"Life After Tomorrow" on 20/20
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- Опубліковано 3 гру 2008
- Documentary feature, "Life After Tomorrow" on 20/20. Featuring Julie Stevens, Gil Cates, Jr., Joanna Pacitti, Alison Smith, Martha Byrne, Danielle Brisebois, Charles Strouse, Martin Charnin. For more information, visit www.lifeaftertomorrow.com
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As an actor myself..I cant imagine what it must have been like for the girls in the Bway production to feel they peaked at such an early age. How can that experience be topped? Most performers never make it to Bway and those who do only do once..unless youre a star.
This documentary rang true for me on so many levels. I was in full-time competition dance until I was 11. I grew up in the studio, going there 7 days a week immediately after school and all weekend. Traveled to competitions like the kids on Dance Moms. I had no friends at school and didn't care, all my friends were my teammates and competitors. Mom and Dad pulled me out cold turkey at 11 when it got too expensive, and suddenly I was a loner at school with no friends, had skipped all the birthday parties and sleepovers, and I lost what had made me special. It took years even in adulthood to redefine what that meant and is still something I struggle with. I was so amazing, had trophies and awards and could sing and dance and was being scouted by agents, and suddenly nobody cared. I wasn't delusional or big headed, It was quite a shock for a little kid.
I would love to see a documentary like this with the kids that were on Barney & Friends
Kaysee Coward well two people have become super stars
Yes- Selena Gomez and Demi Lovato. I was talking about the cast from the early 90s though (Michael, Luci, Tina, Derek, Kathy, Min etc) they're the ones I'd want to see the most
I definitely agree I would love to see where all the Barney kids ended up
Brookee92 I know that one kid is in The Lion King on Broadway and another is a criminal defense attorney. The others I don't know about
Search youtube for “purple tales podcast”! Lots of interviews!
I'm so disappointed that this documentary isn't available on Hulu anymore. It was incredibly interesting, although I think it would've been awesome if the other orphans from the 1982 movie spoke about the experience, besides pepper and Kate who spoke in the film. I feel so bad that Kristen and Joanna had those incredibly difficult experiences with what was supposed to be such an exciting time for them. I couldn't imagine being their age and having to deal with someone else replacing me in my dream role on Broadway.
Joanna was seriously an AMAZING Annie. Whoever fired her was out of their mind, she can sing circles around Brittney. Terrible decision. Her voice was strong and young and loud. Perfect Annie.
AlmostHeaven89 Hello, Have you heard about Andrea McCardle? I know i'm 7 years late, but still.
AlmostHeaven89 yea poor Joanna...
DottoAnimations Of course, she’s a wonder. The difference here is that Joanna is the Andrea in this scenario vocally
@@karishmabhimsingh1468 It wasn't Martin's decision. The producers did it
hey theater kid here who has done annie multiple multiple times and have been up for the tour but didn’t end up getting it, sometimes the directors just see something in someone. Joanna was an amazing singer but damaged her voice a lot with her voice and she was almost too old. Britney wasn’t as good as a singer AT ALL but she had an innocence in her and she had something special that sometimes people who weren’t apart of the production just don’t understand. Maybe Joanna was hard to work with or just something wasn’t clicking in rehearsal. it was a lot of money on the line and the directors and producers did what they thought was best. This doesn’t mean that I think this was okay. I think they should’ve let joanna go to broadway and then cut her after a few weeks so she could’ve at least made her broadway debut. And are we not talking about kristen and andrea? Andrea replaced kristen but nobody blinks an eye because andrea is amazing. Britney wasn’t bad at all. Not at all. Though I still believe Joanna makes a better annie I can understand the decision. She knew too much because she was older. Britney was very very innocent which is what I guess they wanted in that certain production. Thank you for coming to my ted talk 😌
It was unique because there was a GROUP of young girls, and so they shared the experience making it more memorable. Adding to that, the group of girls had pivotal scene stealing moments in the show. Audiences loved it. Who wouldn't it go on forever?
Joanna is much better! How could they recast her? She has such a powerful voice. Joanna was such an amazing Annie! I feel SO sad! 😣
Basil Ghannam she couldn’t act. It’s an acting role, not just a singing role. She was apparently so bad, the adult actors felt they couldn’t be effective on their roles acting against her.
@@snopesshop1903 I have seen clips of her from the tour and the regional production she did and she could act. The dog trainer later revealed in his biography that the producers were training the other girl as a publicity stunt and possibly because the other girls mom was having an affair with one of the producers.
Didn’t Joanna also have bronchitis and would put make it to Broadway even if she got treatment, I think that’s one of the main reasons.
In the future, There should be a similar documentary about the girls on The show Dance moms.
yes! there definitely should be in a few years. Have you checked out MackZBoss's Dance Moms Uncovered series here on UA-cam? lots of behind the scenes info.
I guarantee you that such a documentary will reveal abusive stage parents who constantly throw Maddie Ziegler's success in their kid's face, like "how come you can't get these kinds of sponsorships and jobs??" Yikes.
I remember when Joanna was let go and Britny was hired.I saw Britny in it on tour with nell carter and after hearing joanna sing it is clear joanna was a stronger singer
"Ehh, it happens all the time. That's show business for you: one day you're the most important guy that ever lived, the next day you're some shmoe working in a box factory." ~ Krusty the Clown
okay, I'll say it, Andrea McArdle, was the greatest "Annie" ever. followed by Diane Keaton, as "Annie Hall."
McArdle had negative things to say in an interview. She sounded very angry and bitter insisting that the women in the documentary were never Broadway actresses and that they should just get over it. In later years her daughter would go on to play Young Cosette in some professional production of Les Miserables.
Annie on Broadway and Annie at the box office .... that was 1977.
bookwoman53 It sounds like McArdle was frustrated with the negative spin the documentary took on the experience of the girls in the show, since hers was very positive and the doc definitely seemed to play up the angst of these girls as they struggled with aging out of the show and, for most of them, their careers. As for her daughter, “some professional production” of Les Miserables was actually the original Broadway production.
@@bookwoman53 I hate to tell you this but to survive in show business, especially as a kid, you have to take one of two options: you either become really tough or you becoming very optimistic. Arlene strikes me as being a tough cookie who was able to develop her talent because she was able to take the direction and not take it to heart and her being frank about others is probably a part of it. Aileen Quinn who played her in the 1982 movie strikes me as being the opposite. She always talks about how "Annie was my first love" and how she had a great time on the stage and in the movie and how she still loves to perform and is so thankful for he childhood and her mom.
It is better to have lived than set on the sidelines and wished. I am sure in the end this experience enriched their lives. Everything is temporary in life and we need to accept that. Just think of all the joy they brought to their fans and audience.
I suppose you have a point. When I was younger I wanted to perform but my mom said no way not because she didn't think I was good enough but because she knew how much being a child star messed up so many kids. I know I could have done Annie when I was younger (hell I was singing opera in middle school) but I think that the transition would have been hard for me.
Oh my God! The one orphan has a boy Annie! That ref, curly hair!! What a cutie!!!
I have the whole documentary on DVD. It's fantastic - very interesting, funny at times, quite moving at others. Joanna was totally robbed. I still feel bad for her - what a teriffic voice. A shame.
Joanna deserved it and won it fair and square. Poor girl
Agreed. My mom and grandma and I watched it and thought it was ridiculous that they cast someone so young to take her place. Joanna was very talented. There were rumors the Nell carter wanted a smaller Annie to seem more scary.
And the girl that they ended up casting wasn't even her understudy. I can't imagine how that must've made the real understudy feel
@@kayseecoward7571 She was probably very hurt but her parents probably told her to not say anything or they would fire her as well. I think the whole thing was a publicity stunt and a poor one at that.
littlesongbird1 it was it was later revealed that Britnnys mom was sleeping with one of the producers
Jimin Skid Marks if by “revealed” you really mean gossip and rumors
Loved this doc
i was in that play at one time when they made this i was living in Norway amazing times i know we all had New York was my play ground
I was facinated by Andrea McArdle. I wanted to play the role of little orphan Annie on Broadway when I was a child. I'm sure hundreds of children wanted that role. It's based off of the poem Little Orphant Annie
Little Orphant Annie's come to our house to stay,
An' wash the cups an' saucers up, an' brush the crumbs away,
An' shoo the chickens off the porch, an' dust the hearth, an' sweep,
An' make the fire, an' bake the bread, an' earn her board-an'-keep;
An' all us other children, when the supper-things is done,
We set around the kitchen fire an' has the mostest fun
A-list'nin' to the witch-tales 'at Annie tells about,
An' the Gobble-uns 'at gits you
Ef you
Don't
Watch
Out!
Wunst they wuz a little boy wouldn't say his prayers,--
An' when he went to bed at night, away up-stairs,
His Mammy heerd him holler, an' his Daddy heerd him bawl,
An' when they turn't the kivvers down, he wuzn't there at all!
An' they seeked him in the rafter-room, an' cubby-hole, an' press,
An' seeked him up the chimbly-flue, an' ever'-wheres, I guess;
But all they ever found wuz thist his pants an' roundabout:--
An' the Gobble-uns 'll git you
Ef you
Don't
Watch
Out!
An' one time a little girl 'ud allus laugh an' grin,
An' make fun of ever' one, an' all her blood-an'-kin;
An' wunst, when they was "company," an' ole folks wuz there,
She mocked 'em an' shocked 'em, an' said she didn't care!
An' thist as she kicked her heels, an' turn't to run an' hide,
They wuz two great big Black Things a-standin' by her side,
An' they snatched her through the ceilin' 'fore she knowed what she's about!
An' the Gobble-uns 'll git you
Ef you
Don't
Watch
Out!
An' little Orphant Annie says, when the blaze is blue,
An' the lamp-wick sputters, an' the wind goes woo-oo!
An' you hear the crickets quit, an' the moon is gray,
An' the lightnin'-bugs in dew is all squenched away,--
You better mind yer parunts, an' yer teachurs fond an' dear,
An' churish them 'at loves you, an' dry the orphant's tear,
An' he'p the pore an' needy ones 'at clusters all about,
Er the Gobble-uns 'll git you
Ef you
Don't
Watch
Out!
The comic strip was based on the poem, the broadway show was based on the comic strip.
Their sooo cute i feel so bad for them🥺😭
@1:41 OMG it's Pepper from the original movie!!
She also played Annie in a national touring company before she aged out and if I recall correctly: became a middle school English teacher.
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yeh i feel sooo bad for tht 1997 annie tht is messed up!
and all tht stuf about how hard it was im sure is true.
"Ive been diagnosed with Bipolar disorder" "I became anorexic" sheesh!!!
Cari Kotcher (Since we are on the subject--bear with me please--you are right about the "Sheesh!") This young woman became Bipolar because in this business, so much is demanded of you every single time and you are never as good as the last performance and I truly empathise and understand this from my former working experiences. Working nearly destroyed my mental health (to the point where I could be dead today if NOT for the meds and my Faith in Christ--even if you find that Faith is dumb or useless, Faith is very real for me--- and these two truly work for me). I needed a permanent retirement as a result. I have worked in so many vocations long term and short term. I worked really very hard and gave my whole devotion every day no matter where I worked. I had to perform and be "on" when I felt like utter dung. As a result to the equally mentally ill bastards who worked around me and waylaid THEIR own anxieties and psycho-dramas every day of my working life, this stripped me of being a person without my ever having realised it. Bipolar is VERY real and disabling. NO one who has it, wants it, nor wants to admit to having it because it tears up your physical health and your overall normalcy and quality of life. Bipolar is a direct fingerprint of constant harassment, abuse of power--even physically, constant demands which does LEAD into eating disorders and burnt relationships that you never realise until you are seen by a specialist. Bipolar is one of the worst kind of being "aware and yet non aware" disorder that anyone can ever have because it has a very high level towards suicidality and disfiguring one's self (cutting--the cutting is NEVER a cry for help, it is part of the Bipolar disorder and it isn't something that anyone can "snap themselves out" of or "get over"). It comes from a life of verbal, physical and mental abuse and manipulation of every sort and having to TAKE it when you truly have no choice to escape. It is an awful disorder to have. If you are not on medications or if you do not have a source of Faith, this disorder WILL kill you and it is SO unexpected and sudden that it is just as devastating to your friends and family as if you died from an incurable cancer or a cancer which is (like Lupus) hidden until something that would be common for others is intolerable for the person who has BiPolar. BiPolars are not easy to live around without medication and additional life long therapy. I apologise for sharing so much, but I hope that others who come across this will read it because it is a very serious disorder and it it is not anything to second guess or to be mistreated by others because those without this disorder are very fortunate and blessed, but, Bipolars must take this seriously and not discard their meds because it only gets worse into a darkness like none other and that is where the act of suicide comes in, not because the patient is selfish or does not care, it is because they are truly sick. They are not murderers or people who "get off" on hurting anyone. They are the most injured people up there with the other fatal mental disorders. Thank you for being patient to read this.
+M Perry Im bipolar too. I get it. So does Carrie Fisher.
You definitely could see it was a "Hard Knock Life" for all these ladies. Child stardom can - and often does - that.
Eating disorders are extremely common in the performing arts, sadly.
@@mperry1329 You don't become bipolar because of your life. You become bipolar if you inherit the gene. It certainly is a difficult one to deal with- and stress can trigger mania or depressive episodes, but you have it because you have it.
I agree with everything else you said, though. It sucks.
I'm sure even as a child you hopefully go into a Broadway role knowing it's temporary and having read your contract that getting replaced over growing two inches or gaining weight isn't supposed to be personal but the experience is such an adrenalin rush! You have beat out thousands to get there, told you're the best of the best, sign autographs, do interviews, have people scream and clap live for you every night and then producers say "Goodbye. You're not special enough to have this anymore." For those who aren't ready to say goodbye it must be tough to find yourself after that.
Don't forget Allison Smith!!!
Watching 1997's Macy's search for Annie on 20/20 its clear Joanna's voice is outstanding. At one point in the show the producer Martin Charnin states, he wasn't totally convinced with their pick (being Joanna) She won the part which was presented by Andrea McArdle, the original Broadway Annie of 1977. While on tour before the show hit Broadway, Joanna was let go and replaced with Britnny, who played a chorus orphan. Joanna repeatedly came down with tonsilitis and bronchitis. What a shame!
She was not sick repeatedly. The men made a terrible, brutal mistake.
Joanna would have been epic as Annie.
@DegrassiInstantStar You can watch it on Netflix
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I love you Annie you're just the best they don't go and I just find out you just go with the flow and just want to write don't want to take up any toys I feel like I want to be like you someday
Do you have the complete documentary? And if you do, could you please put it on youtube? I can´t watch it anywhere else because I am not from the USA :(
Awwwwww
what about the girl Alycia Morton who played in Disney Annie 1999
Why do people here think you only have to sing to be Annie?
💯
@wickedismylife22 Joanna was in the pre-Broadway tour and was fired before the show opened on Broadway.
Molly was played by Christiana Anbri
Does anyone know who played the smallest orphan when Joanna was annie?
Christina Anabri
Cristiana, no?
Roseanne Sorrentino (Pepper, 1982 film) kind of lost her New York Accent. It's so interesting, the movie orphans & title character played other orphans on Broadway.
38yofrmut She really did I actually see her every day she is actually my assistant principal at my school
Please help!! Does anyone know where I can watch the whole documentary? Thankings.
joelarama Amazon, Netflix, Hulu.
Double 19 Thank you!!!
Double 19 I can't watch it on Netflix because I live in the U.K. And I'm not allowed to buy things
It's currently on UA-cam and Google Movies.
Allison Smith is my favorite
She’s one of the very few who went on to have a successful career. She’s essentially never stopped acting.
I agree. I feel like she was the first one after Andrea that was really able to fill her big shoes during the original broadway run. If I recall correctly for a while she was the longest running Annie.
I'm not denying that Joanna is very talented, but I do wonder if perhaps she wasn't trained as much as she needed to be to be at the time to play Annie, meaning I think she had trouble sustaining her voice etc...over the course of the show's run.
No, she never made it on broadway unfortunately because she got bronchitis during the pre show. Britney Kissinger replaced her.
that happened to joanna happened to me. well i wasnt on broadway, but my first lead was annie and i couldn't sing for the show because i lost my voice. i was crushed
That must have been heart breaking.
@lgfannie I dont have netflix. nor have the money for it.
hey i am from 2020
how's it going
this makes me sad
Julie Stevens? is she's Erika's singing voice in Barbie as the princess and the pauper?
1:53 wtf that was creepy.
I know.
it's just flat out mean =(
That kid at 0:24 has got to be the creepiest kid of all time.
did anna have ticks?
Why not andrea mcardle is the first Annie
Because Kristen Vigard is the first one who performed Annie. However, she was replaced because the producers thought that Kristen plays too sweet for the street-smarted orphan girl
Joanna, did she do a show or no
I’m sorry they need to move on!!!
2020 new Annie movie show 1977
I think it's abusive to not let a child enjoy being young. Some kids are driven and really want to perform. Others are pushed by their patents. In any event, more should be done to ensure that kids in show business have the support to grow into well adjusted adults. My siblings and I were given dance lessons and all taught to play a musical instrument. I enjoyed the lessons and playing music and tap dancing. I have never enjoyed performing before an audience. I could never make my mother understand, that all the training in the world does not make a person wa t to perform before an audience.
I understand that this was difficult for the girls however I do understand them being replaced. I love performing but I feel that some of these girls unfortunately have crazy money obsessed moms who don't care about their daughters wishes they just want the fame and money. It's also unfortunate about Joanna but I do hope she understands that they can't have a 14 year old girl playing Annie (especially when she's told by doctors she can't either) and loads of Annie's and orphans move on to doing more Broadway shows and/or other performing jobs (just look at Lilla Crawford for example) so I feel that this documentary only focuses on the negatives...
I saw clips of Lilla Crawford and she was amazing.
This is very "two way" sad.
at least she got to be annie for a little bit.
They simply outgrew the parts...no biggie..get over it. Be glad you were at least part of the show.
I feel it's a bit patetic this women haven't move on with their lives and seem yet so clintching to this experience. Yes, it was brodway. Yes, you had talent. Yes, you can still sing. But life is exactly that - specially in showbiss.
Me as a kid? Perfect voice! Sing beautifully, acted like a suberb revelation...
A few years into age and voice was gone.
I tell this just to make people realize everything as a time-stamp in it. Even when it doesn't seem to. There's always a need to reinvent yourself. I bet that even great long life famous actors like Meryl Streep feel the same.
Did you watch the documentary? Most of the women have moved on with their lives but did talk about how hard it was to do so do the experience.
Well, Isn’t this negative
It’s like this, how about learning things don’t last forever.
It's not negative. It's an honest look at how the experience of being in Annie impacted on their lives. Having been an orphan in the original West End production in 1981, I completely relate to their memories and emotions.
This documentary is brilliant...it's the highs, the lows, warts and all.