Growing Up with Intensity: Reflections on the Lived Experiences Of Intense, Gifted Adults
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Dr. Szymanski (Toni) is a Mensa member and associate professor at WKU. She received her PhD at the University of Iowa and writes extensively in gifted education.
This video is from a speaker series for Mensa International/ American Mensa.
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This is really interesting. I'm 2e i.e gifted and ADHD. I thought being intense / sensitive was part of my ADHD. Interesting to think in might actually be the giftedness. Or probably a mixture of both! Basically the world is simultaneously too stimulating and not stimulating enough at the same time.
Regarding gaming, I believe it was the only way to truly connect while also diving deep into the experience. When you play well, you become the cool one in the group, and people want you around, unlike how it usually happens in other areas. I think that’s what led me to seek connection and to have my best friend be someone twice my age.
This is what gets us misdiagnosis alot of times similar to how people with bpd get labeled bi ploar .
Also Its seems when one become an adult ,when we feel we need to suppress our intensities especially when having multi or all , creates a air of depression , to where its easier to say depressed, ( because of the conversation of giftedness seem's to upset non gifted people ,)
Especially if we don't have 4 phds or fortune 5 hundred companies as proof
Everyone assumes all gifted people become something impressive, when there are plenty of housewives, criminals, wounded healers out there with giftedness , plenty of drop outs as well especially if the academic environment isn't stimulating or conducive. (but nevertheless due to media people have alot of projected myths and expectations of the gifted , not knowing how much pressure that puts on us when young enough to lead to burnout breakdowns and sometimes worst)
Especially when we are looking for peers to relate to, to find solace in but just because of age that doesn't make someone our peer hence why so many of us gravitate to older people (which can be dangerous for us) because of predators who see us like neon signs as potential victims for abuse
also noone thinks about the gifted kids in the ghettos or Rual areas where giftedness can be seen as a threat even to teachers , especially if there isnt a proper gifted program , they also forget about gifted kids with adverse childhood effect who come from abusive homes and how that will manifest like scapegoats and parentified children . or LGB children who are already outcast and said their giftedness is just being a dramatic homosexual .
As someone who is very intense, and happens to be gifted, this is really interesting. I recently struggled with serious alcohol addiction, and after quitting drinking, my brain is no longer suppressed by the alcohol. I had forgotten just how intense my inner world really is. Without the alcohol depressing my cognitive function, I now feel constantly overstimulated, like there is just so much mental energy but not enough outlets for it, and nowhere I can get a break from it when I need to. I've also needed to smoke weed daily just to go to sleep at night, because no other sleep aid slows down my mind the way weed does, and so I can't maintain any semblance of structure in my life without the sleep that weed allows me to experience.
just got on trazodone and its been helping, otherwise in the same boat
I hear you. I have to have input at all times. I listen to lectures and documentaries for 14 hours a day while I do other things.
I can talk about just about any topic for hours by asking good questions even if I don't know anything about the topic at the outset.
It's really hard to find anyone with the stamina I have. They don't want to "go there" on a lot of subjects as well.
Often, when I ask a question of curiosity, people react with caginess, thinking that I am accusing them of something or auditing their choices. When I'm not doing that at all. I just want to know more.
And this may be unintentional hyperbole, but it really feels like about half the time when I ask a question... the other person gives an answer that is completely unrelated. Either that, or starts explaining the basics of the thing I'm talking about even if I asked a far more specific and detailed question that shows I know a lot about it.
I spend a lot of time dealing with others secretly frustrated and irritated. Which I do feel bad about. But I just don't have the time to humor all of this. It's overwhelming and it's lonely and it blows.
Being alone though, that's really nice.
Is there really only 3k people who figured out this is what they’re going thru..? This is too damn accurate to my life experience. Wtf, how is this so secret, and how tf did I pull thru without this certainty idk
I’m gathering that growing up with “intensity” is the same as being a “Highly Sensitive Person.” I’ve never heard it described as being “intense,” but, indeed, as a “gifted” HSP myself, the terminology of “intense” does fit. Lol. Would have been incredibly helpful in my childhood had my parents known how to serve me and my highly sensitive…”intense” ways of being. As a child, I was incredibly connected to nature, highly intuitive, excelled in and found solace in all of the expressive arts, but mainly felt incredibly alien.
So me!
Thank you for this, speaks a lot to me. 🤗
I was about 27 when I got to know about my giftedness and couldn‘t really believe it due to all the struggles I had. Shouldn‘t I have been able to deal with it being gifted? Additionally I recently got diagnosed with ADHD (at 56) and learned a lot about the ways both can present and have in common.
I am one of those who didn‘t „fail“ in life but probably didn‘t reach my full potential either dealing with all this on my own for so long. The more I can see how important it is to recognize the special needs of gifted and other children and support them to become the best version of who they are.
You‘re doing a great job for them!
My son is highly gifted and very intensely excited. I try my best but it definitely overwhelms me. I need to take breaks from him because I’m an introvert and he overstimulates me 😂😂😂 Sometimes I have to tell him please don’t talk to me and leave me alone, because I’m about to go crazy because of his energy and constant demands 😂. School holidays are really overwhelming times for me. 😂😂😂 (but I love my son just sharing how tough it can get for parents )
Great talk! Thank you for speaking up for us 😊
I'd love to see more research/content into gifted creatives (I am one) vs. the more common STEM-related fields.
We are sorry, but those people are far too powerful and must not be encouraged, per the establishment. ;)
I had a lot of trouble, socially, in high school. I walked the halls feeling like a ghost or a visitor from outer space. I always blamed myself for this condition.
About 10 year later, I took the Miller Analogies Test, the Terman Concept Mastery Test (Form T), and the Mega Test (published in Omni Magazine). I tested comfortably above the threshold score for admission to the Triple Nine Society (top 0.1% of the general population for I.Q.). Then I had a clue regarding the cause of my social alienation.
I really enjoyed this, thanks. Resonated. ❤
Hi! I’m wondering if what you are describing also goes into the autism spectrum? I’m in the process of being diagnosed, waiting for last appointment to get my official diagnostic. The doctor has already told me I’m on the spectrum but he mentioned the word “exceptional”. I have a talent for art, I make hyper realistic paintings but I also have many of the autism symptoms and from what I heard in your video, they are all symptoms I have but I can all find them in the autism symptom definition also. So my question I guess is that I’m wondering if intensity is part of the autism spectrum? I’ve heard the term “twice exceptional”… is that what an autism with giftedness called? Can a gifted person not be on the autism spectrum? Thanks!! Loved your presentation btw 😊
Great!
It has been a horrible experience.
Sorry to hear that. Same.
Nah it’s not that bad guys we get to figure out random things no one else notices. The lows make you stronger as well. End of the day, no matter how intelligent you are, life is only what you make it to be .
Don’t you feel the magic though? How blessed you are with the awareness to take in a vista or another human being? And to interact with these miracles?
@@zachz699 no magic, yes to beautiful views the way the water or wind ripples the sand ,a colorful bug. Mostly manipulation, lies and deception in people. Filtering through it to figure if it's intentional or a nervous reaction or an ill attempt at wanting to be liked.
@@thomasdromey4549 yeah it's nice to figure things out. I'm stuck in downtown Denver on my motorcycle. I have no way to charge my phone. I'd rather figure it out than ask 20 people if they would charge it. So I have a pair of needle nose pliers look around on the ground found a piece of wire sticking out of the ground. About 20 inches long as now if I had a 12 volt car charger. I'm near parking spaces I think that shit falls out all the time so take a little walk and there it is a charger crushed by a car. Jackpot I have 47% on my phone. But then again your expected by everyone to always be able to do everything with nothing.
Are there books you recommend?
Relax
Just the typical life experiences of an INFP.
So true. I wouldn't be surprised if we INFPs are overrepresented among gifted adults
@@darkrebel123 They are.
Was doing fine until the lowest form of humanity under the disguise of professionals where I sought help PURPOSLY wanted me destroyed. I have proof. Me genius, I trusted, was treated mentally ill for decades. Destroyed reputation, life, broke up family of professionals. Functioned with a nice bio. Lived in emotional, bankrupt hell. I take responsibility for my life. Couldn’t believe such people exist. I do excellent now. Decades of working on myself thru facebook. I am strong, resiliant, anti fragile. Told I am not even a 1%er but a minority of one. I can help some people, thru my book. I too did find capacities for joy as I became quite interesting. Did many things in spite of my hell.
This is all so very me, and I only recently learned it all had a name and is associated with giftedness. ua-cam.com/video/buVNXIQj_SY/v-deo.html
Overexcitability??? I could think of a better word. That’s energy to be channeled. Stupid word.