KLINGON: Cultural Index
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
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So we recently passed 10K subs, as a thank you we thought we'd add a bonus index and do our most requested species.
The KLINGONS!
They have to be one of SciFi's most iconic species with their mix of Norse warrior and Samurai code, they defiantly have a place in most Trek fan's heart.
So grab your Bloodwine and bowl of Gagh. Sit back, press play, then grab your Gagh again because it wriggled away from you. Cos it's alive.
Thank you all for watching our stuff, we promise to continue growing and improving the channel.
This is the Cultural Index a series aimed at exploring various Science-Fiction species.
For outsiders to a series to get to know the basics and maybe even hardened Sci-fi nuts might discover something new.
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I liked in one episode of TNG, the Klingon lawyer said the court was his battlefield and that court cases were viewed as battles. I imagine whatever profession a Klingon had they viewed it through the prism of warfare.
I'd like to imagine that there are Klingon Therapists, who (honestly) rightly see mental issues as an impossible but valorous battle that you win by not letting the mental issues conquer you.
@@Humaricslastcall just like Martok said about Garak’s claustrophobia. I like to imagine that’s how Klingon therapists talk all the time
Are there mimes and jugglers in Klingon society, and if so how do they liken aspects of their respective vocations as battle? P'taq! The manner in which you juggle those blunted bat'leths is a sign of cowardice... You bring great dishonor to your House.
I believe that was deep space nine, not TNG. Cisco was representing worf.
Battling with the turds clogging up the toilet.
Nog confronting Martok was a pretty good example of gaining Klingon respect.
It was interesting to see how Martok viewed marriage: A war. He even relished in the idea that Sirella would, in the end, emerge victorious.
I have a personal theory that Klingon ridges is protection for a complex olfactory system leading from their big, beautiful noses. That a Klingon can smell if someone is going to attack, which makes them better warriors and can smell if someone lies, which makes them so assured of others intentions. I know it's not cannon. Just fun to think about
The way Worf taught the teen Klingons to smell animals to hunt with, I think your idea is more supported and less headcanon-y than you give it credit for!
What does it say about me that I feel robbed that the Klingon have an Emperor but we'll never hear a "FOR THE EMPEROR!" battlecry
In a time after Star Trek TOS, and before TNG, a book was written by John M Ford titled "The Final Reflection". This book tells a tale during the early years of the Federation and Klingon Empire's interactions but from a Klingon point of view. Much of this books work on Klingon culture was used in later iterations of movie and TV Klingons. Give it a read if you can find a copy somewhere.
Indeed, it's a good book.
I hope this doesn't seem narcissistic, but could you do a video on how humans are depicted in various fictional series such as Star Trek, Doctor Who, ect... ect. I think it's interesting to look at how we represent ourselves, for better or worse across various franchises.
That would be a cool video topic but I don't think it could really apply for Doctor Who because most of the human characters depicted in Doctor Who come from the 21st century (and for all intensive purposes, it's just normal, every day, present day earth). That's not to bash Doctor Who (in fact it's my favourite sci-fi show), in my opinion, one of it's greatest strengths is focusing on normal people in sci-fi scenarios. This is assuming you mean humans in terms of our culture.
+Johnny Kilroy Doctor Who actually could serve as a source for an entire series of episodes. Aside from the depiction of the modern sales clerk or college student in standard sci-fi scenarios, Doctor Who also touches upon how the Earth populous would respond to alien situations. From alien encounter support groups such as LINDA to international government task-forces like UnIT, to shady secret societies like Torchwood or The Foundry. Then there's the multiple slices of Humanity's future that we see or hear referenced: The many arks that left Earth when it was bombarded by deadly solar radiation, the at least three Human Galactic Empires, the Ood situation, the fact that we at some point evolve into sentient gas before re-evolving back into humanoid form, and so on. Then there's all those Doctor speeches that discuss the various aspects of Humanity that he loves or hates, which gives us the alien perspective on ourselves. So yeah, Doctor Who has more than an episodes worth on how we can be represented in sci-fi, both the good and the bad. I also really love Doctor Who, its my favourite franchise.
42ndLife
Those are some really good points that I didn’t think of. I was thinking you were taking more along the lines of how culture has evolved in sci-fi shows such as Star Trek with the federation. But like you said, if you were to focus on those aspects of DW as well as the great audio dramas produced by Big Finish and the the relevant virgin new adventures, you would definitely have a great base for human society in Doctor Who. I would say the Dalek Empire series would be a great place to start as it explores human nature and society when faced with overwhelming odds, in the form of the Daleks.
+Johnny Kilroy Agreed.
It's not "narcissistic" (ethnocentric) to ask to see a humans cultural index.
Considering us humans dealt with things like the Eugenics Wars, WW3, Terra Prime terrorists as well as having an interesting story on early pre-Federation exploration of space (when Earth's Starfleet was still part of the United Earth government and not the Federation), it'd be interesting to see and know what us humans were like before the Federation in Star Trek lore.
I like how for Worf's wedding he pushed Dr Bashir, a guy who always gets so uptight about "do no harm", so far he is ready to beat the stuffing out of him LOL
There once was a Klingon named Kahless,
Who loved to shop for his boots at Payless,
He started wearing gold chains, the Klingons thought him insane,
So from then on, they called him Drip Bayless.
We should forward this video to the writers of Star Trek: Discovery
We should forward them the Tellarite index too.
The Klingons on Discovery are the horribly disfigured ones that the Empire does not talk about.
@kris gunter: omg, do you americans really interpretate your kneeling-not kneeling-proanti-trump-whiteblack-supremacy-matter debate into a Star Trek series? I wish they would have chosen an arabian Captain with a long dark beard in cloths of a woman, then nobody would have an idea whats the symbolic for your political debate then. As for the klingons in discovery...i think even Marx looked more Klingon then they do :-)
First, 3 insults and a copy-paste text and you had to edit your post? wow...
I dont see anything in Harberts statement that is new to Star Trek. Those topics were in many episodes in all the series the main plot. Remember the TOS-episode where one fraction of the aliens were on the right side black and white on the left and the other vice versa? Or the isolationist Malcorians? Or the genetic altered humans who were purists? Whats wrong with mirroring actual topics?
Just who prey tell was labeled "racists"in the election,trump supporters or clintons?
- Seems to be very important to you as a canadian. Who cares about that? its exactly the topic in the TOS-episode i have mentioned. Do you call the insulting culture from both
sides as "political debate"?
Your smartness hasnt allowed you to read more about the decision to make Michael to the main char. Did you know that Roddenberry wanted to have a woman as the first officer, he wanted to have her even black. He wanted to mirror the actual society then and wanted to give an answer to the racial riots at this time.
As for the insults: You call somebody stupid by ASSUMING that he hasn't READ A QUOTE from a showrunner? perhaps you should go to quotes.com and getting the smartest guy on earth, increasing your IQ gradually by reading a quote after the other.
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Wow.
You make a ranting tirade against me based on arrogant assumptions and then take two days to construct a response to my comment and your whining that I made an EDIT?
You're even dumber and more arrogant then even I thought fabio and that's saying something.
Glory and Honor to House Martok!
Gloooory to yoooouu.....O_O and your hoooooouse.
'Iwlij jachjaj. Qapla'!
It's Kahless, not Khaless... honorless petaQ!
petaQ!=~Sh*t face
Glory to you and your house
You mean, qeylIS?
@@razgriz1723 What an honorable comment, Joshua son of Alejandro. You are clearly a most noble warrior.
@@PosthumousAddress you honor my house
I wonder if any Klingons learn about Samurai and Vikings and think “These people used to be interesting....what the he’ll happened”
As Quark tells Nog: "But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food [...] and they'll be as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon."
♫ And what is with the Klingons? Remember, in the day
They looked like Puerto Ricans and they dressed in gold lamé
Now they look like heavy metal rockers from the dead
With leather pants, and frizzy hair, and lobsters on their heads ♫
@@mattm2272 Better yet, there is an Enterprise episode that explains why it all happened.
@@mattm2272 Enterprise episode 4x15 and 4x16, a two part story. I guess you missed those episodes.
I like to call them angry Mexicans.
@@cashagon Angry Samurai Mexicans you mean? 😁
What's that song from?
they cant help but CLING-ON to there traditions^^
Weak. Like the klingons......
long live the Romulan star empire.
That cook is the voice of Bleeding Gums Murphy!!!! Damn even BGM got Honor!!!!
I would absolutely love a historical timeline video of the Klingons from you guys, and I really hope that there are enough people with this same line of thinking so that you guys may be persuaded to make it. :)
QUWYKXZ The UA-cam channel civilizationex has some great videos.
God every time I see STD "Klingons" I die a little inside...
Competition between Scottie´s Haggis, with Worf´s Gagh! The great Star Trek cook off!!
i have always thought that the Klingons were like the ancient Vikings
That's what i was thinking
I think it would be cool to learn more about Kahless and then the non-warrior Klingons
There is one thing about the Klingon culture that has never sat right with me. Consider the following three quotes from DS9...
>Worf> "Our gods are dead. Ancient Klingon warriors slew them a millennia ago. They were more trouble than they were worth."
>Sirella> "With fire and steel did the gods forge the Klingon heart. So fiercely did it beat, so loud was the sound, that the gods cried out, On this day we have brought forth the strongest heart in all the heavens. None can stand before it without trembling at its strength. … And when the two hearts began to beat together, they filled the heavens with a terrible sound. For the first time, the gods knew fear. They tried to flee, but it was too late. The Klingon hearts destroyed the gods who created them and turned the heavens to ashes."
>Worf> "The Hur'q invaded our homeworld over one thousand years ago. What they could not pillage, they destroyed."
Look at all three together, and taken literally, the Hur'q invasion would predate the creation myth. So obviously they can't be taken literally. But there is a strange sort of parallel, and it would make a great deal of sense if the stories got jumbled in the continued re-telling of the almost-entirely-oral history of the Klingon culture.
If the gods were the Hur'q.
If we assume that Star Trek Online got the Hur'q almost entirely wrong, and the reason why the Klingon anatomy is so overdesigned with built-in redundancies is because it was engineered. If the Hur'q genetically engineered the Klingons to be a warrior-slave race which, in the same manner as Khan Noonien Singh, was too powerful to be controlled by their creators, overthrowing them and driving them from the homeworld forever. Which would easily explain how Klingons acquired the technologies of a warp-capable civilization.
And why the stories have contradictions, because of a purposeful change in the traditional narrative to dismiss the importance of the Hur'q involvement in their rise to power.
Sense making?
This is really interesting and makes sense
expanding on how family and romantic relationships work could be interesting
Currently learning Klingon on Duolingo, after my copy of The Klingon Dictionary had been gathering dust for the last 25 years.
according to trek cannon there is one ancient race that has often came close to almost ending the klingons in the form of the Hurq. An ancient race that Invaded the Klingon homeworld over 1000 years ago in trek cannon
Lol don't lie man
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Essentially, they're Space Vikings. 😜
More like the Mongols, actually...with a dash of Japanese culture.
More like Kshatariya from ancient India. Vikings had no honor. They were raiders.
@@balgill5326 So what? Under who's law? They traveled far, fought brutally, and kept the spoils of war. Thats what makes them ruthless and thus honorable to any warrior. In fact, many other cultures were raiders in some way, shape or form. They still can, and do considered themselves honorable... Fighting, dying in battle, or surviving and singing of Val Halla for their fallen in a epic, feast based fashion. Its not only honorable, but fascinating the way they lived in a time were laws all were subjective and limited to the culture that can best enforce them. To be a "raider" in ancient times means you're doing what you must and surviving a world where cultures and peoples can come and go at the drop of a hat...
Don't be so short sighted in life.
Space orcs,sir
Qapla’!
I would love a cultural index exploring Klingon history with the races they subjugated, the Fek'Ihri and the Hur'q.
I just found this channel and I'm loving it!
I would like to know more about the house structure and what keeps Klingon society from civil war.
Sweet thanks guys the Klingons are hands down my favourite Species across sci-fi
Would you please make a playlist of all your ST cultural indexes? I'd love to just sit and let them play. Haha. They're so good!
I love you. Im so glad i found your channel
Excellent video, guys! Just excellent!
1:11 sombrero space ship!
I would def like to see more of like Klingon life and religion. Their dating and marriage practices and their military and war like thinking. I know I’m probably going to drop but love the Klingon race very interesting
The woman lets out a blood curdling war cry, while the man reads her love poetry.
@@DinoSarma that's sex,not dating or marriage.
Wow that’s like Thor for Star Trek which is insane. 10/10 well done gentlemen well done indeed.
majQa'! I have always loved the thlIngan culture. I would love to see a more in-depth view detailing the pre-warp culture and how greatly they might have differed from their current warrior state. Qapla'!!
Subcribed keep it up and keep it correct, keep up the great job! Ty
Second voice is WAAY to low ... :(
What would I like to hear? Everything the 'other' voice says. Literally. Everything. He. Says. Is. Inaudible. Please learn to balance volume
i really like ur vids... keep it up!
You should open up each off these with the Borg Species # classification. Would add a certain level of validation to these discussions of various species. I wonder if the Borg classify themselves similarly? As in perhaps species 0001?
love all your culture index videos on species from StarTrek, could you make one on Betazoids, please?
Thank you Lt. Cmdr. Prahl
Man, I wish there were more Klingon videos. Like the life and mythos of Kahless, Klingon history and rites.
Klingon proverb, Great deeds, great songs.
Like Kanye west?
Very good videos .... as a Star Trek fan for 30 plus years and as a Cultural Anthropologist I give you 3.9 out of 4 tribbles for this video! If you ever need a "scientist" to pepper your stuff with anthropological brickabrack it would do great honor to my house, but remember the 111 rule!
These videos are so cool.
Klingon ships are always cool, Trek Yards do a good job explaning things, BUT you are very enjoyable to listen to voice clear and even tone, you did get some help on this on.
The bit about klingon asassins needing to follow honor codes makes "the undiscovered country" even more interesting?
They were desperate as all hell trying to achieve their mission,
It kinda goes to show just how devastatingand brutal a klingon could be without their strict codes
The Klingon nuance has waxed and waned so much over the series. I loved the contrast in TNG between Worf's fundamentalist ideals with the realities of Imperial politics and administration, perhaps best embodied by Gowron. Neither man's perspective was entirely dismissed or entirely embraced. The series, and audience, are naturally going to find Worf's perspective more sympathetic, and the integrity he shows and values is indeed attractive; but it's also true that Worf lived most of his life with the _idea_ of the Klingon Empire, not the day-to-day realities of it. He engaged with it as it suited _him_ rather than the leaders and political figures within it, who had to first make themselves relevant, by service or confrontation, to the existing context within the Empire.
I'm glad we see a glimpse into Klingon civilization which shows depth, and well, "humanity". Klingons are not all "warriors", or space pirates, or maurauders, or blood thirsty mindless grunts. Yes, they DO have a culture dominated by the military as has happened with certain human societies on earth, and they are are also more aggressive in nature than humans, vulcans and andorians, but you cannot thrive as a civilization if every member of said civilization is a brute warrior. They too have artists, scientists, politicians, philosophers, writers, etc. You can't be a successful species that created one of the largest galactic powers in the quadrant by being a PURELY barbaric warlike race which is often (if not always) how they're depicted. Their toughness, their population numbers (they populate a lot more than people realize), their aggressive demeanor, their strength, all have served them well, but that isn't enough to maintain a galactic empire, even if for most of its history it was highly decentralized and fragmented between the great houses. In Star Trek, which is mostly in space, we often see the Klingons in only ONE aspect, which is their military, and fair enough, you see their space ships interacting with the Federation which are mostly fighting ships, and you see their warriors who command these ships. But Klingons are as smart as we are and as complex as we are. I literally applauded when I watched this scene the first time.
Who builds Klingon ships if every one is a warrior? Who does the honor less work like cleaning the toilets? Who repairs the toilets? Who enforces their civil laws on the daily level?
The main civilian Klingon I can think of is the chef cooking on DS9s promenade.
Everyone is a "warrior" but not everyone is a soldier, For Klingon Civilians fighting is a pastime not a job.
I would love to see you guys do one on the Klingon timeline
This was excellent
Yes, please, a timeline video!
Thanks for vidz gratz on sub's
Without the Klingons, there is no trek. They were there from the beginning. Quapla!
do a video on klingon haberdashery
I really want to hear more about the Klingons from you guys.
Nice
Klingons the Scotts of star trek.
I love the Klingon!
Klingons: We killed our gods. You haven't experienced Nietzsche until you've read him in the original Klingon.
I thought it was Shakespeare but I like your take
So glad Klingons are being further developed by CBS "We start talking about new scripts, and I get really deep into the canon, and especially with Klingon history. And there's still lots of cool stuff coming [within] the cultural theater. [We’re trying to] make Klingons as real of a species as they can be, because growing up on all the different planets under the Empire - [look at how much cultural variation] we [humans] have for just a few thousand years, on one planet, how many different foods and architecture and designs that we have as culture on Earth. The Klingons growing up on multiple planets, of course, would have a very varied sort of aesthetic."Glenn Hetrick
Even if you put one speciee on 2 continents you get 2 after enough time. One species can not grow up on multiple planets, this would be multiple species Meeting not before at least one has grown up and is capable of visiting the other.... So what you say is just out right wrong.
Also what cbs Shows us under the alternate licence looks more like a reptiloid than a primate evolution, so a whole other Typus. This means it can only be a second species. On the other side, nothing in klingon culture defined by decades of Trek, gives room for 2 species within the empire, without one being klingons and one only being subjects of the empire. So these creatures are by no rational explanation the klingons we know.
There is only one possibility left.... They ARE another species, but maybe there was 2 on chronos.... Discovery is another timeline, a alternate reality, so they are maybe the other species, the other klingons.... But in this case, one race needs to have subjegated or eliminated the other and vice versa.... Long before the Kelvin incident that defines the bresking point there the timelines Split, so evrn this explanation dont work. They are another species in a Position there no so different species can be explained. This is no "further development" this is ignoring of fscts, kicking the respect for the work of others in the back and out right honorless abuse of a great people' s legacy.
These are not my klingons.
How about a video about the Klingons relationships with other races and civilizations? The Federation and the Romulans are the most obvious ones to cover, but they have also had conflicts with and expressed opinions shared across their culture about Cardassians, The Founders, The Jem'Hadar, The Ferengi, The Breen and The Borg. If we take Star Trek Online into account, they've also had things to say about The Undine and The Iconians.
Interesting.
Success indeed!
Damn that one klingon woman is rocking the gun show.
Vikings and Klingons are very simlar in culture , i bet that was by design .)
Actually Klingons were supposed to resemble the russians.
Love the channel. Hate having to ride the volume knob to balance your voices.
My biggest question regarding Klingons is how a warrior race gets its butt handed to them by almost every race in the series! Vulcans are strong for sure, but humans can handle a fight with them (old man Captain Picard got ambushed by 2 and won with the aid of an old woman). In Deep Space 9 a Trill Dax fights and wins against Klingons with Batleths, and even a skinny-armed Bajoran held her own when they tried to take Dax’s symbiont! Commander Sisko laughed when a Bajoran male punched him in the face, but a female took on and out Klingon mercs.
I don’t know, sounds like they have one helluva hype man
Q'apla! Klingons are the Viking/Samurai warriors in space! And prune juice is their version of the green spirit: Absynth! So, when Worf orders a prune juice, he's imbibing nothing short if a 90% shot... 😅
It is crazy how the differences in the selective pressures in habitable biospheres the diversity is exclusively foreheads noses ears eyebrows and skintone. It is almost like it is actually dictated by the limitations in production costs for costume design.
The court fell into a low murmur as Worf's address was cut short. A dark figure stood in the entrance to the Great Hall. "Forgive my late arrival." It spoke. Worf moved instinctively to the foot of the Chancellor's steps. The figure walked now towards him flanked by 6 Bek. 3 either side. The light illuminating a Male Klingon, but no one Worf recognised. Or was there something?
"I had heard the Council had fallen into a sorry state. I was not prepared at just how far."
The Klingon stopped a short distance before Worf. Far enough to take two steps before he could engage with a blade, but close enough. Worf sized this threat up and down. He WAS familiar, but...
The other Klingon gave a single guttural command and his Entourage broke off and stood down and walked to the side. He then looked at Martok a churlish grin on his face.
"A good thing then, that I have brought a gift that might alleviate the problems of the Council"
Martok, by the 10 years since taking charge had tried to reduce the zeal that had gripped the Great Houses of the Empire, following the Dominion War. He'd relinquished territory back to the Cardassians they had gained through battle, which he placated dissenters by re enforcing the need for domestic recovery. He succeeded for a time, but he was, in his own word's "A General, not a politician."
He had hoped Worf would accept his offer and join him as his right hand, but Feklar have him, he chose Starfleet. Martok retreated to Bloodwine and tried to navigate the Barge as best he could, but he was a fighter. He needed an enemy. Now the enemies were indecipherable from friends and he choked on the position. When Worf returned, he felt it was like the story of the young Klingon who refused to defend his village from a beast that hunted his people, he ran into the hills instead. He returned 4 years later carrying the Carcass of the Beast's broodmother on his back, only to find the village had all been devoured.
Great video. Thank you for not poisoning it with the Star Trek: Discovery abominations.
Not that he really needed to. Discovery's first season sucked, but they actually properly portrayed Klingons in Season 2. The fact the D7 was created and made their new "ship of the Line" helped a lot too.
11:54 Yep, the Hurq are totally gone. They won't be coming back. Nope. Mark Hale won't be running into them at some point in STO.
I can confidently say that your videos and channel are leagues upon leagues better than Star Trek Discovery.
I'm intrigued by Klingon politics. For example, how does a person become Governor of a planet in the Empire? What type of government positions can a member of the Klingon High Council hold simultaneously? For example, as a Member of the Council and/or Klingon General and Governor?
What type of central command structure is there for the Empire? Do the individual Houses have their own military? If the Empire, as a whole, has a military and each of the 24 houses have a force, then there are at least 25 branches for their Defense forces
Do a video on the Goa'uld from stargate. They are my favorite sci fi bad guys
ship and there history how do klingons earn their ships names
We need some info on hybrids...
Half Klingon half.....
Human
Vulcan (I think that this would be the most ruthless hybrid)
Romulan (highly emotional but nonetheless brutal)
Borg? (Well not a hybrid, but their ruthlessness added to the consensus would make them rather wanton to conflict, even more than average)
What is that animated TOS battle at the beginning?
I think I've seen it somewhere but I can't remember.
Can you do a cultural index covering the Yautja, the alien race in Predator?
I'd be interested in more about the structure of Klingon Government.
1) What type of actions must a Chancellor have the support of a majority of the Council before it goes into effect? What type of actions can The High Council do to override the decisions of the Chancellor?
2) How similar or different is the office of Chancellor of the Empire to that of President of the United States?
3) what is the command structure for their Fleet?
I always reckoned the physical differences between TOS and later were because the KE was a polyglot, multi-species empire just like the UFP.
Next aspect of Klingons: using any particular screen shot something less than 4 times in a given vid
Worf and Riker are like brothers 👍 👍
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You should definitely do a video on why they have ridges, including the extra censory receptors the Discovery Klingons have in their ridges.
I would love to know the Klingon take on Golf .
One few empires to have the role of Emporer as a cerimonial
3 of the boys were ambitious.
10 thousand subs 4 years ago; Now 117 thousand.
I would definitely like to see an entire history of the Klingons who were they before warp technology who were the herc why do they have ridges and then why did The Ridges simply go away for a little bit until later on.
NEED A BORG ONE!
Who would win in a war Kilngons or Sontarans?
6:15 oh I seee. Darmok and Jalad
October 2017: 10k subscribers.
October 2020: nearing 98k subscribers.
Not a bad track record, Rick.
Do Nietzcheans from Andromeda
This was sweet 🎂
Glory and honor to the House of Grilka!