TIMELORD: Cultural Index
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- Alright, so after quantifying the results by examining the time-streams for and variation on the immutable outcome its seem all quantum prophecies point to the same conclusion.
This Cultural Index will/would/shall/was/always is and ever-was on the Timelords!
Time-Travel... Makes a hell of a mess. A couple of details here an there may be out of place, but with such a long history (both as the show and in lore) the Gallifreyan Elite have numerous contradictions and non-cannon sources. But they all allow us to build an image of Timelord society.
This is the Cultural Index a series aimed at exploring various Science-Fiction species.
For outsiders to a series to get to know the basics and maybe even hardened Sci-fi nuts might discover something new.
Thanks for watching!
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That description of the Time Lords having to resurrect their ancient leader in order to effectively fight a war in which they had stalemated is eerily reminiscent of of the daleks resurrecting Davros in order to fight off the Movellans
Thats probably the idea
It wasn't a genetic flaw limiting regeneration. Rassilon set it up that way to prevent timelords from becoming immortal beings.
why
@@Monochromicornicopia I guess so it would be harder for people to overthrow him
Not according to zagreus. It was to stop molecular break down
@@zakjaggs9761 Except since it is possible for them to just refill the capability of a timelord to regenerate I'm pretty sure that was a lie.
@@Reddotzebra or in the 10 million years time lords produced new scientific techniques
It wasn't a lie but rassilon isnt always 100 scientifically correct, that's my view also I'll take big finish over the rubbish new who any day
the arrogance and stupidly deep politics was somewhat warranted. can you imagine having to oversee all time? even the most minor word at one point in time or another could send galaxies to war or save so many they literally cant be counted. their existence would have been horrible when you think about the unfathomable responsibility they had, the deep regimentation of their society and government really stikes me as a desperate move to not get it wrong.
Yep, imagine what a timelord spanking must of been like. Or timelord prison.
It's true. There once was a guy that said something and a time vortex opened up and sent those words across a computer screen that started a vast war between two massive battle fleets. When they realized that neither side had said it, they put aside their differences, and went to punish the one that said it. When they arrived they discovered that they had made a miscalculation in sizes, and were promptly swallowed by a small dog.
From the Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy.
yiggdrasill I still don’t get why they don’t just make it impossible for themselves to travel to the past
It's relative though. They're so genius that they wouldn't preceive it as so difficult.
And then the new season just threw all this lore out the window
I know, right? Good going, Chibnall 🙄
Yeah but this is all wrong, it was all started by a little girl coming through a portal that they stole regeneration from.
Isn't the newest Doctor Who great?
Gallifreyans discovered regeneration by kidnapping, torturing, and experimenting on a child from another dimension. They then decided to cover it up and claim they found it on there own. There, fixed your comment.
really? i always thought it was some time manupulation, like putting 12 lives in one timestream or something like hacking space-time or like that
thats the thing with doctor who. with time travel everything can be changed. aint it grand
@@CyberController- You didn’t fix anything. You just were more specific. It’s trash regardless.
@@Mrbluefire95 Really? Because pretending to be wise and badass, while secretly being horrible and tyrannical is the most Gallifreyan thing I can think of.
I thought rassilon said that they have a "billion years of timelord history riding on their backs "?
the part about their DNA changing maybe faulty. In the episode arc of infinity it was mentioned that their biodata is kept on file so this will entail that their DNA remains uniform at least on some level.
lastly never like concept of the looms, just makes them sink to the level of sontarons. even the doctor himself referred to his family on 3 seperate occasions in three different episodes . timelords society seems to be modeled after Spartans, where children were property of the state so they were put under their aegis , but family units were still maintained
SpockBorg5 DNA changes, but remains somewhat similar to its original state.
Many other civilisations thought of the Timelords as 'stagnant' in general. However, visionaries like the Doctor and other Timelord 'renegades' brought a little life to the cobwebs of Timelord Society. Even their leniency towards the 'Sisterhood of Karn' (Pythia) showed how backwards looking they were.
@MinecraftPro15 Yeah they where so stagnant that they literally while fighting the Daleks where turning the very timelines into mush, the war is literally destroy the Universe near the end. If anything the other races should just be thankful the Time lords where stagnant imagine if they dedicated there efforts to war instead, no one could stop them or ever have a chance to.
The outro imagery was a perfect climax, saving the best shots for last, I was particularly touched by the final appearance of the control room.
Speaking of Regenerations....
Even from what little lore I myself recall, Rassilon was the first Gallefreyan Time-Lord (or at least the first to claim the title) & 'true' immortal; he bargained with Death to allow his people (the Time-Lords) only 12 regenerations, as nothing escapes Death, not even Time. Rassilon agreed & entombed himself (see The Five Doctors), setting the trap those who came seeking immortality.
However, Time-Lord technology could provide additional regenerations, even a full cycle of 12, but only under specific circumstances (of which were never revealed). The Doctor received this new cycle near the end of The Time of The Doctor.
The Master may have likewise received a new regeneration cycle, but it's unrevealed how many are left after his rebirth from The War Master/Professor Yana to Harold Saxon & then to his/her 'Missy' incarnation.
Timelords: The oldest and most mightiest race in all time
Nibblerians: Hold My Beer! We are older then the universe itself
I'm pretty sure the timelords are older than ten million years old. Considering Matt smiths doctor mentions they have existed since the dawn of time (without time travel as they were one of the first sentients in the DR who universe). Maybe you meant their current culture.
Trollzyn/Trazyn I assume that with '10 million years of history', they are referring to timelord recorded history
No, they as time lords only have had ten million. He got his in fo from "Trial of a Time Lord", colin baker's Doctor literally says "ten million years of absolute power"
Rassilon said, "A billion years of Time Lord history riding on our backs".
So, Collin Baker says, "ten million years of absolute power" and Rassiolon says, "a billion years of Time Lord history". Perhaps Rassilon was referring to how old the Gallifreyan race was back in his day (forgetting that he has been "asleep"/dead for a long time), and perhaps the Doctor was referring to the time since Rassilon (i.e. the time that they have been TIME LORDS for).
Alternatively, I believe that Gallifrey exists in "inner-time" and the rest of the universe are in "outer-time", much in the same way that we talk about outer space and inner space. This could mean that whilst the Time Lords are only ten million or a billion years old (in terms of inner time) they have been interacting with more than a billion years worth of outer time.
Finally, the Time Lords were active in the "Dark Times", having destroyed the Racnoss approximately 4.6 billion years ago, and the Vampires at a similar time. Whilst this implies that they are far older than a billion years, the above paragraph demonstrates how this might not be the case.
Maybe the species has existed for a Billion years, but the time tech that gave them absolute power has "only" been around for 10 million years...... That or lazy arbitrary writing... It was mostly filler for the real story anyway.
There is also a process called 'looming' where to be Time Lords go into pods where they 'loom'. Basically going from a normal gallifreyan to getting regenerative powers and becoming a Time Lord.
This is how I will continue to see the Time Lords as I want to forget that timeless child bollox. I'd be ecstatic if the first scene in the next series is the master saying it was just a joke.
Same
It has just occured to me the similarities between Timelords and the Trill in Star Trek - the memories of the past lives of each host/incarnation. Excellent information as usual!
I've been watching Doctor Who even before DS9 premiered so I made the connection immediately when I seen the first episode of DS9.
Tok'ra
I found a star trek and Doctor who fan🖖🏼
"What would be the artist?"
The hand renders the signal relayed by the brain, the brain receives its signals from your consciousness interacting with microtubules via q bits. The mind is the artist & the physical is just a means of expression.
Galifreyan society is basically the British monarchy. Got it.
David Wührer #Britishacademia hence the observation , #jordanbpeterson would be the master
René Moncayo why? He is a legend.
I mean.............
@@aabfc1887 Jordan Peterson is not a legend, he is an advisor to the legend
Hopefully with less paedophillia and Nazism.
“Regeneration” is basically “Reincarnation” when you die you are reborn Into new body basically
*13 has entered the room*
*The Rani throws shade on 13*
A very nice job. My only point of contention was when you said they "resurrected" Rassilon. Rassilon was in stasis available to be awoken in case of great need, but if you woke attempted to wake him just to exploit his power (as Barusa discovered at the end of serial "The Five Doctors") you got absorbed into the machine yourself. Rassallon and Omega (and their generation of Time Lords) didn't have a limitation on the number of time they could regenerate - Rassilon introduced a virus that caused the limitation. And (whether the writers meant this or not) Rassilon was in charge when both the Doctor and the Master were granted what amounts to unlimited regenerations.
No, Rassilon actually died; he was not in ‘stasis’ as you put it!
@@danivarius Yeah, he was in stasis. It is why he acted against Borusa,but spared the Doctor in the Five Doctors. If he was dead, everyone in his dead TARDIS would have died when he interacted with them. Everything the OP said is correct.
But if it's true that the Rassilon Generation (Gen-R? 😜) have unlimited regenerations then wouldn't The Doctor already have them? (Considering the "Cartmel Master Plan" and The Other.)
In effect, the light that they sent through the crack at Trenzalore was just a bright torch. Typical bloody Time Lords, make it look and sound impressive when it's actually not.
*Harumpf* Cheating gits! 😁
@@EthanKristopherHartley Well, the Doctor is one of only Four Timelords that survived the Schism Ritual. There is heavy evidence that this ritual gave the four unlimited regenerations, except that Gallifrey limits the cycles to 12, and has to grant them when they run out. Think of Gallifrey as a location that gives them out in batches of 12.
But only for these four, besides Rassilon and Omega.
However, full control of regenerations could only come from Looming.
tbh Time Lords can't be labelled so easily, by their very nature they transcend time so their culture is literally ageless.. especially as Who canon continually shifts (and the writers themselves have long said Who has no true canon, so they pretty much do what they wish (or what BBC demands) ).
I think it was a mistake for Moffat to completely rule out Looms, and as this was stated in Doctor Who Magazine and never addressed on the show, I tend to ignore it. It can be easily reconciled with the new series: maybe the Time Lord elite use the Looms to make new Time Lords, while regular Gallifreyans have children in the normal way. Lungbarrow showed that natural childbirth had come back to Gallifrey, but maybe the High Council continued using the Looms in order to insure "genetic purity" in the Time Lord elite.
blackphoenix77 no in the books it was stated that time lords were sterile for 1000 years and used looms during that time. Lets not forget that Davies told the woman in the later stages of The End of Time that she was playing the Doctor's mother.
In the virgin brand book "cat's cradle : times crucible" the tale told of the first time ship experiment and how their species stopped having children the way we do. The Pythia, the most powerful of oracles cursed all of gallifrey to sterility(if memory serves, haven't read it since the 90's) for the crime of time travel. I think it was a dying curse, and you know how those go lol. After that, no baby would be born naturally on gallifrey, hence the looms. Not sure why they went that way but the Pythia was a nasty piece of work so she probably cursed the use of artificial woumbs too somehow.
Moffat : "No, the loom doesn't exist. Now in a completely original idea, Alice Troughton & I have written an episode called The Doctor's Daughter."
I think the same , like the great house or high families they used loom , and the outsiders ,they reproduce naturally , if you think of a high advance species is absurd that they use natural reproduction having machine that do that uncomfortable job
@@elberno4243 high advance species having birth that is absurd
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I LOVE your Doctor Who videos! I study Who (among other things, but Who is my most favorite) and I'm so excited to have found a UA-cam channel who devotes this level of careful attention and detail to create such in-depth topic. Very well done!
I'm sorry for your loss
This is my favourite video you have done so far (probably because Doctor who is my favourite franchise ever!), keep up the good work.
Thanks, there's a lot of Who to get through.
Same. I'm a big sci-fi fan in general, but Doctor Who is my favorite without a doubt.
Johnny Kilroy same here
This video alone I subbed for!
I know it could never happen, but I would love to see the Eighth Doctor again, one film and one regeneration into the War Doctor isn't enough!
I have a weird thought. In times of really great stress, just as a TImelord is regenerating, they can regenerate into a past self, if the past personality is strong enough, to 'right a wrong' they couldn't do before, sort of like the Crow can bring someone back for revenge, or something really emotional. (I know, it's never gonna happen.)
And now it has happened.
Oh buddy, are you psychic
As with the Vulcans, Logic can often lead to the philosophy of religions. However, philosophy and dogma are two different things. Dogma often, almost invariably, ruins philosophy, if allowed to. Truth and rational thought can counteract this, if corruption, rhetoric and propaganda hasn't already undermined the masses.
Wow! Just... WOW! This is the best explanation ever done. And yes, there’s a lot more to it. But.... WOW!
Reversing polarity of neutron flow makes no sense. Neutrons are neutral therefore they do not have a charge. You can't have a polarity if there is no charge...
Its the polarity of the spin
I think he meant flipping it backwards. Like putting your car in reverse.
Well, the quarks that make up a neutron have charges. Of course, if the charges are flipped that means you have anti-matter neutrons, with explosive results.
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Best Timelord is The General , even tho General always comes at odds with The Doctor , is stands with reason
Turians (Mass Effect)
Certifiably Ingame Yeah!
I would expand the scope of your question. Their art is a frozen moment in time. So who is the artist? The computer program, the programmer who made the program OR the people who made that moment in time happen?
Thank you for this video. Time Lords are one if my favorite alien species.
Sangheili (Elites) HALO.
Have you thought about doing one on the Oan's. ( the blue heads of the Green lantern corps )
That was excellent.
THX.
Luv and Peace.
Having come across this in 2023, did someone hearing the computer generated art portion come up with NFTs?
"What duzzat mean?"-every companion ever
I like how class base timelord society is. Its definitely reflective in some part of the country doctor who comes form
9:27 You're the artist. The computer program is the medium.
thorough, thank you
Another fantastic Dr Who piece
Excellent work! Great series. Please consider doing cultures of Dune universe.
loved it :D yes i wathced the eantire series most of it at elast, still know little of the timelords
very interested loved it and how it goes into detail also loved the ending weeping angel attack :P really enjoyed this will look into others u have done
1:00 does anyone know what is the background music?
*says chancellor*
*thinks*
I AM THE SENATE
Great vid!
I like this guy explaining things
I'm not that big a fan of Dr Who but this was a very enjoyable and thorough video. Great job!
Thank-you!
You will get a lot of heat for this one but blummin brilliant.
most appropriate use of the word NOPE, EVER......
I think the Q Continuum for Star Trek is equally as interesting as Timelords... would make for a great video!
Wouldn't the Q basically be the non corporial version of the timelords? The Q have a similar political system and arrogance. Also the actions of the Q can determine the fate of the universe.
i would place the Q above the timelords, Q seems even more disconected from reality than the timelords.
@@Mrcreeperdead Depends on whether you accept the Prose and if you believe the Q really be omnipotent which is debatable. For example In one story we discover that the Timelords Changed the laws of physics and create Linear time.
Kinda wonder what the Monk and a Q could get up to
Q are more powerful than the Timelords
Can you Please do culture index or personnel file on theses two charaters Captain Dax and History and story about K-9 Astromech droid.
Great job.
Can you do how the citadel was built, and the geology of the planet and architecture of the planet
A look at the Daleks in the next video maybe?
Well done.
Dr Who is WEIRD. :D I'll have to give it a try one of these days. Great work as always.
Thank-you! :)
@Cryer24597 until recently
Sweet 👍
gallifrey falls no more
Thanks for the video. Loved it. Thanks. P.S. Don't blink.
Sweet video.
What's the Who theme tune remix you use in the background? It sounds quite ambient and beautiful.
This is more canon than the Jody Abomination!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Maria Kelly Peter was the last true Doctor. All that Cibs the idiot creates is an abomination. He woked it up! He ruined the first female Doctor by making it so she wasn't the first female doctor. Woke'ness is the death of literature and entertainment.
Bravo.
Thanks for the obvious amount of research you put into this. Superficial or not as a new Whovian I've learned so much. Subsribed! :D
You do excellent videos....And the only flaw Ive seen is the prononciation of some words. Beyond that...Flawless. Well done.
I appreciate the challlenge, as you mentioned....welcome down the Rabbit Hole of Doctor Who fandom.
But if you have control of time, how can you lose anything? Pull an Ekko and reverse your time and hang a left when far enuf back. Timelords have save states! Unless the war against the Daleks is pure entertainment for both Gallefry and the Daleks.... Which would make a lot of sense, but would mean a lot of people were erased from existence for nothing.
Oh I seriusly doubt the Time Lords viewed the Could've Been King, Never-weres..etc etc as entertainment
REMINDS ME of the man of steel version of krypon
I wonder how familiar Jodie Whittaker was with the history and significance of the "Time Lord" vs. "Time Lady" title when she answered a fan's question in an interview, or whether it was something the writers/producers had discussed with her beforehand. (She said her Doctor would be called a Time Lord.) The modern series does seem to use "Timelord" more generically, and implied with Missy that "Time Lady" has fallen out of use, but I wonder if she/they understood how much they were putting in the canon with that statement. I know I don't.
very interesting
Need to discuss. Omega and the fact he is really responsible for the time lords even being a culture
Thanks for the Time Lord history lesson, and I also enjoyed the Rassilon video.
Guess give it a year or so, probably have to re-do this guy.
please do another law based doctor who. I loved it, don't care what it's on
You should do the Daleks from Doctor who and talk about the time war.
Oh come on, he just did the Time Lords. Give him a chance to do some other sci-fi aliens before returning to Doctor Who aliens.
there are plenty of vids out there....many of them of lesser quality, most of them absolutley fiblled with fan theory drivel, but some are not bad.
Kevin Jones and the weeping angels
He does votes on Daleks now, hurry up and vote.
Compared to Earth's timeline, does the Doctor originate from our past or our future? What was contemporary on Earth to his birth?
shawn lopez The past Time Lords
were "first".
Billions of years before earth existed.
He meant from the Doc's point of view, NOT who were first.
I think the Doctors' from the future, not the past.
In the very first story, An Unearthly Child, Susan says something like they come from the 55th century. However, this is long before the concept of a Time Lord, regeneration or Galifrey were introduced.
Jeff Walker it is possible that that was her stating what Earth year they were from, like a translation. Instead of: "we are from the year 10,005,682 of the planet Gallifrey" she said "55th century"
As a fellow Whovian I thought perhaps if it's not too much trouble if you could consider making another Doctor Who culture index video only this time focusing on the Daleks seeing as they are the evil counterparts to the Time lords and because you have done many videos on the Star trek aliens I though maybe you should consider expanding on you Whovian audiences interests but if you find it to be too much for your schedule then no harm done.
that was bloody good thanks mate.
It's rare that I need 2x speed to handle a speaking person. Congrats.
Oh my what a doctor who snob !!
Do the forerunners from Halo there is so much information about them. Like books and books worth.
Until season 12 came along ant took a big shit on it
It Wes good video but can you do do star fire her home plate tearin😊😀
One question why don't you do any videos about the science fiction universe of Star Gate?
1:52 Is that Michael Gough in the background? He was Alfred in the Michael Keaton Batman movies.
It is indeed. he also played the Celestial Toymaker in a William Hartnell episode.
can you do The Darleks as a video ???
I think Timelords were older than 10 million something like on or near a couple of billion year older for they had their hands in all of time now the Daleks were 10 million years old.
Probably the most important creation of the Time Lords is the Great Eye of Harmony, source of all their power and linchpin of the Web of Time itself. Second would be the Web of Time, the meta-structure the Time Lords imposed on the Universe as "official history". Third would be the Matrix and fourth TARDISes.
Could you do anlther Cultural Index on the Fallout series? Super Mutants for instance?
Can you do Cybertronians Autobots/Decepticons
That one needs a little update now xD
Or rather in 2021
the machine is the artist
if you make something like a painting you are the artist not your parents
Would you be the artist and the computer your brush?
If you write a program that paints one picture, you're the creator of that picture. A computer program created by a human is as good as a book, or a poem, or a painting created by a human. It takes knowledge and skill to write, paint, or code.
(It should be noted that talent is practice that a viewer wasn't there to witness)
Indeed, many people even today are “AI artists” who specially train neural nets to produce art with the desired style
Hey can I ask where you got the names of the houses from?. The only one i knew of was Prydonian. And I hate to be picky but its Cas tell an and Rassilon can't have be resurrected as it's clear in the Five Doctors he's not dead. Sorry for being picky. You've done a great job with this video.
Do a cultural index on Krypton, please?
Gallifrey needs a Sorting Hat.
sangelli or halo elites if I spelled that wrong.
Ok space marines (imperials) vs time lords (
gallifreyans). who would win a war? Im saying time lords but comment what u think.
Tzeentch, duh.
When in doubt: Slaneesh