Why Did This DSG Transmission FAIL?
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The Direct-Shift Gearbox (DSG) transmission, developed by VW, traces its history back to the early 2000s when it was first introduced in the MK4 R32 in Europe. This transmission combines the efficiency of a manual transmission with the convenience of an automatic, DSG quickly gained popularity and became a benchmark for dual-clutch transmission technology in the automotive industry.
Today we tear apart the 6 Speed DSG Transmission out of our MK5 R32!
This Trans had problems being stuck in 2nd gear, would go into limp mode with the PRNDS lights flashing, had a loud clicking noise while idle, and had a nasty whine noise on deceleration. We had a feeling that our R32 would need a transmission, so we pulled this one out and saved it for this video! we wanted to tear apart this DSG to both see how these transmissions work and find the damage left behind!
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“Rear end Ravager” is NUTS!
Sounds like a gay slur. 🫣
My eyes popped out of my head at work lol
Bro didn’t want to say it but also wanted to say it
That can have two meanings LOL
I literally popped open the comments to type just that, lmao
It always amazes me the engineering complexity that goes into parts like this.
People get so upset when any car part isn't completely bulletproof, to me it's amazing any of them ever work at all
@@nah3193 Exactly, when u know how it works, u think like damn! how is this working right now at 5000 rpm without a bolt that is 1mm offset, make it explode, beautiful engineering.
@@Dexspic wait y'alls aren't exploding?
Yeah, baffling how much engineering goes into making such an unreliable piece of machinery.
HOW are electric cars more expensive when they don't need all this junk plus all the junk in a modern vvt, turboed, watercooled, computer controlled engine. Shirley they will end up much less expensive once 50% of vehicle production moves to electric drivetrains.
What I learned today is that when a Mommy Clutch, and a Daddy Clutch, love each other very much. They make a DCT.
I used to work in a factory that produced the automatic transmissions. They had a model of the whole thing with parts exposed etc. Still blows my mind that all these individual gears work together so effortlessly
If you actually work in a factory that made them you would know these aren’t automatic transmissions
@@nerdneckbrodski731He never said that this was an auto, just that he worked in a factory producing them. Hence his use of the word "the" instead of "these". Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit I see.
@@nerdneckbrodski731Troll account.
@@nerdneckbrodski731 if u actually knew how to read you would know he wasnt referring to the transmission in the video
@@nerdneckbrodski731 A direct-shift gearbox (DSG, German: Direktschaltgetriebe) is an electronically controlled, dual-clutch, multiple-shaft, automatic gearbox.
This was HILARIOUS!! Definitely need a drunk teardown series!
I have a Skoda Yeti 4x4 with 6 speed wet clutch DSG. With 228,000km (142,000 miles) I have the oil changed as it's required in every 60,000km (38,000 miles). So far so good, I love it.
Always enjoy the information provided in these videos. You guys are doing a public service. Showing the internals of something like this shed light on what a customer car is doing internally. Very interesting stuff. Good job Paul (and the crew )
I've had a VW 6 spd manual in an MK8 GTI and recently a DSG in an MK8 R. The DSG is an amazing piece of engineering and as much as I love manuals, I feel the DSG is the proper transmission for the Golf R. As an $800 USD option it's a steal.
No kidding. VW didn't put enough development into the manual anyway. The DSG works so well. As much as I thought about getting a MK8 GTI manual, there's nothing wrong with my MK7.5 DSG car and so I stage 1 tuned and did the DSG tune. It's amazing what these trans can handle just by a tune. Fluid changes aren't too expensive considering. VW dumped a lot of money into development of the DSG and it shows.
@@HeathRS For real the 6 speed in my mk4 is made from glass.
@@godlyname8544Mk4 6-speed one of the most reliable transmissions ever made. Must be your technique 😉
@@MattyEngland When you granny shift it, its maybe reliable. Not when you try to be faster.
@@MattyEngland Reliable but slow to shift down, double clutching all the time when I had my 04 Cupra R xD
The synchronizer rings really werent the best on those.
I remember taking one apart at school, to then cut some bits open, create a sort of exploded view, not really exploded view but I hope you get the point, and put it all back together, so the trans could be seen operating to teach new students about this type of transmission (We have also done a CVT and a regular auto aswell before that). Very interesting technique there and I did find it a lot of fun to do, I really enjoyed it....
Paul I love when you make videos. Hilarious I always laugh and learn. You and Charles are my favorite vw techs ever
Thanks for another fine video. Always enjoyable and I dig your sense of humor.
Poor people can afford metal in their paint. Rich people can afford metal in their oil..
I can't believe how well the clutch disks look for 200k
Wet clutches are the standard on motorcycles for a reason. With regular oil changes, they tend to last the life of the engine.
@@avi-tar2827 yes but we're talking about a DQ250 which I've seen smoked clutch packs in as little as 40k haha
They might have been previously replaced and not the originals?
@@2strokeFORever mine just smoked out i think, at 137k 6k to replace
I have one at 250k and it is still completely trouble free on the original clutch pack
An actual true, entertaining, educational, funny automotive tutorial. Thank you
All these years working on cars.. never really understood a DCT transmission.. and you basically did in 10 minutes what teachers failed to do in multiple classes. You taught me how to break my transmission and make it fun.
I'm not an enthusiast but do like VW.
I bought a 2-year old Passat wagon not being excited about maintenance and complexity of the DSG. Found that I liked it and when I added a 2018 Golf to my fleet, I really noticed the difference between a standard auto and DSG.
Not sure my next car will be a VW but if so, I'll be wanting a DSG transmission for sure.
Zf8 speed is just as and more reliable
@@thetechlibrarian Yep. Just recently drove a 2020 VW Tiguan TDI 4Motion with the DSG. That pause when you press the gas is annoying as hell, just like in my old 2016 Smart Forfour Twinamic (also a Dual clutch transmission on these later models.)
However when I drove the current BMW 3 series with the ZF8 speed it was the real game changer. Never have I ever driven a better automatic, flawless shifts, smooth, fast, goes instantly.. loved it.
The gearbox goblin! I'm dead. Stealing that one, thanks Paul!
Watching Paul "technician" things will never, ever get old!!!!! As a fellow "technician" I relate so much to these videos lol!
I love my dq250. A tune and adaption of paddle shifters... amazing performance
im not sure whats so different about this episode, but i love it
AMAZING VIDEO!!! Entertaining and informative.
Great video gentlemen. I am sure that magnetic nonmagnetic part tray is right next to the Paul comes to your home and installs it feature. 🤣 I look forward to the next video.
just... EPIC! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for the laughs Paul and kudos to the editor 👏
I have a 2008 Volkswagen Rabbit 5-speed manual going on 198k. Runs like a champ 🇩🇪
I loved my 2014 VW cc dsg with a tune. Shifts were so fast and smooth. It would absolutely crack your neck when it downshifted and launched. Much smoother than these new auto transmissions constantly shifting 8+ gears before 55 with their clunking and lurching.
It's possible to tune the DSG?
@@viniciusbembea yes, its very noticable
Whoever did that, im pretty impressed with the amount of metal in that thing!! Congratulations!
Bout time you posted I’ve been waiting
199,000 miles on my mk6 DSG. Love the gearbox!
Taking into consideration how complex and fast DSG is, I would not complain on its reliability. My VW DUU manual gearbox stopped my car in an instant while on the second gear near the mall. I didn't know what happened. After few minutes it came back to life just to explode few days later (literally it made a hole in itself).
Oh those 02K gearboxes, those get very unreliable with age, we had em' replaced twice on our family Skoda Octavia (for muricans, it's just a VW Golf in a liftback form) for 170k kms of ownership, and it seems that it hasn't had its original box when we bought it with 160k on the clock (might've been rolled back though, usual stuff over here). Yours probably had its diff rivet shooting through the box's case, it's one of the multitude issues with this tranny, and probably the worst one.
@@Agu_Ra indeed. Mine died just after 230k. It is a typical mileage for them to die if they don't have to tow anything during their lifetime. I got mine changed for cheap for another DUU that has been working fine for the last 3 years. Thankfully, for me the time to change to the 2.0 TSI 3B is coming. I can't wait to get my hands on the new car.
My dsg is going strong at 230k miles so far, it's been stage 2 or k04 for probably 12-13 years. Outlasted the first engine. I am on my second mechatronics though
So you spend thousands to keep it going then, mechatronics are not a cheap replacement.
The clutch packs remind me of motorcycle packs. My Troc R has one of these boxes, love seeing what goes on inside the transmission.
First time watching this channel and i gotta say i like what i see. I just wish there was an unbleeped version i love watching channels where they are not afraid to just speak what they want and show their real personality.
I wonder if the DSG broke due to lack of services. I’m hoping to keep mine way longer than 200k miles and I’ve been doing the service Every 40k 😅
Ditto! Every 40K miles I take my 2013 Passat TDI SEL Premium in for its DSG Trannie flush/fill. Have 110K on the odometer and she's still kicking. 🙏
Tuning is probably going to exacerbate wear.
Too less frequent fluid changes chould have sped up the bearing destruction. Getting beat up could have been another case.
My DSG broke because the the metal plate that holds the start/stop system to the gearbox came loose and fell into the gearbox.. Result was a big hole in the DSG :')
Heard a while after that it's a known problem for the mk 7.5 R and VW never bothered to send any recall info.
DSG is the best. Many world records have been taken with stock DSG transmissions. No problem with over 1000hp on the DQ500
Hi I had a 2006 touareg V6 diesel. Towed a unic mini crane behind all over Ireland and the UK full towing limit. 534,000 Kms , only replaced the air mass module and drive chain for fuel pump. Serviced ahead of schedule. Absolutely brilliant machine with dsg. Miss it. Ger in Ireland
I love that you guys get find these cars that are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse than mine. makes me feel better about stuff
I’m hoping to see a video of someone repairing one of these transmissions. There are rebuild kits available on several transmission websites.
Hello, I have a question outside the topic of this video.
I have a 2017 golf gti.
I have 2 coilover options:
Bilstein B14 PSS and Bilstein Evo S, which of the 2 would be the best option, knowing that I am looking for COMFORT more than anything.
I had three different cars with DSG, DCT same tech and they all were spectacular. Smooth, reliable and fuel efficient.. May be I was lucky, or not unlucky or maybe this tech already matured when I had those 2011 and 2020, and 2023 model cars...
In my experience the box itself is fairly bulletproof, problems are 99% mechatronics related. Can often be fixed fairly cheaply too if you scan and find the faulty actuators which can be found on the web fairly easily. I've fixed a few liek this and never had a comeback on them.
How did you find out which actuators needed to be changed?
@@viniciusbembea Scan the transmission for codes, it will usually tell you which valve has intermittent or total failure.
thats why i like zf's sun moon gear design over this , you take out a lot bearing load in the process
My mk7 GTI has the DSG and it’s really really good.
Well done, good explanation, thanks.
i really loved this video, thankyou
0:21 thank You 🙏,
I needed to hear that!
Dq381 had a recall for the internal oil pump bolts getting loose. Had to replace the bolts if they didn't destroy the trans so they made a service kit for carrying out the repair
Do you sell a rebuild kit for DSG?
Also, does it include all the seals?
Thanks.
Best Show on youutube hands down!!
EXCELLENT video!
Seems to me like regular fluid changes would go a long ways to keeping these transmissions alive. They look like a big dirt bike trans with the addition of some electronics to control the up/down shifts.
Bearings inside of anything don't last forever. Keeping with earlier than later fluid changes would keep many components from failing. But, the Mk5 didn't have TCU tuning back in the day - so, if it were ever tuned that could have been the segway.
Cool video,very informative!!😊
I’ve got a MKV TDI. Maybe 230k mls. That transmission is SO much nicer than the automatic in my Buick, which I now daily drive. Hope that when I get my TDI fully built the transmission still holds up.
I have a mk6 golf gti with 100 miles on it, i do hear somtimes multiple click sounds when i switch gear between p r and d, if its like the gear is slipping and taking time to be on, i do change dsg oil every 30miles any help in this matter?. Thx for this informative video and channel.
That one is pretty good great intro!
Is it at any hope to get a dry clutch 7 speed dsg (dq200 if i remember correctly) demolished to the bench?
I just bought an A3 that has a slight rythmatic thud when coasting at low speeds. after replacing a bunch of surrounding stuff I have found my DSG is making the noise. I can get the the noise to stop whenever I put the car in neutral. I have a kit to do filter and fluid so hopefully that fixes this mess.
Nice video. There was one fault: The oil pump is not driven by the transmission but by the ICE. That is the reason why this tiny shaft is going through the whole transmission to the end.
If it would be driven by the transmission there would be no oil pressure at stand still.
I’ve never seen so much chaos and destruction in one video. As borat once said - very nice!
This is a nice video,,, STARTING FROM WHICH YEAR MODEL HAS GOOD DSG TRANSMISSIONS???
If you want no quirks, I would pick any DSG on the MQB platform. As a personal MK6 DSG GTI owner. I love the car, and the transmission. BUT, as people have mentioned and in this video, cars like to lurch from a stop, it being cold can make it act weird, and if you're not ready for a high repair cost if it ever needs to be taken care of, don't buy one, stick with a manual. Even with my GTI being taken care of, and having both of it's DSG services being done on time, it still likes to act weird.
Gotta love Paul!
Yes , you CAN buy some parts. Including "that" gasket. See Diagnose Dan recent vid on a dsg solinoid update on an audi dsg. Good luck on finding that bearing though.
Personally, for a fun car you cannot beat a decent manual. Yes autos and dual clutches can sometimes make the car faster and more economical but they remove a level of driver involvement.
Yes, like missed shifts, at critical moments, and grinding.
Honestly have been watching all of these videos because of Paul’s personality he’s too funny
How heavy is the dq250? Can it be carried by hand? I want to install an lsd but dont have a shop or engine hoist I can use
The first DSG equipped car in the US was the 2004 New Beetle TDI. Those early boxes had some really odd behavior, particularly on cold days. I recall my 06 GLI would sometime lurch (!) on start on cold mornings. They seemed to have ironed out most of the problems with the S-Tronic box that is in my 18 A4, except for servicing costs. I thought VW was going to "dry clutch" DSGs that used much less fluid. Guess that didn't pan out.
They used dry clutch DSGs on some of the lower-end cars in the rest of the world. The 1.4 TSI twin charged engine for example I think could be had with a 7-speed dry DSG. That whole combo was horrifically unreliable, so yeah, that didn't pan out
@@tally5k339 The Jetta Hybrid had a dry clutch 7-speed DSG, too. I don't think it was quite as problematic as other applications of the same transmission, likely because it didn't need to slip the clutch to get moving in most situations since it almost always started in electric only mode.
Technically, the first U.S. car with a DSG was the 2003 Audi TT 3.2, but the 2004 New Beetle TDI was the first VW in the U.S. with the DSG.
My mom has an 2015 A3 1.4 TSI hatchback, which she got new and has been with it since, back in Brazil. This model has the DQ200 transmission (dry clutch DSG), and it is pretty amazing, but it indeed has that infamous unrealiabiity history due to being 'fragile'. This year the trans failed all of a sudden, then she took it to Audi and they covered the services for its replacement, given she did all the services regularly there.
It took them 2 months to repair it (mostly due to having to wait for parts to come) and the bill was around 8k USD (rough convertion to the 40k BRL bill), which is nuts considering the car is estimated at around 75k BRL, so more than half the value of it....
Had Audi not covered the repair, it would certainly be scrapped. Apart from that, the car still looks and runs great tho.
The present 1.5 litre Renault Scenic Mk4 7 speed dual clutch automatic gearbox has two dry clutches which means the gearbox oil remains much cleaner for much longer. So far I have not ben able to find a garage to change my 1.5 litre Renault Scenic 7speed dual clutch gearbox oil.
I do not trust any dealer garage because after over 50 years of driving I have had to conclude that all the dealer networks are interested in is selling you a new car. I have no doubts that they would be strongly tempted to sabotage the car you already have. I now have 30.000 miles on the clock and I am still trying to find some decent garage or mechanic to change it for me!.
Would love to see this guy tear apart a getrag DPS6 (Focus DSG)
the only time I ever heard of a failure it was the trans controller.
not sure what caused it to go bad. but it had to get sent over seas to be reprogrammed
thanks, very good educational video.
SO, what if i replaced that bearing. (and seals) but used rest of the old parts? Would it work normally?
Is the second noise(with the bang with half a second in between) related directly to the trans? Never had any other signs but occasionally it's banging on idle when im at a red light. Please enlighten me how to fix that if it's the trans😭
How do they know which gear is the "next gear"? It could be up or down. I'm assuming based on RPM?
Actually, the MKIV R32 came to the US in 2004 with 6 speed manual only. I still have mine and it is great
Didn’t know I needed this 😭😭😭😂
I would like to ask if the C-line clamp ring of the gear box can be purchased?
11:54 is there a possibility this parking pawl could fail due to low transmission fluid. And would doing a oil service fix this problem. As i suspect this part failed due to low dsg oil on my vehicle im using bcoz of low oil it is now making it harder for the part to disengage. My vehicle can go into D but move forward a slight inch then locks. (I have no faults on box only says low transmission fluid) .
"non-serviceable" what are we supposed to do if the dsg craps out on us? Are we having to buy a new one? Or risking buying a used one from the junkyard? Are they supposed to last forever with scheduled fluid changes? Thanks for putting together all these great vids!
Lots of things are unserviceable. Wouldn't worry about it.
Is there any good video changing clutch pack on DSG7?
its a very good transmision, here you can see that somebody didint make oil changes and a bearing goes missing, normal thing if you dont change oil in 50/60k km, in europe you can get rebuilt set for this trans.
I’ve had an MkV Golf 1.9TDi with one of these and although, I had to spend just over £600 on it to replace the flywheel or the clutch(?) if I remember right, it was the gearbox that changed my view on auto gearboxes. I’ve had various Mercedes (SL, 190E, C/E 4/6 cylinders) and some awful Subarus (Outback/Impreza) with auto gearboxes, but no other gearbox came close to the speed, convenience and comfort of this. I still toy with the idea of getting either an auto GTI or an A3 with one of these.
Hi, how are you ? What a great channel you have, congratulations!! I need a little of your experience. I am in Colombia where they don't know much about Volkswagen and I have a 2020 Golf GTI that I repaired after a crash, but it suddenly stopped starting. and it no longer wants to turn on, I need your experience please to determine what it could be. I have scanned it a couple of times. I am willing to pay you for advice. here in the workshops they don't know what to do, thank you very much in advance and I hope you will help me
Great and timely video. Bottom line: are these DSG units bad? I hear that they are very jerky in city driving and are best at freeway speeks. I was thinking of buy a '24 Tiguan, but I don't want headaches in the future. Happy holidays and Happy New Year. Thanks you.
Test drive?And no they aren't jerky.
They are not great in city traffic. The mech box does not like unpredictable on again off again throttle, like queuing in crawling traffic, idiots doing surprising things in front of you, etc. Jerks all the time. Queues uphill are horrible and you will wish you had a slush box to mush along.
THERE IS Always "BUT" with VW. Tiguan have DQ500 wich is best DSG ( for heavy cars),but some have DQ500 and inside is mechatronic from DQ381 ( wich can have dtc P13500,P13600). Now DQ381 is GEN2,hope that this problems are resolved). DSG dont like too much Heat, after 250 miles driving is good to stop and cool down oil in DSG. Some tuners Like TVS have option in maps for termal management wich can be good. Because this problems wich All DSG have for now best oil is MOTUL Multi. Also for high temperature in engines Motul 8100 (Ester oils "Group V").
Picked up a 2016 Tiguan DSG last week and love it. I am probably going to retrofit the paddles though as I'm not kern on going around roundabouts and junctions in 3rd and 4th and would like to shift down
I have a 2019...not Tiguan but the Seat equivalent (still VW). Not jerky. And unlike the manual version of the car, the adaptive cruise control works right down to 0mph, aka "traffic jam mode". And there's an auto-coast function to save fuel. It drives nice. Still feels like a bit of a lottery because it would be so expensive if it failed. But I can keep renewing the warranty.
I have driven a car with a DSG gearbox for years. It doesn't get any better, drives extremely well.
I have for the first time a car with automatic transmition (DSG7) and I like it. 4 years until now. I am happy with it
This felt like a Steve Carell transmission tutorial 😊😊
I have 7 speed DSG in my Skoda with 1.6TDI CR engine and my workshop states that it is not possible to replace the fluid in this DSG. Is this true?
Hello what do you think about the 1.5 tsi engine is reliable?
Have a stronic gearbox in my Audi it makes a high pitch squeal when moving off and shifting into 3rd any ideas what the issue might be?
Sorry I don’t you should bring to a specialist to diag
DSG is honestly really reliable, even the mech units have become alot better with time, rarely see any issues with them at the shop anymore compared to what it used to be like. Recently had a freak outlier DSG in a brand new Caddy (not even delivered yet) with a bad clutch pack but thats about it. otherwise if we ever have DSG issues at the shop it is usually on the smaller ones with the dry clutch packs or something older coming in to just diagnos it.
hello sir, I've got a 7 speed dry clutch DSG coupled to a 1.0 TSI engine (car is from 2017). The last 6 months I noticed the car is not as smooth as it once was when driving a low speeds, especially when it's slipping the clutch in 2nd gear at very low speeds, the whole thing doesn't seem to be happy and there is a slight (slight for now) noise coming from what I think is the gearbox. Should I get this thing checked (I always go to the main dealer for regular servicing)? At first I thought maybe the clutch or dual mass flywheel (or both) need replacing but now that I see ball bearings being destroyed in the gearbox I'm getting more worried. I've got 65k miles on the clock. Any advice? Thanks in advance. The car drives absolutely fine otherwise, it's just at low speeds. Also it can be very clunky on the downshift from 3rd to 2nd and from 2nd into first (it kind of depends how hard you're decelerating). Thanks!
@@SlosII for the driveability and clunky gear changes there is a procedure from factory that your dealer should be able to find. The dry clutch DSGs can also be a little clunky when cold because they do intentionally slip the clutches when getting going from standing when they are cold to heat up the clutches faster. As for the noise its hard to really say much without checking it since alot of stuff can make noise, but bearing issues are really uncommon, never had a DSG with bearing issues that i can remember. As a tech i would say advise with your local shop and try and detail it as much as possible for them. Stuff like when/how it happens so like is it when the car is cold or up to temp, outside temp, weather conditions, road conditions in general, certain maneuvers. Basically anything you can think of to narrow it down. Or even have a tech ride along and show what happens can be a good thing.
@@soapmcsoapface1787thank you, sir.
My 2012 passat diesel has a wet clutch DSG and the transmission itself seems really solid. Holding my tune pushing 300 foot pounds or so.. only issue is the dual mass flywheels suck and wear out. Mine wants to explode badly but has not yet thankfully
VW says they are supposed to last 300.000km that aint even 200k miles...
The DSG ain't reliable at all when compared to manual or torque converter automatic transmissions
I’m currently having a solenoid valve 4 error on my 08 golf. Stuck in 3rd gear, I’m guessing I need a new mechatronic for sure
Does changing the DSG oil more often gives more life span?
Been wondering how it works for a while and if a DSG conversion from manual is even possible
It is possible, and expensive.
Had a dsg on my old car (just a seat leon fr) and it was awesome
Is there any good way to diagnose a DSG box without stripping? Mines for example slips when changing into 2, 4 and 6th only by 200-300 revs apart from that drives normal no other slippage, it does have a TCU tune as it modded and I am having a hardtime seeing if software is at fault or hardware.
Probably a clutch pack issue but diagnosing it specifically is very hard.
Generally most DSG problems are either the mech unit or the clutch pack. Pinpointing which one is often not possible. This means you have to either attempt to replace the parts or put a used transmission in.
As vehicles get higher mileage we generally recommend a known good used trans as it’s often the most cost effective way to guarantee the vehicle is repaired.
Wich DSG? Is it DQ381?
Can't believe they don't make replacement parts. Basically you'll be throwing out a transmission that was fine apart from a single bearing. But then again for the VW group, it's not really a surprise. The one question I have though, it can select two gears, one that you're driving with and a future gear. How does it know if the next gear change will be up or down?!
Thanks for the fun video!
I can’t say for certain but it’s probably programmed to look for user input and body movement. If you’re on the gas pedal it knows that you’re going to continue moving up through the gears so it queues next gear, if you remove your foot from the accelerator, it can likely assume you’re going to slow down and it needs to queue a lower gear - if I were to guess - I’m sure there are a ton of other sensor input and programming things but what I’ve explained is probably 80% of it.
Got a mk5 gti with one, it's all in the software, if you downshift while cruising it will take a good second to downshift and it will be a bit harsh. If you downshift while braking or starting to accelerate it's fast and smooth as.
What about the 09g auto trans? Would you say it's reliable?
When we gonna get a video of Paul trying to rebuild a DSG? I would've like to see what the transmission would've sounded like with replacing the FUBAR'd bearing.
ShopDap rebuilt DSGs.
Never
Awesome video
I think the 2004 diesel beetle with a DSG was was actually delivered in the US before the MK5 GTI. I was selling VW’s at the time and distinctly remember getting a TDI beetle for the lot that came with a DSG well before any MK5 GTI’s showed up.
the MK4 Golf R32 was the first to have it
You’re right the TDI beetle was the first VW in the US to have a DSG.
edited original comment to clarify "in the US"@@SB68SS
I was "and still am" a total VW geek 20 years ago. I completely nerded out when a random beetle showed up with a DSG. I probably tried to sell that car to every person who walked in the door. "This car has a DSG, it's the first in the US!!" I was the one who sold it, but probably to some cosmetics sales rep or something. @@Deutscheautoparts
My 2006 TDI (BRM) Jetta (us spec) came with a DSG and i love it! 389k and on its second clutch! Still going strong!
I bought an audi rs3 early this year and they only come with a DSG. Its actually the sturdiest dsg vw builds, the DQ500 , which is actually rated for 600NM, weird right? tho they supposedly handle 800nm stock and up to 1000 on upgraded clutches very well. a coworker complains about the 250 or 381 not being very happy with handeling more than stock power.
I miss the feeling of a manual but this thing does it pretty well i would say. it is a perfect bridge between comfort, effiency and "sportyness". Put it into manual and you feel like racing driver, pulling peddals, smashing in the next gear. you can even "manually" shift with the stick but vw/audi fucked up the orientation. so you pull on the shifter for down and push for up. Porsche does it the other way arround like in every sequential you see on rally cars and such. Works very well but it can get "overwhelmed" when you shift into a gear it didnt expect. like when you want to downshift from 3rd to 2nd but were crusing before so it had 4th selected. takes a second before it shifts the appropriate gear and then engages it.
The DQ500 isn't the sturdiest of the variants, that title belongs to the DQ800 which is found on the second gen R8s and Lambo Huracans. The 800 can handle over 1200Nm with stage 3 race clutch packs. The DQ500 and DL501 (longitudinal engine variant) are near identical in specs and I believe the mechatronic units for both boxes are the same. I've run TVS stage 2+ TCU tune on my stage 2+ B8 S4 and it has totally transformed how the car drives. Butter smooth up/down shifts in normal drive mode and satisfying DSG farts when giving it some. But like you I'm totally sold on this type of transmission and absolutely love it. Also looking forward to when I eventually upgrade to a C7 (or C7.5 if budget allows) RS6 next spring. I can see why people are wary of them though, but I simply ignored all the internet hate on them as the known faults were widely exaggerated and quickly ironed out with recalls on the first gen units with lower quality oil that allowed sulphur buildup/failure on the mechatronic units.