Who Was Rassilon? (Doctor Who)

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  • @joncorner4913
    @joncorner4913 4 роки тому +200

    Imagine, spending hours and hours of pre production, research, editing and recording this video, only for season 12 to happen

    • @omega311888
      @omega311888 3 роки тому +50

      i and many others refuse to accept anything after capaldi as canon. chibnal crapped on 50+ years of history. whats worse is they ( whoever is in charge of approving scripts and stories ) allowed his travesties to be put on film. i hoping that SOMEONE over there will come to their senses and erase all his nonsense. hell, at this point i'd welcome moffat back even though his writings were often pointlessly convoluted and nonsensical.
      until then, for us at least, capaldi was the last Doctor.

    • @tylerreed7796
      @tylerreed7796 3 роки тому +12

      Nah fam stop it season 12 didn't happen. It's gonna be non cannon. Right ? RIGHT!? 😭

    • @tylerreed7796
      @tylerreed7796 3 роки тому +10

      @@omega311888 I agree with your statement my friend, and you do have to admit though when it comes to crafting multi season long plot threads. Steven Moffitt was definitely top tier at doing so.

    • @ryanbarnecutt4308
      @ryanbarnecutt4308 3 роки тому +12

      tHe TiMeLeSs ChIlD.

    • @eggnorman
      @eggnorman 2 роки тому +3

      @@omega311888 No, The Doctor died in season 12 for me. It's just sad that this is where we are.

  • @wukongamatics2748
    @wukongamatics2748 5 років тому +110

    Poor Omega, he wasn’t bad, he basically invented time travel. He just went mad from being trapped in a alternate dimension.

    • @jeckjeck3119
      @jeckjeck3119 5 років тому +13

      Well, he is basically anti-matter god now.

    • @drd2121
      @drd2121 3 роки тому +4

      @@jeckjeck3119 similar abilities are associated with the Swarm? Huh.

  • @Nighthawke70
    @Nighthawke70 5 років тому +133

    I'm glad Dalton took the role. The venom and passion he put into it went over the top.
    "On your knees mankind!". Still gives me goosebumps.

    • @Drp_br_
      @Drp_br_ 3 роки тому +11

      “YOULL DIE WITH ME, DOCTOR!!!”

    • @Starkiller5121
      @Starkiller5121 2 роки тому +9

      Timothy Dalton commanded presence in The End of Time. He's a fine actor.

    • @fightfan6700
      @fightfan6700 2 роки тому +4

      I WILL NOT…DIE!!!

    • @rgreed20081
      @rgreed20081 2 роки тому

      Dalton is the best of all of the Rassilons.

    • @danivarius
      @danivarius 2 місяці тому

      @@Starkiller5121aye. Loved his Bond!

  • @derpypostergaming5707
    @derpypostergaming5707 5 років тому +88

    It’s interesting how the timelords used titles instead of names, the doctor, the master, and the general being an example

    • @c0nvict_pleb174
      @c0nvict_pleb174 2 роки тому +10

      The Rani too but there’s time lords like Morbius and Borusa them keeping their real names as titles though

    • @megatron805
      @megatron805 Рік тому +6

      @C0nvict_pLeB17 Stand back Doctor! I am beginning to Morb.

  • @MsCreepyChan
    @MsCreepyChan 4 роки тому +130

    "Who knows, he might get converted into a Cyberman"
    CHIBNAL WATCHES CERTIFIABLY INGAME CONFIRMED!

    • @zyme5998
      @zyme5998 4 роки тому +7

      But wasn't Rassilon exiled by then (events of the timeless children) meaning he's one of the very few survivors? Then again somehow Gallifrey moved back into a pocket dimension after being located near the distant end of the time stream for its own protection so CHIBNAL either skipped over who knows how much plot or just ignored/removed/pretended it didn't happen... Maybe he stole the recipe for RETCON from Captain Jack (& Torchwood Three)

    • @CyberController-
      @CyberController- 4 роки тому +1

      @@zyme5998 No it's made clear in Hell Bent that Gallifrey leaves the pocket universe, they just wait until all their enemies go extinct and then jump on out. When The Master talks about Gallifrey's Pocket Universe, he just means them being at the end of the universe.

    • @zyme5998
      @zyme5998 4 роки тому +1

      @@CyberController- That would make more sense, but the only reason I can think of for him calling 'a place in the universe near the end of the timestream' a pocket universe is to just to lump it in with (s)he's cuckoo for coco puffs why should we expect what the Master says to make sense? Course why should we believe anything the master says anyway...

    • @eternallylearning2811
      @eternallylearning2811 3 роки тому +1

      Honestly I was kinda expecting the cybermen to turn on the master and make him an cyberpunk as well.
      They did that with everyone else human shaped they worked with as far as I remember

    • @admiralshadowofasunderedst3068
      @admiralshadowofasunderedst3068 3 роки тому +1

      @@zyme5998 actually not quite the main defense of galifrey the transduction barrier places galifrey in a pocket universe out of sync with the rest of the universe so that anything the timelords don't won't thrh can't get thru.

  • @IanHollis
    @IanHollis 7 років тому +376

    I'd love to see a Game of Thrones style show set in the Whoniverse simply called "Gallifrey" and would basically take everything talked about in this video and turn it into a big budget TV series.

    • @MrPingn
      @MrPingn 6 років тому +6

      The trick would be to distinguish it from Game of Thrones to prevent it from just riding on its coat tails.

    • @nukenade4623
      @nukenade4623 5 років тому +8

      well we already know the ending to it, the doctor escaping and the daleks are basically the white walkers of this universe (except less pathetic)

    • @extraplain2412
      @extraplain2412 5 років тому +8

      Doctor Who's kill count must be wayy larger then GoTs 😂😂

    • @OldJerzyDevil
      @OldJerzyDevil 5 років тому +3

      The idea sounds good, maybe as a mini series. The writing would need to be tight especially in light of last season. Or it could end up like the BSG spin-off based on the creation of the Cylon, the name of which I've completely repressed, apparently.

    • @adaeptzulander2928
      @adaeptzulander2928 5 років тому +8

      Big Finish productions audio play - "Gallifrey". The play is all about the internal politics of Gallifrey and its CIA (Celestial Intervention Agency).

  • @JackBlackadder
    @JackBlackadder 4 роки тому +122

    "Or he may get himself converted into a cyberman..."
    Yeah... About that.

  • @Wintermute01001
    @Wintermute01001 7 років тому +603

    Kinda pissed they made Rassilon such a pushover in Hell Bent after he was so awesome in the Tennant era.

    • @lmichaelr
      @lmichaelr 7 років тому +2

      Wintermute01001 0

    • @LegendarySpaceRipper
      @LegendarySpaceRipper 7 років тому +36

      Moffat is ruining Capaldi's Doctor Who. Best episode of this series was the ones with Missy and The Master. Capaldi's first season was much better. I think Missy and Master should stay live though.

    • @ganados0
      @ganados0 6 років тому +11

      It's likely the Time Lords restored him to life with concessions or handicap.

    • @shoogamoogaman
      @shoogamoogaman 6 років тому +52

      Remember he was also embarrassingly defeated in Tennant's Era, losing the trust of the Time Lords. Underneath his menace, Rassilon was a coward and it all began to show as he cracked in Hell Bent. The Time Lords respected the Doctor as the one who truly lead them to greatness, and like any despot, Rassilon whinged about wanting his power back and thus was exiled.

    • @pp-wl1tf
      @pp-wl1tf 6 років тому +15

      It makes sense, as Rassilon failed to save his people and the Doctor did, so they'd be more likely to trust him.

  • @hiccuphufflepuff176
    @hiccuphufflepuff176 6 років тому +106

    "The anger of a good man is not a problem. Good men have too many rules."
    Good men don't need rules. Today is not the day to find out why the Time Lords have so many.

    • @extraplain2412
      @extraplain2412 5 років тому +4

      He doesn't say time lords though he clearly says "I have so many"

    • @Herrscher-of-Autism
      @Herrscher-of-Autism 5 років тому +3

      @@extraplain2412 He wasn't talking about the Doctor...

    • @UGNAvalon
      @UGNAvalon 3 роки тому +1

      And during the Last Great Time War the Time Lords broke too many....

  • @xyon172
    @xyon172 5 років тому +26

    As a long time whovian, I've had a load of tis stuff rattling around in my head for a long time. But when I try to explain it all out to someone, I get lost in the 'muddled continuity' (A slight miss-quote).
    This was amazing! I don't think such a concise and well sourced essay on this exists anywhere else.
    You've woven 'canon' and 'non-canon', and even 'semi-canon' into probably the clearest whole picture of Rassilon there has been.
    I am SERIOUSLY impressed mate, for whatever little that may mean.

  • @kuribayashi84
    @kuribayashi84 7 років тому +368

    He was James Bond once, so there is that.

    • @jeanettecarnell8933
      @jeanettecarnell8933 7 років тому +45

      Would that not be interesting if Bond was a time lord? had many faces.

    • @brentvettel5343
      @brentvettel5343 7 років тому +4

      Jeanette Carnell he is

    • @dakariszulu
      @dakariszulu 7 років тому +21

      He was the 'Don't fuck with me' Bond, should have had a better run imo (also he's a slasher, a slasher of prices)

    • @johnIZaUWL
      @johnIZaUWL 7 років тому +2

      Schwatvogel he didn't age very well clearly!

    • @LegendarySpaceRipper
      @LegendarySpaceRipper 7 років тому +1

      And Malcolm Murray.

  • @enterprise1476
    @enterprise1476 7 років тому +153

    An interesting tidbit about the Vampires. If one of us entered their universe we could feed off their life forces like they would ours in our universe.

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 7 років тому +11

      Wait so the virus is an interdimensional virus which feeds off the lifeforce of beings in another universe and funnels it back to the timelord?

    • @Jasonm25870
      @Jasonm25870 5 років тому +1

      The word is TITBIT

    • @wingedfish1175
      @wingedfish1175 5 років тому +1

      @@Jasonm25870 unless your American or canadian

  • @GiratinaofFury
    @GiratinaofFury 7 років тому +82

    There is another major event in Rassilon's life that is often overlooked, which is told in the Eighth Doctor Audio Adventures. During the earlier days in which time travel was being developed, and regeneration was being developed, Rassilon foresaw a future in which an alien race would eventually surpass the Time Lords in their technology, and take control. Refusing to accept this, he released a virus, similar to that which gave the Time Lords regeneration, but repurposed it so that all life would eventually evolve into the Gallifreyan norm. Anything that didn't evolve to this state was sealed within a universe of looped time. Within this pocket of reality, time didn't function on a linear cycle, existing as a loop, which would start with life emerging, and then being culled some twenty to thirty thousand years, before restarting. He then tried to use the Doctor to create a weapon made from "Anti-Time" to finish off the divergent universe once and for all, creating the monster of Gallifreyan myth, Zagreus. This failed, however, as Zagreus was convinced by the Doctor to not side with Rassilon, and throw him into the Divergent universe to face his enemies directly.
    It is safe to assume that this is canon, as it was the Divergent World of Bortesoye where the Doctor befriended a Eutermesan named C'rizz, who he names when he is about to drink the Elixir of Life in Night of the Doctor.

    • @nyazillagojira7079
      @nyazillagojira7079 6 років тому +6

      If i may, it seems certain creatures tend to be more true to nature as in their nature. Probably some try to use that as a weapon for personal gain. When the Doctor spoke them they realized they were being played. So my thoughts are somthing like ' You just played us. THAT ALONE is all i need to deal with you.

    • @SimonFoston
      @SimonFoston 5 років тому

      Some name-dropping doesn't make something canon. The C'rizz mentioned in the mini-sode could have been almost a totally different character.

    • @eccremocarpusscaber5159
      @eccremocarpusscaber5159 5 років тому +6

      Simon Foston but why would the writers use the name that is associated with the eight doctor, yet not actually mean that character. Your argument is obtuse.

    • @SimonFoston
      @SimonFoston 5 років тому +1

      @@eccremocarpusscaber5159 ​ Cam Bar Perhaps I should have said an alternate version of that character. It's not unprecedented. No one assumes, for instance, that Arthur Dent in the Hitch Hiker's radio series is supposed to be exactly the same character as the Arthur Dent from the novels. The First Doctor, Ian, Barbara and Susan in the novelisation of "The Daleks" are all noticeably different from the characters in the TV serial. No reason to suppose those characters the Eighth Doctor talked about couldn't be TV counterparts rather than the exact same ones from the audios. It's not as if any of the actors make any appearances.

  • @MGSBigBoss77
    @MGSBigBoss77 4 роки тому +22

    Take a strong shot of alcohol every time Timothy Dalton's Rassilon walks toward camera in this video (lol).

  • @IQ20Beer50
    @IQ20Beer50 4 роки тому +176

    Chinballs in 2020:
    "I'm about to end this man's whole lore video."

    • @Neslakim1
      @Neslakim1 4 роки тому +1

      explain

    • @mitrokutvonen9166
      @mitrokutvonen9166 4 роки тому +9

      @@Neslakim1 rassilon is the timeless child's adoptive parent. He/she is the traveler who found the doctor at the portal thing

    • @chaddanylak8706
      @chaddanylak8706 4 роки тому

      @@mitrokutvonen9166 rassilon got kick of his planet by the timeless child

    • @enzyte9215
      @enzyte9215 4 роки тому +5

      Mitro Kutvonen that hasn’t been confirmed this is just speculation

    • @DURANDAL1717
      @DURANDAL1717 4 роки тому +2

      Welcome too what I'm calling the "lore war"

  • @TimEaston
    @TimEaston 4 роки тому +15

    Did Rick know 2 years ago about the Master's plan to turn timelords into Cyber timelords

  • @himynameisben95
    @himynameisben95 4 роки тому +44

    Well, so much for this.

    • @findme7585
      @findme7585 4 роки тому +8

      No, Chibnall Who isn’t canon, I think we’ve decided,

    • @somerandomguy2073
      @somerandomguy2073 4 роки тому +1

      Basically all of this is unchanged. Don't get me wrong, I didn't like The Timeless Children, but all it really changed was a few relatively minor details (and placed the Doctor in the background of the story) but pretty much everything else is the same.

    • @drd2121
      @drd2121 3 роки тому

      @@somerandomguy2073 yeah I think the idea is that everything Rassilon did still happened but a lot more was going on too. Even though they might’ve became aware of regeneration due to the Timeless Child, the true source of regeneration, being exposure to the time vortex and the cells/virus that was developed by Time lord scientists (potentially using the Timeless Child’s DNA) would be where he learnt the true origin of regeneration and decided to dictate it.

  • @DaxHamel
    @DaxHamel 6 років тому +13

    A thousand times thank you!
    This is the first time I find a clear, cogent presentation which I can digest.

  • @Cabolt44
    @Cabolt44 7 років тому +71

    Even the Doctor had respect for Rassilon, until the atrocities he committed in the Time War (like warping Borusa into the possibility engine) made the Doctor despise him. Even what he did to his old friend Omega and what happened with the Other as well. Makes total sense that he regenerated into a whiney twat by 'Hell Bent.'

    • @CertifiablyIngame
      @CertifiablyIngame  7 років тому +17

      Ah no! I had no idea Borusa was one of the retro-evolved! No wonder the Doctor made it seem personal.

    • @Cabolt44
      @Cabolt44 7 років тому +13

      Borusa was the successful experiment and considering the Doctor's history with Borusa - him being his teacher at the academy - no wonder the Doctor acted the way he did to Rassilon. Read Engines of War for more details

    • @iceoriental123
      @iceoriental123 7 років тому +8

      He turned Borusa into the Possibility Engine, which could somehow see all timelines across all universes despite time being totally screwed.

    • @bluefenix211
      @bluefenix211 7 років тому +6

      I always wondered if rassilon was the doctor's father along with the Master

    • @eccremocarpusscaber5159
      @eccremocarpusscaber5159 5 років тому +6

      Vesra well, “the other” who was the third member of the group of Rassilon and Omega has always been hinted to be the Doctor. But am interesting thought!

  • @Gangerworld
    @Gangerworld 4 роки тому +15

    I guess we know who Thremix is now. Can't remember her name, but the woman who found the Timeless Child and got that sweet juicy regeneration dna from it.

  • @Dizz1991
    @Dizz1991 4 роки тому +64

    The timeless child really screws everything up

    • @jonathantrevatt4167
      @jonathantrevatt4167 4 роки тому +3

      Maybe, maybe not.
      You could just say that the regeneration technology was just from researching him

    • @debbieroberts5866
      @debbieroberts5866 4 роки тому +3

      The timeless who? I ask with fingers plugged in both ears and singing nursery rhymes very loudly...

    • @selimprimovic2239
      @selimprimovic2239 4 роки тому +6

      @@debbieroberts5866 we know of no timeless child is ba sing se

    • @honeysucklecat
      @honeysucklecat 4 роки тому +4

      No it doesn’t. It opens doors of possibilities.

    • @selimprimovic2239
      @selimprimovic2239 4 роки тому +4

      @@debbieroberts5866 no it kills 57 years of lore and puts a little child instead. ITS FUCKING AWFUL DONT PROTECT IT JUST BECAUSE U ARE A SUPERFAN

  • @Ginger_FoxxVT
    @Ginger_FoxxVT 7 років тому +174

    Omega was such a cool villain though.

    • @Greater98er
      @Greater98er 7 років тому +10

      NOTHE I'm by no means am expert, but if your achievements​ (both bad and good) is harnessing the power of a dying star for effectively infinite power, how are you a bad guy? Sure he had bad friends, but one of even the most loved US President's family made their money bootlegging during prohibition. (JFK)

    • @hugomarrow4630
      @hugomarrow4630 7 років тому +14

      Greater98er You may want to watch the Three Doctors...

    • @tranz2deep
      @tranz2deep 7 років тому +5

      @Greater98er
      Omega (pronounced OH-meh-gah) became increasingly militaristic when Rassilon wished to undertake retrenchment. Indeed, his empowerment through the power of a dying star resulted in egomania.
      It says something about his ego that he kept going after his body had degraded to less than dust and _never even noticed_ (or went into total denial)...

    • @mikesands3109
      @mikesands3109 7 років тому +2

      Oh-me-gone?

    • @IronWarhorsesFun
      @IronWarhorsesFun 7 років тому

      THE BORG VIEW OMEGA AS PERFECTION.

  • @CaptArcadian
    @CaptArcadian 5 років тому +7

    Meanwhile, on Gallifrey: "we seal of the planet... no one leaves... and cut the phone lines... contain the spread of misinformation."

  • @angelamccafferrty9487
    @angelamccafferrty9487 7 років тому +130

    Writers really must make more of the other timelords likeable again. In recent years they've been portrayed as elitist and quite annoying characters

    • @watcherzero5256
      @watcherzero5256 7 років тому +34

      Really we haven't spent enough time with them, during Bakers run there were several long stories taking place on Gallifrey that allowed you to get to know individuals but before and after they only really appeared as deus ex machina.
      One great potential, the Meddling Monk marooned on Earth during the middle ages, would be great if we saw him again he was the proto-master character but a lot more mischievous rather than pure evil.

    • @nyazillagojira7079
      @nyazillagojira7079 6 років тому +6

      I'm sure there may be a few. We saw the execution squad turn. So it's probably those on the other end. The (Common People).

    • @GrilloTheFlightless
      @GrilloTheFlightless 5 років тому +16

      I like Robert Holme’s version of the Time Lords - a race who have been so powerful for so long that they had become a bunch of stale, doddery old buffers. Just the sort of society that the Doctor would want to run away from.

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 4 роки тому +6

      Honestly that feels like a problem of new who as a whole. It favors humans and earth too much. That is to say when is the last time we got a non human companion (that actually traveled with the doctor in the tardis) or one from another time period. They really aren’t giving us that much time on another planet (no more than 1-2 episodes) or with non humans to get to know and develop their characters (on the level we see for companions). At this point Gallifrey is just a joke (well more accurately a plot device). At this point it has been destroyed in order to revive doctor who, brought back to give him more regenerations, somehow ended up at the end of the universe and out of the pocket dimension is was trapped in, and destroyed again because “series 11 was weak and we need to bring fans back” basically. Timelords aren’t going to get a chance to be like able as long as new who keeps treating Gallifrey like this.

    • @UGNAvalon
      @UGNAvalon 3 роки тому +6

      Considering how even the Doctor (humanity’s greatest ally among Time Lords) has looked down upon humanity on numerous occasions, I’m actually not surprised at the “snobbish” view we see of the Time Lords (from our primitive mayfly perspective).

  • @19750bob
    @19750bob 7 років тому +213

    Timelords arent a species they are an order of Gallifreyans. The gift of regeneration & the academy education & membership of the chapters set them apart.

    • @jamesryan6224
      @jamesryan6224 6 років тому +23

      They are, in fact, a species. They, unlike any others, have two, smaller, hearts.

    • @crazylarryjr
      @crazylarryjr 6 років тому +26

      The regeneration was not exclusive to just the time lords, it was a virus. Many died, but many survived and their children carried the regeneration. The thing that eventually separated the time lords and the normal Gallifreyans was the use of looming over natural birth and Rassilon's limiting the Timelord spots only to the loomers. Otherwise, there really was no difference

    • @jamesryan6224
      @jamesryan6224 6 років тому +4

      They WERE a species. Not animal, not human, thus a separate species. Biology 101

    • @trollzynisaacjohan1793
      @trollzynisaacjohan1793 5 років тому +8

      its been suggested that both elite and non elite can regenerate.
      Considering Jenny was just a clone "daughter" of the doctor and regenerated im guessing that all Gallifreyans can regenerate.

    • @jamesryan6224
      @jamesryan6224 5 років тому +5

      They are indeed a distinct species. They have two hearts, different blood, and other stuff.

  • @Hoveai
    @Hoveai 7 років тому +75

    You should look up the masters over the Time Lords called The Guardians of Time and the Guardians masters who go by The Grace. Little is known about The Grace only that it is said they can delete a time lord or even more so the whole species from all of time with a single thought. They also built the Key to time which was present in classic doctor who.

    • @peccatumDei
      @peccatumDei 7 років тому +8

      Very interesting, as a long time fan of the show, I'll have to look in to this myself. Back during the McCoy era, there was an attempt to return some of the mystery to the Doctor, implying that he was something more that a Time Lord.

    • @Hoveai
      @Hoveai 7 років тому +6

      Indeed. I have to rewatch a lot of the classics myself. I do remember the Exxilon Great City. Had the power to disable both Tardises and Dalek ships which is a very impressive feat. To bad they've lost their former knowledge.

    • @Riftsrunner
      @Riftsrunner 7 років тому +19

      peccatumDei Yes, they were trying to intimate that the Doctor was the third of a triumvirate with Rassilon and Omega called The Other. I believe he collaborated with them to create the Time Lords we know today. From the various sources I could find, he was supposed to be a Time Lord from a few millennia after the Time Lord's creation, but he knew he was instrumental in bringing them about. So he used a his Time Travel capsule (ie. a TARDIS) to travel back in time to try to change the attitudes of the Time Lords in his time. He attracts Rassilon's attention by showing a seal given to him from a later incarnation of Rassilon. He worked with Rassilon and Omega to created the technology they would use as Time Lords (regeneration, TARDIS's, and the Hand of Omega) The Other tried to convince him to change the direction the Time Lords would eventually follow. Rassilon, however, upon hearing this information decides to instead become more despotic because of the power the Time Lords in the future have. But paranoia took hold and he decided that Omega would be a political rival, so he sabotaged his ship to send him into the black hole. He also saw The Other as a potential rival and turn the Gallifreyian people on him to hunt him down and attempt to get the future technology he had. While trying to flee, he became trapped in the loom rooms, and his only option was to throw himself into them with the hope he would be recombined some time in the future. Rassilon became infuriated at this loss and decreed that all mention of The Other's real identity would be wiped from the history of Gallifrey. Eventually, The Other was recombined and took the name of the Doctor. The problem was that his memories were buried and it took his first six regenerations to trigger them into his awareness. This was to be expanded upon, but they cancelled the show before they could flesh it out much further.

    • @akjk4993
      @akjk4993 7 років тому

      Deco my house like galifray fast!

    • @UnchainedEruption
      @UnchainedEruption 7 років тому +2

      The Guardians were arguably the worst creation of Classic Who, and that entire "Key to Time" season was utter garbage. Only the Robert Holmes (Vengeance of Kroll I think?) story was decent at best. It is never explained what the key is, who the guardians are and how they have the powers of basically gods, why it is so important that they get the key, etc.
      However, JNT did help to give the Guardians some respect, as the character of Turlough and his story arc was brilliant. Enlightenment is definitely in the top 20-30 stories ever, if not top 10. Even then though, there's only so much that can be helped, as the Guardians by their nature are Gods, and God is a very weak character because he's completely one-dimensional and has no flaws or challenges. There's nothing interesting about a character that's perfect all the time, and it makes no sense why the Black Guardian even needs Turlough or the Key. If he's so powerful, why can't he just do what he wants to do himself?

  • @darth6466
    @darth6466 7 років тому +344

    how many agree with me that Time Lord's outclass sith and Jedi by far

    • @michaelmartin1644
      @michaelmartin1644 7 років тому +23

      definitley, i just wish Timelords wern't portrayed as scared weak people, in the classic series they were god like goth people with infinite amount of power.

    • @darth6466
      @darth6466 7 років тому +12

      Michael Martin Same. If they returned properly to the Universe like they were in the classic series and used all their powers again that would be amazing

    • @madpizzabasher
      @madpizzabasher 7 років тому +4

      Daniel Sudworth a lot of people or atleast they should

    • @iceoriental123
      @iceoriental123 7 років тому +22

      Time Lords aren't just your run-of-the-mill advanced aliens. They're literally bound into the Time Vortex surrounding the Multiverse. That's why the Doctor can literally feel time and changes in time that happened. Thanks to this, effects on time such as slowing time down or reversing it will not affect Time Lords and they can just walk through time barriers. Time loops also have no effect, as shown in The Lodger.
      Time Lords thus essentially have unnatural precognition abilities in relation to time across the Multiverse and can remember timelines that never existed. Time Lords make physics around them more rational by being present, which is why they could stomp out magic from the Multiverse and kill off gods with ease.
      There's more, but one of their best abilities is forced-regeneration, which can alter themselves into eldritch abominations. In Sky Pirates!, the Charon tries to kill the Doctor by blasting him witgh the energy of stars, and the Doctor's Time Lord DNA morphs him into a multi-dimensional monster big enough to crush the star the Charon resided in.

    • @UnchainedEruption
      @UnchainedEruption 7 років тому +4

      Daniel Sudworth I'm a massive Whovian and Star Wars fan, and...
      No. No they don't.

  • @locker1325
    @locker1325 5 років тому +3

    Fascinating stuff. Very entertaining. The amount of work involved to put this video together is simply staggering.

  • @SchardtCinematic
    @SchardtCinematic 7 років тому +48

    in Hell Bent they should have gotten Pierce Brosnan to play Rassilon since Timothy Dalton wasn't able to reprise his role.

    • @Yksinainensusi1
      @Yksinainensusi1 7 років тому +6

      Schardt Cinematic Productions They should have never made Hell Bent. Or at least change it very heavily...

    • @fricky11111
      @fricky11111 5 років тому

      lol...I see what you did there..

  • @victorpeterson3502
    @victorpeterson3502 7 років тому +4

    There's a lot of Rassilon stuff in the book "a brief history of the Time Lords" which gives a lot of answer! It's a great book!

  • @FarNoGaming
    @FarNoGaming 7 років тому +10

    The "How much Powah" joke earned you a sub! That was amazing.

  • @DCPatrol
    @DCPatrol 7 років тому +3

    Great video. Thank you for making them, I'm here 100% for Doctor Who, and would love to see more! Thanks again.

  • @darkage5
    @darkage5 7 років тому +3

    I found this quite randomly and really enjoyed your presentation.

  • @therlux
    @therlux 7 років тому +3

    a really good video.. congrats!!
    andd love that joke at 11:06

  • @MegaChris456
    @MegaChris456 7 років тому +47

    It'd be nice to see Omega again in a future episode.

    • @xyon172
      @xyon172 5 років тому +1

      My question is, 'Why MIssy?', when we could have had an awesome new Rani!

    • @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
      @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 5 років тому

      @@xyon172 I agree Michelle Gomez would have made an awesome Rani (they could have made the Bonny an Clide of time Lord's with the master ) but probably because of ratings etc. The master is just way more known ergo the appearance of a mistress is gonna push viewing figures more then a character that's not well known.

  • @sanguinemcorda4310
    @sanguinemcorda4310 4 роки тому +11

    here after season 12 finale and WOW

  • @donaldjohnson1148
    @donaldjohnson1148 6 років тому +8

    Wow, thank you for this video. I love when the wiser Dr. Who fans are able to put together clear and informative Who history for us relative newer fans (especially us in the States) that never had the benefits of learning backstory as it unfolded. I did watch some Dr. Who as a kid but unfortunately most of it was on my local public broadcast network and almost always out of season order. One week it could be Peter Davison then Jon Pertwee the next then over to McCoy. I couldn't coherently watch in proper order till the return of Who with Eccleston. Please keep these vids going.👌👌👍👍👍👍👍👍😆😆😆😆😆

  • @rhyanbennett2629
    @rhyanbennett2629 7 років тому

    This is one of, if not *the* best videos I have seen in this topic. Thanks man.

  • @WrongKindOfPot
    @WrongKindOfPot 6 років тому +1

    Bearing in mind that one timelord lifetime is already like 1200 years if not killed

  • @wawi911
    @wawi911 3 роки тому +1

    Very cool video! I just saw “the five doctors” for the first time and wondered what I was missing, this definitely filled the gap between that movie and modern (tv)who

  • @Paul_The_Spaceman
    @Paul_The_Spaceman 5 років тому +2

    For some reason the time travel and regeneration thing. Kind of gave me the idea that the timelords are really only one person.

  • @honeysucklecat
    @honeysucklecat 4 роки тому +4

    Timothy Dalton was EXCELLENT in that role.

  • @tcironbear21
    @tcironbear21 5 років тому +1

    I think canon-wise they are going with exposure to the Time-Vortex as the source of the Time-Lord's regeneration. Apparently a fissure to the Time-Vortex is a natural phenomena on Gallifrey. In the show, you need exposure to the energies of the Time-Vortex to read the circular language of the Gallifreyians. And exposure to the Time-Vortex is how a human (River Song) gained regeneration.

  • @alanblott4559
    @alanblott4559 7 років тому +3

    loved this......... thank you for your hours of research and work.

  • @hgwells1899
    @hgwells1899 4 роки тому +3

    2020: yeah, who tf was Rassilon, again?

  • @barrywerdell2614
    @barrywerdell2614 6 років тому +5

    remember in "The Five Doctors" he wasn't too kind either.

  • @starkileromega5065
    @starkileromega5065 7 років тому +7

    You know This Is What . I like .... So much fun Knowing the History That never Been Told in one time .
    I like that

  • @pden94
    @pden94 4 роки тому +1

    Interesting to see the ending about Rassilon becoming a Cyberman which is similar to what happened with the Master in the latest Doctor Who finale

  • @Lohnx
    @Lohnx 4 роки тому +2

    You have the same accent as Bradley Walsh who potrays Graham

  • @timbarter5958
    @timbarter5958 6 років тому +2

    Just a quick note on one or two suppressed myths & rumours about Rassilon. One is that he may also have been infected/bitten by a Great Vampire in the Great Vampire War; so given events like his rumoured orchestration of Omega's exile into the anti matter universe, he may not have been working entirely in Gallifrey's favour towards the end. Certainly he was ruthless & very much ruled by ego. Additionally you didn't mention the Other. The other is a significant figure given it's mysterious nature, but though most historical records relating to him were destroyed, their remains some statues in the Panopticon that depict Rassilon, Omega & the Other as a Triumvirate of powerful figures. - The Other is said to have advised or counciled Rassilon so he may play an important roll in Rassilon's formation of Timelord Society. Also there's a whole series of stories that actually feature Rassilon in the Big Finish 8th Doctor Audio dramas, & there's Rassilon's Foundry, from the Gallifrey Spin off, that shows that he was a xenophobic piece of work in the extreme

  • @TheValarClan
    @TheValarClan Рік тому

    Very nice compile Leeshan and much better than the last show runners understanding. Although when first introduced they were described as immortal. By the time Tom Baker came in to play of course they decide to not make them all powerful. I like the description and backstory information that you’ve compiled

  • @fossilized_treee_sap
    @fossilized_treee_sap 7 років тому +3

    This is a fantastic historical video! It's not often that I have an opportunity to learn new things about Who on UA-cam, and I loved every second of this. Well done!

    • @UnchainedEruption
      @UnchainedEruption 7 років тому

      gypsyninja I don't think any of it is real/canon. I've never seen anything supporting the stuff in the video based on the original or current show.

  • @julieontology7214
    @julieontology7214 5 років тому

    It was great to watch this video after listening to the Scrolls of Rassilon. Well done and very enjoyable!

  • @diosnelfrica7589
    @diosnelfrica7589 5 років тому +4

    He dedicated his time to have a small school of freaks to fight against some extra dimensional dude

  • @MistahBryan
    @MistahBryan 6 років тому +7

    Wow!
    This is the first of your videos I've seen.
    Sub'd, Liked and rang that "silly" bell
    Now to binge watch :)

  • @MeVsTheWorld01
    @MeVsTheWorld01 2 роки тому +3

    I had always wondered if Rassilon was The Master's father as The Master once described the fields of his father's land when he and The Doctor played together as boys and in the episode of The End Of Time, The Master looked so hurt when Rassilon described him " As a disease " and not to mention the amount of anger The Master had against Rassilon, when he accused Rassilon of " Doing this " to him---his entire life---in maybe to the reference to the never-ending beating of the drums in his head that never allowed him to have any kind of silent peace, which means that Rassilon had used his own son as a pawn and a tool in his own evil masterplan.

  • @joenesvick7043
    @joenesvick7043 5 років тому +11

    Proof that James Bond is a Timelord 🤣

  • @marine463
    @marine463 6 років тому +1

    Thank you so much for this very entertaining and enlightening video !

  • @darrylguerrant5101
    @darrylguerrant5101 7 років тому

    Great job! Being a fan it touched on points that I already knew. And of course some things I didn't. However, it seems to tie a back story together cleanly. A TV story about Gallifrey and/or Rassilon's rise to power? Love the idea! That is waiting to happen!

  • @messin1000
    @messin1000 7 років тому +4

    I always thought that rassilon was a title passed down.
    Or maybe he was able to give himself more regeneration cycles like how they gave the doctor a new cycle.

    • @iceoriental123
      @iceoriental123 7 років тому +4

      He had infinite regenerations.

    • @IOmoon6221
      @IOmoon6221 7 років тому +2

      Rassilon is immortal, he can regenerate infinitely as stated in The Five Doctors.

    • @yaboipie5861
      @yaboipie5861 5 років тому

      He was resurrected for the time war

    • @EditedAF987
      @EditedAF987 4 роки тому +1

      Cosmic Dragon he still had infinite regenerations though. In Gallifrey Time War 2 he mentions that he has infinite lives

    • @EditedAF987
      @EditedAF987 4 роки тому +1

      messin1000 I believe it’s implied that Rassilon introduced a genetic weakness into timelord biology restricting how many lives they could have to make sure none of them could outlive him

  • @alexsmits1960
    @alexsmits1960 7 років тому +6

    Rassilon=James Bond,now i see all clear&understand(ordered my thirth eye two weeks ago!

  • @FurryEskimo
    @FurryEskimo 6 років тому +9

    In all fairness, the Doctor just jumps back and forth through a section of time, causing changes. He doesn’t have a plan for how to deal with the end of time.
    His future is just to relive our presents over and over and over.
    At least the time lords had a real plan.
    It has a terrible cost, but everyone Was gonna die anyways.

  • @radionoakmont7756
    @radionoakmont7756 3 роки тому

    oh sweeeet the more doctor who the better you are thorough and find everything thats to the point and are truly concise you are the ebst and someone who goes to the extra trouble to find the absolute truth and facts about any subject one of the biggest reasons i subscribed long ago.

  • @peterpowis4145
    @peterpowis4145 6 років тому +8

    this is great! thanks. never knew much about Rassilon. so one question is, can all Gallifreyans regenerate or only Time Lords?

    • @katnerd-Glen
      @katnerd-Glen 5 років тому +2

      Only Time Lords. Though the origins of the difference between a typical Galifreyan and a Time Lord are in dispute. All the crap about "Looms" comes from a series of books that virtually everybody who has run the show since do not prescribe to. Thankfully, in my opinion as I think it's a rather bad and limiting story.

  • @TheGuardianofAzarath
    @TheGuardianofAzarath 5 років тому +1

    I never read any of the books or comics, and I only ever saw a few of the old John Pertwie and Tom Baker episodes, so i didn’t really know who Rassilon was until he showed up in that David Tennant episode with the Master.

  • @smokingstone1141
    @smokingstone1141 7 років тому +4

    Fascinating stuff, thanks.

  • @chrisboxsell4981
    @chrisboxsell4981 4 роки тому

    With the whole timeless child fiasco Rassilon was probably the doctor in a forgotten regeneration.

  • @finnstewart4747
    @finnstewart4747 7 років тому

    Being able to regenerate infinitely would be quite interesting, you'd probably forgot who you used to be after a while.

  • @georgiamoffat7337
    @georgiamoffat7337 2 роки тому +1

    If these guys, The Time Lords, are a Level 6 civilization, they would have already left their physical bodies in the dust. Unless they are keeping their bodies as a way of disciplined restraint. IDK. Seems when they are a multi-dimensional race (level 6) they would have left their physical bodies. But I would understand why they haven't already...What do you think?

  • @firetarrasque4667
    @firetarrasque4667 4 роки тому +1

    I eternally await the day that Omega emerges back into our reality and curbstomps Rassilon's head into the fucking pavement

  • @iona2225
    @iona2225 7 років тому +27

    Why not elaborate on the Ice warriors? I mean, with Daleks and Cybermen, ya know what to really expect from them, but with Ice warriors theyre like humans and time lords, theyre people they have good and bad people, and why not continue this shade of gray with this video of a specific time-lord by having a cultural index with these guys?

  • @houselemuellan8756
    @houselemuellan8756 26 днів тому

    Rassilon being the one timelord that actually goes by his normal name instead of a title says a lot about him probably

  • @speed24601
    @speed24601 7 років тому +4

    This is AMAZING! Can you please cite some sources? I want to know the direct sources of your info! Thanks for making this video!

  • @BornToPun7541
    @BornToPun7541 5 років тому +2

    Not directly related to this video, but I wonder why the "Doctor as a Hybrid" plot line just fell through. My theory is that the Doctor is (or was) "ME", meaning "Master and Emperor". Which would have driven Saxxon, Missy and Davros crazy.

  • @AkiraNasuki
    @AkiraNasuki 4 роки тому +2

    Tbh it wouldn't be far fetch if Tecteun is actually Rassilon with their name change.

    • @LETCHAOSREIGN666
      @LETCHAOSREIGN666 4 роки тому +1

      AkiraNasuki I’m pretty sure that Tecteun has been confirmed as the Other

    • @MrMinevision1
      @MrMinevision1 4 роки тому

      Tecteun is a made up random by an incompetent showrunner don't expect him to adhere to canan

  • @KyleWaaka
    @KyleWaaka 6 років тому

    great video man really enjoyed this

  • @jwilleseries7764
    @jwilleseries7764 5 років тому +3

    Damn, I felt bad for Rassilon for What the Doctor Did to him but knowing this I feel as Though he deserved it

  • @TheGamingRobin-cm8hs
    @TheGamingRobin-cm8hs 2 роки тому +1

    I've been watching doctor who for 10 years or so...
    so what you're telling me is that all this lore, all this knowledge from history was WIPED because someone wanted to do something different?
    *wtf man*

  • @turkeytrac1
    @turkeytrac1 Рік тому

    Definately need more dr who content. I'd like to see one on why the TARDIS chose the Dr as her companion.

  • @gubjorggisladottir3525
    @gubjorggisladottir3525 6 років тому

    I was writing elsewhere that it is possible that River Song will one day become "the first Doctor" i.e. that the Doctor is actually a future version of Melody Pond. Now I am wondering (as I have done before) that the doctor was "once upon a time" Rassilon and the Master one of his helpers... it is more likely that both the Doctor and The Master were Rassilon´s helpers that most think Rassilon killed..., but as he could not kill the non-kill-able i.e. immortals... they could have lost their memory or decide never to speak of that time.

  • @neptuneplaneptune3367
    @neptuneplaneptune3367 4 роки тому +1

    I assume that the hole regeneration thing screwed him up. After all awrey Regeneration has a new Personalaty with all the memories of the previous lifes. And ther is no denying that the Doctor is ahm...a tad insane. Same with the Master. A friend of mine once assumed that it is ther natural long lifespan and the regeneration that poeple like the Doctor start to become a little loony. All the memories mix up, the diffrent personalaties come together and woozle around in once mind. Now imagine how it is for Rasilon who probably led hundreds of lives. All the personalaties and memories conatntly at the back of his head. It probably drove him insane.

  • @scottmac2186
    @scottmac2186 7 років тому +11

    Very cool upload once again bud.Imma gonna share your work through family and friends and let it spread👌🏻👊🏻✋🏻😎

  • @grailchaser
    @grailchaser 4 роки тому +5

    Soooo.... is "Thremix" another name for Tecteun, now? ;)

    • @LETCHAOSREIGN666
      @LETCHAOSREIGN666 4 роки тому +1

      grailchaser I like to imagine that Thremix was the birth name but then change it to Tecteun when they figure out regeneration

  • @Thetoon25
    @Thetoon25 4 роки тому

    Just heard Chris chibnall says that Rassilon is in fact one of the astronauts from Planet of the Apes when their Space shuttle went missing.

  • @robertharrison2023
    @robertharrison2023 3 роки тому

    My high school had that book when I was in. It also talked about some of the tools used to fix it like a gab hammer the sonic screwdriver and some outher things

  • @guytremblay1647
    @guytremblay1647 5 років тому

    only one problem is thattimelords keep very few merories of who they were before when they regenerate and even the ones they regain take time to come back . Also each time a timelord regenerates he ends up with a totally different personnality then he had in the previous ones one could be pationate and as well as kind and sacrificing to others while others had no remors at doing irreversable things in order to win a crisis . one could be radical no matter the consquences while the other wouldn't risk nothing in order to keep the insignificant ones safe like what we saw with the 10th doctor ''David Tenant '' who simply would have prefered to die than to be responsable for someone dying and 11th doctor '' Matt Smith '' who would have sacrificed even his friends if the things needed to go to that point .
    A perfect exemple would be when Amy got stuck in on a planet where she spent years waiting before the doctor and Rory could come back to save her and they ended up with two Amys , a young one and an old one . The 11th doctor'' Matt Smith '' did not hesitate to get rid of the old Amy for the sake of time and reality to keep his present Amy while the 10th doctor ''David Tenant'' would have found a way to keep them both even if he knew that the logic told him that the old Amy had to go and wasn't supposed to remain even if it ment sacrificing himself to do so . The 10th didn,t want to go but would have if it ment saving others while the 11th did not under any reasons but only came to realisation that he had to eventually only at the end and only because he solved his greatest mistery of the impossible girl ''Clara Oswald that he met in so many timelines and shadowed him his entire lifetimes before

  • @Mosdra_Kazuma
    @Mosdra_Kazuma 4 роки тому +1

    you forgot to say the other he was around omega and Rassilon and he confronted him

  • @omegagamer4124
    @omegagamer4124 4 роки тому

    They forget that the doctor is the true immortal time lord with infinite regenerations and with his time in the matrix he would know the true history of galifrey and the doctor

  • @Alpha121198
    @Alpha121198 7 років тому

    I am not going to lie, I would love to see a video on the Doctor in this style.

  • @algiersc9957
    @algiersc9957 5 років тому

    I just found this channel and I love it

  • @papanoyoha
    @papanoyoha 4 місяці тому

    im sorry to pull you back to a old post, but I'm just catching up on some viewing, I'm looking for all episodes that feature this character bonus points for any episodes that are directly related to Gallifrey

  • @nrg2nd431
    @nrg2nd431 6 років тому +1

    They is a audio book about the origin of the time lords

  • @DanielAnnear
    @DanielAnnear 7 років тому

    An inspiring and interesting account of research! So cool to understand

  • @hestheMaster
    @hestheMaster 7 років тому +1

    A man I've always looked up to. He was taller than me.

  • @jackmccormick8382
    @jackmccormick8382 4 роки тому +3

    Chibnall: hold my beer

  • @Monni95
    @Monni95 4 роки тому

    Canon or not, only way to control singularity is strong magnetic field that counteracts the gravitational pull of the singularity... Basically you reverse the polarity of the electricity generated from the singularity itself and the difference from zero voltage is the net energy output. If you try to draw too much power from the singularity, the magnetic field might get unstable and the singularity will explode. A lot of Sci-Fi series share the basic principles as the fiction is loosely based on facts and already existing scientific research in real life.
    Harnessing singularity is a lot like harnessing a lightning, you get shitload of amperes, but only small amount of volts, as if the voltage increase too much, controlling the lightning (or singularity) becomes next to impossible. In real life, one would use huge capacitors to store the energy and then slowly discharge the energy from capacitors to batteries and finally to any devices that need electricity. The capacitors would also feed the magnetic field that keeps the lightning or singularity under control.

  • @jaidize1
    @jaidize1 7 років тому

    thx i ve learned new things,pls make more video's.After fifty year its sometimes difficult to keep up with the doctor's history.

  • @timidwolf
    @timidwolf 4 роки тому +1

    Converted into a cyberman, eh?

    • @FALLENV3GAS
      @FALLENV3GAS 4 роки тому

      Wasn't he kicked off the planet entirely? If so, it would be interesting to see him deal with having seen Gallifrey now destroyed and likely go on the war path.

  • @jonpertwee4208
    @jonpertwee4208 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome video.

  • @Backhand77
    @Backhand77 5 років тому

    I need waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more Doctor Who/Gallifreyan videos