youre focusing on the wrong angle. need to look at distributors that purposfully hold back these hot products to sell to their lgs partners for more, later on.
I get what you’re saying, bro but at the end of the day these stores end up hurting themselves anyway, so they will eventually lose more and more loyal customers.
When your only stream of revenue (or most) is selling TCG, sure go with the market. But the issue is (at least here in Australia) that some giant retail stores who's revenue is
“Nobody is forcing these store to dump product at a loss” I can’t believe you don’t see the parallel. NOBODY IS FORCING PEOPLE TO PAY HIGHER PRICES. Your argument is incredibly weak and you appear to not understand basic economics.
If a store that has a history of always being legit and honest in the past is now suddenly selling these particular items at a higher price that seems less than legit and honest to you the simplest and wisest answer is that you probably just don't understand the full extent of this situation.
My take is to be competitive these stores have to sell product under MSRP. I bought a case of Paldean Fates ETB's for $37 an ETB, $12 under MSRP. This has been happening since scarlet & Violet base set to Surging Sparks. Always under retail. Yes, if a store is fortunate enough to have distribution, they should be selling products no higher then MSRP but I do not feel selling above MSRP on items that are so hot is bad. The margins have been so slim for so long that the mom and pop shops deserve these bigger profits. If they sell it at MSRP they will also sell out too fast.
@@thecommoncollector Yeah I know. I put some bundle deals together with a Binder Collection, Poster collection and a tech sticker for $90 which is $10 over MSRP per item and they sold very fast. This set is nuts.
It’s a tricky situation. If stores sell at msrp then stuff is immediately sold out and they got nothing in their stores. So they gotta price it to sell but not too fast
I understand where you're coming from but also everyone is doing this on Ebay already, so stores trying to get in on it makes sense. The problem is the price of cards at launch don't match where they finish and with all Gambling products you get mad at the people exploiting the gamblers but there a deeper-rooted issue with fomo and the fact people think they will get lucky. 100 bucks for a 39.99 pack is fine if you hit the PSA 10 Chase card lol
My husband and I got into the hobby last year, and our two young children enjoy Pokémon as well. Unfortunately, it is a very expensive hobby for a family that momentarily lives paycheck to paycheck. It's frustrating to finally save up enough money to buy the product we want, but can't because it has been sold out to scalpers who have zero interest in Pokémon besides potential profits.
Bro, I understand what your saying but stores have to unload and sell cheap sometimes. That's how it works. If not then only the rich of the rich stores will survive. It's good to have competition or else prices will increase even more. Also a lot of distros end up upping their prices when there's hot items that come out and stores have to pay more, I heard that's happened a lot.
While i agree these etbs "shouldn't" be selling for 100 dollars i do have q couple issues with the video. You're right nobody is forcing stores to sell at 70 dollars etc because this is their choice but in the same token it is also their choice to sell an etb at 100. Just because you dont like it doesn't mean its wrong or right. If you dont like it dont buy it if they dont sell enough prices will drop. To spread the info is fine but To say this is wrong isn't really fair. You say because it effects the casual person but if they are buying at 100 dollars that is what they thought the product was worth to them. Same yhing if you have a sealed base set box, its yours you sell it at the price you decide. Is it wrong to sell that box at 15k if you had it would you sell lower? These boxes are the stores inventory they can try and sell whatever price they want.
Soooo sad and not creative that those haters had to make videos about you just to have views or even make any money. Karma is real good luck to those haters 😊 thank you for your content Dr.AppleSauce
I don't see anything wrong with what stores are doing, these hot sets make up for all the average and below sets. As Rudy said the "S" stands for suggested. I personally like and still like safarzone but passed up on their Prismatic ETBs @ 800/case, its called voting with your dollar u don't have to buy everything.
i think poke ne discuss this in one of his video, citing that stores supplies became limited thus if the items for sale become limited, the payment for the operation of the shop, utilities/ salaries becomes a problem thus store opt to raise the price of hot items.. but i don't like how safari replies to costumers in X cited by pokedoctors in one of his video
“They’re screwing over people for short term gains” How is a store screwing people who are willing and happy to pay the price they charge? You seem to be entitled to a certain price for Pokémon. Might want to check your pride, dude.
You know, thank you so much for being a loyal viewer and commenter. You comment on every single video and it helps my algorithm so much. Seriously, I appreciate it. 🙏🏼
@@DrApplesauceTwo me too man. I may disagree with your takes but at the end of the day I want your channel/business to be as successful as possible. Much love bro
I think the people/stores that are selling 2/3x MSRP are banking on the majority of people forgetting. I think that the majority of people have the attention span of a fly nowadays. The people paying attention may lose out in the short term but will do well in the long term. Spread the word about these stores as much as you can but that's about all you can do.
"A fool and his money are soon parted" Whether it's the gaming store or customers doing the pre orders getting screwed. One thing for sure is I'm not the one. So yeah I'd recommend not putting much energy into this. It's going to be a lesson for the store or customer.
In the long run, the LCS that overcharged on pre-release products will ultimately hurt themselves. Aside from the fact that the consumers got screwed because of the prices, the reputation of the shop has gone down the drain.
Im pretty new to the hobby but I can not find any 151 for a normal price anywhere. Which does give me fomo for the prismatic evolutions set. I pre-order all I can find for the normal price lol
it's gonna be just like surging sparks. even when there is a restock it will be bought out immediately. you'll have to be actually lucky or know when restocks happen to get any of the new sets coming out for msrp. everything is gonna stay higher priced. just the way it is.
I’m not buying anything from prismatic till a year later. The hype will die . I’m kinda happy people are wasting their money lol. I’m sure when gym trainers or team rockets they be dry . I’ll buy those . I’m not paying scalping prices . I’m also very sure and willing to believe that Pokemon is seeing this . Prismatic evolution will be the next shining fates . I’m calling it.
Not likely like SF when Paldean Fates is doing good atm. Prismatic Evo will do good due to Eeveelution alone. Look at CZ, it was printed to the ground yet the value of the set is doing good and rising raw and seal.
I think there are two sides to every coin. A store would probably sell at MSRP if they could get restocks. They only get their allocation amount which is crazy small for this set, and that is their one chance to sell the set. After that, distro never has any restocks. Happened with Surging Sparks. Hasnt hit distro since launch. And if they do het any stock back, they dont sell it at distro price, they sell it higher. You cant survive just off of allocation amounts. Even if you double the cost of your products. Stores are in a bad spot. Walmarts and gamestop get all the restocks and its usually higher than msrp as well. Thier prismatic booster bundles are, even with biying their membership
The way I look at it is if stores sold at msrp scalpers would buy majority of the product and sell at scalp prices. Or the stores can sell at scalp prices and cut out the scalpers. Either way sucks lol but
As a consumer I only had one correction. You said that stores charging a premium KNOWING the price will crash on release is wrong…for THIS release only I’ve listen to multiple channels with distributions and some stores without…allocation for LGS are low for this set so for this ONE set there’s no guarantee prices will crash like other sets. With the influx of ppl prices will stay high till a reprint comes which there is no guarantee for a reprint….highly likely yes but no guarantee. With that said im sticking to singles they should be slightly more affordable with so many ppl ripping the set and hopefully easier pull rates
I get what you're saying brother, you're having our backs and just caring that we don't get taken advantage of. At the end of the day these store can sell their products whatever they feel like. I personally will not pay over retail when its not even out physically in stores, its crazy. Peace and love thanks for what you do!🤙
I miss the time pre covid when I can go to my lcs and buy hot set for msrp or under msrp. Now a days it's either hit retail or buy from lcs for market, online too but ofc there are some charging msrp and some market price.
90% of people are waiting. 1/2 the 10% will need that capital back before the 90% will buy and they lose because they need to offload at discount. That said when the set is English I’m all about msrp. If the set is in a different language than prices vary.
We have been selling booster boxes at a $5 Profit if that and so on. There is a point where we have to get a yearly profit. Yes sometimes we have to sell to pay for invoices. In the end we need to make money or there will be no store. So eventually it will be your problem. it has nothing to do with capital. Im sitting on ever 30 etb cases I cant sell at a break even point.
You should really look into some actual stores who deal with distributors, in order to keep in good standing and get high allocations for the HOT sets, they have to show loyalty and commitment by buying into EVERY set including bundled garbage items like Battle Acadamies that DISTRIBUTORS push on them in order to get the best products etc.. So a lot of times if something is like a Shrouded Fable and crashes, these stores get stuck with it and HAVE to keep cash moving or they will crash in debt and we are HAPPY to take those deals at their demise, but pissed at them for trying to make some extra to help keep their stores remain open is just whiny entitlement, I'll agree to some extent with some of the more MASSIVE stores but being mad at every brick and mortar is just ridiculous. If it's too hot and too expensive, don't buy it and wait for the demand to cool off... simple or buy from big box stores when they have stock.
I loved the Katy Williams short lol. I’m with you on your take. If you want to sell at msrp, that’s okay. If you want to sell 5-10% over on very hyped sets, I am okay with it. But if you are selling 50-100% over msrp, then that is criminal and I am not okay with it. I shopped at 2 LGSs stores. One gouged me when 151 came out and the other had fair prices. I stopped shopping at the one that gouged me even when they lowered their prices later and stayed loyal to the second store.
There is so much FOMO as usual, even more now than before, and I’ve been trying to preach that PAYtience PAYS since day 1 on my channel, like a lot of my subscribers listen but of course there are still some who are adamant that these high prices are here to stay even when I’ve shown time and time again that there will be stock for MSRP and even under MSRP 😄 The recent restocks at Walmart show how dumb it is to buy products for way over MSRP when the product doesn’t even come out for a while, and I agree with you about the stores selling for such high prices 🤙🏽
Wasn't expecting this lol spicy video, I definitely subbed. Dont hate you or think your a bad person. Happy to hear that you said this is your biased opinion as a consumer than other consumers saying how TCG stores should run their business, that happens a lot. The "not my problem and not my fault" argument is very flawed. The same thing can be said as a TCG store owner, you don't have to buy prismatic evolutions at this price, no one is forcing the consumer to buy it at that price. As a consumer how is it your problem when a TCG store is selling it for higher the price you don't want? Is someone forcing you to buy it at that price? again a flawed argument. Yes you are correct, there are certain store owners who shouldn't be brick and motors owners at all, its not easy and its not for everyone. Didn't realize this until after listening to the video for the 4th time especially when your saying correct financial reserves to run a store effectively, now the video is starting to sound like you are a consumer telling store owners how they should run there business. Can you clarify when you say it is your problem as a consumer? because it sounds like your jumping from the pre order argument to price gauge argument. Also including that you learned this pre order argument from Rudy also makes me think your more upset with pre orders than the pricing. It sounds like you have more issue with one more than the other. Again spicy video, I think your a nice cool guy. Its just in this video you do say a lot that your a consumer but you are also making it sound like your a consumer trying to tell TCG stores how to run there business to TCG store owners. You are 110% correct that as a consumer, TCG store owner issues are not your problem which comes back to the saying CONSUMERS WILL ALWAYS BE HAPPY TO SEE A STORE TAKE A LOSS. and than when you say it is your problem stores are price gauging comes back to the saying CONSUMERS WILL NEVER BE HAPPY TO SEE A STORE WIN. Its great to hear that you care about people and want to help, now even though your not actually saying this but to store owners it honestly sounds like you only care about consumers and not store owners. I also do care about the consumer but I also care about other TCG store owners. My argument is I want to see more TCG stores open than closed and your argument is pre orders, price gauging and I am a consumer not my problem. I could be wrong about your arguments, so I apologies in advance. We both cant make everyone happy but hopefully we can both keep open minded about things and see both sides. Also I am going to buy one of your hoodies but can I get it at MSRP? lol Serious though I will buy one of the hoodies, I do want to show some support.
I’m glad you found the video interesting! I'm actually not telling anyone how to run their business, my main issue is with the pre order pricing being inflated.
Agreed, just don't buy at the hype. Don't buy from scalpers and shops cashing in on their patrons. Everyone trying to cash in on the next couple Pokémon releases. I've been able to pre-order a ton of Prismatic Evolutions for msrp and I have a real job where I can't sit on the phone all day. If I can obtain pre orders for msrp so can you.
if its not ur problem that they have to lower prices to get there money back....same goes to them.....its not there problem u or we cant afford the new market price....im buying BB for 100-120 which i dont mind paying for these next sets.....its simple if u cant afford it then dont buy....just like going to any store and trying to get a $1000 item but the companies pay $50 to make it.....that should apply ur mind of thinking if u believe they shouldnt raise there prices......supply and demand very simple.....its like food now is 30% higher but every1 is still paying the price....🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
These stores act as if they dont earn when selling msrp when in fact they alrdy earn a certain percentage when selling at MSRP😂 sadly stores r trying to act like scalpers nowadays too
I love that you teach me, I understand the market better because of you and you have a commitment to your people to get the facts out there. And worse of all the normal price stores a always out due to scalpers buying them out and reselling for 150 a box for Japanese box of Pokémon Eevee
But why shouldn’t the stores sell them above MSRP? Theres no exploitation until somebody buys it. Nobody should buy it at 2x msrp if they do then thats the consumers fault. Wait until its reprinted and then buy. If you can’t get it at msrp then tough. No store is responsible for the market price and i’m a consumer saying this. I have got some at msrp and maybe i wont get all i asked. Move onto the next set then. There is no such thing as store scalping. If the stores sold under msrp then someone would buy then scalp.👌🏼
It’s not gouging…..either they sell at market or they get bought out in 5 min and then whoever got those products will just resell R market and make the money, someone will make that profit, might as well be the stores. And as always if you don’t like the price then DONT buy it.
My card shop I always went to always did MRSP. He was the best. He passed away sadly... He never upped the prices for his products simply because the item was popular. I had to find a new card shop to pre order at. I already ordered two ETBs from the poke center, but I wanted one of each of the $10 tins, since I wanted them in my collection. This new place I go to now... $20 for one small tin. :/ It sucks.
I agree with you TCG in Australia is now charging 150 a box it’s a joke especially concidering it’s not even out in Australia yet I found 2 days earlier it was 139.00 and the week before that it was 100.00 per box they are ripping people off before it’s even out
Fusion strike, Paldea Evolved and S&V were trash ass releases lol no one wanted those. A retail store should not be selling over msrp considering they are buying at cost...
OK So Timmy’s response to the first thing was “well stores didn’t have to sell those products for that cheap” right ? You’ve CLEARLY never run a business before if a product sits on a shelf ITS COSTING THEM $$$ every day it sits ! I honestly could keep going on how dumb that statement is but anyway I’m just gonna turn it around on you but mine actually makes sense People DONT HAVE TO buy these products nobody HAS to buy Pokemon cards . But stores HAVE to move product! nonetheless It’s their business they can charge whatever they want . You don’t like it don’t buy it! It really couldn’t be more simple really don’t understand taking the time & effort to think up, to create, then edit a video whining about prices that stores are charging holy crap store’s & businesses are trying to make $$$ does that concept just blow your tiny mind away ? 😂 STUNNED stores want $$$ Holy crap 🤯🤯🤯🤯 make people not want to shop there ??? Dude come on most people are sheep they’ll completely forget about all this ! Do you actually THINK about the 💩that falls out of your mouth ? Let’s see if you get this : Your an idiot, your an idiot, your an idiot, your an idiot who has no idea what there actually talking about CLEARLY! Holy 💩 could we should we ?? Please tell me WHY is it “wrong” for stores to do this Timmy 😂 if people are paying these prices (which they clearly ARE or they wouldn’t be charging them!) please tell me why that’s “wrong” as a business stand point ? & no I’m going to accept “Umm Umm it’s wrong” also not accepting “people will stop shopping there” I’ve already answered that ! Sheeple are just gonna stop going to Wa-mart huh BULLSHIT ! it would literally be stupid & bad business not to be charging prices that people are clearly willing to pay. Hey dumbass Lose lose Hmm most stores have in small writing your not allowed to cancel preorders again just more 💩 falling out ! Oh wow seriously you could not have ended this 💩 show of a video proving my point any better you end it saying “WHY when I make an unscripted video there’s more problems” WOW I hopefully don’t even have to answer that ? WOW just WOW Welcome to the 💩show people! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I do want to make this clear does it suck when prices go up like this…? Hell yes what am I doing about it…? Not whining about it & making dumb ignorant rants on a public forum ! I’m just waiting till the price drops cause it will. So what stores are doing right now I just don’t give a 💩👍 P.S. there is no god, grow 🆙
Sounds like I struck a nerve. Good. It’s supremely messed up when stores do This. Hard stop. If you wanna presale, combine the hot item with 2 stale items and get msrp sales on them all. Save product for actual release. Lots of ways to do it. Is it illegal? No. Is it ok to tell the truth of the situation and choose not to support stores that do this? Yup. Cuase there are PLENTY of stores choosing NOT to do this, and finding other ways to make it fair.
@@DrApplesauceTwoI don’t agree with charging those outrageous prices. But, I’ve had to raise the price on my Surging Sparks packs because of how much the distributor charged us and made us buy product they can’t sell(we can’t either). When you make videos like this, it hurts LGS’s. It’s not necessarily your fault, but people automatically think that when a store charges more it’s because they’re “scalping”. Not every time. Some distributors will charge stores more if the market is high. Not only is the extra product they make us buy not going to sell, we have to pay taxes on it as well. We get screwed every which way we turn. The amount of taxes we pay alone is insane. Then people want us to sell them booster boxes for less than what we pay for them. UA-camrs inexperience with running businesses has really hurt a lot of LGS’s. Streamers are the worst though. If you truly are so concerned about people spending too much money on Pokemon, that’s where you should be focusing your attention on. I mean, spending $100 on an etb is nothing compared to spending hundreds on rip til hits and rip and ships. Big box stores will always get a ton of product, streamers are getting 10x what local stores are getting, LGS’s are the ones always getting screwed. We’re damned if we do, we’re damned if we don’t. We can’t win. Since, you listen to Rudy so much, he says there’s no money in running an LGS these days. He’s right. We don’t make a lot of money on sealed product. We(our store) sell our booster boxes way under MSRP and our etbs at MSRP. People still complain and want us to sell for less than what we paid on them. Some stores don’t have the money to hold on to these products until they sell. They have to try and recoup any amount they can get, even if it’s at a loss. Shrouded Fable is a set that may take us years to get rid of. We have to buy as much as possible though, so when sets like Prismatic come out we can get a decent allocation. We still aren’t getting enough to meet demand. Not even close. Your friends owning an LGS, and you owning an LGS, are not the same. You don’t really know until you actually do it yourself. Especially, if you have a lot of competition. People just don’t get it, and these types of videos make it worse. You’re not keeping stores “in check”. The stores that are doing this won’t be affected by your videos at all. It’s the small stores that do right that get hurt by this. If they have to raise the price of a product because of their distributor, they get rang through the mud. Told they’re lying, get called scalpers. It’s outrageous. Sometimes, it seems like we’re better off not restocking the product. Then, we lose, because we can’t compete with other stores because we don’t have the product. People are just tired of the rhetoric surrounding game stores. Rambling done.
I bet you bought Latios & Latias GX for $100 and once the card got hyped you sold it for $1000 to some poor little kid with cancer who saved up for a year by chimney sweeping after their chemotherapy sessions to be able to complete their master set. As Greta Thunburge would say “How dare you!”
Never owned a Latios & Latias GX, and as someone who’s family and siblings battled with cancer as a little kid, and say other young children lose their battles to cancer, your comment is disgusting.
Brother, the only one who doesn’t get it is you. It’s not about should or shouldn’t. It’s about basic economics man. Supply and demand. There is no good and bad here. There are only the markets. The FREE markets. If there’s a real problem, the market will identify and correct.
Lol...clueless is definitely not how I would describe you Dr. A. Game stores will make a profit at MSRP. Merry Christmas and God bless you & the family!
Sorry saucy don't agree with ya here. If people are dumb enough to pay overs then bad luck. If morons didn't pay it guess what they'd lower their prices. It's good for the Japanese market too. I'll keep watching ya mate ❤
Sorry bud, but I have to disagree. This sounds like a cop out of an answers. Form your logic, no one is forcing anyone to buy them at those higher prices also.
You should’ve ordered when the pre-orders were up at GameStop and Pokémon center like I told you guys. But of course no one ever listens and they know it all just like you lol and how are you going to say people are going crazy over Pokémon when that’s all I see in your background?😂😂
I preordered what I want for MSRP already. So I’m not sure whos chops you’re trying to bust. And if ALL you see in my background is Pokemon, you have really bad observation skills, there’s way more than Pokemon on display.
I am very observant. You get my point. you can’t call people weirdos and you collect things too.. you’re very argumentative you should’ve ignored my comment I bet you have problems with your girlfriend if you even have one because you talk like you’re the girl always crying and complaining when you’re going to buy the sh!t anyway
This old man lies, this kind of behavior is what is ruining the Pokémon hobby. We have too many old lying men who will do anything for Pokemon cards, they have no morals or no remorse. They want money that is all, if boxes go down then all the stores complain they lose margin it’s just dumb. Nobody wants to listen to stores complain they need to stop crying and sell cards.
By that mentality....No one is forcing consumers to buy at the elevated prices. This hobby is a luxury. If you cant afford it, maybe its a sign that the consumer should step back and think about the purchase and or step away until the Sports and/or TCG market calms down. 🫠🫡
@@DrApplesauceTwoYours is the L take. Even Rudy understands markets. He doesn’t like the word scalper, and said if you can an etb for $99.99 that that’s a good deal. Danny made a good video on this the other day. You seem to be in the minority. By all means, keep making these videos. You’re really exposing your lack of knowledge on this issue.
youre focusing on the wrong angle. need to look at distributors that purposfully hold back these hot products to sell to their lgs partners for more, later on.
I get what you’re saying, bro but at the end of the day these stores end up hurting themselves anyway, so they will eventually lose more and more loyal customers.
I agree
Thanks for caring 🙏🏻
As a store owner it is my problem when the market is under MSRP.
As a store owner it is not my problem when the market is over MSRP.
Correct. The Dr. just doesn’t seem to get it.
When your only stream of revenue (or most) is selling TCG, sure go with the market. But the issue is (at least here in Australia) that some giant retail stores who's revenue is
“Nobody is forcing these store to dump product at a loss”
I can’t believe you don’t see the parallel.
NOBODY IS FORCING PEOPLE TO PAY HIGHER PRICES.
Your argument is incredibly weak and you appear to not understand basic economics.
That wouldn't be a good video then.
Customers can only take advantage of stores selling for cheap, not stores selling for more.
If a store that has a history of always being legit and honest in the past is now suddenly selling these particular items at a higher price that seems less than legit and honest to you the simplest and wisest answer is that you probably just don't understand the full extent of this situation.
My take is to be competitive these stores have to sell product under MSRP. I bought a case of Paldean Fates ETB's for $37 an ETB, $12 under MSRP. This has been happening since scarlet & Violet base set to Surging Sparks. Always under retail. Yes, if a store is fortunate enough to have distribution, they should be selling products no higher then MSRP but I do not feel selling above MSRP on items that are so hot is bad. The margins have been so slim for so long that the mom and pop shops deserve these bigger profits. If they sell it at MSRP they will also sell out too fast.
Fair enough.
@@DrApplesauceTwo There is also gouging. I sold all of my ETB's at $79.99 not $100. That's just too greedy.
@@Top_Loaded_JRGS77still 30 over msrp 😂😂😂
@@thecommoncollector Yeah I know. I put some bundle deals together with a Binder Collection, Poster collection and a tech sticker for $90 which is $10 over MSRP per item and they sold very fast. This set is nuts.
@@Top_Loaded_JRGS77 this is the kind of stuff that makes we want to take a break but it’s so hard to step away lol
It’s a tricky situation. If stores sell at msrp then stuff is immediately sold out and they got nothing in their stores. So they gotta price it to sell but not too fast
Collectible communities love to find anything to stay upset about.
I understand where you're coming from but also everyone is doing this on Ebay already, so stores trying to get in on it makes sense. The problem is the price of cards at launch don't match where they finish and with all Gambling products you get mad at the people exploiting the gamblers but there a deeper-rooted issue with fomo and the fact people think they will get lucky. 100 bucks for a 39.99 pack is fine if you hit the PSA 10 Chase card lol
Fair enough lol
My husband and I got into the hobby last year, and our two young children enjoy Pokémon as well. Unfortunately, it is a very expensive hobby for a family that momentarily lives paycheck to paycheck. It's frustrating to finally save up enough money to buy the product we want, but can't because it has been sold out to scalpers who have zero interest in Pokémon besides potential profits.
100% agreed. I get blocked by my LCS when I call them out on there FB page. Very scummy.
Sheeeesh
Bro, I understand what your saying but stores have to unload and sell cheap sometimes. That's how it works. If not then only the rich of the rich stores will survive. It's good to have competition or else prices will increase even more. Also a lot of distros end up upping their prices when there's hot items that come out and stores have to pay more, I heard that's happened a lot.
The Main reason why stores are wanting market price for prismatic ETB’s right right now is because the lack of supply from Distribution’s
While i agree these etbs "shouldn't" be selling for 100 dollars i do have q couple issues with the video. You're right nobody is forcing stores to sell at 70 dollars etc because this is their choice but in the same token it is also their choice to sell an etb at 100. Just because you dont like it doesn't mean its wrong or right. If you dont like it dont buy it if they dont sell enough prices will drop. To spread the info is fine but To say this is wrong isn't really fair.
You say because it effects the casual person but if they are buying at 100 dollars that is what they thought the product was worth to them. Same yhing if you have a sealed base set box, its yours you sell it at the price you decide. Is it wrong to sell that box at 15k if you had it would you sell lower? These boxes are the stores inventory they can try and sell whatever price they want.
Soooo sad and not creative that those haters had to make videos about you just to have views or even make any money. Karma is real good luck to those haters 😊 thank you for your content Dr.AppleSauce
I don't see anything wrong with what stores are doing, these hot sets make up for all the average and below sets. As Rudy said the "S" stands for suggested. I personally like and still like safarzone but passed up on their Prismatic ETBs @ 800/case, its called voting with your dollar u don't have to buy everything.
i think poke ne discuss this in one of his video, citing that stores supplies became limited thus if the items for sale become limited, the payment for the operation of the shop, utilities/ salaries becomes a problem thus store opt to raise the price of hot items.. but i don't like how safari replies to costumers in X cited by pokedoctors in one of his video
“They’re screwing over people for short term gains”
How is a store screwing people who are willing and happy to pay the price they charge? You seem to be entitled to a certain price for Pokémon. Might want to check your pride, dude.
You know, thank you so much for being a loyal viewer and commenter. You comment on every single video and it helps my algorithm so much. Seriously, I appreciate it. 🙏🏼
@@DrApplesauceTwo I get my opinion out, you get the algorithm boost. Win win
Agreed, being totally honest too.
@@DrApplesauceTwo me too man. I may disagree with your takes but at the end of the day I want your channel/business to be as successful as possible. Much love bro
Consumers want Market price when MSRP is higher.
Consumers want MSRP when market price is higher.
LGSs can't win.
Classic case of the consumer wanting to have their cake and eat it too and then throwing a fit when physical reality tells them that's impossible
I think the people/stores that are selling 2/3x MSRP are banking on the majority of people forgetting. I think that the majority of people have the attention span of a fly nowadays. The people paying attention may lose out in the short term but will do well in the long term. Spread the word about these stores as much as you can but that's about all you can do.
fair point!
I’m not a fan of the prices being so high for a new set and stores raising there prices because of fomo.
"A fool and his money are soon parted"
Whether it's the gaming store or customers doing the pre orders getting screwed.
One thing for sure is I'm not the one. So yeah I'd recommend not putting much energy into this. It's going to be a lesson for the store or customer.
Well said
An awesome hobby is being ruined by greed.
Doesn’t Danny talk about not FOMO’ing in most of his videos and I love his videos.
He does!
In the long run, the LCS that overcharged on pre-release products will ultimately hurt themselves. Aside from the fact that the consumers got screwed because of the prices, the reputation of the shop has gone down the drain.
Yep
Im pretty new to the hobby but I can not find any 151 for a normal price anywhere. Which does give me fomo for the prismatic evolutions set. I pre-order all I can find for the normal price lol
it's gonna be just like surging sparks. even when there is a restock it will be bought out immediately. you'll have to be actually lucky or know when restocks happen to get any of the new sets coming out for msrp. everything is gonna stay higher priced. just the way it is.
I’m not buying anything from prismatic till a year later. The hype will die . I’m kinda happy people are wasting their money lol. I’m sure when gym trainers or team rockets they be dry . I’ll buy those . I’m not paying scalping prices . I’m also very sure and willing to believe that Pokemon is seeing this . Prismatic evolution will be the next shining fates . I’m calling it.
It’s a good thought but a year ? Your not going to have to wait that long
Not likely like SF when Paldean Fates is doing good atm. Prismatic Evo will do good due to Eeveelution alone. Look at CZ, it was printed to the ground yet the value of the set is doing good and rising raw and seal.
@@nightflash262paldean fates is not being reprinted
Flippers and Scammers always hating on Dr. Applesauce😂
Bingo. Lol
I think there are two sides to every coin. A store would probably sell at MSRP if they could get restocks. They only get their allocation amount which is crazy small for this set, and that is their one chance to sell the set. After that, distro never has any restocks. Happened with Surging Sparks. Hasnt hit distro since launch. And if they do het any stock back, they dont sell it at distro price, they sell it higher. You cant survive just off of allocation amounts. Even if you double the cost of your products. Stores are in a bad spot. Walmarts and gamestop get all the restocks and its usually higher than msrp as well. Thier prismatic booster bundles are, even with biying their membership
The way I look at it is if stores sold at msrp scalpers would buy majority of the product and sell at scalp prices. Or the stores can sell at scalp prices and cut out the scalpers. Either way sucks lol but
I think a great thing to do is sell an MSRP, but bundle it with product that nobody wants to buy and force people to buy both of them at MSRP
As a consumer I only had one correction. You said that stores charging a premium KNOWING the price will crash on release is wrong…for THIS release only I’ve listen to multiple channels with distributions and some stores without…allocation for LGS are low for this set so for this ONE set there’s no guarantee prices will crash like other sets. With the influx of ppl prices will stay high till a reprint comes which there is no guarantee for a reprint….highly likely yes but no guarantee. With that said im sticking to singles they should be slightly more affordable with so many ppl ripping the set and hopefully easier pull rates
I get what you're saying brother, you're having our backs and just caring that we don't get taken advantage of. At the end of the day these store can sell their products whatever they feel like. I personally will not pay over retail when its not even out physically in stores, its crazy. Peace and love thanks for what you do!🤙
I miss the time pre covid when I can go to my lcs and buy hot set for msrp or under msrp. Now a days it's either hit retail or buy from lcs for market, online too but ofc there are some charging msrp and some market price.
90% of people are waiting. 1/2 the 10% will need that capital back before the 90% will buy and they lose because they need to offload at discount. That said when the set is English I’m all about msrp. If the set is in a different language than prices vary.
We have been selling booster boxes at a $5 Profit if that and so on. There is a point where we have to get a yearly profit. Yes sometimes we have to sell to pay for invoices. In the end we need to make money or there will be no store. So eventually it will be your problem. it has nothing to do with capital. Im sitting on ever 30 etb cases I cant sell at a break even point.
You should really look into some actual stores who deal with distributors, in order to keep in good standing and get high allocations for the HOT sets, they have to show loyalty and commitment by buying into EVERY set including bundled garbage items like Battle Acadamies that DISTRIBUTORS push on them in order to get the best products etc.. So a lot of times if something is like a Shrouded Fable and crashes, these stores get stuck with it and HAVE to keep cash moving or they will crash in debt and we are HAPPY to take those deals at their demise, but pissed at them for trying to make some extra to help keep their stores remain open is just whiny entitlement, I'll agree to some extent with some of the more MASSIVE stores but being mad at every brick and mortar is just ridiculous. If it's too hot and too expensive, don't buy it and wait for the demand to cool off... simple or buy from big box stores when they have stock.
I am VERY aware of how stores relationships work with distributors, as I know many people that own brick and mortar LGS
People act like its gonna be impossible to get prismatic. 2 days in a discord and i got all the pre orders i want
I loved the Katy Williams short lol. I’m with you on your take. If you want to sell at msrp, that’s okay. If you want to sell 5-10% over on very hyped sets, I am okay with it. But if you are selling 50-100% over msrp, then that is criminal and I am not okay with it. I shopped at 2 LGSs stores. One gouged me when 151 came out and the other had fair prices. I stopped shopping at the one that gouged me even when they lowered their prices later and stayed loyal to the second store.
Glad you liked it
There is so much FOMO as usual, even more now than before, and I’ve been trying to preach that PAYtience PAYS since day 1 on my channel, like a lot of my subscribers listen but of course there are still some who are adamant that these high prices are here to stay even when I’ve shown time and time again that there will be stock for MSRP and even under MSRP 😄 The recent restocks at Walmart show how dumb it is to buy products for way over MSRP when the product doesn’t even come out for a while, and I agree with you about the stores selling for such high prices 🤙🏽
Perfectly said!
Wasn't expecting this lol spicy video, I definitely subbed. Dont hate you or think your a bad person. Happy to hear that you said this is your biased opinion as a consumer than other consumers saying how TCG stores should run their business, that happens a lot.
The "not my problem and not my fault" argument is very flawed. The same thing can be said as a TCG store owner, you don't have to buy prismatic evolutions at this price, no one is forcing the consumer to buy it at that price. As a consumer how is it your problem when a TCG store is selling it for higher the price you don't want? Is someone forcing you to buy it at that price? again a flawed argument.
Yes you are correct, there are certain store owners who shouldn't be brick and motors owners at all, its not easy and its not for everyone. Didn't realize this until after listening to the video for the 4th time especially when your saying correct financial reserves to run a store effectively, now the video is starting to sound like you are a consumer telling store owners how they should run there business.
Can you clarify when you say it is your problem as a consumer? because it sounds like your jumping from the pre order argument to price gauge argument. Also including that you learned this pre order argument from Rudy also makes me think your more upset with pre orders than the pricing. It sounds like you have more issue with one more than the other.
Again spicy video, I think your a nice cool guy. Its just in this video you do say a lot that your a consumer but you are also making it sound like your a consumer trying to tell TCG stores how to run there business to TCG store owners. You are 110% correct that as a consumer, TCG store owner issues are not your problem which comes back to the saying CONSUMERS WILL ALWAYS BE HAPPY TO SEE A STORE TAKE A LOSS. and than when you say it is your problem stores are price gauging comes back to the saying CONSUMERS WILL NEVER BE HAPPY TO SEE A STORE WIN. Its great to hear that you care about people and want to help, now even though your not actually saying this but to store owners it honestly sounds like you only care about consumers and not store owners. I also do care about the consumer but I also care about other TCG store owners. My argument is I want to see more TCG stores open than closed and your argument is pre orders, price gauging and I am a consumer not my problem. I could be wrong about your arguments, so I apologies in advance. We both cant make everyone happy but hopefully we can both keep open minded about things and see both sides.
Also I am going to buy one of your hoodies but can I get it at MSRP? lol Serious though I will buy one of the hoodies, I do want to show some support.
I’m glad you found the video interesting! I'm actually not telling anyone how to run their business, my main issue is with the pre order pricing being inflated.
Btw in the last three years a average customer coming back with $40 etbs in stock is about three months if that. then they disappear..
Huh
Agreed, just don't buy at the hype. Don't buy from scalpers and shops cashing in on their patrons. Everyone trying to cash in on the next couple Pokémon releases. I've been able to pre-order a ton of Prismatic Evolutions for msrp and I have a real job where I can't sit on the phone all day. If I can obtain pre orders for msrp so can you.
Bingo bro
if its not ur problem that they have to lower prices to get there money back....same goes to them.....its not there problem u or we cant afford the new market price....im buying BB for 100-120 which i dont mind paying for these next sets.....its simple if u cant afford it then dont buy....just like going to any store and trying to get a $1000 item but the companies pay $50 to make it.....that should apply ur mind of thinking if u believe they shouldnt raise there prices......supply and demand very simple.....its like food now is 30% higher but every1 is still paying the price....🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
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These stores act as if they dont earn when selling msrp when in fact they alrdy earn a certain percentage when selling at MSRP😂 sadly stores r trying to act like scalpers nowadays too
You're not wrong
Brother, his entire premise is wrong 😂
I love that you teach me, I understand the market better because of you and you have a commitment to your people to get the facts out there. And worse of all the normal price stores a always out due to scalpers buying them out and reselling for 150 a box for Japanese box of Pokémon Eevee
Thanks, glad you're learning!
But why shouldn’t the stores sell them above MSRP? Theres no exploitation until somebody buys it. Nobody should buy it at 2x msrp if they do then thats the consumers fault. Wait until its reprinted and then buy. If you can’t get it at msrp then tough. No store is responsible for the market price and i’m a consumer saying this. I have got some at msrp and maybe i wont get all i asked. Move onto the next set then. There is no such thing as store scalping. If the stores sold under msrp then someone would buy then scalp.👌🏼
Very good take and counter arguments to the "hypocrisy"
ty ty
It’s not gouging…..either they sell at market or they get bought out in 5 min and then whoever got those products will just resell R market and make the money, someone will make that profit, might as well be the stores. And as always if you don’t like the price then DONT buy it.
This man ❤🎉
I wish I would have bought more base and paldea booster boxes when they were cheap like that
P.s. did you see target is using market price on 151 products? That's one way to stop the scalpers! Lol
Prolly a 3rd part seller on target
My card shop I always went to always did MRSP. He was the best. He passed away sadly... He never upped the prices for his products simply because the item was popular. I had to find a new card shop to pre order at. I already ordered two ETBs from the poke center, but I wanted one of each of the $10 tins, since I wanted them in my collection. This new place I go to now... $20 for one small tin. :/
It sucks.
Thank you for the reality check.
lgs sell cheap for their benefit otherwise people wont buy. it's mutually beneficial, but selling way over msrp is a cause for anger.
I agree with you TCG in Australia is now charging 150 a box it’s a joke especially concidering it’s not even out in Australia yet I found 2 days earlier it was 139.00 and the week before that it was 100.00 per box they are ripping people off before it’s even out
Fusion strike, Paldea Evolved and S&V were trash ass releases lol no one wanted those. A retail store should not be selling over msrp considering they are buying at cost...
Keep doing what you're doing brother. May the Lord continue to bless you.
Thanks, appreciate it!
No one is forcing these stores to dump their product you are right. Fortunately no one is forcing these stores to sell under market praise the lord!
OK So Timmy’s response to the first thing was “well stores didn’t have to sell those products for that cheap” right ? You’ve CLEARLY never run a business before if a product sits on a shelf ITS COSTING THEM $$$ every day it sits ! I honestly could keep going on how dumb that statement is but anyway I’m just gonna turn it around on you but mine actually makes sense People DONT HAVE TO buy these products nobody HAS to buy Pokemon cards . But stores HAVE to move product! nonetheless It’s their business they can charge whatever they want . You don’t like it don’t buy it! It really couldn’t be more simple really don’t understand taking the time & effort to think up, to create, then edit a video whining about prices that stores are charging holy crap store’s & businesses are trying to make $$$ does that concept just blow your tiny mind away ? 😂 STUNNED stores want $$$ Holy crap 🤯🤯🤯🤯
make people not want to shop there ??? Dude come on most people are sheep they’ll completely forget about all this ! Do you actually THINK about the 💩that falls out of your mouth ? Let’s see if you get this : Your an idiot, your an idiot, your an idiot, your an idiot who has no idea what there actually talking about CLEARLY! Holy 💩 could we should we ?? Please tell me WHY is it “wrong” for stores to do this Timmy 😂 if people are paying these prices (which they clearly ARE or they wouldn’t be charging them!) please tell me why that’s “wrong” as a business stand point ? & no I’m going to accept “Umm Umm it’s wrong” also not accepting “people will stop shopping there” I’ve already answered that ! Sheeple are just gonna stop going to Wa-mart huh BULLSHIT ! it would literally be stupid & bad business not to be charging prices that people are clearly willing to pay. Hey dumbass Lose lose Hmm most stores have in small writing your not allowed to cancel preorders again just more 💩 falling out ! Oh wow seriously you could not have ended this 💩 show of a video proving my point any better you end it saying “WHY when I make an unscripted video there’s more problems” WOW I hopefully don’t even have to answer that ? WOW just WOW Welcome to the 💩show people! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I do want to make this clear does it suck when prices go up like this…? Hell yes what am I doing about it…? Not whining about it & making dumb ignorant rants on a public forum ! I’m just waiting till the price drops cause it will. So what stores are doing right now I just don’t give a 💩👍
P.S. there is no god, grow 🆙
Sounds like I struck a nerve.
Good.
It’s supremely messed up when stores do This.
Hard stop.
If you wanna presale, combine the hot item with 2 stale items and get msrp sales on them all.
Save product for actual release.
Lots of ways to do it.
Is it illegal? No. Is it ok to tell the truth of the situation and choose not to support stores that do this? Yup. Cuase there are PLENTY of stores choosing NOT to do this, and finding other ways to make it fair.
Also, there IS a God
@@DrApplesauceTwoI don’t agree with charging those outrageous prices. But, I’ve had to raise the price on my Surging Sparks packs because of how much the distributor charged us and made us buy product they can’t sell(we can’t either). When you make videos like this, it hurts LGS’s. It’s not necessarily your fault, but people automatically think that when a store charges more it’s because they’re “scalping”. Not every time. Some distributors will charge stores more if the market is high. Not only is the extra product they make us buy not going to sell, we have to pay taxes on it as well. We get screwed every which way we turn. The amount of taxes we pay alone is insane. Then people want us to sell them booster boxes for less than what we pay for them. UA-camrs inexperience with running businesses has really hurt a lot of LGS’s. Streamers are the worst though. If you truly are so concerned about people spending too much money on Pokemon, that’s where you should be focusing your attention on. I mean, spending $100 on an etb is nothing compared to spending hundreds on rip til hits and rip and ships. Big box stores will always get a ton of product, streamers are getting 10x what local stores are getting, LGS’s are the ones always getting screwed. We’re damned if we do, we’re damned if we don’t. We can’t win. Since, you listen to Rudy so much, he says there’s no money in running an LGS these days. He’s right. We don’t make a lot of money on sealed product. We(our store) sell our booster boxes way under MSRP and our etbs at MSRP. People still complain and want us to sell for less than what we paid on them. Some stores don’t have the money to hold on to these products until they sell. They have to try and recoup any amount they can get, even if it’s at a loss. Shrouded Fable is a set that may take us years to get rid of. We have to buy as much as possible though, so when sets like Prismatic come out we can get a decent allocation. We still aren’t getting enough to meet demand. Not even close. Your friends owning an LGS, and you owning an LGS, are not the same. You don’t really know until you actually do it yourself. Especially, if you have a lot of competition. People just don’t get it, and these types of videos make it worse. You’re not keeping stores “in check”. The stores that are doing this won’t be affected by your videos at all. It’s the small stores that do right that get hurt by this. If they have to raise the price of a product because of their distributor, they get rang through the mud. Told they’re lying, get called scalpers. It’s outrageous. Sometimes, it seems like we’re better off not restocking the product. Then, we lose, because we can’t compete with other stores because we don’t have the product. People are just tired of the rhetoric surrounding game stores. Rambling done.
I bet you bought Latios & Latias GX for $100 and once the card got hyped you sold it for $1000 to some poor little kid with cancer who saved up for a year by chimney sweeping after their chemotherapy sessions to be able to complete their master set. As Greta Thunburge would say “How dare you!”
Never owned a Latios & Latias GX, and as someone who’s family and siblings battled with cancer as a little kid, and say other young children lose their battles to cancer, your comment is disgusting.
Let's go my beloved friend ❤❤❤
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@@BlackClover_13 😂
Brother, the only one who doesn’t get it is you. It’s not about should or shouldn’t. It’s about basic economics man. Supply and demand. There is no good and bad here. There are only the markets. The FREE markets. If there’s a real problem, the market will identify and correct.
I appreciate the video. Always good to see how the other side is thinking so you can act accordingly and move correctly. Keep your friend close… 🤣
Glad you’re getting something out of it😂
Lol...clueless is definitely not how I would describe you Dr. A. Game stores will make a profit at MSRP. Merry Christmas and God bless you & the family!
Merry Christmas!
Sorry saucy don't agree with ya here. If people are dumb enough to pay overs then bad luck. If morons didn't pay it guess what they'd lower their prices. It's good for the Japanese market too. I'll keep watching ya mate ❤
no one is forcing you to buy it it at above msrp either....
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We are all Timmy’s 😜
Yeah Safari Zone and Forge and Fire have been charging market price rather than MRSP. I will never shop from them again.
Yeah ok right up until they have some fire deal right ?
@@BlackClover_13 they had deals on Stellar Crown and refused to buy from them. It’s about principle!
Really really shocked to see that tbh
Just boycot them
Sorry bud, but I have to disagree. This sounds like a cop out of an answers. Form your logic, no one is forcing anyone to buy them at those higher prices also.
yep, agreed. That concept is implied when I say people CAN wait till later to buy
Being a Christian doesn't mean you just let people walk all over you. What a strange take by them.
Bingo
Who are the 2 hater channels?
Crying about prices and you knew it was going to happen that’s crazy should’ve secured yours while you had a chance.. I did
I secured everything I wanted at msrp.
Not sure what you’re on about
Welcome to capitalism
A Pokémon card business should be allowed to sell at the market price. As long as they are not doing anything illegal.
Like I said, there’s a difference between could and should
@@DrApplesauceTwo & like I said that’s an ignorant comment !
You are completely right ridill2293
Black Clover spoken like a true scalper 😜
This comment is correct. Stores SHOULD sell at market price, preorder or not.
This whole video is just a long winded way of whining about high prices.
I just don’t shop with them anymore.
Yep
Sure you don’t 😂
@@BlackClover_13 you ok? 😂
You should’ve ordered when the pre-orders were up at GameStop and Pokémon center like I told you guys. But of course no one ever listens and they know it all just like you lol and how are you going to say people are going crazy over Pokémon when that’s all I see in your background?😂😂
I preordered what I want for MSRP already. So I’m not sure whos chops you’re trying to bust. And if ALL you see in my background is Pokemon, you have really bad observation skills, there’s way more than Pokemon on display.
I am very observant. You get my point. you can’t call people weirdos and you collect things too.. you’re very argumentative you should’ve ignored my comment I bet you have problems with your girlfriend if you even have one because you talk like you’re the girl always crying and complaining when you’re going to buy the sh!t anyway
Patience is the key to success totally agree with you my beloved friend ❤❤❤
So true!
I know that I’ve said it before but it’s worth saying again that your intro is amazing
No it’s not!
@ how is it not?
Awesome video people will give there opinions and thoughts about people it doesn't define you keep doing you!
Appreciate it!
This old man lies, this kind of behavior is what is ruining the Pokémon hobby. We have too many old lying men who will do anything for Pokemon cards, they have no morals or no remorse. They want money that is all, if boxes go down then all the stores complain they lose margin it’s just dumb. Nobody wants to listen to stores complain they need to stop crying and sell cards.
@DrApplesauceTwo : you actually hearted this dumbass comment ? Why am I surprised ??¿?
This guy’s face pisses me off
Man I apologize, I can’t help if my face looks nicer than what you see in the mirror every day. I’ll try to be better
Thank you for this video. Need more people speaking the truth. ⚡🐇💪
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Everything is truth what you say ❤❤❤
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@@DrApplesauceTwo wow I didn’t think anybody would say something more dumb than what was just said in this video 😂
By that mentality....No one is forcing consumers to buy at the elevated prices. This hobby is a luxury. If you cant afford it, maybe its a sign that the consumer should step back and think about the purchase and or step away until the Sports and/or TCG market calms down. 🫠🫡
L take
@@DrApplesauceTwo much can be said the same about yours. I guess we're in the same boat.
@@DrApplesauceTwoYours is the L take. Even Rudy understands markets. He doesn’t like the word scalper, and said if you can an etb for $99.99 that that’s a good deal. Danny made a good video on this the other day. You seem to be in the minority. By all means, keep making these videos.
You’re really exposing your lack of knowledge on this issue.