bought mine6 years ago had go through a bunch of crap and posting on all their videos to get it fixed.
Good call Byrna doesn’t like negative feedback posts!
I have a Byrna SD and the Byrna TCR,... I like the way the Salt Supply S2 feels in the hand and the position of the C02/magazine. Although i do not own a chronograph... other peoples videos have shown me enough.
Im glad I waited and did not purchase an overpriced, underperforming LE.
I own the SD and TCR also and have no complaints! The S2 is a power house compared. Thanks for dropping by!
I apologize I just showed mine it a 68 also
I love it when people leave negative comments and then have to choke on their own ignorance 😂🤣😂
Wow, thank you very much. Berna performance was pathetic , I bought the EP and I am very disappointed
@byrna
You dropping the ball
These comments are depressing. I bought an LE but I’m in a city that they don’t ship to so shipping it in for repairs would be complicated. I just want to have it while walking at night but hope not to need it anyway.
Hopefully you will have better luck with your Byrna LE!
It should it's as big as a cannon 😂😂😂.
Nu truer words have been spoken, it is a cannon! 😂
@@airgunnerreviews7888 😆 🤣 😂
Salt S2. vs Byrna.
He used repaired models for both.
We need unprepared units for a reliable results.
True the Byrna was repaired by Byrna after the 2nd day of ownership and this is a replacement for my first LE that failed, when Byrna repairs them they don’t have the same power! The Salt was never repaired, I would have liked to have had the chance to use an un-repaired LE but they keep breaking.
What about the internal features? The chamber that fills with compressed air that fires the shot, are they the same size for your Apple to Apple comparison? It sounds like your not doing your homework before slamming a product. I didn’t hear anything about this! There a lot of things your not covering for your Apple to Apple comparison! You never say anything even of the different barrel lengths too!
Both launchers are 68 caliber and use 12 gram C02 and are in the 16 joules family. You will NEVER find two launchers with the same barrel size and internals. These types of comparisons are all over UA-cam, Ryobi vs Dewalt, Apple vs Android, Samsung vs Sony, Ford vs Chevy. Do any of these have the same features? Of course not!
I bought a byrna LE and first round good second round good third round the barrel came out and had a catastrophic failure.
I wasn't able to shoot even a whole magazine . Wawwwe Wawwwe waaaa 😮
If such a product fails when you need it it could be matter of life and death .From now on I will depend 💯 on my hand gun,pray and hope to naver use it at least I won't be holding my cock in my hand if and when I need to protect me and my loved ones.
And there are plenty of reliable hand guns at the same price point as the Byrna!
So apples to apples the barrel length are the exact same? It a face a longer barrel length will give you a greater velocity! So no apples to apples is your test! This is a false test!
GRIMBURG GAVLE 👍
You're kidding, right? Carry it while playing shuffleboard.
the you had to do all that makes the bryna the winner , not trying to kill .
🎻 🎻 🎻 🥱
Bro what you actually did you showed how much better the byrna is then the salt your incorrect sir what I saw was the byrna shot really hot the first shot that should b plenty with the oc shot after the first shot with the byrna it consistently stayed at 280 ish fps the salt was higher yea but after 9 shots it dropped to way low numbers the byrna stayed consistent the whole time you just made your self look pretty dumb sir
I’d you bothered reading all the other comments you are alone in your thinking! The Byrna had only one hot shot (406fps) before dropping off 100 fps so if you missed with the first shot your screwed. After 6 shots the Byrna dropped off to 292 fps (11.43 joules) while the S2 6 shot average was 365 fps (17.85 joules). It is not practical to think you are going to have time to reload in a self defense situation so most people would rather have the most amount of power within the first magazine. You can throw insults all you want but facts are facts.
@@airgunnerreviews7888 don't miss with the first shot the lol I like the byrna better so mayb I'm just biased lol but if you panick Ina high stress situation you shouldn't own one of these cause your putting not just your welfare at risk of injury but everyone in proximity idk who you are you get shot with a projectile with the pepper mix traveling fast enough to break the round and deploy the pepper mix your all done so you can like the salt if you want I prefer the byrna I saw consistency with both of them and a huge fall off with the salt after the last round tye guy fired while the byrna fired around 230 the entire time
Back again. Another thing, one a 68 caliber the other a 50 caliber no apples to apples there either. Your ignorance is showing.
50 cal 😂
It's too big
Definitely too large to carry but it is a nice launcher to keep in the vehicle. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment!
Wish I saw this before buying my LE just 2 weeks ago! 🤦🏻♂️
Byrna is an expensive toy ive use the umerex hpd 50 way way cheaper more power once you do a tiny mod thanks for putting the bryna truth out there
Thanks for watching!
Byrna is just an overpriced pretty weapon but it's the last one I'd ever use as any type of protection it's an expensive toy gun