"We're getting our children through education by anaesthetizing them, and I think we should be doing the exact opposite. We shouldn't be putting them asleep, we should be waking them up to what they have inside of themselves." That gave me chills. I really couldn't agree with him more. I can relate to so much of what he says here on a deeply personal level, from firsthand experience. Makes my heart ache. I can't help but wonder what will become of my generation.
Amazing, inspiring... I'm speachless.... Could never believe I would sit in front of a video lecture for 55 minutes when I have exams to study to! This is the one of the most interesting piece of information I have ever recieved. Thank You!!
I love how interdisciplinary this is, how it connects so many aspects in the world and in humanity to remind us how important education is and how we really ought to shift our focus. I don't personally have a solution to fixing our educational systems, but I think that if every educator watched and discussed these kinds of videos, we'd already be halfway there.
His innate happiness combined with a native creative intelligence is so invitingly encouraging! I LOVE Sir Ken's humanity;-) Thank you for sharing this!
This man and Penelope Trunk have some fantastic, innovative ideas about education and the end goals of our cultural push for higher education. I've felt this way for years, long before college.
im glad that someone finally showed me how too say something about the education system. i think everyday that theres something wrong going on here but never came up with the words to say something about it
Never thought a 15-year-old kid from the Midwest could actually be interested in this kind of lecture. But, here I am, and inspired to change a few people's minds about education if I ever get the chance.
Very inspirational, witty and funny. I like this guy more than most standup comedians. Sir Robinson makes me think of Célestin Freinet and his view on education. This talk shows the true genius of Freinet, who had similar ideas almost 90 years ago.
Sir Ken Robinson has this ability that he describes of divergent thinking, he is able to conceive of effects that the education system has on younger people based on their experiences of the new world without taking it for granted that the only way to succeed is to be better than someone in a linear manner. We are naturally competitive but also naturally infinite, it is ridiculous to reduce ourselves to other peoples' expectations or concepts of brilliance.
having worked in child care and ed for nearly 20 years, his ideas that arts are being denegrated are absolutely on pointe. There are so many ways to teach history, science and general studies thru music/dance/art which is more accessible to children who not so 'academic' but many children who fall into this 'sphere' can later find themselves able/interested in just those higher academic spheres.. know the life values of your students, and teach them accordingly!!!
People who do their best to make education work, do not like to hear they are "killers of creativity". When they are in a bad mood, they might thumb down out of sheer frustration. My kid also thumbs down videos for strange reasons, e.g. "hard to understand" :) … I am guilty too. I mis-click from time to time :)
Somehow i have to admit you go beyond common comprehension with extreme cuteness. God is with you as you see the enriched human paradigm for what it is
Education is such a wonderful thing, it's probably one of the greatest abilities of humanity! To communicate ideas in order to help each other evolve as individuals, and to see the love of such a thing systematically destroyed in nearly every kid I've met is a fucking tragedy
Sir Ken was the keynote speaker at the 2011 AMS Montessori Conference. He is a supporter of that model. Of course, he can not support it exclusively because various students will need specialized interventions and different approaches to meet their needs. Nevertheless, the Montessori model was created to support independence, intelligence, critical thinking skills, and the development of self-discipline, while also celebrating community, culture and creativity. Sir Ken is one of our heroes!
this video is absolutely brilliant. it brings us to a foundation of where we were before and where we are now in our society with education. its sad but true. I gotta thank my English teacher, Ms.Hanson for introducing me to this video
Excellent lecture on how the present system of education actually destroys learning and creativity. By indoctrinating children to a program where they are conditioned to think along the lines of a jealously guarded system, their individual creativity is often destroyed. Ken Robinson's lectures should be required for all educational administrators and teachers particularly in the public school system.
I wasn't speaking about grade school but beyond. However, the example you use helps to support my point. Abraham Lincoln took complete responsibility for his own education. He was self-educated. Living long before mass education, he had only about a year of formal education from several itinerant teachers. But he read anything he could get his hands on and, obviously, became extremely educated. Also, eleven is rather late. Even I woke up by then and started being responsible in school.
@MrFlamingPuppet Exactly so! I have long called schools 'Shut up, sit down and do what you're told institutions.' I home schooled my kids and my youngest boy learned times tables while jumping on a trampoline. They learned arithmetic through grocery shopping. They had wonderful educational and social experiences and were allowed to pursue their interests. They blossomed. It wasn't that hard to do.
At the grade school level many schools now apply what is called alternative assessment. Children are not graded at all: they put together portfolios of their best work for parent/teacher conferences; teachers write narratives about each students learning experience and check off lists of strengths. They never received a letter grade at all. Conservatives complain the purpose of this is avoid damaging children's self-esteem. The real purpose is to focus children on learning rather than grades.
universities share the same problem. and i don't know how all this stuff works in other countries, but in spanish ones you just have to study before the exams, spit your knowledge and then forget it after the exams and continue with your life.
Standardized testing - taking teachers and students out of the most effective relationship dynamic for several days of the term, and using the results of those few days to determine if the most effective relationship dynamic is effective. In Canadian teaching programs, there just isn't the same worry about funding and job security based on Standardized Testing achievement. I feel for you US teaching professionals. Really, I do.
The apparent “decline” of creativity might not be just due to the education system itself but might be a natural result of children growing up and the way that their understanding of their external environment means they know what limitations and natural rules are and therefore what is and what is not possible.
This is so true. I enjoyed and used to sketch a lot as a kid. As I progressed through school, it was a recurring theme that logical skills were dominant and I slowly lost my artistic side. The thing I loved and did well was thrown in the bin. What am I doing now? A computer degree that I'm struggling with.
Watching this 7 years late. What are they waiting for, Jeremy Corbyn? Can't wait for that change, we need to revolutionize education ourselves right now. Hey teachers, leave your kids alone. Give them freedom to learn.
Even though a baby-boomer, I haven't worn a watch in years, for all the reasons given here. But I miss having an analog watch. The hands move as time appears to move, as represented by shadows moving across the ground, floor or wall as the day progresses. They move with the earth, which doesn't hold still for a whole minute and then blip forward, as digital representations of time do. An analog watch or clock also lets one "see" time past and future when one looks at it. If the hands say three o'clock, one can picture the minute hand sweeping around over the next half hour while trying to prioritize thirty minutes' worth of activities. So if boomers won't stop wearing watches, it may be because they are sensitive to what is lost when they come off our wrists.
Another great talk. If you've not seen his TED talk you should check it out. Someone said it's on UA-cam already, but I just discovered the TED app for iPhone (it's free) and its awesome. Download the talks for later viewing, or stream online.
Are you immovable, moveable or moving? If you spend an hour passively watching today, make sure it's early and make sure it's watching this. Then make sure you spend two hours spreading the word!
Actually, there is something called 'La Educación Prohibida' - a project about education and its alternatives, problems... It originated in Latin America (not exactly 'first world'), and I highly recommend you check it out - their video is in Spanish with subtitles.
I hope someday in the future people will be able to learn what they want to learn and in an effective manner with other people of similar interests which give rise to people who are self-incentivized to perform certain actions and things without having to succumb to society's judgement of economic utility of such actions, knowledge and skills. Most people, my peers, I see could not give a care in the world for what is taught and structured in school and would rather be doing something else.
I never really did art for a long time since primary school. High school was just constant drugging of logical subjects, the idea that I needed logical skills to succeed further alienated myself from art. I chose to do a computer degree because of my interest in technology, however I somehow feel that I'm not the right "material" for it.
I believe you missed the entire message of the talk. It is not a way for him to build a platform to sell a novel, in fact the novel is only mentioned the one time. There is a reason this man has gone to multiple places like this to deliver speeches, and it is not to say, "don't worry about failing math, you'll be fine" but rather, "in spite of doing poorly at any given subject, there is so much more for you to do well in that you haven't been allowed to experience for the sake of it".
In short, public school was never meant to create strong entrepreneurs, but generations of yes-men, who would always need to be told what the next assignment was, who would need to be trained and retrained for industry's needs. The grades aren't there to help the students. They are for sorting cogs. THIS is what creative teachers and students are up against: the very structure and purpose of public schools.
And anyone who wants to suggest I lack understand about the complex exterior economic and social forces that shape our destinies, they obviously haven't read any of my posts on the subject, so I'm posting a copy of one above. However, it still doesn't negate my point that love of learning must come from within.
In my 6th year of college and I agree with everything he said. I don't see my degree and minor as being useful, because NO ONE can find jobs these days. Jim Beaver sent me!
In “Inheriting an Abundant Earth” a simple rule tweak on inheritance ends up changing the direction and purpose of modern human life! It's something specific we can demand. Are we really just this close to having it work right? Oh yeah, it's a Ski movie! Watch “Inheriting an Abundant Earth” on UA-cam (“Occupying Chairlifts” 5.0) then sign the petition, and share it!!
Thinking about this somewhat, perhaps it is not entirely the educational system's fault but the act of learning previous humans/generations' works? Say someone decides to learn piano, but that person only restricts themselves to learning to play other people's works. Now ask that person to create there own piece. How original is that work they just created? How do we define originality?
As a teacher, I pay attention to the kids I teach as people and I really don't pay too much attention to the system (curriculum + formal assessment). From what I have seen, this 'system' is trying to measure our kids and failing and then somehow confusing that failure with the kids' performance as learners. This is the quickest way to stifle their potential..
@BenAlldridge On januari 25 my University has some talks of some people. One of them is Richard Gerver, a friend of Ken. And he will talk about changing this paradigm, so maybe there will be some change. I surely hope so, cause what we do now is just killing our potential!
@joeybenn Originality doesnt necessarily have to do with not studying previous masters. Ofcourse, studying previous masters allows you to know many things: The way to compose, the progression of it, the mood or meaning it conveys and a whole lot of things. One then can be original in creating a new composition. Sure it takes time, effort and dedication. The question is how many schoold would allow such "waste" of time.
I think the school system needs to stop being the scapegoat for personal responsibility. Each individual is responsible for his own boredom and his own education. Anyone who is bored has only himself to blame. Likewise, each individual is responsible for teaching himself. The school system can help facilitate learning, but without personal motivation and responsibility, real learning cannot take place.
@Nautilus1972 He's an immigrant to the United States; Just because they are household terms here doesn't mean they are around the world. Off hand, without Google-ing it, do you know what I refer to when I say Tunguska (Might not be the best example, but...)? He's a Ph.D which technically means he's a Doctor of Philosophy, which I think fits pretty well considering his lecture.
@strife93 Roosterteeth is a company that do online stuff such as videos, they also have community forums. Monty does motion capture for the company, he posted this link in his blog
@SciFiHero I'm curious, are you talking about Victoria Comp? I went there, and it was the same situation: a completely arts-focused school, but then the old principal retired, and an academics-focused one came in. I don't know about the principal(s) that came after because I graduated in '02. IB was always around--it was mandatory when I was in junior high there, but it was optional in high school. I was very glad I took some IB classes (art, history), but full IB would have driven me bonkers.
@uuuuuuuuu7 I really don't find aspect/subject of Mr. Robinson's lecture that one could argue about. There is a profound truth in this talk. The debate isn't up to him, but up to the society that he admonishes. He doesn't need to debate, and he calls for us to make the choices. He only asks that world leaders and and masses of our society make the right choice; that is the choice that cultivates and fosters creativity.
HOW TO FIX EDUCATION: make it completely voluntary, and composed of short sharp projects of limited duration (theater productions, music albums, magazines, product development labs, news shows, etc.) ,whose duration is based on THE GOAL,and which one could either join or not based on interest. One should not be locked into 10-month long no-bid cognitive contracts designed like some kind of task-oriented cattle call. The real world has many alternatives to that set up.
Yes Graham, this is widely known BUT the current warming is inextricably linked to the exponential increase in greenhouse gasses brought about by industrialisation. The difference this time is that we can influence the extent to which global warming happens and choosing not to is cataclysmically stupid.
@MrFlamingPuppet I have to tell you that as one who loves Ken Robinson's presentation, and as one who works in the public school system too, it's just not very easy to assist with creative divergent thinking in students or give them individual chances for success when you have 26 of them in a classroom. I can do wonderful things with 12! With 20... it gets harder. 26? HARD. 30? no way. How do we improve public education if society isn't willing to hire more (good) teachers?
Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth -- more than ruin -- more even than death.... Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habit. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid. Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man.~Bertrand Russell
Anyone can help to listen to the title of the book where he talked about divergent thinking? I can't figure out what he said. To be specific, it's at 48:00.
i love learning and education, but our current school system makes learning a boring and repeated which is not. Kids could learn in different ways and in different styles of learning and classroom learning with professors dictating you what to do isn't learning, as if one really learns something, they won't just nod and agree to what professors says, they will have critical thinking and will question even the so-called "facts" presented by professors.
The whole idea of how schools work school is wrong. It is viewed as a place where you learn useful stuff. Actually that is true. But this is not the only thing that happens. You grow up there. You become a person, preferably yourself. But the system just gives you stuff. It does not help you become you it pushes that part of life to the background. Bringing individuality to the foreground would make you integrate skills. They would have a place within *you* instead of *them* 'defining' you.
"We're getting our children through education by anaesthetizing them, and I think we should be doing the exact opposite. We shouldn't be putting them asleep, we should be waking them up to what they have inside of themselves."
That gave me chills. I really couldn't agree with him more. I can relate to so much of what he says here on a deeply personal level, from firsthand experience. Makes my heart ache. I can't help but wonder what will become of my generation.
Amazing, inspiring... I'm speachless.... Could never believe I would sit in front of a video lecture for 55 minutes when I have exams to study to! This is the one of the most interesting piece of information I have ever recieved.
Thank You!!
Such a brilliant educator and orator- really sadly missed 🙏 so glad I can view his great talks in YT 👍
I love how interdisciplinary this is, how it connects so many aspects in the world and in humanity to remind us how important education is and how we really ought to shift our focus. I don't personally have a solution to fixing our educational systems, but I think that if every educator watched and discussed these kinds of videos, we'd already be halfway there.
His innate happiness combined with a native creative intelligence is so invitingly encouraging! I LOVE Sir Ken's humanity;-) Thank you for sharing this!
This man and Penelope Trunk have some fantastic, innovative ideas about education and the end goals of our cultural push for higher education. I've felt this way for years, long before college.
im glad that someone finally showed me how too say something about the education system. i think everyday that theres something wrong going on here but never came up with the words to say something about it
This is a food for anyone in deep starvation of educational enlightenment, and not definitely another mundane lecture.
ram karthik this is more than food tbh, such an inspiration
Never thought a 15-year-old kid from the Midwest could actually be interested in this kind of lecture. But, here I am, and inspired to change a few people's minds about education if I ever get the chance.
Very inspirational, witty and funny. I like this guy more than most standup comedians.
Sir Robinson makes me think of Célestin Freinet and his view on education. This talk shows the true genius of Freinet, who had similar ideas almost 90 years ago.
This guys is the saviour of thinking, I heard his lecture last year when he came to UBC, he is amazing. I instinctualy clapped after listening to this
Sir Ken Robinson has this ability that he describes of divergent thinking, he is able to conceive of effects that the education system has on younger people based on their experiences of the new world without taking it for granted that the only way to succeed is to be better than someone in a linear manner. We are naturally competitive but also naturally infinite, it is ridiculous to reduce ourselves to other peoples' expectations or concepts of brilliance.
having worked in child care and ed for nearly 20 years, his ideas that arts are being denegrated are absolutely on pointe. There are so many ways to teach history, science and general studies thru music/dance/art which is more accessible to children who not so 'academic' but many children who fall into this 'sphere' can later find themselves able/interested in just those higher academic spheres.. know the life values of your students, and teach them accordingly!!!
Who thumbs down this talk?!?great insights...
People who do their best to make education work, do not like to hear they are "killers of creativity". When they are in a bad mood, they might thumb down out of sheer frustration. My kid also thumbs down videos for strange reasons, e.g. "hard to understand" :) … I am guilty too. I mis-click from time to time :)
This man is always such a pleasure to listen to.
Just came across this and absolutely first class presentation and really gets you thinking and challanging how things are done. Nice one Sir Ken!
Somehow i have to admit you go beyond common comprehension with extreme cuteness. God is with you as you see the enriched human paradigm for what it is
Education is such a wonderful thing, it's probably one of the greatest abilities of humanity! To communicate ideas in order to help each other evolve as individuals, and to see the love of such a thing systematically destroyed in nearly every kid I've met is a fucking tragedy
Ken Robinson ...once again...great speech...now we all have to MOVE
Blew my mind! Extremely interesting and he is a brilliant presenter! I feel bad for not knowing about him earlier!
Sir Ken was the keynote speaker at the 2011 AMS Montessori Conference. He is a supporter of that model. Of course, he can not support it exclusively because various students will need specialized interventions and different approaches to meet their needs. Nevertheless, the Montessori model was created to support independence, intelligence, critical thinking skills, and the development of self-discipline, while also celebrating community, culture and creativity. Sir Ken is one of our heroes!
this video is absolutely brilliant. it brings us to a foundation of where we were before and where we are now in our society with education. its sad but true. I gotta thank my English teacher, Ms.Hanson for introducing me to this video
I love this guy. Now if only the people in charge of the public education system would listen to him.
Excellent lecture on how the present system of education actually destroys learning and creativity. By indoctrinating children to a program where they are conditioned to think along the lines of a jealously guarded system, their individual creativity is often destroyed. Ken Robinson's lectures should be required for all educational administrators and teachers particularly in the public school system.
Awesome. This gives me faith for humanity.
I have no idea, but they let me listen to 1 hour of Ken instead of 18 minutes. :)
I wasn't speaking about grade school but beyond. However, the example you use helps to support my point. Abraham Lincoln took complete responsibility for his own education. He was self-educated. Living long before mass education, he had only about a year of formal education from several itinerant teachers. But he read anything he could get his hands on and, obviously, became extremely educated. Also, eleven is rather late. Even I woke up by then and started being responsible in school.
@MrFlamingPuppet Exactly so! I have long called schools 'Shut up, sit down and do what you're told institutions.' I home schooled my kids and my youngest boy learned times tables while jumping on a trampoline. They learned arithmetic through grocery shopping. They had wonderful educational and social experiences and were allowed to pursue their interests. They blossomed. It wasn't that hard to do.
At the grade school level many schools now apply what is called alternative assessment. Children are not graded at all: they put together portfolios of their best work for parent/teacher conferences; teachers write narratives about each students learning experience and check off lists of strengths. They never received a letter grade at all. Conservatives complain the purpose of this is avoid damaging children's self-esteem. The real purpose is to focus children on learning rather than grades.
my desire to ensure our youth's future brought me here
When education treated as a business, reliance on commerce majority of
institutions ensure student debt, graduating into the dole office.
universities share the same problem. and i don't know how all this stuff works in other countries, but in spanish ones you just have to study before the exams, spit your knowledge and then forget it after the exams and continue with your life.
Standardized testing - taking teachers and students out of the most effective relationship dynamic for several days of the term, and using the results of those few days to determine if the most effective relationship dynamic is effective.
In Canadian teaching programs, there just isn't the same worry about funding and job security based on Standardized Testing achievement. I feel for you US teaching professionals. Really, I do.
A great talk, and he's from Liverpool too , What a bonus
The apparent “decline” of creativity might not be just due to the education system itself but might be a natural result of children growing up and the way that their understanding of their external environment means they know what limitations and natural rules are and therefore what is and what is not possible.
Brilliant! I almost agree with almost everything he said, that's as close as it ever gets.
This is so true. I enjoyed and used to sketch a lot as a kid. As I progressed through school, it was a recurring theme that logical skills were dominant and I slowly lost my artistic side. The thing I loved and did well was thrown in the bin. What am I doing now? A computer degree that I'm struggling with.
Watching this 7 years late. What are they waiting for, Jeremy Corbyn? Can't wait for that change, we need to revolutionize education ourselves right now. Hey teachers, leave your kids alone. Give them freedom to learn.
Even though a baby-boomer, I haven't worn a watch in years, for all the reasons given here.
But I miss having an analog watch. The hands move as time appears to move, as represented by shadows moving across the ground, floor or wall as the day progresses. They move with the earth, which doesn't hold still for a whole minute and then blip forward, as digital representations of time do.
An analog watch or clock also lets one "see" time past and future when one looks at it. If the hands say three o'clock, one can picture the minute hand sweeping around over the next half hour while trying to prioritize thirty minutes' worth of activities.
So if boomers won't stop wearing watches, it may be because they are sensitive to what is lost when they come off our wrists.
Another great talk. If you've not seen his TED talk you should check it out. Someone said it's on UA-cam already, but I just discovered the TED app for iPhone (it's free) and its awesome. Download the talks for later viewing, or stream online.
love the argument about the money for the prison system vs education system
why isnt this more popular!?!
Are you immovable, moveable or moving?
If you spend an hour passively watching today, make sure it's early and make sure it's watching this. Then make sure you spend two hours spreading the word!
I would love to attend a presentation by him.
Y a pas photo! Punaise que c'est difficile de changer de points de vues...
Bravo Sir!
Simply brilliant!
Actually, there is something called 'La Educación Prohibida' - a project about education and its alternatives, problems... It originated in Latin America (not exactly 'first world'), and I highly recommend you check it out - their video is in Spanish with subtitles.
being an architect to be brought me here.... although architecture has nothing to do with painting, which i actually love.
Briliant...
Great public speeking skills
That just blew my fucking mind...
I hope someday in the future people will be able to learn what they want to learn and in an effective manner with other people of similar interests which give rise to people who are self-incentivized to perform certain actions and things without having to succumb to society's judgement of economic utility of such actions, knowledge and skills. Most people, my peers, I see could not give a care in the world for what is taught and structured in school and would rather be doing something else.
I never really did art for a long time since primary school. High school was just constant drugging of logical subjects, the idea that I needed logical skills to succeed further alienated myself from art. I chose to do a computer degree because of my interest in technology, however I somehow feel that I'm not the right "material" for it.
Excellent, inspirational, informative.
Deeply inspiring talk.
I believe you missed the entire message of the talk. It is not a way for him to build a platform to sell a novel, in fact the novel is only mentioned the one time. There is a reason this man has gone to multiple places like this to deliver speeches, and it is not to say, "don't worry about failing math, you'll be fine" but rather, "in spite of doing poorly at any given subject, there is so much more for you to do well in that you haven't been allowed to experience for the sake of it".
This was amazing.
I wanna hear the discussion afterwards...
In short, public school was never meant to create strong entrepreneurs, but generations of yes-men, who would always need to be told what the next assignment was, who would need to be trained and retrained for industry's needs. The grades aren't there to help the students. They are for sorting cogs. THIS is what creative teachers and students are up against: the very structure and purpose of public schools.
And anyone who wants to suggest I lack understand about the complex exterior economic and social forces that shape our destinies, they obviously haven't read any of my posts on the subject, so I'm posting a copy of one above. However, it still doesn't negate my point that love of learning must come from within.
In my 6th year of college and I agree with everything he said. I don't see my degree and minor as being useful, because NO ONE can find jobs these days.
Jim Beaver sent me!
what an Ambassador for the arts! Love this man!
i love this guy. this kind of thing is exactly the sort of thing i thought we should be doing in school. (i'm going into gr.12 this year btw)
How are you doing now? 😊
This is wonderful and so so true! What can we do to help bring about this kind of change?
In “Inheriting an Abundant Earth” a simple rule tweak on inheritance ends up changing the direction and purpose of modern human life! It's something specific we can demand. Are we really just this close to having it work right? Oh yeah, it's a Ski movie! Watch “Inheriting an Abundant Earth” on UA-cam (“Occupying Chairlifts” 5.0) then sign the petition, and share it!!
Thinking about this somewhat, perhaps it is not entirely the educational system's fault but the act of learning previous humans/generations' works? Say someone decides to learn piano, but that person only restricts themselves to learning to play other people's works. Now ask that person to create there own piece. How original is that work they just created? How do we define originality?
As a teacher, I pay attention to the kids I teach as people and I really don't pay too much attention to the system (curriculum + formal assessment). From what I have seen, this 'system' is trying to measure our kids and failing and then somehow confusing that failure with the kids' performance as learners. This is the quickest way to stifle their potential..
Thanks for this Sir Robinson. I liked it when Pink Floyd said it too.
His ideas are phenomenal! But my only question is: how are we going to reverse our already broken school system? This going to take years.
@BenAlldridge On januari 25 my University has some talks of some people. One of them is Richard Gerver, a friend of Ken. And he will talk about changing this paradigm, so maybe there will be some change. I surely hope so, cause what we do now is just killing our potential!
brilliant response! incidentally, i agree with you!
@hakki368 yan ba yung malapit sa UPLB? grabe ang ganda dun! nakakainggit!
fantastic, God bless all
@joeybenn Originality doesnt necessarily have to do with not studying previous masters. Ofcourse, studying previous masters allows you to know many things: The way to compose, the progression of it, the mood or meaning it conveys and a whole lot of things. One then can be original in creating a new composition. Sure it takes time, effort and dedication. The question is how many schoold would allow such "waste" of time.
I think the school system needs to stop being the scapegoat for personal responsibility. Each individual is responsible for his own boredom and his own education. Anyone who is bored has only himself to blame. Likewise, each individual is responsible for teaching himself. The school system can help facilitate learning, but without personal motivation and responsibility, real learning cannot take place.
@Nautilus1972 He's an immigrant to the United States; Just because they are household terms here doesn't mean they are around the world. Off hand, without Google-ing it, do you know what I refer to when I say Tunguska (Might not be the best example, but...)? He's a Ph.D which technically means he's a Doctor of Philosophy, which I think fits pretty well considering his lecture.
RIP Sir.
art revolution is coming
Definitely limited opportunity and financial resources are a big part of the mental health problem here in the west.
Great!
@strife93 Roosterteeth is a company that do online stuff such as videos, they also have community forums. Monty does motion capture for the company, he posted this link in his blog
@SciFiHero I'm curious, are you talking about Victoria Comp? I went there, and it was the same situation: a completely arts-focused school, but then the old principal retired, and an academics-focused one came in. I don't know about the principal(s) that came after because I graduated in '02. IB was always around--it was mandatory when I was in junior high there, but it was optional in high school. I was very glad I took some IB classes (art, history), but full IB would have driven me bonkers.
@uuuuuuuuu7 I really don't find aspect/subject of Mr. Robinson's lecture that one could argue about. There is a profound truth in this talk. The debate isn't up to him, but up to the society that he admonishes. He doesn't need to debate, and he calls for us to make the choices. He only asks that world leaders and and masses of our society make the right choice; that is the choice that cultivates and fosters creativity.
@MrFlamingPuppet, Entrepenuership is 5 % of the US population(S. Graybill SCC). How much higher do you believe it should be?
wow thats energising
Ken Is amazing!
fascinating. if only more 'educators' (and i use that term loosely :p) would see this lecture. some incredible ideas in there
HOW TO FIX EDUCATION: make it completely voluntary, and composed of short sharp projects of limited duration (theater productions, music albums, magazines, product development labs, news shows, etc.) ,whose duration is based on THE GOAL,and which one could either join or not based on interest. One should not be locked into 10-month long no-bid cognitive contracts designed like some kind of task-oriented cattle call. The real world has many alternatives to that set up.
well I just spent an hour watchin this vid when im susposed to do a paper by tomorrow. Think i'll use this vid as a jumping point for it.
Went from being a good student to a drop out because standardized testing as an idea did not fly with me. So hard to disagree with what this man says.
Yes Graham, this is widely known BUT the current warming is inextricably linked to the exponential increase in greenhouse gasses brought about by industrialisation. The difference this time is that we can influence the extent to which global warming happens and choosing not to is cataclysmically stupid.
Awesome!
@MrFlamingPuppet I have to tell you that as one who loves Ken Robinson's presentation, and as one who works in the public school system too, it's just not very easy to assist with creative divergent thinking in students or give them individual chances for success when you have 26 of them in a classroom. I can do wonderful things with 12! With 20... it gets harder. 26? HARD. 30? no way.
How do we improve public education if society isn't willing to hire more (good) teachers?
All I wanted was a video on FFXIII?
Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth -- more than ruin -- more even than death.... Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habit. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid. Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man.~Bertrand Russell
Anyone can help to listen to the title of the book where he talked about divergent thinking? I can't figure out what he said.
To be specific, it's at 48:00.
i love learning and education, but our current school system makes learning a boring and repeated which is not. Kids could learn in different ways and in different styles of learning and classroom learning with professors dictating you what to do isn't learning, as if one really learns something, they won't just nod and agree to what professors says, they will have critical thinking and will question even the so-called "facts" presented by professors.
What a legend!
The whole idea of how schools work school is wrong.
It is viewed as a place where you learn useful stuff. Actually that is true.
But this is not the only thing that happens. You grow up there. You become a person, preferably yourself. But the system just gives you stuff. It does not help you become you it pushes that part of life to the background.
Bringing individuality to the foreground would make you integrate skills. They would have a place within *you* instead of *them* 'defining' you.
He should have got the "Pale Blue Dot" picture.
Seems that two people don't want the person disliking the video to be in hell alone. ;)