As a Lando fan you can't help but acknowledge how good Max really is. Watching his onboard throughout the race the understeer he was tackling was unreal in comparison to the McLaren. To walk away from that P2 is beyond impressive. I can officially say he is 1000% making the difference for redbull and now i truly understand why people say he's one of the greatest to ever race.
I think RB has gotten used to Max winning even with a crap car......so they don't worry when things aren't right. BUT.......could this be the same issue Lewis faced (strange car problems - it was like the Mercedes factory team couldn't do anything right). Maybe it just comes down to $$$.....Lewis $35M......Max $55M......slow way to show them the door?
I absolutely loved that last lap FLAP from Lando. It really shows a bit of a change in attitude - grabbing these kind of opportunities is exactly what he needs to really pose a challenge to that championship.
I just love the fact that Lando took back the Lead from the 3 times Max who finished the second best.... HE was Fuming and Dying in his Heart I gather..... Winning Mode is so good for anyone. Happy for CUTE Baby Lando😘
Indeed, there is always more risk of a spin. It must be very tempting to just bring the win home and avoid a potential howler, but he was greedy and confident enough.
They go for flap extra point yet last race they gift Oscar the win, they need to decide if they want to challenge for drivers champion ship or not, hopefully they made their mind up, Lando needs every single point he can get to have a chance
Hard not to, if McLaren continues this form they will have had the fastest car for 2/3 of the season and most likely won’t win the WDC. You can say it’s Max’s consisteny, but McLaren and Lando has played their role and if it comes down to those points lost in Hungary I will have no sympathy (maybe a bit for Lando) . Mickey mouse operation.
Another great drive by Charles. No mistakes I saw under pressure for 30 laps. Charles consistently turns into corners earlier than almost all. Peter indicated that there was indeed something going on with inertial asymmetric braking. How long? And Rob Wilson improves Checo’s performance!! All very interesting.
He doesn’t know. He’s just making shit up for clicks. Surely you’ve realized he has no real connections to the modern sport. No contacts. No special knowledge. Just living off the old days. A broken old man whispering at the ghosts in his future.
Hi Peter - saw your contribution to the Enzo Ferrari video at the Formula 1 exhibition in London today. I was going to blurt out 'Oh! I know him'! Then remembered I don't know you at all! lol (Yes, folks - I know he probably won't read this, but I feel better for writing it anyway!😀)
Never ever thought a car with a non works engine would be this dominant. Max's 4th driver's WDC is under serious threat. Newey's departure has emasculated Red Bull.
I believe the situation will just get rougher & rougher for Red Bull. Max is very lucky he has such a big lead right now. Otherwise he would be in trouble. And i seriously doubt Red Bull will win the Constructors.
Strategy wise: What were McLaren doing with Oscar, keeping him out before the first stop, while losing seconds a lap in race time? He should not have been undercut by Charles, and therefore have been on the podium at least. And why did Mercedes give points away by pitting George to used softs?
Oscar said it in Live Post Race Show, that they thought Ferrari went too early for pit stop, and by the next lap Russell pitted first, so it left Piastri with clear air. By this point they have to go long to have the tire delta to pass both Russell and Leclerc on track. He managed to pass Russell since Merc were struggling with hard tire, but Leclerc just had enough pace to fended off Piastri
It was impossible to cover the undercut by charles, even if he had pitted the next lap he would have been undercut. It was entirely his fault that he lost his position to george at the start and then was unable to pass the much much slower ferrari. Awful race from him.
Lando finally being dominant. A race that could for sure boost his confidence to the rest of the season. Max once again outperforming rivals in better cars, his consistency is brilliant. The same could be said about charles, amazing drive. And these are the best drivers in F1 at the moment. Oscar and George are not far off, and lewis and Fernando are still brilliant, but both past their prime.
With my tongue firmly planted in my cheek, Llando should do a season of sprinting and hill climbing. Having competed in both disciplines and circuit racing for 50 years, you can always tell an ex-speed eventer on a race track as his starts are so good. I used to make up two rows on a regular basis, at the start of a race.😂
An intimidating performance from McLaren. Congratulations to them. Will be even harder for Max to remain a one-man-army. And there is something charming about Norris, Verstappen, and Leclerc all in the cooldown room.
With electronic regen, e-motor and a electronic differential the rear of the car has abs, traction control, brake and acceleration steering. Just need to concentrate manually on the front.
Land in on it. He didn't over celebrate, because his focus in bigger things. Except for loosing the start, it was calm a execution. The last lap was to bring fear to the other teams.
Well, that was a short summary... Anyway, Lando deserved the win. Even though the TV director didn't show him in the last third of the race, when he was in focus, that car looked like it was on rails, and it looked very easy to drive. And the last / quickest lap was just an icing on the cake. McLaren, the first team I rooted for in 90s, is winning races again. I just wish they had Mika Hakkinen Livery. IMO, those cars were the most beautiful in the "modern era." They still had that simplicity, which I can't describe. Aero was not as complicated, and tobacco sponsors were still allowed.
Yes, it was a great day for Lando....but I felt for Max......in the cool down room. He looked at Lando when he came in and smiled......but no reciprocation on Lando's part. This is a tough business to have friends in.
Lol this is F1, mate. It's always been an engineering sport - the difference in skill between the top 6 drivers isn't enough to overcome the differential of one being in a great car and the other being in an OK car. Dont believe me? Even the great Ayrton Senna offered to drive for Williams for FREE and ditch his Mclaren in '93 😂
Yes it definitely does.. The RedBull has been illegal for 3 years so all of Max's titles should have been striped away. In a legal car Max loses every time.
@@scroopynooperz9051 Exactly. Drivers like Max, Lewis, Fernando, and Charles are so incredibly close to each other that, BETWEEN THEM, it's the car and not the driver.
7:37 - You don't need to analyse the data to know this, just watch the onboard footage of Norris and listen. He copped a gob full of wheel spin just after pulling away. They showed this on the live feed with the replay of the start a lap or two in.
That winning margin cements Landos abilities. The redbull car is falling behind I assume the focus development on the next year's car. Interesting times with 4 race able winning team's.
I understand Lewis enquired with his team if he should try for a faster lap, but was told his initial time was safe. Still worrying that Lando can’t keep a start. On some tracks, it would be extremely difficult to retake the lead, like Monaco for example.
Hi Peter, any chance of any insight into the wind tunnels the teams use. I beleive McClaren have the latest tunnel and everything they bolt on works well,when every other team do not have the same gains. Is this because of the tunnels and if so how different are they in comparison and should the tunnels change reflecting the changes to the rules i.e ground force. Aston with their new tunnel and the time in the tunnel coming to them should see them rocket to the front, no?
Lando destroyed the field in Zandvoort, as seen by his last lap he had a bunch of pace in hand if he needed it as well. I do expect Red Bull and Verstappen to bounce back in Monza though with their straight line speed efficency.
anyone else think with the supposed Merc style shoulders and the down playing of Newey earlier in the year before he left, Red Bull was pushing for just stacking more down force hence the peakier car and now being thoroughly overtaken by the McLarens due to the lack of Newey tempering the just add more downforce mentality of the modern generation of aero heads
Lando and McLaren did great. Ferrari had a great strategy, well done to them. Max did his best in the RB20. Also, the Mercedes were very poor. Either way, I'm looking forward to Monza. It is a much different circuit and it should be interesting. I suspect that the McLaren will win, but the margin will be closer.
He also got out qualified by half a second and nowhere near Norris's pace in the race. He had a bad weekend. It happens. Stop trying to make everything not his fault.
@edbr2379 spot on. Lando outclassed Oscar this weekend and I still believe Oscar's a champion in waiting. Thought McLaren might have tried an undercut on LEC but that would have left him with rotten tyres by the end. Unfortunately the reality is Oscar wasn't on it this weekend. He'll be back though I'm sure.
Well with this form and both drivers performing well McLaren is all set to grab constructors trophy but for driver's trophy both McL drivers must beat Max consistently which is highly unlikely however I would love to see that happen this year.
RB is in its first year with this aero package should move the most next season of all the teams other than AM and Ferrari and some of the back markers
I think Peter has talked himself into a corner and has too much pride to backdown (see: his commentary after Hungary). Good to hear that he didn't expect the Stewards to investigate Oscar this time, at least.
What is it with Peter Windsor. Does not think much of Oscar with no comment on poor McLaren strategy. The Ferrari was a bolter and no one knew it, even the team 😂😂
McLaren strategy has always been poor especially giving points away in Hungary and insisting that the slower driver was given the race win when the only driver capable of beating verstappen in the championship lost points.
RB needs to get on top of their downforce issues. Max not being able to turn on the tires seems like a suspension issue. The handling characteristics of understeer seems like the downforce they have added has affected the handing drastically in a negative way. They need to add better front/rear downforce and increase the mechanical grip. Lastly, when will teams understand that the dirty air is a lot due to the downforce created so an early good undercut will always work !
Well done Lando glad you picked yourself up .Dought Oscar will qualify himself behind your car again though he will park behind Max instead like Russell did😅
So now where are all the fanatics who believed that Max can win in any car? NO ONE can win if the car isn't fast enough to win, unless it rains and the race is chaotic. However listening to Peter using his superlatives will make any noob believe that Max is not human. Btw Peter talked about Lewis in the same fashion several years ago when he dominated.
I am a fan of Max and clearly believe he is one of the best drivers ever, but I am with you on this one, this sport is not only about the driver, it's also about engineering and ingenuity, the machine is a big big weight on the scale of who wins and who stays behind. The better the car AND the driver combined, the better result you get, the car is a wild beast who needs a very capable tamer and viceversa.
Max can win in any car which is competitive. Switching cars with those that finish close will make him win. The RB20 didn't finish close with over 20 seconds. So yes, here I am saying that. Hi 👋
Something is obviously wrong with the Redbull car, with Verstappen finishing an astonishing 23 seconds behind Norris.😮 Also, Perez lagging behind as usual. 🙄
At the end of the season Lando is going to wish he had not been forced to give up an extra 7 points in Hungary. Nine races to go, if Lando wins all 9 and Max finishes second, Lando will get 9*7 or 63 more points. The difference in points today? 70 points.
Today Norris took the fastest lap on his old hard tires. I've seen some comment that claimed 0.6sec faster than Hamilton on the newer softs. That can be 9 extra points. When we look at the latest performance difference between the cars, It seems more likely that Norris can win every race then Verstappen getting second. That Mclaren is also way more reliable. A mistake from either one driver or team can currently make the difference. I want Verstappen to win and think he will. But it isn't done yet😉
You're forgetting we'll have another three sprint races this year, where Lando can decrease the point gap between him and Max. Additionally, if Oscar manages to finish P2 every race as well, with Lando finishing in P1 and Max finishing in P3, Lando could close the gap by 10 points per race normal weekend (or 11 if Lando gets the fastest lap), and with 12 points in total in a race weekend where we have a sprint weekend (or 13 points if he gets fastest lap on Sunday). If McLaren gets a 1-2 every (sprint) race from now on with Lando winning, hypothetically speaking, Lando could gain without the fastest laps: 6 normal race weekends * 10 points = 60 points 3 race weekends with sprint races * 12 points = 36 points Total = 60 points + 36 points = 96 points The gap between Lando and Max is 70 points currently, so if Lando wins every (sprint) race from now on with Oscar finishing in P2 in every (sprint) race and with Max finishing in P3 every time, Lando wouldn't have to get a single fastest lap for the rest of the season, AND could get another DNF in a race where Max wins, and STILL clinch the WDC with 1 point to spare🫣
The McLaren is fast, but it helps a ton that the RBR cheater device got removed. Amazing how vulnerable they are when they have to compete on a level playing field.
Historically F1 is all about gaining advantage. Didn't you know? Just a DTS noob I guess. If they were using that it wasn't cheating, no regulations were circumvented. They stopped when Fia changed the goal posts, as they are continually doing. I'd stick to tiddlywinks if I were you.
Crazy to think that McLaren would've won both championships if the FIA clamped down on Red Bulls break trick at the start of the season. Explains their superior tyre wear last year and the opening 5 races to the point where it looked like a completely different formula. I still can't believe it took other teams so long to figure it out though
Maybe just a coincidence...but wasn't Mclaren's winning ways in the late 90's (while Adrain Newey was there) undone when it was discovered they also employed asymmetrical braking such as is suspected with the RB20? And if the latter is true, might that explain Redbulls dominance from 22 thru the 1st half of 24?
asymmetrical braking - looks like it gave more even tyre wear on the RB, and without it, they're cooking tyres faster in the race. coz the RB superior tyre wear has gone. Not sure lando will be able to close the gap to Max for the champ but the McL looks like the faster car now by the tinniest amount.
As a Lando fan you can't help but acknowledge how good Max really is. Watching his onboard throughout the race the understeer he was tackling was unreal in comparison to the McLaren. To walk away from that P2 is beyond impressive. I can officially say he is 1000% making the difference for redbull and now i truly understand why people say he's one of the greatest to ever race.
hear hear 👏
Agreed. Max has a sublime talent. Like other great drivers before him.
I think RB has gotten used to Max winning even with a crap car......so they don't worry when things aren't right. BUT.......could this be the same issue Lewis faced (strange car problems - it was like the Mercedes factory team couldn't do anything right). Maybe it just comes down to $$$.....Lewis $35M......Max $55M......slow way to show them the door?
I absolutely loved that last lap FLAP from Lando. It really shows a bit of a change in attitude - grabbing these kind of opportunities is exactly what he needs to really pose a challenge to that championship.
I just love the fact that Lando took back the Lead from the 3 times Max who finished the second best....
HE was Fuming and Dying in his Heart I gather.....
Winning Mode is so good for anyone.
Happy for CUTE Baby Lando😘
Indeed, there is always more risk of a spin. It must be very tempting to just bring the win home and avoid a potential howler, but he was greedy and confident enough.
They go for flap extra point yet last race they gift Oscar the win, they need to decide if they want to challenge for drivers champion ship or not, hopefully they made their mind up, Lando needs every single point he can get to have a chance
Painfull if Norris loses the title because he had to let Piastri win when he was leading the race.
@@hansbig7550 Otoh, they can now ask Piastri to return the favour, over and over again.
Gasly and Lewis were so underrated today. They made brilliant races. That overtake on turn 11 by Lewis was phenomenal.
Who was the overtake on ?
I was thinking the same.
For me, Lewis was the driver of the day.
I believe Max described his tires as "numb", not "dumb"
That’s what the text on the tv said, but PW specifically spelled out dumb so maybe he heard something different with his press feeds?
@@fragdude Possibly, but personally I felt that "numb" makes more sense than "dumb".
It’s not as easy to nurse the tires without asymmetrical braking.
Yes numb as “can’t feel” sounds more correct. Take nothing from the GOAT PW
yes
"We won't go down that path. "
Proceeds down that path 😆
the good ol' British 'should haves'
Did Oscar's Mum turn Peter down once or something?
Peter in 2026: "Lando's 7th win, should be 8th of course"
Like a dog on a bone is our Peter.
Hard not to, if McLaren continues this form they will have had the fastest car for 2/3 of the season and most likely won’t win the WDC. You can say it’s Max’s consisteny, but McLaren and Lando has played their role and if it comes down to those points lost in Hungary I will have no sympathy (maybe a bit for Lando) . Mickey mouse operation.
Charles should have been Driver of the Day, IMO.
British bias at its finest
Exactly.
And then Lewis getting more votes than Carlos, I've no idea which race the voters were watching.
No clue how Charles held Piastri back. Charles just demoralized him into quitting.
How many positions were picked up by each driver?
Max said 'numb', not dumb :-)
Right, numb as in could not feel the grip of the tyres.
Yes and also: If tires are acting stupidly, he would call them "idiots".
Another great drive by Charles. No mistakes I saw under pressure for 30 laps. Charles consistently turns into corners earlier than almost all. Peter indicated that there was indeed something going on with inertial asymmetric braking. How long? And Rob Wilson improves Checo’s performance!! All very interesting.
He doesn’t know. He’s just making shit up for clicks. Surely you’ve realized he has no real connections to the modern sport. No contacts. No special knowledge. Just living off the old days. A broken old man whispering at the ghosts in his future.
Miraculous and simply extraordinary droving by Charles Leclerc
Hi Peter - saw your contribution to the Enzo Ferrari video at the Formula 1 exhibition in London today. I was going to blurt out 'Oh! I know him'! Then remembered I don't know you at all! lol (Yes, folks - I know he probably won't read this, but I feel better for writing it anyway!😀)
Congratulations to Lando for his sensational win today!
Im really not sure about anyone blaming Norris for the start. His team mate done the exact same thing. Its clearly more of a McLaren issue
For this race, possibly, but Lando has a habit of bad starts from the front row.
Never ever thought a car with a non works engine would be this dominant. Max's 4th driver's WDC is under serious threat. Newey's departure has emasculated Red Bull.
He said NUMB not dumb
I believe the situation will just get rougher & rougher for Red Bull. Max is very lucky he has such a big lead right now. Otherwise he would be in trouble. And i seriously doubt Red Bull will win the Constructors.
Strategy wise: What were McLaren doing with Oscar, keeping him out before the first stop, while losing seconds a lap in race time? He should not have been undercut by Charles, and therefore have been on the podium at least.
And why did Mercedes give points away by pitting George to used softs?
All good points.
These are the questions that should be asked: as long as the person cares to ask!
Yeah didn’t make sense
Oscar said it in Live Post Race Show, that they thought Ferrari went too early for pit stop, and by the next lap Russell pitted first, so it left Piastri with clear air. By this point they have to go long to have the tire delta to pass both Russell and Leclerc on track. He managed to pass Russell since Merc were struggling with hard tire, but Leclerc just had enough pace to fended off Piastri
It was impossible to cover the undercut by charles, even if he had pitted the next lap he would have been undercut. It was entirely his fault that he lost his position to george at the start and then was unable to pass the much much slower ferrari. Awful race from him.
Lando finally being dominant. A race that could for sure boost his confidence to the rest of the season.
Max once again outperforming rivals in better cars, his consistency is brilliant.
The same could be said about charles, amazing drive.
And these are the best drivers in F1 at the moment. Oscar and George are not far off, and lewis and Fernando are still brilliant, but both past their prime.
The best driver without mentioning Carlos Sainz is so unfair .....
Dominant would be leading every lap...which Lando as usual managed to lose at the start
I don’t think Max really outperformed anyone other than Piastri, Perez, and Russell….
With my tongue firmly planted in my cheek, Llando should do a season of sprinting and hill climbing. Having competed in both disciplines and circuit racing for 50 years, you can always tell an ex-speed eventer on a race track as his starts are so good. I used to make up two rows on a regular basis, at the start of a race.😂
Lucky for him the car was so dominant. If they where equal with redbull pace wise it would have been difficult loosing the start like that
I really don't think Lewis is getting his due for how good a drive he had today. Grid penalty was absolute nonsense.
An intimidating performance from McLaren. Congratulations to them. Will be even harder for Max to remain a one-man-army.
And there is something charming about Norris, Verstappen, and Leclerc all in the cooldown room.
Impressive come back from a legendary F1 team and great drive from Lando !!
With electronic regen, e-motor and a electronic differential the rear of the car has abs, traction control, brake and acceleration steering. Just need to concentrate manually on the front.
Land in on it. He didn't over celebrate, because his focus in bigger things. Except for loosing the start, it was calm a execution. The last lap was to bring fear to the other teams.
Proper amazing drive by Norris. Never liked this guy, but today drive cool like a cucumber and won admiration of many more.
Imagine being so good at what you do that coming in 2nd place is seen as some type of failure.
The smoke at the end of the grand prix was super dangerous
ooh boy..give us a break girl
@@yossayahutsapak7239what is on unreasonable about his comment. You seem like the diva😂
Outstanding performance from Lando. Big Thumb up to him
What a deive from Charles!! Absolutely perfect. As well as the whole Ferrari team. Caelos did great too 👌
Thank you Peter for a spot on analysis, as always.
Off topic we should talk about if Logan Sargent should lose his drive before the end of the season. His latest crash is costing Williams
Logan -> test driver Mick?
Nothing to really talk about. Sargent will finish out the season and not come back for 2025.
I quote Martin Brundle today " Williams simply can not afford to keep Sargent "
Love the closing music Peter.
Well, that was a short summary... Anyway, Lando deserved the win. Even though the TV director didn't show him in the last third of the race, when he was in focus, that car looked like it was on rails, and it looked very easy to drive. And the last / quickest lap was just an icing on the cake. McLaren, the first team I rooted for in 90s, is winning races again. I just wish they had Mika Hakkinen Livery. IMO, those cars were the most beautiful in the "modern era." They still had that simplicity, which I can't describe. Aero was not as complicated, and tobacco sponsors were still allowed.
I love Peter's analysis of F1. With his background and experience, he has great street-cred.
Yes, it was a great day for Lando....but I felt for Max......in the cool down room. He looked at Lando when he came in and smiled......but no reciprocation on Lando's part. This is a tough business to have friends in.
Lando is a baby
@@sundancer7381 max doesn't see lando as a threat but lando does 😂
Lando knows he should be leading the WDC if not for errors on his part plus he realized that Max was driving a illegal car since 2021.
I think we overthink the relationship of these men. It's not that deep.
@@LDTOK-zs8ozabsolutely! Now that both cars are legal Max is left in the dust!
As Max fan I can now concede that the car makes a difference.
You just realized that??????????????????????????????
Lol this is F1, mate. It's always been an engineering sport - the difference in skill between the top 6 drivers isn't enough to overcome the differential of one being in a great car and the other being in an OK car.
Dont believe me? Even the great Ayrton Senna offered to drive for Williams for FREE and ditch his Mclaren in '93 😂
What a revelation?!
Yes it definitely does.. The RedBull has been illegal for 3 years so all of Max's titles should have been striped away. In a legal car Max loses every time.
@@scroopynooperz9051 Exactly. Drivers like Max, Lewis, Fernando, and Charles are so incredibly close to each other that, BETWEEN THEM, it's the car and not the driver.
Why focus on when Lando's team didn't gift him a win in Hungary than all the other missed opportunities for wins he has had this season?
Tire degradation is worst in dirty air because you get less downforce and your tires heat up due to slippage, not because you pick up debris ;)
7:37 - You don't need to analyse the data to know this, just watch the onboard footage of Norris and listen. He copped a gob full of wheel spin just after pulling away. They showed this on the live feed with the replay of the start a lap or two in.
That winning margin cements Landos abilities. The redbull car is falling behind I assume the focus development on the next year's car. Interesting times with 4 race able winning team's.
It doesn't cement his ability, it shows that the McLaren is at the level the red bull was last year vs the competition
People talk of Lewis making a mistake moving to Ferrari, but they're looking solid, and able to hold up faster cars more consistently than Merc.
Very good as always.
Zak Brown - thanks for putting together a team so McLaren is a top performer again.
Important for Lando to convincingly reinstate the pecking order after the Hungary debacle.
I understand Lewis enquired with his team if he should try for a faster lap, but was told his initial time was safe. Still worrying that Lando can’t keep a start. On some tracks, it would be extremely difficult to retake the lead, like Monaco for example.
Hi Peter, any chance of any insight into the wind tunnels the teams use. I beleive McClaren have the latest tunnel and everything they bolt on works well,when every other team do not have the same gains. Is this because of the tunnels and if so how different are they in comparison and should the tunnels change reflecting the changes to the rules i.e ground force. Aston with their new tunnel and the time in the tunnel coming to them should see them rocket to the front, no?
George's fastest lap was on new HARD tires, Lewis' was on roughly 20l hard tires.
Wait that’s the whole analysis? Lando made up 1 of the points he lost in Hungary. End of analysis. You need to let that go mate.
@Peter: did you also notice at the start--> everybody on the left side lost position?
Lando destroyed the field in Zandvoort, as seen by his last lap he had a bunch of pace in hand if he needed it as well. I do expect Red Bull and Verstappen to bounce back in Monza though with their straight line speed efficency.
No asymmetrical braking no chance.🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😂
Nope
Fastest Lap at the end. Oh my God I missed it. I was at the kitchen getting another pint for the anthem. What a waste on my part😂❤❤❤
This season has definitely got more interesting.
Lando needs Oscar’s help to win championship. He needs him to be ahead of Max. This is that help Lando has been told through the radio on Hungaroring.
He wont be
Still sour about Piastri’s deserved win, that the team and Lando decided to mess up with? 😅
anyone else think with the supposed Merc style shoulders and the down playing of Newey earlier in the year before he left, Red Bull was pushing for just stacking more down force hence the peakier car and now being thoroughly overtaken by the McLarens due to the lack of Newey tempering the just add more downforce mentality of the modern generation of aero heads
Why is Peter’s outro always so insane? Lol
It has no business going that hard every time… I love it lol
Thanks a lot 👍
Lando and McLaren did great. Ferrari had a great strategy, well done to them. Max did his best in the RB20. Also, the Mercedes were very poor. Either way, I'm looking forward to Monza. It is a much different circuit and it should be interesting. I suspect that the McLaren will win, but the margin will be closer.
There was no wheel spin on the McLaren. Engineering equation was wrong..had to be.
This might have been the best drive of Charles’ career.
where did the Newey praise go? this is still his car isnt it?
The Newey Praise went to McLaren with His long time Understudy, now it's rearing its ugly head. 😀
at the moment Newey is not working actively in the front anymore at RB
Upgrades doesn't need the same capasity? As the other teams have passed through their more refined upgrades.
no, it was Peter wache
Oscar was disappointing. I had hoped he could bring the fight to Max
Could of if McLaren didn't stuff it for him once again they could of double stacked in the pit's he may have got second if they did
Wasn’t helped out by Lando fluffing the start in front of him. Pit strategy didn’t do him any favours either
@@chrissolum8323 👍spot on mate
He also got out qualified by half a second and nowhere near Norris's pace in the race. He had a bad weekend. It happens. Stop trying to make everything not his fault.
@edbr2379 spot on. Lando outclassed Oscar this weekend and I still believe Oscar's a champion in waiting. Thought McLaren might have tried an undercut on LEC but that would have left him with rotten tyres by the end. Unfortunately the reality is Oscar wasn't on it this weekend. He'll be back though I'm sure.
I think Peter underestimates the circuit. It is not so easy for the drivers.
It's an old school and very demanding circuit. Why is he saying this
@@else1133No idea, one of the drivers mentioned it as there are very few points to relax.
Congrats to Lando but JEEEEEEEZZZZZ that was such a boring race.
Yep reminded me of last year. At least it was a different face at the front.
Where did Lando get so much pace suddenly, while few races back it was totally reverse compared to Max.
Mclaren brought upgrades this Grand Prix. Lando got the most out of that car. And Oscar underperformed
Well with this form and both drivers performing well McLaren is all set to grab constructors trophy but for driver's trophy both McL drivers must beat Max consistently which is highly unlikely however I would love to see that happen this year.
What happened to the old outro song? It was so good!
RB is in its first year with this aero package should move the most next season of all the teams other than AM and Ferrari and some of the back markers
What did Oscar do to Peter?!😂
LOL, he likes Oscar rates him highly. Peter also knows he isn’t ready for prime time
@YUNGDRAYK fair assessment I agree.
Did you not watch the race today? He couldn't pass a ferrari with much fresher tyres...If that doesn't scream poor race for him idk what is.
@@YUNGDRAYKPW will not give Oscar any credit until maybe 2025, after he's fully supported Lando 100%, on his "#1 driver" philosophy.
I think Peter has talked himself into a corner and has too much pride to backdown (see: his commentary after Hungary). Good to hear that he didn't expect the Stewards to investigate Oscar this time, at least.
What is it with Peter Windsor. Does not think much of Oscar with no comment on poor McLaren strategy. The Ferrari was a bolter and no one knew it, even the team 😂😂
McLaren strategy has always been poor especially giving points away in Hungary and insisting that the slower driver was given the race win when the only driver capable of beating verstappen in the championship lost points.
Oscar isn’t a Brit. That’s it. For Peter, there is nothing else.
RB needs to get on top of their downforce issues. Max not being able to turn on the tires seems like a suspension issue. The handling characteristics of understeer seems like the downforce they have added has affected the handing drastically in a negative way. They need to add better front/rear downforce and increase the mechanical grip. Lastly, when will teams understand that the dirty air is a lot due to the downforce created so an early good undercut will always work !
They should hire you then!
@@scottjohannen2688lol I wish I studied mechanical engineering. I’m studying civil engineering instead plus working 2 jobs
Do you mean RBR Red Bull, not 'Visa ChashApp' RB?
@@bensynewsshoedown4999ya rb meant red bull
McLaren is suddenly too good.
Lando was with upgrades and im pretty sure Oscar was with old setup
Well done Lando glad you picked yourself up .Dought Oscar will qualify himself behind your car again though he will park behind Max instead like Russell did😅
So now where are all the fanatics who believed that Max can win in any car? NO ONE can win if the car isn't fast enough to win, unless it rains and the race is chaotic. However listening to Peter using his superlatives will make any noob believe that Max is not human. Btw Peter talked about Lewis in the same fashion several years ago when he dominated.
I am a fan of Max and clearly believe he is one of the best drivers ever, but I am with you on this one, this sport is not only about the driver, it's also about engineering and ingenuity, the machine is a big big weight on the scale of who wins and who stays behind.
The better the car AND the driver combined, the better result you get, the car is a wild beast who needs a very capable tamer and viceversa.
Max can win in any car which is competitive. Switching cars with those that finish close will make him win. The RB20 didn't finish close with over 20 seconds. So yes, here I am saying that. Hi 👋
Something is obviously wrong with the Redbull car, with Verstappen finishing an astonishing 23 seconds behind Norris.😮
Also, Perez lagging behind as usual. 🙄
At the end of the season Lando is going to wish he had not been forced to give up an extra 7 points in Hungary.
Nine races to go, if Lando wins all 9 and Max finishes second, Lando will get 9*7 or 63 more points.
The difference in points today? 70 points.
Fastes lap?
I want him to win the WDC but I cannot feel like it might be too many points to cover sadly. We will see if others can catch to the RB's.
Today Norris took the fastest lap on his old hard tires. I've seen some comment that claimed 0.6sec faster than Hamilton on the newer softs. That can be 9 extra points. When we look at the latest performance difference between the cars, It seems more likely that Norris can win every race then Verstappen getting second. That Mclaren is also way more reliable. A mistake from either one driver or team can currently make the difference.
I want Verstappen to win and think he will. But it isn't done yet😉
You're forgetting we'll have another three sprint races this year, where Lando can decrease the point gap between him and Max. Additionally, if Oscar manages to finish P2 every race as well, with Lando finishing in P1 and Max finishing in P3, Lando could close the gap by 10 points per race normal weekend (or 11 if Lando gets the fastest lap), and with 12 points in total in a race weekend where we have a sprint weekend (or 13 points if he gets fastest lap on Sunday).
If McLaren gets a 1-2 every (sprint) race from now on with Lando winning, hypothetically speaking, Lando could gain without the fastest laps:
6 normal race weekends * 10 points = 60 points
3 race weekends with sprint races * 12 points = 36 points
Total = 60 points + 36 points = 96 points
The gap between Lando and Max is 70 points currently, so if Lando wins every (sprint) race from now on with Oscar finishing in P2 in every (sprint) race and with Max finishing in P3 every time, Lando wouldn't have to get a single fastest lap for the rest of the season, AND could get another DNF in a race where Max wins, and STILL clinch the WDC with 1 point to spare🫣
@@Real_ghostboi Thank you! I stand corrected. Let's do ONE lap in Abu Dhabi to decide it all. NOT.
If RB was indeed using that brake trick they need to be punished for it and investigated for the past 2 seasons.
Mate you need to stop putting the race winner in the thumbnail....
Lando has choked more than 7 points this season. His own whining fault if he misses the championship by less than 7.
SUPERMAC SLAYS THE BULL
The McLaren is fast, but it helps a ton that the RBR cheater device got removed. Amazing how vulnerable they are when they have to compete on a level playing field.
Historically F1 is all about gaining advantage. Didn't you know? Just a DTS noob I guess. If they were using that it wasn't cheating, no regulations were circumvented. They stopped when Fia changed the goal posts, as they are continually doing. I'd stick to tiddlywinks if I were you.
@@paulaldis2970
That is categorical cheating. You clearly do not have a clue.
@paulaldis2970 what rulebook doesn't say that counts
Did Max say "Dumb" when talking about the tyres? I thought he said "Numb".
Don’t go down that path!
Got fastest lap on degraded tires against Lewis Hamilton new set ones
So what’s your point? There were a few other drivers on newer tyres that didn’t get fastest lap.
@@Enzoblueblood I guess
Thanks again bud
Congrat lando 😄😄😄👍
Crazy to think that McLaren would've won both championships if the FIA clamped down on Red Bulls break trick at the start of the season. Explains their superior tyre wear last year and the opening 5 races to the point where it looked like a completely different formula. I still can't believe it took other teams so long to figure it out though
This should have been his 4th win by my calculations
So now it appears there is another dominant car. Not two or three teams with comparable performance. Oh well.
Its on
Maybe just a coincidence...but wasn't Mclaren's winning ways in the late 90's (while Adrain Newey was there) undone when it was discovered they also employed asymmetrical braking such as is suspected with the RB20? And if the latter is true, might that explain Redbulls dominance from 22 thru the 1st half of 24?
Where does Peter get that (start) kind of telemetry detail?
Maybe his sponsor track ninja? This guy is embedded in F1.
Because Peter knows Everyone personally, and He likes Everyone except Toto Wolf.
@@stephensegal5187and Oscar Piastri
Please do not take the Jewel of the Crown at Singapore from Lewis or Goergy. Pleeeaasse...........
"Should be his third." Uh then tell him to drive better 🤷♂🤷♂
Yeah Peter ya d#$khead 😆👍
HIi peter at 2:56 you said dumb but max said Numb not dumb😂😂
asymmetrical braking - looks like it gave more even tyre wear on the RB, and without it, they're cooking tyres faster in the race. coz the RB superior tyre wear has gone. Not sure lando will be able to close the gap to Max for the champ but the McL looks like the faster car now by the tinniest amount.
But they have RB 19. That car so fast. Can not base on that
I don’t think Zandvoort is Piastri’s best track. He doesn’t seem to go well in sector 2.
Thank you Mr Windsor 🏁
Why did Lewis drop in the last few laps?
Congratulations McLaren
What the F is Red Bull doing🤦♂️
That car is a shit box
Nice job lando