I wasn't. Mustang is the pwr/weight ratio champ and has better power delivery. The Challenger is a pushrod engine so up-high it doesn't make as much power. The twin turbo setup would have the advantage initially because of near instantaneous torque, but eventually be beat by the mustangs top-end.
The Mustang won for me as soon as they did the revving at the start. And then it won the actual racing part. I think the Z is a tourer, and that’s about it. It does look really cool.
The Z strikes me as a car that was produced in order to have all the performance parts from the last generation swapped on. I mean, it's kind of in the talking points from Nissan that it's built on the old chassis.
I have a 2019 Bullitt, it has tad differently tuned exhaust for even more rumble and I can tell you that when I was on the fence about buying it, hearing the exhaust is what made me pull the trigger!
@@4JaayTv It's dependant on surface. A lot of the time the Camaro does better on unprepped surfaces. Not all the time, but most of the time, it tends to have better launches on Throttle House's surface. Granted all the time on prepped surfaces the Mustang will always pull on the Camaro.
Gotta love the mustang, it's an excellent value all around. I have a 20 GT 460 hp 420 tq, performance pack, 10 speed auto.. off road H-pipe and otherwise stock. She's pretty quick and loads of fun to drive. It's handling is under rated.
For what it's worth- I, a random guy on UA-cam, truly believe that you two were put on this Earth to do exactly what you're doing now. Automotive journalism and reviews. Your chemistry is fantastic. You're both humorous and charismatic. I genuinely enjoy watching all of your videos, regardless of topic. Thank you. -Jake
Man. The Mustang has to be one of the most consistent best sounding V8s around in my opinion. Ever since the fox body I’ve fell in love with themC firstly because of the sound. That 5.0 sounds amazing. But even the 4.6 new edge stangs sound awesome.
@@hawkshadowoseanacy5171 The Z was designed to conform to EU noise regulations as well I believe, where the car has to be driven flat out (on the accelerator pedal) at a certain speed past a microphone where they measure the noise level. I think that speed is like 60 or so mph, and with a manual they generally put it into second gear when they drive past the microphone. With an Auto they just leave the car in whatever mode it came to them in, so the manufacturer can tune the car to just short shift in comfort mode or whatnot. The result is that either manual cars have super long gears so their revs will be lower when the microphone is driven by, or that they space the gear ratios properly but instead have to put on an exhaust that makes it sound like nothing. This doesn't affect the Mustang and Dodge cars because they don't sell them in the EU anymore (or at all in Dodge's case).
Fbody owner (RIP FBODY 2002) I agree 100%. As I age I realize I was the stupid one for caring about how fast my LS1 was when the 4.6L guys got to ride around with the windows down listening to a damn symphony.
@@ryze9153bruh the mustang is 400+ pounds lighter than the challenger, the mustang does not move fast at all for how much it weighs unfortunately. I was expecting the mustang to pull so hard but nope
Just wanna say you guys have been the go to for car reviews on UA-cam for me ever since the LFA video. Absolutely sold you guys on me. Just wanted to show the love and keep up the awesome work!!
@@5point0h67 lol I don’t have the $20k plus to get a 2011+ Thought about a pushrod 5.0 instead, but I kind of need it to be my daily as well. And with a manual, the prices just go up
@@eclipsethesun251 I’m 29 and this 5.0 I have is the first v8 mustang I’ve ever had. I had a 2004 v6 mustang and a 2014 v6 mustang.. had to grind hard to finally get my 5.0 and you will too!
@@Bvsterrrrrrrrr Meh, honestly never a fan of those high screeching car sounds. I know it's personal preference, but like the low rumble of a V8 is like a lion roaring and the high screeching sound of the V10s and above are like goats screaming...
You guys are such a good group of guys. It honestly brings back the good Top Gear vibe for me. I've been watching you guys for a while and you guys always pump out amazing content! Great job as always guys!
Proud coyote owner watching this, worth pointing out it’s a pp1 mustang so it has the 3.73 rear end gear that helps with acceleration over a regular GT, and wider tires. Shoutout to Carsten(spelling?) for nailing the 2-3 shift on the awful mt82. If that z is still on the Bridgestones I’d imagine that has a lot to do with its handling woes. I want to see how they perform with some light mods… tires, tune, and some springs should really wake it up. Had a q60 (see profile pic) before my stang and with some Michelins and a tune it was a rocket ship
@@cosmic_gate476 hopefully, I’m concerned about the steering being numb. Thomas and James really didn’t like it in their review, and my q60 had the same problem…just no feedback from the front wheels, gives you no confidence in the corners. Still want to drive one myself though, once they hit the used market
The whole Nissan Bridgestone "Partnership" is garbage. I had those stupid bridgestoners on my Z for a grand total of: 6000 miles. I'm actually convinced that bald tires on a PRIUS handle better than those POS tires. I have owned a ton of cheap cars with cheap tires. I can only imagine the number of people first in line for the new Z that are going to end up with an unpleasant phone call and one big insurance claim when the thing is totalled. Those Bridgestone tires are a recipe for disaster. Nissan "should" have simply offered the OPTION for a PS4S rather than this terribly negotiated mindless contract with Bridgestone. FFS, maybe "offer" the option for the better bridgestones?
@@07wrxtr1 lol I'm one of those guys in line for the Z and it looks like by the time it arrives I'll be using winter tires and rims off the bat. I'll keep the Bridgestones as an extra set to practice tire shredding in the summer 😂
@@crucfx. Yeah, but I'm not excited about what the prices will be. It doesn't matter for me personally. My 2018 6 Speed Manual GT is slightly modded and makes about 500 hp and is paid off. I'm too old to go into debt for a car so I'm keeping what I have until it drops or I do. 😁
@@thullraven1 I still love my Challenger Scat pack widebody. It just looks so mean and sounds so evil. I love the looks of it and I personally don’t care if an Mustang GT is faster. I would never ever give my Challenger away for an Mustang. The Mustang is faster but the Challenger is cooler.
@@_carfreak_2812 I can't and won't argue with you. The Challenger, no matter what level, is one of the coolest looking cars on the road. I love how my Mustang looks, but the old school looks of Challengers rock. It's a travesty that Dodge is doing away with them.
@@thullraven1 Hey, I don’t want to argue 😂 Iam saying myself that an Mustang GT is faster. But you are right, it’s a shame that the end of the Challenger as we know it has come. Have fun with your Mustang, that 5.0 Liter V8 is an awesome engine. 😁
I feel like a lot of the audience is looking at this price point for their next car, love the relatable content. Genuinely helping me and I’m sure many others make an informed decision on which cars to look at! Would love to see more competition against this thing if y’all can get ahold of it again!
I have a scat pack and the main reason I got it over the others was purely the look, I mean it’s the closest to the original that it can be but yea the weight and just the platform/formula of the Challenger/charger is just old news but hey i still love my challenger very much
The 392 is no slouch with some drag radials.. Ive got a 12.2 on that track. Plenty of mustangs cant get that, the 5.0 was irrelevant until 2018 (stock for stock). That mustang is also a pp1 - with 3.73 gears. Id take the Scat anyday. Every dickhead driving around has a mustang. Go around the block theres like 15 of them within 10km radius lol. That 5.0s positive point is in the top end so. Plus the 392 in standard is no good - have to have to 8 speed auto to utilize its massive torque.
@@Bizzair1990 I stay in Atlanta and the 392 is definitely way more common than a 5.0. For every 20 cars I see, there’s AT LEAST 8 challengers/chargers in that mix. When they see me in my 5.0 they always try to rev or peel off fast like jackasses and damn near cause an accident. Much more of a jackass car if you ask me. The sound is definitely great, but I dust them almost every time
You need to see a camaro ss 1le! Best in everything compared to a mustang and cheaper too for its performance point. I owned a 15 gtpp and now own a 22 2ss 1le manual. 1le all day every day!
@@munkysex00 nope i owned both so i can tell you that Mustang interior had so many rattles that i removed and insulated the dashboard maybe 4 times. Knock on wood my camaro has no issues so far. The heads up display alone is worth it especially on the 1le.
@@al151 Sounds like your Mustang was a lemon. My 15 GT pp was tight as a drum when I sold it with 60K miles on it. I'm not a fan of the Camaro interior but the SS 1LE is most likely going to be my next car. It is very good car though it doesn't sound quite as good as the Mustang. Main attraction for me in the Camaro is the manual transmission which is superior to the MT82 in the Mustang.
(Edited) So true. I test drove a 2019 Bullitt last year and it was so much fun to drive. Sounded amazing and had the recaro racing seats they were super grippy. Still want one but they are selling too high around me at around $50,000-$55,000 so after my GTO sells hopefully this month I’ll be ordering a new mustang from ford. For the build I want it’s coming out to $43,000 straight from the factory. Can’t wait. Congrats on the Bullitt those are nice
@@crashnabors009 it’s not driver mod. Watch my videos. We did a roll and surprisingly the scat left it behind. Also it wasn’t my car so I didn’t shift it like I do my corvettes but I didn’t granny shift either
I have a 2019 Bullitt, it has tad differently tuned exhaust for even more rumble and I can tell you that when I was on the fence about buying it, hearing the exhaust is what made me pull the trigger!
@Rawkfist1501 Shouldve replied, Naturally aspirated V8 in general. My Tundra rumbles just as nice 😉. That "Z" would definitely be my 3rd choice out of them.
@@willdembik688 An old fashioned american v8 to me means pushrods, and a big cam. I am not going to say the mustang sounds bad, its just not a traditional american v8 sound
I'm maybe biased but those Mustangs are really really fast out of the box for the price and plenty of potentials. Really a good canvas and plenty of aftermarket parts at reasonable price for either convert it to a drag race monster, a track monster or a drift monster, only choose which path you wanna go. Great video!
I love dodge but I've been saying that since the 460 hp mustangs cane out the scatpack just barely loses they're very quick even more so with the 10 speeds
Mopar sell more currently but 23 is the last year for hemis and all the mopar guys will be switching to mustangs after 23. I may add a gt500 to my redeye and C8 Z06 will be here by spring. They can keep their ev stuff. You can't beat a GT for value and modding
In as much as I love to watch your show regularly, I have said this before. You should always give your viewers the benefits of a doubt by allowing each and every driver race different cars especially when drag racing in manual gears. This would allow the viewers to objectively decide what car is fastest because driving experiences and competence matters.
The driver in The challenger sucks at driving. I've raced mustang's in my challenger rt stock and I got the same results. The scat pack should've done better
@@aaronwarren8389 Right, only hosts his own channel about cars and races professionally but he can't drive a stock challenger lmao You apparently didn't race someone with driver mod.
Those nose dives on the Z in between shifts are a thing to behold. Honestly could & should be shifting 20x faster, literally as fast as a blink sir, bang!
@@jacksnackson3578 True, but most Zupras won't be pushed to their potential so a well-tuned Z can beat many of them. It's way easier to make a car faster than it is to make it look better, in my opinion. For me the Z is too damn pretty and I like the interior more even though it's cheaper, it just looks more interesting with the colors - plus it's more roomy and more visible in the cabin, I'm gonna daily my Z and so that does kinda matter lol
@@jacksnackson3578 You sound like those kids who think every supra has 1000hp lol vr30 can push 550 wheel with stock turbos and that's more than enough to beat the average Zupra driver. I like the Zupra btw not hating like you
Well, I am a Dodge fan and i can sure agree that the mustang is faster, it is lighter and the coyote engine is really good But still the challenger looks amazing, it has the real muscle car look Its a war between 2 brands that we fans are benifiting from, its bringing the best out of both and with time it will get better 👍
@@SRT_Ajax you’re probably right, only reason I point out for the fatass Challenger that’s already at a weight disadvantage. Ultimately, I would have bet on Mustang in both runs on street, the platform is just too good all around.
Yes. My Dad has an old '94 5.0 that was always a turd - so that is how I have viewed Mustang GTs ever since. He now also has a new one with the premium package and 10spd. That thing freaking RIPS - holy shit. I couldn't believe it. The '94 came with 215hp, the new one has 480 I think.
Love the content boys... Ever thought of a "Value drag" race... For example, replicating this race with predecessor models, and put a limit on the purchase price of 25% current MSRP... Might be a great way of finding some gems for your budget minded viewers, a.k.a., all of us 'po folk...
I'd like to see a race between a 1994 Camaro, first year SN95 Mustang, stock Mk4 Supra, stock 300Z, and a Trans Am. Or go a little older with a stock Fox Body
@@franciscodanconia4324 Mk. 4 is in front, 300ZX is in second, followed closely by the SN95, and the F-Bodies didn't stand a chance until they got the LS1 in '98.
Can I make a suggestion? I think it would be most beneficial to run these cars with the automatic transmissions. Yes I know you guys can obviously drive very well but I think automatic really just puts out the most for what the brand has to say in terms of racing. As everyone says, you can’t out shift a computer.
Better hurry, S650 (7th gen debuting in 2 weeks) is rumored to be the last V8, hopefully not tho. I got a '19 Bullitt, awesome daily. I'm sure some S550 Mustangs will be left over on the lots once new one comes out and might be a good way to pick one up cheap, altho these days what is even cheap or "car in stock?"
@@soontaru I think the 4.6 sounded better imo, the 5.0 is just a little to high pitch for my liking. While I loved how crazy my 5.0 sounded, I think my LT1 sounds much better. Then again I love the old school V8 sounds, so it makes sense!
11k cheaper and capable of up to 1200whp and 7 in the 1/4 mile with just boost and fuel. No heads no cams no pistons no rods no opening the engine unless you want to go built motor which then mustang gt can make 2000hp on stock factory block. Honestly mustang gt makes hellcats look slow with just bolt oms everyday at the track.
@@anthonyh2540 The mustang is cheaper and way more aftermarket parts available than the Camaro. Doesn't take much money to make the mustang blow the doors off of the Camaro. Stock camaro 0-60 4.1secs. Stock mustang gt auto 0-60 3.9 secs.
@@robertdaone When my Camaro LT1 was stock i raced my buddys stock 10r80 and beat him by 2 cars and kept walking him all the way, i’m sorry buddy but you’re beloved 5.0 is not faster stock for stock than the Camaro LT1. Also the camaro is the cheaper cost per hp need i say it again?
@@robertdaone it cost way more money to make a mustang faster than a chevy, for instance you guys have four fucking cams while i have one to worry about😂
Umm, just ONE more thing 🤔.. LoL.. Close only counts in, Horseshoes, hand grenades, and nuclear blasts, LOL. The Stang is a fearsome foe..🐎 Great video!👍
Only delusional mopar fans say otherwise. Despite losing 10hp that scatcrap was choking the coyote’s dust. I was even skeptical because of the MT82 6 spd garbage manual. The 10spd vs 8spd is the more interesting battle.
I have a 2019 Bullitt, which is the "Bullettized" version of the vehicle in the video, with similar performance bits and 480hp engine. The exhaust is tuned for even more rumble and it sounds amazing. I love my cold starts in the garage. When I was on the fence about buying it, the sound of the exhaust is what really made me pull the trigger. I guess we're all kids deep inside our hearts. :) Have been blessed to have this as a daily, it's fantastic.
The GT is a faster car than a scatpack it’s got a better 0-60 and 1/4 mile. People think Challengers and Chargers are so fast because they’re a trend for young kids and rappers.
@@luigiwachindo1860 fuck you talking about? The older ones didnt like mods N/A V6s. This is a twin turbo V6 from the Q50/Q60 proven to love mods. Easily reaches 550+ WHP with bolt ons.
Dodge owner, It’s way too heavy to compete with the Z and 5.0 top end. But if I were to trade in my SP I’d definitely get a Z. That little guy looks fun as hell to drive! Good races guys.
@@Elian_Zed i know im saying if all 3 where automatic which would truly prove whos the fastest the z would of lost against the scat but the mustang would of still won
@@TheBreakfastLover The Z absolutely destroy the Supra on the track and have way more *tuning potential.* Even tho the B58 in thz MK5 from BMW is insane and is like the "new 2JZ", that new TTV6 from Nissan have more potential like always (just look at the Infinity with the same engine, now imagine in thz Z which is way lighter.) Just look at the GT-R, not even extremely tuned Porsches can do a thing against GT-Rs when tuned.
@@RiasGremoryS54 first off the Z didnt destory anything. 2nd its not a "new twin turbo v6", its the same v6 thats been in infinitis since 2016. 3rd the z doesnt have more potential than the b58, especially when you consider the supra is built from factory with forged internals that can hold 1000hp. mated to a better automatic transmisson on top of that. you have no idea what the fuck youre talking about
Main reason I bought my mustang was just the sound tbh 😩 I can never get enough of that coyote 5.0. Side note, mustang gets it power past 4k RPM’s so after that you get a plenty of torque
I really appreciate you guys releasing these drag race vids on Sunday mornings. Reminds me of watching Power Block shows when I was a kid. Except you guys aren't 50% ads 😄
@@Renaissance_Engineer nope its the difference between a BIG V8 vs a TINY V6TT the turbines can only add so much and the software clearly isn't up to spec but even if it was top end is mustang all day and down low its the Scat.
@@ywe3 LMAO... " turbines can add only so much" ...... What? That's the most generic statement ever. Turbos can add 1000's of HP depending on the build. Good lord.
Karston's ultra focus adds 20hp to whatever car he drives. 👍👍
Dude can drive that's for sure.
How about torque??
Lol
He also isn’t hosting a video so he gets to purely focus and not worry about saying a word!!
It’s the first time I’ve seen Karston That focused as well
Thomas: “Omg that was a close race”
James: “Yeah very interesting”
Guy in the mustang: 🗿
The guy's name is Carsten FYI.
Stone face!! 🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣
LMAO 🤣🤣🤣
Dead on!!
Can't beat the sound of those V-8's
The scat sounded good then it switched to the stang at high rpm, 😩sounds amazing
V12s sound better
FR, my speakers weren't turned up, I didn't know that Z was running when they were revving the cars, lol.
Z is v6
@@MPG-xw8opWe know
Every time a guy says his name is Thomas I’m compelled to say mine is James
😂😂😂
That’s funny every time I hear, I’m Thomas, and I’m James I think why haven’t they done a Thomas the tank engine bit yet….to on the head? Hmmm
Same here mah boy
Hi guys I'm Shmee 😉👍🏼
Yup!
The drag race i totally expected. But the rolling race surprised me
i was sitting here thinking thomas is about to walk these dudes, boy have i ever been so wrong in my life
About what I expected the stock tires on the Z are pretty underwhelming.
But in terms of power to weight they are right there with each other.
Considering the Z has a twin-turbo set up, i wasnt surprised on the roll
I wasn't. Mustang is the pwr/weight ratio champ and has better power delivery. The Challenger is a pushrod engine so up-high it doesn't make as much power. The twin turbo setup would have the advantage initially because of near instantaneous torque, but eventually be beat by the mustangs top-end.
I feel he was kinda slow on the no lift shift in the Z. Maybe it just had long throws? 🤷🏻♂️
The Mustang GT is simply amazing holy cow what a sound!
Custom exhaust
@@ALana-wy5ql its stock active exhaust
@@ALana-wy5ql i have a 16 GT and it sounds almost the same lmao thats a stock exhaust yall hate to hate lmaoooo
My brother has one and honestly it sound so badass for being stock he says he wouldn’t change it
@@Marie00178 honestly same i dont want to make it obnoxiously loud or take away from the stock rumble
The Mustang won for me as soon as they did the revving at the start. And then it won the actual racing part. I think the Z is a tourer, and that’s about it. It does look really cool.
The Z strikes me as a car that was produced in order to have all the performance parts from the last generation swapped on. I mean, it's kind of in the talking points from Nissan that it's built on the old chassis.
Mustang is Grand Tourer. The Z has bad gearing for drag racing and needs better tires
@@Mis73rRand0m yeah, that’s a good point. I would call that a mistake but the aftermarket is probably pretty happy.
@@bismarkT I think it’s fair to call the Mustang a tourer as well, though the performance pack makes it pretty capable on track as well.
@@joelpeterson2074 nah man the challenger is with all that space and amazing magnetic ride
I'm convinced after watching a bunch of your videos that Karston is just the best racer of the group no matter what u put him in he goes hard
That was my takeaway as well. Just smoother and quicker on the shifts.
I love this channel, but I really wish we could get the drivers to go a round in each car to take out driver bias
Impressive Mustang Gt! That engine roar is Music to The hears too🤙🏽
Damn the sound of that Mustang is SWEET 👌
I have a 2019 Bullitt, it has tad differently tuned exhaust for even more rumble and I can tell you that when I was on the fence about buying it, hearing the exhaust is what made me pull the trigger!
Agreed. I think it might be the best sounding car ever made. This from a guy who has a c7 ZO6.
They sound like garbage to me.
@@roostafish961 who? Seems odd for me.
@@richardnavratil9661 I have an 08 Bullitt and people are shocked when I tell them the exhaust is stock.
Great races. I would love to see the Camaro and Supra thrown in.
True would of rather a camaro than a challenger
Camaro would won by small margin with mustang, supra would by last by far.
SS doesn’t beat the GT
@@wykydytron wrong. Supra matches a Mach 1 lmao.
@@4JaayTv
It's dependant on surface. A lot of the time the Camaro does better on unprepped surfaces. Not all the time, but most of the time, it tends to have better launches on Throttle House's surface. Granted all the time on prepped surfaces the Mustang will always pull on the Camaro.
Gotta love the mustang, it's an excellent value all around. I have a 20 GT 460 hp 420 tq, performance pack, 10 speed auto.. off road H-pipe and otherwise stock. She's pretty quick and loads of fun to drive. It's handling is under rated.
For what it's worth- I, a random guy on UA-cam, truly believe that you two were put on this Earth to do exactly what you're doing now. Automotive journalism and reviews. Your chemistry is fantastic. You're both humorous and charismatic. I genuinely enjoy watching all of your videos, regardless of topic. Thank you. -Jake
Man. The Mustang has to be one of the most consistent best sounding V8s around in my opinion. Ever since the fox body I’ve fell in love with themC firstly because of the sound. That 5.0 sounds amazing. But even the 4.6 new edge stangs sound awesome.
Did the Z make any sound outside? Even the 6 cylinder mustang sound better than most cars.
As a Chevy guy at heart, I agree 100%.
@@hawkshadowoseanacy5171 The Z was designed to conform to EU noise regulations as well I believe, where the car has to be driven flat out (on the accelerator pedal) at a certain speed past a microphone where they measure the noise level. I think that speed is like 60 or so mph, and with a manual they generally put it into second gear when they drive past the microphone. With an Auto they just leave the car in whatever mode it came to them in, so the manufacturer can tune the car to just short shift in comfort mode or whatnot. The result is that either manual cars have super long gears so their revs will be lower when the microphone is driven by, or that they space the gear ratios properly but instead have to put on an exhaust that makes it sound like nothing. This doesn't affect the Mustang and Dodge cars because they don't sell them in the EU anymore (or at all in Dodge's case).
Fbody owner (RIP FBODY 2002) I agree 100%. As I age I realize I was the stupid one for caring about how fast my LS1 was when the 4.6L guys got to ride around with the windows down listening to a damn symphony.
I actually think the 4.6 sounds better, but of course 5.0 blows it out the water performance wise
I have a 392 but not gonna lie those 5.0 always sound nice, light car combined with snappy powerful v8
those dodges are not efficient performers lol
@@ryze9153 let’s get real a 4500 pound rwd 500 hp car ain’t made for speed especially not on a prepped surface
@@JakehubJ lol you're right. I was just making a statement. Nothing against Dodge really, they're just not racers and that's totally fine
@@ryze9153 100% agreed that’s what makes em a muscle car
@@ryze9153bruh the mustang is 400+ pounds lighter than the challenger, the mustang does not move fast at all for how much it weighs unfortunately. I was expecting the mustang to pull so hard but nope
Just wanna say you guys have been the go to for car reviews on UA-cam for me ever since the LFA video. Absolutely sold you guys on me. Just wanted to show the love and keep up the awesome work!!
I was just about to write the same sort of comment...Ha !!
Fr the other channel just reviews the sun shade LMAO
These two are pretty hilarious.
This has been the most interesting and close drag and roll race you've done, superb pairings! The mustang also sounds amazing dayum.
2nd gear shift in the Z was terrible lol might be the lowest shift I've ever seen.
This video has only increased my already insane desire for a mustang gt, particularly that wonderful 5.0
Omg tell me about it!
Do it!!!
@@5point0h67 lol I don’t have the $20k plus to get a 2011+
Thought about a pushrod 5.0 instead, but I kind of need it to be my daily as well. And with a manual, the prices just go up
@@eclipsethesun251 I’m 29 and this 5.0 I have is the first v8 mustang I’ve ever had. I had a 2004 v6 mustang and a 2014 v6 mustang.. had to grind hard to finally get my 5.0 and you will too!
You better buy one before they stop making that glorious V8
That Mustang GT's exhaust notes 🎶🎵 are the most beautiful sounds I've ever heard! 💕🥰😘
I'm a GM guy and I think so too. Lol.
LEXUS LFA
If you like that, go watch some videos of GT40s, their sound is out of this world...
@@Bvsterrrrrrrrr Meh, honestly never a fan of those high screeching car sounds. I know it's personal preference, but like the low rumble of a V8 is like a lion roaring and the high screeching sound of the V10s and above are like goats screaming...
its all personal preference. for me the 5.0 is at the lower end of the V8 tier list. 4.9 "5.0" sounded far better
I love it. Guy in the scat pack..." what? what??".....and listen to that coyote absolutely howl.
“…and there is a Z in this race, and I’m not sure why.” - Thomas 😂
That Mustang is something else and it sounds fantastic 👍🏻🏴
That 5.0 is the freaking best. Love mine in my f150. Sadly im trading it for a f250 though... I need a heavier truck
You guys are such a good group of guys. It honestly brings back the good Top Gear vibe for me. I've been watching you guys for a while and you guys always pump out amazing content! Great job as always guys!
Proud coyote owner watching this, worth pointing out it’s a pp1 mustang so it has the 3.73 rear end gear that helps with acceleration over a regular GT, and wider tires. Shoutout to Carsten(spelling?) for nailing the 2-3 shift on the awful mt82. If that z is still on the Bridgestones I’d imagine that has a lot to do with its handling woes. I want to see how they perform with some light mods… tires, tune, and some springs should really wake it up. Had a q60 (see profile pic) before my stang and with some Michelins and a tune it was a rocket ship
Yeah the Z's performance faults are annoying but nothing that would need tons of money to change
@@cosmic_gate476 hopefully, I’m concerned about the steering being numb. Thomas and James really didn’t like it in their review, and my q60 had the same problem…just no feedback from the front wheels, gives you no confidence in the corners. Still want to drive one myself though, once they hit the used market
The whole Nissan Bridgestone "Partnership" is garbage. I had those stupid bridgestoners on my Z for a grand total of: 6000 miles. I'm actually convinced that bald tires on a PRIUS handle better than those POS tires. I have owned a ton of cheap cars with cheap tires. I can only imagine the number of people first in line for the new Z that are going to end up with an unpleasant phone call and one big insurance claim when the thing is totalled. Those Bridgestone tires are a recipe for disaster. Nissan "should" have simply offered the OPTION for a PS4S rather than this terribly negotiated mindless contract with Bridgestone. FFS, maybe "offer" the option for the better bridgestones?
@@07wrxtr1 lol I'm one of those guys in line for the Z and it looks like by the time it arrives I'll be using winter tires and rims off the bat. I'll keep the Bridgestones as an extra set to practice tire shredding in the summer 😂
@@Zanthin8 This is exactly why I went for a G37 over a Q50. Didn't like the steering feel on the new models since they went electric.
Every time I raced a Scat, that's how it went down. The Scat has awesome low end torque, but I always caught and passed them.
Makes me even more excited about the new upcoming 2024 s650 with 486 hp
@@crucfx. Yeah, but I'm not excited about what the prices will be. It doesn't matter for me personally. My 2018 6 Speed Manual GT is slightly modded and makes about 500 hp and is paid off. I'm too old to go into debt for a car so I'm keeping what I have until it drops or I do. 😁
@@thullraven1 I still love my Challenger Scat pack widebody. It just looks so mean and sounds so evil. I love the looks of it and I personally don’t care if an Mustang GT is faster. I would never ever give my Challenger away for an Mustang. The Mustang is faster but the Challenger is cooler.
@@_carfreak_2812 I can't and won't argue with you. The Challenger, no matter what level, is one of the coolest looking cars on the road. I love how my Mustang looks, but the old school looks of Challengers rock. It's a travesty that Dodge is doing away with them.
@@thullraven1 Hey, I don’t want to argue 😂 Iam saying myself that an Mustang GT is faster. But you are right, it’s a shame that the end of the Challenger as we know it has come. Have fun with your Mustang, that 5.0 Liter V8 is an awesome engine. 😁
I feel like a lot of the audience is looking at this price point for their next car, love the relatable content. Genuinely helping me and I’m sure many others make an informed decision on which cars to look at! Would love to see more competition against this thing if y’all can get ahold of it again!
I have a scat pack and the main reason I got it over the others was purely the look, I mean it’s the closest to the original that it can be but yea the weight and just the platform/formula of the Challenger/charger is just old news but hey i still love my challenger very much
I am still dreaming a black 392 widebody with the Shaker package, congrats on your beauty, take good care of her
Love my 17 Coyote but them Hemi exhausts always turn heads!👍🏿
The Challenger is really a NICE looking car. I really thought about it, and drive it, over getting my 19 Mustang.
The 392 is no slouch with some drag radials.. Ive got a 12.2 on that track. Plenty of mustangs cant get that, the 5.0 was irrelevant until 2018 (stock for stock). That mustang is also a pp1 - with 3.73 gears. Id take the Scat anyday. Every dickhead driving around has a mustang. Go around the block theres like 15 of them within 10km radius lol. That 5.0s positive point is in the top end so. Plus the 392 in standard is no good - have to have to 8 speed auto to utilize its massive torque.
@@Bizzair1990 I stay in Atlanta and the 392 is definitely way more common than a 5.0. For every 20 cars I see, there’s AT LEAST 8 challengers/chargers in that mix. When they see me in my 5.0 they always try to rev or peel off fast like jackasses and damn near cause an accident. Much more of a jackass car if you ask me. The sound is definitely great, but I dust them almost every time
3rd gear on the pp1 GT is so good, it just finds its legs. All great cars.
Watching this all the way from Namibia 🇳🇦 (Africa)
Mustang price to performance ratio is very good!
If you can get past the rental car interior. For everyone else, there's the GT Premium.
You need to see a camaro ss 1le! Best in everything compared to a mustang and cheaper too for its performance point. I owned a 15 gtpp and now own a 22 2ss 1le manual. 1le all day every day!
@@al151 the Camaro interior is shit, just like most gm interiors.
@@munkysex00 nope i owned both so i can tell you that Mustang interior had so many rattles that i removed and insulated the dashboard maybe 4 times. Knock on wood my camaro has no issues so far. The heads up display alone is worth it especially on the 1le.
@@al151 Sounds like your Mustang was a lemon. My 15 GT pp was tight as a drum when I sold it with 60K miles on it. I'm not a fan of the Camaro interior but the SS 1LE is most likely going to be my next car. It is very good car though it doesn't sound quite as good as the Mustang. Main attraction for me in the Camaro is the manual transmission which is superior to the MT82 in the Mustang.
Z's driver was the biggest takeaway for me. Great video as always 👌🏾
That Mustang just sounds SO good!
Ford motors always sound the best always have
As an owner of S550 Mustang (Bullitt), they got so much right with this gen. Hopefully the 7th gen fills the big shoes 6th leaves behind
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So true. I test drove a 2019 Bullitt last year and it was so much fun to drive. Sounded amazing and had the recaro racing seats they were super grippy. Still want one but they are selling too high around me at around $50,000-$55,000 so after my GTO sells hopefully this month I’ll be ordering a new mustang from ford. For the build I want it’s coming out to $43,000 straight from the factory. Can’t wait. Congrats on the Bullitt those are nice
Completely agree with you. I personally think its the best Mustang that Ford has ever produced. I even special ordered one to get it the way I wanted.
Love my 2019 performance pack race red GT headers active exhaust 93 Lund tune. Fun car
I drove a bullet, was fun to drive, but I saw stock scatpack taillights, and he pulled hard
@@crashnabors009 it’s not driver mod. Watch my videos. We did a roll and surprisingly the scat left it behind. Also it wasn’t my car so I didn’t shift it like I do my corvettes but I didn’t granny shift either
That was so cool being able to watch a Z capture the race between a mustang and a challenger! 😂
God, the exhaust tone of a good ol fashioned naturally aspirated American V8.. Schwing :)
Yeah hard to argue with a v8 sound track, Nissan sadly chose to not include a louder exhaust out of the box.
I have a 2019 Bullitt, it has tad differently tuned exhaust for even more rumble and I can tell you that when I was on the fence about buying it, hearing the exhaust is what made me pull the trigger!
@Rawkfist1501 Shouldve replied, Naturally aspirated V8 in general. My Tundra rumbles just as nice 😉. That "Z" would definitely be my 3rd choice out of them.
@@willdembik688 An old fashioned american v8 to me means pushrods, and a big cam. I am not going to say the mustang sounds bad, its just not a traditional american v8 sound
@@horvathr95 very true.. someone give these fellas a 70 Chevelle SS454 to play with for the day :)
When you consider the price the Mustang is a no brainer in this comparison.
shhhhh, don't tell Ford that they'll raise the price $7,500 like they just did half their vehicles
@@enacku Then It would be around the price of the Scat, so still a no brainer for me
@Paul Eww no. I’d honestly rather have the GR86 over the BMW Supra
The race went exactly how i pictured it😂 everyone knows a stock scat pack looses to a stock 5.0😂
Mopar or no car😂
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Ford literally waits for dodge to roll their car out, buys the dodge, and builds their car around it to be faster.
Mustangs are for women and men who sit down to urinate.
only 10 speeds so if it ain a s5 just leave
I'm maybe biased but those Mustangs are really really fast out of the box for the price and plenty of potentials. Really a good canvas and plenty of aftermarket parts at reasonable price for either convert it to a drag race monster, a track monster or a drift monster, only choose which path you wanna go. Great video!
I'm a Mopar guy but the Mustang is no joke, seriously great car.
I love dodge but I've been saying that since the 460 hp mustangs cane out the scatpack just barely loses they're very quick even more so with the 10 speeds
That mustang is seriously becoming a dream car of mine. The sound of that Coyote V8 is intoxicating
base GT mustang and LT1 Camaro are just INSANE value cars. Nothing else even comes close for the price.
Mopar sell more currently but 23 is the last year for hemis and all the mopar guys will be switching to mustangs after 23. I may add a gt500 to my redeye and C8 Z06 will be here by spring. They can keep their ev stuff. You can't beat a GT for value and modding
Man the Mustang is such a good car I love it
Especially that drive bro a W
No joke there mine makes me smile every time I drive it!! She growls like a dragon!!
Until you crash into a crowed
as a 2018 mustang GT owner this video makes me happy
No lift shifting “should give me a leg up”. LOL!
In as much as I love to watch your show regularly, I have said this before. You should always give your viewers the benefits of a doubt by allowing each and every driver race different cars especially when drag racing in manual gears. This would allow the viewers to objectively decide what car is fastest because driving experiences and competence matters.
How is this the first time ever I’m hearing about a no lift shift? Had no idea that was a thing, sounds awesome
MUSTANG FTW 😘
Always impressed by the performance of the mustang, its one of my favorite cars. Its just too bad its almost impossible to import into my country.
and it looks like a euro womans car
@@The_Draque What even in the world are you talking about???
Even if you could import it, export plus import taxes makes you desist on it.
@@The_Draque still sad the challenger lost?
@@CrashRacknShoot a stock scat is faster than a stock GT lol.
The 5.0 has the best sound ever
Not even close lol! V10 Lambo for starters 😅
I love how you guys do both drag and roll racing. These videos are my favorite...keep them coming!
I love how James said "Poo" Pack. Lmao 🤣
Shout out to Karston in the mustang he really knows what he’s doing, and gives me Han vibes from fast and furious
Lesson of the day: Go get a Mustang GT!!! 😅
Lesson of the day, it all comes down to the driver..
The driver in The challenger sucks at driving. I've raced mustang's in my challenger rt stock and I got the same results. The scat pack should've done better
@@aaronwarren8389 Right, only hosts his own channel about cars and races professionally but he can't drive a stock challenger lmao
You apparently didn't race someone with driver mod.
Mustang 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👍🏿
@@aaronwarren8389 the Mustang is still going to win regardless their less heavier than the Mopars coming from who owns a Scat
Those nose dives on the Z in between shifts are a thing to behold. Honestly could & should be shifting 20x faster, literally as fast as a blink sir, bang!
I think the Z will be a monster once tuners get ahold of them
Will still be slower than the BMW Zupra
@@jacksnackson3578 True, but most Zupras won't be pushed to their potential so a well-tuned Z can beat many of them. It's way easier to make a car faster than it is to make it look better, in my opinion. For me the Z is too damn pretty and I like the interior more even though it's cheaper, it just looks more interesting with the colors - plus it's more roomy and more visible in the cabin, I'm gonna daily my Z and so that does kinda matter lol
It’s pretty much a VQ50 or 60
@@cosmic_gate476 FALSE. Nissan failed the people. Zurpra is a better chassis and better motor. The Nissan 380 Z in new skin is a flop.
@@jacksnackson3578 You sound like those kids who think every supra has 1000hp lol vr30 can push 550 wheel with stock turbos and that's more than enough to beat the average Zupra driver. I like the Zupra btw not hating like you
Well, I am a Dodge fan and i can sure agree that the mustang is faster, it is lighter and the coyote engine is really good
But still the challenger looks amazing, it has the real muscle car look
Its a war between 2 brands that we fans are benifiting from, its bringing the best out of both and with time it will get better 👍
8 speed vs 8 speed the 392 wins the manual 392s are wayyyy too slow they do like 12.7 1/4. Meanwhile my scat did 12.2 @ 117
It’s actually torturous to watch these guys not down shift the Scat at roll.
@@vincealince_SRT I don’t think any of them down shifted? I could be wrong.
@@SRT_Ajax you’re probably right, only reason I point out for the fatass Challenger that’s already at a weight disadvantage. Ultimately, I would have bet on Mustang in both runs on street, the platform is just too good all around.
Well until 2024, then we’re losing the challenger, charger and Camaro but man it’s been an amazing decade for muscle cars
Mustang sounds the best!
guy in the mustang was LOCKED IN FOCUS
And its been proven the 10speed mustang is way faster than the manual
Yes. My Dad has an old '94 5.0 that was always a turd - so that is how I have viewed Mustang GTs ever since. He now also has a new one with the premium package and 10spd. That thing freaking RIPS - holy shit. I couldn't believe it. The '94 came with 215hp, the new one has 480 I think.
Love the content boys... Ever thought of a "Value drag" race... For example, replicating this race with predecessor models, and put a limit on the purchase price of 25% current MSRP... Might be a great way of finding some gems for your budget minded viewers, a.k.a., all of us 'po folk...
Don't you mean 25% above MSRP? Used cars cost more than new ones now, somehow.
@@cyberspectre8675 lol, I came here to respond with the same thing. 25% MSRP doesn't even get you a 350Z
75 % of MSRP maybe?
I'd like to see a race between a 1994 Camaro, first year SN95 Mustang, stock Mk4 Supra, stock 300Z, and a Trans Am. Or go a little older with a stock Fox Body
@@franciscodanconia4324 Mk. 4 is in front, 300ZX is in second, followed closely by the SN95, and the F-Bodies didn't stand a chance until they got the LS1 in '98.
Can I make a suggestion? I think it would be most beneficial to run these cars with the automatic transmissions. Yes I know you guys can obviously drive very well but I think automatic really just puts out the most for what the brand has to say in terms of racing. As everyone says, you can’t out shift a computer.
As a Dodge fan. I gotta say the gt exhaust sounds very good. May have to pick up one in the future
Meh, if you think the mustang sounds good, get a Chevy lol. I’ve had a few mustangs and the LS always sounds better than a 5.0 imo.
As a Mustang guy, I think the Hemi sounds great at low rpms, but a 5.0 (or a 4.6) revving out always sends me
Better hurry, S650 (7th gen debuting in 2 weeks) is rumored to be the last V8, hopefully not tho. I got a '19 Bullitt, awesome daily. I'm sure some S550 Mustangs will be left over on the lots once new one comes out and might be a good way to pick one up cheap, altho these days what is even cheap or "car in stock?"
@@richardnavratil9661 I jumped ship actually, got a 22 camaro! Long live V8’s! Never sell and enjoy your stang while we can 😢
@@soontaru I think the 4.6 sounded better imo, the 5.0 is just a little to high pitch for my liking. While I loved how crazy my 5.0 sounded, I think my LT1 sounds much better. Then again I love the old school V8 sounds, so it makes sense!
To be honest, all Three cars are incredible machines
Top end Coyote 🐺 V8 power is just something else.
11k cheaper and capable of up to 1200whp and 7 in the 1/4 mile with just boost and fuel. No heads no cams no pistons no rods no opening the engine unless you want to go built motor which then mustang gt can make 2000hp on stock factory block. Honestly mustang gt makes hellcats look slow with just bolt oms everyday at the track.
But what about the MT82
Love the content
“Im not far behind” *gets gap by a bus*😂
Love your videos
That coyote took off! The Mustang GT is the best bang for the buck you can get.
Nope the camaro lt1 is the best bang for the buck muscle car you can get and also its faster
@@anthonyh2540 The mustang is cheaper and way more aftermarket parts available than the Camaro. Doesn't take much money to make the mustang blow the doors off of the Camaro. Stock camaro 0-60 4.1secs. Stock mustang gt auto 0-60 3.9 secs.
@@robertdaone When my Camaro LT1 was stock i raced my buddys stock 10r80 and beat him by 2 cars and kept walking him all the way, i’m sorry buddy but you’re beloved 5.0 is not faster stock for stock than the Camaro LT1. Also the camaro is the cheaper cost per hp need i say it again?
@@robertdaone it cost way more money to make a mustang faster than a chevy, for instance you guys have four fucking cams while i have one to worry about😂
@@robertdaone if you have enough money you can make any camaro faster than any mustang vice versa
Got a 22 GT weeks ago and I’m just so happy with how it sound stock and the performance is really satisfying😊😊
Damn, I had no clue the Mustang GT was such a good value.
It's with the performance pack (~$5,000), but still cheaper than the other 2 for sure
The whole point of American performance cars is to be a good value lol
That's why every guy, gal, and grandma has one out here.
Best performance bang for your buck out there... Throw a power adder into the mix and you'll really start hurting some feelings.
@@ronsmith4325 not the best, but one of them!
Give Karston a speaking role !!
No speak, Just speed
Thomas is like What!! What!!! What!! On a roll ☠️😂☠️😂
The new coyotes are not to be messed with!!
The 10 speed with Intake, tune, and exhaust. Is faster then a 6.2 supercharged hellcat
@@Alumnikiid weight, it matters. maybe one day dodge will understand that and stop using a 30 year old platform with band-aid on it.
@@Alumnikiid No its not lmaooooo my guy has one and thought the same and a hellcat walked his ass🤣
I walked hellcats with mine i got videos to
@@moussadiallo6241 "'This channel has no videos"
The 10 speed mustang is a whole different animal
Umm, just ONE more thing 🤔.. LoL.. Close only counts in, Horseshoes, hand grenades, and nuclear blasts, LOL. The Stang is a fearsome foe..🐎 Great video!👍
Well I guess the mustang and challenger debate is finally over about which one is faster
Only delusional mopar fans say otherwise. Despite losing 10hp that scatcrap was choking the coyote’s dust. I was even skeptical because of the MT82 6 spd garbage manual. The 10spd vs 8spd is the more interesting battle.
@@voodoodiecast dont the new gts have a tremec ?
This has been the result for the past 4 years between them though
@@voodoodiecast only the Mach 1's have the tremec; the regular 5.0 still has the same manual it's always had.
@@voodoodiecast fr and the mustang sounds better+handles better, so the only reason someone would be one would be the looks?
Wow that Mustang sounded amazing! Sounded so close to the Steve McQueen Bullit Mustang
I have a 2019 Bullitt, which is the "Bullettized" version of the vehicle in the video, with similar performance bits and 480hp engine. The exhaust is tuned for even more rumble and it sounds amazing. I love my cold starts in the garage. When I was on the fence about buying it, the sound of the exhaust is what really made me pull the trigger. I guess we're all kids deep inside our hearts. :)
Have been blessed to have this as a daily, it's fantastic.
The best part of the video is @ 6:37. 😂
Great job Mustang driver. 👍
Not gonna lie, being a GT vs a Scat Pack. I wasn't expecting those results. KARSTON FOR THE WIN!
The GT is a faster car than a scatpack it’s got a better 0-60 and 1/4 mile. People think Challengers and Chargers are so fast because they’re a trend for young kids and rappers.
The Gt it's just a beauty v8 5.0 coyote.
If you’re not first, you’re last.
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So cool to see a drag race with all manuals. It’s rare to see people actually focusing after the launch
Suprised by the Z's roll race. Its the cheapest car to get more power out of. Its gunna turn into a monster with only 2-3k in mods
Weight... Always weight. 🤟
No sir it isnt because unlike the older models it doesnt like mods. Now the mustang on the other hand has a huge performance after market set ups
@@luigiwachindo1860 i think that a tune and e85 these cars almost gain 100hp
@@luigiwachindo1860 fuck you talking about? The older ones didnt like mods N/A V6s. This is a twin turbo V6 from the Q50/Q60 proven to love mods. Easily reaches 550+ WHP with bolt ons.
@@ets419 lmaoooo used to have a G37 i feel your struggle. Have a Q50 now.
This is why I bought a mustang when all my friends are like "get a dodge"... you mean a boat? Lol
Dodge owner, It’s way too heavy to compete with the Z and 5.0 top end. But if I were to trade in my SP I’d definitely get a Z. That little guy looks fun as hell to drive! Good races guys.
No it isnt lol cant u see its a manual 392 a 8speed would of beat the z but still lost to the 10speed by a lil
@@alexander_3923 Mustang also was a manual transmission, just sayin. Carson was shiftin them gears lol
@@alexander_3923 mustang was manual also
@@Elian_Zed i know im saying if all 3 where automatic which would truly prove whos the fastest the z would of lost against the scat but the mustang would of still won
@@alexander_3923 The Z auto isn't the greatest auto transmission out there lol...though I'm not sure if the Americans have it any better.
Like to see the Supra in that group!
The Supra already smoked the Z in Hagerty's video
@@TheBreakfastLover The Z absolutely destroy the Supra on the track and have way more *tuning potential.*
Even tho the B58 in thz MK5 from BMW is insane and is like the "new 2JZ", that new TTV6 from Nissan have more potential like always (just look at the Infinity with the same engine, now imagine in thz Z which is way lighter.) Just look at the GT-R, not even extremely tuned Porsches can do a thing against GT-Rs when tuned.
@@RiasGremoryS54 that's nice, the Z still lost to the Supra though, watch Hagerty's video, Z took a big L
@@RiasGremoryS54 The Z lost to a GR86 on the track in Throttle House's test and it got smoked in Hagerty's track test by the Supra...
@@RiasGremoryS54 first off the Z didnt destory anything. 2nd its not a "new twin turbo v6", its the same v6 thats been in infinitis since 2016. 3rd the z doesnt have more potential than the b58, especially when you consider the supra is built from factory with forged internals that can hold 1000hp. mated to a better automatic transmisson on top of that. you have no idea what the fuck youre talking about
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Nissan is always there to fill in the bottom spot of each segment, thank you @nissan
The shifts in the Z seem so slow though, even with no lift shifting. I'd like to see the same race, but with the automatic version of all 3 cars.
Yeah I don't think this was the cars fault but mostly the driverz
He wasn’t in track mode he was in sport mode
Main reason I bought my mustang was just the sound tbh 😩 I can never get enough of that coyote 5.0. Side note, mustang gets it power past 4k RPM’s so after that you get a plenty of torque
I bought the SP because I'm a low-end guy. I'm ready to upshift at 4k! But I bought a 96' GT new back in the day and loved it.
That 392 just doesn't have enough for that nearly 8k revving mustang
It's the extra weight that's doing it in...
@@Akintich it really is, if it was like 400 lbs lighter it would be much quicker
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I really appreciate you guys releasing these drag race vids on Sunday mornings. Reminds me of watching Power Block shows when I was a kid. Except you guys aren't 50% ads 😄
I agree 👍 💯 Power Block was my show when I was a kid too lol still love it
Wow that Mustang GT just went at it Yall should do a vid with the GT Scatpack Camaro next
Ahhhhh yes I came to watch a mustang beat a Nissan and a boat
Boat beat the Nissan.God the Z is just slowww.
@@originaldelta since the dodge lost on the roll race, the first race was probably driver error on the Nissan.
@@noneyabizz8337 Still take the Dodge over the Z,and the mustang gt over both.
@@originaldelta you couldn't pay me to drive a dodge
I'll always love JDM first and foremost but my monies are on the Mustang
I'm a JDM dude but I've always loved Mustangs. Planning on getting one too.
the sound of the stang took it 🏆
Honestly thought the Z was gonna get spanked on the rolling race. That surprised me. Now I know it’s no slouch.
Z needs a driver mod...4.2 seconds 0-60 tested by Hagerty on the manual there's no reason to lose like that.
@@Renaissance_Engineer nope its the difference between a BIG V8 vs a TINY V6TT the turbines can only add so much and the software clearly isn't up to spec but even if it was top end is mustang all day and down low its the Scat.
@@ywe3 LMAO... " turbines can add only so much" ...... What? That's the most generic statement ever. Turbos can add 1000's of HP depending on the build. Good lord.
@@ywe3the Z makes 350 TQ at just 1500rpm. That’s a lot down low, that’s more than a factory LS3.