I sold all my 40k armies and moved over to AoS at the start of 4th. Having an absolute blast. The game is better, the models are cooler, and the fanbase is infinitely more chill than 40k
As an AoS player, hearing "a Boltgun is what a spacemarine has, so it has to be the weapon that a Marine has" without any irony is hilarious to me - i think that is part of main difference between the communities - almost noone cares about WYSIWYG in AoS as long as I can tell what they are and a lot of 40K players seem to get their panties twisted over that From what i've seen, most of the AoS community was very glad about the recent change of weapons in AoS from Swords or Spears to just "Celestial Weapons" or whatever - so much more creative freedom to do conversions or your own models for something instead of the prescribed "this is what they need to have...always"
10th edition 40k has done this as well though with wysiwyg. it was more of a 'we are fed up of the changes and no longer care what it is equipped with'
From what I understand AoS is deliberately designed to be open and evolving so that they can continue to move the lore forward and release new ranges in perpetuity. I think the entire point is that it won't ever be set in stone.
@@toptopplayer-f7n I have no idea, never read it or played, I'm just an old square baser who's listened to ex-GW staff talk about why they killed of WHFB. Essentially GW need to squat old ranges and release new ones in order to not go under so having a lore that can be constantly moved forward allows that to happen.
Indeed, it was designed to be an open canvas to enable new products and developments that generate sales and broaden the potential uptake of the game. The Old World/FB was perceived as stagnant. Jordan Sorcery has a very informative interview with Alan Merrit on the subject on his channel. (That was the company point of view; I much prefer the Old World/FB, but I am not a PLC.)
@@toptopplayer-f7n oh you mean the old world? No the problem there was that they had no way to incentivise people to buy new minis for armies they already owned, they need to squat mini ranges and replace them to sustain their business model. The old world setting did not allow for that to be done, remaking High Elf spearmen or whatever for the 3rd time wasn’t going to get the kind of sales they wanted because high elf players already had the spearmen they needed. It just had nowhere to go. With AoS they can do whatever they want to keep selling new minis.
I would love them to bring in a hidden splinter faction for humanity that have existed since the Dark Age of Technology. Neither Imperial or heretic aligned, but technologically miles ahead. Like the Interex
As far as I'm concerned AoS is much better than 40k, both models and rules. I really like the new Spearhead game but this is because I much prefer skirmish level games. I also prefer Fantasy games generally. Almost all Sci-Fi games run into the shooting range problem where the range of guns just doesn't make sense. Fantasy games still run into this problem but for some reason I can accept it more in a fantasy game than I can in a Sci-Fi game.
This podcast warmed my soul. So supportive of Paul and his journey, without be patronising. Objective and subjective feedback and interest in the individual's progress. Really great hobby content - other creators should take not. And - that is one amazing massive rat. If I have painted that I would be absolutely stoked. Well done, Paul.
I think the thing people are realizing is that 40k creates the lore first and then creates miniatures around it while AOS creates minis first and then creates lore around it. Thats why 40k has better lore and AOS has better minis. Just a theory though.
Next week, I just want a full 10 hour Let's Play with James playing Space Marine 2 all the way through. Or at least, 10 hours of James wiping repeatedly on the first level of SM2.
Think it’s worth considering a pretty huge chunk of the aos base went through whfb being destroyed, and those who stuck around or came back later following that ended up being cool with it - we lost a lot of hateful chuds or people less tolerant of change in that process who didn’t move on, which i think tees up gw to be braver and not get the sort of backlash they do on the 40k side
The issue GW have is two fold with settings. In WHF the world was "The World" and barring regions of Ind and far east, they had painted in a lot of the setting, and it left little room for new factions, and they leaned away from those regions because of the fear of creating appropriating charactures. So the setting felt like it was set in stone, so new units etc would be met with "Well where have those come from". We see similar in 40k with the new tank for Imperial Guard. Now this becomes two fold because the other issue GW has is that they can't just put any old concept art because of the Chapter House case - they only put out new art if there is to be a model of it, which brings us to the point of "New tank huh, how come we never heard of it before?" This also then is similar to the issues we have with Primaris. And the cynical collectors see this as a cash grab. AoS has none of this because a) the setting the magical post-apocalyptic so there are thousands of lost empires for things to be recovered from. b) the plot moves forward at pace so new things are always appearing/evolving In a similar manner the setting of Warmachine/Iron Kingdoms has an evolving setting, which has led to new models replacing old designs, out of a need to sell new stuff but also push the plot on, and the world, being just a singular world like WHF, is not fully detailed. We know really only what amounts to a third of what is North America in terms of land mass populated by kingdoms and peoples. That leaves scope to fill in gaps, create new things, and open up new gaps.
Age of Sigmar models are better than 40k imo. They show a lot more creativity in the recent releases as compared to the recent 40k releases that are typically looking very "copy and paste with a few changes" which sucks. The new blood angels models losing a lot of personality in them is the best example to me. AoS is a much more interesting variety for painting and that's all I'm interested in now so AoS is going to be replacing 40k for models to paint for me
Building and priming is deffo a headache that gets in the way of hitting the pile of potential. Bulk priming whilst the weather is still good is something im experimenting with
I think AoS is the way it is cause of its community. The concreating was attempted twice by GW most significantly during the firestorm campaign era tying rules to colour schemes and specific models. Community rejectsd it pretty hard and has remained pretty encouraging of custom kit bashong and proxying. So while the story continuong to advance killing off factions and characters to set up new releases no one really pushes back on using 1 mini to represent a warscroll with a older kit, so things like armour changes due to Belakors storm or Military Reforms in the Cities might frustrate but if there is a warscroll it could represent people can use what they want.We got bout 4 clubs around me with 20-50 players for AoS and everyone bounces around trying new models and factions as a result being creative with things from Khornecast, Pirate trolls and Bretonnian Cities. So models keep selling and people keep hyping projects that catch their eye when soemthing is released. So if the 40k market will just buy space marines no matter what and there is push back for being creative (like when Tau came out or Primaris) why would GW put creative resources towards 40k? 40k xan have creative design just look at Necrumunda
Maybe a hot take but I think anyone who is painting commissions professionally should buy and learn to use an airbrush if they value their time/income. I understand space restrictions but the time you save with the airbrush can be immense. I can’t imagine tackling a larger model commission with brushes alone.
I appreciate that this things so obscenely large that people can be like “I like this version because it has the coolest models to me” and I can be “I’ve never bought a model, maybe never will, I just like neat lore and a couple video games” and it all flies and everyone’s having a good time with it
With the exception of the new BA box and the Skaven, I only buy one box for every 3-4 I paint for the last several years and now my pile O' potential all fits in 1 cupboard :)
My number one way to manage my collection, is to sell the mini's I don't want/like/value anymore. I collect mini's and am happy to own some I will never paint, but only if I love the look of them. What helped me recently is too build (not glue) them so I can have them in hand. Easier with push to fit than multipart, but still possible. There are no amount of pictures or even videos that can help me evaluate the sculpt as well as seeing it in real life.
Primaris are better... other than the relative lack of helmet variation. We don't have enough beaky boys, ultramarines with roman plumes and similar nonsense. I am also not sold on the jet packpack, for what it does to the silouette: In many angles, it makes them look fat. But redesigning just that bit across chapters until they find a winner shouldn't be that hard.
I just subscribed. This came into my feed just as I'd starting painting Angron. I tend to paint bigger models lately, but nothing Daemon Primarch sized. So I totally understand how daunting it is. But.. just paint it. I really liked the cloth texture on that Vizzik Skour.
I don’t think AoS has better sculpts due to the age of the system I think it’s the foundations of how they’ve built it. They’ve moved into the realm of high fantasy and removed old limitations that would have existed if they’d stayed under the umbrella of The Old World. New lore, minis and progression in the storyline each year avoids the stagnation that it feels like 40k are stuck in. I think it will remain this way until 40k are ready to do something similar and theoretically say okay we’re moving into 41k and going to start branching out for all factions and new ones.
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The Primaris armor being less ornamental must be a consequence of they are _new_ armor as compared to the old sets of armor that often is thousands of years old that was used by the First Born. Naturally, there's less general ornamentation, less purity seals, fewer candles, wolf's teeth and blood drops, less chapter specifik stuff, fewer artificer helmets, less heretical ritualistic symbolism, fewer winged backpacks, etc.
GW is also willingly putting themselves into a box. They are making marines more and more generic. They need more unique models for each chapter like the Thunderwolf Cav for Space wolves. Each chapter should be more than a Paint scheme.
We have this in chaos: Nobody would confuse a model for a Plague Marine, a Rubric, an Eighbound or a Night Lord, even in plain grey. In AOS though the problem is minimal in-faction variation. I cannot tell the different units of fyreslayers at a distance, because they all look like the same model. Ossiarchs? More homogeneous than ultramarines. The real problem with 40k is not variation(where sure, you have to leave loyalist marines behind at times) , but that some units really look pretty bad. Some pretty iffy things are getting through the pipeline, for hard to understand reasons. One can complain that Lemartes is different than before, but it's a beautiful miniature. But Coteaz is hard to defend, ignoring the old mini. The situation with the Custodes sheld captain. You don't need a great art director to realize those are substandard.
Except... That is exactly what they were originally. Simple is better for newer players, and there is nothing stopping people embellishing them. I think people forget that their target audience is the newer younger player. Not the experienced player or modeller.
Have to call you out for being slightly disingenuous with your complaints about AoS not having variety. You literally picked the two worst armies in the game as your flagship examples. Even Fyreslayers players will admit that their army sucks because it only consists of two types of unit: Half-naked Manbaby with Axe, or Half-naked Manbaby with Axe riding a Magma Lizard. Ossiarch Bonereapers are designed to be “Undead Rome” so yes there’s a level of uniformity within the army. Not-so-coincidentally, both of these armies have received only one major release wave, compared to almost all of the other armies in the game, which have received more than one release wave and are incredibly visually diverse even within the faction. The Sylvaneth range includes angry tree people , giant angry tree people , dragonfly-winged dryad archers, insect-riding tree spirit cavalry, and centerpiece models like Alarielle the Everqueen, an elf-goddess who rides a giant rhino beetle and who cut her hand off to turn into her literal right-hand woman. Daughters of Khaine are all murderhobo girls, but they range from bog-standard Witch Elves to full-blown harpies and snake-women. Soulblight Gravelords consist of stereotypical Count Dracula vampires, vampires who have turned half-beast from their curse overwhelming them, and vampires who are actually werewolves. That’s not to mention all the spooky, bump-in-the-night things that fill out the army like zombies, skeletons, wolves, bats, and so on. The Kharadron Overlords are steampunk Sky Dwarves who are literally the only army in the game to use vehicles, their airships. I’ll not go into all the various armies, as that will make an already long comment far too long. I’ll summarize with this. There is a vast diversity of models within Age Of Sigmar armies, and I think you do some of GW’s best sculptors a disservice by ignoring that and choosing to use the two armies widely acknowledged as the worst visually as your only examples. Lack of variety within an army is hardly an issue in AoS.
hobby hack........ For snow flock, use wood glue that's resin based not water based PVA, mix with the snow flock to make a paste, There's less shrinkage to the wood glue keeping the snow more fuller
My pile of potential is sadly missing Kill Team Nightmare because I missed out on the preorder. I don't think the argument that the models are still on the shop shelves is always true. Which is frustrating, because the point should be valid.
my main problem is i paint at such a fast pace i don't have a pile of shame, as such!. but gw realise models at such a rate i butterfly to new project, and i never finish an old army project
Honestly, I think the blood angels were just trying to make them look like something they aren't. Yes, they have angels in their name, but that massive power armor doesn't really go well with Lutheran depictions, and it looks awkward when you try. Be like performing Shakespeare in full plate. You'd probably drown out any story in just how weird it looks. Also I think 40k could take from. AoS in their use of effects. It they really wanted to drop the wings they would have made the jetwash look like wings. Something like victory gundam. The wing flaps really do just kindof seem like almost a joke reference.
My issue with 40k is the fact that that they view it as a space marine game. with some other factions, and that has made it boring. They argue they sell the best, but they sell the best because they have invested so heavily in enhancing the space marine range. The other factions are left to rot.
Hi guys, you mentioned in a previous video about glaze mediums, i recently picked up 2 different brands both ak and pro acryl but similarly to the brush care demo it would be great to hear how exaclty you use them, 50/50 with paint or a drop per x,y,z. demo of that would be great because people saying 1 to 1 or 4 to 1 on a youtube tutorial can be kinda hard to replicate without a visual. Thanks and keep up the great work!
It totally depends on what you’re trying to do and what paint you’re using. Much like the question “how much water do I add to thin my paint?” it totally depends… the glaze medium is just there to thicken the glaze so it doesn’t have the horrible surface tension of water. I’d advise you dilute the glaze to roughly 80% of how thin you’d like it to be and then gradually add the glaze medium to do the rest. Sometimes you’re going to want a thicker glaze sometimes an almost transparent. I advise you experiment yourself as much as possible or do tests to understand how it works Hope that helps!
To George's point at the end of the pod.. That the models will still be there if you don't buy them.. I actually wish that were true.. But in fact, it's not. GW has had lots of production issues, and many many options sit out of stock for years. Kill Team kits vanish and never return. Maybe so main line Space Marines will always b there, but lots of GW product gets a single run and then who knows. I wish what he said was actually true in practice.. Then there would be far less fomo buying.. But the scarcity seems to be part of the plan that's working for GW
just gonna put this out here, they had the exact same thing with fantasy as you have in 40k its just that they hard reset the game to make AOS and then had old world for fantasy fans.
GW is run by corporate greed, if your 40K sales are close to peak are you going to pump more design assets into that side of your company or into the team that is underperforming sales-wise?
So, I don't think the artwork and the lore is as restrictive as made out. In GW the artwork and lore will follow a model, not just the other way around. GW have shown that they can knock it out of the park for GW models: the Lion, Abbadon & the avatar being chief amoungst them. I do feel that the AoS team take more reactive risks, mixing up poses, levels of detail etc. They also do a better example of being able to add to the model rather than take away (in the case of most 40K stuff now).
also new sculpts have sharper detail and better proportions, they are absolutely the blandest though, no flavor, weak helmet design, (the new blood angels just shows how litele effort they are going to put in before their 6 month holiday)
I think it depends on what you mean by "better." Older miniatures from 40k and Fantasy don't have so much detail to work on. If you have a busy life and can only carve out a few hours a week to paint then having an army where every foot solider has loads of intricate detail to paint isn't better.
AoS needs the extra help. 40K will still sell gangbusters numbers. It’s very evident the reduction in effort of the kits when you look at the new Death Co and Sang Guard packages. A lack of bits options, reduced detail, very similar posing to other kits, lack of build options (adds to the poses options) and just generally the far fewer flourishes that you see on Sigmar kits. It’s really stark when you compare the Sanguinor to the latest StormCast Prosecutor character model.
Love the ps5 controller i could probably buy a second hand ps5 instead of buying the special edition controller 😂 i have a ps 2,3 and 4 but not the ps5 yet
Age of sigmar is far better now than 40k for me. 40k was brilliant in 8th edition and just went downhill from there. 10th edition the core games fine but all the book are awful. Armies have lost all thier customisation and flavour.
AoS 4.0 isn't going to be this hyped past 2024. I think 40k players are trying it because nothing new is releasing for 40k until January. I think most people prefer the aesthetics of AoS because of the fantasy aesthetic. I myself prefer fantasy over scifi from an aesthetic perspective. Nothing cooler than dragons, gryphons, and centaurs and other than the organic races the non-organic armies are just never going to look as cool. The best looking SM is The Lion but he's nowhere near as badass looking as even some of the lesser heroes in AoS. People think the AoS designers are better. I just think they have the better canvas
AoS isn’t “new” it’s been around since 2015 and has evolved from a game with zero direction to now a very good system and actually improved the lore. There is so much more coming down the pipeline for AoS, maybe stop the Old Guard mentality and move on.
@@patton631 lol. 4.0 is new. And like the 3 editions prior the major content creators will be hyped over it for about 3 or 4 months and then slowly they will go back to focusing on 40k. It's happened this way since 1st edition. It'll happen this way again. You'll see the occasional AoS stream but it's not going to be anywhere near as often as it is now. You'll see.
I sold all my 40k armies and moved over to AoS at the start of 4th. Having an absolute blast. The game is better, the models are cooler, and the fanbase is infinitely more chill than 40k
As an AoS player, hearing "a Boltgun is what a spacemarine has, so it has to be the weapon that a Marine has" without any irony is hilarious to me - i think that is part of main difference between the communities - almost noone cares about WYSIWYG in AoS as long as I can tell what they are and a lot of 40K players seem to get their panties twisted over that
From what i've seen, most of the AoS community was very glad about the recent change of weapons in AoS from Swords or Spears to just "Celestial Weapons" or whatever - so much more creative freedom to do conversions or your own models for something instead of the prescribed "this is what they need to have...always"
10th edition 40k has done this as well though with wysiwyg. it was more of a 'we are fed up of the changes and no longer care what it is equipped with'
From what I understand AoS is deliberately designed to be open and evolving so that they can continue to move the lore forward and release new ranges in perpetuity. I think the entire point is that it won't ever be set in stone.
or the original setting was so bad they had to change it
@@toptopplayer-f7n I have no idea, never read it or played, I'm just an old square baser who's listened to ex-GW staff talk about why they killed of WHFB. Essentially GW need to squat old ranges and release new ones in order to not go under so having a lore that can be constantly moved forward allows that to happen.
Indeed, it was designed to be an open canvas to enable new products and developments that generate sales and broaden the potential uptake of the game. The Old World/FB was perceived as stagnant. Jordan Sorcery has a very informative interview with Alan Merrit on the subject on his channel. (That was the company point of view; I much prefer the Old World/FB, but I am not a PLC.)
@@TeWakaOAoraki the lore was one of the main strengths, that was never the problem
@@toptopplayer-f7n oh you mean the old world? No the problem there was that they had no way to incentivise people to buy new minis for armies they already owned, they need to squat mini ranges and replace them to sustain their business model. The old world setting did not allow for that to be done, remaking High Elf spearmen or whatever for the 3rd time wasn’t going to get the kind of sales they wanted because high elf players already had the spearmen they needed. It just had nowhere to go. With AoS they can do whatever they want to keep selling new minis.
I prefer the term Pile of Savings. GW prices keep going up so something you bought 2 - 3 years ago has now saved you $5 - $15 vs buying it today.
This is glorious. Haha 😂
Yes, AoS have objectively better models. Tbh, the game system slaps now too.
I would love them to bring in a hidden splinter faction for humanity that have existed since the Dark Age of Technology. Neither Imperial or heretic aligned, but technologically miles ahead. Like the Interex
AOS is so much more fun. Battles are a bit faster more balanced and easier to understand.
As far as I'm concerned AoS is much better than 40k, both models and rules. I really like the new Spearhead game but this is because I much prefer skirmish level games. I also prefer Fantasy games generally. Almost all Sci-Fi games run into the shooting range problem where the range of guns just doesn't make sense. Fantasy games still run into this problem but for some reason I can accept it more in a fantasy game than I can in a Sci-Fi game.
How do I know that the AoS model range is better than the 40k range? Most of my Blood Angels army is converted from AoS models
40k models, even the new stuff, feel like an older design aesthetic. The AOS models are so much fresher and creative.
This podcast warmed my soul. So supportive of Paul and his journey, without be patronising. Objective and subjective feedback and interest in the individual's progress. Really great hobby content - other creators should take not.
And - that is one amazing massive rat. If I have painted that I would be absolutely stoked. Well done, Paul.
Yeah that texture on Vizzik looks absolutely great.
The shaven paint job is gorgeous. The better you are the more critical you are. Its fabulous
*skaven
I think the thing people are realizing is that 40k creates the lore first and then creates miniatures around it while AOS creates minis first and then creates lore around it. Thats why 40k has better lore and AOS has better minis. Just a theory though.
Next week, I just want a full 10 hour Let's Play with James playing Space Marine 2 all the way through. Or at least, 10 hours of James wiping repeatedly on the first level of SM2.
Think it’s worth considering a pretty huge chunk of the aos base went through whfb being destroyed, and those who stuck around or came back later following that ended up being cool with it - we lost a lot of hateful chuds or people less tolerant of change in that process who didn’t move on, which i think tees up gw to be braver and not get the sort of backlash they do on the 40k side
Oh no the centerpiece models takes long to paint. The horror 😂
The issue GW have is two fold with settings.
In WHF the world was "The World" and barring regions of Ind and far east, they had painted in a lot of the setting, and it left little room for new factions, and they leaned away from those regions because of the fear of creating appropriating charactures. So the setting felt like it was set in stone, so new units etc would be met with "Well where have those come from".
We see similar in 40k with the new tank for Imperial Guard. Now this becomes two fold because the other issue GW has is that they can't just put any old concept art because of the Chapter House case - they only put out new art if there is to be a model of it, which brings us to the point of "New tank huh, how come we never heard of it before?" This also then is similar to the issues we have with Primaris. And the cynical collectors see this as a cash grab.
AoS has none of this because a) the setting the magical post-apocalyptic so there are thousands of lost empires for things to be recovered from. b) the plot moves forward at pace so new things are always appearing/evolving
In a similar manner the setting of Warmachine/Iron Kingdoms has an evolving setting, which has led to new models replacing old designs, out of a need to sell new stuff but also push the plot on, and the world, being just a singular world like WHF, is not fully detailed. We know really only what amounts to a third of what is North America in terms of land mass populated by kingdoms and peoples. That leaves scope to fill in gaps, create new things, and open up new gaps.
I would be a huge advocate for doing some stormcast for most painters.. they also have an insane amount of detail.. fabric.. etc
Age of Sigmar models are better than 40k imo. They show a lot more creativity in the recent releases as compared to the recent 40k releases that are typically looking very "copy and paste with a few changes" which sucks. The new blood angels models losing a lot of personality in them is the best example to me. AoS is a much more interesting variety for painting and that's all I'm interested in now so AoS is going to be replacing 40k for models to paint for me
Building and priming is deffo a headache that gets in the way of hitting the pile of potential. Bulk priming whilst the weather is still good is something im experimenting with
I think AoS is the way it is cause of its community. The concreating was attempted twice by GW most significantly during the firestorm campaign era tying rules to colour schemes and specific models. Community rejectsd it pretty hard and has remained pretty encouraging of custom kit bashong and proxying. So while the story continuong to advance killing off factions and characters to set up new releases no one really pushes back on using 1 mini to represent a warscroll with a older kit, so things like armour changes due to Belakors storm or Military Reforms in the Cities might frustrate but if there is a warscroll it could represent people can use what they want.We got bout 4 clubs around me with 20-50 players for AoS and everyone bounces around trying new models and factions as a result being creative with things from Khornecast, Pirate trolls and Bretonnian Cities. So models keep selling and people keep hyping projects that catch their eye when soemthing is released. So if the 40k market will just buy space marines no matter what and there is push back for being creative (like when Tau came out or Primaris) why would GW put creative resources towards 40k?
40k xan have creative design just look at Necrumunda
Maybe a hot take but I think anyone who is painting commissions professionally should buy and learn to use an airbrush if they value their time/income.
I understand space restrictions but the time you save with the airbrush can be immense. I can’t imagine tackling a larger model commission with brushes alone.
I appreciate that this things so obscenely large that people can be like “I like this version because it has the coolest models to me” and I can be “I’ve never bought a model, maybe never will, I just like neat lore and a couple video games” and it all flies and everyone’s having a good time with it
With the exception of the new BA box and the Skaven, I only buy one box for every 3-4 I paint for the last several years and now my pile O' potential all fits in 1 cupboard :)
My number one way to manage my collection, is to sell the mini's I don't want/like/value anymore. I collect mini's and am happy to own some I will never paint, but only if I love the look of them. What helped me recently is too build (not glue) them so I can have them in hand. Easier with push to fit than multipart, but still possible. There are no amount of pictures or even videos that can help me evaluate the sculpt as well as seeing it in real life.
Primaris are better... other than the relative lack of helmet variation. We don't have enough beaky boys, ultramarines with roman plumes and similar nonsense.
I am also not sold on the jet packpack, for what it does to the silouette: In many angles, it makes them look fat. But redesigning just that bit across chapters until they find a winner shouldn't be that hard.
I just subscribed. This came into my feed just as I'd starting painting Angron. I tend to paint bigger models lately, but nothing Daemon Primarch sized. So I totally understand how daunting it is. But.. just paint it. I really liked the cloth texture on that Vizzik Skour.
I don’t think AoS has better sculpts due to the age of the system I think it’s the foundations of how they’ve built it. They’ve moved into the realm of high fantasy and removed old limitations that would have existed if they’d stayed under the umbrella of The Old World. New lore, minis and progression in the storyline each year avoids the stagnation that it feels like 40k are stuck in. I think it will remain this way until 40k are ready to do something similar and theoretically say okay we’re moving into 41k and going to start branching out for all factions and new ones.
Paul, you did a fantastic job on that Skaven lord, it’s brilliant. Well done mate (from one ex squaddie to another).
I'm an Eldar collector. All my models are 20+ years old.
AoS has better models than 40k.
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Saying just don't build up a pile of potential, as a solution to the pile of potential with a straight face is such a power move 😂
The Primaris armor being less ornamental must be a consequence of they are _new_ armor as compared to the old sets of armor that often is thousands of years old that was used by the First Born. Naturally, there's less general ornamentation, less purity seals, fewer candles, wolf's teeth and blood drops, less chapter specifik stuff, fewer artificer helmets, less heretical ritualistic symbolism, fewer winged backpacks, etc.
Short answer yes. Longer answer also yes
GW is also willingly putting themselves into a box. They are making marines more and more generic. They need more unique models for each chapter like the Thunderwolf Cav for Space wolves. Each chapter should be more than a Paint scheme.
We have this in chaos: Nobody would confuse a model for a Plague Marine, a Rubric, an Eighbound or a Night Lord, even in plain grey.
In AOS though the problem is minimal in-faction variation. I cannot tell the different units of fyreslayers at a distance, because they all look like the same model. Ossiarchs? More homogeneous than ultramarines.
The real problem with 40k is not variation(where sure, you have to leave loyalist marines behind at times) , but that some units really look pretty bad. Some pretty iffy things are getting through the pipeline, for hard to understand reasons. One can complain that Lemartes is different than before, but it's a beautiful miniature. But Coteaz is hard to defend, ignoring the old mini. The situation with the Custodes sheld captain. You don't need a great art director to realize those are substandard.
Except... That is exactly what they were originally. Simple is better for newer players, and there is nothing stopping people embellishing them. I think people forget that their target audience is the newer younger player. Not the experienced player or modeller.
Have to call you out for being slightly disingenuous with your complaints about AoS not having variety. You literally picked the two worst armies in the game as your flagship examples. Even Fyreslayers players will admit that their army sucks because it only consists of two types of unit: Half-naked Manbaby with Axe, or Half-naked Manbaby with Axe riding a Magma Lizard. Ossiarch Bonereapers are designed to be “Undead Rome” so yes there’s a level of uniformity within the army.
Not-so-coincidentally, both of these armies have received only one major release wave, compared to almost all of the other armies in the game, which have received more than one release wave and are incredibly visually diverse even within the faction.
The Sylvaneth range includes angry tree people , giant angry tree people , dragonfly-winged dryad archers, insect-riding tree spirit cavalry, and centerpiece models like Alarielle the Everqueen, an elf-goddess who rides a giant rhino beetle and who cut her hand off to turn into her literal right-hand woman.
Daughters of Khaine are all murderhobo girls, but they range from bog-standard Witch Elves to full-blown harpies and snake-women.
Soulblight Gravelords consist of stereotypical Count Dracula vampires, vampires who have turned half-beast from their curse overwhelming them, and vampires who are actually werewolves. That’s not to mention all the spooky, bump-in-the-night things that fill out the army like zombies, skeletons, wolves, bats, and so on.
The Kharadron Overlords are steampunk Sky Dwarves who are literally the only army in the game to use vehicles, their airships.
I’ll not go into all the various armies, as that will make an already long comment far too long. I’ll summarize with this. There is a vast diversity of models within Age Of Sigmar armies, and I think you do some of GW’s best sculptors a disservice by ignoring that and choosing to use the two armies widely acknowledged as the worst visually as your only examples.
Lack of variety within an army is hardly an issue in AoS.
hobby hack........ For snow flock, use wood glue that's resin based not water based PVA, mix with the snow flock to make a paste, There's less shrinkage to the wood glue keeping the snow more fuller
My pile of potential is sadly missing Kill Team Nightmare because I missed out on the preorder. I don't think the argument that the models are still on the shop shelves is always true. Which is frustrating, because the point should be valid.
my main problem is i paint at such a fast pace i don't have a pile of shame, as such!. but gw realise models at such a rate i butterfly to new project, and i never finish an old army project
Picked up the darkstar intro set on James’ recommendation. They’re great!
Horus heresy proves that marines dont have to be boring. Look at iron hand immortals vs the shit primaris crap
Honestly, I think the blood angels were just trying to make them look like something they aren't. Yes, they have angels in their name, but that massive power armor doesn't really go well with Lutheran depictions, and it looks awkward when you try. Be like performing Shakespeare in full plate. You'd probably drown out any story in just how weird it looks. Also I think 40k could take from. AoS in their use of effects. It they really wanted to drop the wings they would have made the jetwash look like wings. Something like victory gundam. The wing flaps really do just kindof seem like almost a joke reference.
I don't get the Blood Angels backlash at all. I think the new models are gorgeous.
Guys,
As men of Essex I'm disappointed in the jam debate. Clearly, our own Tiptree jams are superior to bon mamon
Ahhh, no subscriber comments, I was hoping James might of had something to say about my old books... 😢
But I still love ya work gents.
Yes AOS is better by far
The models for AOS are way better
My issue with 40k is the fact that that they view it as a space marine game. with some other factions, and that has made it boring. They argue they sell the best, but they sell the best because they have invested so heavily in enhancing the space marine range. The other factions are left to rot.
"It would be cool to bring in a completely curveball faction"
Rangdan when?
Space Marines COULD take lasguns in Rogue Trader...
Hi guys, you mentioned in a previous video about glaze mediums, i recently picked up 2 different brands both ak and pro acryl but similarly to the brush care demo it would be great to hear how exaclty you use them, 50/50 with paint or a drop per x,y,z. demo of that would be great because people saying 1 to 1 or 4 to 1 on a youtube tutorial can be kinda hard to replicate without a visual. Thanks and keep up the great work!
It totally depends on what you’re trying to do and what paint you’re using. Much like the question “how much water do I add to thin my paint?” it totally depends… the glaze medium is just there to thicken the glaze so it doesn’t have the horrible surface tension of water. I’d advise you dilute the glaze to roughly 80% of how thin you’d like it to be and then gradually add the glaze medium to do the rest.
Sometimes you’re going to want a thicker glaze sometimes an almost transparent. I advise you experiment yourself as much as possible or do tests to understand how it works
Hope that helps!
To George's point at the end of the pod.. That the models will still be there if you don't buy them.. I actually wish that were true.. But in fact, it's not. GW has had lots of production issues, and many many options sit out of stock for years. Kill Team kits vanish and never return. Maybe so main line Space Marines will always b there, but lots of GW product gets a single run and then who knows. I wish what he said was actually true in practice.. Then there would be far less fomo buying.. But the scarcity seems to be part of the plan that's working for GW
hi guys im going to start a tank soon and there is a couple of places i need to tape/mask can you recommend a good tape ? thanks
just gonna put this out here, they had the exact same thing with fantasy as you have in 40k its just that they hard reset the game to make AOS and then had old world for fantasy fans.
Pile of Potential, I seem to buy 2 or 3 new things for each project I complete 🤦
yes
I’ve loved both ranges of models and games for a long time. Now, they have priced me and a couple local friends out of buying any of the new models.
GW is run by corporate greed, if your 40K sales are close to peak are you going to pump more design assets into that side of your company or into the team that is underperforming sales-wise?
How’s this even a question?
What paint stripper do you guys use for models?
So, I don't think the artwork and the lore is as restrictive as made out. In GW the artwork and lore will follow a model, not just the other way around. GW have shown that they can knock it out of the park for GW models: the Lion, Abbadon & the avatar being chief amoungst them.
I do feel that the AoS team take more reactive risks, mixing up poses, levels of detail etc. They also do a better example of being able to add to the model rather than take away (in the case of most 40K stuff now).
also new sculpts have sharper detail and better proportions, they are absolutely the blandest though, no flavor, weak helmet design, (the new blood angels just shows how litele effort they are going to put in before their 6 month holiday)
I think it depends on what you mean by "better." Older miniatures from 40k and Fantasy don't have so much detail to work on. If you have a busy life and can only carve out a few hours a week to paint then having an army where every foot solider has loads of intricate detail to paint isn't better.
Yes. Yes it is
What are the most important things to consider/focus on when it comes to winning best painted at gaming events?
AOS is actually better than 40k
I agree with that.
if you were buying a console just for space marine 2 you bought the one that sadly performs the worse of the two
AoS needs the extra help. 40K will still sell gangbusters numbers.
It’s very evident the reduction in effort of the kits when you look at the new Death Co and Sang Guard packages. A lack of bits options, reduced detail, very similar posing to other kits, lack of build options (adds to the poses options) and just generally the far fewer flourishes that you see on Sigmar kits.
It’s really stark when you compare the Sanguinor to the latest StormCast Prosecutor character model.
The gameplay of AoS is better than 40K and the way everything works.
Love the ps5 controller i could probably buy a second hand ps5 instead of buying the special edition controller 😂 i have a ps 2,3 and 4 but not the ps5 yet
Age of sigmar is far better now than 40k for me. 40k was brilliant in 8th edition and just went downhill from there. 10th edition the core games fine but all the book are awful. Armies have lost all thier customisation and flavour.
AoS 4.0 isn't going to be this hyped past 2024. I think 40k players are trying it because nothing new is releasing for 40k until January.
I think most people prefer the aesthetics of AoS because of the fantasy aesthetic. I myself prefer fantasy over scifi from an aesthetic perspective. Nothing cooler than dragons, gryphons, and centaurs and other than the organic races the non-organic armies are just never going to look as cool. The best looking SM is The Lion but he's nowhere near as badass looking as even some of the lesser heroes in AoS.
People think the AoS designers are better. I just think they have the better canvas
AoS is absolutely going to be hyped beyond 2024. How’d you draw that conclusion?
@@Malllttt Wait and see. It's shiny and new.
AoS isn’t “new” it’s been around since 2015 and has evolved from a game with zero direction to now a very good system and actually improved the lore. There is so much more coming down the pipeline for AoS, maybe stop the Old Guard mentality and move on.
@@patton631 lol. 4.0 is new. And like the 3 editions prior the major content creators will be hyped over it for about 3 or 4 months and then slowly they will go back to focusing on 40k. It's happened this way since 1st edition. It'll happen this way again.
You'll see the occasional AoS stream but it's not going to be anywhere near as often as it is now.
You'll see.
Aesthetically awful, setting pap. Double turn no thanks. Apart from that it has potential.