Rianne van de Ven - Gifted Adults at Work. Mensa Foundation Colloquium 2022

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  • @MikeFuller-d4d
    @MikeFuller-d4d Місяць тому

    I am in the 'High Average' range of intelligence but I respect people who are gifted.

  • @DrLauraRPalmer
    @DrLauraRPalmer 9 місяців тому

    Thank you my dear!

  • @Cathy-xi8cb
    @Cathy-xi8cb 5 місяців тому +1

    Gifted adults retire. You will too, Rianne. Time for the WHOLE lifespan. Gifted adults end up in assisted living and nursing homes.

  • @claudiamanta1943
    @claudiamanta1943 Рік тому +6

    25:16 I am not gifted, but this section hit hard. It will forever puzzle me why some managers feel threatened. It makes sense to use me in a mutual beneficial way. Surely, one doesn’t need a big IQ to see this (do they?). 😕

    • @victorygarden556
      @victorygarden556 8 місяців тому +2

      Win win deals, aka positive sum games, are for smart people. Dumb people get the edge by playing zero sum, win lose, because you can do so immediately and once you have power you just entrench it. You’re more of a risk to them personally than you are an asset because they’re incompetent so they have to drag you down with them.

    • @claudiamanta1943
      @claudiamanta1943 8 місяців тому

      @@victorygarden556 Thank you, it makes some sense. However, I don’t know everything and I am not infallible…and, to be fair, they’re not rubbish 100%. I got that attitude from them even when I genuinely asked for their advice and support (which, in their eyes, would have put be below them, so to speak). It baffles me.

    • @victorygarden556
      @victorygarden556 8 місяців тому

      @@claudiamanta1943 a bow of the head doesn’t quell their inadequacy when honestly judges against you in a juxtaposition. You might love Robert Greene’s books on power. For a dip in you could see him on Jordan or mikhaila Peterson’s podcast

  • @Discovery_and_Change
    @Discovery_and_Change 10 місяців тому +4

    2:18 skip intro

  • @masquescroto
    @masquescroto Рік тому

    Loved it

  • @RenoirB
    @RenoirB Рік тому +3

    At 00:23:20, yup. We're potentially in an as an hostage situation to the good will of the manager
    At 00:37:00, self-employed, satisfaction. But also in context of wide spectrum of interests. In my case, building things for the web, I saw back in 2000 the need for mastery over the data layer as much as the human computer interface. Around 2008 I was said while looking for contract opportunities that I was "master of none". (Oh! 00:37:42)Today it's called "Full-Stack developer". Often not covering what I can cover.
    At 01:07:40 "(...) asking if there are studies about 2e adults and social interactions". My take: Some conflicts, to my experience as a 2e adult, is more because of the need to "work like the others" and "perform as much as the others". But the problem is a disconnect because the ways of working and strategies used to perform well, are forbidden. So we can get recruited after having seen our work, but are forbidden to use what we need. Even IQ tests results are too complex, with a bug outlier

    • @sunway1374
      @sunway1374 10 місяців тому +1

      I have no idea what you are trying to say. Maybe you are too smart for me. But you need to understand that communicating in writing is different from just writing out the stream of your thought.

    • @RenoirB
      @RenoirB 10 місяців тому +1

      @@sunway1374​​⁠a sure thing, both requires writing out. Writing thoughts is (I assume) the first step, probably during which some filtering and sorting is happening, then organizing. Evaluating the possible interpretations, planning towards desired interpretation.
      I don’t think I’m that smart or anything. I’m saying it’s a struggle for some to do this, people often overlook that. Or forget.
      It’s not temporary. Over time people can get exhausted to “see” someone like as of they’re unpacking all their drawers “at random”.
      Then the actual costs. Problem at work caused by frustration of communication issues often seen as “new” and they’d say “why are you so intense right now”.
      It’s like having a really high definition image, but people are used at seeing the JPEG for the Web file size (few kilobits, not full resolution)

  • @psikeyhackr6914
    @psikeyhackr6914 9 місяців тому

    Where are the "gifted" suggesting that accounting/finance be mandatory in the schools for everyone.

    • @askani21
      @askani21 Місяць тому

      Nowhere. Because it's not a good idea loll