Its a cute soundbite from Peterson but false nonetheless. Men need brains WITH brawns. Unfortunately, too many men are porn addicted morons who focus on videogames but not personal development. Men need to learn how to read, go to the gym, focus on financial literacy, boost their resumes, and develop actual interests beyond their Call of Duty kill ratio. Ambition without wisdom gets you nowhere.
Chris. When you censor men you do not come out the winner. You merely prove you are vastly inferior intellectually. JP supports censorship. And it would appear, so do you.
@The Tyro of Toriyama Which comment are you talking about? If you mean the one where the man burned his ex and three children to death I stand by that comment. It seems to be gone..
I always found C. S. Lewis' description of Aslan to be a good template of masculinity. In his first book of chronicles of Narnia the beavers are talking to the children about aslan and the children ask if he is safe, and Mr Beaver replies no but he is Good. That has stuck with me for a long time as I think this is important for being a dangerous man, Being Good.
Absolutely otherwise you are just harmless or cowardly but it has no bearing on your moral compass. To have the capacity to do harm but keep your sword sheathed until no other option presents itself is the best person to be.
I like how JP means "More dangerous" as in intellectually sharp, competent, deliberate, astute, articulate, and driven- Not swol, big, intimidating, and buffoonish.
@@itzybitzyspyder To me the feeling of anger itself doesn’t feel good, but letting myself express it or put it into an action rather than bottling it up or brushing it away does. Anger is a bad feeling, but doing something to express it, for example yelling or punching something is the part that feels good. Even if it’s letting yourself take that anger and put it into mere thoughts feels good and is a way to express it within yourself. You just have to be careful because if you take these thoughts or actions too far it can become a serious habit and cause damage.
"Nothing makes you more formidable than verbal competence." I can't get that line out of my head. This entire videos is fabulous. JP is so insightful and brilliant. He just draws you in and you want to listen to him. He seemingly built really, the entire 10 minutes around that one line I quoted above. Definitely need to watch the entire interview.👍
That's the way of Jordan Peterson. He hides a very simple message in a mountain of sophistry and intellectualized fluff. Whole video coulda been replaced by a "inspirational quote" picture.
that might be because you're on the same level of comprehension with him. to me, i find some stuff interesting and insightful but others seem to be boring jargons. maybe because of semantic barriers and lower level of comprehension.
@@rosalind1635 I have always found Jordan Peterson, despite being highly educated and well spoken, to be quite pretentious and kind of pompous in a way.
For me, the ideal masculinity is perfectly described in the work of The Lord of the Rings, especially in the characters Aragorn, Theoden and Faramir, brave and courageous men, great warriors, but they used violence only when necessary
I agree with you 100% friend!!! Unfortunately we live in a world where that type of behavior is seen to be weird or out of place because its become such a rarity to see that kind of behavior. It doesn't mean not to. It simply means that you have to be ready to stand out. Be true to yourself.
Thanks Chris, you do a masterful job of allowing your guests to speak while identifying the nuggets that pull the whole conversation together. Madd respect, keep going.
Wow!!! Millions of people, especially young men , need to watch this clip. I was one of those very disagreeable students in school and faltered very much so in education because of it. This is so powerful and such a great argument for trying your best in school. I’ve watched countless hours of Jordan over the years and every so often I stumble upon a nugget of wisdom that is so profound it nearly knocks your socks off. This is that. Thank you Jordan for what you put out into this world. You are very much like the father figure to us all.
ADHD is another barrier that seems to afflict boys more so than girls. I'm not sure what is meant by "disagreeable," but I suspect it's another generic term for improper behavior. My mother always believed that rigorous competition and sports helped boys. They needed some kind of physical outlet and that is good for their physical and emotional wellbeing. I happen to agree, though I'm not a boy. I couldn't really compete sports wise, but I did compete academically. I wanted too be smarter than everyone and I laughed at boys out there chasing the ball in the playground while I pursued other sorts of creative outlets. I consider myself lucky. I've had it easier than boys. Life has been easier for me than for most boys.
@@richardshortall5987 bud he is a full time UA-camr who monetises the left behind... Always be ware of an easy to digest message and easy answers, especially when sold by social media influencers.
I used recruit for colleges and presented to students at high schools. I told the students, the toughest battle I faced when I was a young man was overcoming my own ignorance.The ability to communicate effectively is more valuable than money.
The trick is to feel and accept the full range of your emotions without reacting to them. Anger is ok, killing someone is not. The unwillingness/resistance to feel your emotions is debilitating. That’s the idea. The steadiness of his attention and his ability to channel his emotions is what makes JP extraordinary.
Sounds like he's talking about the "Dark Gentleman" concept mentioned in a previous podcast. Men who have seen, accepted, and integrated their Shadow in a healthy way. They've harnessed their dark side and used it for good
I heard JP once say something along the lines of, a man incapable of violence is not holding non-violence as a virtue. And that’s always stuck with me, having been raised in an environment of women who invited bad men constantly into our lives, it would have made all the difference to see a strong yet restrained/level-headed man.
"Braveheart" touched on this, with this quote: "I know you can fight. But it's our wits that make us men." That's before Wallace's .. Uncle sends him off. Where he learns multiple languages, and how to think strategically on the battlefield.
I really like and appreciate how Mr. Peterson brings the Rap artists analogy, they are so popular because of their verbal prowess. I am definitely attracted to rap artists (only the real ones though) because they are unbelievably articulate in their struggle up towards light as Mr. Peterson mentioned.
These are so incredibly good that I want to personally thank you for making them and putting them here for all of us! Thank you - much appreciated…I have subscribed.
I'm an old f**ker. Watching this rises me up inside. Haven't felt this way for such a long time. JP is a wonderful man, he's younger than me but if you could choose someone to be your dad he'd be mine.
Excellent discussion and video, thanks Chris. I imagine it must be quite intimidating speaking with someone both as articulate and lateral-thinking as Jordan, but it’s clear you understand the conversations and are able to add in your own takes without any expense to the flow or level of the discussion. Thanks for sharing this!
he is right.. words , intelligent and very detailed word prowess is much more dangerous than being very strong physically.. though a weak body can make your words less powerful.
Plenty of men are plenty of dangerous they’re just not able to express it correctly. We live in a society where having an independent thought or individual opinion as a man labels you as a misogynistic predator. Many Men focused on image and status stay quiet, Some men just snap🤷🏻
I don't want to blow my own horn and I apologise if i come across that way but Dr Peterson is correct in what he says...I'm a qualified combatives instructor...been a martial artist 30+ years...been a gym rat 15+ years and I've always gotten 94% or above in ALL exams I've ever sat in my life. I'm only 5'5 and have friends who are above 6' but when we go out socialising and some arguments kick off they always turn to me to sort it out because whether it be physical or verbal I always reach a desired outcome (peace) and if not then always the second most desireable outcome shows and that's domination which results in peace either way. This mans advice is beyond powerful I have as much admiration for this man as i do my own father (almost...pops is my pops no matter what lol).
Exactly. Also, masculinity and leadership is uncommon these days. Men who can be strong, confident, and inspirarional have more opportunities than ever before.
Just remember, being the most competent man in the room, usually also makes you the most hated by the other men. And if they have the means to shoot you down - alone or together - most of them will try to, if they think, they can get away with it. It gets you laid, and it gets you laid into the ground..
If you're both reasonably agreeable/kind-natured and also very competent, and people hate you for it, then you're surrounded by people who are pieces of shit and that's all there is to it.
@@devilsoffspring5519 As my driving school teacher - an 80+ yo former general, called "The General" and a very cool and masculine guy - told me, when I was about to take the driving test (after taking the theory on my own without having a teacher - why pay someone for that - and The General was the only one in the whole city, who would accept that - and the only one who didn't demand 5 hours on MC and 10 in car - "that's just to steal you young kids money. When you can drive, you can drive" as he said) "You are obviously a man, who believes in him self (I was 21) but when you take the test, you might want to try to down play your self confidence, bcz if a man can feel, that an other man could threaten his status, he will have a endency, to want to keep him down". I didn't get it, and remeber thinking: "But I don't want to be a driving test guy. I don't know, what you are talking about". This was 40 years ago, when psycholgy was more or less as mumbo jumbo by common people as astrology was.. I wish, he had explained a bit more, bcz God knows, I've been a pain to many bosses and thugs, and paid bitterly for it, ever since. It's biology
To argue one’s case logically and assertively is always preferable, but during tough negotiations, there has to be a level of physical threat to indicate a kinetic response if the negotiation stop.
Having come from a town that was controlled by organized crime, and now is a shadow's breath of its former self, I think that people in general are plenty dangerous enough.
@@sophiesakura2719 To become a politician you have to be like a charlatan, also like Pinocchio on steroid and JP is none of that. Tredeau is a hypocrite.
That should be a lesson at the beginning of every marshall arts class: > As you grow older their will be many many more times where you need to battle with words rather than physically. Learn to fight physically for fitness and confidence (and perhaps once in your life to actually fight) but you will win or lose many more times in your life based on your vocabulary than your biceps.
Rise is great. Public Image Limited>Album. Lydon is an original. FFF, Fairwell Fairweather Friends. That whole ALBUM is great. Warrior is one of my favorite songs of all times. Be a Warrior.
Physical prowess cannot be separate from the power of speech. Think of the language used: Where do you "stand" on this issue? What's your "position" on, say, Climate Change? It has to do with your posture. Being strong and confident in where you stand in your shoes is prerequisite for making a convincing argument. Its not about aggression. (though it's a deterrence tool) If you're a man who can easily be knocked over you won't be able to stand by your convictions very long when pushed.
This could be titled “men need to be more articulate” or “men need to be more formidable”. Because I’d describe a lot of men as dangerous, they’re in prison… because they’re violent and reckless.
The swag and verbal confidence expressed by hip hop artists has influenced and shaped the way 90% of artists and musicians act worldwide across all music genres. No doubt.
The problem arises when your opposition is too stupid or careless to understand words. Pure intimidation is the only option from there on out, and it almost always ends badly. So, you are forced to either live with the issues or confront them and deal with hoards of fools.
I agree, but do not ever expect people to be too stupid to understand what your saying. The more eloquent and truthfully ambitious you are in what you try to display the fewer people will form the „opposition“. A perfect human being could repent the stupidest of all men, because he knows how to deconstruct and „understand“ their point of view and then reconstruct a for all perfectly understandable explanation as why their wrong. You aren’t qualified of categorizing people of being too stupid to understand you, try harder if they’re “stupid”
I’m reminded of something I heard once upon a time. The great men who created great empires the benefitted the masses did things that would be considered monstrous.
I have to agree that being able to communicate effectively, in both speech and writing, is vastly important. The ability to speak to people at their level so they can understand and comprehend your point, without bringing emotion into it yields wonderful results. Avoiding the violence with reason and communication is highly beneficial, because there is always risk with violence. However, there are times when someone will not be swayed by prose nor logical argument, and will in fact be incensed by it, taking it not as logic but as condescension or perhaps arrogance. In those instances you will find yourself with violence being brought to you regardless of your communication skills. At that point, you need to be able to inflict grievous harm upon them, without remorse nor thought of fairness. You dole out pain and suffering to belligerents far in excess of the insult they offer, when you want to win the fights that have not occurred as yet. Being a man who can think and speak effectively is only part of the equation. You also need the discipline, knowledge, capability, and experience that comes with training to inflict that grievous harm. The competent, capable, highly trained, and thus very dangerous man does not venture out seeking a fight, as he already knows what he is capable of. The weak, insecure, and undisciplined males are who start the fights, outside of conflict over resources which brings an entire new element to the subject. The weak and insecure have something to prove, to themselves and to others, as they are desperate to appear powerful and capable. They often speak very highly of themselves, yet have precious little experience with violence. When the weak minded and insecure pick a fight with the competent, capable, disciplined man they have no idea what they are fucking with as they initiate, and its only after the fight is over that they realize how poorly they chose. It often makes them angrier and more violent towards others, but every so often these tin pot tyrants who accuse others of being exactly what they themselves are, will learn the hard way. The weak and incompetent seem to follow the same patterns, bluster, accusations, ad hominem, shaming language, belittling, demonizing, and then employing others to effect violence in their stead. They are incapable of doing the job personally, so they have underlings or others who are easily manipulated do it for them. False accusations lead to police forces being the tools of the tyrants who cannot handle it themselves. What do I know though, I am just an old, broken, gray haired, fat looking, military grunt who builds old hotrods out in the woods. I am harmless, unassuming, usually affable or quiet, perhaps even comical in appearance and demeanor. I agree that the world needs more dangerous men, who are capable of inflicting great harm, but refraining from doing so unless there is a threat that warrants the violence... and its not up to governments to decide when its warranted... as they are often filled to the brim with the weak, ineffective, and incompetent.
@Thump Er the Sweaty Fat Guy Your statement; "At that point, you need to be able to inflict grievous harm upon them, without remorse nor thought of fairness. You dole out pain and suffering to belligerents far in excess of the insult they offer, when you want to win the fights that have not occurred as yet." is intriguing. Why would a confident, strong man react in a violent manner out of proportion to the real threat?
@@earlgreystoke3324 most people stop when the other is beaten, in my experience that leaves them insulted and they develop a rage about losing to someone they thought they could beat. They will roll it over in their minds, tell themselves the winner had to have cheated, and will often return to try again... sometimes with friends. That is how it plays out with bullies on the school yard, people who want to act tough in early adult life, sometimes later in life, and is what played out in Europe between 1918 and 1939. It was am armistice, letting Germany go but then punishing them further, which only incensed the population. They were not beaten, they simply ran out of resources. It was inevitable WWII would start, for those and many other reasons. This is something a young man learns as he defends himself against one or more bullies. If you only beat one just badly enough they stop, the other will keep coming. If you really throw a beating to the one, the others will notice and not fuck with you. e.g. winning the fights to come. In 1945 Germany and Japan were reduced to rubble, it was obvious they were beaten, and the nukes let everyone else know who was the big dog. 77 years of peace in Europe is the result. A weak ineffective dementia patient is all that was required to end that. How badly you must defeat them varies, no need to kill the drunken idiot who starts a fight with you while he has his liquid courage coursing through his veins. However taking him out very quickly and efficiently, without having any difficulty, will let everyone else in the area know who 'not to fuck with.' You should realize by now that I am not referring to conjecture or esoteric academic assertions/thoughts. I lived it. Backstory: I am 52, grew up on a farm in the 70s and 80s. I am number 2 of six kids, my parents never divorced. Mom passed in '14, dad in '20. My older brother is one of those weak minded, ineffective types, so proud of his mediocre accomplishments, and always needing to put down others to make himself look better. The last 3 and I think the oldest had a different father. Long story. My brother derived great joy in seeing me suffer. When I was six months old, mom found me screaming on the floor with a seam ripper buried in my back. Three years later he poisoned me by telling me Sanaflush was candy. Shortly thereafter he told me to hide in the dryer, then told mom to turn it on. That was just the beginning. As the years went by, the beatings I got from him increased in severity and frequency. I was run over by farm equipment, bludgeoned with the dirt packed root ball of corn stalks that could be swung like a mace. Beaten unconscious several times. He and a neighbor kid were throwing electric fence posts at me on a couple occasions, hitting me in the head and nearly costing me an eye. So many TBIs before we knew what they were... He wrecked his car one night in 1983, and would not allow me to wear my seatbelt in his car, I ate the dash and got my face customized, missing teeth, shattered nose, lots of scarring as my gum line was peeled back and my head smacked the glass. I've spent over a hundred hours in dentist chairs because of that damage. I am on my third dental bridge. I have endured decades of pain and PTSD because of him. In 1985 I had been wrestling for four years, and farm life had packed some muscle on me. I still had to work with him and any time he felt like it I took a beating. One spring day in '85, we were loading up some hogs so he could take them to market before school. He hit me a couple times because pigs are unruly when they know they are going to die. They are kinda smart. I left the barn, and went to wash up. He came running after me, hit me in the back of the head, knocking me down, and told me to get back there and help him. I stood and said no. He hit me again in the nose, and down I went. When I came back up I had grabbed both of his legs below the knees and lifted him off the ground. I dropped him on the sidewalk going to the farm house. He got up and went to swing at me again, I did a fireman's carry, picked him up on my shoulders and dropped him. Put him in a headlock and hit him in the head a few times. He demanded I let him up, so I did and he took another swing. This time I did a double leg takedown, picked him up, and body slammed him on the concrete front steps of the house. If he had gotten back up and taken a swing at me again, I was going to smash his head into the concrete the next time. I left him there and went to school. Later that fall my dad, who had been beating on me when he was frustrated, when thanks to Carter in the 70s and 80s was often, found out that I was not someone to try to hit. Dad kicked me until I could not move in front of the daughters of our neighbor because I could not run through knee deep mud chasing sheep. He once wrenched my neck so hard he left bruises all around the back of my neck. The last time dad tried to hit me, he swung back to slap me, and I gave him a half power hit to his sternum. He went down like a ton of bricks, and didn't get up for a while. He never tried to hit me again after that, which is a good thing, because at 17 I was 170lbs, 5'8 and bench pressing 265lbs. At 18 I was benching over 300. I got messed within school as well, hurt some kids, but not real bad because they had more of a problem with my brother. It was rare for me to have a day without someone trying to hurt me. I'd expound but this is already long. I qualified for state wrestling in 1987 at 167lbs, and on the way there I broke two kids arms, cracked several ribs on other kids, and knocked one kid out. Not trying to, but I was somewhat rough on the mat. I could beat everyone on the team, including the heavy and 185lb guy who ended up playing nose guard in the NFL for Jacksonville, Carolina, and Denver. The 185 took state his junior and senior year, because he had to wrestle me in practice and he got damn good having to be fast and strong. I enlisted in 1988, I had left the farm in 1987 after I graduated. I was neck deep in the Gulf War 90-91. Several altercations came after that in the civilian world, none of which were started by me, but I finished all of them. Stopping just short of ending someone or putting them in intensive care. No need to go to jail, but they knew for damn sure not to mess with me. I am a generous man, I treat people well, I do not threaten nor coerce people, and I try not to be intimidating in public. My nature is not prone to violence, so many people assumed I was harmless and an easy target. Since 2005 when I was injured on my last deployment, and after being an NCO, honing my leadership and writing skills, its quite rare that someone decides to start something with me. Having a 60" chest and 21' arms, with a 21 neck and 40" waist probably has something to do with it. I am built like a silverback gorilla with longer legs and shorter arms. To look at me you would never expect much intelligence, and I tend to downplay my abilities. I prefer people underestimate me, and assume I am harmless. They don't need to know that I have been in more fights than I can possibly count or remember. I am only that man when I need to be, and if I need to be at this age when everything hurts for weeks, I am going to hurt them severely as fast as I possibly can. .. and I can still inflict grievous harm, efficiently, and incredibly quickly despite my limited physical mobility. 500lbs is something I can pick up and carry. Couple that with 6 years of wrestling, including a year at the base level stationed in Germany, and all the experience in fights, you could say its not a smart move to mess with the old fat guy. Combat sports changed my life for the better. Actual combat felt like home the first time I experienced it. I know bullies, I know capable men who can severely harm me... but the thing is, the men who can take me out are also disciplined, trained, and experienced, they don't start fights either. They finish them. I would rather build old muscle cars, have fun racing with the kids, and spend time with my Siberian huskies... one of which wants to go out right now. I raised her from a little furball, she can tell when I am having a rough day from PTSD and stress. I like dogs far better than people.
@@cecilforbes3034 I rarely had a choice in what happened to start everything. After living through what I have, most choice sin life are pretty easy. lol
In my experience, If the teachers like you and you ask questions you get praised. If they don't like you and you ask questions, they will avoid helping you succeed at all costs.
Dude I thought being a monster meant being in peak physical shape, knowing self defense having a tough mindset a disciplined mind, not being able to be articulate after I watched this it changed my perspective on it to a point as to yeah I think it’s a little bit of everything it added being articulate to the category of things I need to master
Be strong above all. Even be deadly. But do not be evil... "But what is liberty without wisdom, and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness, without tuition or restraint." --Edmund Burke
well fuck here i am 28 year male adult living in social society, trying to watch everything i say, the tone of how i say things to other, and trying very very hard not to be physical everytime lol
I got to learn from a mix of selfish, violent scumbags, and kind, generous, good-hearted men who had absolutely zero problem shattering the violent scumbags the moment they crossed The Line.
A few books I would suggest before embarking on your essay adventure, there are many more. I have been on that train for 50 years. The mass media, government and educational systems since 1996 [US] is not supportive or even tolerant. The Federalist Papers/ Hamilton-Madison-Jay The Naked Communist/ Skousen 1984/ Orwell The Weapon Shops of Isher/ Van Vogt Rise Of The American Nation/ Todd-Curti Starship Troopers/ Heinlein The Black Book Of Communism/ Courtois Alexander Hamilton/ Chernow
He is literally describing me and why this man doesn't get the respect he deserves. Why you might ask. It's because he is a threat to the status quo for people who don't want to "toe that line" like myself. Its how I believe BJJ help catapult my confidence the way it did with the years of training. However I was still dealing with internal demons that have been hiding and manifesting in my subconscious. Then when I had a disassociate fugue due from prescription meds I was on. It cause me to have serotonin syndrome with created that disassociate fugue where I was two steps from grabbing a knife and ramming it in my neck/chest. It opened the flood gates and I had to fight my way back to the top of the water. I know I am still trying to keep my head above the water. It's also why I still have strong convictions on how I want/expect to be treated but also how others deserve to be treated
Watch the full episode here - ua-cam.com/video/laSK7Pxh0_8/v-deo.html
Chris there's a chick looking for ya under here..I'm pretty sure it's not a bot!
Its a cute soundbite from Peterson but false nonetheless. Men need brains WITH brawns. Unfortunately, too many men are porn addicted morons who focus on videogames but not personal development. Men need to learn how to read, go to the gym, focus on financial literacy, boost their resumes, and develop actual interests beyond their Call of Duty kill ratio. Ambition without wisdom gets you nowhere.
@@mosesking2923 yes that's Jordan Peterson's message isn't it ?
Chris. When you censor men you do not come out the winner. You merely prove you are vastly inferior intellectually. JP supports censorship. And it would appear, so do you.
@The Tyro of Toriyama Which comment are you talking about? If you mean the one where the man burned his ex and three children to death I stand by that comment. It seems to be gone..
I always found C. S. Lewis' description of Aslan to be a good template of masculinity. In his first book of chronicles of Narnia the beavers are talking to the children about aslan and the children ask if he is safe, and Mr Beaver replies no but he is Good. That has stuck with me for a long time as I think this is important for being a dangerous man, Being Good.
Beautiful example
Good example. That took me all the way back to when I was read that as a child, and I remember that was how I interpreted it at the time.
"I don't give a fuck what you think Jerry" -Rick Sanchez.
Absolutely otherwise you are just harmless or cowardly but it has no bearing on your moral compass. To have the capacity to do harm but keep your sword sheathed until no other option presents itself is the best person to be.
I remember that scene! Being just as scared, and then relieved when reassured that he is good 😊
I like how JP means "More dangerous" as in intellectually sharp, competent, deliberate, astute, articulate, and driven- Not swol, big, intimidating, and buffoonish.
Physical capability is also part
He means both.
Not buffoonish or swol but physically capable. Like a Bruce Lee esc type. Wise and strong.
This world is already dangerous enough. This goofball has an opinion on everything
yes. a man who is powerful because he has integrated his anima too.
Anger is a tricky beast. It makes you feel good. If you don't have it under control then it has you under it's control.
No. It doesn't make us feel good. This is the boring controlling therapy line. Maybe for some people.
Anger is like fire, a great tool and a deadly master.
@@tomwright9904 it does feel good. Maybe not after you make a stupid decision out of anger, but it gives me focus and drive.
I always have to remind myself to that.
Thank you the reinforcement.
@@itzybitzyspyder To me the feeling of anger itself doesn’t feel good, but letting myself express it or put it into an action rather than bottling it up or brushing it away does. Anger is a bad feeling, but doing something to express it, for example yelling or punching something is the part that feels good. Even if it’s letting yourself take that anger and put it into mere thoughts feels good and is a way to express it within yourself. You just have to be careful because if you take these thoughts or actions too far it can become a serious habit and cause damage.
"Nothing makes you more formidable than verbal competence." I can't get that line out of my head. This entire videos is fabulous. JP is so insightful and brilliant. He just draws you in and you want to listen to him.
He seemingly built really, the entire 10 minutes around that one line I quoted above.
Definitely need to watch the entire interview.👍
That's the way of Jordan Peterson. He hides a very simple message in a mountain of sophistry and intellectualized fluff.
Whole video coulda been replaced by a "inspirational quote" picture.
that might be because you're on the same level of comprehension with him. to me, i find some stuff interesting and insightful but others seem to be boring jargons. maybe because of semantic barriers and lower level of comprehension.
@@rosalind1635 I have always found Jordan Peterson, despite being highly educated and well spoken, to be quite pretentious and kind of pompous in a way.
Really you think words will save you if someone decides to break your neck
I feel like that's exactly why idiots flock to him en masse.
Really appreciate this conversation.
For me, the ideal masculinity is perfectly described in the work of The Lord of the Rings, especially in the characters Aragorn, Theoden and Faramir, brave and courageous men, great warriors, but they used violence only when necessary
Don't forget Boromir
Interesting.
I agree with you 100% friend!!! Unfortunately we live in a world where that type of behavior is seen to be weird or out of place because its become such a rarity to see that kind of behavior. It doesn't mean not to. It simply means that you have to be ready to stand out. Be true to yourself.
@@MrWinstonSmithR101a What did you call me? “Femfail”? I don’t understand the mgtow dialect
@@MrWinstonSmithR101a hahahaha, you use the word ‘femfail’ seriously? What about the original comment do you disagree with?
Thanks Chris, you do a masterful job of allowing your guests to speak while identifying the nuggets that pull the whole conversation together. Madd respect, keep going.
Wow!!! Millions of people, especially young men , need to watch this clip. I was one of those very disagreeable students in school and faltered very much so in education because of it. This is so powerful and such a great argument for trying your best in school. I’ve watched countless hours of Jordan over the years and every so often I stumble upon a nugget of wisdom that is so profound it nearly knocks your socks off. This is that. Thank you Jordan for what you put out into this world. You are very much like the father figure to us all.
To be able to Marshall your position
ADHD is another barrier that seems to afflict boys more so than girls. I'm not sure what is meant by "disagreeable," but I suspect it's another generic term for improper behavior. My mother always believed that rigorous competition and sports helped boys. They needed some kind of physical outlet and that is good for their physical and emotional wellbeing. I happen to agree, though I'm not a boy. I couldn't really compete sports wise, but I did compete academically. I wanted too be smarter than everyone and I laughed at boys out there chasing the ball in the playground while I pursued other sorts of creative outlets. I consider myself lucky. I've had it easier than boys. Life has been easier for me than for most boys.
Bud no, young men should not base their world view on UA-camr pop psychology.
@@richardshortall5987 bud he is a full time UA-camr who monetises the left behind... Always be ware of an easy to digest message and easy answers, especially when sold by social media influencers.
@@richardshortall5987 onya kiddo just being honest with you, if you want to follow a UA-camr's advice, you should at least recognise it.
“Fire, Energy, Glory, and Thinking… Thinking is the important thing!”
I used recruit for colleges and presented to students at high schools. I told the students, the toughest battle I faced when I was a young man was overcoming my own ignorance.The ability to communicate effectively is more valuable than money.
To know when to stfu is even better imho
@@MikeyLikesItt Seems like you don't know when to
@@AdamSU119 😂
Men need to become more dangerous. That is the truest statement I have heard in a long time.
I have watched as Globalists have emasculated men since 1970. That is when I became aware of this and many other long term issues.
The trick is to feel and accept the full range of your emotions without reacting to them. Anger is ok, killing someone is not. The unwillingness/resistance to feel your emotions is debilitating. That’s the idea.
The steadiness of his attention and his ability to channel his emotions is what makes JP extraordinary.
Sounds like he's talking about the "Dark Gentleman" concept mentioned in a previous podcast. Men who have seen, accepted, and integrated their Shadow in a healthy way. They've harnessed their dark side and used it for good
Chris your conversations with JP are the best he has! keep them coming and thank you.
I heard JP once say something along the lines of, a man incapable of violence is not holding non-violence as a virtue. And that’s always stuck with me, having been raised in an environment of women who invited bad men constantly into our lives, it would have made all the difference to see a strong yet restrained/level-headed man.
strong doesn't mean violent
@@polpol1005 It does for people who like to throw the word around a lot.
@@devilsoffspring5519 right
@@polpol1005 It means capable of violence. That's not the same as violent.
@@kaczok1985 I know but still, one should not praise it IMO
"Braveheart" touched on this, with this quote: "I know you can fight. But it's our wits that make us men." That's before Wallace's .. Uncle sends him off. Where he learns multiple languages, and how to think strategically on the battlefield.
So glad you're with us Jordan!
I really like and appreciate how Mr. Peterson brings the Rap artists analogy, they are so popular because of their verbal prowess. I am definitely attracted to rap artists (only the real ones though) because they are unbelievably articulate in their struggle up towards light as Mr. Peterson mentioned.
These are so incredibly good that I want to personally thank you for making them and putting them here for all of us! Thank you - much appreciated…I have subscribed.
You need physical prowess for when your opponent decides they no longer care to argue with someone competent and decide to go for intimidation.
Really loved this part of the interview, the whole of which I watched yesterday. So insightful.
I fell that too. When I put song that I like usually is rock/metal/shoegaze, it's like I'm unlished a shadow of anger from inside.
I'm an old f**ker. Watching this rises me up inside. Haven't felt this way for such a long time.
JP is a wonderful man, he's younger than me but if you could choose someone to be your dad he'd be mine.
Sooo , to make a long story short . . . use your talent ( whatever it is) , because that's where you show confidence !
There is nothing that makes you more formidable than verbal competence"
Loving the camera and lighting set up 👌🏼👌🏼👏👏👏
Durk went 👀 @2:01
Excellent discussion and video, thanks Chris. I imagine it must be quite intimidating speaking with someone both as articulate and lateral-thinking as Jordan, but it’s clear you understand the conversations and are able to add in your own takes without any expense to the flow or level of the discussion. Thanks for sharing this!
he is right.. words , intelligent and very detailed word prowess is much more dangerous than being very strong physically.. though a weak body can make your words less powerful.
Haha. Keep coping.
@@MandoMTL Yeah in some sense words isn't enough either. But it beats physical strength in any society that uses communication.
with intelligence you can make weapons
a weak chimp can sharpen a stick and become the toughest motherfucker
nice set. well done.
Reminds of that saying, "the pen is mightier than the sword".
Plenty of men are plenty of dangerous they’re just not able to express it correctly. We live in a society where having an independent thought or individual opinion as a man labels you as a misogynistic predator. Many Men focused on image and status stay quiet, Some men just snap🤷🏻
No we don't 😄
@@AliDixon95 some... key word... some
@@korratheaustralianshepherd5804 'we live in a society where...' was the part I
was answering
@@AliDixon95 Ahhh fair point Ali, definitely have to agree with ya there
@@korratheaustralianshepherd5804 Good. His point about 'some' snapping is still dumb, you control and are responsible for your owm actions
I don't want to blow my own horn and I apologise if i come across that way but Dr Peterson is correct in what he says...I'm a qualified combatives instructor...been a martial artist 30+ years...been a gym rat 15+ years and I've always gotten 94% or above in ALL exams I've ever sat in my life. I'm only 5'5 and have friends who are above 6' but when we go out socialising and some arguments kick off they always turn to me to sort it out because whether it be physical or verbal I always reach a desired outcome (peace) and if not then always the second most desireable outcome shows and that's domination which results in peace either way. This mans advice is beyond powerful I have as much admiration for this man as i do my own father (almost...pops is my pops no matter what lol).
This story was very insightful, thank you
And yet you support the criminal abuse of men in the divorce courts to their suicide deaths because you are a manhater.
Exactly. Also, masculinity and leadership is uncommon these days. Men who can be strong, confident, and inspirarional have more opportunities than ever before.
Thank you for sharing this sir! Respect.
@@MrWinstonSmithR101a your comment confused me a bit...who exactly are you talking to? Me or the guy who replied first?
Definitely timely.
Just remember, being the most competent man in the room, usually also makes you the most hated by the other men. And if they have the means to shoot you down - alone or together - most of them will try to, if they think, they can get away with it. It gets you laid, and it gets you laid into the ground..
If you're both reasonably agreeable/kind-natured and also very competent, and people hate you for it, then you're surrounded by people who are pieces of shit and that's all there is to it.
@@devilsoffspring5519 As my driving school teacher - an 80+ yo former general, called "The General" and a very cool and masculine guy - told me, when I was about to take the driving test (after taking the theory on my own without having a teacher - why pay someone for that - and The General was the only one in the whole city, who would accept that - and the only one who didn't demand 5 hours on MC and 10 in car - "that's just to steal you young kids money. When you can drive, you can drive" as he said) "You are obviously a man, who believes in him self (I was 21) but when you take the test, you might want to try to down play your self confidence, bcz if a man can feel, that an other man could threaten his status, he will have a endency, to want to keep him down". I didn't get it, and remeber thinking: "But I don't want to be a driving test guy. I don't know, what you are talking about". This was 40 years ago, when psycholgy was more or less as mumbo jumbo by common people as astrology was.. I wish, he had explained a bit more, bcz God knows, I've been a pain to many bosses and thugs, and paid bitterly for it, ever since. It's biology
Aldous Huxley was one of the greatest writer
Dr Jordyn Peterson is GORGEOUSLY articulate. Wooow😳
Peterson talking about the Sex Pistols in a good way just made my day.
6:45 who was it that he mentioned there? A song called Rise by Jody Robin?
New subber from Canada, Much love for you and this prof. I've learnt alot from him, I cant wait to delve into your content!
I like your videos so much and great video Chris Williamson :]
the young english rapper JP is talking about is probably Chris Turner. This guy's is amazing, funny and talented.
To argue one’s case logically and assertively is always preferable, but during tough negotiations, there has to be a level of physical threat to indicate a kinetic response if the negotiation stop.
Having come from a town that was controlled by organized crime, and now is a shadow's breath of its former self, I think that people in general are plenty dangerous enough.
The in-formation sentence slapped me in the face.
Do you like getting slapped in the face?? haha
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson for Prime Minister of Canada! 🇨🇦
He will be the worst politician ever.
*of the world!
@@draxZz__ no one is worse than trudeau
@@sophiesakura2719 To become a politician you have to be like a charlatan, also like Pinocchio on steroid and JP is none of that. Tredeau is a hypocrite.
Socialised sex for incels!
I loved every word of your captivating conversation Gentlemen. More power to you ALL Good MEN!
I wasn't ready for Peterson to cite hip-hop and punk (and yes Rotten's band following the Pistols was Public Image Limited). Great clip.
God I love this guy, he is so awesome
That should be a lesson at the beginning of every marshall arts class:
> As you grow older their will be many many more times where you need to battle with words rather than physically. Learn to fight physically for fitness and confidence (and perhaps once in your life to actually fight) but you will win or lose many more times in your life based on your vocabulary than your biceps.
Rise is great. Public Image Limited>Album. Lydon is an original. FFF, Fairwell Fairweather Friends. That whole ALBUM is great. Warrior is one of my favorite songs of all times. Be a Warrior.
The length of the video is 9:11 and it's a great length for a topic about being dangerous
Up to a point. If you show yourself to be to deadly the state will panic and use force against you.
When you threatened someone, you must be ready to carry it out
Awesome! Mind opening! 👍🇨🇦
This is good stuff. Others have called me dangerous. Now I know why.
Exactly
Physical prowess cannot be separate from the power of speech. Think of the language used: Where do you "stand" on this issue? What's your "position" on, say, Climate Change? It has to do with your posture. Being strong and confident in where you stand in your shoes is prerequisite for making a convincing argument. Its not about aggression. (though it's a deterrence tool) If you're a man who can easily be knocked over you won't be able to stand by your convictions very long when pushed.
This could be titled “men need to be more articulate” or “men need to be more formidable”. Because I’d describe a lot of men as dangerous, they’re in prison… because they’re violent and reckless.
JP's meaning of dangerous in this case is different than what you traditionally ascribe to the term.
Dangerously articulate, then.
Exactly 💯 imagine an army coming for your Country and not having dangerous men to prevent it
God bless Jordan Peterson. He is a godsend.
The swag and verbal confidence expressed by hip hop artists has influenced and shaped the way 90% of artists and musicians act worldwide across all music genres. No doubt.
Knowledge is dangerous, and to get knowledge, you only pay - attention. No cash necessary! Knowledge is the cure to fear. ❤
4:09 Omg I know the comedians Jordan's talking about, it's either Chris Turner or MC Hammersmith.
8:12 I need this playlist you speak of
"If your anger goes forth, withhold your hand. If your Hand Goes forth, withhold your anger." - Okinawan Karate
i don't usually comment on videos, but after watching the first few minutes of this video, i realize that i need to work on my communication skills.
Same haha, a skill that's sadly lacking in our society. They really should be teaching that in school.
Peterstone is a beast x
I'd pay good money to see mr peterson raps
Truth, that's it, period.
The problem arises when your opposition is too stupid or careless to understand words. Pure intimidation is the only option from there on out, and it almost always ends badly. So, you are forced to either live with the issues or confront them and deal with hoards of fools.
Best comment yet,
My favorite Mike Tyson quote,
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face"
@@MikeyLikesItt
True words.
I agree, but do not ever expect people to be too stupid to understand what your saying. The more eloquent and truthfully ambitious you are in what you try to display the fewer people will form the „opposition“. A perfect human being could repent the stupidest of all men, because he knows how to deconstruct and „understand“ their point of view and then reconstruct a for all perfectly understandable explanation as why their wrong. You aren’t qualified of categorizing people of being too stupid to understand you, try harder if they’re “stupid”
@@fridaytv4043 "think about how stupid your average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider than that!!!"
-George Carlin
@@MikeyLikesItt good luck with that stupid mentality. “Expect the person in-front of you to know something you don’t.” - Jordan B.Peterson😉
I’m reminded of something I heard once upon a time. The great men who created great empires the benefitted the masses did things that would be considered monstrous.
I have to agree that being able to communicate effectively, in both speech and writing, is vastly important. The ability to speak to people at their level so they can understand and comprehend your point, without bringing emotion into it yields wonderful results. Avoiding the violence with reason and communication is highly beneficial, because there is always risk with violence. However, there are times when someone will not be swayed by prose nor logical argument, and will in fact be incensed by it, taking it not as logic but as condescension or perhaps arrogance. In those instances you will find yourself with violence being brought to you regardless of your communication skills. At that point, you need to be able to inflict grievous harm upon them, without remorse nor thought of fairness. You dole out pain and suffering to belligerents far in excess of the insult they offer, when you want to win the fights that have not occurred as yet.
Being a man who can think and speak effectively is only part of the equation. You also need the discipline, knowledge, capability, and experience that comes with training to inflict that grievous harm. The competent, capable, highly trained, and thus very dangerous man does not venture out seeking a fight, as he already knows what he is capable of. The weak, insecure, and undisciplined males are who start the fights, outside of conflict over resources which brings an entire new element to the subject. The weak and insecure have something to prove, to themselves and to others, as they are desperate to appear powerful and capable.
They often speak very highly of themselves, yet have precious little experience with violence. When the weak minded and insecure pick a fight with the competent, capable, disciplined man they have no idea what they are fucking with as they initiate, and its only after the fight is over that they realize how poorly they chose. It often makes them angrier and more violent towards others, but every so often these tin pot tyrants who accuse others of being exactly what they themselves are, will learn the hard way.
The weak and incompetent seem to follow the same patterns, bluster, accusations, ad hominem, shaming language, belittling, demonizing, and then employing others to effect violence in their stead. They are incapable of doing the job personally, so they have underlings or others who are easily manipulated do it for them. False accusations lead to police forces being the tools of the tyrants who cannot handle it themselves.
What do I know though, I am just an old, broken, gray haired, fat looking, military grunt who builds old hotrods out in the woods. I am harmless, unassuming, usually affable or quiet, perhaps even comical in appearance and demeanor. I agree that the world needs more dangerous men, who are capable of inflicting great harm, but refraining from doing so unless there is a threat that warrants the violence... and its not up to governments to decide when its warranted... as they are often filled to the brim with the weak, ineffective, and incompetent.
@Thump Er the Sweaty Fat Guy Your statement; "At that point, you need to be able to inflict grievous harm upon them, without remorse nor thought of fairness. You dole out pain and suffering to belligerents far in excess of the insult they offer, when you want to win the fights that have not occurred as yet." is intriguing. Why would a confident, strong man react in a violent manner out of proportion to the real threat?
Well written, sir.
@@earlgreystoke3324 most people stop when the other is beaten, in my experience that leaves them insulted and they develop a rage about losing to someone they thought they could beat. They will roll it over in their minds, tell themselves the winner had to have cheated, and will often return to try again... sometimes with friends.
That is how it plays out with bullies on the school yard, people who want to act tough in early adult life, sometimes later in life, and is what played out in Europe between 1918 and 1939. It was am armistice, letting Germany go but then punishing them further, which only incensed the population. They were not beaten, they simply ran out of resources. It was inevitable WWII would start, for those and many other reasons.
This is something a young man learns as he defends himself against one or more bullies. If you only beat one just badly enough they stop, the other will keep coming. If you really throw a beating to the one, the others will notice and not fuck with you. e.g. winning the fights to come. In 1945 Germany and Japan were reduced to rubble, it was obvious they were beaten, and the nukes let everyone else know who was the big dog. 77 years of peace in Europe is the result. A weak ineffective dementia patient is all that was required to end that.
How badly you must defeat them varies, no need to kill the drunken idiot who starts a fight with you while he has his liquid courage coursing through his veins. However taking him out very quickly and efficiently, without having any difficulty, will let everyone else in the area know who 'not to fuck with.'
You should realize by now that I am not referring to conjecture or esoteric academic assertions/thoughts. I lived it.
Backstory: I am 52, grew up on a farm in the 70s and 80s. I am number 2 of six kids, my parents never divorced. Mom passed in '14, dad in '20. My older brother is one of those weak minded, ineffective types, so proud of his mediocre accomplishments, and always needing to put down others to make himself look better. The last 3 and I think the oldest had a different father. Long story.
My brother derived great joy in seeing me suffer. When I was six months old, mom found me screaming on the floor with a seam ripper buried in my back. Three years later he poisoned me by telling me Sanaflush was candy. Shortly thereafter he told me to hide in the dryer, then told mom to turn it on. That was just the beginning.
As the years went by, the beatings I got from him increased in severity and frequency. I was run over by farm equipment, bludgeoned with the dirt packed root ball of corn stalks that could be swung like a mace. Beaten unconscious several times. He and a neighbor kid were throwing electric fence posts at me on a couple occasions, hitting me in the head and nearly costing me an eye. So many TBIs before we knew what they were...
He wrecked his car one night in 1983, and would not allow me to wear my seatbelt in his car, I ate the dash and got my face customized, missing teeth, shattered nose, lots of scarring as my gum line was peeled back and my head smacked the glass. I've spent over a hundred hours in dentist chairs because of that damage. I am on my third dental bridge. I have endured decades of pain and PTSD because of him.
In 1985 I had been wrestling for four years, and farm life had packed some muscle on me. I still had to work with him and any time he felt like it I took a beating. One spring day in '85, we were loading up some hogs so he could take them to market before school. He hit me a couple times because pigs are unruly when they know they are going to die. They are kinda smart. I left the barn, and went to wash up.
He came running after me, hit me in the back of the head, knocking me down, and told me to get back there and help him. I stood and said no. He hit me again in the nose, and down I went. When I came back up I had grabbed both of his legs below the knees and lifted him off the ground. I dropped him on the sidewalk going to the farm house. He got up and went to swing at me again, I did a fireman's carry, picked him up on my shoulders and dropped him. Put him in a headlock and hit him in the head a few times. He demanded I let him up, so I did and he took another swing. This time I did a double leg takedown, picked him up, and body slammed him on the concrete front steps of the house. If he had gotten back up and taken a swing at me again, I was going to smash his head into the concrete the next time. I left him there and went to school.
Later that fall my dad, who had been beating on me when he was frustrated, when thanks to Carter in the 70s and 80s was often, found out that I was not someone to try to hit. Dad kicked me until I could not move in front of the daughters of our neighbor because I could not run through knee deep mud chasing sheep. He once wrenched my neck so hard he left bruises all around the back of my neck. The last time dad tried to hit me, he swung back to slap me, and I gave him a half power hit to his sternum. He went down like a ton of bricks, and didn't get up for a while. He never tried to hit me again after that, which is a good thing, because at 17 I was 170lbs, 5'8 and bench pressing 265lbs. At 18 I was benching over 300.
I got messed within school as well, hurt some kids, but not real bad because they had more of a problem with my brother. It was rare for me to have a day without someone trying to hurt me. I'd expound but this is already long.
I qualified for state wrestling in 1987 at 167lbs, and on the way there I broke two kids arms, cracked several ribs on other kids, and knocked one kid out. Not trying to, but I was somewhat rough on the mat. I could beat everyone on the team, including the heavy and 185lb guy who ended up playing nose guard in the NFL for Jacksonville, Carolina, and Denver. The 185 took state his junior and senior year, because he had to wrestle me in practice and he got damn good having to be fast and strong.
I enlisted in 1988, I had left the farm in 1987 after I graduated. I was neck deep in the Gulf War 90-91. Several altercations came after that in the civilian world, none of which were started by me, but I finished all of them. Stopping just short of ending someone or putting them in intensive care. No need to go to jail, but they knew for damn sure not to mess with me.
I am a generous man, I treat people well, I do not threaten nor coerce people, and I try not to be intimidating in public. My nature is not prone to violence, so many people assumed I was harmless and an easy target. Since 2005 when I was injured on my last deployment, and after being an NCO, honing my leadership and writing skills, its quite rare that someone decides to start something with me. Having a 60" chest and 21' arms, with a 21 neck and 40" waist probably has something to do with it. I am built like a silverback gorilla with longer legs and shorter arms. To look at me you would never expect much intelligence, and I tend to downplay my abilities. I prefer people underestimate me, and assume I am harmless.
They don't need to know that I have been in more fights than I can possibly count or remember. I am only that man when I need to be, and if I need to be at this age when everything hurts for weeks, I am going to hurt them severely as fast as I possibly can. .. and I can still inflict grievous harm, efficiently, and incredibly quickly despite my limited physical mobility. 500lbs is something I can pick up and carry. Couple that with 6 years of wrestling, including a year at the base level stationed in Germany, and all the experience in fights, you could say its not a smart move to mess with the old fat guy.
Combat sports changed my life for the better. Actual combat felt like home the first time I experienced it.
I know bullies, I know capable men who can severely harm me... but the thing is, the men who can take me out are also disciplined, trained, and experienced, they don't start fights either. They finish them.
I would rather build old muscle cars, have fun racing with the kids, and spend time with my Siberian huskies... one of which wants to go out right now. I raised her from a little furball, she can tell when I am having a rough day from PTSD and stress.
I like dogs far better than people.
Earl ,it’s called kill or be killed,well written ol fella ,life’s full of choices most can’t decide the correct turn 👍
@@cecilforbes3034 I rarely had a choice in what happened to start everything. After living through what I have, most choice sin life are pretty easy. lol
Jordan Peterson is the living example of his sayings in this video.
He articulates himself .
Had to be reasoned with in the book 48 laws of power. Rather be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war.
NOT PHYSICALLY PREPOSESSING that is new tier expression for me lolll
I am pretty sure he saw Chris Turner. Just if somebody wants to See the Logos manifest on stage. Love this Podcast!
In my experience, If the teachers like you and you ask questions you get praised. If they don't like you and you ask questions, they will avoid helping you succeed at all costs.
He’s a word genius
Dude I thought being a monster meant being in peak physical shape, knowing self defense having a tough mindset a disciplined mind, not being able to be articulate after I watched this it changed my perspective on it to a point as to yeah I think it’s a little bit of everything it added being articulate to the category of things I need to master
Be strong above all. Even be deadly. But do not be evil... "But what is liberty without wisdom, and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness, without tuition or restraint." --Edmund Burke
"Rap artists are popular because they're unbelievably articulate", I don't know about that, I think the lyrics are the least important actually
I got a book
I leave you shook
I am cooking my meal
Not McDonalds but its a happy meal
so cool to see Jordan Peterson praise Johnny Rotten/John Lydon.
What a beauty
So you're telling me Peterson went to a fucking Chris turner rap??? Bruh my life is complete
Chris tuner represent
I a love to hear his take on rap on the black community
let's take a moment to appreciate this sharpness of camera
well fuck here i am 28 year male adult living in social society, trying to watch everything i say, the tone of how i say things to other, and trying very very hard not to be physical everytime lol
Genius
nice interview! but the noise reduction is really enoying for me.
I got to learn from a mix of selfish, violent scumbags, and kind, generous, good-hearted men who had absolutely zero problem shattering the violent scumbags the moment they crossed The Line.
I will never stop speeding.
Love it... also applies for women
I agree... we need to be men again.
lmao whats with the zoom in on his hand 00:53
Chris Turner getting a mention.
A few books I would suggest before embarking on your essay adventure, there are many more. I have been on that train for 50 years. The mass media, government and educational systems since 1996 [US] is not supportive or even tolerant.
The Federalist Papers/ Hamilton-Madison-Jay
The Naked Communist/ Skousen
1984/ Orwell
The Weapon Shops of Isher/ Van Vogt
Rise Of The American Nation/ Todd-Curti
Starship Troopers/ Heinlein
The Black Book Of Communism/ Courtois
Alexander Hamilton/ Chernow
He is literally describing me and why this man doesn't get the respect he deserves. Why you might ask. It's because he is a threat to the status quo for people who don't want to "toe that line" like myself. Its how I believe BJJ help catapult my confidence the way it did with the years of training.
However I was still dealing with internal demons that have been hiding and manifesting in my subconscious. Then when I had a disassociate fugue due from prescription meds I was on. It cause me to have serotonin syndrome with created that disassociate fugue where I was two steps from grabbing a knife and ramming it in my neck/chest. It opened the flood gates and I had to fight my way back to the top of the water. I know I am still trying to keep my head above the water. It's also why I still have strong convictions on how I want/expect to be treated but also how others deserve to be treated
Chris: "Was it Aldous Huxley who wrote 'Doors of Perception'?"
Jordy Be-Phresh: "Yes...Did he drop that on Def Jam or Death Row records?"