Chasing Kids, Roid Raging, and MURDER | Jake Davison
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- A depressed, roid raging incel with a history of violence and mental illness was given a license to own a shotgun. This license would effectively be his license to kill.
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Making your entire personality the fact that you can't get laid is one of the worst things you can do if you ever want to get laid lol.
Is there an actual solution?
Is there an actual solution?
Yes, look inside. If you think you're a good person, you most likely aren't. Fix yourself first. @@whiteguy9696
@@whiteguy9696 it's certainly not doing that
@@psychedelicsoul3260 ok so you have an solution?
Incels treat the love they'll never have with the same anger and jealousy that keeps them from having it.
It’s an overrated label… like the goofy pronouns… I haven’t been with a woman in over 4 years.. I can’t say I don’t miss all that entails , but I’m definitely not angry,mad,jealous or any of that.. I’m just busy focusing on me… Not looking… In saying that, do you happen to know any single beautiful women who are looking ? 😂😂😂😂 😁✊🏼
Chicken vs egg, which came first. Most loney single men started life as caring empathetic gentlemen with a positive attitude. It's only after years of isolation, social atomization, and brutal rejections that men lose hope and start slowly becoming the villains of their own story. The child that's rejected by the tribe will burn it down to feel it's warmth.
@@nunyabaznus7851 if your empathy is easily shattered by rejection then it was never real to begin with. good people don't do good things to get rewarded, because doing the good thing is reward enough.
@nunyabaznus7851 everything you said was from the point of view of someone who blames others for their position in life. Self reflection and self blame are what keep people good.
video hit too close to home?
I remember the day this happened. As an autistic person, I cannot put into words how insulting it was for him to claim his autism was the reason for his behaviour. He's my country's answer to Elliot Rodger.
Well said
Absolutely, I'm exactly the same. Having ADHD too it also makes my blood boil every time I read that a person's barrister puts forward mitigation along the lines of "he only headbutted his granny and pushed her down the stairs because he has ADHD" 🤔 bitch please, there's a difference between living with ADHD and giving into every violent impulse that pops into your head. There's definitely an overlap I'm aware but come on, it does so much damage to the community. The majority of us don't have the attention span to carry out a sustained attack!
Dude is in total psycosis by the second clip
Pahaha. Why are you gatekeeping a disablility? 😂😂😂😂
@@Gaybraham.Lincoln Fancy a trip to the theatre? I know a very comfy Booth we can sit in ;)
As a person who has just finished a human rights philosophy class I can confidently say big booty 16-year-olds are not a human right.
Human rights are made up. Nothing truly is a right
lol incels don't seem to know that there are so many young women too shy and self-conscious to even make their existence known. And Incels walk right past the girls who would give them a chance....I WAS one.
what about big booty people of reasonable age relative to how old you are?
@@UwU-235surely you’re not seriously asking that question
Based
Ok... I was caught off guard a bit when the whole... "BIG, HONKIN, LUSCIOUS BREASTS"
Had to laugh out loud at that one. Nice work 😂
Yeah 😂 it added a bit of levity to the whole thing
Oh I was dead.😆😆
lmao same here, i knew i wouldnt get far down the comments before soemone said something about it. 12:02
This.
The attacks against all the victims are heinous, but hearing specifically about how he hunted down that little girl and her father made my stomach turn.
Stuff like this is only gonna get worse every single day more and more men are forced out of society.
Although this guy is... certainly his own ...thing :I
im sure its related to what he had on those 1 point something million files at home
If the girl grew up and the father was alive, would they have been good to him? Or would they have been made fun of on the internet like all of you?
@@Alex-on8yu What are you even trying to say?
@@thesaddestdude3575lmao no
So let me get this straight. Jake randomly attacked two people, left the scene with the intention to return with his firearm… yet that wasn’t enough to revoke his license.
They might have not mentioned that to police.
@@thesaddestdude3575 Even so he randomly attacked two people without any provocation, had been flagged by prevent. Gross negligence either way.
i know right i just passed that part and im scrolling looking for someone else calling that bs out
actually infuriating
@@SpamRambe it’s a common theme in a lot of these cases and others like it. Family/friends begging police to investigate, a routine pattern of violent/aggressive/disturbed behaviour… with police claiming to be shocked that something happened when they were notified of red flags several times beforehand.
This kid is spoiled.. he’s a baby.!
His problem, like in many of these case, was his attitude. Nobody like a whiner. Nobody like desperation, and nobody is entitled to anyone's love. The sooner you understand this, the better.
So why are you entitled to him not snapping?
@@jamespaul6315…. What?
@@Donnieboy7 if hes not entitled to love, why are people thinking that some people wont just snap eventually? Its inevitable
@@jamespaul6315 _No one_ is entitled to love. You want it, you have to not be a shitty person demanding a "big titty girlfriend" (which is more about sex than love; rare is it that anyone is attracted to anyone who objectifies them). Actual love has to be earned.
Snapping because you don't get the sex you want is _no one else's fault but your own._ Most people recognize this is wrong. This guy needed therapy (or some other kind of help) desperately.
@@sandrafaith it doesnt matter if its wrong or not, its still a consequence of societys actions.
hear me out: I'm a virgin female in her 20's, I also never experienced teen love, or anything related to that. I was the quiet kid too, the outcast and the socially awkward nerdy girl. basically you could say I am a femcel because no man ever checked me out. I am not even bothered by the fact that I am a virgin, actually I am lowkey proud of it
I was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and generalized anxiety disorder, yet I never murdered anyone, never went out to punch random men because they are not interested in me or because I can't get laid. His autism or mental struggles are not an excuse.
Legend ❤
I see the incels in the comments are ignoring this one lmfao
exactly as someone with high functioning/aspergers who's only ever really dated one woman i don't hate them and i surely wouldn't go out and act like an idiot and hurt someone i'd rather just play osrs and be left alone lol.
You're not him, he is not you
Hey judging from your comment you're someone I'd be friends with, just be happy with yourself, I'm low-key proud of you too.
If you ever feel like a failure in life, just remember that there are people who obsess about the fact that they can’t get someone to help them get laid. You’ll feel a lot better.
That’s a legit reason for depression
@@whiteguy9696 but not for shooting a 3 year old at point blank range
@@lenas6246you must be an American and most likely voting for Joe Biden… You American women are funny
@@stevetrivago um... what? Are you okay?
@@whiteguy9696 if you make life about sex, yeah its depressing. Much more to life then sex and if that's enough to make you depressed are you really ready for other hardships? a breakup? probably not
Believe it or not, people in general and women in particular can sense when someone is desperate, and they will do everything in their power to get away from such an individual. Desperate people make terrible life partner men or women. They are controlling as they are insecure.
The story of the father protecting his kid and both dying is so heartbreaking. May the victim rest in peace.
You are not wrong. Little red flags floating in a circle over their heads...
What tripe. Charlie Manson and Ted Bundy got love letters in prison. The idea people notice or care about negative personality traits is laughable.
@@nunyabaznus7851right? By their logic there should be no single moms if women’s intuition is so amazing, but that’s not the case. 🤣
@@nunyabaznus7851 There's a difference between losers with charisma targeting vulnerable people and an incel. Manson was a cult leader and Bundy a smooth talker. I hate these people either way, but there actually is a difference.
@nunyabaznus7851 Their point still stands. Manson and Bundy weren't desperate, incel losers.
This dude is crazy wtf I am 20, didnt party or have a girlfriend in my teenage years but jesus to harrass people and murder is terrifying and the lad acting like his life is over at 20?!
I’m 21 I didn’t go to parties during my teen years also. I didn’t get my first girlfriend til I was 19. There’s nun wrong with being a late bloomer.
I'm a woman and I didn't lose my V card until 21. From being SAd. Who knows how long it would have taken otherwise. Not from some religious thing either, it just...never happened for me.
@@Dell2Shiesty44exactly, my buddy lost his v card at 27, and he has a really happy relationship with a girl who clearly adores him, the way she looks at him you can just tell. Meanwhile I was an "early bloomer" and I'm completely miserable and alone in my life. I'm bouncing back tho.
Damn how are you now tho and the person?
to be fair, life is over after 18.
This guy seriously thought he could spend all his time online and working out in his home gym and then suddenly a girlfriend would just appear. When it didn't happen like that he decided he hated women. I don't understand how the mental health services could just stop treating him after 18 month.
Well I largely blame people saying "just live life & it will happen" for incels having that entitled mentality. We've been told all our lives we will get the perfect girl out of nowhere. I've been saying for years that dating coaches & normies need to watch how they word things.
They make it sound like if I do some deus ex machina inner healing & learn to love myself, a beautiful girl will appear before me to ask me out.
He has a very idiotic mindset.
UK mental health services are a fucking joke.
Mental heath services in SW England are generaly pretty terrible. Im supprised he got 18 months. I live in the area.
re: the mental health services thing, it’s because the NHS (and other social services) has been systematically defunded over many years and is now chronically underfunded
This case is so sickening. My heart absolutely aches for victims, especially poor little Sophie and her father who fought so hard to protect her. May all the victims rest in peace.
Indeed.. So senseless & tragic.. Now that Father, HE, was an amazing man.. the complete opposite of the pos who STOLE his and his precious daughter’s lives..and literally over nothing but insecurity, hatred & projection.. May all the innocent lives stolen that day Rest in Peace. ❤😢🙏
Anytime a man says I want [insert minimum legal age here], it means he actually wants to go even younger but begrudgingly can't.
💯
lol it's true it's true
8 is way too old for me...
@@Weird.Dreams what?
I was talking to a police officer whose job is to train people for mass shootings and he said honestly there is no profile you don’t know that they’re going to do it until they do it. People will say shocking things to get attention and never do anything.
Nah I don't believe that at all. They get all the warning signs and simply decide to ignore them.
@@Stephanpar23Sadly, you can’t arrest someone for suspicion of committing a future, violent meltdown.
Our psych hospitals and programs are awful. If one can afford a good therapist and the kid goes, that’s the best one can do.
I just wanted to thank you for using the correct “whose.” :)
@@Stephanpar23 mental health is bad right now you can't just see a warning sign as a sign of something dangerous about to happen. i see teens who seem likely to do something akin to jake every day. They say the same things and have the same ideas but most don't act on it. Should they all be locked away just in case? People have rights and you can't take away someone's rights just because they're abrasive and antisocial. mass shootings are hard to prevent because of these issues
Yes ppl don't understand that millions show these warning signs and never act out. Of course all the online detectives would have 100% caught him and arrested him for precrime like we're in the minority report film.
Dude was online talking like he was 65 when he was 20 saying his time for love had passed
😂😂😂
He looks like Bob Ross on meth.
@@nolife6013 😂 🤣 great analogy, spot on
@@nolife6013 Bob Ross is turning in his grave after hearing that😂
a lot of similar cases like that. These people are so out of touch with reality. Lost in their world of self pity.
"The firearms inquiry officers that processed Jake's shotgun license hadn't received any training for 20 years"
I'm sorry WHAT
Every time we have this debate about gun control they acream "WE ALREADY HAVE SAFEGUARDS" yet time and again they show these safeguards dont work or are never even inplemented due to incompetence and laziness...and innocent people pay the price..
@@DrZannyea so let's take away all our rights so you can feel safe. Go to HLL
Bro there are so many 23 yr olds that havent had a relatioship, tf this guy thinking
My ex was a virgin when I met him at age 35. These dudes act like getting laid is the only thing in life that matters. No wonder they're such losers.
Eh, if you cant even pull a single girlfriend by the age of 21, it'a a bit weird. Especially these days with all the dating apps and social media.
@@WobblesandBean It is easy to write as a woman who lost her virginity at 14, right?.
@@alec57not really. I had my first gf at 16, and played around a lot through high school and college, while my buddy didn't lose his v card til 27 and he met the love of his life and theyre very happy together. Much happier than me. It's not a race, those arbitrary age benchmarks do nothing to help you
@@alec57your ideology is part of the reason why incels happen. 21 is so young and theres so many more things to focus on than a relationship. Im 21 and I have 22 exes- sometimes focusing on love at a young age is Obviously Negative
8:23 Unfortunately, I noticed it's actually common for incels to have mothers who love them unconditionally. Because the mothers are willing to put up with their bad behavior. So then, when the guy goes out and tries to date a woman, they get angry and annoyed at women because they won't put up with their negative personality. Of course, it's good for a mother to give their child unconditional love, but too much unconditional love can be a problem.
For Elliot Rodgers, it was his father who coddled him, and his step mother who refused to tolerate his bullshit.
Clarification, I don't want my comment to be perceived as me blaming the mother for his actions. He is responsible for his actions. I just find it depressing that I've seen kids who don't have parents who care for them. They would be happy to have parents who love them unconditionally. But this guy clearly didn't realize how lucky he was to have a mother who loves him unconditionally.
That's a good point, never thought about it that way
You hit the nail on the head, most incels see their mothers as these ideal women even if they can't admit it but at the same time they begin to see what their mothers do as the bare minimum. They then think all women need to treat/love them unconditionally like a mother would a son while also expecting more from them such as sex etc. It's pretty strange to me
I don't think unconditional love is the problem perse, many aspects led to his delusions probably overlooked
damn,he said other ppl couldnt seperate reality from fantasy,thats a hell of a thing for this guy to say
Always a good day when Kyle uploads :)
I don’t know if you’ll still remember my comments but I’m the Japanese girl that was physically and sexually abused and became epileptic because of it.
I still watch all of your videos and am glad to see you in the podcasts as well (I am a huge fan of Broogli too ^^). I said I wanted to support your patreon soon but unfortunately things didn’t go the way I hoped and I felt “ashamed” to even comment anything because I felt I was breaking a promise I made to myself, to support my favorite creators and use this as motivation to rebuild myself.
It’s been a few months and I finally made progress! I got approved to get a disability card and won’t have to bear with any more medical expenses and, most importantly, am now eligible for jobs designated for disabled people so I can finally work in an environment that’s safe and stable!
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Sorry for the long comment. Sending lots of love to you and your loved ones and wishing you all a wonderful week!!! :)
I remember you! Don't worry about supporting financially. You're here almost every time and that's enough for me
I'm also disabled. Not terribly but enough for a disability pension and can relate to it being difficult to find and hold down a job.
What happened to you is horrible and nobody should be afflicted by such things.
I wish you luck in recovering and finding a job that you love and pays well.
I struggle to find happiness, so most of all I hope that you can find happiness.
Best wishes 🙏🙂
Many of us want to support our favourite creator, but not all of us can. There's no shame in doing what you can at the moment. Commenting and responding to people, thumb up, help the channel, too. It should be OK if it's all you can do at the moment. Not everyone has the money to support.
Sending a virtual hug as a fellow disabled person. I'm sorry you've gone through what you have. You seem like a kind soul and I hope your life continues to improve.
In a country with some of the most restrictive gun laws I’m wondering how this guy kept slipping through the cracks. He had that weapon confiscated which was a missed opportunity. As for this guy. If you’re centering your whole identity around getting laid while simultaneously hating women & thinking your best years are behind you in your 20’s is just sad.
He wasn't brown....
@@JoshuaKimbrough Yeah, this. UK law should have made sure he didn't get his shotgun back, but the local cops literally were clueless and handed it back to him.
Because in the UK you only get convicted for saying mean words online now.
If a man in your life is consuming incel or misogynistic content you have to stop them or leave them. It only gets worse and worse and they will start becoming dangerous. I'm currently dealing with it now and the relationship has turned more abusive than ever before.
Sorry to hear that. Do you have an exit plan?
INCEL content. Isn't that all content creators on the UA-cams? Satire!
I wish you luck, genuinely
@@jameshw9751 Thanks, and yes. Just got pre-approved for a mortgage and looking for a home as we speak
@@vivalabad6 Best of luck! I hope you get out of their safely and quickly.
The "program" he wanted to cure Incels, honestly could be similar to drug/alcohol rehab. A safe place to "detox" from the Internet and get into a more pleasant surrounding. Education on consent, basic hygiene, social skills etc.
Considering that multiple countries have issues with both Incels and people addicted to social media, I could see "incel rehab" becoming a thing.
Especially considering so many need job training... It would help the economy.
I also agree that it has become such a huge mental health epidemic that some sort of “incel rehab” would probably be extremely worth it
I'll donate, anything to end this horrific bs
He wasn't an Idiotic guy. (Well, sort of. He seemed to have little wisdom), but treating loneliness, and radicalization as a sort of something to detox, and enter a healthier environment. Toxicity, rage bait, even depression and bitterness are easy and addictive things to fall into. Relinquishing your responsibility and instead loathing the world, is much easier then assuming responsibility, especially when the first step seems both arduous, and confusing.
@@viderevero1338 @viderevero1338 that's why my original comment also included education. Especially on consent.
Lots of alcohol and drug rehabs have therapy. "Why does a person self medicate with drugs or alcohol to escape?" Sometimes people hit rock bottom and are open to actually getting help.
Lots of rage bait causes the most damage in an echo chamber. But what happens when you leave the echo chamber? You hear other sounds. Other voices. You're more likely to actually listen to new or other ideas other than your own.
Its so ironic and sad to me that the term incel was intially introduced as a name for people who were akward and struggling to have meaningful and intimate relationships, it was created in 1997 by a queer candian university student named Alana as a project for all genders who feel they are deprived of intimacy due to social akwardness, marginalization and mentail illness. It was supposed to be a fourm site where people like that could realized theyre not alone in their struggles and possibly change their perspective on the issues they face getting to a relationship like that. I cant believe that the original incel project(called Invcel) might actually be the cure to the current incel culture
Thinking about how his mother protected him, loved him and made sure to make his live easier, he decided to end her life. It’s devastating. Any victim in this story deserves justice.
Zero accountability here in the UK. These people are more concerned about which organisational tie they wear than actually doing their job.
you cannot legislate what crazy people could do
@@gutwallst6645 Though, if the signs are there and you are trained in your field you can and should take appropriate preventative measures.
There's no excuse.
@gutwallst6645
You absolutely can legislate what crazy people do it's called the Mental Health/Disabilities Act. Stop acting like this wasn't preventable at so many points. The seeds were planted a decade before he acted.
Exactly
The skaters have changed from 20 years ago that dude would not have left that skate park that night
Honestly, I relate to this guy somewhat. Not the whole insane obsession with inceldom, but the nihilistic depression, the loneliness, there's more then just the sexual aspect. It's an aimless thing. A way of seeing what is sold to you as the idealized life that you're supposed to go through, and feeling like you're missing out on it, like you were not only too late, but can't rewind time to go back on the path. Hell, I'm 18, still young, literally entering life, but a mixture of covid and slacking off has functionally left me with no friends to note, stuck online. It's a horrible feeling. Obviously empathy can only extend so far, and you can empathize with the person in the moment before they truly fall off the deep-end, (like a criminal who was assaulted during their youth), but once they reach a certain period, where they have full agency over their actions, and they choose evil, then they deserve whatever comes to them. Life in prison, etc.
I relate a little bit from your solitude. But it's already a good thing that you are self aware. 18 is very young and you have a lot of time ahead of you.
I think a lot of people don't realize (or maybe they're too far in it) that these are normal feelings everyone has to some degree. I'm not saying this to lessen or devalue what you and others feel, just saying it so you know you're not alone. Everyone feels lonely or regretful or wishes they'd done things differently. Everyone wonders what their purpose in life is and feels like they're doing it wrong or not doing enough. Most people feel like they were promised that if they did x y and z, they'd have life figured out and get all they want. And they don't realize that most of us are figuring it out as we go along. And yeah, a lot of that sucks, but it does get better. Ultimately, we all choose what to do with those feelings and how to react. Sometimes it gets better with time, sometimes it gets better with your own actions, sometimes both. But like most things in life, if you put in a little bit of effort, are kind, and your heart's in the right place, things have a way of working out (and you can only really see that with time and perspective).
You're young and you can and will make more friends, I promise. :) You can make friends through the internet and through work, school, religion, volunteering, hobbies, vacation, etc. Just figure out what you like doing, and you'll make friends that way. Or you can reach out to old friends or acquaintances and try to hang out and get to know them better. Most people are actually really happy to hear from other folks who seem interested in them and their lives as long as there wasn't some catastrophic falling out. Best wishes!
@@MarieLehleitner Thank you, genuinely, your words are not only kind, but more helpful then you know. Best wishes to you as well. ♥
I'm really surprised on some levels to read this, since I just from some comments from you above, and they were eloquent, intelligent, sensitive, and displayed a great deal of maturity and potential. You clearly have a bright mind! So I was really surprised to read that you're only 18.
Which is a really, really good thing! As someone now in her early 40s, I'd like to share a classic song from my era: 'Baz Luhrman's Sunscreen'. Was a big hit when I was a little younger than you, and over the decades, the wiseness of the words only resonate with truth even more so. It's so normal for many people in your age range of every generation to go through these periods, especially when first entering adulthood. A lot of pressure to "choose your best subjects, choose your career path, maximise you potential, NOW NOW NOW!" and that was even the case long before social media or covid were considerations. Which are going to be a huge impact on the generations like yours that have been hit the hardest by the world locking down during crucial years in your life.
But that time is not lost, it's not too late, and never is! Find and do things that interest you, and find the people you feel safe and comfortable with -build human connections slowly and with shared interests, without isolating yourself to a specific 'tribe', especially not on a curated and automated Internet that creates echo chambers. Travel and education both broaden the mind, and neither have to be formal nor expensive. If you're willing to learn new things, and extend your comfort zones, and show genuine connection to and interest in other people (as people, and not as goals or with a purpose for them in mind), and you'll always find some good things in life, even when you go through the inevitable bad things too.
It’s on you dog. The bar is just higher than guys realize. Nothing is guaranteed or granted. You already see the deal, you got this brother. Stand up 🙌🏻
I'm really upset his mother even had a child with his father. Have standards, people!
His father was probably more calmer before Jake was even conceived
@@pineapplesodahHaving a kid doesn't make you go around chewing on cheeks and headbutting people walking their dog overnight. That's long term anger issues (possibly caused by trauma) and most likely a mix of alcohol/drugs.
if dude was raised in a better environment with a stable household this sht would not have happened
Imagine thinking 20 years old isn't "young."
From what Ive observed the one thing that most incels seem to have in common is immaturity. Jake is a perfect example of this. He talks and acts like a 13 year old and says lots of immature and cringey things. Its like a lot of them never grew up and will spend their entire lives as angsty edgy horny teenagers. Its kinda sad honestly
im an incel too...i didnt choose to be immature, my brain is just fucked and only death czn save me
yhea ! Immaturity and they lack empathy too ! Or just don't have any.. Sometime even don't understand the concept.
@@emilienlaliberte7325 I see that a lot too. You can tell by the way some of them talk about women. They talk to them as if they're some sort of thing to be acquired or a lesser beast or whatever. Women's problems are dismissed entirely by them as non-existent or entirely their own fault. They think women deserve bad things to happen to them because they're all working together to disenfranchise lonely men. Or something crazy like that. The world revolves around them and everyone else is out to get them and blah blah blah. Very self centered mindset to say the least
I don't think that's entirely fair the entire assessment, though you're right. Many of them are man children. They've spent much of their lives online, not going through the experiences that would typically signal and teach maturity, milestones, responsibilities, etcetera. They live at home, don't have jobs, and are chronically online. Not all Incels are necessarily misogynists, though the stereotype exists for a reason, and many have their general loneliness and desperation turn to outright bitterness and disdain for the opposite sex they see as having 'rejected' them. The lack of empathy could come from a lack of experience. Many don't have any interaction with women, despite obsessing over them. They only see rage bait of 'bad women', or hyper-sexualization of them, and the echo chambers they create solely render complaints on a shared male perspective, where they are the 'down-trodden, oppressed sex that is ignored and ostracized'. Though this isn't all Incels necessarily. Some are more self aware then others. Some just really hate themselves more then they would hate women. A lot of these people, if they actually were able to (and many can), get on the track of life, assume responsibilities of a job, hobby, schedule, grooming (hygiene), and a strong support group of (platonic) friends, that are healthy and arent spouting harmful rhetoric, a lot of that immaturity could likely be fixed in some way.
A lot of Inceldom doesn't necessarily stem from virginity, but from loneliness. These people don't always have friends outside of the online spaces. Meaning their only observation of reality, is the false reality they see online, where everything is tribalistic, toxic, and extreme. Rarely do they have an actual, realistic view of women, or even other men, instead a more delusional, internet-fused and nihilistic outlook that paints the world in an ultimately harsher light then it really is.
@@viderevero1338 absolutely. I see a lot of people who are in this weird bubble of isolation because they're always on some device doing something or other. I see that a lot in normal people as well. But it's a lot different with them because they have things to do besides that. Family and responsibilities etc. It's a lot different when all you gotta do is work and come home. Hang out with people sometimes. Lather rinse repeat. It gets lonely and boring after awhile. Because honestly the basement dweller stereotype is largely a myth. Not entirely. Those types do exist. But a lot of these incel dudes, the majority probably, are regular people with regular jobs living regular lives. They got friends and family. I think a lot of people have this subconscious notion that they're some weird separate society of CHUD's that lives among us in secret like the wizards in Harry Potter. But it's really not that way at all.
I mean, speaking as a guy who has never been intimate with a girl himself, I don't want _anyone_ to be hurt; I just want to know what it's like to be loved...
Frankly, I *_hate_* the idea of being lumped in with *trash* like Jake Davison, Elliot Rodger and the like just because I'm depressed about my lack of a love life; to _hell_ with them.
The real problem these days is the lack of human empathy from seemingly _everyone in society._
I can sympathize. Not everyone who can't get laid is someone who is hateful. I imagine most aren't. Would you be open to attending a furry meetup? Furries generally have harder times socializing and it's easier to relate and socialize within the furry community. It worked for me to find incredibly close friends which have been incredibly fulfilling emotionally. You can get a deep sense of being loved and connected with close friends, even if it isn't romantic love. :)
Oh god I wrote my comment weird...please bear with me. What I say worked for me
Sex isn't love
@@elaexplorer Yes, I know.
I'm assuming you're young. If you're constantly thinking about how you can go about having sex, stop. Focus on improving yourself and getting good at something. The more people you meet through your hobbies, the more opportunities you'll have to meet a woman that will share your interests.
Also, lower your standards. If you're obsessed with porn, stop watching it. Porn isn't real life and you don't deserve a conventionally attractive woman if you don't offer anything to the relationship. Better yourself. Learn to love yourself. Be content. You'll meet someone to make love with eventually.
His level of delusion is unreal. A lot of these guys are coddled by their mothers to their detriment. My child is autistic and I think the best gift to give them is self-sufficiency, self-confidence, and coping skills. I wish parents had to take classes in the cause and effect of poor parenting.
Everytime I watch a video on these incels I nearly grind my teeth out. I understand that these kids/people have mental issues underlying how they think and the actions they carry out, but I just cannot understand why they feel the need to kill innocent people rather than themselves, but again…the mentality is illogical. Rip to all those that lost their lives 😖🤬
Same! But what is worse are the people in the comments that support them or their view.
wait until you 40 and you literally rotting day by day,you`re 20 and think you`re old?!
Your not rotting .it probably feels like you are. But I'm in my late 50"s and I'm beyond rotting .I'm now in the petrified state.lol
40 is not rotting if you take care of yourself.
20 year olds these days embrace the rot
Stevie Wonder could have seen that coming
Funny!
Love how incels have this conception of older women being “useless” or “used-up”, thoughts like that are the reasons they are not getting any fun tbh
I think they are desperately insecure and terrified of being compared to another man or “Chad”, but their dysfunctional coping mechanism of not accepting responsibility for anything makes them blame everything on an external cause. It’s basically narcissism with the ability to put in the totally fake and charming persona to the outside world.
When I used to consume that type of content on a regular basis (I was a woman that got into my first relationship and I wanted to understand the male psyche better so I was a good girlfriend to my boyfriend), I thought that after 25 I wouldn't be "good enough" for him and that I'd "hit a wall" because apparently I was gonna be too used up. Stopped consuming it and realised this type of thinking is only spewed by guys that haven't ever gotten any fun, and funny thing is that most attractive, wealthy and successful older men look into long term commitments with women their age. It's really only the older guys that are inmature the ones that chase barely legal 18 year olds.
@@cherryhazard8002 couldn’t agree more
@@cherryhazard8002it's a bit choice of media to understand your boyfriend better 😅
i mean they usually are used up
I live in England, just had 2 ambulances and a police car with sirens fly past my window as you were talking about emergency services responding. I had a 3D accompaniment to the story.
4D UA-cam 😂
I suppose we could have a conversation about mental health, which would be proper for this topic......buuuut this guy is barely even a person
Dude already lost my sympathy at the creeping on teen girls
Know who I do have sympathy for? The people he unalived, especially the kid. That was an ice cold sadistic execution, to a sickening degree. There's no better way to describe it.
It's crazy how people think being 22yo is like being 40
It's interesting that a male who has never had any encounter with a woman besides his mother try to tell the world about women.
I didn't get laid or have a girlfriend until I was 20. It's not that uncommon not to have a dating or party life in high school.
Yeah that guy is so delusional. 20 years old is still very young and the perfect age to get a relationship! He thinks having the perfect ultimate high school lifestyle is the only way to live life, which is not true, Sometimes people advance in life later than others. There’s nothing wrong with that.
The irony here is that people like this make sex into this ultimate Quest Object, like the Holy Grail, when it's the love that sometimes surrounds sex that is the real thing.
It's intimacy they crave but think it should be bestowed upon them instead of working towards it. They want to be solitary themselves but have a woman dependent on them. Such weird priorities
To be fair, most men will never have that.
@@thesaddestdude3575 All of human history says you're wrong.
Let's be honest, if this guy ever got the girlfriend he so desperately craved, I've a reasonable suspicion that he would eventually treat that woman like dirt. He took over the house and killed the mother that doted on him so why would he treat any other woman that shows him affection any differently. He had the love of his mother and he betrayed that. Love means nothing to him.
@@scarletamazon3455most men didn't reproduce throughout history lol
These dudes always think they are not the actual problem as a person or that it's about looks and they always think they deserve 10s when they are 5s at best and if they can't get a 10 then no women at all exist that want them.
Most of them aren't even ugly! But then they open their mouths, and you understand why they're single.
@@MarieLehleitner Do they have loose and yellow teeth?
Ugh.. So senseless & tragic.. Now that Father, HE, was an amazing man.. the complete opposite of the pos who STOLE his and his precious daughter’s young lives over Nothing but insecurity, hatred & projection.. May all the innocent lives stolen on that day Rest in Peace. ❤😢🙏
With my own mental issues and isolation, how the heck did I miss the incel spiral? Was it because I never made angry opinionated youtube videos? Being more concerned about paying bills and obligations? Maybe because I feel the need to hold a door open for someone every now and then? It's like dodging a bullet and you didn't know exactly how you did that.
Were you raised to respect women?
Incels blame the world for their situation in life, sounds like you don't do that. That's probably why.
@@jameshw9751 Why would you ever be raised to respect women as opposed to giving baseline respect to everyone? asking it like that is fucking weird
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@@vaalalvestake a day off . Jesus Christ
Kyle why did you have to say that line like THAT ☠️☠️😂
I wonder why he did not think to off himself if he was so unhappy and depressed?
He had to make sure other people suffered too.
He felt entitled to women's bodies which he couldn't get on account of his low self confidence, lack of seeing women as human beings, and unwillingness to change any of that and he wanted to take out his frustrations on the people he felt wronged him.
I’m not first but I’m not the last.
If you ain’t first you’re last. Ricky Bobby
Hey at least you were being creative.
Well I'm lirst and I'm also fast.
this goes so hard
lol same
INCREDIBLE VIDEO.
Some really good conversations between my husband and I and also my son's and us were started by this. Thank you!
When I was a teenager in the 70s and 80s incels were never violent against other people rather it was self-harm that was a worry for them. I don’t understand how they blame couples that they don’t know for their problems.
Jealousy
Society needs to stop giving lip service about egalitarianism and fairness if it's never going to apply to single men.
it's a coping mechanism, humans hate seeing the failure on their end
20:37 ironic
That's still largely the issue. Teenage self-harm is still higher then it's ever been. It's just nowadays with the onset of social media, we not only have greater access to these stories, but those people in horrible mindsets do to, *and* it builds an echo chamber that encourages radicalization, and hatred against the others. It's a really dangerous form of tribalism that didn't really exist in the 70s and 80s, where if you were a loser, you were likely to nbe friends with other losers who were, mostly, more normal, had some sort of hobby, and interacted with the outside world. Nowadays, many of these people are chronically online, with no real friends outside of toxic internet circles.
What boggles my mind is that most of the incels feel like they are owed a woman! Plus the women they think they’re owed look like swimsuit models. I’m sure there are women out there that feel the same way. You have to attract someone with a good personality, looks, money, a car, your juggling skills OR WHATEVER the other person is attracted to. I myself am a personality person. I don’t care what you look like, or own. If you have a great personality and are funny that hits the spot! In this day and age there are so many shallow people and I get what a lot of the guys complain about. How nothing is good enough for these women, so on and so on. But going on to a site and complaining to chicks about how they suck, isn’t going to get you anywhere. A lot of the incel movement men are good people, they’re hurt, been bullied and are scared of women. We can be very scary creatures….
They blame women for "only caring about looks" as a reason for them not getting dates, yet they themselves ONLY value looks in a woman.
Thanks for the deep dive. Never saw any of the footage of this international story. 😮 Well done for such a horrific f-up’d situation.
Ty.
12:01 - That caught me off guard 😂
😂😂😂😂
Babe wake up. New dire trip video dropped
The hardest thing about having had a child (she’s 2 1/2 years old now) is weirdly how much I changed when hearing stories like these.. the part about Sophie and her dad destroyed me and had me in tears for 15 mins.. I had to go hug my kid after.. I always thought it was sad when a child had something like this happen to them but now it uterly rips me apart. The innocence of a child walking with her dad and a teddy bear and the thought of what probably went thru her dad’s mind when he tried to shield her… no wonder parents have become so overprotective in the last 20 years.. it’s so scary to imagine something so random happening to you and your child… 😢
Yes, the poor kid is the saddest note in this tragedy. You must really be nuts to do such an horrible dees.
I love Sundays when I get a new video 😊 Thank you!!!!
He needed the right guidance and therapy to help him change his feelings about himself. You don't attract a girl by simply getting jacked from weightlifting. And he probably reeked of desperation, which is a turnoff. He was going about everything wrong.
mfker was over 20, what guidance did he need considering his mother alerady tried helping him? can we get rid of this trope regardless of context?
And he should not go after the Staceys or whatev they are called. There are so many smart kind women out there that everyone walks by, because our society is so shallow and superficial.
But he had tons of it and nothing helped :( it’s scary
@lenas6246 Very dumb comment. He clearly needed a major mental health intervention and carried on the violent abusive behaviour of his father.
@@lenas6246doesn't matter your age-people can get caught up in echo chambers and negative beliefs and get radicalized, because they isolate themselves from others and don't have anyone around to bring them back to reality. It's an internet/social media problem, this happens to people of all ages who have something going on in their lives and turn to the internet, spiraling deeper until something snaps. I mean, this obviously doesn't happen to most people, but the pattern of behavior is something that shows up again and again in these cases. As far as I know, there is no real and effective intervention or rehab as he suggested to help people de-radicalize, so it's still a problem that needs addressing.
Additionally, even if his mom supported him the best she could, the right kind of support is needed for progress to be made. If he had support that got through to him, things may have been different. We will never know.
Context and understanding the contributing factors that led to this always matter. It's not an excuse by any means, but a way to hopeful find a way to combat this in the future, when people start down that path, before it gets too late.
Man, the father and little girl getting shot made me cry. So much sadness and evil in this world. I feel depressed
I have always been fascinated at topics like this as well. Hope to hear more of this type as a curiosity
The first guy is why insane asylums and strict prison sentences are necessary.
No sympathy for those who attack children, not mentioning the pure ridiculousness of his demands (sure dating is a shitshow, but big titty girlfriend is such an online statement that it is unreal, I can fully she why she assumed him to be a troll).
Your video announces the end of the weekend. 😅 I'm in South Africa 🇿🇦 so the time your video drops, I am just relaxing on the couch 🛋
Without your mother, you would never have existed. Some real brilliant people.
And his mother seemed to really care for him and worry for him :/
Scary stuff, this only happened an hour or so drive from where i live, a town which I've been to many times.. Thanks for covering this
Thanks for the upload, Kyle!
What a fucking monster. He shot a toddler with a teddy bear multiple times for absolutely no reason.
He would do anything to attract a woman except to be a decent human being and maybe also not look like a 40 yrs old homeless guy.
I'm American and even I would worry about this guy having a gun... I can't believe he was able to get one in England.
Oooh, a shiny new video! *gets popcorn*
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"Big honking luscious breasts" SLAYED ME!!! Oh, Kyle! You crack me up!!!! 😆😆😂😂❤❤
I think it's actually kind of strange that he considers himself ugly, because I don't think he actually is. I definitely think a bigger part of his problem is his outlook on relationships and life in general. Also the black pill mentality of "seeing the world for what it is" is stupid. If you're only seeing the world as cold, dark, and brutal you aren't seeing the world for what it is. Maybe I shouldn't say this, but this is coming from someone who used to be something like this.
It's better that you changed
@@MichaelTurner856 I think so, too. I will also say, I've been a lot happier and my relationships with my family and people in general are a lot better now.
Born a virgin, died dishonourably a virgin. He was an incel through and through.
Excellent episode.. love this channel
The saddest thing in this story is that he claims he had "no one" even tho his mom spent most of her time caring for him and his government paid for a good chunk of his expenses
This is a much bigger problem than people realise, there are many more like him, a generation of young men who feel that society has failed them, this is incredibly dangerous and if we don't fix it there will be terrible consequences
I’m new to this channel but I’ve been binge watching your content for almost a week now.
If you aren’t already planning on doing it, I’d love to get your take on the “Anson County Jane Doe” case with the super creepy photos. The case surrounds people who are still missing so any way to get more eyes on it would help.
Either way, glad to be subscribed and love your work!!
Hi Kyle! nice to see you in yet another interesting topic, thanks for the hard work!
I actually found myself really feeling for this guy...he was lost, and seriously just felt really alone...I have had feelings of loneliness on the other end of that spectrum, but I can see how he shared some of the same feelings of despair even on his side of the spectrum...he just didn't understand how to take the steps to get back to my side...and that's really sad. Mind shattering grief, coupled with his unhinged abuse of testosterone, was only going to end one way...and it did. it's really just a sad thing, i found myself wishing I had known about him while he was alive. I would have reached out to him and tried to help.
Pity.
Mom had to get home to “get his tea cooked”. Dude doesn’t even know how to boil water. 🤦🏻♂️
Everyone in England has an electric kettle, so it's extra simple.
Is this comment real? Tea is a slang term for dinner...
@@Shadoweavr nobody understands limey slang at all
Tea is a British term that means lunch, or mealtime. Breakfast, tea, then dinner, or in some areas, breakfast, dinner, then tea.
@@Shadoweavr I'm American, so I legitimately thoujght it meant she had to hurry up and make him his afternoon "tea"(As in drink), all the time. 😂😂
I love your channel and your narration. Big fan bruv
Pls! I so love your delivery of what an incel is, lmao. So true!
Well, I just love your delivery of every episode of your channel, it’s awesome
I feel so privileged
Ask Kyle a question about Japan!!!
He's a monster, pure and simple. He could have made better choices but in the end he went out like a coward. You reap what you sow.
Absolutely excellent video. Props to you!
If you don’t reside in the UK, you won’t ever understand how absolutely abhorrent our mental health services are. It’s the most underfunded sector on the NHS. I have no doubt in my mind his mother was terrified of him, & likely terrified of his father too, so couldn’t ask for help from him either when he got into adult years, especially when he launched attacks on his Dad any time he visited (& I highly doubt that terribly awful last fatal attack on his mum for was his first attack on her). I can’t begin to imagine how much help she’d tried to get him over the years, it’s like repeatedly banging your head against a brick wall, but on the flip side she knew if she’d kicked him out.. she couldn’t keep an eye on him (not that she should’ve, but I’m presuming that was her thought process). As for the accusation of her taking his PIP benefit - I HIGHLY doubt he paid rent, paid for his food, contributed to household bills etc, so his benefit went towards his keep! That’s exactly how he could afford all of that gym equipment, steroids, supplements, new computer and everything else.
As for giving him a gun licence .. that should tell you how woefully ignorant and scarily under trained police officers can be to allow something like that to even pass. Those poor victims..& his poor mum, who must’ve been terrified in those final moments.
another end to a pathetic existence
I wish people wouldn't take getting into a relationship so seriously.
I think it has to do with a lot of our movies and TV shows. Most shows either center around romantic relationships or it's a subplot. If we had more media that showed fulfilling platonic relationships maybe people wouldn't be so hung up on it.
Quality vid! Good script on this one. Hope things are good over in MO ✌️
I'm English and this case devastated us, it honestly put me in a drained state for a good while. May those poor people rest in peace
Interesting, as an American, I kinda feel like I’ve gotten numb to seeing violence on the news. Obviously it’s absolutely horrible, but it doesn’t usually ruin my week or anything. I guess since the murder rate in my country is over five times higher than yours, along with a much bigger population that increases the likelihood of mass shootings, domestic terror etc, you simply can’t let these things affect you for long or else you won’t be able to function.
If I see a shooting on the news, I usually watch the story, and then within an hour my mind is off it and I’m laughing at a comedy show or something.
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I think it has a lot to do with gun laws. In the UK you can only legally aquire a gun through a very complicated license and you still have to follow strict handling rules. In the US (as I understand it) anyone can buy a gun and anyone can carry in public. This story shocked us all because shootings simply don't happen here due to our gun laws
Even if he was denied a gun license im pretty sure this individual would of found a way to arm himself. Incident like this is very hard to prevent. The only blame is the individual.
He wouldn't have murdered five people if he hadn't had a gun.
He couldn't even be bothered to leave his house to meet people. He would definitely not have gotten a gun any other way.
@@profd65 you do not need a gun to kill.
@@elaexplorer he had to get out of the house. That statement makes no sense. Lol.
@@mick62569 even if he had the courage to do this without the overwhelming power of a gun, chances are he would not have been able to kill 5 people. why bring up your politics in regards to this tragedy unless you know that his procurement of a gun was a key aspect in the result of the situation?
I don't understand this, still. I'm autistic as well, and I have a physical disorder where I can't grow muscle, and yet I've never called myself an incel nor wanted to go on a rampage. I've been insulted a lot; called a parasite and unequal for being a guy on disability income, and I know I don't deserve that, but those are just bad individuals. Not everyone has to like everyone, and just because I got dealt a bad hand doesn't mean that people have to accept it. I'm not entitled to anyone. I hope some day I can find someone who accepts me for me, but at the end of the day, that means making myself out to be the best I can be. I have things I want in a partner (and don't want) as well, and that's just how we as humans are. If you want a partner with x y and z traits, then you've gotta be able to make yourself someone said partner would consider being with. I get that being disabled, it can be hard to, but being an incel doesn't help anyone, including yourself. At the end of the day, while I do wonder if I'll ever find someone special, if not, at least I have my wonderful friends and family I'm grateful for. Remember to get outside, get some sunshine and sunlight on your skin. It does wonders.
I will say that the world is unfair to disabled guys and there's a lot of stereotypes that still exist... But the world isn't fair to begin with. You work with what you've got and make the best of it that you can.
It’s because this guy was extremely psychologically weak in certain areas. You are not. Stay up bro 🙌🏻
Sunday funday with Dire ❤️🎉
love the vids🔥
Just wanted to, as a British person, say thanks for learning how to say our town names. I know it's only a little thing and it seems silly but even in pop culture the amount of times I hear town's like Plymouth said incorrectly is unreal.
what, do people literally go "plim-mouth"? 😂😂
@@itsbuggers I've heard 'plie-mouth' a few times. 'Glas-gow' is common too when it's 'glas-go'
He's 20 and says he's somewhat young....??
Y’know as a person with depression I can actually relate to a lot of his views about life, about feeling beaten down, defeated, hopeless, that stuff is too hard. To me that is the most relatable aspect to this guy.
Where I completely diverge from his point of view is his extreme bitterness towards others whom he feels are far more successful than he is. I think it’s very important to remember that there’s a lot of people in the world and some have it better, some have it worse and we can’t hold it against others that their lives are better than our own. I would see no reason to take out my disappointments with my own life on others, which means my main challenge is a sense of self worth and self esteem, something I can relate to struggling with, not hating others and feeling so bitter towards them, which I think is irrational and very short sighted. Also obviously if you become filled with hate due to blaming the world for your problems, you are a lot more likely to be liked even less by others and become even more lonely.
Edit - oh yeah and also that it looks like he was a pedo
I'm actually putting together this exact story to upload on my page as I write this. Well, it's good to see others shed light on this twisted tragedy. RIP to the victims and their family. 🕊️
3 minutes, never in my life have I been so early for ANYTHING
What makes this entire saga especially sad is everyone seems content to simply demonize 'incels' instead of asking why such a thing exists in the first place.
Very few people want to address root causes because it doesn't fit their preconceptions. They'd rather use this as a catalyst to further their agenda.
Bingo
The reasons why monsters exist isn’t excuses for why they do
Alot of people are offering incels solutions but they don't want to be helped ,,the only one who can help yourself is you,,other people have their own issues to solve
@@tfkdandsvkcExactly. I see ppl offering them solutions but then they complain about why things will still never change for them. Despite offering solutions.