The Gifted Adult | Lynn Berresford | TEDxTauranga
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- Lynn speaks to her experiences as an gifted person and describes the unique challenges faced by people with high IQ. The gifted's propensity towards perfectionism and their attraction to extremes should be carefully managed to ensure their talents have a life-enhancing effect.
Lynn Berresford is a psychologist with over 40 years of experience, and lives in Auckland, New Zealand. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx
This is great!
I am a gifted 19 year old, and for me this constant state of hyper awareness and hyper analysis can cause horrible things. Depression, anxiety, constant burn outs, failure in school.
The only thing that helped is being teached how to cope by a fellow gifted individual!
Yeah hyper awareness is annoying for me as well, which is why I try to block out a lot of things daily 😩
I am feeling all those horrible things right now. Just looked up info so I can deal with it in a better way.
failure in school??? how so ???
Also what makes someone gifted🤔
Girly Sheeny its diagnosable by neuropsychologist and neuropsychiatrists, lots of tests to calculate IQ and evaluate various skills.
Thank you for this insightful video! I was diagnosed with intellectual giftedness at the age of 11, but was told very little information about it. A few months ago, I decided to look into it (at the age of 23). These characteristics made so much sense and, for most of these, I didn’t know they were related with my giftedness. For example: perfectionnism, sensory hypersensitivity (smells, sounds, etc.), emotional hypersensitivity, strong sense of justice, tendancy to overthink a lot, etc. Intellectual giftedness is so much more than a high intellectual potential, it is a non-neurotypical wiring of the brain that affects the socioaffective aspects of life.
I noticed it’s difficult to find other people like me, because we don’t want to be labeled as different or we don’t want to seem like we are bragging about our potential. There is also the misconception that everything comes easy to us, when in fact, we live in a society that is designed for neurotypical people, not us.
Sounds like autism!
Many gifted people have autism.
Sounds about right
If i may, what kind of stuff helped you with the 'problems' that comes with giftedness? I can find almost nothing online on how to cope with these issues.
"I do not like being told what to do. Or how to do it." Perfect summary of my problem with many professional assignments 😬
I never got diagnosed but when I first learned about the concept of gifted adults and zebras, I felt like I finally understood myself. All the hurt, the feeling of not belonging, of being odd, of people telling me I "think too much", that I "over-complicate things", that "it's not that important, just let it go", all of it made sense. Everything Lynn mentioned hit home so hard. Knowing allowed me to understand who I am, but it's still hard to navigate through life, because, as she said, I often feel like I can understand and explain my emotions and thoughts but I don't have any control over them. It can get extremely hard and frustrating. Just knowing I'm not alone makes it all easier though. Thank you for this talk. I needed to hear that today. Lots of love !
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I was thinking exactelly the same, i needed to hear this lovely grandma
Amen 🙏🏼
Or you could have autism.
So familiar...
This womans body language and the way she speaks makes me instantly like her.. what a great speaker and interesting personality
This lady explains so carefully I want to hug her.
Whats tricky about giftedness is that yes, every individual is different and might have particular specific talents, but what we are discussing is a interdisciplinary mental scaffolding that seems to provide extraordinary ability irrespective of how that ability is exactly utilized.
In other words, I think of giftedness as the “Renaissance Man,” with large cognitive ability and acumen to use.
There definitely are differences that make someone slightly prefer science over music
But as a “gifted” person myself, what strikes me is how SIMILAR the two ideas are: im a biochemist and a music director. And what I learn in one feild helps me in the other.
That, I think, might be where the giftedness lies. Not in my ability to achieve greatness in either respect (my vocal ability is good, but not transcendent or anything), but my ability to use all of my learned knowledge, all my cognitive ability, towards any new task. The theory of Ideal Gasses influences my appreciation of music shape and structure.
Yea man. It’s called G, a psychological concept that was made as a consequence of the observation that one who would score good on one type of test, would score high ranking on any other type of test. Essentially, G is pattern recognition, which is what iq tests test for, and explains the generalized potential of an individual. If this peaks your interest and you want to learn more, I’d recommend Jordan Peterson psychology lecture on intelligence, the 2017 one. He’s a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto and he explains the idea so succinctly
i'd be fascinated to hear your take on how to connect biochemistry concepts to musical ones.
Can you share how you relate biochem to music?
Agreed. I see it as the ability to apply the principles/concepts of any field of learning to another. Thereby 'creating' knowledge do to speak.
One thing no one talks about, being gifted, is the external pressure of being labeled as such and having all your mentors believe that you will change the world. Definitely a huge weight on my shoulders, fighting against insecurities because I'm no Einstein yet.
Exactly, let gifted folks live the life they want, if you want the world to change, do it yourself, don’t expect others to change it for you /nbh
Right? My neighbor was so upset I didn't go into the sciences but instead the arts ;)
People usually learn pretty early on not to draw attention to how smart they are. People will find out eventually (if they're paying attention), but i the mean time, you can simply avoid a lot of that extra pressure.
Exactly! I wish as a kid in the programs we were actually explained to more that our brains are just wired a little differently rather than being praised for being little geniuses. Or the smart kid in the family. For my entirety of k-12 th, because they never really told us what it means to be “gifted” I always assumed it was grades and academics ( never considered the emotional intelligence aspect, creativity, etc) I placed so much worth into my grades because that’s what I thought it meant to be gifted and be praised as a kid. As a kid acknowledgement and praises I associated as love from family and who doesn’t want to feel loved? Anyways fear of bad grades, means not gifted, means not acknowledging worth , not feeling loved. As a kid and growing up this was rooted deep since elementary. Anyways got into uni, pursued engineering, hit in the face by classes and drop in grades, negativity impacting self perception.
It also leads to burnout. Many of us seek alternatives and accept lameness because we grew tired of the pressure.
I tested as gifted in the 8th grade. I also suffered with untreated mental health issues. By highschool I began having behavior issues. In the 10th grade the school suggested that I should drop out. I am an unsuccessful artist now. However I absolutely love learning.. psychology and philosophy are some of my favorite subjects. Math however is impossible
math is an exact science ultil you get that numbers are abstract and it can never be true; I think you think it's impossible because you see no point in it, just as I; but I also think that someday we might see it in a way to answer questions we have not yet crossed in our path.
cause if it's real, as a whole, it can be connected. We just have to find a link.
Schools learning path is terrible and we, curious people, need to understand what we know, so as they failed to make us like it, one day we will learn it's usage, just like with everything we learn.
Check out the Embracing Intensity podcast and the book, Refuse to Choose!
Never tested as any thing. But I have always connecting been connect the dots between subjects, very intuitive, quite, went to college, each time with a different major. Got my Teaching degree at 60 and am retired now. I loved working out integrated lesson plans. And I used music classes later to integrate academics into the music lessons and visa versa. That was my niche. Like you in was very challenged when it came to math. I would wonder if the formulas were correct, how they knew the answers were correct, were the sure the questions were correct in the first place. Where was the proof except in more numbers. Geometry proved to me that math is taught backwards. I still believe that the first math should be learning all the shapes first then moving gradually into math. Even the simple arithmetic could be taught by knowing the angles of the shapes and the relationships between the shapes. Loved Fractals!
Keep strong! I hope you succeed as an artist.
It’s not uncommon to be gifted in one thing and not in others. Less-known is that learning disabilities can and do coexist with giftedness. I have dyscalculia and I’m gifted.
I'm shocked! My son was having problems at school and when I was looking for a diagnosis I realized that we have the same "issue", we are both gifted. I'm investing in therapies for him so he don't replicate my journey.
My story is much like the one you told: brilliant at school, awful at college, I graduated but hated to work with engineering. Now I sell tiaras,
I have the gifted curse. But, in that i've learned to keep busy, create, journal, bake, knit, sew and have lots of quiet time alone or in nature to rest my busy mind. It's a wonder and a lot of work, can be exhaustive. One younger sister recognized me being gifted.
I've watched this video and read so many stories that are all too relatable
Without getting into many details, I've somehow managed to manage the "negatives" of giftedness with forgiveness and contextualisation of circumstances within the world of performing arts.
I still get frustrated with shortcomings but also knowing that I'm doing the best I can/I'm allowed to any given circumstance and direction. Learning self awareness and forgiveness were my greatest tools in navigating a world that won't quite get how my brain works or how it has been affected by trauma down the line. I'm tired of being angry, so just find yourself a kinder tide, a group of people that don't mind how complex your thoughts can get and change the perspective on yourself to an image you like
I am very passionate about music, philosophy, literature, art, and specific topics of discussion. I was a nurse and went back to school and now getting my masters in social work. I am a really good writer and have been published in literary magazines. I feel like people are not passionate in life and are just going about each day without truly living. I cry if I feel a powerful emotion even when not happy or sad. People are boring and I have a hard time connecting to others due to them being boring.
Ahhh. I loose intrest in person in less than few hours. Thus my social life drags. I write, paint, gave two UA-cam channels and a mess of mental health.
I suggest watching this video at x1.25
MR MONGUER WTF 😂
Thank you😂😂😂
Thanks man . now the video feel s normal
@@manout-kidin8735 Xd
I did : )
If the world were filled with as many gifted people in the comment sections of videos like these, who knows how it would look like
Soothing, like a therapy session. Never heard a person communicate this openly.
This is life saving for some of us out there; I have always felt alone and misunderstood - this talk pointed out a lot of the why, helped reflect on things objectively. A good presentation!
I only started to be really happy after being "discovered" when I was 35 years old. After that, my life changed, I accepted myself as I am and got aware of my real capabilities and defects. Now I can understand those moments wheb I felt depressed, anxious and when I failed... Now I'm in peace and enjoy my life as I can...
This speaks to my inner core. Thanks for the mind expanding talk.
I'm 29 and have just found out a month ago that I'm gifted because I got a chance to study early childhood gifted education. I could predict things when I was a baby (didn;t even start talking), but I remember the self talk voice in my head until today. It sounded the same as my self talk voice now. I never liked or enjoyed going to school because the educational system, doing boring and meaningless assessments. Then I dropped school when I was 12 because I found the society system is meaningless as well.. Everything was not stimulative for me. Nothing fit me. I became super rebellious etc.. I didn't feel like I belong to my family, my home, the culture, the country and the world. The world is designed for "typical" people to spend their life for making money and spending money. Then they get old and die and byebye. Thats a life. But gifted people want meaning, having the opportunities to explore, spontaneity and breakthrough beyond. Thats what learning and life is about. How could gifted people can thrive in life when they dont even have the opportunities to fully be themselves because the world not fit them? And for sure gifted children and adults struggles with existential depression because they couldn't even exist in the world. There needs to have more flexibility, more awareness of ppl with individual needs, and be more inclusive that not only "typical" people get to enjoy life, but every unique individual is able to blossom in their own way because everyone deserves and has their rights to. So that those hyper brains are not concerned as problematic or difficult anymore. They can be a blissed, tremendous advocacies and contributions.
Now what are you doing in life
Beautifully said
I do very well when I am not in a classroom full of students. I learn and work alone. I cannot think learn and work where there is people around me. My giftedness comes out when I think learn and work alone
Even if being gifted causes me depression for over analysing things, I wouldn't change myself. The world needs to change, it is true that it's superficial, and gifted people are better at exploring solutions unlike regular people who tend to stand still and not find a root to our problems.
I’m a gifted 36 year old- tv actor and jet pilot- I basically have no friends as everyone finds me intolerable - was just diagnosed yesterday- this all makes perfect sense
I tend to get away from people because I can't be myself and they don't understand me, being alone is much more comfortable
What a great video. My IQ is ok. In the late 120's. I am halfway through a psychology degree, but my special gift is in visual art. I have always been head and shoulders above almost anyone else I've studied art with. It's always been me and another person. Tall poppy syndrome isn't fun.
Your IQ is great! I’m high average at 44 years old and saw that some of the questions on general knowledge were skewed to those outside my culture. There are other ways to measure giftedness that aren’t found in intelligence tests. Search overexcitabilities to gain more insight. Finally, if you’re twice gifted, your disability may damper your score.
This is a reminder and a commitment to share this talk with friends. Gifted behaviour is unexpected almost always.
I was tested at an early age when I was 6 years old by a school psychologist. Gifted in visual spatial skills, music and a very deep independent thinker with many interests. Giftedness and high intelligence is in my family. I came from a well educated family of military scientists doctors with phds on my father side. One of them is a war hero back in World War One.
I'd like to recommend to anyone who stumbles onto this comment the book Someday Angeline by Louis Sachar. I think it's the most faithful portrayal of giftedness in fiction, ever.
I just read this book based on this comment. (Binged on a couple hours, because I'm that type of gifted person lol) So amazing. Thank you for that.
@@KNRK379 Another good novel about giftedness is "The Untouchable Juli".
Amazing lady, mentor and teacher. So good to know you and your lovely son :)
Thank you for sharing this amazing info, I appreciate it and I enjoyed it. First time I hear about this. I'm gifted in music. However not living it. When I was young I taught myself how to play my musical instruments. I stopped playing my musical instruments because life happened. Playing made me happy! Then here I am now 58 because life has flown by so fast, yet, still feeling the urge to become a great musician. If not a great musician at least a good one. I just want to enjoy playing and that good feeling of excitement when I had learned a new note when I use to play when I was young. I feel depressed and anxious about everything I do in life. Especially that now I am 58 years young. Nevertheless, I feel young even though I am 58. I feel horrible, disconnected and incomplete, but, appreciate life even though not knowing who I am. This I figured because I am not living my gifts, my calling. I have not accomplished any. But, I will. Trying to be optimistic. It's just been hard.
HappyTimesVan Start playing again. Sounds like you feel unbalanced. I pursued a certain line of studies, very left brain. But I do have a strong creative side. So when I was feeling "off" I would spend an afternoon sketching. Just hours and hours sketching something in nature. Observing curves and lines and shapes and depth and contrast, and putting it on paper. I felt so much better afterwards. Like I could hold my head up straight since my brain was balanced now and not heavier on the left, haha
Van, get back to it. You don't have to hang "gifted musician" above your head, just play, let it flow, and enjoy it.
In my teenage years I heard from people around me: " oh dear, you're gifted, so sorry for you, your life is going to be so uneasy, different people just don't fit in...Here I am, wouldn't like to be any different!
Yours is the first comment that I found positive (yes I was going through each comment). Tell me more! Are you happy? Successful? What helped you?
I got labeled as gifted when I was like 3 or 4 when my mom got a call from the kindergarten to ask her if she knew I could read (she didn't) and upside-down lol. I had asked my father how some letters sounded together and figured the rest on my own. Thing is I am 29 years old now and I feel so bad about myself for not having a degree. I changed majors after one year from Arts to Math then dropped out the next year, I was 20 then. But even if I were to try now there's nothing I am interested in and it weighs on me because I feel like I won't ever amount to anything and people will look down on me for not having a degree and I also feel that my time is up.
I am gifted too (been labeled as such when I was 11). What are your interests? Do you like math, science, reading, writing, arts, helping people, etc.? I know you feel like you don’t have any interests, but deep down, there must be at least 1 thing that interests you, no matter how small!
Pursuing your passions doesn’t necessarily have to be through school, it can be through leisure. Or if you want to attend college, make sure you do it because you really want to, not because of society’s expectations. I understand that you feel like it’s « too late » for you to take a new path, but it is not. You have your whole life ahead of you! I wish you the best of luck ❤️
what a brilliant talk! It felt like she was sliding powerpoints, the cards in her hands and if you took a photo of the card it had an image or diagram that conveyed the point pristinely. She covered a lot of ground, mainly by being concise like first she started with the volume of dendrites but also the unique problems of highly gifted like difficulty learning (because of easyness) and the extreme nature of giftedness like being too perfectionist.
Thank you I'm a disengage, thanks to you, from trying to know what is it that I don't get from PG people. Maybe it's better I donut.
Can make the world overwhelming, on the whole it’s wonderful.🙏
I think the characteristic of giftedness is actually learning how to enjoy learning in standardised curricula, not learning overall.
Gifted people enjoy learning and very curious overall.
Yes, generally we enjoy learning... Duh. Our minds are always hungry for knowledge and understanding how little we know. However, I made a 95 or higher on every exam before college with simply memorizing the lesson. The lesson that lasted a week or two... Learning before college was almost slow. I had no understanding of how to consistently study beyond just looking over my notes, then I began getting C’s. C’s threw me into mental chaos. I made a C on my first calculus exam... I was going drop out but reasoned with myself to try harder. Ended the course with an A.... Of course we love learning, but it’s so difficult to after everything for 12 years was as easy as 1+1=2.
Being gifted in some way, whether it's in math or even being very attractive physically, is potential. It's not a guarantee of success, or anything else.
Hello everyone I just wanted to say that I'm from france and here we call people "gifted" as HP or "high potential" or "zebras". Now i have find out that I was an HP person at the age ou 19 and it really helped me figured out a lot of things in my life that I deemed not going right. I recommend any young adults like me that always have felt different out place and out of touch with others to do a IC "Intellectual check" because it can open doors for you where you see walls today.
Omg but idk how so
We dont have those type of "intellectual checks" in india and my mind has caused me a lot of problems cause i constantly feel that i dont belong among my people
Hey, I did mine recently in France too, and my neuropsychologist told me she had no doubts that I am HPI. Made so much sense to me. I’m in my first year of psychology.
@@ketchumuu how old are you now?
I relate to this on so many levels. Wonderful presentation!
I always felt like I was diagnosed with being gifted rather than it ever being a boon to me.
I either got treated like an experiment or a problem when I started shirking the system in anger.
Now here I am trying to finally accept what I have stifled for so long.
What sets smart people apart from gifted is compassion and independence.
Interesting talk, I was tested in Kindergarten and placed in Gifted & Talented.
Thank you for this gift; really helpful 😊
Teachers found out I was a gifted child in 3rd grade and made me go to a special class where they wanted me to learn algebra. The level of expectations on mere were ridiculous. I was smart in some ways but not in other ways such as not being that great at spelling but better than most students at vocabulary. I did go to college at age 16 but dropped out because it required a lot of hard studying. When I was 21 I returned to college and graduated in 2 years with an associates degree. After that I transferred to the University of California Santa Barbara and dropped out after a few quarters because my major Classics was way too boring and I was suffering from a disability issue that made it hard for me to speak. It caused a lot of anxiety because the school wouldn't accommodate my disability when I was told to speak in front of class. Imagine having speech anxiety and a disability of top of that.
My IQ test put me around 165 and I just see my intellect as a tool. Sure you can be proud of a tool but if you don't use it then what good is it? I was able to get financially successful but I had to work really hard such as joining the US army when I was 18. Life for me hasn't been that easy and I didn't become some great scientist inventing things. I worked some very low wage jobs for a long time.
I'll be back in a few centuries for her summation.
You guys know how to handle guilt? Many people in my life are saying I'm talented/gifted and I can't help but feel unworthy for my success. I feel like I'm always in debt to my ancestors (my grandpa is a painter and I'm an illustrator). It feels like I'm living in my grandfather's shadow.
Im not gifted just a normal person
Everyone is gifted in something. Some are great parents... some know how to cheer up people... some create great jokes (or know how to tell them)... everyone has a special side and that's why we are all different.
@@anagner7 that's called being good at something not gifted........we all like to be nice but let's not give out false information ok.
Isa please don’t spread false information, gifted means you have a high iq periodt.
absolutely fine, you can still live a very good live while being normal
I’d like to be like you
7:20 this is exactly what I went through in art school. I've managed to stay in art school for 3,5 years before I finally accepted that I just couldn't do it.
I wonder if the speaker was told, like so many gifted people, to slow down her speaking for this presentation. Even at 1.5 playback speed it was slow at times!
I have been labelled as an expert in computer engineering, software engineering, material science-math, Chemistry and Physics, and soft skills by LinkedIn.
I like that lady!
Thank You....
I was diagnosed as gifted as a 9 yo. Had to see a psychologist for IQ test. I was basically shunned by my peerz. At work as a respiratory therapist i was the walking textbook guy. Hahahaaa. But, lsd was fascinating in order to explore thought process represented in excellent fractals....lol
I just got accepted into Mensa at age 37. Being bad at certain things while being exceptional at others is true. I am good at art, music, math, and logic. Physics and chemistry go over my head. 😂😂😂
👍😊. I am. A bit of a perfectionist . This makes me smile. Thanks.
It seems reasonable to say that anyone high in trait Openness (say top 95 percentile) should be considered gifted. That would cover both those with a high IQ and those who are highly creative.
if this person is gifted then i am super exceptionally gifted
might be
Thanks 😢
thank you so much!
Nice explanation.
I sadly have a bullying experience concerning "giftedness".
I was scapegoated by MELISSA KIRK in an online course Human Design run by company Your PURPOSE, owned by Baeth Davis.
I paid 3500 USD for this. It was advertised as a personality typology teaching, aimed at gifted people. Baeth Davis claims to be gifted and to help highly gifted people to assess their personalities and find their exact niche in their profession.
Baeth Davis had mistakenly advertised that the program will be taught by her.
However, it was taught by some Melissa Kirk. She was advertised a a teacher of Human Design with a certification.
This appeared not to be true.
However, I was bullied in her online course by MELISSA KIRK over a longer period of time.
Baeth Davis had stolen my 3500 USD and does not want to return it. She never responded.
I come from a developing relatively poor country, nothing in comparison to rich American collecting money from some poor people (I apologize for all good American people who are not like Baeth Davis) and I would have expected that when she advertised her program as educational program for talented people that I will be not bullied there.
my IQ is 120. I have researched for the last 10 years to change careers, I think chemistry might be good fit but I need money to study
Just go abroad where there are no student loans, worth it
It’s official, I’m a genius 😩
This video is so accurate. I have soany eureka moments. And then find it hard to paint the picture so that others can see what i see. I can be inconsolable. Dont know if im gifted
When we fail, we are inconsolable 😢
Excellent talk.
I am not gifted at all. As to the other people leaving comments about how boring college was at least you had the ability to go to college.A lot of people can't go to college.
👏👏👏👏 actually this type of video is for first world people trying to find problems. Everyone has a special talent. Everyone was born and will end in the same way.
I had a high IQ and couldn't finish college. It takes more than a high IQ to get that degree.
I actually relate to the big brain thing. I always had a massive forehead growing up and just a big head in general. As I got older my proportions kind of normalised to a certain degree but my head is defos on the big side.
Always thought it was abnormal but I guess I know why.
Thank you so much!!!!!!!
Great stuff
How about grifted ?
Actually learnt something
She has described my experiences of university pretty well. My first attempt I studied Chemistry and the experience was awful. I'm not saying Chemistry is awful, just my over all experience of university was. That was when I was 18 through to 20. My second attempt I was studying Environmental Science and I was 39. I left that due to other reasons though, but I definitely didn't enjoy that experience either. I've never enjoyed learning, I understand it and can write about stuff but to me it's just information to be repeated. And it is kind of boring. And having an incredible urge to do it all! I've often thought there isn't one degree that would cover all the things I'm interested in. But whether or not that makes me gifted, I don't know. I'm sure the whole idea of being a gifted person is a very broad spectrum underwhich a lot of people may fall but not be aware. Even if I was confirmed as being gifted, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't make much of a difference to me. It'd be like knowing that I'm 5 foot 5 inches tall, just another characteristic. Anyway, intersting wee talk.
What you do today?
I am a gifted artist I am not involved in numbers at all or high-end academics I find some intellectual properties snotty and reserved only for the great ones !!! who are usually assholes that work in the system...I am a gifted Musician Singer-Songwriter and Drawer and Painter and I can write a healthy good song I also cook a creative meal amongst other things .....I teach Yoga partime
I love this lady
OMG you just described me I feel so validated right now🙌🏽 Thank you!!! K hate being told what to do and how to do it 😱
ive had several mris my brain is to large for my skull even
Wow... thank you!
We may need understanding from others, but we sure don't get it.
Beautiful.
Intriguing and all true.
I am gifted too.
One day I will talk on your stage. God bless ++++ Diana Anais Safina
That was interesting ty
I am in the bottom 30% in math and the bottom 50% in reading. Students like me, who are told that we aren’t going to go anywhere in life because of our mental capacity, have been forgotten. Schools are built for those who test well, and are “gifted.” How do we fix this
Schools are made for normal students, not the gifted. Many gifted students drop out of school.
If you are health and live in a first world country... you can do and be whatever you want. If you are not doing bad things for yourself and others. The rest... are just people trying to find a group to be part of... or first world problems.
Agreed. From my experience, I really think it starts with training educators and students alike in EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE
Yes I’m going really
I feel as if our understanding of what giftedness encompasses just isn't quite there yet. The emotional component of intelligence and how to properly quantify it just seems lackluster... guess we won't know in my lifetime...
Ahh I agree! And so did philosopher Henri Berger 💗🥹
In a week I went from researching:
"prolonged toxic stress in early childhood development"
to seeing what was REALLY going on in terms of the "someones" in charge of standardizing "normal" as they pass out "developmental disorders" and "diagnosis" left and right -
Then I needed to see what "intelligence" was currently being defined as and by whom. Strangely enough I noticed these "developmental delays" as they call them were also highly sought after traits..?
Then... enter = Henri Beger 💗🥹
The philosopher who realized it WOULD take SOMEONE'S lifetime
to QUALITATIVELY express the emotional significance of our life IN GENERAL.
But as of right now science is strictly mechanic and static and QUANTITATIVE 😢
Numbers aren't quality OF experiences 😢 Which is what we all clearly appear to be STARVING for. Quality of our life experience. ❤️
Berger recognized that the mind and soul are unable to be separated. Advocating for Dualism (without outright saying it)
in the most incredible way I've ever seen!
As you live your life in motion, in-flux, I KNOW you and us all WILL experience the true enjoyment and QUALITY of life
I camt believe I understand 😅 im a bit freaked out by that BUT it's the easiest thing I've ever understood and I jumped like a little girl for hours as I heard this man's late writings ✍️ 🎉
She rocks
Multiple intelligences theory is bunk. Measurement of "g" is not the same as measurements of personality traits or talents. It's a category mistake similar to confusing the bios and operating software with applications and interfaces (display monitors, keyboards, trackballs, etc.).
13thGenPatriot yep duh !!!!!!! thanks for recognising
13thGenPatriot k)I
Why are you talking about g if you're trying to discredit multiple intelligences...? Surely if there were "one intelligence," it would be the general intelligence factor, g?
Not sure about that analogy. Why are you separating g from personality traits and talents? We don't know enough about the brain to say that the "neurological OS" is that decoupled from the applications and interfaces. Quite possible that the aspects of the OS the "gifted" share manifest differently, lending themselves to multiple intelligences but with obviously similar underpinnings.
I have a gifted child, and I guess I was gifted as well, because in elementary school the teacher wanted to put me in "special classes" after I did something he considered odd. I felt like I was getting punished so I worked a deal with him that I'd help the other kids in class rather than be separated from all my friends. In Jr. High I was in the special classes for all my core subjects.Not sure how I would get tested, or how that would benefit me. But it feels like I don't fit in anywhere. I also have one of the more rare Myers-Briggs personality scores. Seems I will never meet anyone like me. Perfectionism, yup.
Lovely
So is she only going to discuss intellectually gifted? There's also creativity, leadership, etc
I've always wondered why the creatively and emotionally sensitively gifted are not discussed as often as the others.
Diagnosed gifted (2nd grade)
First Drug addiction (3rd grade)
First murder (6th grade)
Gets accepted into Harvard (what)
6th grade what???
I-
Many people consider themselves special for *making good grades* that’s so simple, anyone can read a book and regurgitate the info the truly gifted can pass tests *without studying*
Nope. I was diagnosed as gifted in 2nd grade, was regularly tested every couple of years with standard IQ tests, always over 130, and was allowed to use that as an excuse for failing grades. But I could ace any test put in front of me, like a magic trick. Beware of using gifted as the new buzzword to explain your problems. Gifted=Intelligence quotient. Get tested.
How does it feels like to have events magnified. Does it feels scary?
duf reversi it’s not a literally magnification. It’s a subtle thing where in general there’s just a greater introspection and interpretation of all events and that adds up to make scary situations a lot scarier but also any situation a lot more the way it is inherently.
@@dylansmith2550 is it a natural response? Is it because the person has different and stronger reaction to everything that comes into the mind? The person has a different "software" up there?
@@dufreversi42 It's using more parts of the brain at once compared to a neurotypical person due to greater interconnectivity, hence the introspection and processing of surroundings is intensified. The stream of analysis going on is constant and exhausting. Hence most gifted people are introverts and need to recharge in a quiet / familiar setting.
@@TimurTripp2 I think a lot of gifted student end up burnt out early because of the way information form up naturally and they could not stop it. And because they know what was happening and the fact that they are different from the rest of the cohort, and the rest couldn't understand be them, they end up hiding and keeping low profile. Their "gifts" are also a curse. Because what they foreseen, nobody agrees. But yet what they foreseen, frequently end up eerily ... accurate...
@@dufreversi42 Exactly! That is what has been happening to me lately
Although very valuable information...I am frustrated by the speed this lady talks at. Just discovered speed adjustment on youtube...yes...I know it isn't a new concept. Lol
Me too, my Adhd makes her slow manner of speaking difficult to stay focused. I Know about the speed adjustment feature, but I've never tried it, maybe it's time to figure that out 😁
Presenter is a slow talker!
Pretty close to nothing useful for gifted people. As far as I'm concerned, being gifted simply means that you clearly understand how badly you are being screwed by the system.
I tuk 6th grade maths in hi-skool, im gifted 2.
Holy sh- you must be an absolute genius then!
So what exactly is her gift?
Gifted is narcissism+delusion
Talk so boring that I can not finish the video.
A view of herself founded upon erroneous test results from childhood.
HeavyProfessor That happens to a lot of gifted people.
yes its ok to remain unidentified, but Its difficult to adjust within uneducated environment when you have a brain like supercomputer. Its not our fault to be like this.
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IQ 116 Lol! I don't even understand how levers work.