Andrea and three original orphans were from Philly because they wanted toughness, She tired out and needed to put this behind her. She eventionally embraced it. The stigma most likely hurt her in some point but she did succeed. When this was made she was still not doing much regarding the show. She has since talked about her experience more. She's a wonderful person who unfortunately had to live most of her life known for one role.
To all the people shitting on the now-adult women in this documentary: As an orphan in the original West End production (in 1981), I completely identify with them. Having an experience like this when I was a child has had a profound impact on me for the rest of my life, even though I got out of the business decades ago (by choice). My life since then has been full of variety/interesting and, for the most part, fulfilling. I've had lots of fantastic experiences along the way. But being in Annie will always be the best thing that has ever happened to me...the enormity/intensity of the experience combined with my young age makes it an impossible act to follow (in any area of life). It's not at all surprising that these women feel the things they feel.
Pretty from Kentucky nobody cares about this my gosh go help the poor in the homeless and families and those that are alone and our parents okay go help the people volunteer work in a shelter grow up
I was the age when Ani first appeared on Broadway and I remember being told not to grow not to gain weight of course I developed an eating disorder the way adults spoke of growing was almost something to be ashamed of I’m glad when Ani appeared on television again recently the girl who played and he was not so small
I feel this documentary helped change how child stars in shows are handled today. For example, my vocal coach told me Disney intentionally limits their young simbas/nalas to 6 months and makes sure the kids have counseling after they leave. Billy Elliot has it in their contract that once the kids out grow the title they get 1 year of counseling after to help them transit.
As a washed up childstar this documentary means the world to me. These girls are so lucky to have each other. I didnt know of anyone else with similar issues before watching this. My girlfriend watched this and feels she understands me a lot better now
It's a shame. I had heard that because of this documentary many shows now have it in the contract that when a child lead outgrows the part they get a year of counseling to help them transit (Billy Elliot is one show).
Andrea McArdle was interviewed on a theatre program. She was very honest about her experience working in show business. The interviewer asked her about the Annie documentary. and she was very condescending towards some of the ladies in it; she said that the actresses in the national tour were wannabes and so on. She said only the Broadway production counted. She’s very bitter.
Do you know I just love Andrea McArdle before New documentary about biography history channel interview with oasr awesome picture awards TCM channel interview for years before New Year at least before New DVD more than usual until the same place looks like new 🆕 picture awards TCM hollywood netflix original post office box office hours in set up for years 1977 years 2012 2021 years before
Me too I love the best part I just love it so much it's looks like new 70s and 1977 new number of power outage in Spanish language arts center spot on Annie and cury Sau made it to the bank of America picture
1977 documentary about biography history channel VIP group legends tour guide Legends of 1977 in Spanish language arts center spot on show on doing live concert in person picture of the same place looks like new DVD theater speakers spoof show season Soopers spoof spoke show on doing live music 🎼🎶 ok with you I just got home from hollywood mail in stock shing for sale saved by 1977
I kind of feel like some the women who played the orphans were trying to live in the past. You had an amazing opportunity and then it ended. That’s childhood, it doesn’t go on forever. But if you want to be famous as an adult, nothing is stopping you. Being butthurt for 20+ years accomplishes nothing. Sarah, Danielle, Alyssa, they all moved forward with their careers. They had some extremely unique experiences and they should be glad for that.
I don't agree with your take at all because I think putting children in a position where they can be famous is just wrong. An adult is capable of contextualizing "I am liked by the public for the thing I do," but a child is not capable of that kind of abstraction. Their living in the past is a natural result of that kind of utterly bizarre upbringing. 99.99999% of people never experience universal praise from even the people they know, much less literal strangers. It's not fair to pin that on them. It doesn't matter if they loved it at the time, a parent's job is to recognize the pitfalls of things and how they might play out in the future. Just as an aside, I'm not calling any of the parents of any of these kids bad parents, not even a little bit. I'm sure literally all of them had their kids best intentions in mind. I'm moreso bemoaning the illusion that celebrity culture forces on people.
She has conflicted feelings about it. She's talked elsewhere about how she got so sick of the song Tomorrow for a while and wanted to distance herself from the show until she realized it was her legacy. @@coryzlife
GREETINGS FROM KENTUCKY ALL BECAUSE YOU'RE FROM PHILADELPHIA YOU'RE TOUGH WASN'T BEING TOUGH AND IS A SENSE OF FALSE BRAVADO IT MEANS NOTHING PEOPLE THAT ACT UP AND MEAN AND RUDE ARE IN THE INSIDE VERY INSECURE OKAY DON'T WE HAVE ENOUGH BULLIES IN THIS WORLD IT'S OKAY TO SHOW EMOTION AND BE EMOTIONALLY VULNERABLE AND BE OPEN THIS IS ALL NARCISSISTIC OF BOLOGNA
Is Robyn's mom Jewish? What on earth would cause someone to be so vengeful toward a child? Were they angry with the mother? It was likely someone in the cast. Possibly someone from their hometown? Wow. Did she figure out who it was ever?
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Right? Sad that these women had to be put through this business at a young age, but it’s also sad that they grew up around gay men and still became adults who think “men kissing men” are gross and weird. This documentary looks like it was filmed in the 90s/2000s, but still.
@@spinshocker do you know that it's looks good I just love it so much it's looks like timeless timeline time travel would be great deal made by the way I just love the same place looks like new 1999 1977 1982 1981 Alison Porter curly Sue she was still saved in her
Show business is brutal on adults. It's no surprise that (some) children in the business end up bitter, cynical, jaded, in therapy, have bad parents, had traumatic experiences, or worse. It's telling that, in this documentary, Andrea McArdle is heard and seen briefly in photos, but not interviewed. Some of these girls had troubles and traumas; some better-adjusted and even grateful. Show Business is a "Hard-Knock Life" for anyone; especially young kids. I get that. But it seems that the people behind this documentary have an obvious axe to grind: They found the most angry and bitter cast members, with the most horrible experiences, and mostly interviewed them. I also do not appreciate the obvious homophobia in this documentary, and in some of the comments below. Being gay is a part of life. Grow up and get over it. To those cast members now well over 50, bitter, angry, still singing "It's A Hard Knock Life" slamming buckets and mops, you still have A LIFE. I suggest you make the most of your adult life now.
Concerning the homophobic parts of the documentary, I feel like you have to think of it from a child's perspective (plus this documentary came out in 2006, we were still in an era where men who knew how to dress & groom themselves well were called "metrosexuals"). As a bisexual man myself, I feel like they're more-so just reflecting on how they were thrown into an adult environment so early on in their lives, as opposed to generally looking at gay/bi men like we're freaks, which many people *still* think we are to this day. They also mention being shocked by the sight of naked women, prostitutes in the area during the original Broadway run, & drugs backstage. At 21:51, one of the orphans recalls trying to roll a joint out of paper towels for some weed they found backstage. Obviously most of this stuff isn't abnormal, and being gay is very much just a part of life, but when you're 7-13 years old in the late 70s/early 80s (the start of the AIDS epidemic and all of the extra stigma attached to queer people), of course it's gonna seem a little odd & unusual. The way they describe it all in the documentary seem to have some homophobic undertones to it, but I feel like they might have been thinking of it from their 10 year old selves' perspectives as well.
Well, in context, the topic discussed is premature exposure to adult themes. The point they're making is that children should not be exposed to sex or sexuality. Let alone the drugriddled streets of NYC in the 80's.
I love Andrea and saw her on Broadway when I was 8. You don’t seem to be giving enough credit to these talented women. Andrea could not play the role forever. It’s thanks to these actors that the show continued and brought entertainment and enjoyment to so many through the years.
Andrea and three original orphans were from Philly because they wanted toughness, She tired out and needed to put this behind her. She eventionally embraced it. The stigma most likely hurt her in some point but she did succeed. When this was made she was still not doing much regarding the show. She has since talked about her experience more. She's a wonderful person who unfortunately had to live most of her life known for one role.
To all the people shitting on the now-adult women in this documentary:
As an orphan in the original West End production (in 1981), I completely identify with them.
Having an experience like this when I was a child has had a profound impact on me for the rest of my life, even though I got out of the business decades ago (by choice).
My life since then has been full of variety/interesting and, for the most part, fulfilling. I've had lots of fantastic experiences along the way.
But being in Annie will always be the best thing that has ever happened to me...the enormity/intensity of the experience combined with my young age makes it an impossible act to follow (in any area of life).
It's not at all surprising that these women feel the things they feel.
Pretty from Kentucky nobody cares about this my gosh go help the poor in the homeless and families and those that are alone and our parents okay go help the people volunteer work in a shelter grow up
I loved watching the 1982 movie as a kid, and I always wanted to see the Broadway show. Unfortunately never got the chance to.
The body language from that guy who is a Annie fan tells me more than I need to know.
Fascinating. Dreams versus reality. I found this very interesting
This is an incredible post. thank you for your story.
Good documentary
I was the age when Ani first appeared on Broadway and I remember being told not to grow not to gain weight of course I developed an eating disorder the way adults spoke of growing was almost something to be ashamed of I’m glad when Ani appeared on television again recently the girl who played and he was not so small
I’ve watched this documentary so many times, and it breaks and warms my heart every time ❤
I feel this documentary helped change how child stars in shows are handled today. For example, my vocal coach told me Disney intentionally limits their young simbas/nalas to 6 months and makes sure the kids have counseling after they leave. Billy Elliot has it in their contract that once the kids out grow the title they get 1 year of counseling after to help them transit.
Whatever
7:45. Allison was so cute. She played that role for so long.
NOT REALLY CUTE ...YOU MUST BE BLIND
As a washed up childstar this documentary means the world to me. These girls are so lucky to have each other. I didnt know of anyone else with similar issues before watching this. My girlfriend watched this and feels she understands me a lot better now
who are you??
And you are ..... who??
It's a shame. I had heard that because of this documentary many shows now have it in the contract that when a child lead outgrows the part they get a year of counseling to help them transit (Billy Elliot is one show).
K the guy right at the end, he could very easily pass as Milton Berle’s twin, thats just spooky!
This is so sad
Andrea McArdle was interviewed on a theatre program. She was very honest about her experience working in show business. The interviewer asked her about the Annie documentary. and she was very condescending towards some of the ladies in it; she said that the actresses in the national tour were wannabes and so on. She said only the Broadway production counted. She’s very bitter.
Do you know I just love Andrea McArdle before New documentary about biography history channel interview with oasr awesome picture awards TCM channel interview for years before New Year at least before New DVD more than usual until the same place looks like new 🆕 picture awards TCM hollywood netflix original post office box office hours in set up for years 1977 years 2012 2021 years before
It's looks good I love it so much it's looks like new 19977 Andrea McArdle and pay attention past life look back
She was burnt out and wanted to put it behind her. Later in life she realized she had to embrace it.
That guy with the “Annie” obsession is creepy AF.
Me too I love the best part I just love it so much it's looks like new 70s and 1977 new number of power outage in Spanish language arts center spot on Annie and cury Sau made it to the bank of America picture
1977 documentary about biography history channel VIP group legends tour guide Legends of 1977 in Spanish language arts center spot on show on doing live concert in person picture of the same place looks like new DVD theater speakers spoof show season Soopers spoof spoke show on doing live music 🎼🎶 ok with you I just got home from hollywood mail in stock shing for sale saved by 1977
Yup. Ew. He didn’t seem like he liked the show, he seemed like he liked the girls. Gross.
@@surlywithfabshoesright? Gross.
Where is this part?
19:28
Such a harsh horrible business
I kind of feel like some the women who played the orphans were trying to live in the past. You had an amazing opportunity and then it ended. That’s childhood, it doesn’t go on forever. But if you want to be famous as an adult, nothing is stopping you. Being butthurt for 20+ years accomplishes nothing. Sarah, Danielle, Alyssa, they all moved forward with their careers. They had some extremely unique experiences and they should be glad for that.
I don't agree with your take at all because I think putting children in a position where they can be famous is just wrong. An adult is capable of contextualizing "I am liked by the public for the thing I do," but a child is not capable of that kind of abstraction.
Their living in the past is a natural result of that kind of utterly bizarre upbringing. 99.99999% of people never experience universal praise from even the people they know, much less literal strangers. It's not fair to pin that on them. It doesn't matter if they loved it at the time, a parent's job is to recognize the pitfalls of things and how they might play out in the future.
Just as an aside, I'm not calling any of the parents of any of these kids bad parents, not even a little bit. I'm sure literally all of them had their kids best intentions in mind. I'm moreso bemoaning the illusion that celebrity culture forces on people.
Right? How dare these women recount their own lived experiences on a documentary they were asked to be in!1!1!!1!1
It’s more complicated. Plenty of them are happy post fame but it’s a journey
Were they not allowed to mention Andrea McArdle or something? Like the elephant in the room.
she wouldn’t talk anything about it because she probably loved it too much.
She has conflicted feelings about it. She's talked elsewhere about how she got so sick of the song Tomorrow for a while and wanted to distance herself from the show until she realized it was her legacy. @@coryzlife
From what I recall she wanted no part of this documentary. She processed it totally different apparently. She declined all interviews
She really dissed this documentary in an interview. She seemed very bitter and not kind about the other girls in other companies.
GREETINGS FROM KENTUCKY ALL BECAUSE YOU'RE FROM PHILADELPHIA YOU'RE TOUGH WASN'T BEING TOUGH AND IS A SENSE OF FALSE BRAVADO IT MEANS NOTHING PEOPLE THAT ACT UP AND MEAN AND RUDE ARE IN THE INSIDE VERY INSECURE OKAY DON'T WE HAVE ENOUGH BULLIES IN THIS WORLD IT'S OKAY TO SHOW EMOTION AND BE EMOTIONALLY VULNERABLE AND BE OPEN THIS IS ALL NARCISSISTIC OF BOLOGNA
Is Robyn's mom Jewish? What on earth would cause someone to be so vengeful toward a child? Were they angry with the mother? It was likely someone in the cast. Possibly someone from their hometown? Wow. Did she figure out who it was ever?
You'd be shocked to know who it was
Our culture for kids is so much worse now -
How so? There's now a greater cultural awareness around child abuse, and the abuse of girls and young women in particular.
45th anniversary celebration party years Annie and I have to be there by side effects from the past few years before New 1977 and pay 2012 2021 for years before New York times picture awards TCM channel interview review history books documentary about biography history channel VIP tickets tour guide Legends of view of power outage
Well... Lots of homophobia in the first 20 minutes of the documentary...
Right? Sad that these women had to be put through this business at a young age, but it’s also sad that they grew up around gay men and still became adults who think “men kissing men” are gross and weird. This documentary looks like it was filmed in the 90s/2000s, but still.
@@spinshocker do you know that it's looks good I just love it so much it's looks like timeless timeline time travel would be great deal made by the way I just love the same place looks like new 1999 1977 1982 1981 Alison Porter curly Sue she was still saved in her
They where kids -
children are treacherous and evil, what else can really be said?
So what? You saw men and women kissing as a child, didn't you? Why would two men be worse? @@kham6006
Show business is brutal on adults. It's no surprise that (some) children in the business end up bitter, cynical, jaded, in therapy, have bad parents, had traumatic experiences, or worse. It's telling that, in this documentary, Andrea McArdle is heard and seen briefly in photos, but not interviewed. Some of these girls had troubles and traumas; some better-adjusted and even grateful. Show Business is a "Hard-Knock Life" for anyone; especially young kids. I get that. But it seems that the people behind this documentary have an obvious axe to grind: They found the most angry and bitter cast members, with the most horrible experiences, and mostly interviewed them. I also do not appreciate the obvious homophobia in this documentary, and in some of the comments below. Being gay is a part of life. Grow up and get over it. To those cast members now well over 50, bitter, angry, still singing "It's A Hard Knock Life" slamming buckets and mops, you still have A LIFE. I suggest you make the most of your adult life now.
Concerning the homophobic parts of the documentary, I feel like you have to think of it from a child's perspective (plus this documentary came out in 2006, we were still in an era where men who knew how to dress & groom themselves well were called "metrosexuals"). As a bisexual man myself, I feel like they're more-so just reflecting on how they were thrown into an adult environment so early on in their lives, as opposed to generally looking at gay/bi men like we're freaks, which many people *still* think we are to this day. They also mention being shocked by the sight of naked women, prostitutes in the area during the original Broadway run, & drugs backstage. At 21:51, one of the orphans recalls trying to roll a joint out of paper towels for some weed they found backstage. Obviously most of this stuff isn't abnormal, and being gay is very much just a part of life, but when you're 7-13 years old in the late 70s/early 80s (the start of the AIDS epidemic and all of the extra stigma attached to queer people), of course it's gonna seem a little odd & unusual. The way they describe it all in the documentary seem to have some homophobic undertones to it, but I feel like they might have been thinking of it from their 10 year old selves' perspectives as well.
Oh boo hoo hoo.... whine and gripe because they got older and grew out of the parts they played. That is life kids. Thats show business.
This is surprisingly trashy
Strange homophobic sequence there for a minute or two.
Well, in context, the topic discussed is premature exposure to adult themes.
The point they're making is that children should not be exposed to sex or sexuality.
Let alone the drugriddled streets of NYC in the 80's.
This was the worst show they ever did on Annie. Annie is and always will be Andres Mcardle sorry all.others but Your in the shadow of Andrea.
I love Andrea and saw her on Broadway when I was 8. You don’t seem to be giving enough credit to these talented women. Andrea could not play the role forever. It’s thanks to these actors that the show continued and brought entertainment and enjoyment to so many through the years.
refreshing to hear theatre people notice it’s not right to be gay and dress up like women