The DSG Transmission Explained - How A DSG Transmission Works, Advantages, & Cars That Have Them
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- ►For decades, automatic transmissions have been viewed as the antithesis of performance by most automotive enthusiasts. Power-sapping torque converters, glacially slow shifting, and driver feedback described as vague at best, are some of the key complaints about older 'traditional' automatics. With the DSG transmission, a dual-clutch automatic, Volkswagen and Audi revolutionized the industry, providing an efficient option that offers reliability and race car-like performance for the masses.
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00:00 - Intro
00:36 - What Is a DSG?
07:11 - Dual Clutch Transmissions
09:02 - Advantages/Disadvantages
12:42 - DSG Service
18:39 - DSG Types
25:46 - DSG Farts
27:42 - Wrap-Up
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This is how a presentations should be done! Thank you!
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Me: Why would I spend 30 minutes watching a transmission video about the cars I love?
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Thank you guys for this! Production value and info are top shelf. 🇩🇪 💪
Whoever made a script for this video should get a raise... very informative and easy to comperhend. I bought Skoda Kodiaq with DSG transmission, and since im coming from organic 6 speed 3.0 engine, DSG is rather easy to drive. But to understand what really goes under the hood, that is another thing. Thank you for sharing this knowledge God Bless❤
Wow, that was fantastic, really great presentation and explanation of all of the DSG transmissions in a way someone who knows very little about transmissions can understand. I'm going to watch the servicing DSG transmissions video now.
Awesome, glad that you enjoyed it! Let us know if you have any questions
Great video, dsg lover
@@fcpeuro Excellent information. I am facing issue with my Skoda superb 2010 where even number gears amd reverse are not engaged. My mechanic has suggested complete transmission change.
It would help if you can suggest what may be the issue.
I do not believe my mechanic understands the real issue.
Thank you again for this video. This helps us novices in understanding things which we have no clue about.
My first experience with DSG was a 2.0tdi Passat 2008. That thing was impressive and fun for +1700kg.
Thank you so much FCP!
‘14 Jetta TDI w/ rawtek kit and tunes for ecu and tcu. Pushing 135k miles now and noticed a hard shift yesterday full throttle. Now I know what I need to do and what to expect in the future!! Thanks agains
I love the FCP videos. Great source of information on VAG cars. Please, don’t ever stop!!!
Best breakdown of the dual clutch I've seen so far 👍👍
The clarity, technical information and scope of the DSG is comprehensive - as the presenter speaks with confidence and knowledge. Absolutely Super.
Thank you Boris!
@@fcpeuro I currently have a 2017 Passat Estate 2.0 TDI DSG and the gearbox was becoming increasing clunky as slow speed. Two weeks later this awful noise on idle at 850rpm at standstill. Unknowingly on removing the box, the flywheel was heavily covered in metal dust, the clutch assy was cracked and bits of metal broke off lying at the bottom of the bell housing. This car has only covered 49,956miles!
Awesome description man thanks for your time explaining it all 🙂
Well You convinced me. I just traded in my manual GTI S for a DSG GTI Autobahn 👍
Great video and explanation.
You are amazing man, love how you just get straight to the point. Great video guys!
What a great in-depth video i dont even have a dsg but you made the whole topic interesting. Kind of like a Sir David Attenborough documentary. Sometimes it's not a topic you want to watch but after watch it your amazed.
thank you for putting out a very good informative video. 👍
Excellent video, really well explained. I would also like to thank you all at FCP Euro for helping me out, Audi in the UK and Germany were out of stock of a cylinder head bolt for some warranty work on my C7 RS6, you guys had stock and sent it to me in a few days, so thank you very much for helping me. FCP Euro is a really good option, if you can’t get the part in Europe, it’s worth trying them as the shipping cost was very reasonable.
Thanks for this video. It answered all my questions. Very clear and concise!
This really helps explain the transmission in my new to me 2016 Passat VR6, thanks guys!
I absolutely loved this video!!!
You have given a Master Class on DSGs. I have driven manual transmission VWs since 1983. My first auto is my current 2015 Passat. It OK, but not inspiring… I am buying an 2023 Arteon SEL Premium 4Motion in May for my birthday. Looking forward to the DSG Transmission. I am planning on tuning the car!
Congrats man, hope you like it! Those are beautiful, make it a monster! 😤
What an excellent description of a DSG transmission with fantastic graphics.
Glad you liked it!
Very informative and well put together video! Thanks.
Super informative. Great job guys!
love the video! Also I have a stage 1+ 2017 Gli (dsg) I took it to the dealership to get an alignment and while I was waiting I asked to drive a new gti (dsg) 2019. I didn't like the car either it just doesn't snap gears like the dsg in my car. I told that to the dealership guy and he thought I was crazy lol thank you for proving my point.
Thanks for all the explication! Finally some proper Info about DSG Gearbox.
Thank you so much I just bought a mk6 gti and I've been having lots of transmission issues with this lately so this helps a lot.
mechatronic issues most likely
Very informative and well explained. Thanks for a great vid.
DSG such as dq200 and dq400e could be interesting to hear about! Great video
I really wanted a manual TDI Mk6 Golf but there wasn’t a good one around so I settled with DSG and I’m very happy with it. Very great performance for an automatic I still prefer the fun of a clutch though. My flywheel is about to need replacement though so I’m gonna add a Wavetrac LSD while I’m in there.
i just purchased a s4 first video i came looking for. first time audi owner coming from Mercedes. well explained i believe maintenance is key to any thing never had any issues with amgs hoping the same here if maintained correctly. cheers for the vid
What an excellent and well rounded video! Thank you.
Our pleasure!
Great video! I have a Mk7 GTI with a DQ250, loooove it! Among other mods, my favorite has to be the 3" valved Varex exhaust. In straight pipe mode, I get DSG *cracks* that sound absolutely glorious. Bonus is that when I wanna go low-profile, I just hit a button on the fob, and I'm as quiet as stock. Nothin' to see here! 😏
@Pipa Obala It's not too bad around the city for me, but I agree the clutch engagement is a bit clunky at times, particularly when parked downhill and you have to reverse, and vice versa. First gear likes to diddle sometimes, too.
Sweet 😁
Thanks for your reply really helpful Thanks again man 👨.
Great explanation DSG, thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge.
thanks for the info, my father and I are planning on getting a new GTI, at least new to us, a 2012 4door GTI with DSG, all these tips and info are really appreciated. Our current project car was a Mk4 Gti, but we think it is time to move. take care guys and always thanks for these kind of videos
Awesome, the Mk6 DSG platform can be a lot of fun, and they look great in the 4-door. The suspension design and driving experience going from the Mk4 to the Mk6 will be a world of difference for sure.
I just got a 2016 Volkswagen golf GTI with the DSG I'm concerned about the reliability of the transmission though specifically about creepin and stop and go traffic I heard that can destroy the transmission
Excellent presentation! Been trying to find such to
explain why we are impressed with our 2019 Audi RS 3
transmission. This is the presentation that all can
understand!
Watched again today, to help explain the transmission to a friend who considering buying an Audi RS 3 as warm weather arrives and some Audi RS 3's may actually be available this year. Again, a great presentation!
And again at the gas station this morning. A new RS 3 owner looking for a good Audi RS 3 technical web page. Sent him here ofcourse!
Great video.6 speed DSG for the win
Fantastic presentation. You really know your stuff bro. Thumbs uppp!
pretty fantastic video Nate! glad to see your teaching in some way or another ;-)
Best video so far I have watched about DSG
Amazingly complete presentation! Thanks for the heads up re: the 7 speed (2018+ GTI) having softer shifts. That sucks.
Really good vid mate. Thank you
Learned a lot, nice vid team!
WOW! Excellent teaching video. Thank you.
Very informative and presented very well, thank you!
Really excellent explanation! Thanks!
Very informative. Thank you!
Great video. Thanks for sharing this information.
Thanks so much, love these videos!
Wow man amazing video very informative keep it up!!!
did not press forward button :) THANK YOU!
Hands down that is got to be the best explanation of DSG boxes now this is got me thinking perhaps I should buy one a 2020 21 onwards I'm presuming here in the UK it would be a 7-speed DSG well done boss you explained it and take away some of my fears don't get the business about farts
Great video Well presented and very interesting knowledge thanks.
Tremendous information! Muchos Gracias. X
Excellent video!! Thank you
Superb presentation!
Killer video! Nailed every part of this video!
Excellent presentation.
Great information.
A brilliant presentation.
This is amazing! Thank you!!! 😊😊
Love my mk5 GTI DSG is awesome just had it serviced put over 200k on the car and knock on wood still shifts good
Itll stil be buttery smooth I'm sure!
Great walk-through, really informative 👍. I have a Dl501 in my 3.0tdi. Heard that it's only good up to 600Nm torque on standard clutchplates, is that your experience?
This was a really great video
We appreciate that Jason!
A great video. Thanks so much.
Thank you for a really great video! Is the process the same for the DQ500 gear type?
This is the best and most thorough explanation I've watched for a layman as myself. Thank you for it.
I have a 2014 Jetta Sportwagen TDI with the DSG, where would you recommend I start with mods to get a sportier feeling out of my engine/transmission combination?
Thanks so for your video 📹 on transmissions love it hands 👐 down!
I track my 2015 S3, and I get a rough shift every once in a while. I figured it was something I was doing. Now I'm 100% sure, it's me. If I come into a corner and brake hard down shift, it's all good. If I come into a corner, brake hard down shift feather the gas and try try and down shift before another corner it's not happy. I need to get better at making sure the tcu knows what gear I want next. Also I was surprised to hear the dsg really holds up well on the track. I change my dsg fluid every 2 years with about 6 tracks days and only 12k miles. It sounds like it might be overkill. I'm pushing about 400 whp with 90k miles on her, so I want to keep the car running strong. Great video
might need a new clutch pack
GREAAAT! AWESOME TIPS N INFO!
Thanks for this eccellent info on the dsg. You briefly touched on dual mass flywheel problems which sounds like what I am experiencing in my audi a3 1.8 tsfi. Another vid around diagnosis of this problem would be helpful to me
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. The dual-mass flywheel issue is a tough one to diagnose, often times you can go by mileage. On a TDI car they tend to live a harder life so will need service at a lower mileage - something around 120k. On a gas car it's usually closer to 200k, but it can depend. If you're not up on service doing a fluid and filter first could help with any shifting issues
Mine has a chatter sound when cold in park or on initial acceleration. Not terrible yet but I’m about to replace it. I call it an unfortunate wear item so now I’m prepared and it won’t be a problem. Could be much worse, it’s my favorite performing auto and it’s relatively cheap and reliable too.
Bought a used Mk7 R from dealership, they didn’t tell me the previous owner got a stage one tune along with tuning a lot annoying factory stuff off. That car, is the car that got me into cars.
Great video. Love the DSG but still prefer a manual(I don't want to see the manual go away). I own a totally stock 2010 GTI and a stock 2008 Jetta Wolfsburg(FSI) with DSG.
You are missing out, do a simple tune, it will wake the car up and make the driving experience way better
Great information! Whats the best method to ensure proper level of the DSG?
Fantastic video thankyou! 😊
thanks for your effort!
thanks for this video !!!
Great explanation, lots of really good information here. I like the comparison you made between the DQ250 and the DQ381. I’ve driven several 250s but when I bought my GTI with the 381, I was pretty disappointed by the shifting. I was expecting it to shift like the older ones, but with the added benefit of that 7th gear. Like you said, it was “slippy” and just didn’t have the crisp, fast shifts of the 250. It also seemed like the clutch engagement when taking off from a stop wasn’t as sharp. However, it did seem like the faster/harder I drove the car, the shifting would improve, especially in sport mode. I was just wondering if it was actually designed to work that way, or if it’s just a figment of my imagination. Can you shed any light on that? I no longer own that car, I now have a Mk6 GLI with a 6-speed manual. As much as I love driving manuals, I still miss the way a DSG drives. My wife’s Macan does have the PDK, so I suppose I can get behind the wheel of that whenever I need my “DSG fix” 😆
Did you ever tune your DQ381, I know he said tuning helps but still doesn't feel like a DQ250 but I'm wondering if you did it and what the change was like for you.
@@rambow70 I did not tune it
Great video, thanks!!!
Thanks for watching!
Great video! Would love to see a similar video on the getrag dct in the 458/SLS/Ford GT/Amg GT!
Good idea Ahmad!
News flash - dsgs with wet clutches also use hydraulic pressure to apply the clutches and shift gears. Modern ATs also shift extremely fast and realize complete lockup of the engine and transmission together. Also not mentioned that VW dsgs integrate the front diff with trans which shares the same fluid with gears and 2 clutches. Audi actually has clutches and hydraulic controls in a separate chamber while the front and center diffs plus gears are in their own separate compartment with different fluid.
Correct - the DL501 utilizes a divorced lubrication system, unlike the other VW/Audi transverse transaxles that share fluid for clutches, gear stacks, and differential. You're also on point with the late model ZF 8-speed being much better than older traditional automatics, so while what we're discussing here is more or less true, there is less of a performance gap than there was in years past.
Excellent video - thank you. Do you have an explanation for a DSG high temperature warning light appearing on 7 Speed 4 Motion 2018 model Tiguan. This can happen in off-road mode when you attempt to climb a steep hill with a slippery and uneven surface? Is this related to clutch slippage while the traction control works out which wheel to send the power or something else?
Very high quality video.
I have been using the puny DQ200 dry clutch. I think its one advantage over the wet ones would be, it is comparably easy to fix.
Even the wrench monkeys where I live have learned to repair one. And the spare parts are also rather abundant.
Great Video; thanks. Long time FCP customer and fan. I have a higher hwy mileage B8 S4 with regular fluid changes running a new replacement Mechatronic flawlessly for last three years and have stage 2 ECU and TCU tunes. I have a shifting issue becoming more and more noticeable whereby my odd-to-even gear (1/3/5 to 2/4/6) upshifts are slightly rougher and delayed with a slight RPM upsurge vs even-to-odd, or all downshifts. Most noticeable is 3-4, and all more prevalent when 3,500+ RPMS. Any thoughts you could share on where I should be focusing my attention would greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Very well done
Great video thank you
Great video.
Superb video getting into the nitty gritty of DSG boxes' pro's and cons, just this one video could save a lot of VAG owners a lot of money, don't be duped by the wallet robbers and chancers . I've got a B8 S4 reverse gear vibe issue 'Oh it's looking like the gearbox it'll be around £1950'.. on a maybe? I don't think so, I'll update very soon, investigations are ongoing. Keep it up Nathan and FCP! What I like about Nathan's explanations is he talks normal speed, doesn't drawl all over or slow down, if you're quick thinking he's perfect.. if not then you may need to pause a few times but stay with it, I'd love to meet him but we're a few thousand miles apart. OH the DSG fart, its almost embarrassing, I'm 64 and don't need a fartbox!
Haha, yes all things do have their drawbacks. I don't mind the sound, more the "term" :D. Really appreciate the kind words! We do get out and about around the country, if you check our schedule at events.fcpeuro.com you may find something a bit closer than Connecticut. -Nathan
@@fcpeuro Hi Nathan as per your video I do like the sound when I'm caning it around a country road on my own.. in town it's a bit umm.. Anyway, an update on my vibration issue, had the engine mounts replaced and problem solved, they had both lost the fluid, both housings were cracked and one of them had lost the lower casting, a real mess and I saved at least £1800. Videos like yours are priceless so please keep up the great work for us 'real drivers' .
Great Video!
That was very informative,question,what type of dsg do i have with my 2018 skoda fabia?still not sure
PS: I was already a very happy FCP Euro customer this year. Now I am also a subscriber and a video junkie… 😊 🙌
Shout out to the algorithms for reading my mind. Great info FCP, I just got your S-tronic service kit...I'm not a fan of the DSG farts, hopefully a tune can minimize it.
Great video and much appreciated. You have mentioned the "as long as you maintain" principles....what about the poorly maintained units? What can be expected?
Great video, informative. I bought my first DCT car 7/20/23 due to the performance. What can you say about stepping on the brake while in drive during stop and go traffic? Been hearing bad things will happen. Thank you.
Great delivery. Even I can understand that. Have owned an S4 for a couple of years with DSG (an injury brought me to have an 'auto') and until now, not fully understood it. Absolutely love the three in one gearbox choices.
As an engineer, would you agree that fuel economy, whilst not the prime reason for the purchase, would be better than a manual also?
Would love to hear any comments as I am amazed at the fuel figures, unless I am going full chat (only on the track officer)
Many Thanks again from the UK
Be lucky.
Thank you for the great explanation. How can I find which clutch is used on Skoda Octavia 2021 with 2.0L diesel 1.5TDI engine?
Great video, quick question, where do the DSG/Steptronic units fitted to the 1.4 hybrids fit in to this? I understand they're a more compact 6spd with the wet clutches?
Hi, thanks for the helpful and comprehensive video! I own a VW Passat with DQ381 7. I would like to ask if it is normal to hear even a slight shift from 2nd to 3rd and from 3rd to 2nd? I don't always hear it and can barely feel the knocking sound. Thank you!
I don't know if you have but you should do a video on how to use Manuel mode in a dsg and the differences between them, maybe what to look out for and don't do etc.
Hey guys, great video and answered a lot of questions I've had about DSG - in the video at 13:50 you start to describe flywheel issues, the bang into gear, and the vibrations - you also mention they're indications of something else, and "you'll get into that later" - I may have missed it but I don't think you came back to it. What are the other issues? Also, the vibrations, would they likely be felt while idalling, sitting at the lights, or sitting in park? and how bad would you expect?
Mechatronics issues will cause hard changes, delay in engagement, 'dropped' gears etc as well so I'm guessing that's what he was alluding to.
@@onearmedbandit_nz I think you're right as well. Thats what I think im dealing with.
Nice tech review... Question for me is would the DL 501 be possible to replace the tiptronic in my 2005 2.7T allroad. Reason being the performance upgrades this motor will be undergoing this year. RS6 turbos/intercoolers, 2.8 heads with 2.7 exhaust valves, rods & crank upgrades, 631 injectors, higher capacity maf, RS4 sized Y pipe, higher volume fuel pump.... etc ... etc.. Aiming for somewhere in the 600+hp range..
thanks a lot for this great video
Glad you liked it!
I think the main thing you didn't point on is that the transmission itself isn't repairable in a sense. There are a few shops who have the ability or spec to replace internal components. Also the dq250 has 2 filters one internal non serviceable and one cartridge. The dq250 changed with the mk7 no longer is considered a 02E, mk7 use a 0D9 dq250, biggest difference I've notice when fully disassemble is that the temp sensor in the 02e is next to the mech unit. 0D9 is internally in the mech unit.
now im convinced to buy the vw golf mk7 tdi 6-speed. thanks.